U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head? - 77

Episode Date: July 15, 2020

Adam Scott Aukerman start to discuss RHCP's "The Uplift Mofo Party Plan," when something unexpected happens.

From From Aeroplane to the Zephyr Song, this is R-U-Talking, R-H-C-P-D-E? The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Red Hot Chili Peppers. This is good rock and roll music i like the idea of are you talking rhcp to me p to me is it rhcp to me or remy oh it's remy isn't it should i start over it can be to me i don't give a no let's start flying, isn't it? Should I start over? It can be to me. I don't give a flying God.

No, let's start over. Here we... No, no, no. Really? We'll start over. Yeah, here we go. Okay, we're starting over. Because I got the name of the show wrong,

so we need to make sure that it's absolutely right. Perfectionists. Of course. If nothing else. And I think nothing else and i think nothing else from um aerosmith no oh my god from aerosmith should the show be about aerosmith instead i was just thinking the yesterday should it should we have done talking heads instead because i was listening to those you know pitchfork reviewed those first five albums oh yeah i was like wow these are great albums yeah they're amazing i

would rather i would rather be doing that but you would rather do you would you want to do the red out chili peppers you're the person who said like oh i don't know we should do the red out chili pepper well the chili peppers i mean i i like a lot of the chili peppers but also they have a great story they have a great like yeah but we didn't even enjoy the last episode well that's true but it's also like their first couple yeah but should we just do a like a talking heads one i i would rather do a talking heads show quite honestly really yes because i'm wet no i'm being completely honest i kind of would would you would you switch to the talking heads if or i'm sorry i keep saying that talking heads would you switch to talking heads if we did hold on is this an episode of you talking talking heads to my talking head

i think it might be hmm From E to Zimbra, this is you talking, talking heads to my talking head. The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things talking heads. This is good rock and roll music. Hey. Wow. Okay, so here we go welcome to the show i guess we're i guess this is what we're doing i i am am i'm way more comfortable doing this i think so that's i think i am too no disrespect but i think this is maybe a little more in in the pocket as they say that's right have you heard that before that expression i've never heard that before what does that mean is that like when you're like stewart little you know traveled around in the pocket of some of his

grown-up that is where the expression originally came from like the root of the expression is from stewart little in not the book but the movie from Michael J Fox movie yeah Michael J Fox movie Stuart Little wait is this I Love Films this is I Love Films yes hey everyone welcome to I Love Films this is is Scott. And this is Scott. And today we're talking about cinema. Cinema. Cinema. Cinema. That's right. Some of the greats. You have... I'm trying to think of a name. And by cinema, we mean Michael J. Fox movies.

That's right. So you have Secret of My Success, cinema. Number one of all of them, by far, is Secret of My Success, Life with Mikey. Life with Mikey is bringing up the rear like the human caterpillar. That's right. And meanwhile, with its mouth on the butt. Meanwhile, Life with Mikey is shitting in the mouth of doc hollywood doc hollywood it's right there doc hollywood and then light of day what oh right in the middle that's right that is lucky pierre right there but today we are talking about stewart little and that's you were saying

something interesting before the show adam what were you were you saying? Well, what I was saying on the other program is that in the pocket, the expression in the pocket, its root causation in the nomenclature of modern American life is the movie of Stuart Little, where Stuart gets stuffed into the pocket and he suffocates and he dies. All right, we'll see you next time. Thanks, bye. Bye.

Pretty good. Yeah, I mean, I would say a darker ending than usual for all the films. And those guys seem like big human centipede fans. Really into it like comparing but one of them said human caterpillar didn't he yeah but that's a different movie that's a whole other thing okay that's interesting um welcome to the show this is episode one episode one of you talking talking heads to my talking head um and very excited to be doing this

we're going to be exploring all uh that there is about the talking heads now admittedly we're not prepared to do this first episode but i would imagine today we will be uh talking about the talking heads or talking heads rather a seminal debut album talking heads colon 77 that is what we're gonna do right here did that come out do you think i don't know there's no way to know i think it was approximately 201 years after 1776 okay so like the mid 80s somewhere like that yeah um i am your host scott ackerman you may know me from comedy bang bang uh the podcast or the tv show director of the between two ferns movie the other stuff uh the host of this show you might know me from this exclusively um but i do want to introduce my co-host uh he is he's an actor of course but uh he also is a producer he's produced a couple of

movies that are uh pretty good one in which he showed his real penis uh called the overnight and uh also uh uh uh the other one is uh oh i love that movie what was it called uh the um with jesse plemons and uh other people other people love that movie great movie so you were a producer on that did not act in it no acting in that one no acting in that one and is acting would you describe acting as your first love would you say i have so many loves you love like like, inarguably, you love your wife. Inarguably. No one would argue with that if you presented it as a fact to a series of people.

No one. Say there were some sort of, like, a scopes trial. Right. And it was all based on, does Adam love his wife? That's right. And you got some small-town country lawyer to come in, fanning himself with a newspaper. That's right. And you got some small town country lawyer to come in, fanning himself with a newspaper. It's too hot.

All the windows are opened. There's a fan in the corner, but it's doing no good. It's hot in there. Absolutely no good. And there's a bunch of common sense folk there, ready to hear your side of it. They would leave the courtroom saying they proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that Adam Scott, as a man,

and as a human being on this earth, definitely loves his wife. I object, Your Honor. Wait, now you're the other lawyer? No, I'm just saying, just giving you a picture of what's going on in the court. And then the judge, a couple times, he has to bang that gavel and tell the prosecution to take it easy. He's walking a fine line.

Oh, definitely. It's acceptable, but watch out. But I think inarguably, if you had 12 of our peers, our jurors, inarguably, you would have to say that I have love for my wife, for my children, inarguably you would have to say that i have love for my wife for my children inarguably but they're they're not your first loves before your children were ever just a gleam in your nutsack you you and that and that is how you consider them right that's right ding you before you ever even thought like hey i'll have sex with naomi today on the days that they were conceived you first fell in love with acting acting acting acting it was those those were the three on the list and i gotta say those first two got knocked out by uh my wife and kids but listen acting is sure is always that's why i always say top three that's what it's all about top three

top three act you've you've always said it's your first love but in terms of things you love it's top three top three so it used to be number one it was the first thing you ever loved yep did you love it before your science teacher asked you that masturbation question and you loved masturbation so much yes is that number two that was that it was briefly replaced number one was briefly replaced for about i would say a good two or three years from like age i don't know 11 through 14 two or three years from like age, I don't know, 11 through 14, two or three years. Maybe I won't be a professional actor. I'll just be a professional masturbator.

