U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Springin' Springsteen On My Bean? - Western Stars

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Adam Scott Aukerman squeak out an ep on Springo's nineteenth studio album, Western Stars—an album heavily influenced by 1970s SoCal pop music. But first, the Scotts gab about novelizations of movies, complimentary restaurant chips, and weird beards.

From born in the USA to death to my hometown, this is you springing Springsteen on my bean. The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Bruce. This is good rock and roll. Did you forget? Music? Yeah, I think that's pretty ball Music? I wanna take a nap Yeah, I think that's pretty much Good rock and roll music

Yeah Yeah Hey everyone, welcome to the show This is you springing Springsteen on my bean The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things rock and... Bruce This is good rock and roll music And special bonus.

I mean, it's not a bonus episode necessarily, but we squeaked one in. This is a real squeaker. Ew. Why is that gross? I think there, I mean, when one is squeaked out, that is the, I guess, sort of slang term for a really high pitched, quick fart,

high pitched and quick. Like, I don't think it's considered to be squeaking one out. If it lasts for like four seconds, like what if it lasts for half an hour? What's that? Then see your doctor, my good friend. That's a lot like the erection that lasts.

What is it, more than three minutes? That's what I tell my wife. Honey, if this thing keeps going past in allotted time, we're in trouble. Oh, my gosh. we're in trouble oh my gosh uh it's a it's a blustery cold day here uh in the hollywood hills i'm just glad you still have your christmas stuff out yes we the snowman is still here paul f tompkins is not taken aback this is a supporting character from the uh the comedy bang bang best ofs we play a game with it. And technically it's not his because oh my god, you don't care. I don't.

But you want to touch it, you're going to touch his little hat, aren't you? Yeah. This looks like something that you would get on sale next to the register for under I'm going to say under four dollars at cbs i didn't realize you

were such a snob but that's interesting to to see like how classist you are oh okay where how how much do you think i think it was five dollars five dollars and i got it away from the register oh wait a second oh i think it has an electronic element. It does. Look, you've got to listen to the best stuff to understand what we're talking about. But there's a little snowman doll. Yep, he's pushed it. Okay.

It spins around. This just rocketed up to $9.99. Okay. We're accidentally playing the snowman game now. If it looks at you when it stops, you have good luck for the rest of the year. Okay. Anyway, itman game now. If it looks at you when it stops, you have good luck for the rest of the year. Anyway, it's playing now. This is Paul F. Tompkins' thing and you're sort of co-opting it.

How long does this last? This song? You have no patience for Christmas stuff. It's looking right at me. Holy shit. Just like it did in the best ofs.

Yeah, but it's not the best of Bang Bang, so it doesn't count. It counted on the best ofs Yeah, but it's not the best of Bang Bang, so it doesn't count. It counted on the best ofs though, because I was the only person it looked at during the best ofs. Really? Yeah, so I'm having, I mean, it's just reiterating.

Well, then this reverses it. Oh, shit. Yeah, just took it back. Oh no, I've had such a great couple of weeks. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Adam Scott is here. He hates all things Christmas. He's a scrooge he's a miser

he needs to be visited by several ghosts i hope when i die i visit him just to play him santa claus is going to town uh right before christmas day so he can throw open the window and yell down at an orphan and go make him be his personal uber eats hey go pick me up a turkey by the way don't pick it up yourself you you fucking old man. I forgot to tell you that we were driving someplace for a Christmas dinner and I was driving with my kids. They were in the car with me and we were trying to find like Christmas music to listen to.

And I was like, oh, hey, you guys listen to this. And I put on that Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town. The one you ate so much. And they were like, listen to this. And I put on that Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town. The one you hate so much. And they were like, what is this? Like, what is this? Why would anyone? Yeah.

That reminds me to talk to you during the break about my idea for the spinoff podcast that maybe we can squeak that one in before you leave. I'm not sure. Spinoff, like one episode? One episode, yeah. Okay, got it. Yep.

But this is a true squeaker, this particular episode. Yeah, it's a real squeaker. This is high-pitched and just coming out real quick. Yep. This is probably going to be a short show, short episode, because we're trying to squeak it in right before our final episode of the year short hot and high pitched i didn't realize hot was part of it although i guess i guess you know they're brewing in there for a while yeah it's it's anything that comes out of your body higher temperatures is body temperature isn't it like you can't

nothing very scalding comes out of your body right If it does, if you're like running a normal temperature and then something comes out of your body that burns your skin, you're in trouble. You're in trouble. You're in a lot of trouble. But yeah, I would imagine farts, the temperature isn't hot necessarily, but I mean, it's hot compared to room temperature. Yeah. How hot do you keep your rooms by, though? What's room temperature to you? 112 degrees. Because you always want your body temp to be lower than whatever room you're in. And I also, I like whenever I walk outside, no matter what time of year it is,

I want to be pleasantly surprised at how cool it is. Middle of the summer, you're like, oh, it's cold out here. It's freezing. 95 degrees. Adam Scott is here, and Golden Globe Award winning Adam Scott? No, wait. Yeah, those were last night. You weren't there.

No, I was not there. You were nominated, though, once, weren't you? Last year. Yeah, because your uh has not been on this this full year so that's true um that's your uh excuse that's my problem as to why you weren't there last night but uh you were nominated who who won that year kevin costner kevin costner for yellowstone that's right wow he was there last night yeah but he wasn't there last year when he won he actually won. Interesting.

What a weird guy, right? Yeah. What the fuck, man? It's like he comes when he's not winning. Yeah. He's never there when he does win. Yeah. Weirdo.

I think he was stuck in Santa Barbara. There were mudslides. Oh, that's right. I remember the host. You remember that? I do. I actually do because the host brought up like, Kevin Costner cannot be here. He is trapped in Santa Barbara.

Yeah. And everyone laughed because it sounds like a joke like trapped in santa barbara it's just 45 minutes away trapped in your mansion and santa barbara and then then everyone heard about the mudslides and realized it wasn't a joke yeah they couldn't they could not uh make it down there i like to i i would like to base a movie an action movie on him trying desperately to get out of the mudslides of Santa Barbara to go win his Golden Globe. Well, I would imagine he has horses up there. Yeah, I hope so.

He could have just ridden a horse down to Los Angeles. You think horses don't get stuck in the mud, my dear boy, with those clip-cloppers? Maybe, but the clip-cloppers are kind of made for foul weather. That is true. Horses really are the cars of rain. Is this an episode of Horses Really Are the Cars of Rain? I guess so. Hey, everyone. Welcome to Horses Are the Cars of Rain. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about, well, look, obviously, our central conceit.

Horses are the cars of rain. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you don't want to be driving around your car in the middle of a flash flood warning. Absolutely not. But do you want to be riding your horse around in the middle of a flash flood? Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. I actively seek it out because it's fun.

It's all in what they say. Nay like sunny day nay yeah if it rains grab these rains oh yeah see that's why those are called rains that's right because if you're raining you gotta get on that horse yeah are you a horse guy have you ever ridden a horse oh yeah yeah yeah you go out there you you do go out to a ranch occasionally, I know. I do, yeah. And you slip on the old cowboy hat. Spurs. Obviously Spurs. I mean, everyone in LA has a pair of Spurs in their car.

Spurs are really, when you think about what they're actually used for. Yeah. It's just jamming into the side. Yeah, it's kind of a bummer. Yeah. When you think about it. But they look so good, don't they? Yeah, and the sound they make is fantastic.

That's why people keep them in Los Angeles. They keep them in your trunk. I like just the accoutrement of dressing. Like anything you can add to an outfit. Chaps. Sock garters. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Just like anything extra that. Sock garters. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

Just like anything extra that we don't wear anymore. I love it. I love it too. A vest. I love a vest. But all of this stuff, all of that doesn't matter. When it really comes down to it, the only thing that matters is the rain and getting through it on a horse. That's right.

And it's pouring down and you got the gentleman's umbrella, a cowboy hat on. Oh, yeah. That's the only way to go. A true gentleman wears a cowboy hat rather than an umbrella. That is why they're, okay, so a lot of times during the sun, a brim, it's to keep the sun out of your eyes. But during the rain, it's to keep the rain out of your eyes. Brims are the unsung heroes of hats. Brims are the unsung heroes of the world.

