U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - The River (Disc 2)

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Adam Scott Aukerman go track-by-track through Disc 2 of The River in addition to listening to bonus songs that were cut from the original album. Plus, they discuss what snacks they'd eat in the stood if they were BS and the Es and also tease a potential new podcast, "U Otto Be Listenin' to Us Talk About a Man Called Otto"? 

from born in the usa to death to my hometown this is you springing springsteen on my bean the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Bruce. This is good rock and roll. Music. Welcome back. Adam is playing the tiniest air guitar, or air bass, it actually looks like. Because if you were playing the guitar like that, it would not

make really any noise at all. It's very weird. It's just lightly tapping on the strings. I like a good visual gag for the podcast. Yep, right at the beginning. I've heard of the world's tiniest violin, but the world's tiniest bass guitar? Well, this one is the exact shape, length, and size of a Sharpie pen. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. I don't know if you noticed. You actually have a Sharpie there to contrast it with. This is how I rehearse. So, if I get it down well enough using an actual Sharpie, when it's time to actually do air

guitar, or air bass, excuse me, in the exact shape size and length of a sharpie pen i can do it without it because i had practiced so long so much using the sharpie yeah i co-sponsored by sharpie no we are sponsored by sharpie we uh we wanted to say that actually coast but yeah who who's the other don't worry about it. Now I'm worried, quite honestly. You shouldn't be worried. Now I'm petrified, actually.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't. Cut it out. Okay, he's stroking my hair now. Stop it, stop it, stop it. Stop it. That feels good. Cut it out.

That feels good. Okay, just stop, stop, stop. Aw. That feels good. Mwah. Mwah. I love you. Love you. Love you.

Love you. Bye. Bye. Welcome to the show. This is you springing Springsteen on my bean for another week. And what a week it is. We are here to discuss the second disc, the second platter of the river. Da river. disc the second platter of the river dot river do you think in the studio when stood uh in the

when bs and the e's are laying down tracks yep slapping down just slapping down hot ass tracks the hotter the better like above room temp oh my god like scorching like we're talking like 102.9 degrees yeah just like ouch is is yeah 451 fahrenheit 400 is that really what what makes paper burn or is it considerably lower than that i know it's for wait hold on let me do the run the numbers real quick yeah Yeah, it's $4.51. Really? So just like if you were to put on something at $4.50, paper would not burn on it?

No, no, no, no, no. No. Do you think when they're laying down hot tracks... When BS and the E's? Yeah, in the stewed. In the stewed. Do you think when someone brings in snacks, they're like, ooh, it's a platter of goodies. You think that's what

they say to each other? Well, I'm wondering if you think that's what they say. Huh. Let me handicap this. Yep. I'd say it's a 50-50 shot. Okay. I think that they either sullenly just take the snacks off the... Yeah, and they're just, like, they expect

it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, snacks in the stewed? Yeah, snacks... That's what BS in the E's always has. I mean, how are you gonna keep going without snacks in the stewed? Exactly. But then, I also think there's a 50% shot that they're like, ooh, a platter of goodies! Ooh, goodies!

Now, what do you think they... Do you think it's just, like, carrot sticks? Or do you think it's, like, cheeseburgers? Or do you think it's just like carrot sticks or do you think it's like cheeseburgers or do you think it's just like cheese sticks and celery? I think it's probably a carrot stick that's been wrapped in melted cheese. That's delicious. It's so good. It's so good. Have you ever had, have you had one of those today?

Just, I had one last night. Just a healthy american slice wrapped around an ice cold carrot and then melted melted but make sure the carrot is still ice cold so you have to keep your carrots in the freezer just to make sure and then also you know what i would have if i was in the part of us in the bs in the ease having a snack in the stew having a snack in the stew. Having a snack in the stew. What would you have? Ants on a log.

Ants on where they belong. A log. On a log. You see ants on concrete or ants on a wall. No thanks. Or up Ozzy Osbourne's nose. Or up his butt. No thanks.

Ants on a log is the perfect stewed snack. It's the best. Doesn't fill you up. It's the best is the perfect stewed snack oh it's the best doesn't fill you up snack in the stewed but it keeps there's protein you got teen so much protein a little prop little teen and the little tns in the ease having a snack in the stew having some ants it's so good and then you got the raisins on top, the aforementioned ants. Yeah. Delicious. Delicious. The little dried up prunes themselves. But you know what tops it all off?

You pour hot gravy on top of that. Oh, some gravy of your own making. Yeah. You gotta make your own gravy. Wait, what does that mean? I'm literally talking about making your own gravy. Oh yeah, no, you have to make it on the stove. I'm not, no, no. I'm not intimating making your own gravy. Oh, yeah. No, you have to make it on the stove. I'm not intimating anything else, Adam.

This is a family podcast. Sure. No, we're talking about... Actually, you were going to bring your gravy recipe today. I was, yeah. Do you want to see it? Yep. Okay. Let's see.

Bringing it up on the old compute. Yep. Here we go. Gravy recipe. You have a snacks in the stude file on your desktop? Yeah, let me access that. Doing the minority report. We have advanced

technology. Yeah, we have. Look, this is a red ball. It's finally up. Okay, here's my grandmother's gravy recipe. Jerk off in a cup. Okay.

Thanks, Grandma. Thanks. Written in like the sweetest handwriting. A little cursive handwriting. Do people learn cursive these days? On one of those cards you keep in a box. Yeah. You have kids in school. Are they learning cursive?

They don't teach it at school, but I teach it at home how how many hours at home uh two hours every 10 minutes so it backs up like so it well when when they got home from school 5 p.m you start yeah and it goes till 7 and then at 5 10 you start again start again two hours it goes till seven. And then at 510, you start again. Start again, two hours. It goes till 710. That's right. So you're doing concurrent lessons. That's right. They don't get to go to sleep. No, of course not.

Unless it's the weekend. Yeah. Oh, man. What do you guys do during the week? During the weekend, everything we learned during the canned, we take everything we learned during the week pertaining to cursive and we just let it, let it out. Let it out. And just write letters.

Yeah, letters. To congressmen, to our favorite products, to the companies that make them. Sure. To the spokespeople, of course, Tony the Tiger, et cetera. No, the spokespeople. The king from Burger King king we write him letters yep in cursive you have to well he's royalty oh yeah it's only proper of course uh and then we dance and then uh fart and then go to sleep sounds like a full canned it It's a huge canned.

I would love to be your son. I know we're friends and we're colleagues. Thank you. But I would love to be your son. Thank you. Your second son. I appreciate that. Did you ever think about having a third child?

And if you did, could it have been me? I've always sort of felt like you're my third son, even though I only have one. I would love to be your third son. I'd love for you to have a second son and then me. And then have you be the third. Yep. I hope I, and this is, I legitimately mean this. I hope that when I die, I'm reincarnated as your third son.

Like up in the sky? Like on tattooing yeah up in the sky i want to be reincarnated on tattooing my third son yes on tattooing so like so tattooing has famously two sons yeah everyone knows everyone knows this i would love to be reincarnated as your personal third son when you travel to tattooing finally on tattoo yeah and i know you've been working on it for you and elon musk have been in there hammering it out just trying to find it that's the big part where you could get there no prob i mean we all know i mean the only clues we have is that it it was a long time ago yeah too long and in a galaxy far far away yeah far far away so it's yeah twice as far as just far yeah so like whatever wherever you think it is double it double it just like their two sons

no matter how many sons you think tatooine has double it yeah so they everyone also knows that tatooine has four sons yes everyone knows. And you want to be the third. This is the Simpson joke. I'm seeing double. Four crusties. Adam, it's been great to see you. A lot of people would think, oh, man, they stopped in the middle of the river a week ago.

I bet they just rolled right in and started recording another episode right after. No fucking way. No, we haven't seen each other in days yeah i missed you oh i missed you so much wait do we recorded almost a week ago because wait is this an episode of how long ago did we record i think so Hey everyone, welcome to How Long Ago Did We Record? This is Scott. And this is Scott.

And this is the show, we do a lot of things. We cover a lot of topics. Yeah. Cover a lot of ground. Cover a lot of, oh my God, every episode is just very incredibly comprehensive. Going this way, going that way. Yeah, zigging, zag zagging what are we doing but mainly our main purpose here is to figure out you know how long ago did we record yeah how long ago did we record because we went to see stop making sense uh and then we talked about it the day after talked about so it's stop making sense was thursday night right

no or no that was on a Monday. Monday night. Oh, so it's been over a week since we- No, today's Tuesday. Today's, it's exactly one week. Bye. One week. Bye. Bye.

Well, they figured it out. They certainly did. Look, that's what the show is for. No, that's a safe space to figure out how long ago did we record, and that's exactly what they did. So we're going to get to this second platter. Of goodies. Of goodies.