It's like, wow, I'm getting a lot done. Very good at this. Well, wonderful. And, you know. That's why the first thing I ever said to Naomi was, now acting is number two. You saw her from across the room at that party was it uh uh it was at the captain fiddle was it not that's right and i walked right over and i said i said i have a new i have a new a new number two and then you that's what I said. Then he walks right into the bathroom.

I ran to the bathroom. And then about 10 minutes later, I came out. And I was like, as I was saying. Oh, man. Good shit. oh man good shit oh oh man welcome to the show welcome to the show by the way uh adam scott is here hello adam hi hi scott ah so first episode you talking talking heads to my talking head yeah and uh adam it's great to see you and yeah you're back in your closet and your closet of uh uh apparel and you're wearing i have to say you're wearing the exact same thing you were wearing our last episode am i you are you look like if uh the members of fr Ferdinand were convicts. Yep.

Because you're wearing like a scoop neck sort of a t-shirt and it has a black vertical stripes. No, they're horizontal. Sorry to say. What's a scoop neck? Well, I don't know whether that technically qualifies as a scoop, but it's definitely like a half a circle. You know? Like any opening at the top of a shirt well you know you have a v this is not a v-neck though i i'm saying the types of shirts oh sure there's a v-neck in the world yeah you know you know a v right you saw v for vendetta that's the first time i had seen a v but yes i've seen a v because i saw that movie it is really interesting

that the main protagonist of V for Vendetta is wearing a very deep V-neck the entire time, right below his Guy Fawkes mask. By the way, have you seen the Guy Fawkes style COVID mask that is? I did. Yes, I have seen that. You know, when i went to japan last year or the year before you know like a third of the public is wearing masks but they're they're all they all look like the medical issue surgical stuff right meanwhile i i walk around and i'm wearing like basically a bank robber's mask yeah the entire time that's what that's what it seems like and i can't help but like you can't smile at people right say i'm not a threat so you just look like you know a weirdo everyone looks like a a weirdo uh criminal who's gonna rob

you yeah at best that's why when i'm out walking the dog or whatever you have to go out of your way to like wave and yell hello just so people don't think you're grimacing at them. Yeah, you have to basically go out of your way to take off your mask, go up to them, say, I am not a threat right in their face. Just walk right up to them, pull your pants down, and say, I have a new number two. Okay, we are talking about Talking Heads, a great New York band from the from new york from from new york with the fifth character in a lot of movies and um we're going to be talking about

their debut album uh without any sort of um any sort of prep work at all uh none at all but i also think that we're both we would would you say you're a fan well we can also talk about this well fan is short for fanatic and so god you're right i yeah i definitely think that i'm a fan but um you know i we we take this job very seriously we are of course the comprehensive and encyclopedia compendium of all things talking heads and normally we like to do a lot of research and uh i mean we're kind of like uh you know musical detectives would you yeah would you not say yeah we're like the mickey spillane's mike hammer of uh of uh music podcasts okay so most most television detectives yeah their name is a gun.

Have you ever noticed that? No. So Magnum P.I. Magnum, okay, yeah. Who are some other detectives? Matt Houston? Simon and Simon? Well, Simon and Schuster is definitely a bookseller, so that may be the exception that proves the rule.

But I would imagine they've had a book about guns at one point. That's true yeah i'm gonna look up uh television detectives luther there you go luther luther mainly during the 50s 60s 70s and early 80s it seemed like every every guy was a was a name of a gun and i know kojak doesn't care the rockford files yeah god why why did i look they're peter gunn remington steel there we go remington there you go there you go peter gunn psych psych inspector montalbano uh the mod squad the mod squad oh colombo is colombo yeah of course colombo it's named after a gun but spencer for hire

spencer for hire spencer the spencer gun but but mike hammer is named and you're never going to believe this after a hammer like the hammer of a gun that's that's a good point it could be oh uh crockett and tubs there you go crorockett and Tubbs. There you go. Crockett and Tubbs. Or, I mean, other detectives who are named after parts of a gun. You have Barrel and Trigger and Handle. You have Gunpowder PI. Gunpowder PI.

Hello, ma'am. The name's Gunpowder. Gunpowder PI.powder, P.I. Can I come in? But yeah, it's Mike Hammer is, if he's not named after the part of the gun, and he's just named after a hammer,

he's not even named after a brand of a hammer. Are there hammer brands? Oh yeah, there's all different kinds. Craftsmen. Okay, so say we're on a game show right and look you've hosted a game show so you know these things inside and out that's right but we're on a game show and and they come to me and they say okay your partner is adam scott how many hammer brands do you think he can name off the top of his head and then we go into a name that tune style

name off the top of his head and then we go and do a name that tune style back and forth with the other team and it finally gets to me and i say adam name three hammer brands that are not craftsmen right can you do it and we're by the way we're gonna win thirteen thousand dollars thirteen thousand okay yeah i could do that i could do this does remind me of the game show i'm hosting called don't which is that by the way that the title of that show is that what you should have said when they asked you to host that or no no what your agent what um top three reynolds uh uh davidson and the third one oh uh strawberry okay because daryl strawberry had a uh a gun hammer company ran it into the ground so it's probably not on google or anything wait you're doing gun hammer brands yeah oh are you talking about hammers normal hammers yeah yeah let me see if i could do it off the top of my head you probably have a stanley stht 51 304

you could do a stiletto tools incorporated tb1 5ms maybe a maxcraft 60626. Wow, you're really rattling these off. Probably an S-Wing E3 16s. Stanley 51106. You're forgetting the Tecton 30403, though. I mean, I wasn't forgetting to it. I think I was getting to it. Oh, sorry, man. Not forgetting, but getting. Of course, you have the original pink box pb12 hm the original pink box oh well that's as everyone knows the best hammer of course best hammer overall i would say a stanley 20 ounce fat max extreme claw but maybe if you're if you're looking for a soft face hammer probably a von and bushnell 12 ounce soft face hammer the best titanium If you're in the market for titanium, you probably want to go Stiletto, T-Bone. Sure.

15-ounce titanium mace milled face. Mm-hmm. Probably. Or if you're framing something, an Estwing 25-ounce big blue framing hammer probably is where you want to go. Are you in the market to frame anything, sir? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm working on a new frame for just an add-on to my friend's house. I know the most expensive hammer is a Picard's Carpenter's Roofing Hammer, but you don't really need that. I would go down with the Colbar Hammer, probably, if you were trying to do that. Maybe the ATOM Designs S2 Framing Hammer. You know, that's a pretty good one for the money. Yeah, okay. I mean, if you're looking for an S-Wing, though, Maybe the ATOM Designs S2 framing hammer. That's a pretty good one for the money. Yeah. Okay.

