U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Adam Scott Aukerman go track-by-track through Springsteen's sophomore album The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle. They also write their list of demands for Bruce, attempt to call the U.S. Naval Observatory's time-by-phone service, and go through the history of compact discs. Plus, they debut an episode of their new podcast, "Hip Hip Hooray!"

from born in the usa to death to my hometown this is you spring and springsteen on my bean the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Bruce. This is good rock and roll. Music? Is it? I think so. There it is. That's good rock and roll. Listen to that. Hey! Welcome back, episode two.

This is the episode regarding the wild innocent and the e-street shuffle is is that the theme song that we used uh in the first episode yes it is interesting what is interesting about it um i find a lot of things interesting. Okay. Let's go down the list. Cats. Cats are interesting. I meant the movie.

Cats is interesting. Thank you for the correct tense. Is it tense? Are you tense? That's my doorbell, by the way. Just like it speaks. It speaks. I occasionally my wife doorbell, by the way. It speaks? It speaks.

Occasionally, my wife will come down to the office and put things in the room that I've never asked for. There was a plant back here that died within about one and one half years because I didn't care about it and never took care of it. Oh, it took a year and a half to die. It took about a year and a half to finally die. And I hope I take a year and a half to finally die and I hope I take a year and a half to finally die. I hope it's not sudden. What if it's one year and a half from right now? I think about that sometimes. I think, would I still do this show?

If you were dead? No, if I knew I was going to die in a year and a half, would I waste any time on any of this? I would do nothing but this show it was 24 hours straight that's right anyway i got a doorbell thing uh i guess i need it in case wait what does that have to do with kulak pudding she put she put the doorbell thing and and now in the middle of shows it just goes off and i don't know how to turn it off can i say something to it did she install it if you mean plugging it

in yeah yeah so it's just uh it's like a little uh a speaker and a video uh camera okay so hey google shut the fuck up no i think it's um well it's not sir, obviously, but doesn't Google have a name for their person? Does it? Not Alexa, because that... Hey, Alexa! No, that's Amazon. Hey, Google! I think it's just Hey, Google. Is it really? Hey, Google, turn off doorbell!

See, it won't talk to me. It's giving me the silent treatment. It may just silently be doing what you want. Oh, that's true! Like I often do. That's the only reason you're here. I really pressed you to do this show. I know you don't want to,

and you're here under duress. The audience can't see, obviously, because it's an audio program, but you are pointing a gun at me right now. That's right. And I kidnapped you, threw you in a van, put a hood over your face. You still have the hood over your face, by the way.

I prefer the hood. That's just for me. Because I think you're an uggo. And I enjoy taking naps. Oh, so you're going to take a nap in the middle of the show? Oh my god, he's out. Adam, I think you say you enjoy taking naps. I think

you're just narcoleptic. Oh, I'm not narcoleptic. He's also not sleeping right now. He's just eating a cookie. That was delicious. Well, we'll never find out what else you think is interesting other than cats and cats. That's it. And the fact that that song was used last episode.

That song is our theme song cats and cats cats plural and cats singular are the only things that are interesting well welcome to the show uh this is of course you spring in springsteen on my bean and uh a subsidiary of you talking you to me and uh oh it's a subsidiary now yep the corporate structure it's like sprite is to coke when did coke buy sprite or topo chico is to coke does coke own topo chico you're a topo chico guy you've had one every episode we've recorded and only one uh what am i supposed to bring in? Four? A four pack? Four pack of Cheeks. Hey guys,

I got a four pack of Chico's. What? You enjoy them. Topo Chico's. I do. I do. You should be sponsored by them. You know how like Tony Hawk,

he has, he's sponsored by shoe places and he gets free shoes and he's sponsored by skateboard places. He gets free skateboards. I'm going to, by the way, part of this is my fault. I'm going to turn it on and do not disturb right now on on my oops no you can just turn on do not disturb no not not the goo the google thing isn't uh

isn't uh connected the goo goo thing isn't connected to the to the doorbell to the no it's connected to the doorbell not to not to my uh mac system i am so confused yeah i know i get it um but um welcome to the show my name is scott ackerman i'm the host and uh i have uh my understudy here hey everybody should i ever miss an episode he's ready to step up and be the host and i'll be. And I'll be the co-host, I think. Yeah, we just switch places if you can't be here. If I can't be here. Adam Scott is here.

Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. Do you have any messages to any of your... I know that you don't necessarily speak to your family when you're at home. No. They have to listen to this show in order to hear what you have to say to them. Do you have any messages for

them? Yeah. Cut it out. Thank you. And sure, let's go. Okay, great. Yeah, so they'll know in that order? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those will apply. Those will apply, great. Do you remember the first person who,

I don't know who it was, but in an award show was like, oh oh and by the way to their kids go to bed go to bed yeah i know okay whoever the first one was great great bit we love it whoever the second one was that's a spanking but i feel like even the first time it probably felt like kind of hacky you think it felt hacky the first no i think everyone loved it the first time remember when uh sally field said you like me you really like me and everyone was like we do yeah and then other people started saying it and it's like shut the fuck up well yeah but telling your kids to go to bed through an award speech i feel like i feel like it's one of those

things that probably happens and you have no control over it. Like if you're accepting an award, they're either in bed or they're not in bed. Yeah. And if you have kids at home, you are worried about them going to bed. So you have no control over actually saying it. Even though it's hacky, it just happens. I don't think anyone has control. Why are they at home by themselves?

With the ability to choose when they go to bed watching awards shows just rolling through award shows all right well i watched the tape of the emmys from last september all right let's watch the academy awards now there's nothing that uh small children love more than award shows about things they don't care lists of names of people that even adults don't care about. That's exactly right. If you ever win an award, and we've talked about what you're going to do if you win an Oscar.

That's right. That's right. You're going to announce, and this is Oscar only. Yeah. You're going to thank everyone you need to thank and then end the speech by saying, I'm going to shove this up my butt.

And you've made that promise on this podcast. When I, for all the Severance stuff, I got, oh, this isn't promoting the show. No, no, you're not. We're allowed to. We're talking about Bruce Springsteen. We're allowed to acknowledge its existence. Yeah. I remember when all that stuff was happening, I got lots of social media reminders of what I should do.

But it was Oscar only. It's Oscar only. That's what people don't know. People were like, oh, yeah, it's was Oscar only. It's Oscar only. That's what people don't know. People were like, oh yeah, it's for Emmys. It's not. No. Emmy, an Emmy would be impossible to put in your butt. Yeah.

I have two right up there that you've been eyeing jealously. Up your butt? Oh, have you been eyeing my butt jealously or just these Emmys that are up there? Both. They're both magnificent. Envy is the green eyed monster. Do you agree? Oh yes.

As the immortal bard once said, there's no quote. Shall I enjoy Morris? Adam. Yeah. You were obviously in the middle of a strike which is why we're uh afforded the luxury of doing this show the luxury the it's it's like a vacation it really is it's like laying out on a deck it's like it's like i always after each one of these episodes i i go and i look out and

man i have a sundan yeah you, even though we've been inside here. No, I, I feel, you know, that feeling where you feel tan. Yeah. That's the feeling.

Like, like your, your whole body kind of stings. Like you just been stung by a hive of bees. Yeah. Like a thousand bees just, just kissed my skin. Yeah.

That, I think it would be better. Honestly, like bees, yes. They're endangered. We need them. We need them for the ecosystem. Leave them alone. Leave them alone. But bees,

couldn't you just kiss us instead of stinging us? Just give us some smooches. Just give me some big, wet Frenchies. All the bees out there, give give us both some big wet frenchies this is all we want hey bees let's fucking make out and if it leads to anything else that's all right too it's up to you i'm up for it but come on but come on bees let's get to first base i think the world would be a better place quite honestly i think that 100 percent i think they say god doesn't make mistakes that's the one i think he made that bees can't smooch us

i've been saying that my whole life so you were say you're just outside in a park you're having a picnic yeah a bee flies by he just comes over to you it's like right in front of your family and you're like all right i guess we're doing this the kids are like dad what is what are you doing it's like with a B. Ah, boy. Well, we're, we're, this is two,

we're two episodes deep. Well, I mean, we're not even deep into this one, but so we're one and one eighth of an episode deep on the Springsteen part. We're already one eighth done with this one. Can you imagine?

