U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head? - Fear of Music

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

Adam Scott Aukerman discuss the third Talking Heads studio album “Fear of Music.” They also talk about Scott celebrating one of his birthdays with Adam at Universal CityWalk, the found clip of Adam yelling in the middle of a Cowboy Junkies song on The Dennis Miller Show, and Matlock.

From E to Zimbra, this is You Talkin' Talking Heads to My Talking Head, the comprehensive and encyclopedia compendium of all things talking heads. This is good rock and roll music. Welcome back. Welcome back to the show. You Talkin' Talking Heads to my talking head. I already said it, but it is the comprehensive encyclopedic compendium of all things talking heads. And an incredible third episode here for you. This is, of course, the third episode of this show. We've had various episodes or various episode of our other topics.

various episodes or various episode of our other topics. But today we'll be talking about the Talking Heads album, the album by Talking Heads called Fear of Music. Fear of music where the wind comes sweeping down the plane. Now, Scott, what's that from? That's from the album that we're going to be talking about, Fear of Music. Oh, OK. Sorry uh you're right i just i was kind of consulting my notes here and that's the first try it's the uh opening track when uh you know when david byrne comes riding up on the horse

and he's right right like uh that part of the album was just mute for me there's nothing it i play it yeah it's a pre-lap you basically have to uh on the cd you have to rewind track one and there's a whole like musical essentially oh i'm listening on on nine inch tape oh wait is that how nine inch nails got their name yeah it's a parody of nine inch tape well yeah of course what do you i didn't realize they were a parody band. Oh, yeah, they're like the Weird Al of, you know. So when they say, I want to fuck you like an animal, what are they parodying? Oh, they're making fun of that old song by Grand Funk Railroad. Oh, wait, I want to funk you like an animal?

That's right. Or I want to fuck you like Grand Funk Railroad would. I want to funk you like a manimal, and it was all about that. Oh, the 80s show, Manimal, yeah. That was a good show. And how funky Manimal was. Is this an advertisement for Peacock, like that 30 Rock show was? I think it might be.

Because I think they're showing Manimal on the 80s station there. Welcome to the show. This is, hey, look look you know uh we've heard his voice and we've heard my voice so why don't we just introduce each other um you know him as uh the gentleman actor from such shows as party down and uh i feel like i saw you in something the other day but then i immediately forgot it is that pretty much the story of your career yeah well and I feel like I saw you in something the other day, but then I immediately forgot it. Is that pretty much the story of your career?

Yeah. Well, you immediately changing the channel certainly seems to be the... Oh, no, I was all in. I watched the whole thing and then it just faded from my memory somehow. So what are you doing? Like on our previous episodes,

and I'll introduce you in a second, you have not sat down. You've stood the entire time. Now you're away from the mic and you're slapping your hands like you're wiping dirt off of it. What is going on? No, I'm trying to keep the headphones on and be very gentle so as not to pull the computer off the shelf here. But what were you doing down there? Because you bent over and I heard a slapping sound underneath your waist area.

I was going, no, I was going, I have a toilet in here. So, oh, and you need to slap your butt in order to get the poop out. That's right.

I was grabbing my bag off the floor to grab something out of it. And why don't you talk in the fucking mic? Stop looking at your bag. Cause I'm, I'm pointing to where I don't and... Why don't you talk in the fucking mic? Stop looking at your bag. Because I'm pointing to where I was. I don't care. I don't care. I know where you are. Well, the audience has to know, so I need to point.

Your mic technique leaves a lot to be desired, my friend, is all I'm saying. Oh, my mic technique. Okay, Mike Wallace. What if you had to slap your butt like you slap the butt of a horse in order to get it going? Every time you go to the bathroom, you have to slap your butt like you slap the butt of a horse in order to get it going? Every time you go to the bathroom, you have to slap your butt? Come on, get out! I feel like the world would be different if that's... I think it would.

I think so many of the world's issues wouldn't be a problem anymore. Well, maybe, but I think there would be other problems. I'm not saying it would be better. I'm just saying the world would be different. It would be considerably different. What if we had three arms and there was one just jutting out of your chest cavity? What if we had three arms and, or four arms, one chest cavity, one coming out of the small of your back and its only purpose is to slap your butt to get things going.

Honestly, it is a fault of the human design that we cannot see our backs. We can't touch parts of our backs. Like the whole sunscreen thing where you have to. That's the only reason people get married, I think, is so that you have someone. There's two reasons. Okay, two reasons I got married. I need someone to put sunscreen on that part of my back that I can't reach. And I don't want to eat alone because what if I start choking?

There's no one to do the Heimlich on me. Yeah. The only two reasons to get married. And you get the Heimlich done to you every night. Every single night before I go to bed. Right before dinner. Basically, I have a three-course meal delivered to me in bed. That's right. I choke on a chicken bone every single night. Every single night before I go to bed. Right before dinner. Basically, I have a three-course meal delivered to me in bed. That's right.