I mean, if you're looking for an S-Wing, though, I would say an ultra framing hammer or a straight claw framing hammer with a vinyl grip, probably. That's right. If you want to weigh it, 16 to 20 ounce is pretty good for DIY use with 16 ounce good for trim and chop use.

Maybe 20 ounce is better for framing and demo, but if you're just like a diy or just you know generally going to be using a hammer i would say smooth face yeah because it's not going to mar your surfaces yeah so what can i get for you i think so i think i think uh all of the above all of them you want all of them let's get them all and uh put just put it all in one bag. One bag? And here's my credit. Do you do Apple Pay? I'll do Apple Pay.

And we're going to wrap up this bit. I don't do Apple Pay. No, sorry. Oh, okay. Here's my- I'm sorry. The bid has to keep going. Okay.

Here's my American Express. Do you take- We don't take American Express. We take Diner's Club. Diner's Club? Or Discover. Discover. I don't have Discover. I can take Diner's Club. Diner's Club. If you have that or Discover. Discover. I don't have Discover.

I can write you a check. How about that? How about I write you a check? Could it be a traveler's check? We take traveler's checks. I don't. I, of course, left my traveler's checks in Europe. I keep them in a locker only in Europe.

I don't know. It looks like I'm going to have to go just get cash from the bank uh i don't know it looks like i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to go uh just get cash uh we don't take the bank we don't take you don't take cash okay um we're a cashless cashless business but you only take diners club and discover yeah diners club discover travelers checks um i mean it comes to we mentioned 30 hammers so this comes to approximately probably forty two thousand dollars around two thousand dollars for how many hammers was 30 30 hammer 30 so that's more than a thousand dollars per hammer yeah but i mean some of them obviously are five thousand dollars and some of them are like $25, you know.

Okay. It just kind of all averages out. Yeah, yeah, that tracks. Okay, you know what? Let me go apply for and get a Discover car and just to be safe, we'll get Diners Club as well. And I'll be right back. Okay, when can I expect you? Should I wrap these up and have them waiting for you or?

Just wrap them up, have them waiting. One bag? You said you wanted one bag? One giant bag. You want a giant bag? should i wrap these up and have them waiting for you or just wrap them up have them waiting uh one bag you said you wanted one bag one giant bag you want a giant bag i mean i don't think i need a giant bag to put 30 hammers in oh okay well whatever would a large bag do or that'd be great yeah i don't have any giant bags here usually we put stuff into like five bags if there's a lot of product yeah five normal size bags sure let's do that you'd rather have five bags than the one bag what what i would like is for you to use whatever amount of bags makes you as a merchant of hammers happy i look the customer is always right i want

you to be happy so my god i'll wrap it up however you want me to wrap it up okay five bags five bags so six hammers per bag or do you want a different number of hammers i want six hammers per bag exactly six per bag yes all right and i'll be back with my credit cards in uh 10 15 minutes you can you can apply and get a discover card in 15 minutes? Wow. Okay. That's right. Do you mind if I go with you? No.

It's my break time, and I'm looking for a friend to get lunch with. But I have to run a couple other errands real quick. Oh, cool. I like errands. No, it would be tough to do it because I'm riding a unicycle, and that's how i get around and how fast do you go on my unicycle yeah because i can run pretty fast probably yeah it's uh it's an electric unicycle i go like 30 miles i can run 30 miles an hour oh wait what did you say i said i go about 30 miles i can run 30 miles an hour i'll just run right alongside of you. No, there's no human being who can run 30 miles an hour.

Do you want to test me? Yeah, let's go test this out. Okay, so now exactly around the block is one mile. That's right. So you time me if I can run one hour. No, I can run 30 of these blocks in one hour. Okay, let's do it. So if it takes two minutes for me to run around the block, I've run 30 miles an hour.

Okay. All right, ready? You ready to time me? Yep, here we go. Do you have a starter's pistol? Yeah, I'm about to fire it. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready.

And... Wow, he's really fast. He just disappeared. Press time. Time, press time. I mean, that was literally like 12 seconds. I got faster? Yeah, you're...

No math whiz, but... I think I was running at like 180 miles an hour. I think you're right. How's the fastest I've ever gone? You can come with me to run my errands. Okay. All right. I am so out of breath.

Wait, where are you going? Well, aren't you going to come with me? Oh, right now? I have to unlock my unicycle. It's locked up. It's over here on the lamppost. Wait, right now? I can't go right now.

Oh, when can you go? Can we do this... Tuesday? Yeah, I can do Tuesday. That's fine. You can do Tuesday? Okay. Yeah.

You want to just wait here until then? Sure. Cock-a-doodle-doo! Oh. Oh, my God. I forfeit. Yay! I got you to forfeit.

I got you to forfeit. Oh, my God. We are talking about the talking heads. We need to take a break, if that's okay. We are going to come right back. You excited for this, Adam? I'm really excited. And you know, something I've noticed that I do too

is it's going to be something throughout this journey that we're about to take, Scott, this being the maiden voyage. Sure. We're going to have to be aware that we don't call them the talking heads yeah i gotta curtail my instinct to call them the talking heads because they are talking heads i feel like i keep doing that too and it's just it's just not part of their name it's not part of their name and that is something that you will probably learn on this

show as well as maybe band member names. I have no idea. No promises. We need to take a break, though. When we come back, we will have more you talking, talking heads. No, you talking, talking heads to my talking head. We'll be right back after this. Welcome back. welcome back you talking talking heads to my talking head here with adam scott of the scott family are you from scotland is that why you're called Adam Scott uh part of my family was from Scotland yeah Scottish uh Scottish people are from Scotland and my last name is Scott uh you can find some sort of direct link there sure if you're looking hard enough if you do the work yeah sure if you do the math

yeah but it has to be you yeah yeah um and my name's scott of course and i have no idea if any of my ancestors i believe i was named scott by my parents um there was some story that they were telling me about how uh my mom this this was with my brother i believe how my mom said what she thought the name should be and then told it to my dad who then had to walk like down a hallway and go and tell the people and by the time he had arrived at the place where he had to tell them he had forgotten what it was so he just said something else are you serious yes and so when when then when my mother was presented with my brother's like birth certificate or or said hey here's here's uh little uh greg scotty boy well no this was not me this is my brother uh she said what happened

and he said oh i kind of forgot what you said and i was like well you can change it at that point but they they thought it was too late so your dad he walks down the hall and everyone's like what's his name? And he goes, Scott, just because he couldn't remember. Adam, you're going to have to listen to me when I say that this story is about my brother. Please, not about me. My name is Scott. And your brother's name is also Scott?