Only seven more of these to go. We should throw some sort of party or at least acknowledge it in some way. Sure. Three hip hip hoorays perhaps? Yes. Oh, we never even got to one of the hip hip hoorays. Yeah, man. We ran out of

time. I think that just acknowledging that that's where we are in the program ended up being enough. That was enough. I felt like Hip Hip Hooray, especially three times. Is this an episode of Hip Hip Hooray? I think it is.

Hey, everyone. Welcome to Hip Hip Hooray. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're just, honestly, we're just trying to decide this episode, whether we have the time to say Hip Hip Hooray. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're just, honestly, we're just trying to decide this episode whether we have the time to say Hip Hip Hooray. Let me just check my watch real quick. It looks like we have time for 17 of them. All right, here we go.

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or else you'll be thrown in jail you for libel you will serve a long sentence can you be thrown in jail for libel i hope so oh yeah yeah i hope especially in massachusetts what's going on in massachusetts the libel laws are out of are they. Are they out of control, really? They are different in England. Isn't that interesting? Anytime you go to England, you can't whistle. You'll get struck with a libel lawsuit. Well, so now we're an episode and a quarter in. That eighth just flew by since the last one one we talked about can you believe it's

already been another eighth episode yeah amazing um but uh we should acknowledge it somehow somehow well i guess we just if you come up with any ideas let me know we'll do um but uh would it surprise you adam we released our first episode last week. Mm-hmm. And this is what I was expecting. Mm-hmm. I'm expecting episode goes up at midnight on, you know, whatever night it comes out. Mm-hmm. I'm expecting 1240 AM to get a phone call. Bring, bring, bring.

Hey, this is Bruce. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. I heard your episode and I heard what you want and I'm ready to go. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's what I expected.

I fully expected it. So 1240, it's like Christmas Eve to me. I'm up by the phone. 1240. I make sure the ringer is on so I don't miss it. Yeah. 12.40 goes by.

12.41 goes by. Are you kidding me? 12.42 goes by. Wait a second. 12.43, I get a phone call. Great. Not Bruce. What?

Are you serious? It's my aunt telling me my uncle died. I'm like, I'm waiting for Bruce. Yeah. Tell it to someone else. Come on. This can wait till morning. Yeah, put a pin in it, lady.

Yeah. And drop a pin. I'll figure out where you are. Yeah. Just make sure none of your hair pins fly out. Yeah. Oh, my God. These old ladies.

Wow. This just became a completely different podcast a great one though yes but anyway so then i'm like you know what it's obviously the middle of the night this is he's a morning guy he's always been a morning guy. He gets up, does a five-mile jog. Every morning. Every single morning. I'm going to get him before his jog while he's putting on his sweatpants. Got it. So that's probably. Yeah, he probably. His denim sweatpants.

That's right. He has denim sweatpants and a white t-shirt. Yep. And a ball cap. Yep. And so the next morning, I set the alarm. I get up at 5 a.m. because I'm not quite sure when he goes out for the run. Yeah, and he's probably on the East Coast.

Yeah. So that's what I meant. It's 5 a.m. his time. So I go to bed at 1 a.m. 2 a.m. 1 a.m. and then I wake up at 2 a.m. Okay. Okay.

Well, yeah, but this is an important call. An important call that I want to make sure I get. Sure. Nothing.m. 1 a.m. and then I wake up at 2 a.m. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, but this is an important call. An important call that I want to make sure I get. Sure. Nothing. Nada. Are you kidding me? Zilcho. Maybe his phone's battery broke.

That's what I thought. That's what I thought, is that he snapped it in half when he was listening to the episode. Yeah, he needs to go to the genius. And you know how long it can take to get an appointment there. So I figure like, okay, I'll wait another hour. Okay. Let him go to the Genius Bar that opens at 5 a.m. Right.

On the East Coast. Yes. 5 a.m. on the West Coast, which is 8 a.m. 8 a.m. Right. So I give him another hour and I know what you're thinking. Oh, he called then. Right.

How was it? How was the conversation? He didn't call, Adam. What? Can you believe it? conversation he didn't call adam what can you believe it and it has been now a full calendar week and i've got no call are you sure he has the right number because maybe he's calling scott bacherman oh okay let me give it to him okay bruce you probably have the wrong number yeah it's zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero okay well now he has it now he has it okay so then so now now i'm gonna wait another 60 seconds

and i'll probably call okay has it been 60 seconds i think think so. Okay. Well, here's the thing, Scott, is that this is recorded. So this will come out at midnight when it comes out. Right. So 1240, the night this comes out, that's when he's going to call your phone. Man, I haven't slept all week. You got to get some sleep. I got that one hour. Yeah.

That's not enough because you've been waiting for him to call. I've been waiting for it. Not that one hour. Yeah, that's not enough. Because you've been waiting for him to call. I've been waiting for it. Bruce, this is taking a toll on my physical health. Scott's got to get some sleep, bro. But look, as you know, Bruce, for every day you don't call, our demands go up.

Yeah. I'm not sure where we left it last time, but we need, first of all, we need to- I was going to ask what our duties- We need obviously free tickets to, look, our demands last time were we want free tickets to one of your shows. Now we want free tickets to two of your shows. Whoa. Okay. That's twice as many.

Yeah. 100% as many. Do you think we're asking for too much i think so so how about one and a half shows yeah like like i'm sure you take a break in the middle of your show let us in after intermission escort us out oh oh you want to see the first half that's always the better half you're right oh okay or you know the second half is pretty cool too because then we get a free encore tell you what half of the first half half of the second second the the the first half of the first half and the second half of the second half yeah exactly so you he plays three hour shows so there's a good 90 minutes we can go watch monsters inc in the parking lot i love monsters inc but here's the thing we can still still watch it. I just, I enjoy the big finish.

Let's turn that into a drop. Adam Scott today had a few words about sex. So if we can have the second half of the second half first yeah and then that's our first half of the first that's our demand bruce you got to play the second half of your second half of your show first and then you can play the middle in whatever order you want yeah we don't care we're gonna be watching monsters inc we don't care. We're going to be watching Monsters, Inc. We don't care. We don't give a shit.

Don't give two shits. Yes. But then we want to see your first half of your first half. But that needs to be how the show ends. Yes, that needs to be how the show ends. And by the way, it needs to be to the second. So if you're in the middle of a song stop stop and then walk off stage yep so that's what we want that's what we

want so do you think how would he explain that to the audience what's going on i don't think he needs to explain it to the audience as much as he needs to explain it to the e street band oh yeah they've got to know what's going on. They have to know. They're listening as well. Because they're going to start, if they're doing the second half of the second half first, that means the show is going to have to start

in the middle of some other song. Yeah, probably in the middle of, what's one of his songs? The River? Rumblefish? Rumblefish? Did he do the Rumble Fish soundtrack? Yeah.

I think Stuart Copeland may have done that one. Maybe The Rising. All Cops Are Bastards. The Rising. The Rising. Sure. That's a great example. Yeah.

So in the middle of The Rising, he's already saying, come on. And then he just starts it right in the middle. And he goes, up to The Rising. That's how the entire concert starts. He goes, up to the rise. That's how the entire concert starts. Everyone's like, what the fuck is going on? But the history band, they're clued in. Scott and Scott made some demands because I didn't get back to them because I had the wrong number and had to go to the genius bar.

And everyone goes, we understand. We get it. We get it we get it so look that that's just one example of a demand that goes up and and bruce it's going to continue the longer it takes for you to get a hold of us yeah pick up that phone we need like we fully the genius bar we fully expect episode three to be interview with bruce springsteen and probably a bonus, we'll tack on the full concert at the end of it. How long was that interview? I'm forgetting now.

Several hours. It's three hours if it's one-on-one. And only chit-chat. Yeah, only chit-chat. Only small talk. Small talk. But it's six hours if he wants to bring little Steven. Okay.

All right. but it's six hours if he wants to bring little stephen okay all right and it and the clock starts over anytime it it becomes not chit chat yeah so if little stephen is there though can we talk about uh music or is it still just chit chat it's we can talk about the sopranos that's fine okay but just cocktail conversation just yeah like oh hey what's going where where do you live now have you guys taken any trips this summer stuff like that yeah stuff like that he's like yeah i took a trip with the east street band all across europe and you're like nope clock starts over too bad clock starts over so that's our that's that's how long the interview is now i'm gonna i feel like we asked for too much with the concert so i'm gonna keep the interview is now. I'm going to... I feel like we asked for too much with the concert. So I'm going to keep the interview to the previously discussed parameters.

Okay. All right. I think the concert was enough of an increase in demand. Yeah. I think... And extremely confusing. Not for the audience, because they all scream, we get it. We get it.