I choke on a chicken bone every single night. And it's not, there's no meat on it, anything. You could be having pizza and you finish it off by shoving that chicken bone down your throat. What's for dessert, honey? Mmm, chicken bone. Yummy. And then a spitooey, it goes out, goes flying across the room. And then I am out like a light.

That is a baby has had a full day at that point. That's exhausting. Choking like that. It certainly is. But speaking of choking like that, here's a man who likes to joke. He likes me joking like that. Oh, he got my number. You got my number.

He is currently on the television program Don't, which is on the American broadcasting company, Love or Leave It, on Thursday nights. What do you mean, Love it or Leave it? America. And the American broadcasting company. Love it or Leave it. Like, remember, I'm born on the 4th of July. Love it or Leave it, man. Love it or leave it.

What is this? I Love Films or what? Yes. Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And today we're just talking about classic lines from movies. I mean, we're going to need a bigger boat, E.T. phone home, and Adam, you were saying

before the show started, there's another classic line from Born on the Fourth of July. Classic line from Born on the Fourth of July, 1989, Oliver Stone, Tom Cruise joint. Love it or leave it.

Love it or leave it, man. Born on the Fourth of July t-shirts and bumper stickers and stuff. It was a huge thing in the late 80s. Huge thing. It was like, remember those Forrest Gump t-shirts? Yeah.

Because his catchphrase was, shit happens. Yeah, shit happens. You can't say shit on a t-shirt. It was, the full catchphrase was, shit happens, farts are silent. But you can't do that on a t-shirt. So instead they say, gump happens. That's right. And then it just segued into Bubba Gump Shrimp Company t-shirts, which I have a collection of.

Those are particularly great t-shirts. There's a Bubba Gump Shrimp Company at, I believe it's the Atlanta airport, and it's one of the best. Is that a good one? It's great. It's delicious. I really love to collect great Bubba Gump shrimp companies, so that's a good one, huh? Yeah. Actually, I believe I purchased a Bubba Gump shrimp company t-shirt for John Schrader at that Bubba Gump, if I'm not mistaken. I got one. Why would you be mistaken about that fact?

What would have happened? Did I forgot? Well, two things. Maybe I forgot to give it to him, or maybe I left it in the airport or on the airplane. Meanwhile, you're wearing a Bubba Gump T-shirt right now. But I do not remember giving it to him so there's a chance that but i do remember purchasing it and it was outrageous what are some of the t-shirts that you and tall john now we've talked about tall john on this program many times yeah mutual friend of ours uh longtime

friend of both of ours what and i know that uh he has t-shirts of you, but describe some of these T-shirts. Well, I think it started with me giving him a T-shirt with my picture on it. I think that's where it started. And not a headshot, like a disposable camera picture or something that you'd put onto a T-shirt? Boy, I'm not sure what the photo was. Not sure what that source was. No. But then, like a year later, he gave me a T-shirt with a picture of him wearing that T-shirt on it.

Right. I've seen that one. Yeah. Oh, wait. Then I saw a picture of you next to him while he wore that T-shirt. And that's up in his house. But did he make a T-shirt of that? Maybe. Yeah.

And I'm wearing the one that he gave me. But I feel like there was... Well, you really make a story come to life. I feel like there was... I know. it's all half shards of memories long forgotten i have this running joke it's all john that i don't remember why it started or why we're doing i have no idea why it started or where it ended up why did i ask i don't know but you gave me a t-shirt for one of my birthdays uh i believe we went to uh for one of my birthdays we went to the

universal city walk and had just a terrible birthday where i think we went to the western place yeah we did one of them i went to i went to hooters and and i got i got all i don't think i was there for that you weren't you weren't there for what that one but i got all the hooters waitresses to sign a t-shirt that i got but for this one that was in burbank this was at universal city walk we went to the saddleback cafe or whatever where people can ride the uh the bull mechanical bull there's never been an atmosphere less it's less celebratory than in that place i can't imagine getting on the mechanical bull in a place like that. We've done it.

We've done it before. I mean, it's just a terrible place to celebrate a birthday. And gross food. Gross food. And then we went, and this I actually was excited about. This is when the movie The Amazing Spider-Man came out. And Spider-Man, of course, is one of my favorite characters in literature. Yeah, sure. And I was excited by it. man of course is one of my favorite uh uh characters in uh literature yeah sure and um

i was excited by it and it was the midnight showing because my birthday was uh uh it's july 2 and and i think it came out on july 3rd or so so they had like a 10 o'clock showing or midnight showing and it was such a bummer because that movie is not my cup of tea when it comes to Spider-Man. Was that the sequel to the... That was the first one with the dude who played the guy in the Iron One. Andrew Garfield. Yeah, Garfield. Which, as Neil Campbell says, when he was a kid, he had gotten word from the future that Garfield plays Spider-Man.