Just this steaming pile of hot wax yeah you think you think bs ever was like hey everyone have a new album out i just shit out a steaming pile of hot wax for you and the record company's like okay b we need to just... Could you stop saying that? Let's just take it down a couple notches. First of all, we love that you have a new record, and it's a masterpiece. No, we are very, very happy with the material. It's 1978. People are not ready for that kind of language. They're not ready to hear this kind of language.

But when they are, this is 1980. 1980. Oh, even more. Oh, wait, wait. It's 1980? Oh, they're ready now. Oh, okay. Go ahead.

All right, I'll just shit out a steepen pile of hot wax for you. Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! And everyone lapped it up. They loved it. They loved it.

They loved being told to lap up the shit from BS and the E's. It's definitely another week. I think we're releasing this in the pretty smack dab in the middle of October. Or Rocktober. Rocktober. And I think we even have an episode coming out on Halloween itself. I'm sorry. I know. Now I'm super scared. I know. It's coming up.

Oh, God. What do you usually do to calm down on Halloween? You mean other than hiding under a table, under a blanket, shaking? Is the blanket on the table or on your body? Well, that's the problem is this is a table blanket. So in order to get under the blanket, I have to get under the table. It's one of those. Who was the first home invader, you think,

whoever thought to look under a table or a bed? It's documented. It was in 1732. Before that, they came in looked around we're like nope nobody here and then one guy was brilliant was like i what if we look under this here bed and there he is lean neeson he's just dragging his ass out. I knew you'd find me here. It sucks that like there should be a hiding space that's so good that no one can find you. Well, panic room. Yeah. Wait a second.

Hmm. Is this this is I feel an episode of I love films. Yeah, I think so. is i feel an episode of i love films yeah i think so hey everyone welcome to i love films this is scott and this is scott and we're here talking about film not flicks not flicks you know what that that even that expression bugs me because it devalues it's like oh i can flick away get out of here get out of here just go see it just disposable entertainment no we're here talking about content content yeah yeah things to fill uh algorithms exactly we're and we're not talking about we're talking about things like

citizen kane uh yeah heard of it? Yeah. Wait, Citizen Kane? No, Michael Kane in Goldmember. Michael Kane's performance in Goldmember. That's the kind of thing we like here. Raging Bull. No, wait, wait, wait. No, Bull from Night Court. Bull from Night Court.

And the Raging Cajun himself. James Carville's performance. In the war room. In the war room. Seen it? I'm sure he's also had cameos as himself in many comedies. Oh, James Carville's performance

in Old School. Seen it? Come on, guys. That's what we're here to talk about. So, James Carville's performance in Old School. I just saw Old School. I don't remember it. Maybe it wasn't that one. Maybe it was something else.

Let me look it up. I feel like it was a Todd Phillips movie and James Carville. I'm going to look up James Carville. Because for a while it was like. Filmography. Boy, nothing is coming up. Really? Not on the little peed filmography

that's a hard word to just like up and spell okay for me old school you're right he's in old school he's you know what is he doing it he i just feel like he's like he ends up at a party or it's, I don't know. Is it the Snoop Dogg party? And he's there? I don't know. You just saw it. I literally just saw it. Maybe he was cut out of the version on TBS. Is that where you watched it?

That's how I watch all my movies. As the filmmaker intended. Give me the TBS cut, which is what we're here to talk about. I will not watch any movie unless it's been trimmed down by TBS cut, which is what we're here to talk about. I will not watch any movie unless it's been trimmed down by TBS. Please trim it down. Movies are too long. Trim it by 25 minutes and then replace that 25 minutes with 25 minutes of commercials. Oh, I want those commercials.

Oh, my God. I want to see what the Atlanta Braves are up to. I want anything, any curse words, anything oddly offensive, I want it bleeped out. I want it bleeped out of here. I don't want it bleeped out. I want the actors to come back months later and substitute words that don't make any sense. That's right. Like instead of fuck, I want them to say diamonds or something.

Yes, exactly. Instead of shit for brains yeah i want them to say hey fellas what's going on over here yeah that's what i want that's what i want as a connoisseur of film of films bye bye That was one of their longer episodes, and it seemed to drift. I think they got back on topic towards the end. I don't know. I stopped listening. Yeah, so did I.

Would it surprise you to know James Carville was in The People versus Larry Flint? See, he was... There's something called Return of the War Room? Okay. Really? Yeah, we're going back to the well. Oy yi yi. Once too many.

He's also in The Muppets. And Man of the Year. And Swing Vote. Yep. Yep. Guy was popping up all over the place. Man, that guy must be getting zids up the yin yang. Oh yeah, he's getting all them zids.

Damn. I love it. How many zids you got a year? I don't know. Not much anymore. Yeah. There's not much in the way of zids anymore. Yeah.

What about Boy Meets whatever the hell you were on? There's a podcast, a Boy Meets World podcast. There is. I was on it. You were on it. Yeah. That's wonderful. Yeah.

Writer Strong, Daniel Fishel, and Will Friedle. Super nice. Great. Great podcast. What was the process like of them booking you on the show? Oh, you want to walk through that? Yeah. How does someone get-

It was really fun. How does someone get Adam Scott to be on their podcast? Well, Daniel fishel emailed me okay and said how does she get the the the dressy her the old e yeah the e-ad uh well through through a bud we know her husband well everybody knows her husband sure well sure all the shrimp companies are afraid of him what do you mean oh yeah that's oh my god um don't put us on blast so i would imagine uh that's how she got my email okay great you know what i never brought that up with him uh just handed my email and out of email address out to his like whatever wife might be walking by well it happened to be his at the

time which is fine of course yeah but it could have been anyone's anyone's wife he's like hey any wife want adam scott's e-addy right uh so that's how it happened that's how it went down that's how it went down that's that's some good uh bts we We should clip that story about how I ended up on the podcast. Put it on YouTube? Yeah, yeah. Try to monetize this? Yeah. Get some hits on this story.

Let's finally make some money here. Finally. Jesus Christ. How long have we been doing this? And we have zero dolls. 14 years. We've been doing this for... No, it's been almost 10.

Almost 10. It'll be a decade in next year. Are we going to do an extravaganza? I think we should. Is this an episode of are we going to do an extravaganza? I think it is. Hey everyone, welcome to Are We Gonna Do An Extravaganza? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And this is the show, I guess. God, if I had to just really nutshell it for everybody, it's kind of where we figure out if we're gonna do an extravaganza. I mean, because there's two choices.

We don't do an extravaganza, or we do an extravaganza? I mean, because there's two choices. We don't do an extravaganza, or we do an extravaganza. It's a real binary. It is. There's no spectrum here. A or B. Yeah. One or the other.

One or the other. And the difference is, if we don't do an extravaganza, fine. Life goes on, just as it did before. Oh, we're all a little bit sadder boo but whatever i'm so sorry we didn't give you your lollies you fucking babies jesus um but if we do choose to do an extravaganza oh boy you got your lollies you fucking babies wait wait a second since when do we treat our audience this way always like they're spoiled children yeah okay all right bye

wait did they decide i don't think all right, we'll check back with them down the line when it's coming back up. I'm so excited to be here with you, Adam. This is just one of the most special episodes, I feel like, we're ever going to do. The second half of the River album. Yep. Disc two. Did you, did you listen to it on vinyl first or did you listen to it on compact disc

or the old cassettes? The river? Yeah. I didn't get into the river until last week when i heard that first record um was that a week ago it was wait a second uh when did we last record we can't okay we can't do another episode no i didn't get into it till i like oh five or when it was like iPod era but wait so you were like you had a little click wheel iPod

and you were like let me put the river into this that's exactly what I remember I think there was some like 15th anniversary I don't know what it was but I 15th anniversary of the 1980't know what it was, but I...

15th anniversary of the 1980 album? No, that would have been 1995. Maybe it was 25 years. Oh, yeah, I bet it was. But when did this one come out? 1980. No, this edition that I'm holding in my hand. Oh.

2015. This is the 35-year anniversary. Yeah, the big deluxe. There must have been a 25 year that's when I got into the river. Case settled. Your honor, I rest my case.

Sustained. Thank you. Set the prisoner free. What? You start walking over the tables like Daniel Day-Lewis. They're all covered in blankets, so I start slipping. Whoa! It looked cool until Daniel Day-Lewis slipped on that blanket that someone was, like, nodding off on. Wait, when did he walk on tables?

That was, which movie? In the Name of the Father? In the Name of the Father. What happened to that movie? I don't know. Like, suddenly it comes out and everyone's like oh oh good good good good good we like watching this we like watching this favorite favorite and then suddenly like cut to 15 years go by and we're all like who fucking cares whatever

what was it even about i don't know but the poster was just his face yeah it's like hey you like this guy come see this movie you don't like this guy fuck off that's what movies should be called now you like this guy come see this movie you don't like this guy fuck off I mean, may as well try it. Try it once. Just try it once. Try it once. Try it once. Hey, add geniuses. Like next Tom Hanks movie.