We get it. And not for the E3 band because he he does extensive rehearsals with them oh yeah to make sure that they all come in at the exact same midpoint of the rising those guys they can turn on a dime and you could set your watch to them they're so good i have set my watch to uh to max weinberg at one point me too every morning i set my watch to max weinberg that's right he does that he has a service where he calls you. Yeah. He calls you.

That's the other thing. He calls me. It's not like you calling the time. Remember when you used to call the time? It would be like- The time is- At the tone, the time will be 303 and eight seconds. I wonder if that still exists.

We could try to call it. Do you want to call it? What was that number? It was whatever area code you're in and then something, something, something, one, two, one, two. Or actually, the last four numbers you could do in any order. I used to do one, two, one, two. Let's see if it exists. Call the time.

I wonder if it's that same little old lady. Despite heavy smartphone use, you can still call for the time i wonder if it's that same little despite heavy smartphone use you can still call for the time it says what is the number what what if it's max weinberg that's what i'm saying is i've heard it's him and he's like hey this is max weinberg listen to this uh here google despite heavy smartphone use i just Does it have the number? Let me see here. There's a whole fucking article about it. 202.

Hold on. Here we go. Ready? Wait, what was that number you said? 262. 262? No, sorry. 202. 202 762 14 14 01 oh sorry 61 01 14 01 that's Fucking insult. All right, here we go.

It's fucking busy. Jesus. Fuck this. Why would anyone do this? No. No. Sounds like someone else is doing it right now. Because we broadcast it on the air,

it gets so busy, everyone's calling. When was the last time you heard a busy signal, the way i know you but how how many this how many how many lines can you juggle at the same time if like two people are calling at the same time um yeah you mean call waiting when does that kick in no i mean i know it kicks in the second person who calls you're asking if there's 19 people calling. Yeah, could 19 people call at the same time? And all get call waiting? Yeah.

And you're just like, sorry, I got another call. Sorry, I got another call. Sorry. Like you're one of the switchboard operators in John Wick. Sorry. That's what they do in John Wick. They all have 40s clothes and tattoos and they're like. That's one of the signature moves of those films.

Sorry. All right. Today we're going to be covering Bruce Springsteen's second album, The Wild, The Innocent, and The E Street Shuffle. Yeah. Are you ready for it? We need to take a break, but let's come back and we'll talk about the record. What do you think? Yeah, let's do it. All right. We We need to take a break. But let's come back and we'll talk about the record. What do you think?

Yeah, let's do it. All right, we're going to take a break. We will be right back in just a jiff with more you springing Springsteen on my bean after this. The times are tough now Just getting tougher This whole world is rough Just getting rough Bruce Springsteen singing the musical question

Fade Away? Fade Away? Fade Away? Um, Adam? Yeah? the musical question fade away fade away fade away um adam yeah we're now i would say a third of the way through the episode whoa already it just goes it zips by if i can uh if i can throw that in that's what they say you know i i i don't know if you knew this but i just had uh a baby huh congrats if people only listen to this episode not comedy bang bang or freedom or any of my other shows maybe they don't know that i just had a baby and they always say like oh the time goes so fast yeah no it fucking does well when they're babies it goes very very slow oh my god it's like prison yeah yeah it's it feels like uh the first

year kind of feels like three years and then the second feels like six second feels like six third feels like 17 wow shit fourth feels like five minutes fourth feels like 17. Wow. Shit. Fourth. Feels like five minutes. Fourth feels like five minutes. Five minutes. Oh, I got to savor all that. Fourth year. Five minutes.

Fifth. Feels like, like a year and a half. Hmm. Sixth. Uh, I feel like now we're just doing the, uh,

the bit from The Jerk. Oh, yeah. I think I obviously saw that when I was like 10. And then I feel like I saw it again in between 10 and 22. But then I forgot most of it. And then I remember I was seeing this woman. Whoa. And we both got super high and put that on. And that conversation, I was like, this is not happening.

I can't believe this is happening. And I had to rewatch it the next day to be like, was I just imagining that this was actually in a movie? That it was in it. That was the bit. And I was like, ah, this is the same thing happened to me in i watched the evil dead by myself yeah and the first one and um when the woman gets attacked by a tree yeah and the branch like slithers up and and essentially uh uh does something to her yeah i was like i can't I can't, that can't be what, and so I rewound it. That wasn't in a movie.

I rewound it 10 times and it was like, I'm too high. I'm too high. I'm not seeing this. I'm not seeing this. You know what? I watched it the next day.

Yeah, it was happening. I don't think I've ever seen the first Evil Dead. I think I've, I just always started with two. Number one is, wait,

is this, this is an episode of I Love Films. I think it is. Hey everyone, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're a couple of guys, look, if you haven't heard this show, if this is your first episode, and every episode is someone's first episode.

I guess it is, but if you haven't heard this show, I feel for you that means you don't love films i pity you you don't love films like we do because we're just two guys who love films love film films like give us an example of a film that you love a little little movie i like to call citizen cane aka aka the guy who missed his sled. Rosebud, of course. Of course. Was Rosebud? That wasn't it. That was the sled.

Rosebud was his wife, wasn't it? I've never seen it. What about The Godfather? Ah, yes. How about that? That's a film. That is a film, a.k.a. the guy who missed his mob. That's a film. That is a film, AKA the guy who missed his mob.

That's very funny. He goes off to the army. Yeah, yeah, no. He's like, I miss my mob. I want to come back to mobby. I miss my mobby. Anyway, we're talking about the evil dead. Yeah.

And I... anyway we're talking about the evil dead yeah and uh i uh i i saw evil dead 2 now usually i'm not much for sequels let me let me say that i think sequels are trash usually oh i mean it's like rocky 2 please rocky 1 sure i'll give you that like in a pinch i'll give you rocky one yeah you know in a squeeze i'll give you rocky three sure but neither a pinch nor squeeze i'll just take rocky thank you very much but but having a pinch and a squeeze and you still ask for Rocky 2? Come on. What is going on? Get out of here with this. Anyway, so sequels, usually we hate them. Yeah, but.

But then I saw a little movie called The Meg 2. Oh, yeah. See, that's a film. That's a film. And I was like, wait, a film. That's a film. And I was like, wait, sequels can be good? Yeah. Meg 2 kind of redefined. Some people say Godfather 2 is better than the first one.

I think that's crazy. That's crazy because the first one is so good. Yeah. And the second one is like, it's all about Cuba and all this boring shit. I know. But in a pinch and a squeeze, I'll take Godfather 2. Sure, sure. Give me one pinch, even half a squeeze, I'll take Godfather 2. Give me two pinches.

And no squeezes? And no squeezes. And I'll take Godfather 2, but Meg 2. Give me four squeezes? Okay, four squeezes. And a half a pinch sure yeah okay you got it no listen that's fine you got a deal uh but the meg 2 led me to to realize that sequels can be good and so then i went back and i watched evil dead 2 yeah and i

was like what have i been missing yeah now. Now I only watch sequels. Yeah. I never. If there's not a two or a three or a four in this movie. Forget it. That's why I watched District 9. And then I fucking leave. I leave that movie going like, okay, Districts 1 through 8 are probably pretty cool. Where are those movies? It wasn't a sequel.

I felt hoodwinked. Oh, that's fucking bullshit, bro. Yeah. And then I watched the the hive yeah and i thought it was the ivy was a four oh geez and i they're they constantly trick you this way i gotta tell you i went to see the movie seven no there's no one you mean says seven mean says seven N. Says seven. Says seven N. Says seven N.

Yeah, there's no one through six. No. And movies are constantly trying to trick you with this. And it's like. They're just trying to get butts in the seats. That's all that matters. Yeah, because you know what? If a seat doesn't have a butt in it, what's it made for?

Hey, if a tree falls in the forest and there's no butt in the seat do you hear the farts bye bye boy good app haven't heard from those guys in a long time they covered a lot of ground yeah short amount of time that was really good um so we're talking about this album the wild the innocent street shuffle can i can i ask you adam yeah when did you first hear of the wild the innocent the east street shuffle um well i think everyone has that day that they remember in their lives it's like where were you you know for some people it's coming up they have it circled on their calendar yeah i'm like oh yeah i'm gonna hear about the wildness in it yeah

street shuffle on march 7th 2027 exactly but i heard about it a long time ago really yes what did you hear about it i heard that it existed primarily it was a physical thing that occupied space in the world exactly it was an object uh where some human beings took the time to record uh instruments vocals i heard it existed and i was like oh so there's one of these things and then they were like oh no we made a bunch several copies yeah so people could purchase them and bring them home and then listen to them. Mm-hmm. Records. Sure.