He would have been so excited. The thought of Garfield playing Spider-man is such a great that is great i would 100 go see that movie definitely uh here's my question i don't think i went to the movie with you guys i think i think you dipped out you dipped out right before the movie yeah you went to saddle ranch you gave me a t-shirt which i believe you bought at universal yeah city walk yeah that had a switch in it to where it would light up, like neon stuff would light up. And it said like Hollywood on it. It said Hollywood, and it was like a size too small. But I still, like I put it on, and put it on over my other clothes while we watched the movie.

Here's my question. There was also a sequel to that. amazing spider-man 2 yes oh i thought it was i thought the amazing spider-man was the sequel to spider-man but that is the wisdom of a fool yes no the the reboot was called the amazing spider-man and then they had part two yeah how can you know so much about and by the way uh we're still in the middle of ilove films how can you know so much about when uh born on the fourth of july was released and not know that the amazing spider-man is not a sequel to any other spider-man because i did not see those particular spider-man movies so your film knowledge is relegated to what you see yes what's right in front of my face at the moment I'm talking about.

This is a lot like people's relation to religion. If they can see it, then they believe it. And then to which a lot of people would counter and say, well, you see the wind blowing through the trees. You can't see the wind, but you see the effects of the wind. Exactly. You believe in the wind, do you not? Right. And that's how I feel about the Mark Webb Spider-Man movies.

See, I know who directed them. You sure do. Well, what else would I expect from a co-host of I Love Films? I did not see those ones, but I did see the next reboot. Sure. Those are great. It was great. Now, the sequel to The Amazing Spider-Man, did you see that one?

Yes, I did. How was that one? Weirdly enough, most people say it's worse than The Amazing Spider-Man, but weirdly enough, I liked it better. I don't know why. And why is that, Scott? I just said, fuck, I just said I don't know why. I'm sorry. You're not listening to me.

Was that the one with Jamie Foxx? I don't know. As Mr. Freeze? I'm not a guy who's out there one with Jamie Foxx? I don't know. As Mr. Freeze? I'm not a guy who's out there tracking what Jamie Foxx does or doesn't do. I thought, sorry, I thought you were one of those guys. No, I mean, Jamie, sure, yes, he followed up his tour de force, winning an Oscar in Ray with a movie called The Soloist with Robert Downey Jr., who plays old shellhead himself, Tony Stark, Iron Man.

Okay, so see, to me, that sounds like someone that's keeping track of what Jamie Foxx is up to. Maybe, but I'm not a guy who's just sitting there going like, ooh, what's Jamie Foxx up to today? Did he star in a Spider-Man movie? That's not me, man. I have my own shit going on. So you have a Spider-Man blind spot

as far as Jamie Foxx is concerned. Other than that, any Jamie Foxx questions you can answer. Sure, I don't see Jamie Foxx when it comes to Spider-Man blind spot as far as Jamie Foxx is concerned. Other than that, any Jamie Foxx questions you can answer. I don't see Jamie Foxx when it comes to Spider-Man. I see Electro. I see. Okay. That makes sense. So I have no idea if he started it or not.

All I saw was a great movie. And you saw Electro in it. With Electro and the Rhino. He could have played any one of them. Which may or may not could have been. Sure. Who knows? Jamie Foxx. All right. Which may or may not could have been. Sure. Who knows? Jamie Foxx.

All right. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Good app. They got a little off track. Little Meandering. Little Meandering.

That is, of course. Little Meandering is so cute. Good old Little Meandering. Boy, I'd like to see him play Spider-Man along with Garfield. Maybe Garfield should be Electro and Little Meandering is so cute. Good old Little Meandering. Boy, I'd like to see him play Spider-Man along with Garfield. Maybe Garfield should be Electro and Little Meandering should be Spider-Man. Let's do it. Let's reboot it. Let's reboot it again.

I do have to introduce you. You know him from Don't. He is, how much, how long is that on the air? Like, does it stop in September or like how many episodes? Did you just film a million of them? Yeah, we filmed one million episodes. I feel like it's going to end soon. We did eight of them.

So it's not that many. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I've checked off around six on my list. So maybe only a couple more. Anyway, you still have a chance to see him in the season finale hopefully not the series finale coming up soon those shows shoot fast like we did that in four days i i would not be surprised if you said we did that in four hours they now that would be great so you did eight episodes in four days that's incredible yeah

and then how much post though because it seems like there's a lot of heavy lifting in post uh i mean we would do welcome adam hi hey hey hey we don't have to talk about post production why would we um you're to introduce me or what? Oh, man. Everybody. He's taking a sip of water right as I ask him. You know him from everything. You know him from the wonderful, the very handsome,

sunglasses-wearing on the inside of his house, Scotty Ackerman. Hey-oh! Hey-oh! Hey-oh! side of his house scott yockerman oh yeah you like that song well see beetlejuice the what's that oh man he doesn't want to say his name three times this guy i was trying to trick him not get me to do that you know what i saw i saw the uh broad I saw the Broadway production of that.