I mean, when you think of a hat, think of Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. Great guy, weird beard. Weird beard. We could just we could just like fine call it call it like but back then that was not a weird beard back then they were experimenting is this an episode of weird beards yeah be fine lips sweeter than a honey and wine it tickles when he kisses me crazy hey everyone welcome to weird beards this is scott and this is scott and look you know what this show is about it's about the weirdest beards we can think of and guess what there are a lot of weird beards

out there that beard made entirely of bees weird one of the weirdest that i think we've seen okay but we were talking about abraham lincoln yeah weird beard himself man president weird beard that is a weird beard is there a president with weird a weirder beard than abraham lincoln yeah i don't think so not a lot of presidents with beards for no no that's definitely unless you got a lot with chops go to camp david for like seven weeks and grow out a really good one. Like, fuck this. Yeah. For seven weeks.

But yeah, you don't even see a president unshaven. That's the thing, because, you know, when I had my TV show and you currently have yours, the shaving aspect of it. Yeah. Every single day. And I know that that was Letterman. He talked about that. That's why he grew out. Speaking of weird beards,

he's the patron saint of our podcast. There you go. There's a weird beard. But he just grew it out because he was like one. I think he literally stopped his show because he didn't want to shave every day. Well, on Parks and Rec, I had like a few days of growth the entire time, so I never had to shave.

But did you have to shave it down to the- Well, they trimmed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had a little bit of growth, but I remember occasionally I would forget and I would go in there and they'd go like, no, you're not matching. Yeah. You'd have to- It's the worst. Shave it down to what you're on. On Severance, I do have to shave every day.

Clean shave. Because you're in an office job. I'm do have to shave every day. Clean shave. Because you're in an office job. I'm guessing as to what the concept of the show is. You're in some sort of an office? Yes. And we have to shave cleanly every day.

But the thing is, with this cast, we all give each other a shave. Oh, you shave each other? That's part of the... You haven't seen the show, but that's part of the show. Oh, that's the first 15 minutes of every episode?

Every episode. Everyone shaving each other? It's all shaving. So did Lincoln, Mr. Weird Beard, President Weird Beard, sorry. Did he shave his mustache every day? If so, why not just grow it out, dude? Yeah, was that kept track of in the newspaper? Like how much growth was in the mustache area?

Do you ever think like he just wanted a like a week off where he's like mary yeah this is something out of it's a wonderful life uh mary mary i'm not gonna i'm not gonna uh we're gonna take the week off i'm not gonna shave today now and then just suddenly he's got full beard yeah like i'm gonna look up abe lincoln why did he not uh want the hair on his lip so one can only imagine that he grew the beard out because he was ashamed of his neck right what was going on with his neck well you know how like some people wear scarves when they start getting older you know oh yeah sure you know because the neck is

is truly the wrinkled old prune of the body yeah sure the older you get here by the way i found one picture of what it would look like if he had the full beard yeah he looks weird that's a weird that's weird yeah with the mustache that's a way weirder beard. So he probably was like, oh, I hate my neck. Yeah. But I can't afford a scarf. Scarves were super expensive. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that.

But the beard is the scarf of nature. Yeah, it's nature's scarf. So he just grew that puppy out. And then everyone's like, well, what about the mustache? He's like, this ain't cosmetic jack yeah he had he was busy he's a busy guy there was a lot going on civil war the rest everything else you know i mean you don't have time to uh to keep that mustache going no no you could i mean you have time to certainly shave it every day but you don't have time to let it grow but when you shave it you don't have to worry about it exactly here's a little pic though of him with just totally totally nude face oh yeah i've seen that you've seen that one naked face lincoln yeah can i see it i thought you said you saw i have

seen it yeah i've seen that. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. We're still in the middle of Rain Horses. I don't even remember the title of the show anymore so we gotta end it Okay bye Good Shelf Really Good Shelves Did I say Good Shelf

Did you say Good Shuff I said Good shuff? Did you say good shuff? I said good shuff. I agree. Adam, you ever fall asleep during a movie? In the theater? Yeah. Which one? The first one that happened to me with was Willow.

Willow. Yeah. Interesting. I was a kid and we went to see Willow and I had just gotten back from Hawaii and I was burnt to a crisp, sunburnt. So when you said you just got back, like literally airport to the theater? Yeah, I was like, bring me directly to Willow. Because I can only imagine you were on vacation.

Yeah. And Willow comes out and you're like. Gotta get back. I gotta see Willow and your parents are just like. Oh my God. Because Willow was a big deal. Willow was a big deal uh because it was george lucas yeah george lucas and and it was kind of like oh no this is george lucas's new world that

he's created so i mean for someone like us you're on vacation suddenly willow comes out yes any day that you're not seeing it is a day wasted yes so you're in hawaii one of the most beautiful places on earth but you're like i gotta get back i was visiting my dad because he was on a working sabbatical in hawaii whoa and so i was there and so i came back sunburnt and probably feverish i don't know why but in the theater during a matinee i fell asleep for most of the movie. And were you with someone? I was with a couple of friends.

Oh, wow. And they didn't nudge you or anything like that? No, I don't remember. I was like 14. 13, 14. Is this another episode of I Don't Remember? Yeah. Hey, everyone. This is I Don't Remember. This is Scott. And this is Scott.

Did we do this I Don't Remember before? I don't remember. I'm pretty sure we did this as a show before, right? I don't remember. I don't remember. Oh. The What?

I don't what? Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Um, I did the, the one thing I did when I say to her, listen, fuck, what was it? I was just, I was just thinking about it. Was it the, uh, the, the, the, yeah, the, the, the, the, uh, fuck.

Uh, I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. Okay, bye. Bye. Good second half. I mean, not a lot of information. No, but they're... I mean, it's fun to listen to them try to work it out.

Yeah. Sometimes I'm shouting at my speakers like, it's this thing. Yeah, me too. You know. But I don't. Yeah. I have to admit that I don't remember. Yeah, no.

You don't remember if anyone nudged you? Nah. I was with my friend Brian Anderson and someone else. Mr. Anderson. But I fell asleep and then I don't think I ever saw it again. Name that movie. Willow? Yes.

Oh, The Matrix? Yeah, congrats. You named the movie you were talking about. I thought that's what you were asking me. But you were saying Mr. Anderson, like The Matrix. The Matrix, yeah. So you never caught back up with Willow? I watched it.

Never did. Did you watch the TV show? I did. I watched the movie again in anticipation of the TV show. Oh my God. Is this I Love Films or is this I Love Films? Oh, fuck yeah. Hey everyone, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott.

And this is Scott. Great to be back. We had, look, we had a serious misstep when we were talking about film left on like showers. That's not what this show is about. I don't know why we were thinking it was about that. Well, we, it was an honest mistake. We thought that. Honestly, we just came to the studio one day

and that's what we thought the show was about and so we decided to talk about it for a while we forgot what the show was actually about we forgot ourselves and i know there there's a competing podcast out there i like film that edgar wright i guess has something to do with he's executive producing or something like that it's fine it's fine stay in your fine. Stay in your lane, bro. But Edgar has his own thing going, and we're going to leave it alone. How about we just move on from that subject? He has his own thing going, which is writing and directing incredible major studio films. That everyone loves. I don't know why he's horning in on our side of the street.

You know what I mean? Right. Stick to what you do best, which is creating these incredible films. Bro. I don't know why he's horning it on our side of the street. You know what I mean? Right. Like stick to, stick to what you do best, which is creating these incredible films, bro. And then we'll stick to what we do best, which is loving those films.

Loving. Well, and also just loving films as a medium. Yes. Please say that again. As a medium film, as a way to express yourself through art. Yeah. It's a medium second only to probably painting,

maybe sculpture certainly is up there above film. What else? Poetry. Oh yeah, poetry. Yeah, plays. Oh my God, plays are so good winking winking definitely like making funny noises with your tongue like that's above uh that's above films yeah yeah um oh uh doodling doodling. Doodling. Squeaking one out.

Squeaking one out while you're doodling absentmindedly. Better than film. Yeah, of course. I mean, yeah. Obviously. Like films. But films are the best. Films are the best.