Tapes. At the time, eight tracks. Eight track tapes. Cassette tapes. Sure. And then later on, compact discs. You know, you buy one. Sure, down the line.

Down the line, yeah. We're talking 15 years later. Yeah, at least. Let me look at, when was the first compact disc of the wild? I got my first compact disc player, I think, in 1988. I got mine. And I remember I was the first one of anyone I knew that had one. I got mine in December of 1987.

I won a contest when I worked at the Los Angeles Times, cold calling people. I remember this. I've talked to you about it in the first CD I ever bought. Do you remember that? No. A Very Special Christmas. Oh, the one with the Keith Haring?

Yeah, the first one, yeah. And that was a good, and I turned on that Sting song, Gabriel's Trumpet, is that what it's called? And then you too had a song on there? But I turned on the Sting one and it goes back and forth, and the speaker's like, and it was the clearest sound I'd ever heard.

And I was like, this is what I want to do with my life, is listen to this song over and over and over. And I listened to it maybe three times. I was like, all right, I'm done. Yeah, it did. I mean, it sounded way better than tapes tapes which is what i was used to yeah all these people who love vinyl i get it yeah but give me a sweet that sweet sweet metal do you uh listen to records do you have like a vinyl collection i'm sure we've already covered this by the way i i found the info what year do you think the first cd of the wild the innocent the

street shuffle came out probably like 1980 you think cd technology was it was around in 1980 it for sure was it just wasn't widespread popular yeah that's interesting because i because like it took so long for for cd for like old albums to finally catch it like you it would be like hey this is finally coming out on yeah like the beatles or whatever i would have assumed 87 88 89 yeah 84 huh okay so that's that's the split in the diff of what we both thought that's that's earlier than i thought and later than what you thought but remember like the billy joel album 52nd street was included in every sony compact disc player really yeah is that how you first heard of billy joel but that was that was like

in the late 70s or let me let me look that up because uh uh you can go to Discogs.com and it has all this information. 214 versions of 52nd Street have come out. What? Yeah. It counts everything. The test pressings, the eight tracks, everything. I'm looking for the first CD version. version and the very first CD version, Adam, came out on a little year called... I saw it and found it.

That's why I'm vamping. How am I doing in the vamping department, by the way? Oh, great. Way better than I'm doing. Yeah, because you're just on your phone. Well, I'm trying to see about the... Okay. I got it.

1982. Japan. Japan version. your phone well i'm trying to see about that okay i got it 1982 japan 82 japan version gold face pre-emphasis 1983 was the repress uh from cbs sony in japan and then the u.s first uscd 1983 oh look at this how bill How Billy Joel's 52nd Street became the first compact disc released. Released? October 1st, 1982 in Japan, like you said. It was the very first CD ever to come out. That's what it says. The album came out in 78,

but the CD came out in 82. You're a speed reader, right? So can you just read really fast and tell us what it says? Yeah, I just read the entire internet. The entire internet? I didn't need you to do that. What do you want to know? What's porn?

Well, I could explain in several different ways. You know it when you see it. It wasn't the first CD. It was just the first CD released. I don't know. Of his or something. Why or how. Somewhere I heard that it was included in Sony CD players.

I bet it was. Maybe that's bullshit. They're keeping it close to the vest about that because they're embarrassed now. Oh, it's so embarrassing. So when did you hear this album for the first time i think i heard it when i started uh kind of getting into and exploring bruce springsteen which was after i got into nebraska when i was in high school we covered this last yeah yeah i started like going back into the back catalog and right and this is was did you hear this was an important one or no it was i think born to run and you know everything after was kind of you know

hoisted up as being the most important but i did go back and didn't really connect with this album back then it wasn't until i re-approached springsteen in like the very early 2000s that i really kind of listened to this album okay very similar to my story i think let's hear it um let's see i bought it i listened to it yes um i i think i i must have gone backwards right around the same time 2000 or whatever and i bought all of them all of the early ones i think this is one that i i'm sure i got it used somewhere yeah for like three dollars and um but uh i liked it i i'd never really because i only really knew about springsteen

starting with born in the usa i kind of knew him as like oh he sings these three four minute pop songs yeah um i never really knew about his like like for instance i was more of a meatloaf fan before i was a bruce springsteen fan right and so meatloaf spat out of hell record famously uses the east street band as the backing band right i didn't didn't even know that. You didn't know that? No. Okay. Or most of the E Street band, right? That's crazy. And so Meatloaf, like Jim Steinman, who wrote all those Meatloaf songs that we all love, he's like kind of doing the same thing of like

all of his songs are like nine minutes long and they're in three parts and stuff like that. You know, Paradise by the Dashboard Light is a great example of it. And so I knew those songs and i really love that style of like these epic sweeping songs i never knew that springsteen did those kind of things yeah and then you find out later like oh jim steinman is kind of like doing what springsteen did on these early records and his albums have like seven songs because they're so they're all so long yeah this is a long well let's go through some stats uh the while the innocent in the east street shuffle released

november 5 1973 wow although i think there are there's some confusion about that date um because it's on his official website i think it it says a different date. That's earlier. Oh, really? They were recording it at that time, so it couldn't be possible. But I believe there's a little confusion about it because, Adam, the record was released with little to no fanfare. No album release party. Because his first album was not a huge didn't sell all that well and clive davis who signed him left the company before this was released right i just watched that clive davis

documentary which one live with an exclamation point that's right that's the one um and i remember this clive time it was a heartbreaking time for mr davis why because he left the company that he created or got edged out pushed out and then went and started his own company his own thing and and of course then gave kelly clarkson a hard time that's there are only two points of interest according to scott ackerman um you'll never forgive him for that nope so yeah this album came out and and that's why the release date is sort of hard to pinpoint from what i understand um uh is because it just you know just kind of came out under the radar uh-huh um it is seven songs four on the first side three

on the second side and yet it is longer than his first record. It is 46 minutes and 47 seconds. Yeah. These are some long songs. These are some long ass songs. Who do we have? We have the E Street Band hasn't totally coalesced into the classic version yet. But we have Clarence Clemons is there.

Have we talked about Clarence on this show yet? No, we haven't. The big boy. Oh, man. Bob's big boy. He is a big, incredible man. How about that? He plays tenor saxophone,

does a little backing vox. Yeah, he sings. He sings. He sings. He sings and blows that horn. You would think that he'd be too busy blowing the horn to sing. Nope.

He puts it aside sometimes. You can do both of those things at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Just use two different sides of your mouth. That's all you gotta do. Danny Federici, you have on

organ, second piano accordion very famously in some of these songs and then uh backing vocals um then you have this guy gary talent which by the way you can't just use the stage name of talent and go like oh i'm so talented yeah that's a pretty ballsy move now wait did gary talent stay with the band uh he is the only original member besides springsteen who stayed the entire time yeah he he's still he's still there it looks like yep he's still there can you imagine he's a long time a long time um david sanchez i hope i'm saying that right david sanchez he was an early member of the street band and he's on the first three records but then he comes back in the 90s and then uh even in the 20 2010s in 2019 he's back amazing and then you got mad dog the mad dog mad dog vinnie lopez he's on drums

and mad dog is uh he played in steel mill which we talked about last time. And he's only on the first two of the Bruce Springsteen records. I don't know what ever happened. So Max Weinberg comes in at Born to Run then. Yeah, Max Weinberg's late. And by the way, little Steven, we've talked about him. He's still not there. They know each other. But isn't he on Born to Run?

We're not talking about Born to Run. I'm so sorry. I realize that now. We need to stick to chit chat. We're talking about the Wild, the Innocent, and the East Street Shuffle. And that's who we have. It's produced by... Who produces this shit?