It's terrific. So good. A friend co-wrote it. Yeah. That's where I went. Because your friend co-wrote it or because my friend co-wrote it? It might be the same friend, Anthony. Don't say his name.

No one wants to. Oh, no. I thought you said Beetlejuice. No. You're not going to get me to say that B word one more time because the third time it will summon him. that you now, much like John McEnroe or Andre Agassi, need to tame it by some sort of a headband. Is that correct?

That's right. And I was growing my hair out for a project, and then this happened. And so I guess now it's just going to be even longer once we start shooting the old girl. Well, were you, and please don't tell me what this project is, but were you hoping to have even longer hair? Is this delay a blessing for whatever look you're going for? Are you going, part B of this question,

are you going for a Tom Hanks in, what is that movie where he's no not not that one not as extreme as that thing you do not not that one definitely but there's that movie where he's like underground angels and demons no not that one it's like uh the no not that one uh it's like bosom buddies bosom buddies are you going for a Bosom Buddies thing? Yeah. Yeah, 100%. This is a show called Severance that Ben Stiller's directing. Patricia Arquette is also in it. Also some other great actors. Let me guess what this show is about.

And you tell me if I can even get close to the premise of the show. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Guy, played by you. very sad man spends his time watching night of the museum movies on a loop right right gets fired from his job right and his boss says well we're sorry we're firing you i know you've been with the company for 83 years or so maybe less i i haven't

kept track of of your ins and outs um we're gonna give you a little something that i call and then he looks in the camera and he winks with both eyes so i guess it's more of a blink and he says severance right and then you say what did what did you just call it and he says and he tries to wink again but he can't do it he can't close one eye so he just blinks again he's like severance is what i called it and then you're like how how many weeks and he says i don't know, one, two, buckle my shoe. What are we talking about here? I don't know. Cut to black opening credits. Yes. Is that it?

How close did I get? You're really, I mean, clearly you, what, read the script? Did you? Yeah. Were you at the table read? I don't remember. I wrote the script, actually. At table reads, I'm so in the zone.

I don't even see who's there. Can you tell us what your character's name is? Can you give us that? Obviously, you've thought about it. You've incorporated it into your thought patterns at this point. I've grown my hair for the character. You don't want anyone on set to say whatever this character's name is and for you to say like, huh, who's that?

That's not me. I'm Adam scott what are you talking about so deep when i go when i start a project so deep put your ass to sleep i'm so deep in the character that i don't even know what the character's name is because i want to it needs to be like it needs to feel like reality because just a regular everyday person out in the world who's living their life, do they know what their name is? No, of course they don't. So why would I know what my name is as the character? You've been gesturing up to the camera, by the way. Have you painted your fingernails?

My daughter painted my fingernails. Oh, what do they look like? Let me look at those bad boys. They're black with yellow bow ties on them. Oh, what do they look like? Let me look at those bad boys. They're black with yellow dots on them. Oh, they're dots. Okay. They're dots like cow spots. I know what dots are.

Like dipping dots. The ice cream of the future. Yes. Cow flavored dipping dots. The dipping dots that taste like cow butt. Cow butt. The dipping dots, it tastes like cow butt. Cow butt.

Cows, by the way, they fart so much that we got a problem up there in the ozone. Am I right, my boy? Oh, yeah. But listen, we all like a good cow fart, right? Hell, yeah. That's why we keep them around. But if that's the price, if my freedom is the price that we have to pay so I can, you know, get a little cow farts. You know one thing about the quarantine that's actually a bit of a blessing in disguise?

Yes. Now we have the freedom to take that day trip out to the pasture, a cow pasture, and get right up in there and let a cow just fart in your face with no one around the best way no one around to bother you or you don't have to stand in line oh my gosh um have you ever been next to a cow they don't keep them in the zoo i think that's you know i don't know it's kind of weird did you did you when you were in elementary school did you have the guy bring the cow with the hole in it and they can reach inside and pull stuff out of its stomach uh a live cow yes it just stands there eating and the farmer's like all, now we reach in, and this is partially digested cud, and then he puts it back in. I thought you meant he was pulling his intestines out. No, he pulls out food from its stomach that's partially digested.

Somehow this sounds familiar to me, like it happened to me. Or maybe I've told the story before. No, no. I mean, I have a picture in my mind of seeing this um by the way we were talking about weird things that we couldn't ever explain in our last episode and i this this makes me remember a new one when we're talking about school programs when i was probably six, because it was at my old school and I moved to...

Years old? Yeah, years old. Inches long as well in terms of penis length. Sure. There was a program. I remember being outside and watching it and it had like people dressed as clowns in it. And during the climax of the show, they all got up and went into the audience and got us kids to like clap along and stuff like that.

And one of them looked down at me and said, hi, Scott. And then went back up on stage. And I was like, how did they know my name? I looked down. I'm not wearing a name tag. I was like, is it a cousin of mine or a relative of mine that has this job that I don't know about? I've never had it explained in my life. It must have been like a family friend or something.