To be honest, they're kind of a drag. Yeah. Especially these days. But Willow, you watched the entire movie in preparation for the show for the show okay and what did you how does the movie hold up well i remember not liking it a lot when it came out uh being a little disappointed although i really liked val kilmer i was like who is this guy was that like before top guy it was either the same year or, but it was the first thing I remember ever seeing. Plus I never saw Top Gun when it was out. Had to catch up with it on my other show, Scott Hasn't Seen.

But I remember just being like, oh my God. Wait, have you not seen Top Gun? I just, I saw it within the last year on my sister's show. You had not seen Top Gun? No. Jesus. What did you think? Didn't like it,

but the new one kind of justifies its existence. Yeah, the new one's better. Yeah. But the old one's pretty good. If you view it as one movie like Boyhood, where suddenly there's an intermission and they age 30 years, then it's great. That's an interesting way to think of all sequels and reboots as Boyhood.

It actually kind of makes everything better. Yes. But I really like Joanne, Wally Kilmer and Val Kilmer. I thought they were great in it. And a little disappointed in the story. Watched it again. I thought it was about what I remembered, and the series was interesting. What was the series? It's Willow all grown up, or I guess older,

because he was grown up in the first one. But the baby- Is that Warwick Davis? Yes. Okay. But the baby is grown up. I don't even remember a baby. There that Warwick Davis? Yes. Okay. But the baby has grown up. I don't even remember. There's like a whole storyline.

But it was an interesting tone where like everyone spoke modern, like way more modern than even the film. They spoke like kind of in slang, like modern slang. It was interesting. I liked it. Good performances as well. All right. Bye. Bye. modern slang. It was interesting. I liked it. Good performances as well. All right, bye. Bye.

Jesus Christ. Man, I don't know how much more of that I can take. Listening to those guys drone on about fucking Willow. Is Willow even considered to be a film? It's like a piece of entertainment, I guess. It's content. It's all content. Look, George Lucas, fellow content creator.

Yep. We're all just creating content. We're all peers. All right. We have to take a break. We're just squeaking this one out. This is a shorter episode, I believe. A true squeaker.

We're going to come back, and when we come back, we will be talking about the album Western Stars on You Springin' Springsteen on Beane. We'll be right back. this one is getting the air piano treatment from adam scott and he's also a pianist who's like drumming occasionally as well don't you don't you see those guys all the time that are playing piano and drums?

Yeah, I mean, I've talked about them on other shows. Scooter and the Bee was a band that we used to see at the Santa Maria Inn during happy hour. One-man band? Two-man band. Two-man band. The drummer played drums with his right hand and bass with his left. his right hand and bass with his left. Uh-huh.

Uh, the bass turned up loud enough to where he could just press the strings and it would make the bass notes necessary. Uh-huh. Sure. And then also sang. Uh-huh. Uh, and then the second person was a guitarist who played the trumpet and sang. Yeah. And they played, and they were great.

We used to love them. Scooter and the Bee. Yeah. Those guys are great. Yeah. Those guys are great. Yeah. Free dinner. If you ordered a drink, and we would always try to order the cheapest soda with like a buffet, tri-tip buffet. If you order a drink, you get a free dinner?

You get like a free, they had a buffet there during happy hour. Uh-huh. And as long as you ordered a drink, and since since we were all broke it would be like a dollar soda and ever and the waitresses would see us coming and just be like oh jesus christ and then and then we would go can i have a coke they'd be like yes and then you get free dinner and this two-man band is yes i don't understand the money-making properties of this because most people would come in and order like five drink five alcoholic drinks but still why not charge them for food well the place is packed okay so it's a it's a volume never understood happy hour as a way to make money uh because bars are

usually not generally at the the hours between three and six would not a lot of people coming in to get drunk. So it's trying to entice them to come in. To come in a little earlier. By offering them free food. Yeah. Or half off appetizers. Food is... Do I need to like explain the concept of money to you as well?

Food is wholesale, by and large cheap, while alcohol you can charge a shitload for. So you're overall making money your margins are better on alcohol alcohol is is the the the most the biggest money maker out of sure so if you have like a tub of refried beans speaking of squeaking one out you could dollop some refried beans into a cup. You're making it sound more disgusting than this place gave a dynamite buffet. I don't know whether they still do. You hand out cups of beans to everybody, refried beans to everybody, free beans with your drink.

I went to a restaurant the other day. They gave us a cup of refried beans. Refried beans? Yum, refried beans. This is a fancy Mexican restaurant mexican restaurant on rodeo drive and they gave uh they they put down tortilla chips and they were like the chips are complimentary oh and i was like yeah that's usually the case but then then i started thinking like okay other restaurants don't do this you know you go to into a sandwich shop they don't just put down a basket of potato chips and say like

have as many as you want but an italian restaurant puts down bread bread sure tortilla chips is bread in a different form i mean it's corn based so it's not bread we sound like two aliens trying to figure out restaurants. I mean, morons. What are we doing? I don't know. Oh, I did something stupid last night. Oh, what did you do?

I've decided there's this one thing I've started collecting. Classic cars. One thing I've started collecting and classic cars sort of sort of a little bit over the past few years, just here and there, picking up movie novelizations. Remember? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those are fun. I still have the one to Mork and Mindy somewhere. Oh, you do?

Yeah. Yeah. It delved really deep into the characters. I. Yeah. Because as a kid, I had like E.T. and. Yeah. Those.

And so went on eBay last last night and was like, oh, Jesus, there's obviously so many. And so I bought way too many of these things. What'd you buy? Let me see here. I've got it. I remember the Superman one. I think it was Superman or Superman 2. You know how the writers, they need so much lead time in order to write them

they get the script way way that's the thing that's so cool about and so then they write these novelizations based on the original script and then things massively change in editing so you'll get to see like what the writer originally intended that was the coolest thing as as a kid um you popping in gum in the middle of the show that's right so okay so i got alien yeah i've read that one harold and maude haven't read that twilight zone the movie i feel like i read that one but i'm not sure face off and air force one they were still doing them during face off sudden. Sudden impact novelization. Wow.

I felt like these things went out of fashion in the 90s. No, I guess they're still doing them. They're still doing them. Grease. Grease. The China Syndrome. Wow. Bright Lights, Big City, which was a book beforehand. That was a book, yeah.

But this one has Michael J. Fox on the cover. I have that exact, I have it somewhere around here. With him on the cover, yeah. With him on the cover, yeah. Predator. Predator. See, here's why I'm the cover. With him on the cover, yeah. Predator. Predator. See, here's why I'm surprised they were still around in the 90s, is because I felt like these were a salve for a hungry moviegoer who couldn't-

There's nothing else. Well, you also couldn't, there was no home video. Yeah, that's right. So you couldn't just rent the movie and just rewatch it. I remember reading the E.T. novel, that's right. So you couldn't just rent the movie and just re-watch it. I remember reading the E.T. novelization like three times. Yeah, because you couldn't just watch E.T. whenever you wanted. And there was no

supplementary material. There weren't like making of specials anywhere. Right, exactly. And Predators the 80s, right? But that one was weirdly expensive. The Cannonball Run, The Saint. Is Predator the Michael Jackson novelization?

Yes. The Saint, the The Saint, the Val Kilmer? Yes. Speaking of Val. Superman 3. 3, wow. Novelization. Okay. At that point, I believe I was too old to be reading these. Superman 3? Yeah. 1983?

No, I guess I was still in the zone hmm then i got up until like 86 someone was offloading several really so like you were buying these in bulk the natural wise guy which became goodfellas which was already a book gladiator naturals is that what you said first blood and platoon okay that was all in one so let me let me ask you a real question are you going to read these or are you just going to look at them no i have them i have them in their own bookshelf oh wow but do you but but do you actually read them um i've looked because there are good books out there that you could be right but the the um the original Close Encounters novel,

Steven Spielberg actually wrote the novel, and it's really good. Sure. The Pretty in Pink novel. I've read that one, yeah. It has the original ending. That's right. So yeah, that was 86 or so.