Yeah. You like this guy? Come see this movie. You don't like this guy? You don't like this guy? Fuck off. Look, nothing, his latest movies, nothing's worked. People aren't going out to see what was Angry Ralph or whatever his name was.

No, that movie was huge. What? The Mr. Otto. Yeah, Otto guy. That movie made like $100 million. I got to look this up. see what was angry ralph or whatever his name was that movie was huge what the mr auto yeah auto that movie made like a hundred million dollars i gotta look this up the a man named a man named auto a man named and is it a u t o i think it's o t t o first of all a man named auto does not come up. A man called Otto. Oh. Excuse me. Oh. Okay, the budget, 50 million for a man called Otto.

Okay. Guess how much it made. How much? 113.1 million. See? Isn't that crazy? Look, hey, you guys are doing fine, you ad geniuses.

Yeah. You don't need our suggestions. Don't do this with tom hanks's new movie crazy right that's crazy did you see it i didn't i would what you would when like if someone were just like sit you down if i came across it and i had 90 minutes sitting just sitting there that i could eat up it's 126 minutes oh well never mind watch it on? It's 126 minutes. Oh, well, never mind. Would you watch it on 1.5 speed? That movie is 126 minutes. Can you believe it?

That's long. I think cut 60 minutes out. Well, then it's not a movie, right? Well, then it's an episode of 60 minutes. I'm Tom Hanks. And this is 60 Minutes. Once, there was a man named Otto. Then you just show the middle 60 minutes of it.

You know, no one notices. And then they come back. He's like, this has been 60 minutes. Or they do those wrap-ups like, later that year, Otto got a new car. And then it just cuts to black. The whole people who watch 60 Minutes, they wouldn't notice.

No. And the people in the movie theater would be like, wait, what? All right. All right. We have to take a break. If you could believe it. We haven't gotten to the river yet but uh we'll be right

back and we're going to be talking about that wonderful wonderful second disc of the river we'll be right back with more you spring and springing on my beam after this welcome back song about a train apparently uh during the break I watched watched A Man Named Otto. Oh, how was it? It was great. Watched that guy do anything.

It's incredible. I just sat around twiddling my piddling. I don't know. Song about a train. You ever see a train go by and go like, oh man, I want to write a song about that train. Every time a train goes by, I write a train. You ever see a train go by and go like, oh man, I want to write a song about that train. Every time a train goes by, I write a song. It's like, where does inspiration strike you

that you're like, oh, choo-choo, let me write song. Yeah. Is that how, are you saying that's how I think? Yeah. Oh, choo-choo. Choo-choo, let me write song. Time to write song. We're here.

This is you springing Springsteen on my bean. And we're here talking about the river. And not a man called Otto. That is a separate show. That is you, Otto, be listening to us talk about a man called auto well that means we have to uh do an entire podcast series we probably will do an episode called that down the line somehow but that's not this week this is you spring and spring scene on my bean and um we're back talking about The River,

which is a double disc album. If you bought it, you would open it up. You'd take the plastic off. You'd open it up and surprise, surprise. Oh, mommy, there's two records. Yeah, I guess you could say that if you're seven years old and you're at home with mommy. Yeah.

I wonder how many seven-year-olds got this as a gift and were excited about it. Tons. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of a big deal to put out a double album back then, right? Yeah. I mean, I think this was the first. No, this was the second double album. Of his?

No, of anyone's. Oh, what was the first no this was the second double album of his? no of anyone's oh what was the first one? first one was Bad Out of Hell? yeah Bad Out of was the first

first record and then Hell was the second was the second one I actually don't even know if that was a double album it was not yeah

okay it's about 40 minutes long or so but I think I think it was kiss alive was the first double record and then this one was the second and then kiss made alive two and that was the third and then they were like what are we doing here no more double albums they stopped yeah that's cool just a little little music trivia um again let's go through stats it came out october 17th 1980 we're we're just about at the 43rd anniversary of it that's crazy in fact it might actually be october 17th today let me look

this up is it october 17th it is really yeah today is the 43rd anniversary of it, which is why we're doing this record today. Clearly that's why this is coming out today. Why we broke it up into two episodes. Of course, two weeks away from Halloween. I mean, two months away from Christmas. How many times do I... Now I'm petrified. I am so scared.

Yeah, you're frozen. But now I'm like Elsa. Now you're good. And now you're petrified again. And now you're fine. Now you're pet... Nope, now you're fine. How many times have you seen Frozen?

Many, many times. Was that a big hit at the house? It was a big hit at the house. was a big hit at the hold but i think i saw it in the movie theater like three times just by yourself yep okay weirdo um no it was hit frankie at the perfect age and we went and saw it over and over again and it's great did you ever uh pick back up on those Harry Potter books? No. No?

No. Although they do watch those movies still as teenagers, like as a nostalgic thing. Love it. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty great. That sounds like Johnny Carson. Yeah, sure. All right. Let's listen to this fucking album. Yeah, sure. All right, try it again.

Let's listen to this fucking album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It came out October 17th, 43 years ago today. And one thing we didn't, I don't think we talked about, was Little Steven was one of the producers. Yeah, it's like John Lando, Bruce Springsteen, and Little Steven. Yeah, Little Steven was like, one of the producers yeah it's like john lando bruce brings you in little steve yeah little steven was like hey hey forget about it forget about this uh-uh you could remember this because

i'm producing this is that how it went kind of how the conversation i'm paraphrasing like one or two of the words um the uh we heard the first record last episode and that was a pretty jubilant affair yeah poppy and bouncy had but then ends with like a really heavy the river incredible song um and but a lot of his uh more upbeat and more just like frivolous songs, which is fun to hear. He's not like, you know, going for anything much more than like, hey, let's party, which is cool. And then he's like, hey, we're not done yet. Ah, ah, ah, ah. No, no, no.

Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Don't turn me off. Slaps your hand from turning the off switch. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Don't turn me off. Slaps your hand from turning the off switch. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Turn this back on. We got more. That's my favorite of your Bruce Springsteen impressions. I'm getting a text from my wife wondering if she can have a giant 10-foot-tallton statue for her yard how do we feel about it i don't know 10 feet tall it's it's as tall as uh she

she sent me a comp it's as tall as a second floor uh second story window is it like ebay like she needs to know right now like it's it looks like it's a picture from someone down the street maybe she's going to pick it up what do i tell her i don't know it could be really cool where would yeah would i mean you have a child who's inevitably going to be super into that movie in a few years but do you think it's a spoiler for that movie? Ooh. Yeah. No spoiler. This is a no spoiler household, right? Yeah, no, we hate spoilers.

You hate spoiler statues too. Yeah, exactly. Like if she sees the statue and then suddenly she watches this movie, she'll be like, wait, is this a statue? And then she thinks that the whole movie is about a statue comes to life. I don't know.

You're turning me around on this. I think it's a no-go for the- That's a no can no can do that's a no can do search um i like that she's asking your permission though that yeah well she does for everything yeah that she yeah because i have the power of the purse it's like congress basically i i allow the power of the purse. It's like Congress. Basically, I allow- The power of the purse. Power of the purse. That's right.

She's the president. Okay, Madam President. Yeah, fine. But I have the power of the purse. And that's what we said in our vows, by the way. You are the president. But I have the power of the purse. Okay, so the river,

we heard there were 11 songs on sides one and sides two that first record and then um there are nine on sides three and four so it's like two less essentially okay so those are the stats great so it averages out to be five songs per side but one of the sides has six one of the sides has four but it evens out in the wash to where there are 20 tracks when when it's washed it's all the same by the way got to wash your albums. I know. People are out there. I'm sick of telling people, wash your music. Wash your stinky music. It gets gross. Okay, so you want to hear some of this shit?

Okay, so this is side three. Point Break is the first song. Just kidding. Point Break is the first song. Just kidding. Point Break. I love when he shoots his gun in the air. Just in frustration. Johnny Utah. Yeah.

That's a great name. That's a great cinematic name. It's a fantastic movie. Remember that Between Two Ferns question we did for you where we listed your character names no we were like you played such characters as we listed some of the like lame names you play you didn't remember any of them i my favorite is and i have to say my kids favorite is when you say comedy or when zach said comedy drama what can you do um good stuff uh okay where are we oh yeah yeah yeah so um the river so this

is you've you've listened to the first disc yes Yes. You've thrown that away. You've thrown that in the trash. This is disc two of The River by Bruce Springsteen. Fuck. I mean. I think there's nothing else we can do but just get to it. I think you're right. You weren't a, well, never mind.