Right. Or a teacher. Was it, right? Or a teacher. Was it a teacher? Maybe a teacher. But why not say it to, if it's a teacher, say it to all the kids. Like, hi, Scott. Hi, you. Hi, you.

And plus, it was one of those programs that was, you know, they'd obviously paid them money to come to the school and they go around to different schools. So it wasn't like a homegrown program of teachers and stuff like that it was all you know people that we didn't know right it must have been a family friend or a church friend or something like that that's so weird that's the only way that i can reconcile it in my mind and not that you know this clown had mind reading telepathy that's also like because I remember when Poltergeist came out, that's when this whole like clowns are scary thing started. They're back. Here's Johnny.

Ouch. Right? Phoning home now. They're phoning home. They have a bad connection. But isn't that where the whole aren't clowns scary thing start? That's an interesting question because, yeah, I do remember the clown suddenly he had a clown puppet. Look, I think this is an episode of I Love Films, first of all.

Oh, 100 percent. Hey, everyone, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're two guys, look, I'm just going to say it, it's right there in the title, we love films. Ugh, Scott, just saying that word, film, celluloid, it gets me going. I have three words for you that are going to get your juices flowing, my man. Sen.

Nem. Uh. Ugh. I love it. That just makes me want to jump up, run out to my local theater, get some corn, sit down, and watch a film. With corn on the cob just dripping dripping covered in butter just covered in butter that i got from the farmer's daughter that's right do you know that old joke no what is that i don't know something to do with this i i remember being you know eight

or so inches long and the penis and uh uh when i finally figured out that that's the only measure of age that we use correct it was one for every year i've been alive one inch your penis is 50 inches long 29 29 yeah 29 um. But I remember hearing that farmer's daughter trope and I was like, oh, our farmer's daughters. But I don't think that farmer's daughters were necessarily the best looking women in the world as much as the men who came upon them were traveling salesmen and just incredibly horny. Would you would you agree? Wait, what? them were traveling salesmen and just incredibly horny would you would you agree wait what so the farmer's daughters were always like forbidden fruit like don't touch my daughter and then the the traveling salesman sees them and they're and it's like boy this is like the best looking woman i've ever seen and that's what most of these farmer's daughters jokes are are predicated upon

the structure jesus i don't know i don't think i'm aware of this you haven't heard any of the farmer's daughter okay so i know the farmer's daughter motel in hollywood and you know the lyric in the beach boys song wish they all could be california girls they have midwest farmer's daughters blah blah blah blah blah blah okay so so it's a trope sort of in like old jokes where the setup is always like three traveling salesmen their car breaks down they go into a farm and the guy's like yeah you can sleep in my barn um yeah but uh just don't fuck my daughter and then they see the daughter it's like oh holy shit right okay the hot buttered corn one is is something to i i don't really remember but it has something to do with um sticking ears of corn

inside the look uh there's no way no other way to say this but inside the hoochie-coochie of the farmer's daughter. In any case, and then it was hot buttered corn. I don't recall the punchline, but maybe someone could look it up and let us know. But my point being. Good Lord. I don't, you know, so you hear about this and you're like, oh, farmer's daughters, farmer's daughters, Beach Boys. They love farmer's daughters. I think the traveling salesmen are just very, very horny.

And these are the first, you know, women they've seen in weeks. Right. Because back then, traveling salesmen, they traveled with blindfolds on at all times. Of course. Yes, of course. They didn't want to know where they were going. Basically, people put a hood over their face, threw them they were hostages yeah they were and it was it was al-qaeda was basically kidnapping they were running salesmen yeah they were running the kind

of underground uh kind of barter system that was our economy back in those that's right al-qaeda used to run our economy. If you notice money... By the way, is this an episode of If You Notice Money? Yeah. Hey, everyone. Welcome to If You Notice Money. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about things that are on

my personal god, that dollar dollar bill. Oh, man. The sweet, sweet. Just hearing the sound of change jingling in my old pock, that gets me going. Oh, boy. But there are a lot of things on money if you stare at it. Yeah. You've never even noticed it before.

Oh, there are pictures. I don't know if you've ever taken a look at uh the old the old currency we call it dollar bill turn turn that dollar bill that you undoubtedly have in your pocket right now i got a few of them turn it over there's a whole bunch of stuff on the back yeah there's i don't know if you've noticed but there are pictures but then also some writing yeah there's all kinds of stuff there's like a lot of people have never noticed there's a pyramid on money yeah if you've noticed money as far as noticing money have you noticed that the pyramid its top has exploded and it's in the process of shooting straight up into the sky it's's actually a volcano. Yeah, a lot of people have no idea.