Back to the Future 3, Moonraker, Poltergeist, Gremlins, Back to the Future 2, Batman, michael keaton one look this is i love films i think it is hey everyone we're back welcome to i love films this is scott and this is scott and uh adam here is or scott is listing movies go and then there's one more Rambo First Blood Part 2. Cliffhanger, I lost the auction. How much? They were asking quite a bit, and I wasn't willing to go there. That's the cover of Rambo, though.

That's awesome. That's a good one. How much did you offer for Cliffhanger, and what beat? I have no idea. I really don't know. Anyway, this is probably too many. Probably. You think that's way too many? I love that you collect these, though.

I think it's a fascinating. I mean, it's better than collecting Arabian horses or whatever. And there are no more like Blu-rays or albums. I mean, there are, but I don't collect them. Here's a challenge. Yeah. Someone do a novelization of this show. blu-rays or albums i mean there are but i don't collect them here's a challenge yeah someone do a novelization of this show not not i'm sorry not this show because this is i love films yeah

of that other show they could do i love films the novelization yeah why not but also you spring and springsteen on my bean the novelization and then adam will buy it for any price yeah oh anything we should commission someone to do this because how much how much did these novelists make on these because the novelist yeah sometimes these were like big science fiction writers and yeah alan dean foster foster yeah he did splinter of the mind's eye but he did the alien one yeah right yeah um yeah i think that how much could they possibly be getting paid for these? I mean, probably at least... A hundo?

Yeah, $100. I could spare 50 of that. Sure, we can split it. I can spare 40. Okay. We'll go 40, 40, and then we'll get 20. Because it's weird to go to the ATM. They only give 20s.

You know what? We'll do crowdsourcing. Remember crowdsourcing? Yes, we'll do that. Are people still doing crowdsourcing to like raise money? Yeah, they should. Yeah,

they are. Why not? No crowdsourcing. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Wow. Quite an episode.

Terrible episode. Terrible. All right, we got to talk about this record. Yes. This is a true squeaker. We squeaked this episode in. We're squeaking this, but it's getting longer and longer. I know, I know.

But due to fan demand, defand, people really wanted us to talk about Western Stars, which is an album by Bruce Springsteen. And so we're going to do it. So when we last left off, Adam, a lot happens in between our last episode. Okay. Because our last episode covered 2014. Sure did. American Beauty and High Hopes. our last episode okay because our last episode covered uh 2014 uh um sure did american beauty and high hopes so 2014 um western stars doesn't come out till 2019 yeah so this is a really long break this is well let's talk about what he did so uh it's not really a break because he was pretty busy but um so 2014 was high hopes and american beauty yeah 2015 he

puts out the ties that bind that oh yeah the river box and then he tours it then he tours it doing these amazing three three and a half hour shows where he plays the entire 85 minute river album as well as another hour and a half of hits of hits yeah um god that must have did you see that show yes i the i highly recommend people uh getting the sports arena show that i was at because uh i went to it was blown away and then was like was it as good as i remember and bought it on bruce springsteen.net and it's i will listen to it it's do they have video from it or is it just audio they know it's just audio but he put out every show i think this is this is when the previous tour the high hopes tour is when he started putting out every single show as as a download um and so every single ties a bind uh tour stop he did as but the but the one that i was at was really

incredible so he's doing that for a good year um and then 2016 he puts out a little thing called his novel yeah his autobiography yeah and uh that is a really good book if you yeah there's actually a ton of shit coming out that he did yeah in this period so so he did his autobiography we we have used his book to kind of like get into the mind of springo himself yeah um he also puts out chapter and verse which is the accompanying soundtrack to the uh autobiography which has a couple of unreleased stuff um which is mainly like his recordings before he became bruce springsteen with the castiles and steel mill and the bruce springsteen band um so that comes out in 2016 and then that's such a success and such a good book that he then adapts it sort of because suddenly in 2018 it's announced that

he is uh doing solo broadway, Springsteen on Broadway. Yeah. Sorry, that was 2017 through 2018. So he's busy as a bee. Yeah. If you haven't seen Springsteen on Broadway, highly recommend going to Netflix if you have it and checking out the documentation of that. Yeah. You saw it.

Yeah, it was great. I saw it live, so I'm was you saw it yeah it's great we went i saw it live i'm sure you did yeah uh we went to it uh not knowing anything about it blind buy um cool up was very excited and we got i i went into the auction you know the uh the lottery in order to be picked to get tickets i won i won the lottery um the only lottery i've ever won other than the one that i think i was i won 83 million dollars i think on that one but um those are the only two lotteries nothing higher than that nothing higher yeah unfortunately um but uh won the lottery and then got uh uh front row seats wow um and you know who was at the performance i was at? Brian Eno. Old sourpuss? No.

He's too busy sulking in his apartment. Yeah. He's too grouchy to go to a Bruce Springsteen show. Oh, go to the theater. Pass. No, you know who was there? Who? Oprah herself and Gail.

Were they in the front row? No, they had, front row was probably not the best seats. They were in like, you know. Center. Center, probably seven, row seven. But I tell you, when they walked in, you think you're at a Springsteen show and you're like 10 feet away from him.

Nothing can outshine him everyone just like up in the balconies and everyone starts like clamoring and peering over and taking pictures of her and stuff um but yeah we didn't we didn't know anything about the the broadway show so i kind of was like well what i imagine is him like him acoustically performing his songs yeah like going like here's one i wrote when i was taking a shit one day sure and he he plays you know born in the usa but what i what i didn't realize what it was going to be this incredible sort of meditation on his life where he he was talking about the meanings it wasn't all the hits he was playing like kind of older songs yeah but talking about his life and why you know everything about him growing up and his relationships with his mother and his place growing up right at the beginning right yeah

um and it's him on the piano uh during a lot of it um it's really an incredible incredibly moving uh show so check it out on netflix if you can and the soundtrack is really exceptional and that version of brilliant disguise he and patty sing together is extraordinary right um so really just a fruitful frue freers um for springo um and then we get to 2019 and that's when western stars comes out and Western stars comes out. If you had to guess what day February 23rd, close June 14th, 2019. That's what I'm,

that's what I, that was my eighth guess. Yep. Um, June 14. So we're in the middle of, uh, uh,

June in the middle of the year of 2019, he's finished the Broadway run and he comes out with this. Now, sort of trying to figure out exactly what the story behind this record is, here's my little sleuthing. Oh, did you put on your Sherlock Holmes hat? I certainly did. Speaking of weird hats. And brims? Weird hat, weird beard on him and Watson.

The absence of. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird because if you're going to have a beard, like it needs to exist. Yeah. But the brim, the star of Sherlock Holmes's hat, man. I think it's like, yeah. A couple of droopy poopies. But then the brim that's

folded up and buttoned. Isn't that what it is? I don't think he has a button in the front. He's got the one in the back. It's like Snoopy ears, but not on the sides of the head, right? You know what I'm saying? Let me look up Sherlock Holmes' hat. Sherlock Holmes

hat. Yeah, it's got two brims see this is the thing you don't need one in the back because you know there there are no eyes that you're shielding in the back what are you protecting the neck your neck your neck protect your neck who are you fucking uh the wu-ang Clan? Get the fuck out of here, Sherlock. No shit, Sherlock. Keep digging, Watson. No, they protect your neck from the sun. Because melanoma.

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. Maybe we should all wear Sherlock Holmes hats. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so I've been doing a little sleuthing about this record because here's here's the weird or odd part of it is in 2017 Springo says I haven't written a song in years right um and he's in the middle of writer's block. Hmm. And he's doing these Broadway shows,

and he hasn't written anything. And then suddenly Western Stars comes out. It was mainly recorded in 2010 and 2014. Oh. So I think he recorded most of these songs right around Working on a Dream era. huh um in fact we when we talked about working on a dream we said this one sounds like it's from western stars yeah i think he recorded the same most of the stuff around there and then like did some new vocals or maybe did some overdubs for it huh um but um these are all kind of like between nine and five to nine years old recordings that he dusted off and put out as a record.

Huh. Interesting. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah, because he hadn't in 2017, he said, I hadn't written a new song in years. So he actually doesn't really write new songs till Letter to You. Exactly. Whoa.