That'll start a totally different. Oh, my t-shirt? Yeah. Got it on eBay. Did you get it on eBay since we saw the, we were keeping it Sikh. Yeah, keeping it a big Sikh. Keeping it a big Sikh. But, okay, here we go.

This is track one of side three of the river. This is Point Blank by Bruce Springsteen. guitar solo You used to say your prayers, little darling Do you go to bed at night? Praying that tomorrow Everything will be alright But tomorrow's falling number You're number one by one

You wake up and you die you don't even know what from well they shot you point blank you've been shot in the back baby point blank

you're fool this time little girl I suffice right between

the eyes baby born blind right between the pretty lies that they tell Point Blank.

A somber start to Side 3. Yeah, I really like Point Blank. I'm looking right now to see if he played this when you saw him at msg can you look up culture club tour dates as well yeah we'll check that out real quick springsteen has stated one of the themes of the song is the fact that if you ease up as you get older you effectively cease to exist what what does that mean what a kook um this is uh he he's introducing it at a 1981 concert and he he says

a song ain't no good till somebody hears it Ain't no good till somebody hears it. All right. Okay. What are you looking up? If he played Point Blank. At the MSG show? Yeah.

On April Fool's Day. Did he? He. I did not. Did you say April Fool's after the show was over? April fools thought i was gonna play point blank he goes he's he's introduced point blank as his favorite song and then he said april fools fuck off and he didn't even play the show go fuck off that'd be a terrible april fools joke if you bought tickets for a show and then they came out and said i'm not playing hey listen those tickets ain't cheap no they're in fact expensive

yeah that's what i meant um this song is about regrets and uh singer dreams he's still with his former girlfriend. They're dancing together, but then he wakes up. He realizes he saw her standing in the doorway trying to stay out of the rain, looking like just another stranger waiting to get blown away. Point blank! She grew up fast, but rather than getting the life she wanted, she ended up on welfare. Oh, and by the way,

third reference to one of the Starcrossed lovers. That's right. Old Romeo himself in a Springsteen song. Not on this album, but in general. In general, yeah. I was going to be a Romeo. You were going to be my Juliet. I love Romeo and Juliet.

It does. I played Romeo. Did you? Where? I did. At Cal Shakes up in Berkeley. What little spin did you put on it? I did it in iambic pentameter.

Oh, cool. Which no one had done before. No one had ever done that before? Nope. That's awesome. It worked. I mean, it really fit the dialogue. It was cool.

You had to take out a word here or two. Yeah, yeah. Here or there. But with Shakespeare, it's always super loose. Yeah. What do you think of this song? I think this is a great song. I really like Point Blank.

And it's cool that Side 3 starts with something a little more serious, especially with the river having just ended. with something a little more serious, especially with the river having just ended. It's cool. It makes the album more weighty to have songs like this. I think Springsteen felt like this is one of the cornerstones of the record, this song, this and the river and some of the other slow stuff.

But of course, he couldn't put all of that on just a single disc because it would have been boring. And not on this song, not on the this uh song not on the single album nope uh i guess i guess it got up to nine minutes um because there's a lot more verses that they cut out how long is it on the album it's six minutes so that would have been three minutes longer approximately wait give or take 20 hundred minutes you have a calculator a little calc a little calcum powder just kidding hi i'm dubbing 60 minutes um yeah i guess i guess there were a lot more he he he wrote a version of it and then

he wasn't satisfied so he wrote like three more verses and the producer um was like hey can we cut this down and he goes no i wrote those verses because the song wasn't good enough yet he goes and the producer says yeah those verses are obviously like tacked on they don't really fit yeah and it's fucking nine minutes yeah bro snippy snips snip three of them mins right off of there what do you think of point playing i like it i it is odd that the first record ends with the river and the next one starts with point blank it's i think it's like setting the tape. Yeah, it's like a palette cleanser. Yeah, yeah.

I like the song a lot. I think it's cool. Yeah. All right, this is track two. This is Cadillac Ranch, and this is by Bruce Springsteen from Side 3 of the River. Hmm. Side three of the river. Well, if she said somebody just a gleaming in the sun

I'd agree to walk a mile when this day is gone I'm gonna pack my ball And I'm gonna pack my ant I'm gonna take them down To the Cadillac ranch It'll run out of pins Every rat was in spurs Rats just like the little bat Even here on earth

But buddy when I die I throw my body in the back Drive me to the junkyard In the Cadillac Cadillac, Cadillac On dark, shiny black Open up your engine, set it back Turn up the highway like a big old dinosaur

James Dean and that Murphy Ford Cadillac Ranch. A rocker. Some might wonder why not start side three with this. Yeah. I don't. I think that's the wisdom of a fool. Oh, so if someone did do that, you would call them a fool.

That's the wisdom of a fool. So they are a fool. Yes. No, I wouldn't. I rest my case. It's about the Cadillac Ranch in Amarillo, Texas, I guess, which is about a bunch of Cadillacs sticking up out of the

ground. It's a metaphor for these things which used to be luxurious automobiles, how it just, everything just kind of goes to shit. And automobiles, how everything just kind of goes to shit. And music critic Dave Marsh says this song

made dinosaurs dance. Ew. What the fuck are you talking about? That means... No, that's fine. That's fine. Early editor of Pre Magazine, Dave Marsh. Another bit of trivia about this song is that, I guess, in the stewed, in between snacks,

between ants on a log, Springsteen getting loopy did a lot of the verses as Richard Nixon. A lot of takes as Richard Nixon. Is that on tape? I have not heard it, but apparently it was cracking everyone up. Cadillac! Cadillac! I could see that being funny for a couple minutes, but a lot of takes? It's like one take. Hey, we're laughing our asses off.

Eventually someone had to go, Hey, Bruce. Like, time is money. Is that crowd noise? It's crowd noise. Is that song, is that a live take of the song? No, that is me having this, unfortunately, on random and it going to a different song. Got it.

But it was cool to hear crowd noise. It was almost like we were getting applause. I like it. For a Richard Nixon chunk. I like it. For a Richard Nixon chunk. I like it. How do you feel about Cadillac Ranch? It's fine. What?

Not my fave. It's a toss-off, maybe, but... I just... Cadillacs and... I just... You don't like Cadillacs? I don't know Cadillacs. There's old Cadillacs and just songs about

them and it's like imagery and I just I'm sick of it. You're sick of Cadillacs? I'm sick of like. You're sick of people singing about Cadillacs? How many songs? This is boring.

So wait a minute. You don't want to hear Bruce springsteen sing about cars anymore no he sings about cars a lot this one to me is just boring it's it's boring to me i don't love this song never did never liked cadillac ranch have you have you shouted that at the stage i don't like cadillac ranch. Thank you for not playing it. Did you hear about the Pink concert? But when this comes out, this will be three weeks old. But she kicked someone out of the front row.

Guy buys front row tickets. Also, he can hold up a sign railing about how circumcision is like mutilation. That's what he was doing? Yeah. And she's like, hey, what's your sign say? And then she reads it and she's like, oh my God, you spent this amount of money just to hold this out? Get the fuck out of here. Really?

She kicked him out? Because I guess there's like a thing with like she posted a picture of her baby years ago or something like that. And now all the circumcision people are up in arms about it. Well, I guess it's her prerogative. If she can kick people out for any reason, is that, is that there's a sign above every pink show that says we retain the right

to kick any, any of your asses. We can refuse business to anyone. Um, all right. You don't want to hear songs about cars anymore. No, that's not true. Fucking noted. There are so many great Bruce Springsteen songs about cars. Like what?

Born to Run. What about you? Born to Run? He's talking about running. By way of jumping into a car. What do you think about this? You think Born to Run is about a guy saying, like, I was born to run to this car? Yeah, it's about the trip between the house and the car.

How do you like Cadillac Ranch? I like it. I like the sound of it. Yeah. It's a little simple, but it's a fun kind of burst of energy in the middle of uh yeah i hear that in the middle of a second steaming platter of hot wax i just i always skip it okay well we didn't skip it here sorry nope you could have asked you have by the way you have the right to say hey let's skip this one i have reserved the right to refuse business to anyone. You almost refused me. And this is my house that we're recording this in. I almost kicked you out.

Yeah. All right. This is track three on side three. This is I'm a Rocker. And this is by Bruce Springsteen. That's more like it. So you like the sound of this song better. It's not about the fact that it's about a car.

Also, just yelling about Cadillac. I don't know. I don't care. I guarantee you, if I yelled at you about a Cadillac, you would pay attention. Probably, but I wouldn't like it check out my new cataract get out of here You think this is more like it. Yeah, I love this song. It was a great one.

I'm a rocker. And it's called I'm a rocker, which makes you think it might be lame, but it's awesome. But it's actually really good. Makes you think it might be lame, but it's awesome. But it's actually really good. He was considering giving this to the Ramones in lieu of Hungry Heart. I could hear them playing this.