Volcano pyramids. A lot of people have never noticed there are numbers on money, too. And no, I'm not talking about the serial numbers. We all have seen those. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know those because every dollar we get, we're checking to make sure is not on the FBI counterfeit list. Right, and as soon as you get any cash,

you have to put it in order of serial number in your wallet. Of course. Everybody does that. Everyone does that. And then wash your hands five times. Turn around as many times as there are cracks on the sidewalk. Of course. We all know that.

But you were saying if you know this with money. There are numbers on this money. They're in the corners. Yeah. money they're in the corners yeah and they're the numbers that correspond to how many monies monies is yeah it denotes the uh value of said uh currency so so take the one dollar bill for instance we all know it we all have a bunch of them yeah look in those corners or corns to bring it back to uh the farmer's daughter there are ones in the corners of this money incredible big old unos right in the right in the uh right in the old corn and this all has to do

with freemason shit and you know i mean we all, we all know our forefathers, you know, were all Freemasons and all, you know, had secret societies. Well, it's because Al-Qaeda was running the economy of, and it's Al, a guy named Al-Qaeda. It's not Al-Qaeda. It's a guy named Al-Qaeda, actually. Al-Qaeda. It was a living, breathing... I know what you're saying. Most owls are living and breathing unless they're in an owl cemetery.

Right. But this one wasn't. This was an owl that ran this sort of underground society of blindfolded salesmen. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Interesting.

Alright, here we are back and doing a wonderful episode of I Love Films. That's right. Second episode this week. Yeah, they're busy over there. They're really busy. Anyway, thanks for listening to I Love Films. We love you. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye.

Love you so much. Bye. So in any case, your hair is long. That's right. Is it as long as it's ever been? No, there's a movie I've seen you in where you had like almost shoulder length hair, or maybe it was Boy Meets World or something like that. Yeah, I've had long hair before, but not for years and years and years. Yeah.

So this is a really exciting time. Is Naomi ever going to cut those bad boys? Hairs. It's, you know what? It's going to be up to the old makers of the show how I'm just going to let it go and see where it all lands when we get back to work. So do you think your next haircut will be in production day one of shooting?

You'll, you'll be looking scraggly AF and you're just like, have at it, do whatever you want. Yeah. I think that is probably my next haircut, is whenever we... Like, we were...

All the sets are there. It's all built, ready to go. Those poor, lonely sets. Yeah, they're all just empty, beautiful, big sets. You know what I love is a good set. I love sets. Is this an episode what I love is a good set. I love sets.

Is this an episode of I Love Sets? Yes. Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Love Sets. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about sets. I know our-

Oh, sets. Sets. Our sister show, I Love Films, they talk about films from a macro level. Certainly, they talk about the sets, the actors, the directors, sets. Our sister show, I Love Films, they talk about films from a macro level. Certainly, they talk about the sets, the actors, the directors, everything. But we just focus right here on the sets. Yeah, and then there's the sports tennis-themed I Love Sets that we do not want to be confused with. We don't want to be confused with that. I know tennis is very popular these days um and everyone is is talking

about their favorite sets um you know agassi versus mackinrow the two tennis players i know as referenced earlier in the show in our sister show but um no this is about sets and films what is your favorite set in a film or i'll take a movie you mean movies that i've been in or just movies just movies in general i'll take the entire cinema history from the the train coming at the camera to bloodshot oh well and bloodshot the kind of bad guy headquarters yeah that's my favorite set i've ever seen wow what what is so special about it? It's just, it's cool because it looks like sort of a, an converted, like it's a warehouse, but they've converted it into a, uh, where is the warehouse?

Where? The warehouse. Yeah. It's, it used to be like a record store. Right. And they've converted into like a bad guy's headquarters. Okay. Interesting.

So it's just like, do, do people come in and they're, they start flipping through records Right. And they've converted into like a bad guy's headquarters. Okay. Interesting. So it's just like, do people come in and they start flipping through records in the background sometimes or? Yeah. And Vin Diesel is like. All right. This has been Nile of Sets. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Oh, God. I think even the host got bored of that. Yeah, I think you're right. All right. We're going to come right back.

This is, of course, you talking, talking heads to my talking head. We're going to come back. When we come back, we're going to be talking about Fear of Music, a great album by Talking Heads. We'll be right back with more after this. Welcome back. You talking, talking heads to my talking head. And we are talking about talking heads, but we're talking about the Talking Heads album, Fear of Music.

And before we got to that, Adam, we were talking about something on our last episode. We were talking about the Dennis Miller show episode that you went to. Apparently, you had so much time on your hands as a young out-of-work actor. I mean, I was a young out-of-work actor myself, but I was kind of using my time a little more wisely, like writing spec scripts and doing comedy performances. But you were just like sitting around the house. And so you had a lot of time. So you would go to see your favorite bands do talk shows. Well, to be fair, I was in school when this happened. And so you had a lot of time, so you would go to see your favorite bands, do talk shows. Well, to be fair, I was in school when this happened.