Okay. All right. We have to abandon this. Okay. I'm the one giving up now. I'm fine letting this go. I'm fine letting this go. We're here talking about Talking Heads

and a wonderful sidestep maneuver here into a band that I think both of us are perhaps more into. You ready to talk about them? You ready to talk Talking Heads? Y-E-A-H. Here's what I know about their history. And when a h here's what i know about their history and when i say here's what i know i did a cursory search during our break um for a little bit of info okay you have

uh uh uh four members of the talking heads or talking heads rather that's the first thing we should talk about there's no the there's no article um you have lil davy burn lil davy burn little davy burn or david berg david berg he may that's the thing i could not tell if he is jewish um that's not what i was poking around for by the way just so we're clear what What did you, why did you say Berg? You immediately thought I was on some sort of Jew hunt when I said David Berg. Isn't that your side hustle? It is. It is.

It is. So that's fair. We also have, okay, well, let's start with David Berg. Born in where your ancestors are from, Scotland. Can you believe it? He's not a native to this land. That's all it gets is, huh? Very interesting.

Very interesting. Moves to Canada. Canada, sure. And then near Baltimore. All when he's a little kid. Okay. All right. Grows up.

I believe it. You believe it, okay? One thing I'm saying is a lie, so you have to pick out what it is. Okay. He grows up as a kid, is interested in music, plays a lot of instruments, has two penises. And then at a certain point, he's in high school, and they won't let him join choir i believe because they say he's too introspective and he's off key and uh he graduates high school i think he has a high school band which doesn't go anywhere um he pees out of his two penises you know every day

pretty much and then um he goes to art school he goes to rhode island art school where he meets another guy uh chris i know i'm gonna mispronounce this but chris farts oh yeah with a z on the end with a z yeah at the end chris farts you know it's crazy too oh sorry go ahead tell us about chris farts no but what's crazy i want to hear what's good wait is this an episode of what's crazy too yeah hey everyone welcome to what's crazy too this is scott and this is scott listen this is crazy this is not the podcast where we This is Scott. And this is Scott. Listen, this is crazy. This is not the podcast where we're talking about crazy things.

This is What's Crazy in addition to the crazy things that are already out there. But it's also the sequel to that other show. Sure, of course. So it's What's Crazy, comma, 2, T-O-O, with a giant 2 after it. Exactly. What's Crazy 2-2, like Desmond 2- tutu which was the sequel to desmond as well that's right the the crazy thing other than chris farts being in the band is that george harrison is in this band george harrison of the beatles is also in this band which is nuts as far as i'm concerned that's crazy too and a lot of people by the way great ep i'm gonna just

close it off here because you said our you said our title and i realized i should have cut it off so we'll see you next time thanks bye good ep yeah solid confusing premise maybe for a show a little bit we have some work to do on the like art of the show but a lot of people it's so funny because you you you hear all these jokes about like oh who are the beatles oh you know that band that paul mccartney was in before wings you know you hear a lot of jokes about that people are always saying about but no one ever makes the jokes you know that band that george George Harrison was in before Talking Heads? Right.

I don't know why that is. You know, Talking Heads are arguably more successful than Wings. I find it weird that people don't talk about George Harrison's, like, other super successful band more. Yeah, it's crazy. Anyway, but yeah, George Harrison. It's crazy, too. Guitarist for the Beatles is in Talking Heads. What's interesting about this person is they have a part of a head,

which is in Talking Heads, in their actual name. Part of a head in their name. What would you say is on someone's head? What would you consider the parts of a head to be? Sweat. That's right. Tina Weigh way sweat is in the band that's cool i can't think of any other parts of a head touch your own head sweat okay forget it it's very hot very very hot in the closet um so so little davey burn he meets chris farts at at the rhode island uh art school yeah and um then he drops out and he goes to a different art school and drops out of that one and eventually moves to

new york city the fifth character in a lot of our favorite films manhattan certainly gangs of new york i mean the titular new york sex in the city too sex in the city of course the fourth woman um i you know people say are you a carrie Are you a Samantha? I say I'm New York. Yeah, really? How about that character? Arguably the main character of that show and the movies. The seventh friend as well. Oh, absolutely.

Maybe the eighth. Gunther was the seventh friend, don't you think? Oh, we should mention how Chris Farts and Tina Wayswet meet, which which was she was in an art class uh there at the rhode island art school and uh she was painting something chris farts saw her from across the room and said oh wow she's really cute um and before he could get to her his roommate went up to her and he goes oh i've missed out and his roommate looks at what she's painting and he goes wow you have no idea what you're doing which is sort of like a pre the game neg yeah it's a full neg full neg and and kind of she scowls at him and and then chris farts walks over and says pardon me pardon me i i apologize for my roommate he's an asshole and he strikes up a conversation with

her i'm chris for chris farts she's like our conversation is over goodbye um anyway she has a boyfriend and thinks he's gay and uh but he becomes her friend and then she breaks up with her boyfriend and he takes her out one night and makes it clear that he is interested. And they have been together ever since. This is like a long, long relationship in rock and roll music. Sure, it's a rock and roll love story. So they all move to New York together. They're living in a studio apartment together.

uh they're living in a studio apartment together at one point little davy berg comes over all excited because he has this song he's uh started to write called psycho killer and he needs someone who speaks french to write some lyrics with him and he knows that tina speaks french and so she gives him some uh french lyrics that he can use for this and they all kind of realize that they work well together that they're all on kind of the same wavelength so they want to start another band because uh chris and little davy berg were in a band called the artistics together which broke broke up. They want to start another band. They can't find any bass player in New York. And so Chris says,

well, what about Tina? She could learn how to play bass. So little Davey Berg is he's a task master. Apparently he makes her audition three times. He teach, he sort of helps her and teaches her how to play bass, but she learns bass by listening to Suzy Quatro albums.