No? You think it would be a weird fit? Well, you know, so many weird, disparate musicians have covered his songs. I'm sure it would be great. It's just like the Ramones, everything they put out is so perfect. They would speed it up and simplify it. Yeah, yeah. I'd like to hear it, I guess.

Did they never do Hungry Heart? No, because he never gave it to them. But you can cover anything you want, I would imagine. No, he put a restraining order on the song. They couldn't even listen to it. Oh my God. Can't you cover whatever you want? You don't even need an artist's permission, right?

You mean they're blessed? Yeah, you don't need their bless. I guess you could if you want to be a real goon about it. But yeah. Okay, I'm a Rocker is a good song. We have agreed. Finally, we were really at odds with each other. Yeah.

It was quite uncomfortable. But we finally agreed and we said that I'm a Rocker is good. Okay. So then we go to track four on side three. This is a song called fade away. And this is by Bruce Springsteen. Now you say you found another man Who does things to you that I can't And that no matter what I do It's all or nothing between me and you, girl. Well, I can't believe what you say.

No, I can't believe what you say. Cause, baby, I don't want to fade away. God. What's wrong? This song is fucking great. Tell me what can I do, what can I say? What's wrong? This song is fucking great. Tell him. Bruce, this has been covered quite a bit, hasn't it?

I don't know. That's a good question. Has it been covered? I feel like it has. I don't see anything on the peed page about it being ever covered. But that doesn't mean anything. Let me look up in my Zik collection.

It's not on the peed page? It's not. Usually they have who's covered it on there. I don't see anything in my collect. Anyway, great song. He was trying to write something like Stand By Me. Yeah.

I mean, it's so great. Yeah, good shit. Nice, simple, beautiful. Got a little Steven backup vocal. Yeah, it's great. He's singing the right words. Same ones that Bruce Springsteen are singing. Hard to get them on the same page sometimes.

Yeah, but you know, when they are on the same page. When they are on the same page and you sing the words that Bruce is singing. It's great. At the same time as Bruce. It's great. Yeah, cool song. All right. So then.

Great song. One of my favorites. One of your favorites your favorites oh from this album for sure i want to when we get to the end we got to pick our what we our faves yeah our faves our raves for faves okay so this is the final track on side three this is a song called stolen car by by Bruce Springsteen. I met a little girl and I settled down In a little house out on the edge of town We got married and swore we'd never part And little by little we drifted From each other's arms

The first I thought was just restlessness That would fade as time went by And I'm lonely In the end it was something more I guess That tore us apart and made us real I'm driving a stolen car Down on Eldridge Avenue Each night I wait to get caught

But I never do Stolen Car. What do you think? Yeah. I like Stolen Car very much. I think it's... It's like the most modern sounding song to me. Like the most forward sounding song. Because it's sort of atypical because it's got sort of like a very droney background.

It's kind of like a Velvet Underground song to me in a little way of like a know a droney background but um it also reminds me of something that would be on zuropa like this part especially when the backing vocals come on it sounds like old sound yeah it does is sounds like a like a comment on johnny cash right yeah it. It sounds like, yeah, you're right. It sounds like The Wanderer. But like a simplified version of this, I could totally, with the melody and stuff, I could totally see it being on Nebraska. Yeah.

Now, the original version was on the one disc version. Do you want to hear that? Is it different? It's very different. And I don't think it's good, but some people love it. But let's hear it and judge for ourselves. What do you say? Okay.

Judge and jury? Yeah. And executioner. We get to execute the song if we don't like it. Hmm. Well, I found me a little girl and I settled down In a pretty little house in a pretty little town We got married and promised never to part

And little by little we drifted from each other's hearts Now I'm driving a stolen car On a pitch black night And I'm doing my best to make it through Well, I'm just sitting down here at the standing light I want to get caught, but I never do At first I thought it was just restlessness See, for me it sounds a little just plain. Yeah, I like it though. I don't know if I like it more, but it's awesome.

You're clapping your hands right now. Dancing. clapping your hands right now. Dancing. It feels kind of boilerplate Springsteen to me a little bit. Sure. So I like the other one better, but it is cool. Even boilerplate Springsteen is pretty good. Yeah.

Stolen car! That is the last song on this side. So how do we feel about side three? Side three is pretty packed with Stone Cold classics for me, except for Cadillac Ranch. And Cadillac Ranch is only three minutes. You can't sit through three minutes. I can sit through it,

but I think that should have been left off the album that's the one you think should be left because okay there what's interesting about this record is this was put out before compact discs right and the the the amount of minutes on a compact disc which by the way was 79 or something it's 79 something but it was based upon when they were inventing the compact disc they were they figured out how big it had to be and then they were figuring out how much music could be on it and they made it a little bit bigger because they were like we need a symphony to be on it was all based on like the the time a whole complete symphony would be on so that was that it was basically,

they were, they were really keeping it in mind for the classical music lover, um, having an 80 minute symphony on one disc. Right. But this whole album, the river is 80, two minutes and 58 seconds.

So it's two minutes and 58 seconds or about three minutes too long for one disc so they've always had to sell it i remember it being one of those big big gigantic yeah those double discs um which made it so expensive right now in hindsight i wonder if he was thinking like man i wish i wish i could have left one off yeah one song off this is the one you would pick. Yes. Okay. I have mine that I would pick, but we haven't gotten it. I think I must have had the river because I remember having that.

Having that chunky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just big, like a sandwich. Yeah, like a delicious hoagie. Like a grinder. Okay. So you would leave off and that would work because it's three minutes and two seconds. Yeah.

So you'd have four, four seconds to spare. I love it. Okay. So that's track or that's side three. We're going to take a break and we're going to come back and we're going to go through. Excuse me. We're going to go through side four of a little, a little album called the river. Okay. a little album called the river. Wow.

Okay. We're going to come right back with more. Are you spring and spring scene on my bean? We'll be right back. I hear the sound of your guitar. Hey, welcome back. I hope you hear the sound of guitars. You're in the middle of a rock song. I don't hear the guitars on this one.

Hey, Bruce, that's just step one. Turn them up, bro. Welcome back. You spring in Springsteen on my bean. On my bean? On my bean. And we're talking about the river, and we've gotten up to the final four songs.

This is side four of four and um you excited adam yeah yeah so am i because i mean sides one through three great you have a minor quibble you would take off cadillac cadillac you think that Born to Run is about running to a car. Sounds like something that would be written on the back of a beer t-shirt. Who would write on the back of a beer t-shirt? Cadillac Ranch? Like one of the Bud Light girls is signing shirts for people?

No, it would be printed on. Oh, printed, not written? That's right. Be careful with your choice of words. Let's start your favorite song title of all time. Okay, this is side four of the river. This is a song called Ramrod. It's by Bruce Springsteen. Little Dolly with the blue jeans on Wanna wear them right with you honey

Till the heavens calm Let your hair down mama And pick up his feet Come on and meet me tonight Down on Bluebird Street I've been working all week, I'm up to mine, I get high When it comes Saturday night, I let my rap run wild Well, she's a hot step and happy with a fool on the floor

Well, she's a hot-steppin' heavy with a full on the floor She's a roadrunner engine in a 32-4 Late at night when I'm dead on the line I swear I think of your pretty face when I let her a while Well, he looked over yonder, see them city lights Yeah, come on, little dolly, go and run tonight Well, I said, come on, come on, come on, little baby Come on, come on, come on Little baby, come on, come on Let's shake it tonight

Come on, come on, come on Let us dance with your daddy And we'll go rock and roll Ramrod. Is this what you would cut off the album? No. I like Ramrod. I also think it's kind of necessary for a side four.

It just needed a song like this. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's one of the greatest songs ever written. I just think it's like, oh, okay, a little boost of energy to get us to the finish line. This was never a single that reached number 30 on the billboard hot mainstream rock tracks charts and a live favorite i like the organ sound yeah i i don't it's very simple yeah yeah it's not like how like ranch to you my which apparently you feel like you have such a problem with me

not liking that song. But you feel as if anytime things like veer it into like traditionalist stuff. Rockabilly. It's just not my favorite.

You don't like the Stray Cats? I loved the Stray I loved the Blasters. Okay. How about Dave Edmonds? Well, yeah. He's in the Blasters. Okay, how about Dave Edmonds? Well, yeah, he's in the Blasters. No.

Yeah, he was in the Blasters. Wasn't that his band? No, no, no. Dave Edmonds is a solo artist. He was in Rock Pile. Dave Edmonds wasn't in the Blasters? No, I think you're thinking of a guy by the name of Phil Alvin. Oh, I'm thinking of Phil Alvin.

I'm thinking of Phil Alvin. Who's also, he also had a really cool solo career. Yeah. With like more kind of pure country music. Also, was Dave Alvin in X? Is that who you're thinking of? Dave Alvin and Phil Alvin. Yeah.