Oh, Micah Pell. We've talked, Micah Pell. We've talked about Micah Pell. He was Springsteen's manager. And Jim Kretikos. Was Kretikos on the last record? I feel like I've said the word Kretikos before. Is he an engineer or a... Well, he's definitely one of the producers and uh did he do

the last one where the hell are there's all the production credits what the fuck are all these production credits that were so well just as my capella and jim credit goes yeah anyway jim kretikos who knows what your fucking deal is but oh yeah it's the same two dudes same okay greetings from asbury park okay great um of course you got richard blackwell on percussion albany al telon yeah those guys you know he's on baritone sax, of course. Suki Lav does the choir vocals, which is... Suki's in there. Suki's in there. She is an Israeli violinist,

and she played for about six months in the E Street Band, played the violin. And, you know, David Garr, he's doing all the photography. Wow, they got David Garr to get in there and take those pics. Which basically is like,

the front cover is bruce springsteen and i read this he just ate three jelly beans and that's why his fingers are up by his yeah by his lips he's trying to keep them in because uh because jelly a little 1973 jelly beans were huge yeah they. They were like, uh, bigger than gumballs or gobstoppers. They were egg sized. Yeah. So he's like, Oh man, these jelly beans, I took too many of them in. Gotta keep these jelly beans in my mouth.

So that's why he has his fingers by his mouth. So, and then, uh, of course, David Gar is like, this is picture time. Gotta snap some,

some of these pickies. So that's all the, that's all the stats. Yeah. That's what we got. And this is his second album, by the way. Singles, we'll talk about when they come up. So that's the stats. Oh, did I say when it came out?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1973. End of 1973. So is Richard Nixon still in office at this point? Singles are weird. You're weird. Thank you. Why be normal?

Why be normal? I had a friend in high school who wore that pin every day. I knew people who had that pin. Yeah, so Richard- Or went normal with an anti-sign through pen. Yeah, so Richard... Or with normal with an anti sign through it. Yeah, boy. When did Richard Nixon leave office? 1973.

1973. What day, though? I think it was in... No, 74. He did? Yeah. Yeah, idiot. April 22, 1994 is when he died so he died 20 years after he left office

so he just he died of shame it takes 20 years to die of shame yeah it's a slow mover office as president on august 9 of 1974 so deep in 74 i was a year and a half old and you remember i was pushing him out yeah it's like get the fuck out hey tricky dick yeah and then he turned around and did the uh-huh the victory sign i was like fuck you uh-huh the victory sign i was like fuck you hey tricky dick don't trip on your dick on your way out the fucking door i get it um so that's all the stats adam so we got to take a break yeah when we come back we're gonna listen to these songs and we're gonna we're gonna talk about what we think about them how's that sound i think that's a great idea all right so we're gonna do that we're to take a break. This, of course, is a little podcast

called You Springin' Springsteen on My Bean. We'll be right back. And you We're back. You spring in Springsteen on my bean. That's a song by the musical artists known as Bruce Springsteen, who happens to be the person that we're covering on this particular podcast.

And Adam, we're back with The Wild, The Innocent, and The E Street Shuffle. And you ready to do this? You ready to go track by track? Now, these are, for the most part part these are long songs with multi-part multi-parts so and we're only really able to play like a minute of these things maybe we can skip around sometimes to some of the other parts but um you know just hearing the beginning of these sometimes they have long intros too that and the song doesn't even kick in so it's essentially it's a more experimental album that has only seven tracks and they

all take a long time to listen to i think the shortest one is this first one i believe which is only four and a half minutes um and then there's one that's 447 but everything else is over five and usually over seven and there's one that that uh closes the album out at 10 minutes so um definitely if you only know bruce springsteen from his more recent stuff it's it's a little bit different and it was this kind of a trend for lack of a better word at the time just to have these big expansive songs, or was he kind of leading the pack? Bye-bye, American Pie. Yeah, so that's a longie. That's one of the long ones.

That's a long thinnie. A long one and a thin one. It's a mile wide and an inch deep. Yeah, I guess it was. I don't know. I mean, it's not like, certainly a little bit before real prog rock, or maybe it's not that this is at all, but it's just kind of the big epic song.

Prog rock started in the late 60s, and bands like Yes were doing these long 10-minute, 14-minute songs sometimes. Sometimes a band like Yes or some of these other prog bands would do like an entire side of the record would be one song you know what i mean and then the the next side would be more shorties yeah shorties and thickies short short and thick but um but these are not i mean these are just long rock and roll songs yes well that that's the other thing is is we talked in the last episode that springsteen came in and everyone expected him to be a Dylan type that did folk music by himself and he was like, no my buddies are on this

and you can't do jack shit about it. And they were like, okay, alright, alright, put the gun down. He's got his buddies on this. This has none of those acoustic songs. He's essentially said, he's inching closer to his style, I think. Yeah. Because he's like, okay, Iing closer to his style i think yeah because he's like

okay i'm gonna have the e street band now on every song instead of half and half yeah um and so uh but but the songs are still not the springsteen style yet which is interesting so let's hear this first one this is the titular E Street Shuffle. And this is Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. Sparks fly on each street When the boy prophets walk it handsome and hot All the little girls' souls go weak When the man child gives them a double shot

And schoolboy pops pull out all the stops on a Friday night Up teenage chops and skintight pants So The E Street Shuffle. So, this is probably the most, this is the shortest song and also maybe the most easily digestible or understandable ones. Yeah, and it sounds the most like the previous album. Yeah, it's interesting because, okay, the typical E Street sound, he's inching closer to the r&b sort of van morrison-y yeah kind of like typical east street sound but i think this is the only song where they have that that particular organ sound going you know that's sort of like a stevie wonder yeah this is the only one that he's ever recorded with that sound it's like hey what if we did that you know he's still in the what if we did this phase?

I like it, though. I like it. It's just not his typical. Yeah, it's not. It doesn't sound like him, really. I mean, this is a meticulously rehearsed band. That's for sure. I mean, this is a meticulously rehearsed band, that's for sure.

They probably rehearsed this like two times before they recorded it. Which is meticulous. So I think it's a good opener in the sense of like setting a cool tone. I can't say that I ever like... I don't know that it amounts to all that much. I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, it's kind of fluffy.

Like it's not filled with meaning or whatever. It's a hook-filled song. He's just kind of going, Yay, we're all here. We're all dancing. We're all singing. And you enjoy it. It's a party song. You throw a party and just listen to this song like 19 times and everyone has to get the fuck out now to be fair they don't

have to go home no but you you can't you can stay wherever you can't stay here what is it go to your grandma's house you don't have to go home but you can't stay here yeah to your grandma's house? You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here? Yeah. That's the E Street Shuffle. The shortest song on the album,

but feels long. Do you think he was hoping that the dance, the E Street Shuffle, would catch on? Yeah. Do you know how to do it? Yeah, here, let me do it. Oh, my God.

Wow. I didn't realize it involved, like it had karate in it. I had to learn karate to do that dance. Are you okay? No. Are you okay? Because I did the karate chops on you. Yeah, right in my face.

Yeah. Whew. on you right in my face yeah whoo um i don't know that uh that song has even necessarily it's not it's not one that he he plays live all that much yeah i i wouldn't imagine i mean i know there's one song on this album that he plays live all the time but it's not this one it's not this one um but but i like it that's the thing like when i turn on it's a good it's a good mood setter yeah but it's like it's it's like would you go to a restaurant and just say like uh i'll have uh 14 amuse bouches please yeah no you'd be thrown out of the restaurant not to be fair they'd say you don't have to go home. But you just can't stay here and eat 14 amuse-bouches, you dick.

You fucking dick. That's the E Street Shuffle. Now, this next song, they do play this sometimes, don't they? Yeah, this is actually kind of considered a classic. This is one of the three or like considered classic springsteen songs yeah and this is called fourth of july asbury park parentheses sandy sandy and parentheses and this is do you think they're talking he's talking about sandy meisner the acting acting teacher i hope so hey thanks for all those lessons thanks for teaching me how to act

i'm not gonna use it until i get on broadway here we go 50 fucking years long intro sandy oh yeah Sandy. Oh yeah. Fireworks are hailing over Little Eden tonight. Forest and a light. And all those stony faces left stranded on this warm July. Down in time the circuits fall. I switch blade lovers so fast. So sharp. As the wizards play down on Pinball Way on the boardwalk way past dark.

And the boys from the casino dance with their shirts open like Latin lovers on the shore. With the shirts open like Latin lovers on the shore Chasing all them silly New York virgins by the score In Sandy, the world is hiding behind us This pier lights A carnival light Forever Oh love me tonight For I may never See you again

Hey Sandy girl. Not my baby. Okay. You know, I take that back. E Street Shuffle, he plays all the time. Does he play E Street Shuffle? He just played it in a show I saw back in April. What a weirdo.