What grade were you in? I was at acting school. And so we went. Someone got tickets. And, you know, being in a studio audience, I already told the story. So you're... I'm a student. Your excuse for this is that you're in acting school and someone got you tickets okay good to know thanks adam um but uh what we were talking about was the fact that you yelled out uh in the

middle of a cowboy junkie song that's right you wooed or something like that i i don't really know well you yeah i i i yelled out because i thought the song you thought the song was ending yes and uh but we were trying to find the clip we could not but several sharp-eyed and sharp-eared viewers and listeners sent us the clip and we have it i've not heard this oh my god so uh uh we don't have dennis miller admonishing you at the end of the clip but we have the performance itself and i'm backing it up a little and we'll see if we can hear your woo okay um this is cowboy junkies playing southern rain and murder tonight in the trailer park from 1992 on the dennis miller show let's hear let's hear if we can hear Adam. The ringing of folks crazy

When I trade all my clear skies gladly For your blue eyes Your crooked smile And steady downpour And I'll have that into my heart That was it. Hold on, let's back up. Let's hear it again. And I'll have that into my heart

That's it. I would know that yeah anywhere oh man yeah and i was i loved the cowboy junkie so i was psyched so by the way by the way that's three minutes and 51 seconds or i would say maybe it's about 320 into their song 320 is about what a tv appearance usually lasts this song goes on no no that that's two songs oh it's two songs oh okay but this song like five seconds later the song does end she just keeps singing this is after the yeah A little bit must fall Though you'll never catch me complaining About too much of that southern breeze Let's hear if we can hear you now.

can hear you now it's almost like you were cowed into not saying yeah again like you your your yeah had been beaten out of you yeah i was very embarrassed okay can we do something can we get a clean you saying yeah so that someone uh can re-edit that song with you saying yeah after every time she stops singing. So let's get it right here. Go ahead. Get a little away from the mic and let's hear you say yeah. Yeah! Yeah!

One more a little higher pitched. Okay. Yeah! Perfect. All right. Someone please send us a re-edit of this video with any time she takes any kind of a breath. Put in a yeah. We'll have the Adam Scott re-edit of this. Oh, thank you so much to our listeners who sent us that.

Boy, I tell you, a lot of detectives out there are finding all of these little gems from the early 90s when you were doing extra work and sitting in studio audiences. I love it. I mean, if someone can find my Matlock episode, I just have it on a VHS tape. So if someone can find it, it's let's see, what can I remember from it?

First of all, Andy Griffith was red as a beet when he showed up. Are you saying he, did he he did he smell like booze? Not that I know. I didn't get close enough to basically I was an extra that he he I was in front of a mansion where a murder took place, like a murder of a Madonna like pop star or she was the suspect. I can't remember. And he had to make his way through the crowd to get to the police tape and so i was close enough to him that he was there discussing the

scene with the director and he sort of passed me by and you can see my like anthony michael hall and weird science haircut from behind and i'm wearing like a suit jacket they said like come nice come in nice clothes so i came in like a suit for a bystander oh my god we have to you have it on vhs i have it on vhs on youtube um but uh but then the only other thing that i remember is um mr griffith talking to the director and saying like now hold on hold on the the line as it's written doesn't make any sense and the director going well i think yeah it it means this and and and uh andy griffith saying like well who would say that that doesn't make any sense what do you mean i'm gonna change it to this and he changed it to something that didn't make any sense at all

and you can see the directors just checked out going like yeah okay yeah sure whatever whatever and so when you see the editor of the show, he then says this line, which doesn't make any sense. It really made me laugh. I was. No one cares. And no one cares because it was an episode of Madlock. I was 16 years old lying that I was 18. And because you had to be 18 in order to do it.

I did that in an episode of something called Downtown, I think, with the guy who played freddy krueger uh robert england it was a tv show that he had on cbs downtown i'm dancing in a bar i think it was a cop show and i was dancing in a bar uh even though there was no music that was when i learned that when you're when they have like a club scene in a bar they can't play the music because you can't record the dialogue over the music. Right. So they would play just a little snippet of like something peppy, and then it would go silent and you were just supposed to dance in place like the music was

happening. Oh, very embarrassing. I never saw that one, but the Matlock episode is out there if anyone can find it. All right. Well, we're talking about a little album called fear of music are you excited adam yeah this album is great it kicks assholes it kicks ass holes um 1979 august is when it came out. 1979, so still in the 70s. Recorded in Chris Fart's and Tina Verimouth's loft in Long Island City and also at the Hit Factory and the Record Plant. All in New York City. The genre, if I may be so bold as to say, it's new wave and psychedelic funk.

Psychedelic funk? Oh, the Wikipedia has a citation for that. Yeah, what is it? Let me click on that citation. It's the book Rip It Up and Start Again, Post-Punk 1978 to 1984, which I had until probably nine months ago when I gave away a lot of my books.