But no, Dave Edmonds. Dave Edmonds, yeah. No, you're right. He's a traditionalist kind of guy, but always made it seem kind of, oh my God, you're yawning. That felt great, I have to say. Let's all, sometimes,

and maybe it's just mostly when I hang out with you, yawning, it's such a relief. Let's take a moment to just yawn our silly heads off. Here we go. Ready? I don't think that was a yawn, Adam. Oh, that's not a yawn? That was a butthole yawn.

All right. All right. All right. And I just want to say welcome real quick to the hardcore Bruce Springsteen fans. But yeah, so you have an issue with Cadillac Rage. I don't have any issue with it. I just don't like it very much. You don't like it because it's simple. It's too much like a 50s rockabilly song.

This is not my favorite feeling or sound. Well, you didn't like the other version. I feel like it's just, I've heard so much of that. You didn't like the other version of You Can Look? It's like Frank Sinatra. It's like that whole Rat Pack. I don't need to hear any of that. I've heard enough.

Just as like a bystander on earth, you get so much of that. I'll give you a choice. Particularly if you go to the Grove for the Americana. If you're watching the fountain dances. Let me give you a choice. If you could choose

to only hear new songs for the rest of your life or only hear songs that have already been recorded what would you choose uh probably songs that have already been recorded because i know what i like because you like those and you're like yeah frank sinatra love it what yeah rockabilly love it is that the trick you're playing on me is that you're gonna choose the already recorded songs that i can only know i think but i think it's interesting because there's probably a lot of songs you've never heard before that you'd you'd still be able to discover new stuff but but you would never be able to hear anything new ever again yeah i mean that would be a bummer but i would choose it because I wouldn't want to give up the things that mean so much to me throughout my life that I would never get to hear again.

Like, what was the song you played when you were walking down the aisle? God, I don't even remember. Here comes Mr. Big Shot. Yeah, that's right. remember here comes mr big shot yeah that's right um god i wish i did that would be hilarious do you remember any of the songs from from your wedding yeah because we had like a like a it was in hawaii so it was like a an island state sort of uh band but, but we had them play. I asked them if they could learn classic rock songs, but play with like ukuleles and play like Hawaiian versions.

And they said, nope. Yeah, they learned like one or two. And then at one point they were playing some like current hit. We were taking pictures and i heard them playing god i wish i could remember what it was naomi would know current at the time what year was this in 2005 2005 it was some current so this is the 25th anniversary of the river so they're probably that had just come out on ipods that's right so i think that um but i ran out of the photo we were posing for to tell them to stop

playing ah that's so funny god i wish i could remember what it was it it just was so it let me let me look up top 40 songs of 2005 let's see 2005 top like 40 songs. Like acoustic-y, ballad-y. You're beautiful. Something like that. No, it wasn't that, no. Feel Good Incorporated by Gorillaz. Behind These Hazel Eyes by Kelly Clarkson. Of course, that was famously,

there was a disagreement between her and Clive Davis over whether that's a hit or not? He felt like she didn't have any singles on her second record. Oh, because she wrote them all? Well, we'll figure it out at some point. We'll figure it out. Ask Naomi about it, and maybe we'll catch back up on the next Nebraska episode, and we'll hear something.

Whoa! Adam touched his headphones, and they flew off his head. Oh my god. I've never seen... They jumped off your head like, I gotta get off this guy's head. Jesus. They do not like me. Okay, you ready to hear

track two of side four? Yes. This is The Price You Pay by Bruce Springsteen. here track two of side four yes this is the price you pay by bruce fraser you make up your mind You choose the chance you take You ride to where the highway ends And the desert breaks Out onto an open road

You ride until the day You learn to sleep at night With the price you pay Now with their hands held high They reached out for the open skies And in one last breath, they built the roads they'd ride to their day Driving on through the night, unable to break away From the restless pull Of the price you pay

Oh, the price you pay Oh, the price you pay Now you can't walk away from the price you pay. Price you pay. Love it. Just going to say it. I love it.

Is this the one you want to cut off? Yeah. Really? Why? I've never been able to get into this. Why do you have such a problem with this song? You're in the hot seat, bro. Now you know how it fucking feels. It's too hot. I don't like it.

Alright, don't roast your buns any longer. Get in the cold seat. You're fine. Yeah, I don't know why i i've never been able to grasp on to the melody yeah or anything i hear it it's uh 5 30 a little bit longer on the um the one disc version of the record it fades out fades out a little later um but yeah i don't know this is the one i would have left off yeah personally but uh i don't know why okay i've listened to it so many times and i'm always just like that we get it we get it we get it we get it we get it we get it not your fave my least fave see how well I'm taking this? Fine. You're furious right now.

Yeah, but I'm making it seem like I don't care. But you're red in the face. I am pissed. But you love it. That's good to know. I like it. You like it. I love it.

I think it's great. You love it. You're in love with it? I'm deeply in love with that song okay um let's go to track three this is the second to last track this is live all night eight minute and 33 second song this is drive all night by bruce springsteen and we're going to listen to it twice in a row yep so put on a pot of coffee, everyone. I lost you honey, sometimes I think I lost my guts too I wish God would send me the word, send me something I'm afraid to lose Lying in the heat of the night

Like prisoners all our lives I get shivers down my spine, girl, and all I want to do is hold you tight. I swear I'd drive all night again Just to buy you some shoes And to taste your tender charm And I just want to sleep tonight again In your arms oh yeah oh yeah guitar solo Tonight there's fallen angels

And they're waiting for us down in the street And tonight there Just calling strangers Hear them crying In defeat Let them go Let them go Let them go To the dancers of the dead.

And I'm bored out of here. Just dry your eyes. Hey, come on, come on, come on. Okay, so this is Drive All Night. This was recorded for Darkness. Oh, it was? But then they intended to re-record it but they listened to this and they were like and this is just like a run-through in the studio no one knew how it was gonna go you hear max weinberg just kind of like keeping a beat right there's no idea

where it's going or anything like that but they all listen to it back in their life this is fucking amazing why are we gonna re-record this so they just kept this did a few overdubs spring scene changed a couple of the lyrics i came in and punched in what do you think i i i like it i mean it's very much in e street but like you said it doesn't surprise me that it was sort of a live to tape yeah i think yeah it's great in concert too yeah this is one of the special things about this band they can make something like this and have it be interesting and beautiful. And it's about driving, so you're still okay with it? Yeah, I'm fine. I don't want to hear about a Cadillac ranch. What if he were to be driving in a Cadillac all night?

I would have a problem with that. You'd have an issue. Okay, so I'm pretty sure it's a Cadillac is your problem. If someone were to give you a Cadillac, would that solve your problem, or would you turn it down? I don't... It's just... All the... The Cadillac company comes to you and says, Adam, we want to just...

No strings attached, you don't even have to post about it. I grew up in the 1980s, right in the midst of boomer nostalgia for the 50s. This shit was fucking everywhere the boys of summer the all the old cars and the it just don't need any more of it you like new cars what do you like whatever what do you what do you just want to hear about you great their car was in 1955. You and your Tatooine buddy, Elon Musk, making cars for you. That's what you want to hear about in songs. All I want to hear in songs is all about Elon Musk and his process.

Which, by the way, I would take a song about an old Cadillac any day over fucking Elon Musk. I think Grimes sings about him exclusively. I would imagine. All right. Drive all night. It lasts eight and a half minutes. And this is great. He's like doing this live in the studio,

all this stuff. You've got, you've got my love. Oh girl, you've got my love oh girl you've got my love you've got you've got my love good stuff yeah are you a fan of that yeah i do i do like it um it it is just one of those like simple songs where you can take one chord progression and literally do it for eight and a half minutes. The way you keep it interesting is by changing the vocal melody and then also like, okay, now the sax is going to do some stuff.

It's like a testament to... But that was just left over from Darkness on the edge of town and just like sitting around. Yeah. And they were like, Oh, let's rerecord this. Turned it on.

Went boy. What are you looking at Adam? Oh, so it wasn't on the original. It was not on the original now. Um, okay. Now we're at the last song on,

on side four, which means the last song on the whole entire project the entire piece of content this is the last piece of content on a larger piece of content um this is a song called wreck on the highway and this is by bruce springsteen Last night I was out driving Coming home at the end of working day I was riding along through the drizzling rain On a deserted stretch of a county too late When I came upon a wreck on the highway

Now there was blood and glass all over And there was nobody there but me As the rain tumbled down hard and cold I seen a young man lying by the side of the road He cried, mister, won't you help me please wreck on the highway adam i love springsteen story songs yeah this is a song about someone who wrecks their cadillac, I think. That's why I like it, because the Cadillac gets destroyed. This is the last song recorded for the album, and it's the last song on the album.