I think that might have been a tour debut because he hasn't been playing it a lot on this tour. He hasn't? No, but... Yeah, that's one thing that's great about Springsteen when you see him live is he literally,

one show, whatever show you'll see, he'll play a song from one of his early albums that he hasn't played in decades, you know, and be like,

check this out. Yeah, there's always a time where the show stops and he takes requests from the audience. Yeah, one by one. Yeah, yeah. Every single person

plays one song for each person. That's why his shows are so long yep um this of course so it's interesting i feel like the first song the east street shuffle is like he's singing it as bruce springsteen he's like yeah hey everyone do the east street shuffle right yeah i'm bruce springsteen i'm singing to you then every other one of the songs, he kind of dips into character, right? And these are like character sketches. And this is like,

people call it the quintessential Jersey Shore song because it's very evocative of this young teenager on the Jersey Shore talking to a girl named Sandy. And you have Danny Federici on the accordion, which you would have been hearing as you're strolling down the boardwalk. What do we think? Yeah, I like this song.

It's long. It's not even, it's like five and a half minutes or so, but. I mean, that's kind of long. I mean, for a ballad, they're slower. Yeah, so it takes longer. Yeah, no, I like this song. You got the stoned out faces, the switchblade lovers, the greasers who tramp the streets

or get busted for sleeping on the beach all night. I love his poetry. I love the way he writes lyrics. He's basically just painting a picture almost like a guy named van gogh yeah would paint would paint pictures um how about you how do you feel i like that i mean i i definitely it is a ballad and it's a little more low-key and it's not the the sound yet of the east street band but i like it i think it's

it's cool and then you know the the accordion part danny federici um when he got sick uh with melanoma before he died he he came back to the band and that was the one song that he was like we gotta play we gotta play this because this is where this is like his favorite song to play. So he played that up until he passed away. And yeah, I like it. I think it's a cool song. It was covered. It actually, I believe, was one of the first Springsteen songs ever to be covered by another band. Oh, really?

The Hollies covered it. Let's hear a little bit of the Hollies version. This was before manfred man started covering all all of those records and took blind by the light to number one and everything did he ever cover this no this is uh uh air supply covered this as well that was the thing like back then springsteen was kind of like trying to paint paint these oral pictures and wasn't trying to hit the charts necessarily with them. But then he was kind of like, oh, maybe I have this career as a guy. I'll put out my versions of the songs

that are a little more complex and they're long and then a pop group will pick out the great melody and do a pop version of it. Sort of like what Dylan was doing originally. This is definitely a more sort of mass digestible version. Yeah. And the air supply version I haven't heard, but I would imagine that's even that was in the 80s, I believe. That's when they put it out. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Is that Joey Lawrence? Wow. wow he said whoa not wow oh joey lawrence if he said wow go wow so that is the first single from the record but it's weird how here it says the first single came out in a weird time like well there i think we'll get to that's that's the extra so that's one of the bonus songs that's not on the record is that what you're thinking of you mean this song the fourth of july i don't know i don't now i don't know what we're talking oh it came out in germany yeah like at least on wikipedia the singles singles came out in 75 and 79. No, so here's what happened. They didn't put out any singles in the US.

It just came out. It just came out. Weird. They put out a, in 75, they put out in Germany. Basically, what happened was when Born to Run suddenly catapulted into stardom, they went back and released. So they went back and released some of these as singles um but this this this is considered a single because it came out in germany a few years after they all got it um all right let's go to track three on side one this is a little song called kitty's back i think it's about Kitty Pride of the X-Men.

Yeah, it's gotta be. Thank you. Cool intro. A long-sized soul and kitty's black too. She left to marry sometime, cat. In the cold true. Now this kind of sounds like it's out of that movie you love so much, Cats. Yeah, well, I think it's interesting. The movie Cats. Yeah. But also Cats. Mm-hmm. much cats yeah well i think it's interesting the movie cats yeah but also cats this is not my favorite so okay so definitely jazzy jazzier than what you expect spring scene to do and this is like this is i

would say the last experimental spring scene album in terms of like he still doesn't know what's gonna hit and so he's like what if i did like a broadway show tune yeah now what's interesting is this tour that he's on right now he plays it almost every night kitty's back kitty's back yes he does and it's not my favorite song that i that i think he's been playing recently oh yeah he does how weird and he plays a bit because he's got a big horn section for this yeah yeah yeah he plays it with a big horn section and it's jazzy as hell. That said, the recorded version, I think, kind of rocks a little in some places. When we get to the instrumental section, though. I remember people going crazy when he started playing, because now I'm looking at the set list.

Right. And me just being like, wait, what's this song? Yeah. I just always... Because it's... Yeah, like, all this sounds technically cool but you could be watching harry connick jr for all right right it's definitely like you know 60s it definitely feels like prog in a way too

yeah now it does but this kind of rocks too i I don't know. I'm, I'm conflicted on it. You know, he's a kick-ass lead guitarist. And he can even play rhythm. Yeah. Like, listen to this. This sounds cool. Yeah. But it's a little like, you know, you're watching Draggnet and two cars are chasing each other yeah yeah i mean that sounds, but now we're back at doodly-doo. Definitely not my favorite, but I'll tell you, I haven't been to a Springsteen show this tour yet because he hasn't played LA and I haven't been able to leave. But I've listened to a bunch of them.

Yeah. And anytime it comes up, I'm a little like, this is eight minutes I could be spending listening to a different Springsteen song. But at the same time, I listened to this album again last night anytime it comes up i'm a little like this is eight minutes i could be spending yeah listening to a different spring scene song but at the same time i like this i listened to this album again last night i was like it kind of rocks too i don't know well i'm sure it's super fun to play they probably oh yeah playing it well because every other song you're playing is like you know you know it's like oh thank god we get to play something with like different time signatures that's right but yeah i don't know kitty's back kitty's back so now this is the last song on the

first side and um this is i would say probably the most experimental thing on the record yeah this is a song called wild billy's circus story and it's basically him telling a story about a kid watching them clean up after a circus so and they're shoveling elephant shit and all that kind of stuff for every time i heard a song about someone cleaning up after a circus. Excuse me. Is that you? Pardon me. Excuse me. Excuse me. The hired hand tightens his legs on the sword Swallowers bleed Circus towns on the short way

Well the runway lies ahead like a great false dawn Whoa, fat lady, big mama, missy Bambos Sits in her chair and yawns He's being a yawner. So this is like Springsteen basically like he's not even trying to do pop music, I feel like. He's just out here going like, I'm a storyteller. And I'm going to use the instrumentation to enhance this story I'm telling. Which is me telling the story about a kid watching everyone clean up after a circus and then being invited to join the circus and going off with them.

Which I think is based on something he did once. Like, he was watching them clean up, and he's romanticizing the life of, essentially what a musician does, of, like, going out on the road and being an artist. Yeah, did he actually do this? Like, watch people clean up a circus? Is that the idea?

I think he, the story I heard is that he went to the zoo and watched one elephant take a shit and was like, i want to write a song about this this is good but um but it is just it's basically like made for a person who's gonna go like oh my god this guy just paints a total picture with his words and yeah listen to this story and it's not it's not yet rock music yeah i do like the song though i think it's cool it sounds cool it sounds cool but it's like not he's not there yet he's not there yet but he's kind of like what if i did this yeah um so yeah wild billy's circus story um was one of the earlier songs that he wrote for this he'd been noodling around with

it i think it was called circus song for a long time and then uh finally like there are live versions of it where he has different different lyrics and finally he hits on this version i think so yeah i mean that's the end of side one so so basically beginning of side one you got this kind of upbeat party let's do the east street shuffle then a ballad where you're walking around the boardwalk in new jersey then you have this jazzy number kitty's back and then a circus number with a tuba it's weird it's like all over the place yeah so it's definitely the most experimental record so far but then side two is kind of more looking towards the future of where he ends up going side two is three songs they are all over seven minutes um and the last song is 10 minutes

and they're all like sweets essentially they're all like basically bottle of red bottle of white by by billy joel where it's just telling this sweeping epic story in several parts. And the first one on side two is about an incident that he saw on 57th Street. And it's a song called Incident on 57th Street by Bruce Springsteen. Okay, kind of classic piano intro that you hear in future songs. Yeah. Spanish Johnny drove in From the underworld last night With bruised arms and broken rhythm In a beat up old Buick

But dressed just like dynamite He tried selling his heart to the hot girls Over on Easy Street But they said, Johnny, it falls apart so easy And you know how it's these days achieved And the pimps swung their axes And you know how it's these days, it's cheap. And the pimps swung their axes and said, Johnny, you're a cheater. And the pimps swung their axes and said, Johnny, you're a liar. And from out of the shadows Came a young girl's voice

Said Johnny don't cry Puerto Rican Jane Oh won't you tell me what's your name? I wanna drive you down to the other side of town Where paradise ain't so crowded There'll be action going down on Shanty Lane tonight All them golden wheel fairies in a real bitch fight For thirty-eighths and kiss the girls goodnight

Oh, goodnight, it's alright, change Now let the black boys in to light the soul flame We may find it out on the street tonight, baby Oh, we may walk until the daylight. So this is the story of Spanish Johnny and Puerto Rican Jane. Parallels to West Side Story and Romeo and Juliet. In fact, Johnny is referred to as a cool Romeo and Jane is referred to as a late Juliet. I wonder how they got the parallel to Romeo and Juliet. In fact, Johnny is referred to as a cool Romeo and Jane is referred to as a late Juliet. I wonder how they got the

parallel to Romeo and Juliet. Johnny is he goes to Midtown Manhattan after being beat up while trying to work as a male escort and Jane comforts him and is basically like, hey Johnny, stay with me tonight.