Yeah. Doesn't really write new songs till Letter to You. Exactly. Whoa. Yeah. So these are all kind of older recordings that he turns into a record. Do you think he sort of mixed them just to make them all thematically similar? Because they all do kind of feel like they're from a bygone era a little bit. Yeah.

a bygone era a little bit yeah i i think he i i there are certain songs like that one we're talking about on on uh uh working on a dream where i think he was probably working on this record around then and decided not to put it out yeah for whatever reason um uh but uh yeah let me let me look at the the technical because there there are um brendan o'brien is not involved okay so it seems like maybe these were after he and brendan o'brien stopped working together um after working on a dream like maybe he started working on this album around then and then decided to put out wrecking ball uh instead that's what that's what it seems like to me is like he got inspired to do wrecking ball due to the political climate at the time and put that out instead and was like i'm just going to put this on the back burner for a while so this is ron on yellow yeah ron and yellow produced um and uh so let's talk about the the sort of uh sound of the album the sound is

sort of this 70s am gold uh jimmy webb kind of Yeah. And if you don't know who Jimmy Webb is, I don't know what to tell you. Um, but, uh, he, he wrote, uh,

incredible songs that were mainly Glenn Campbell was one of his muses, I would say. Uh, yeah. Uh, let me play a little bit of, wichita lineman which is one of his biggest songs i am a lineman for the county

and i drive the main road Searching in the sun for another overload I hear you singing in the wire I can hear you singing in the wire So I can hear you. So if you're listening to the production, strings, guitars, kind of a country feeling. I love this stuff. I went through a big Jimmy Webb, Glen Campbell phase. Yeah, Glen Campbell phase.

Do you have Glen Campbell's, the album he did of covers? Yeah. Yeah, they're so good. That Travis cover is really good. And the Tom Petty one is better than Tom Petty's. I played it for Tim Balz, who's a big... Walls? Yeah, Walls.

I think it's better than Tom Petty's version. I don't... I like that one Tom Petty version, the big kind of... The circus version is my favorite. But I love the Glen Campbell one too. Okay. Whatever you say. But there's that other version that pops up more often that's not as good.

You're a more often. But also another part of Jimmy Webb is he tends to mention a lot of like Western towns. Like Wichita Linemen, Galveston uh let me play a little galveston oh that's a great one you hear the horns the strings Oh, Galveston I still hear your sea winds blowin' I still see her dark eyes glowin' So this record's sound, and sort of lyrically in a way, is meant to evoke the old Jimmy Webb style,

way is meant to evoke uh the old jimmy webb style um which is interesting to hear springo working in a different style yeah it's cool um so uh it's a whole album sort of produced like that and written like that and we're gonna listen to it when we come back and we're just truly squeaking this one out and um when we come back we're going to squeak out our thoughts about each track of uh western stars this is you spring and springsteen on my bean we'll be right back after this. It's a better song with me doing that over it, right? I think it's like 90% better. It's like a good

remix. You should do that with all their songs um welcome back you spring and springsteen on my being yeah squeaking one out about western stars today um and uh adam do you remember getting this record when it came out yeah i i do but i don't think i really listen to it that much interesting Interesting. Did you listen to it prior to- Today? Today? Yes. Okay, good.

Did you do your homework, little boy? I sure did. Let's get to it. I think an essential part of understanding these songs is watching the Western Stars movie. I did not watch the movie. I did, and I'll kind of take you through everything I learned when I watched it. But Springo calls this album, the theme is the struggle between individual freedom and communal life. He started talking about how the American impulse is to roam and be free and to travel and not be held down to one thing.

And yet having a family and being tied down to things is also a hugely important part of happiness. And the conflict between those two things is what he was interested in exploring. The two sides of the American character, as he calls it, transient and solitary versus collective and communal. In search of deep roots and a home where the heart will reside is what he talks about.

You seem dubious. No, it's interesting. I don't know how much I connect with that, but let's see as we listen to the songs. Okay, so this is track one. And this is, again, this is not a style that Springo has really worked in. So if this is your first time hearing it, it may be a shock. I hope you are sitting down. I hope you have a medical professional over at your place.

Yeah, you really need to just brace yourself. Make sure they're taking your pulse during this. This is Hitchhike, and this is by Bruce Springsteen. So I'm stuck out as I go I'm just traveling up the road Maps don't do much for me, friend I follow the weather and the wind I'm hitchhiking all day long

Got what I can carry in my song I'm a rolling stone just rolling on I'm a rolling stone, just roll it on. Catch me now, cause tomorrow I'll be gone. Family man gives me a ride.

Got his pregnant Sally at his side. ride God's pregnant Sally at his side S&D Sir Children are a gift Thank you kindly for the lift

I'm hitchhiking Thank you kindly for the lift. I'm hitchhiking all day long. Hitchhiking, Adam. Do you think Rolling Stone was excited when he mentioned them? Yes. Five stars. Five stars. Hey hey even if you didn't mention it but then they gave this four stars so maybe it dinged him a little bit i guess so you're pandering yes at this point um this to me is sort of like the overture in a way like it's it's him

establishing the theme of kind of an announcement yeah of like hey because this is just purely a song about a hitchhiker who's like i don't want to be tied down to one place it's kind of like to me like oh what a beautiful morning is in oklahoma where it's like there's no plot moving forward it's just purely like the main character comes out and goes it's beautiful here in oklahoma this is this is what's happening yep just uh totally totally setting the scene. But I think the melody is haunting and really pretty. Yeah, it's a really pretty song. And just suddenly, you know, it's very acoustic with just kind of, I'm not sure if that's a glockenspiel doing the little dings. It definitely is.

Glockenspiel expert out of Scott here. But then suddenly the orchestra comes in. Yeah, it's really nice yeah so uh a table setter but a really gorgeous one i think um gorgeous says scott ackerman yeah i don't call too many things gorgeous it's not what i hear what have i called uh what haven't you called gorgeous i mean yeah i've said you know my wife is gorgeous my baby girl is gorgeous oh i've heard you say quite a few other things adam scott pre 2014 gorgeous um okay let's hear track two this is a song called The Wayfarer.

This is by Bruce Springsteen. It's the same sad story Love and glory Going round and round It's the same old cliche Wanderer on his way Slipping from town to town. Some fine piece here on the sweet streets, the sweet streets of home. Where kindness falls and your heart calls for a permanent place of your own.

I'm away favorite baby, I drift from town to town When everyone's asleep And the midnight bells sound The wheels are hissing Up the highway spinning Round and round You start out slow and sweet The Wayfarer, Adam.

I like it. Listen to this one. Oh, yeah. So, sounds great. I think a fantastic melody production. It is another table table setting song. Uh-huh. Yeah, it is.

So here's like my first few times listening to the record. Because the first one's about a hitchhiker. This one's about a wayfarer. Yeah. Not that much different. Yeah. And there's not a lot happening other than him just describing, I like to go out and roam America.

That's why I thought his like summation of what the theme of the album is is a little thin no it doesn't but i think it gets there here's the here's the difference is uh so my my whole point is why two of these songs other than they're both great yeah because they're both saying the exact same thing which is just like the american spirit is to go out and roam the first few times i heard this album i was sort of like so is this just total pastiche right like with just a bunch of american cliches um that's sort of the the issue with having two of these songs in a row um i was just kind of like oh okay so he's just he's doing jimmy webb production and he's talking about american cliches of like i like to be out

on the road i like to yeah though i don't i don't feel like the production is a total pastiche i feel like he's doing something interesting with it it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like completely retro to me i mean there are a couple of songs that are definitely influenced by certain songs right but but i but but that was just my opinion the first couple of times i heard it i was like so maybe he's not saying anything with this sure um and it's i think because both of those songs are back to back but you can't put the wayfarer anywhere else because it's not saying anything so if it's like track eight it's kind of going back it's going backwards yeah so that that's my only so you would drop the wayfarer probably but i like both of them yeah me too

they're both great melodies so i'm not sure okay so let's go to track three then i like how clean the it's not like the strings and stuff are syrupy it's not like there's a lot of reverb on it. Yeah, it's really clean. Everything's out in front. It actually reminds me of the cover to the album. It's a picture of a horse. That's a photo I actually took. Holy shit, really? Where'd you get the horse?