But he makes her audition. But he makes her audition several times in order to prove that she's good enough. Exactly like someone who started a band called The Artistics Wood. But in six months, she's suddenly a great bass player. Yeah, she's a fantastic bass player. Yeah, she's a fantastic bass player. Yeah, she's amazing. They kind of had no intention of starting another band, but they happened to be at CBGB's, the legendary club in New York City that has closed down. And they saw the Ramones and they were like, oh, this is like a brand new

kind of thing that's happening. And they realized they should start a band and they had their first gig opening for what band would you guess adam the ramones you are right sir the ramones so going from being inspired by them and seeing them and saying hey we should do this too to opening for them i think it's six months or something uh and and they became a part of the CBGB's cultural movement there in New York. Pretty cool. Now, they started in the mid-70s. I think they started somewhere around 74, 75, something like that. And they became pretty well-known in the art rock scene. But they took a long time in making their album.

And they, in fact, were a trio for a long time before George Harrison finally ditched the Beatles and was like, oh, we're not getting back together, are we? I better join another band. So he came over straight from Liverpool, like because they were playing all the little clubs over there. Yeah, yeah. No, he came over from the train was like i've heard about the talking heads love i just got off the train from liverpool you know so he took like the under underwater train yeah you've taken that right the one that only rich people can take yeah yeah yeah it's a lot of people don't know about it but it's slow though it takes like two weeks but it's super fun but it's so fun because you're basically like

there's all these you know all the undersea monsters that you read about they're like giant they're all there they're all there they're all and they're all partying yeah it's really fun so in any case at about 1976 or not about 1976 but in 1976 which i believe is the bicentennial of our great nation. Yeah, yeah. Talking Heads, as a trio, put out their debut single, and they took a long time to make a record. They, in fact, like the Rolling Stone magazine talked about how they had been around for a while, and everyone knew who they were, but they just didn't have a record out. So they came out with their first single, Love to building on fire do you want to hear a

little bit of that yes i do have you heard this by the way do you know this song uh i would imagine i've heard this yeah okay i know we're very unprepared for this show but let's see let's see if uh let's hear a little bit of it this is i love this song let's hear a little bit of love goes to building on fire this is their first single this is that version too right this is it when my love stands next to your love yeah this is awesome when it's not love Wenn es nicht Liebe ist, es ist nicht Liebe, es ist nicht Liebe, was mein Gesicht ist,

was ein Gebäude ist, was auf Feuer steht, auf Feuer, mein Liebes, Fire When my love Stands next to your love I can't define love When it's not love It's not love This is really good.

Yeah. It's terrific. This is like a Lost classic. Yeah, it's terrific. This is like a Lost classic. Yeah. I say Lost because they just, they put it out as a single. Oh, let's hear this part. Yeah, this is, and they put this on the like special edition of their first album. They finally just, so what happened with this song is they put it on the special edition of their first album. They finally did.

So what happened with this song is they put it out as a vinyl single, and then you couldn't get it anywhere. My friend told me about it. Well, I mean, this leads me to ask a question when we're talking about friends telling each other about things. And it really, I mean, I don't think we can go any further without me asking this oh what adam which is when did you first hear of talking heads oh that's a great question um probably around the time again like with a lot of these bands when they when they kind of blew up and mainstream style um because i was well it was like speaking in

tongues was their first like huge that was their like joshua tree right uh speaking in tongues had burning down the house so it was and that's their biggest single so yeah it was it was kind of their joshua tree but i i would argue that stop making sense was really their Joshua tree. Yeah. But I mean, that was that them having like a giant top 10 single, I would assume it was that big. The first time you ever heard of them probably.

And then stop making sense was where it like cemented like, Oh, these guys, we, I listened to that album. Who has eight thumbs and is in a band called talking heads these guys these guys um how about you uh the first time i ever saw them i saw the once in a lifetime video back in probably 1982 or 83 on on that video show that i used to watch after school

and i thought it was really cool and and i liked how david burn looked and he was dancing really interestingly and i sort of filed it away in my head um and then i heard burning down the house and i don't even think that i necessarily put it together that it was talking heads and the same guy i think i just like everyone kind of knew that song because it was a big hit yeah and then really it was stopped Making Sense. When that album came out, my friend who was two years older than me in high school, he knew a lot of really great music and introduced me to a lot.

And I think that he had that record and I borrowed it. And Stop Making Sense was just, the soundtrack album was just huge for me. And I listened to it for months and months on end, got to know all the music before I ever saw the the movie yeah me too and and became a huge talking heads fan after that and went back and got all of the records and then became you know obsessed with them uh for now uh 35 years at this point is i've been a fan yeah yeah that sounds so that's that's how it lines up so do you remember the first record you bought by them that's a really good question

because my brother had had uh you're welcome my brother had everything and i would just sort of listen to his stuff but i think the the first one i needed my own copy of so i could play whenever i wanted was probably stop making sense okay so speaking of friends though um although i don't know that we were but uh calling it back to love goes to building on fire the my my friend told me about this song first of all let's talk about the title love goes to building on fire it's when i say goes to they like an art school band and talking heads are an art school band you know i think three if not four of the members went to art school and they were all playing with uh conventions of

what should an album cover be what should a title be what should song lyrics even be about this song uh uses an arrow so it's the word love and then you see an arrow pointing to building on fire right and my friend i remember my friend talking about this song love goes to building on fire because he knew i liked talking heads and i was like i don't know what that is love goes to building on fire what is that he's like oh you got to hear it but the only place you could find it was either the original single or i think it was on uh an album called uh attack of the killer bees which was all like b-sides or something so it was really rare and until uh sand in theeline, which came out in like 92, it was never available on CD. So the minute it came out in 92, though, I heard it and it's such a great track.

That's what I mean when I say lost classic. It is pretty incredible. Especially it's like Radio Free Europe or whatever, Out of Control. It's like these brand new bands first time they're able to just even record a song and it's so great it's usually doesn't really go that way it's usually super shitty at first i wonder why they didn't put it on their debut record though it is on there oh no it's not you're right it's a bonus track i don't know well if we had done any kind of research yeah maybe we could talk about it maybe at some point we'll get chris farts in here and we'll be able to talk to him

which by the way he has an uh a memoir coming out at the end of this month yeah so we and it's all about he he's like i think it's called my loves or i can't remember what it is but it's like talking heads tom tom club tina like it's it's a he's like, I think it's called My Loves. I can't remember what it is, but it's like Talking Heads, Tom Tom Club, Tina. Oh, great. It's about those three things. Count me in. I'm excited about that. That can only inform some of the stuff that we're talking about on this show.