And he's like, well, sorry, me and the boys are going out tonight. Kind of a parallel to Kiss's Beth. Me and the boys are playing. By the way, Sandy, I was reading, speaking of Kiss, that Paul Stanley named the Kiss song Shandy after this, after Bruce Springsteen's Sandy. Yeah, it's a rumor at least. Um,

so this is just basically like this epic story of these two young star cross lovers. Again, he's like kind of speaking as a narrator. Yeah. As a guy like telling the story. Right. I feel like he is on this album.

He's really moving. Oh, start. It's like the transition from these like fun party pop songs like East Street Shuffle and kind of zeroing in on where he ends up going, which is these big stories. And like you said, like acting as this narrator. Sometimes he's in first person where he's like, hey, I'm going to do the glory days. I think that's in first person yeah where he's like hey i'm gonna do the you know glory days is this i think that's in first person right um and it's all and it's like not bruce springsteen as himself going like

hey remember glory days yeah it's like a character yeah study of someone same with uh born to run yeah you know so like that's kind of where he's at but this one he's in the third person yep um and he's saying like johnny did this and sam did this but then sometimes he slips into first person where he's like hey hey i don't know yeah i think yeah but i mean like you know nebraska which is what i originally got into bruce springsteen for was like highway patrolman like yeah telling these incredible stories that were like suspenseful and interesting he he tells he doesn't tell some of the stories that you know like the three little bears that one goldilocks he doesn't say he doesn't tell that one ever he doesn't tell that one and i'm disappointed because i still

don't know that story by the way we have a new demand bruce if you haven't gotten back to us by now and i know you haven't you got to us by now, and I know you haven't, you gotta write a song about Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Goldilocks and the Three Bears, and they can be on the south side of Jersey if you want them to. Do whatever the fuck you have to. Whatever makes it make sense to you. We just want the story.

Because we don't know how it ends. Don't know it. Don't know it. We heard about it. Here it's great. Must be nice't know it. Don't know it. We heard about it. Here it's great. Must be nice to know it. So that song lasts for 7 minutes and 45 seconds and actually segues into the next song. So it's almost like it's a suite

of the two songs. What do you think of Incident at 57th Street? I like it a lot. I like the chorus especially. Yeah, me too. I think it's awesome. And if you have seven minutes where you're not doing anything, why not put it on? Yeah. I think

it's an awesome song. Yeah, this whole side I think is a great... Essentially, I could take or leave the first side a lot of times, but this second side becomes a central Springsteen. Totally. It segues directly into the next song, and this is one of the most classic

Bruce Springsteen songs of all time. It goes right into Rosalita, Come Out Tonight by Bruce Springsteen from the album The Wild, the Innocent, and the Eastern Shuffle. ¶¶ ¶¶ You pick up a little dynamite I'm gonna pick up a little gun And together we're gonna go out tonight And make that highway run You don't have to call me Lieutenant Rosie

And I don't wanna be your son You're the only lover I'm ever gonna need Just love these little girls down I'm Rosie, need you So big little girl's time I rose the year I won Dynamites in the milk cream, baby Playing with the bats Little guns downtown in front of the movers Trying out his attitude on all the cats

Papa's on the corner Waiting for the bus Mama, she's home in the window Waiting up for us She'll be there in that shuttle The rustler upstairs Cause you know we ain't gonna come I'm here on business, baby

I'm only here for fun And Rosie, you're the one Roll the lid and jump for the lighter Say Rita, come set my life on fire I just wanna be your lover, ain't no lie Roll the lid, you're my star desire So, classic. There's nothing wrong with this. Nope.

So ever since he wrote it, it traditionally became the song that he would close every concert with. Right. Until about 1984, when to sort of disrupt everything and be like, hey, we're not just going to do this every time. Yeah. He stopped playing it. Stopped playing it all together. Yeah, stopped playing it all together, and people were like, no! Yeah, what the fuck? We want

you to end your concerts this way. He would play it sporadically after that, and then finally around 2008, again, now it's become like the last song every every time you see i know it's in the encore it's in the encore i think of this tour but i think he always he doesn't end with it it's always like he does it like three or four songs in a row that bleed into one another and i think this is maybe the second to last one each time yeah the encore

is long and the house lights are up for the entire thing it's like a half hour yeah it's like hey my eyes yeah hey oh oh whoa um and and this song has several different parts to it it's got you know great little part towards the end this is also where in concerts little steven does the double mic duty which yeah i was just like guys buy more mics yeah why do you have to share a microphone listen to this part There's so many great parts to it. Yeah, it's fun. When Born to Run was about to come out and they sent advances of it to all the radio stations,

people were like, oh, this is going to be huge. So they started playing this song to kind of like... Warm people up. warm people up and be like, hey, Born to Run's coming out. Here's Rosalita. So that's how this song sort of got a second life. I didn't know that. And then in the 80s, MTV played a live video of it every once in a while. And then it slows down a little bit. Just a little bit.

Yeah. Just a smidge. Just a little bit. Yeah. Just a smidge. Just a little bit. So, one of the most classic. Yeah. Huge. Yeah, huge song if you're looking for a primer of how to get into them.

Yep. And if you ever go see them live, you're undoubtedly 99% chance you're going to see that song. That's exactly right. And then, like a lot of people would be like hey that's either the first track or the last track on an album nope nope he's got a 10 minute track here called new york city serenade the album to finish the album which has multiple parts yeah is new york city serenade played often or has it been? I've seen him play it, yeah.

But it's like a special thing when they start playing these notes and people are like, oh shit, you're going to do the full 10 minute New York City Serenade. It's definitely one I think he does with the E Street Band more than he did on any solo shows, I think. I could be talking out of my ass, though. Again, we're not experts. Looking it up. We're casual fans. You hear that siren? Is that on the track or down the street?

I can't tell. You have sort of a Gershwin thing here, or almost Bach, maybe? Yeah. And then going into jazzy Billy Joel, New York State of Mind. I like that it takes all this time with these intros and these songs. that it takes all this time with these intros and these songs. No, it totally is.

If you're a fan of Bottle of Red, Bottle of White, or any of the Meatloaf-type songs, it truly is. They've played it live 116 times. Hmm. And how many shows has he done? 117? 117, that's right. Oh, he stopped playing it in 2014.

This is too long. And he only played it once. I can't do this shit anymore. Played it mostly when the album came out. Right. So every once in a rare while, he'll... Oh, no, he played it in 2016, 2017. Yeah, he'll jump into it. I feel like... Did he play it on this show

that i saw here in la i'm not sure i feel like i've seen him play it at least once and everyone was like so we are two minutes and 16 seconds in and he still hasn't i would say the song still hasn't started this is all intro material oh yeah so we can talk about it while it's going on what do we think of new york city serenade i like it i like that it's long and sprawling it It's not in my, you know, in the pantheon of my favorite Bruce Springsteen songs, but I appreciate it. Do you think he's singing to New York or from New York? I think he's singing from New Jersey. At New York? At New York.

Do you think it can hear? Well, New York City famously has big big awesome ears that you can scream into and they can hear you from new jersey did not know that and if you don't think they can then you're stupid i mean we're over three minutes in still haven't really kicked into the chorus or anything which is the the challenge and with us talking about this song uh as it as it happens it's midnight manhattan it's funny because he's mostly played it out of the country really at least maybe it's recently maybe he's on the council for new york and he's trying to like educate everyone about what it's like yeah he's on the council for New York and he's trying to like educate everyone about what it's like.