It's my horse that I bring with me wherever I go. To all photo shoots in case they want to... Yeah, in case they want to... Yeah. In case they want to turn around and snap some pics. Hmm, interesting. But you know how most traditional, when you think of like Western imagery, it's all at sunset.

Yeah. And, you know, there's reds and shadows and stuff. This is like the brightest daylight picture of a horse yeah like it's it's uh like kind of western imagery so bright like unlike that you're used to seeing it and the movie is sort of like that too where it's like it all feels like it was shot at sunrise rather than sunset and everything is the movie just a performance of yeah pretty much but it's him talking about each song okay so let's hear uh track three this is tucson train this is by bruce springsteen I got so down and out in Fresco

Tired of the pills and the rain I picked up pity for the sunshine I left a good thing behind Seemed all of our love was in vain Now my baby's coming in the Tucson train I come here looking for a new life One I wouldn't have to explain That voice that keeps me awake at night

One little piece that'd make everything right If I could just turn off my brain But now my baby's coming in on the Tucson train We fought hard over nothing We fought till nothing remained I've carried that nothing for a long time I think this one is one of the more Glenn Campbell-y. Totally. I was just going to say that. Yeah.

Well, I beat you to it. Yeah, you said it before I did. Yeah. It's not a competition, though. You could say it right now. Do you want to say it? I will say it's not a competition, but I will say it only if I'm in first place. Okay, you can.

I'll edit me saying it out okay great okay go ahead what you want to say something adam yeah i feel like this is really evocative of kind of directly evocative of glenn campbell more than anything else so far i totally disagree really yeah but you just said never mind um spring spring oh has talked about uh this is about a guy trying to change i think i think until you hear the bridge you don't really get that because it's all about like a guy like hey i am i've been roaming i didn't want to be tied down but now my baby's coming on the tucson train then he he talks about how they just used to fight all the time. Yeah.

But now he's changed. He's established himself. I don't know, but he's changed. He's apologized, it seems like. And now she's coming in on the Tucson train. Yeah. I like just how optimistic this song is. Yeah.

I really like this song a lot. I love the Glen Campbell-ness of it, but I also love that it's still very cleanly produced. It doesn't sound like full spectory at all, which sometimes to me gets a little muddy. Well, that's the intent of it usually, is to make all the instruments bleed together. But the Tucson train though, not a, I mean, is it a period piece?

This is what I was trying to parse as I was listening to it. Is it a period piece where everyone's traveling by train or is it? I don't know. But I will say the romance of traveling by train. Have you ever traveled by train for a significant amount of yeah like i took a three-day trip to milwaukee okay so you know what i'm talking about when i say it's not awesome no it sucks yeah um i love being on a train and i i wish it was more fun than it is doing like the tour in between tour stops,

like going from Portland to Seattle. Oh yeah. Yeah. That kind of stuff. For sure. That's always fun. But like going from here to San Diego. Great.

Like a, like a four hour train trip. Love it. Yeah. Three days. A hundred percent. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Having like having to sleep overnight on a, yeah, on a train is it's, it's tough. It just is very, a very musical phrase. Like my baby's coming on the Tucson train, but if it It just is a very musical phrase, like, my baby's coming

on the Tucson train. But if it's set now, it's like, why is she on a train and why is she going to Tucson? Why don't you just get her a plane ticket? Yeah,

just get her an Uber for God's sake. Yeah. But I think this is the first one where it's like sort of about, not just about like, hey, I want to roam everywhere. It's about some sort of problem in the relationship, which I think this is the first one where it's like sort of about, not just about like, hey, I want to roam everywhere.

It's about some sort of problem in the relationship, which I think is good. Okay, let's go to track four. This is what Springo has said is the heart of the record. This is a song called Western Stars by Bruce Springsteen. Huh. I wake up in the morning Just glad my boots are on Instead of emptying the whispering grasses

Down the five-foot forest lawn On the set the naked girl brings me Two raw eggs and a shot of gin Then I give it all up for that little blue pill That promises to bring it all back to you again Write me down easy Ride me down easy, friend Tonight the western stars are shining bright again

Here in the canyons above sunset Thank you. Some lost sheep from Oklahoma Sips her mojito down at the whiskey bar Smiles and says she thinks she remembers me from that Commercial with a credit card Ellie's days are ain't no more Now there's just a gift. Tonight the western stars are shining bright again. Western stars, Adam. It's a song about an old western film star

watching the world change around him and pass him by. He's doing Viagra commercials Hence the blue pill The blue pill sitting in the makeup chair All of his friends are dead. They're in Forest Lawn off the 5, but he's waking

up with his boots still on. It kind of reminds me of Tom Selleck doing reverse mortgage commercials You ever got a reverse mortgage adam oh man i i speak from experience uh when i uh trying to get uh uh some some of my family members out of uh i don't know what a reverse mortgage is it's is it what sank our entire financial system a few years ago no but it's what uh totally sinks a lot of old people's financial uh situations it's essentially like

the equity in your home like you buy a home usually and you mortgage you pay the money yeah every month yeah uh what this does is it takes the equity and goes like no no we'll pay you so you get a paycheck every month from your house from the equity in your house and then when you sell your house you're left with nothing oh boy uh so they end up getting more money than you yes um is that what that's what tom selick uh is on tv constantly hawking and and talking to to supposedly real people who are going it's the best decision i ever made um weird guy tom selleck anyway uh but it's so uh one one quote from the song one of the lyrics these days there ain't no more now there's just again meaning like he ain't no more. Now there's just again,

meaning like he's not having any new experiences. There's just like the same ones again and again. What do you think, Adam? Well, I like it a lot. And a reason for that is I feel like it could be, it seems like,

you know, on every Bruce Springsteen album from Tunnel of Love on, there's like one of these songs where it's really spare and slow and just kind of telling a story which really works incredibly well sometimes sometimes not as much but this has the freedom to go into a country space that i really really like when it kind of the pedal steel and the kind of bass being a little more prominent really kind of lets itself be that. And I really like it. And I like that for me makes it its own unique thing.

I feel like the song is really about himself. Oh, yeah, probably. I feel like as we've talked about with Wrecking Ball, he suddenly realized that rock music is no longer the dominating force of music and and he is not part of the cultural conversation anymore he's as interested in anymore and you know how westerns used to be the most popular genre in the world and suddenly then boom they were gone yeah and um i feel like that's how he feels about what he's doing a little bit is, you know, this is about an old washed up guy kind of telling his stories. He's talking about the time John Wayne shot him in a movie and he gets a lot

of free drinks from it, but you know, not, he's not able to ever do, you know, he's, he's not able to act again. Yeah.

Other than these Viagra commercials. I don't know. It's great, but he's glad he, he reiterates, he's glad his boots are still on. Like he's still. Yeah.

That he's still alive. Yeah. Cool song. It's depressing. It is a cool song. And great melody. Yeah. Um,

all right. So far so good. So far so good. Western stars. Let's go to track five. This is Sleepy Joe's Cafe by Bruce Springsteen. Whoops. No,

this is the other song. The one we just did. I have to press play on Sleepy Joe's Cafe. Is that what you have to do? Yeah. Okay, here we go. This is Sleepy Joe's Cafe. Here's a place out on the highway Close to San Bernardino Law Where the truckers and the bikers

Gather every night at the same time At seven the band comes in And locals dance the night away At Sleepy Joe's Cafe I drive on down from the big town Friday when the clock strikes five There's a red sunset in the ocean I start to come alive

Some old girls in the parking lot Slap on their makeup And they float the night away Sleepy Joe's Cafe. Sure. sure this is supposedly about a bar when he was living in la it's up in like the santa monica mountains sleepy joes i i think he's fictionalizing a bar that he used to go to he he would get on his motorcycle and and ride up the mountains to like a biker and trucker bar and he would hang out there, which is fine. I don't need to hear a song about it. I like the kind of Zydeco feeling to it.

It's nice. It feels like it's a total just like, hey, let's put a fun song in the middle of it that's not saying anything, but I could take it or leave it. Yeah, me too. I could probably leave it. Yeah. All right, this is track six.