Talking Heads, what do you like about them? You know, I always liked their weirdness and everything, but I think mostly I have always loved their catchy pop songs. Like they write, I remember like five years ago, I got back into- 2015? 2015. I got back into True Stories, which is not really the Talking Heads album you usually reach for, but holy shit, are there great songs on that album. So you started reaching for this. How far did you have to reach? Well, I keep all of my Talking Heads albums separate from the others and I keep it on a

really high shelf. And so it's actually quite a reach. And True Stories is the highest one, which is why I wouldn't think to reach for it as often so you're always going low a lot of people would reach for the the top thing on a stack of things as that is the easiest because you're not disturbing the stack yeah but you reach for the bottom thing on the stack normally should we start listening to this first debut album because you didn't ask me the question that i asked you which i think is really rude the only reason i asked it to you is because i wanted you to ask me of course i'm sorry scott why do you like the talking head so much um you know when i saw it when i when i first saw them it it really seemed like here was here was a group that was doing things differently.

At a time in my life when I was 15 where I was really interested in people doing things differently, that's the year that I got into David Letterman, the original Late Night with David Letterman show. And he was playing around with conventions and was not conventionally good looking. Although, Mr. Letterman, if you're listening, I'm sorry to slam you like that here on our first episode. I know you're probably listening since we worked together on the Between Two Ferns film, and I apologize. But that Stop Making Sense record, I remember the sleeve had a lot of interesting things that david burn wrote on it about music itself and i remember one of them saying lyrics are just a trick to to make us keep listening to music um which i've

always thought about whenever you hear an instrumental it's kind of like yeah it's fine but what about adding some lyrics to it and making a song out of it um and just his dancing and everything seemed different about them and and the lyrics when you start really examining them are all about these sort of quotidian areas of life that no one you know usually when people are making songs they're trying to make them important you know like this has got to be the greatest love song ever written or i heard this song yesterday which was i'm proud to be an american because at least i know i'm free and i know to stand up next to you and it's always like trying to be about the most grandiose statement that you can make and instead these guys were singing about minutiae yeah i, their second album is called

More Songs About Buildings and Food. Yeah, exactly. So I just really gravitated towards them as sort of like art rock weirdos, which is, even though I was the descendant of simple country folk, and I had art school aspirations and wanted to be some kind of artist.

Who knew what type of, I mean, who knew that it would lead me here to being on a Zoom call with you? During the apocalypse? As one of the last pieces of entertainment ever to come out until this human race is extinguished. Well, I think I can speak for everyone on planet earth when i say you're welcome um tell you what that's why we like talking heads but we do need to take a break before we get into the record when we come back we will be talking about the record talking heads 77 let's hear a little bit from that album that uh reached for recently. This is off of True Stories. We'll be right back with more You Talkin' Talking Heads to my talking head.

We'll be right back. welcome back you talking talking heads to my talking head this is the song called radio head which a little bit of music trivia adam i know you wanted to say it so i'll let you say it go ahead you know what go ahead scott this is the song there where radiohead got their name oh my god they were called on a friday before and then they said let's change it to radiohead because of the talking head song it's better a better name for a band definitely although they took out the uh little space bar in between the radio and head did they not it's one word now for them for the title remember how radiohead used to open up all their shows they and everyone

would clap like ladies and gentlemen radiohead then they come out and bow and and wave to everyone like thank you please be quiet we have something to say you know and they'd say it's one word now oh yeah they used to they used to project it on a screen behind them even when they were a little band playing clubs that just said it's one word now it's one word now um we we should get to their debut album talking heads colon 77 i i always thought that this was was just called 77 but i believe uh the official title is talking heads 77 as in of course it is scott come on come on man all i you know when i when i got the record you look at the the the album and it says talking heads 77 and so you think okay talking heads is the name who cares right i guess i always thought it was because it had 77 songs on it i mean in a way it does

if you break up these you know 11 into you know seven chunks yeah that's what i always did was i i just broke it up into 77 so you would stop listening after one seventh of each song so i thought that's what you were supposed to do because it was called 77 but this first song is two minutes and 50 seconds so it's 170 seconds so if you divide that seven to that you'd break it up after approximately 24 seconds not approximately but exactly and then i would take a four minute break and then listen to the rest what would you do during that four minute break push-ups you're by the way i gotta tell you i've i've known you for a long time and your your body yeah looks fucking good right is

that okay to say it's because it's a it's a regiment i'm i'm gonna monetize at some point it's called splitting every album up into 77 parts and doing 77 push-ups in between each part precisely um all right let's listen to some of this all right music uh this is the this is track as far as i'm concerned this is track one of Talking Heads 77. By the way, at this time, Jerry, I'm sorry, George Harrison has joined the band. Yes. He was not there for the debut single. He comes in for this. This is track one.

This is Uh-Oh, Love Comes to Town. Uh-oh. Oh, yeah, this is great. Wait, wait for the moment to come Stand up, stand up and take my hand Believe, believe in mystery Take my hand. the smartest girl in town. So here come the rhythm, here come the clue. If you are really smart, you know what to do. And I say...

Yeah. Hear that steel pan? Jump back, sit back, get back, relax. It's all good What do you think, Adam? I love this song. I think it's terrific and weird. Like you were saying, that steel drum coming in

in the middle of this New York art rock is really weird. This is kind of their most down to its basic elements album, I would say. There's not a lot of additional instrumentation in this album. This is sort of the classic four-piece. Yeah, for sure. It's like their live sound, more or less. Yeah, their live sound. But what's weird is so many of the songs have these interesting additions.

The very first song has this kind of steel pan drum and you would go oh are they a band that has this drum on every song but they're not it's just for this it's really cool so i'm gonna be quoting from the pitchfork um i'll let it play a little bit from the pitchfork uh reviews that you mentioned which is why you wanted to do this that's right i sure did um uh the they're talking about like okay so art school what are they saying about what they're doing and this is a love song but it it has the uh-oh in there as in like a sort of detached observer of like oh no love is here love comes to town um and and let me quote from this article parsing the blend of sincerity and irony in any talking head song is difficult but you never doubt their belief in the music so that's kind of an interesting

thing about their lyrics is their you know how much of it is david burn kind of kind of has this thing of like detached yes uh sort of naivete about subjects and uh it certainly is here in the lyrics to this song where it's it sounds like a person who's never really been in love and and kind of amazed at what's happening but it it also is straddling that line of being a sincere love song as well yeah it's very much a view from above of like looking at humanity and just being like, this is very weird and interesting what humans do. It's like sort of, he carries it through their whole career too, of this kind of observational. How much of that it has to do with him being like living in Canada? Did any of that pick up? Like where he, I have no idea if he felt like an outsider there or is it just,

is it, would he consider himself to be mainly from Maryland? Hmm. I don't know. Should we ask him? Yeah, we should. Hey, Lil Davey Berg, come on this show. We'd love to have you. One question and then you can leave. Yeah. Not only can leave, but should leave.