No shit. Yeah. I shit you not. And it's... Clinton Halen, the music critic, described the song as Springsteen's semi-ironic farewell to albums about cars and girls. Hmm. This is like, there is a lot of car imagery on this album, and he's doing it intentionally, I think. Because he's saying no more?

But he does more, doesn't he? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. no more but he does more doesn't he yeah maybe i don't know but i but but i think he's doing it intentionally in terms of like i think he's trying to say like all the car imagery from the 50s and all the hopeful optimism of the 50s there's really nothing to it because because if you look at a lot of these lyrics it is a kind of like a depressing album and this this last side is sort of the bridge into the next record i think yeah um which is a very depressing record yes um but well we'll talk about yeah we'll talk about when it comes up so uh a more somber side four but one that I think makes definitely somber side for,

by the way, a fake ending comes back around. Um, I got caught up in a fake ending once. Dennis Miller show learned my lesson. Yep. You almost wooed at the end of this, but no,

or it wasn't a woo. It was more of a yeah. Yeah. Do we have that handy to listen to i'll try to find it but um it was the cowboy junkies right yeah um yeah i it definitely i i'm trying to imagine someone like just putting on side four for fun on their record player. I guess you would put it on on a Sunday.

Only on Sundays. Only on Sundays, the Lord's Day. I mean, they're awesome songs. It's just, it's more of a mood. Yeah, definitely. But the album is so expansive. There's so many different moods on mood. Yeah, definitely. But the album is so expansive.

There's so many different moods on it. Yeah. A lot of people, this is their favorite. That was it. Yeah. This is their favorite song. Yeah, or their favorite album of Bruce Springsteen's. A lot of people feel this is his masterpiece. It's so funny because,

um, or one of his masterpieces, I went to one of the river shows where he played the entire album as the, pretty much the first half of a three and a half hour show. Yeah. Um, and it's so funny that the album ends on such a somber note because that song ends and he always has to be i listen to some tape of some other shows and he always has to be like

and that's the river yeah like okay we're done now well it's not one of these like albums that like when you go see a musical they have uh a huge closing number that everyone's clapping along with it's just a very somber end well when we went to see the joshua tree tour they had to open with streets have no name right which is usually the thing that they the close well it's the start of the encore so it gets everybody so they open with that and then they had to close with mothers of the disappeared exactly it's um you got to think about that because, you know, if you put out a classic record,

you're probably gonna be touring, doing a whole- In 30 years, you're gonna be touring that. 20, yeah. You're gonna, and so like, make the last song, you know, something pretty peppy. Yeah, like,

you two should have ended Joshua Tree with a song maybe called Thank You for Coming. Like Walking On Sunshine. Yeah, Walking On Sunshine. Should have just done a cover of that. Yeah. Think about it, bands.

So yeah, that's The River. How do we feel about The River? I think it's a great album. I think his masterpieces are still to come. Okay. Interesting. Although Born to Run, I don't know. It's also incredible.

I mean, he's made, what is he? Is this his fourth album? This is his fifth. Fifth album? He did the first two, which is sort of atypical. Then he hit it with Born to Run, then Darkness. Yeah, yeah. His fifth album.

is sort of atypical then he hit it with born to run then darkness yeah yeah his fifth album and he's already made arguably two masterpieces some would say three three because of darkness yeah yeah a lot yeah um yeah i think it's i think it's great we'll figure we'll figure out exactly no we'll figure out where no but so far so far it probably is my favorite so far. Yeah. Yeah. I just love the breadth of it. I love how rocking it is. It definitely does capture their live sound in a way that hasn't been captured on tape at this point. It's fun to... I remember when I discovered it, I couldn't believe how great it was. It was thick like a hamburger.

That thick jewel case. Oh, yeah. Just biting into a juicy burger yep that's why they almost named this album juicy burger and you discovered it back in 2005 2005 and you know back in 2005 burgers weren't as juicy as they are now oh man they're so juicy now um do you want to hear a couple of the songs that were cut out i do uh okay so so let's let's focus on the ones that are from the one disc okay yeah let's do that so the difference is i listened to it in the week that that we um that we took off in between these i listened to the differences um between all the

songs so i can kind of take you through them. So the first song, The Ties That Bind, it's the same instruments, but he did a better vocal performance. Do you have all this stuff? Yeah. Where is it? It's over there.

I've been looking at this. For two full episodes, you gave me this piece of card. Well, that has all the info on it. I know, but I've been looking at this. Well, that for two full episodes, you gave me this piece of cardboard. Well, that has all the info on it. I know, but I want to see all this stuff. Adam's pointing to a picture of all the discs laid out. He has this incredible box set, and he gave me the cardboard thing

you're supposed to throw away. I gave it to you because that has all the info of what tracks are what. I know, but look at all these cool props to look at fuck off there's like a whole book about the river and i'm yeah there's a whole book about the river there is it's right do you have that yeah that's over there mine i can't look at it no it looks cool um do you want to hear just the differences in the vocal takes of the ties the bind yeah okay so this is the this is going to be like the talking heads this is this is the real version that that was put out we'll hear this song no vocals yet

okay so that's the official version. Okay. This is the original version that he almost put out. On the single album. On the single newer one yeah interesting sounds a little mixed a little differently too if i it's a little muddier yeah um so i think that's that's an improvement for sure it's much cleaner but also maybe the newer one's been remastered and stuff well they they could i mean they could have done whatever they wanted with this remastered

because it came anyway Anyway, who cares? Okay, so this is track two. This was left off any version. Yeah. This is a song called Cindy. I pick you up with flowers when you get off of work. It's like you don't even care. It's like I'm some kind of jerk.

I take you out on a date and then you won't even kiss me. Boy, when I ain't around, but you don't even miss me. I don't know why. I love you like I do. I try and try. You treat me like a fool. It makes me want to cry. It makes me feel so blue.

But I just do, baby, I just do. But I just do, baby, I just do I call you up just a glass of time Soon as you hear my voice You disconnect the line And when I call you back Your mother says you ain't home Cindy, I know that you On the other end of this phone

Oh, and this world There ain't another like you My little candy girl So hard-hearted and cruel I think that's what So kind of a Buddy Holly. I like it. It's cool. Yeah. Also, the thing that distinguishes it from being a total 50s pastiche is the lyrics are more weird where she obviously doesn't like him and he's kind of stalking her or something.

But also, it doesn't sound totally like some sort of pastiche either. It has a more E Street Band feel to it. It does have the little bells kind of that are in a Buddy Holly type song, but it's cool. Yeah, so could have been on the regular record maybe you would have put that on instead of the dreaded cadillac ranch okay so then it goes to track three, which is Hungry Heart. The slowed down Hungry Heart.

Yeah, the original speed version. Let's hear it just a little bit. Sounds weird, doesn't it? It does sound weird. It sounds like out of tune. Fart, fart, fart, fart. okay let's hear the single version okay the the well the double album version that was the regular version uh is right here here we go Here we go.

So much better. Yeah. It should speed everything up. Shows. TV shows and movies. Yeah. Like Oppenheimer. Put it on at 1.5 speed, please.

That movie would, what, be like two hours? Yeah, 1.5. And cut out the last hour of it, too. The last hour. Okay, so then we have the, and we heard it a little bit of it before, but I'm just playing it to give you an idea of everything in sequence. This is the stolen car. This is the original version. Oh, right.

Okay, so this is the first sort of slow song. Weird album. Yeah. The original. It's a weird album. It's like kind of thin. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so that's so it goes to that.

Yeah. And then the last song on side one is, and this is a classic. This ended up being a B-side for some reason. Yeah, they left it off. Left it off of every version, but this could easily have been on the officially released version.

This is Be True. Be True. Your scrapbook's filled with pictures of all your leanin' days Well, baby, don't put my picture in there without me Don't make us some little girl's dream that can never come true It only serves to make you cry like you do I mean, this is a B-side. Yeah. It's crazy. I would have started disc two with this yeah and then put point blank after this and i would have fired bruce springsteen yeah and then you're out of here fire the songwriter

lead singer you're out of here buddy uh and get rid of Cadillac Branch. Would you have taken that off the album? I would have taken it off the album so fast. Yeah, this is a classic. This is great. What a great song. And so that's the end of side one. Side two starts with the river. Also, what a classic.

Listen to that. Classic. A little bit different. Is there is it doesn't have overdubs i believe and has a different coda you mean they just played it live and no no just this is the original version then in the year that it took to get it but they they played a few more like instruments on top of that and stuff like that so that's the river and then it goes to the original version of you can look but you better not touch which you do not like not really let's hear the one that ended up on the double album. Okay. Okay, so that's the original.

And then this is the... So much better. Oh, my God. Okay. And then this is the... So much better. Oh, my God. Okay. So it goes from that into The Price You Pay, which is my least favorite song. But we'll hear it just in terms of context.