Yeah. He's on the chamber of converse. Converse. Converse. I don't know quite what to say about it other than. Yeah, what do you think? Like, I think it's great. It's a total 10-minute ride.

Yeah. It's like when you go to Disneyland. Sometimes you go to Disneyland and you get into one of those carts like in, say, Roger Rabbit's. Yeah. Thrill Ride. Thrill Ride, whatever it's called. What is the Roger Rabbit ride called? I don't know if that's still there.

I don't think it's there anymore, but whoa. Aren't they getting rid of Toontown? I think they did. Or no, or they expanded it. there anymore, but whoa. Aren't they getting rid of Toontown? I think they did. Or no, or they expanded it. I just went like last weekend. What were you doing there? Just hanging out. Sometimes I go there and just hang out.

Roger Rabbit's cartoon spin. Doesn't Roger Rabbit have a little mini roller coaster in Toontown? God, I hope so. You think if he didn't? I mean, that would be insane if he didn't. But you know how you get into one of those things and it's like, oh, I waited in line for 90 minutes, 2 hours, 3 hours, 4 hours, 5 hours. And this thing's over in 90 seconds.

Yeah. Not this song. No, this is 10 minutes can you imagine uh one of those roller coasters lasting 10 minutes and and being about roger rabbit a song a 10-minute song about roger rabbit i bet no one has ever recorded a 10-minute song about roger rabbit before or a 10-minute roller coaster about bruce springsteen you think dollyland has at least a 10-minute long roller coaster about Dolly Parton? I hope so.

About Jolene? Just about Jolene. Like she's dead. Okay. Jolene. This guy tried to steal her husband. I'm going to make a roller coaster about you. And it takes 10 minutes to get from the beginning to the end.

We're about halfway through, but it's a great song yeah so let's listen to it on your own time yeah and that's the end of the album so how do you feel about do you think that this it makes sense now looking back that these first two albums are him kind of zeroing in on his thing and it's the next album the next album is never the same again yeah the next album suddenly he's figured out the template yeah and you can't necessarily go back to this type of stuff but that's why it's so interesting to listen to these of like oh here's i i wouldn't say that i listened to the first half all that much but i love listening to the last half of born to Run or this?

No, of this. We're not talking about Born to Run yet. Well, I was just kind of setting the table for our discussion next week. We haven't finished dinner yet. You already want to set the table? Yeah, you lunatic. I'm really sorry.

Yeah, I agree. Side one is him just sort of figuring it out. And side two, it sounds like's like zeroed in on what he wants to do and i think i think this album got really great reviews but again was not popular did not sell well and kind of came and went um without much fanfare um there's a few tracks that were cut uh we can we can hear some of and and this first one is interesting because this was the first song that they recorded some even say that it was just purely a writer's demo like like uh basically they recorded the song to give to other artists to say hey do you like this song do you want to record

it but this is a song called the fever what's what's interesting about it is his manager bruce springsteen's manager the guy appell Appel, who produced this record, he, without talking to anyone, without talking to Springsteen or anyone, slipped it to all these radio stations. And they all started playing it, and it became kind of a hit in a lot of these. Back then or later on? In 73. Oh, in 73. And so Springsteen then still hasn't put out the wild and the innocent the east street shuffle he doesn't really know what's going on he travels to these cities then to because doing

promo yeah and everyone's like when he's playing songs they're like just play the fever and he's like what like that's not even on the album yeah how do you and he doesn't know how to play it and he's like oh so i hear that you've been hearing the fever we're gonna figure know how to play it. And he's like, oh, so I hear that you've been hearing the fever. We're going to figure out how to play it next time I come through. Yeah. An interesting song. Did you listen to any of these beforehand? No. Okay, great.

This is Santa Adam. I've heard this. Oh, good. I have tracks. Oh, wow. Congratulations. I've heard all of those songs. This ended up coming out on 18 tracks,

not tracks. It's one of the most famous bootlegs, but they didn't put it on tracks, which then made everyone was so upset that they rushed out a single disc version called 18 Tracks that have this

and another popular song on it. So they put out the sprawling population and it's not on it's not on there yes and people were pissed this is another seven and a half minute song kind of here's here's my opinion because apparently like springsteen recorded it in one take and was like okay cool we got it and then never even thought he was ever gonna put it on the album yeah rude to dislike it apparently here's my take on it after hearing it especially when all the chorus kicks in it's like slightly more of an r&b song yeah and i think he wanted to move in the rock direction yeah oh sounds fun

oh he's distracted yeah i guess so what is he on twitter what do you think he was watching it's probably in the family live tweeting the emmys yeah probably oh listen while he's watching tv maybe he's doing that dark side of the moon kind of trying to sync it up but on the radio that would suck because you just have to get it right you'd have to call the dj and be like hey can you play the entire album over again the wizard of oz is about to come on cbs here we go three two one oh i said the one so oh shit okay here it comes he's got the fever oh he's got the fever nothing that a boy can do it's not really the style who's that probably clarence probably clarence but i don't know

so yeah a little more like r&b ish but it became a hit especially in like texas and all these these markets um and i don't think that he and he liked that didn't love he didn't love his he no he didn't like that his manager did that that's my opinion because i think in an interview later he's kind of like okay well what happened with that song is someone i'm not gonna say who yeah leaked it to the to these radio stations and then everyone like liked the song and i didn't like it so but um but you know what's interesting that he did with it is um little steven his band southside johnny and the asbury jukes um he left that band to join the east street band and he felt bad about it so he got them a record deal and produced songs and he he gave that song to southside

johnny and the asbury jukes and so they put out a version of it oh really that that did pretty well for them is a little sped up and a better tempo for it i I think. I was just checking if you played Fever in that. He plays Fever occasionally. Yeah. I think this is a better version. And Springsteen, I think, likes this version better too.

Yeah. I think what happened is after Trax came out, a lot of these songs became a little more well-known, so they start slipping them into into concerts um so that's like the the most well known of the cut songs from yes i look there are other ones there's santa anna seaside bar song which is fun but doesn't really have a great chorus he plays zero and blind terry a fair amount especially in his like solo what about santa anna i feel like santa anna is not

that great i think um but but one i think the best out of all of these is a song called thunder crack um and he plays that you know a good amount. Oh, she's an angel from the inner land. this is an eight and a half minute long song by the way i think could have been on the record yeah it sounds like it's on the record like if he had decided you know what i'm gonna do everything like side two yeah This is rad Yeah This is rad. Yeah. Maybe he thinks it's too similar to Rosalita or something at the time, but it sounds like it would have fit in great on this record. I can see it.

People thinking it's similar to Rosalita a little bit. Yeah, so maybe that's why it's not on. But I like it a lot. Yeah, it's really cool. And when he does it live, especially with the band, the full band, he'll launch into that opening part. Which kind of sounds like almost something out of Tom Joad days or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cool. I like it. Anyway, we're not not gonna play every fucking unreleased song like go look them up be here for years yeah literally um what do we think of the wild the innocent and the east street shuffle adam i think it's a really great album but not quite on target yet and uh you but you can hear him sort of circling the target and he'll be dead center on the next album it's interesting because sometimes i would rather listen to this record the first two sometimes i'm just really in the mood for of like hey i want to hear these longer epics um and this sort of style that is not quite yet

the house style yeah i i enjoy that sometimes more so so i would say that the first two records i go back to a lot uh-huh um but yeah i mean listening especially last night again that first side i'm a little like okay we're not quite there yet but i love the second side i love the first side of the first album like the first song and then growing up yeah i love the kind of sound that's kind of similar to east street shuffle on this album um but i really love side two of this album when he's really kind of finding his his footing it's pretty great so um definitely not a clunker uh i would call it a spelunker yeah it's a spelunker definitely yeah it's climbing yeah and uh almost at the summit there we go oh god so a true spelunker a true spelunker um all right well spelunkers go down into caves, don't they?

They don't climb summits. I hope so. Yeah. For their sake, I hope so. Okay, that's going to do it for us for this episode. Indeed. And then I think next week we're at B-O-R. Or B-T-R. Or B-O-R or B-T-R

or B-C-R we're at we're at the the album that broke him through to the mainstream yeah and we'll figure out

if we like it in retrospect or if we think it fucking sucks alright that's gonna do it for us for this week we'll see you next week and until then we hope that you found what you're looking for bye

bye Seven angels got my number since I fell in love with you. Seven angels got my number. Seven angels.