We're going to make you leave. For sure. I feel like we should talk about another band in the CBGB scene, which is Television, which I think they have a very strong television influence. And Television's first record came out the year before. And George Harrison is really into television and he references them a lot. And I just I really think that a lot of their sort of dual guitar work is and songwriting structure in a way is based off of television. So if you haven't heard Marky Moon, check that out because that record is amazing and came out the year before this.

If this is appealing at all to you. All right, so let's go to track two. This is New Feeling. It's not yesterday anymore I go visiting I talk loud I try to make myself clear In front of a face that's nearer Than it's ever been before

Not this close before Nearer than before I love the dual guitar stuff. I feel like Lil Davey Berg is on the left and George Harrison's on the right, but it could be backwards. Lil Davey Berg is on the left and George Harrison's on the right, but it could be backwards. But I love the sort of scratchy guitars and each of them doing something really unique and interesting. I just love how fresh this sounds. I mean this does not sound dated whatsoever. The lyrics, it's a million years ago, I hear music, it sounds like bells, I feel like my head is high. I wish I could meet everyone, meet them all over again.

I'm not sure quite, not quite sure what he's talking about, but obviously. There's also, yeah, there's a paranoia as well in a lot of his lyrics. I think fear of music

may be where they, them at their most paranoid, but it's definitely here too like this sort of insecurity as well as uh just sort of this distrust of of people as well as sort of this voice is yelping in in a way that is like highlighting that yeah way yeah um do you want to hear a little bit of the alternate version of that by the way just to hear how different it sounds here's a little bit of the alternate version of that by the way just to hear how different it sounds here's a little bit of the alternate version of new feeling believe they're counting it off or it's fading up here it goes

one two three four horns horn sex so there are uh there are approximately four alternate versions of the songs on these and most of them have like additional instrumentation that they then convince the producer not to put on the record yeah because this is before they hook up with old sour puss yeah but what's interesting is sometimes it works like uh-oh love comes to tony of the steel pan drum yeah but then on psycho killer when we come to that i'll play the alternate version and like i kind of like this i like the yeah i like it but they but they we should talk about the producer by the way. This is their first record,

and it is produced by a gentleman named Tony Bongiovi. Bongiovi. Spelled B-O-N-G-I-O-V-I. And if you're sitting here thinking, that sounds like Bon Jovi, you are not far off because Tony Bongiovi's cousin is a man named John Bongiovi. Seriously? Who changed his name man named John Bongiovi. Seriously?

Who changed his name later to John Bongiovi. And Tony Bongiovi, he was sort of like a disco producer. He produced Gloria Gaynor records before this, I think. And then he did this Talking Heads album and I think he did some ramon stuff but interestingly

enough he gave john bongiovi one of his first jobs when he made the star wars christmas album which is fucking horrible and uh johnny bongiovi is one of the backup singers on that. Wow. So he was a real music guy. He was just around. Yeah, I think he's a session guy or a session producer or something like that. I don't know how he got hooked up with the band. Maybe Chris Fartz's book will talk about it.

But yeah, it's interesting, huh? But it's before they had found their sort of place and they were just kind of looking for someone who could record their album maybe yeah and he did their first single and so it seemed like they had an okay time with them and ed's ed stasium uh it was the engineer and he did ramon stuff so i think i think maybe these guys were like uh around the cbc or something you know brian eno old sourpuss pretty quick like i think the next record by the way if you've heard our other shows old sourpuss is going to be looming large over this show can we just say you're gonna be getting plenty of his hey i just sucked on a lemon attitude uh in further episodes of you talking talking heads to my talking head um so anyway so let's go to track three this is tentative decisions Now that I can release my tension

Let me make clear my best intention Girls ask, can I define decision? Boys ask, can I describe their function? Oh, the boy, wonderful Who'd like to talk about those problems And the girls say they're concerned that they are concerned with these sizes And it's a hard logic to follow when the girls get lost To follow when the girls get lost And the boys say they're concerned

That they are concerned with these types of things What do you think, Adam? Yeah, I mean, I love this shit. Weirdly enough, this is one that never really stuck with me. This was always maybe my least well here's the thing is that starting with this song and and i i love this chorus or this i guess is a pre-chorus but this whole kind of mid-section i love but i feel like the album as a whole um starting here um probably up through...

You're already getting into re-sequencing. I just feel like it sort of starts feeling samey for a while here for four or five songs and then ends really well. I know what you mean. I do wonder why they put the last song as the last song.

I never really thought much about this song until I read that during the break the break i read the pitchfork review where it talks about how uh david berg does his first instance of sort of his call and response two different voices where where um maybe i'm gonna go back to the first minute i'll show you what what i mean so soul music uh had like a main singer who would sing something in his voice like and then the backup singers would repeat it and that was kind of a staple of uh soul music and what david burn was doing is he was doing both parts right and so he does his low voice and then he does his high voice as kind of a call and response thing.

So let me play part of that and you can hear what he does because he does it more famously on another song later that we'll be talking about. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's doing both, which was an art school spin on this kind of cliche in music, which I think is really interesting. Then also that Pitchfork review talked about how the end of the

song basically invents house music a full decade before house music comes around. Let's hear the end of the song. Oh, that's so funny. Happy Mondays. That's crazy. This is exactly, and Tina and Chris work with Happy Mondays as producers in the future,

which I think is really interesting. That's very TomTomClubby, too. Yeah, so I had never really been that into the song but after i read that i it it gave me a uh a better appreciation of it yeah i like it a lot um this is track four this is happy day this is a great one i think here we go the piano jerry harrison or george harrison i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry sir i remember i got really into got really into the George Harrison solo record that he had out in like the late 80s. Got my mindset on you? Cloud nine.

I believe that I was born with the enough that I think it's not samey here. It's a different feel. Yeah, I feel like Brian, old sourpuss, really cements their sound and kind of pulls all their potential to the surface a bit more than this i think this is terrific but like you said it's sort of more or less their live sound potatoes i love this song um let's burn through these. We next go to track number five, Who Is It? Who Is It? Which shares its title with a Michael Jackson song called Who Is It?