Like I said, fades out a little bit later later there's about an extra 45 seconds or so or this is a weird song not to like i'm a weird guy okay and then it goes into i want to marry you which from what i can tell doesn't really have a lot of differences maybe the mix and this is loose ends another great one i think let's hear it yeah this is a good song They worked on this a lot. They did like 30 takes, and then he threw it away. Does he play this live ever? I think once this came out, he would play it, but yeah.

But be true, they play it live sometimes. He played it on the River Tour, I think, a lot. Yeah, this is a good song. Yeah. So if he had put that out, I think he was right to do it the way he did it. If he had put that record out, it would have been like, eh, okay. Who knows? I mean, there's so many great songs on there.

It's just, he's right that it wasn't, it was like undercooked. It wasn't ready. Do you want to hear a couple other songs? Yeah, yeah. The outtakes and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, okay, so for those of you who don't have it the deluxe version that they put out in 2015 has then um another disc after all of that that is 80 minutes long adam by the way is he got up and now he's searching

through all my things because he wants to touch my things. So he's searching for the actual deluxe box. Yeah, it's in that pile. Yeah, that's some of it. There you go. He's touching my books. He's touching everything. I hate it. So basically there is another double disc that's as long as the river, just three minutes shy.

Yeah, it's huge. It's huge, and it's all of outtakes. Some of them were outtakes that are straight from 1980, and some were improved upon. But let's hear some of the best ones, in my opinion. This is what he would start every river tour when i say the river tour i mean uh the the 2015 tour where he played the river in full every single night this is how they would start it every single night oh they wouldn't start with the they no no he wanted to start with like an upbeat song before he says hey we're gonna play the river oh

interesting yeah so he would start with this song every single night. This is Meet Me in the City. This is so cool. One, two, three, four. Hey girl, I'm calling all stations. Blowing down Hawaii tonight I'm singing through these power lines And I'm running on time and feeling alright

Skipping over the currents in the air Reaching to see if you're out there Come across your radio station Calling out nation to nation If you can hear me then say all right and if you can so they it's so good so good they they they did the instrumental of it and never and just put it aside and so i think what happened was springsteen then wrote lyrics for it and sang it in 2014 oh no shit yeah yeah so this he like completed it then so it's sang it in 2014. Oh, no shit. Yeah, yeah. So he completed it then.

So it's basically like a great 2014 Springsteen song, better than some of the stuff he was putting out at the time. Wow. Yeah, this sounds great live, too. It's so good. That's one of my favorites. Let's hear Roulette, because that ended up being a b-side

down the line for i think born in the usa maybe i can't really recall but this is roulette this is another like ended up being for which song uh roulette i i feel like it was a born in the usa b-side oh a. Yeah, yeah. But here's Roulette. guitar solo Left the toys out in the yard I took my wife and kids And I left my home unguarded The fact that we couldn't do the car No one here knows how it started

But suddenly everything was just so out of control Now I want some rest But I need to know I hear her talk But I don't know what she said So he wrote this in 1979 as a reaction to the Three Mile Islands. Oh, interesting. And then they laid it down and it was incredible. And they were like, the producer said, this is so topical. Put it out as a single right now. And Spring seemed like bristled at that, such a crass commercial suggestion.

Right. And then just threw it away. God, it's so crazy. The shit. Yeah. Put it on a B side eventually. But,

um, yeah, it's a, uh, protest song. I think he also wasn't very comfortable being political yet. Yeah. Um,

it's funny if you watch the dv or the blu-ray or the dvd that's included in this of the live show it's i think two days after the 1980 election where reagan gets elected and he wants to say something and he he kind of almost timidly says like uh so what happened a couple of days ago is pretty scary. Uh, anyway, uh, hope,

uh, you're all doing okay. Interesting. And, and he expects to get booed or something like that, but people are like cheering. And I think that gives him like the courage to kind of talk a little more politically down the line.

That, uh, no nukes concert. That's like a legendary like some people think it's like that was river era wasn't it uh the no nukes i feel like it was like 81 somewhere around there yeah i have them it's really incredible i mean yeah he finally officially released them yeah um yeah recently i mean yeah like a year ago or so um listen to the top 10 albums when the river was out.

Number one was the river. Number two is Barbra Streisand guilty. Three, Pat Benatar, Crimes of Passion. I had that album. Did you have that? Yeah, I have that. Yeah. Doobie Brothers, Queen the Game, The Police, Zenyatta Mandata, ACDC, Back in Black, Talking

Heads Remain in Light. Like music was amazing. Especially that Barbra Streisand album. With the Bee Gees. And Kenny Rogers' greatest hits. Greatest hits for that time, too, because he still had huge ones to come. The Gambler.

Was The Gambler not out yet? No, I think that was around. Jesus Christ. All right, let's hear a couple more. This is Restless Nights. Little Steven hates that he threw this away. Now outside the streets are gray And the childhood games we played Have faded away And my baby, she has restless nights

She has restless nights My baby Little Steven's like, here I am trying to write songs and every one of them sucks. And then you're throwing away stuff that people could make careers out of.

That's crazy. This Ties the Vine book that you were keeping from me all this time is really cool. I didn't want you to read it because I knew you'd like it too much and then you'd be too jealous.

I want to get this. I have it. Yeah, you should get it. Here's another one. This is where the bands are. This is one that Springsteen kind of is like, yeah, this should have made the record.

He was thinking of swapping it for my favorite out in the streets, which is like madness to me, but let's go out there. I hear the guitars ringing out there Ringing out down New New Street the streets, which is like madness to me, but, um, let's go out. I can do this, man. What do you think? It's awesome. I could do this, man. I'd sit around the house doing it all day.

Be like, hey, Edibles, get in here. We're singing this. It's crazy how good it is. I wanted one more because we mentioned Dave Edmonds. And this is one that Dave Edmonds, I guess, came by the studio. Oh, that's cool. And he was like, you got anything for me, Bruce? And so Bruce gives him this song, which I always knew was a Dave Edmonds song and was surprised to learn that Springsteen wrote it.

But they finally put out their version of it on this deluxe. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. At 16, she quit high school to make her fortune in the promised land. She got a job behind the counter in an all-night hamburger stand. She wrote faithfully on to mama.

Now, mama, don't you worry none. From small things, mama, big't you worry none From small things, mama Big things one day come It was late one Friday He pulled in out of the dark Yeah, he basically was like, you got any songs for me, Bruce? And Bruce threw on a Fender

and just played him this. And he was like, you like it? He goes, yeah. He goes, okay, you can have it yeah i like it yeah i think i'll be all right with this um yeah anyway just incredible uh this is one of the best i think box sets i mean this is as good as the album yeah there's so much stuff there are 22 songs on the disc four that they cut out and then you know some of the ones on disc three that we played from the single disc version there's like plus there's one that's just

on tracks i think so there's in the neighborhood of 30 songs that he cut from a 20 song album just incredible stuff what uh how's the documentary that ties the bind did you watch it's good i talked about a little last week of it's not as i don't think they were allowing people in the studio so or the stude because they were a little too protective of what people would say when the snack platter came around i think they didn't want people to see the snacks in the stude yeah so it's a little more like springsteen sitting there being interviewed while he's playing guitar you know how like when you saw him on broadway he's kind of telling these stories while he's playing in the background that's that's his interview style is he's got a guitar on all the time all the interviews

i've seen him people saw this documentary and they were like broadway well i also think it's terrible for editors like i think he's an editor's worst nightmare because he's constantly playing. You can't chop up what he's saying at all because suddenly the music won't fit. That's his trick. It's the oldest trick in the book. Play a guitar while you're talking. If you don't want to be misquoted, play a guitar. That's why every politician plays a guitar while they give speeches.

Exactly. Well, that's The River. I mean, it's a huge, huge record, and it took us two episodes to even talk about it. Yeah. And next week, we're going to be delving into the first record of Bruce Springsteen that Adam ever bought. And the first one to really be a reflection of the 80s, I think. Because this came out in the 80s, obviously, but-

81. 80. We've said it 8 million times. Well, the tour was 81, which is what I always refer to everything as whenever the tour happened. Whenever someone toured. Yeah. So that's going to be next week, but Adam uh, Adam and I, I had a good time. Did you have a good time?

I think this is the best couple of hours of my life. I think it is too. Yeah. And did you get, did you get word on what the wedding song was? Uh, did you, uh, talk to Naomi at all? Um, uh, I haven't heard back yet. Oh, okay. Hmm.

But I'll, uh... Let us know. I will. All right, that's going to do it for us. When we see you next time, we're going to be talking about Adam's first Springsteen album. Well, that's a little tease for next episode, but let's end this one.

That's going to do it for us. We'll see you next time. And until then, we hope that you have found what you're looking for. Bye.