This is Drive Fast, parentheses, The Stuntman. What? And parentheses by Bruce Springsteen. What? What? I got two pins in my ankle and a busted collarbone Steel rot in my leg but it walks me home At night I climbed high into the bowels of our neighborhood's tallest tree I don't remember the fear, just the breeze

Dry, fast, fall hard Keep you in my heart Don't worry about tomorrow Don't mind the scars Just drive fast, fall hard At 19, Isaac came Drive fast. I like it. The stunt try fast i like it the stuntman i like it he talks about how this is about the fearlessness the character has a fearlessness to do his job but also to love someone uh i think he's using the scars that a stuntman has and all the broken pieces as a metaphor for their hearts,

him and the protagonist's loved one. He talks later about getting the broken pieces to fit together, which I think is a theme that he's really talked about before of like, he kind of feels like he's a broken person and he kind of found Patty and their whatever brokenness between them just fit together really well any thoughts uh i i yeah i like it i think that's uh i think that's lovely what do you think do you like the song yeah yeah musically i think it's a really great melody kind of reminds me of the wrestler in a way yes like yeah uh same kind of metaphor yes i feel like um but uh did you like that movie the

yeah i did very powerful the todd berry film the wrestler yes okay this is uh track i'm gonna guess His track, I'm going to guess seven. I mean, you could probably look and see which track. Well, I'm on, I'd have to go to Wikipedia. Oh, Jesus. Here. Yep, seven. This is Chasing Wild Horses by Bruce Springsteen. Guess it was something I shouldn't have done Guess I regret it now

Ever since I was a kid Trying to keep my temper down Chasing wild horses Chasing wild horses Chasing wild horses Left my home, left my friends I didn't say goodbye I contract out to BLM

Upon the Montana line Chasing wild horses Chasing wild horses Chasing wild horses We're out before sun In after sundown There's two men in the chopper Two under saddle on the ground In theings we hop

In the pickup Headin' to town For a drink Make sure I work Till I'm so damn tired Way too tired To think You lose track Chasing wild horses.

You get the banjo here, the Muppet Show banjo. Muppet Show. Reminds me of Rainbow Connection. Oh, yeah. I like the song. My thing is, I wonder if wild horses, as a metaphor in songs, is a little overdone. He says this song is about the older you get, the heavier the baggage you haven't sorted through gets. And the heavier the cost of that. Running away is leaving everything you've loved and that loves you behind.

But yeah, I know what you mean remember that other song you sang about a horse a few albums back it was like which one was that i forget but it's like yeah we get it you own a big huge ranch and you have horses you have have several horses. And your daughter rides horses. But I do like the melody. I find myself singing it randomly here and there. Here's some wild horses. Oh, that sounds gorgeous. Okay, let's go to, this is track eight.

This is Sundown by Bruce Springsteen. I'm 2,500 miles from where I want to be It feels like a hundred years since you've been near to me I guess what goes around baby comes around Just wishing you were here with me In the sundown Sundown ain't the kind of place you wanna be on your own

It's all long night endless days and cold nights all alone I drift from bar to bar Here in lonely town Just wishing you were here with me Come sundown It's sundown, the cafe is filled with lovers' past It's getting very Roy Orbison-y up in this. Yeah, and very Jimmy Webb, too. Yeah, this is super Jimmy Webb.

Roy Orbison in terms of the melody and also the sha-la-la-la's in the back, which are more pronounced on the concert version, by the way. He tells a story about, is this a town called sundown i don't think so i'm not sure though but he but he tells a story about having a broken heart i feel like this is in the 70s and then moving out to california and trying to get over it um and just like being a lonely dude out in california in California trying to get over heartbreak. I think he's writing about that a little bit. It's poppy in that Jimmy Webb way.

What do you think, Adam? I think it's awesome. Yeah. I like it a lot. I like this album a lot. Okay. All right. Good to know.

So far. Okay. So we'll see what happens. We're like three quarters of the way through, but we'll see. And it doesn't take any wild left turns from here on out. Okay. Let's go to track nine. This is a true shorty that he squeaked out.

This is Somewhere North of Nashville. This is by Bruce Springsteen. Came in town with a pocket full of songs. I made the rounds, but I didn't last long. Now I'm out

on this highway with a bone cold chill Somewhere north of Nashville I lie awake in the middle of the night Making a list of things that I didn't do right With you at the top of a long page fill it's somewhere north of Nashville this is such a shorty I gotta burst in right here because it's under two minutes short and curly yeah um he says he wrote this very quickly at the kitchen table in the morning

and it's about a person who's lost where pain feels like home. It feels when pain feels more familiar to you than love. I think this is a recurring theme in his. I mean, he does talk about his entire emotional past being where he would push you away if he loved you. And I think a lot of these characters are sort of going through that. It's like, no, I push you away.

Cause I'm a, I'm an American. I'm a, uh, a roaming vagabond. I'm, I'm a person who does what he wants. And a lot of these characters are realizing their mistakes towards the end

of their lives. Uh, what do you think, Adam? I think it's pretty, I think it's pretty. I think it's pretty. I don't know that I would put it on the record. Yeah, I don't think it's essential.

It's a 51-minute record. I'd take three songs off, maybe. Sure. This would be one of them, but I like it. Yeah. Maybe a B-side, though. Mm-hmm. All right, let's go to then track 10.

This is a song called Stones. is by bruce springsteen whoa i woke up this morning With stones in my mouth Said those were only the lies you've told me Those are only the lies you've told me I pulled my collar to the wind And spit them on the ground You said those are only the lies you've told me

Those are only the lies you've told me You said on the edge of our bed in the sun I felt them gather on my tongue I woke up this morning With stones in my mouth I like this song. This is a really pretty one. One of the better melodies, I think, on the record.

The metaphor, the stones. Okay, this is how he explains it. He says, Lies will devour everything you have and everything you ever will love, everything you ever will have. Faith grows your garden of love and lies will try to make a fool out of all the things you have. Because in this garden of love, all you have is stones if you lie. Yeah, I think it's a great melody it's really nice you know when I when I hear the song title

stones I think of the Neil Diamond 70s hit stones uh what song is that I don't know no stones no do you not wait is this an episode do you not know yeah Hey everyone, welcome to Do You Not Know Stones? This is Scott. And this is Scott. And this is the show where one of us doesn't know about stones. Yeah. It's not, by the way, you pop in my stones. No, no, no, that's a different show. Totally different, great show.

Different hosts. Different hosts we love. But this is kind of me introducing Adam to the song Stones. Yeah. What is this song? All right, let's hear it. I don't know it. Let's hear it.

Stones would play Inside her head And where she slept They made her bed And she would ache For love and get good stones La la la la la la la la la la Lordy child I mean, this is the kind of...

This was a hit? It's one of his... I mean, he was making so many hits back then. Yeah, it was a hit but um not one of his like i like the bruce springsteen one a little better but i like neil diamond is fucking awesome by the way it's just interesting to have two songs called stones that are in the same sort of musical genre yeah you know which is uh and not the same song and not the same metaphor i've always wondered i i used we used to play this in my old band this song the real diamond one yeah so i always wondered

what he's talking about like what is the metaphor stones like is it the rolling stones would play inside her head i don't know um i should look it up because probably there must be someone out there who explains it better than i back then everyone called them the stones by the way um okay we'll see you bye bye wow i think one of the hosts had forgotten that that was an episode of a podcast all right, we're back to our show. This is you springing Springsteen on my bean. And let's go to, this is track 11. This is There Goes My Miracle by Bruce Springsteen. Sunrise, sundown The street's gone golden brown

Harbor skies above I'm searching for my love Searching for my love. Searching for my love. There goes my miracle. Walking away. Walking away. Walking away There goes my miracle Walking away

Walking away Moonlight There goes my miracle. Not to be confused with counting on a miracle. Or, hey, who took my miracle with? Yeah. I think in the 70s this is a huge hit. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's awesome.

I think it's weird how late in the album. Yeah, I know, because it sounds like a big single. Yeah. It should be like number two on the album. Like when you met Naomi and she was your new number two. He talks about how this is about throwing away the best thing you've ever had. He's using miracle as it's not in a religious way but more just about the miracle of love um yeah roy orbison again this kind of actually reminds me of like some of the songs on around

the sun the rem no not not around the sun which one am i thinking of the the really poppy like 2000 era one oh reveal, Reveal? Yeah, Reveal. Yeah. This album kind of reminds me of Reveal a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah. I like it.