I wonder if that's a coincidence. 100%. A coincidence, yes. Yeah, this is awesome. Very danceable. You got the bass and the drums. Very danceable. You got the bass and the drums are so danceable. Who is it? Who is it?

Who is it? Who is it? What is it? Yeah, this is just very early talking heads. What is it? I don't know why I would say something like that. It's really... Ins insane thing to say. That's present day Adam.

Saying something stupid. That is just a fact as if it's a discovery of some sort. This is the last track on side one. This is No Compassion. Very television here, I think. Mm-hmm. Where people have problems In this world Where decisions are a way of life See, like, knowing where the talking heads end up going, this sounds like a song to me that this may be what it sounds like live,

but in the studio they would have so many more instruments they would have put out yeah it would just be goes into a new part here i mean it's great i mean it's great i mean come on it's great that's how i mean come on it's great that's that's the uh the first side and uh many would say side two is better who knows uh let's hear this is the first track on side two but this is track seven on the this is the book I read I have to sing about the book I read I'm embarrassed to admit it

Hit the soft spot in my heart When I found out you wrote that book I read. So take my shoulders and put your arms around me. I like how he's saying, I have to sing a song about the book I read. And then it turns into personal of like, I was so excited when I found out you wrote the book I read. Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm living in the future. Good shit. You wrote the book I read. Good shit.

Yep. Good shit. This is Don't Worry About the Government, which I think is another entry into his sort of like naive outsider who's sort of under the sway of what society tells him. With some paranoia thrown at him. Oh, I love this. Yeah, this is terrific. I see the clouds that move across the sky.

I see the wind that moves the clouds away. It moves the clouds over by the building I pick the building that I want to live in I smell the pine trees and the peaches in the woods I see the pine cones that fall by the highway That's the highway that goes to the building I pick the building that I want to live in It's over there, it's over there

My building has every convenience It's gonna make life easy for me It's gonna be easy to get things done I'm gonna relax along with my loved ones Loved ones, loved ones This is, I mean, one of their best. So great. All three parts of it are great

and the lyrics are so talking heads of like... It's just a classic. The next track is First Week slash Last Week Ellipsis, Carefree. First Week, Last Week, Carefree. For some reason, not been able to ever really get into this one. It's fine. You want to hear the alternate version? See if there's additional instrumentation to be had on it?

Let's see. A little studio chatter. Three, four. Can we run that again? Eh, I don't know. Is that the woman's voice I hear? Next song is a classic, though. Not too different.

Boy, you said one complete mouthful, and it is just dribbling all out at the sides of your mouth. This is possibly one of their top three songs that people know of Talking Heads. This is Psycho Killer. We talked about it before with the French lyrics, and this is the original version. This is Psycho Killer. and this is the original version this is psycho killer I mean, this could have opened the album.

Yeah, the sequencing on this is a little... strange. Should we do a re-sequence? I would do one. Although this is such a great album i don't know i feel like rem uh with you where i'm afraid to touch it but um i think maybe there are later ones i could re-sequence let's hear the the version. Okay, yeah. So we've all heard this many times, but it's more of an alternate version.

The version I grew up with was the Stop Making Sense version. I knew that way more than any other. This is an interesting version. It essentially just adds a cello, and the cello is performed by by arthur russell um but it's interesting and but they they they asked that it be the more simple version which is the classic version but but this version is interesting so i i don't know where i fall on which one i like better Oh, yeah. I'm tense and nervous and I can't relax I can't sleep cause my bed's on fire

Don't touch me, I'm a real life wire Psycho killer Qu'est-ce que c'est Fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away Oh, oh, oh Yeah, I like them both. Psycho killer Qu'est-ce que c'est I mean, maybe they wanted to put out most of the album

with just the sparse sound so that anytime they broke out of that, like with the steel pan drum, it would be interesting or something. But I do think the cello is additive on that uh and i like it i don't know but anyway it became a it became a classic song without it so who the fuck are we um this is the last track and this is one of the best songs on the record and yet it is the final track so who knows why but this is pulled up and this was a single, this was popular.

I like an energetic finish. I like that. Are you that. With your number two. Let's hear the chorus. Here we go. This part I love. This is such a good song. I mean, where do we fall on the album as a whole, Adam? Considering the breadth of Talking Heads' work.

I mean, as we move through their stuff, and i'm really glad we're doing this but it's been it hasn't been uh uh i'm not gonna say a while but a period of time indeterminant since you've really heard these records yeah since i've really dove dove in into them if i may or at least dipped your toe, even your big toe. Dipped my toe, but I'm looking forward to it because all these records are fantastic. This was, so I went back after Stop Making Sense and I got all of the early records. And this is the one that I listened to the most.

Oh, it is. Somehow I remember putting this on a tape, on a 45-minute cassette tape. And I remember driving to Arizona for Christmas one year and just listening to this on repeat, where it was just like, I think I listened to whatever was on the other side of the tape and then went back and just really listened to this over and over and over. And for me, this has some of their best songs.

It is their live sound, but every song is kind of simple in a way. Like most of the songs are about three minutes, you know, two and a half, some of them. And it just, it's so catchy and it's so talking heads this is for some reason this was the early album that i gravitated to the most and i have the most uh fond memories of that's cool mine is fear of music of those early ones it's just the one i ended up getting them listening to the most into yeah it was really stony and weird and good um but for whatever reason this one sort of blended into that live album the name of this band is talking heads which is kind of this period it

all sounds the first record on that of a of a time and it's all great but um this as an album i i never like listened to it uh as an album as much as just kind of jumping in here and there. So it's cool to hear it all out like this. Well, for the next record, we should listen to it before we decide to do a show. Yeah, for sure. But this, I was confident going in because this is one of my favorites. I won't say exactly where I would rank it. And if you have time, listen to the expanded version because there's a couple of demos on it.

Sugar on my tongue and I want to live. That's not on the expanded version. For some reason, it's on their sand in the Vaseline or other compilations. But those are classic early talking head songs as well as I feel it in my heart, which is a B side. Some really great stuff. But we do have to wrap it up. And Adam, I got to say, I'm happy we did this. Yeah, me too.

I'm maybe more excited. And I'll do- Are we going to stick with it? Yeah. I mean, maybe next week we'll change it to something else. But I think we should see this one through. Let's see it through. Let's listen to their next record.

I guess our next episode will be more songs about building and food so you can all listen to it and we will listen to it or you can just hear us talk about it. We're going to have to go but you know what we say. Until next time we hope that you found what you're looking for.

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