But it is late in the track list. Okay. Let's go to, this is second to last song. This is track 12. This is Hello, Sunshine. Hello. By Bruce Springsteen. Everybody's talking.

Yeah, Harry Nilsson is another one. For the rain For the rain and skies of gray Hello sunshine won't you stay You know I always like my walking shoes But you can get a little too fond of the blues You walk too far, you walk away Hello sunshine, won't you stay away Hello sunshine won't you stay

I mean this is the theme of the album Why isn't this the first song on the album? Yeah interesting that would have said exactly or at least the second after like yeah after Hitchhiking yeah it's saying exactly what he's trying to say.

Yeah, and it's, I think, maybe the best song on the album. It's perfect. Yeah, I mean, he... It's the second-to-last song. There's a case to be made for it being the last song, about it summing up everything that we've talked about. I think there's a case to be made for us to resequence this.

Yeah. It's a weirdly sequenced album. Yeah. He talks about you fall in love with lonely. You'll end up that way. This is the theme of the album. Restlessness versus home. Yeah.

He says, I fell too, like too in love with his one. You know, I've loved my wandering shoes, but I fell a little too in love with the blues. You know, he's just talking. Is that one of the lyrics?

Yeah, yeah. You know, it's just like about someone who, like, is pushing away everything because he's like, no, I'm an individualist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cool song. Great song. Okay, so this is the last track, and this is, I don't know, this is maybe one of my favorite songs. This is a song called Moonlight Motel.

This is by Bruce Springsteen. There's a place on a blank stretch of road Where nobody travels, nobody goes And the desk man says these days round here Well, two young folks could probably up and disappear In the rustling sheets of sleepy Corner room Into the musty smell Of wilted flowers

And lazy afternoon hours At the moonlight motel Moonlight Motel That's just the first verse. Yeah. We can talk about it. So this is... Now, why is it your favorite song, Made? Just the more... Okay, so hearing him talk about it.

First of all, I think it's a great melody. Yeah, it is. But then the story so the story of it is about an older man who had some sort of romantic connection at this hotel in the past uh-huh um we'll talk about exactly what the nature of that connection could be um but he doesn't really specify but it's like he used to go to this hotel in the middle of nowhere uh with a woman and now he comes back to it and it's closed and it's overgrown obviously the woman is not part of his life anymore whether she's dead or whether they just never were able to get together

and make it work. But she's gone and he just kind of like feels the pull of this hotel where they had all of their connections. He goes back to it, sees it's closed down, pours out a little liquor.

So I don't know. I think it's a cool story. But then hearing him talk about it i think he's technically he he makes no bone he doesn't even talk about the the character or the antagonist when he talks about this song he purely just tells a story about him and patty which is when they were getting together they had had to sneak around and not be seen together. So they would get together on this park bench across the street from the Empire Diner in New York. And they would just like meet there.

And he would bring like beer in a paper bag. And they would just like sit on this bench and talk for hours. and they would just like sit on this bench and talk for hours. And that's what led to them getting together. And then he proposed to her there. And then they also like took their son there and it may not be there anymore. But, uh, yeah,

it's like the hotel is a metaphor for like where they got together. You know, I don't know. I think it's a really cool interesting song he's sort of singing about his own relationship that's what leads me to think that it's maybe a tryst that he's having uh-huh there there's one lyric where he you know he talks about the the uh you know your lipstick taste and your whispered secret i promised i'd never tell um a half-dr drunk beer and your breath in my

ear at the moonlight motel but then he talks about well then it's bills and kids and kids and bills so maybe they do get together in just family life yeah wears them out or maybe it they have a great family life and she's passed away now i don't't know. There's a lot of like interpretations to it, but I think it's a, it's a great way to close the album. Yeah. It's a, it's a really nice song. All right.

That's Western stars. So for me, I think sleepy Joe's cafe somewhere North of Nashville, I think is that super quick song. I would maybe, even though I like it, I would take off the wayfarer too. Cause it's just

kind of saying the same thing it's yeah i would i can i would too except it's a strong it's a good song i know i would just drop it later in the album i think and then move up uh hello sunshine maybe i think hello sunshine sunshine and there goes my mirror i think yeah hello sunshine there Maybe I think Hello Sunshine and There Goes My Miracle. I think, yeah, Hello Sunshine, There Goes My Miracle, Tucson Train. Those are so strong. Maybe they're, I think those are, Hello Sunshine is number two. There Goes My Miracle is number three. Yeah. So, I mean, I definitely not a like masterpiece.

I feel, I sometimes feel like the album dips like i've talked about a little bit into pastiche where it's um he's not doing something new with it necessarily but it's new to him but it's really good i mean it's like uh it's weird that it's 2010, 2014, and then 2018 is when he recorded this. It's kind of all over the place, but it feels more cohesive than anything he's made in a while. It definitely feels like he had, he had most of these songs over the years.

Maybe he recorded the bulk of them in 2010 and 2014, and then was like, oh, this old song would work with it. And he just kind of like figured out what he was trying to say. But I think it's cool. I think it's, check out the movie. The movie is essentially, he didn't want to tour with this record

because to do it justice, I think you need a 30-piece orchestra in addition to a band. So he, instead of touring with it, he just filmed this concert in his barn on his place at New Jersey where they would have weddings and stuff like this. It's a big barn, sounds great. And so they just film a concert of them doing these songs.

It's in the exact same order, but it also has Springo talking about each song and what it means um and they're like the strings are a little more prevalent in the mix i would say on the in the live version yeah i was gonna ask how different those versions are the orchestra is definitely like way more front and center and i think the backing vocals like he full-on just duets with patty on stones and moonlight motel oh cool which i think are both about her yeah so it's cool to see them just like yeah duetting on the same mic you know which i guess they didn't have enough mics or something but she's like sharing his well they can't afford

yeah it's a 30 piece orchestra you gotta yeah you gotta cut costs where you can um but then they also close it with rhinestone cowboy oh that's cool which i don't know if you want to hear that yes here we go one two three four i've been walking these streets so long singing the same old song I know every crack in the dirty sidewalks of Broadway Where hustle's

the name of the game And nice guys get washed away like the snow and the rain There's been a load of compromising on the roads of my horizon But I'm gonna be

where the lights are shining on me Like a rhinestone cow But now I'm a horse in a star-span rodeo Like a rhinestone cowboy That's pretty great. Yeah, and it's with the orchestra doing it right behind him. It's pretty cool.

It's cool. I mean, hearing these songs with the orchestra live instead of sort of tastefully there in the mix yeah yeah it's cool it's kind of thrilling i always felt like mid-period rem was very jimmy webb inspired like automatic and out of time yeah era a lot of the songwriting yeah they in fact do that cover, right, of Wichita Line. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's Western Stars. What do we think, Adam?

I think it's a terrific album. I'm so glad we did it. Yeah, because- Had you never really connected with it? I listened to it and I was always like not listening to the lyrics all that much. Yeah. So I always just thought it was like Western cliches. Me too.

I just never really gave it the time. And I had watched that movie back in the day, but I remember the experience of like throwing it on and then making dinner while I had it on. So not really paying attention to it all that much. So really hearing him talk about the songs and diving deep into the lyrics, I grew a bigger appreciation for

it um and hearing it like 10 times over the last few days while i was preparing for this episode yeah it's really good yeah it's really good all right i'm glad we did this me too all right next week it's our final episode final ep for a while probably um we're going to be talking about letter to you next week. Yeah. And that's, uh, that's that we're not going to cover the other record that he did after that. Oh, right.

Probably until, you know, down the line, maybe I haven't even listened to that one. I have. Um, but let's close it out, uh,

with a song that came out this year that western stars came out um this was on the soundtrack to blinded by the light which was a movie sort of about using spring scene songs in it and he put out a unreleased track which weirdly enough he wrote as a submission to be um in harry potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. And they didn't use it. We'll maybe find out why as we take it out, but this is I'll Stand By You. But until next time, we hope that you have found what you're looking for.

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