Why don't we just call it post-punk? Why new wave and psychedelic funk? I feel like it's neither of those things. I think it's more psychedelic funk than it is post-punk. I don't know. But who knows? Post-punk is very general. Post-punk to me, yeah i i wouldn't even know how to describe it but like you know perubu i guess is the prototypical post-punk i don't know we're getting in the weeds on this anyway fear of music it's uh 40 minutes and 40 seconds long 40 for 40 produced by guess who Oh, boy. Don't tell me. Yeah. Yeah. He's back. Oh, man. Guess who's back?

Oh, of course. Of course. Sucking on lemons. Oh, sour puss. Oh, sour puss. Brian. Of course, he has to rear his head right when we're starting to have fun. Oh, fuck.

Let's talk about the origins of Fear of Music. So this is the third album by talking heads and, um, they just had a big hit with take me to the river, a top 20 hit. And I like on the, uh, Wikipedia, um, they mentioned how, uh, they did Saturday night live and American bandstand with Take Me to the River. But after the performance, this quote says, they decided they did not want to be regarded simply as a singles machine. So Talking Heads didn't want to be just a singles band.

They wanted to be... Like an album band. An album band. All right. All right, sure. I don't know if they could have been a single. I mean, they had to hit singles, but I don't know whether they could have ever segued

directly into just being like a singles band, but it's a fanciful notion of whether they could have or not. First of all, they met and they did a bunch of demos and they were not satisfied with it um they didn't like the demos this also i was reading today from the the book that i just got the adventures of or this must be the place the adventures of talking heads in the 20th century by david bowman um he was mentioning that this was the first album where david byrne really took advantage of Mr. Byrne's, of course. He took advantage of the fact that George Harrison was in the band.

I mean, when you have a Beatle in the band. Yeah, why not use him? Why not use him? So I guess the first two records were sort of like written as Mr. Byrne's being the only guitar player in a way. Like he wrote all those songs before George Harrison joined the band. And this was the first record where he really decided to incorporate the advanced sonic palette that George Harrison... I mean, the guy wrote like, Something in the way she moves.

Yeah, and this album doesn't have Here Comes the Sun on it, does it? This one doesn't have Here Comes the Sun, I don't think. I think that was on a Beatles record, I think, is where it first premiered. I think it's in Stop Making Sense, but yeah. I mean, if you have this guy in your band, you got to use him, you know? Yeah. A lot of people called him the fourth beetle well i thought it was ringo star was ringo star was the third beetle and then he was the third

beetle george harrison was the fourth yeah i mean if you were counting it like this john lennon paul mccartney ringo star george harrison then george harrison is the fourth beetle you know what we should do we should do a um a podcast on the beetles to kind of just to give them a little little uh exposure why don't we do it right now okay from here comes the sun to a hard day's night this This is You Beating Around the Bush About the Beatles, the comprehensive and encyclopedia compendium of all things Beatles spelled with an A. This is good rock and roll music. Hey, welcome to the first episode of You Beating Around the Bush About the Beatles. And I want to introduce my co-host, Adam

Scott. Hey, everybody. The Beatles were a rock and roll band from Liverpool that existed in the 1960s. Yeah. They were really popular at the time. Okay, we'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye. Bye.

Good, Ed. Okay, we'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Good ep. Yeah. I think that's the start of something pretty great. I think it might be the end of something really great, too. Well, that's just as important as the beginning. Sure, sure. Act one and act three. But yeah, the Beatles were great.

And so when George Harrison joined the band, obviously Mr. Burns is there saying like, God, I got to use this guy. I mean, he wrote some of the best Beatles songs. Yeah. Here comes the sun. About time. So I will say, though, in Chris Fart's book,

Oh, yeah. Did youart's book, he. Oh, yeah. Did you get that book, by the way, on our last episode? Neither of us had gotten it. Yeah, I got it and I read it. And you read the whole thing. Yeah. I've read just a little sliver of it. OK.

Oh, wait a minute. No, I was reading the novelization of the movie Sliver. Oh, well, you got it. I mean, that's very good. Yeah. Quite different from the movie movie but in a good way movie's great is sharon stone naked in chris farts's book there is there's one time that uh she's naked but i also i had taken the novelization of sliver and i had pulled one chapter out of it

just ripped it right out yeah and i had forgotten where i had put it chapter out of it, just ripped it right out. Yeah. And I had forgotten where I had put it. Turns out I had accidentally put it into my Chris Farts book. Oh, using it as a bookmark. And then you just ended up reading those pages. I read those pages. That happens to me all the time. Right. It's so confusing.

I remember the first time I read the Bible, I was like, what is this old man having sex with a teenager for? And I'd ripped out Lolita. Happens to the best of us. Although I think in the Bible, a lot of old men probably had sex with teenagers as well in that. Yeah, but they didn't have lollipops back then. So that's how you tell the difference. Yeah. Man, if they had had lollipops during Bible days.

Can you imagine Moses spending 40 years in the desert and him going like, it's not so bad. I got this little lollipop, haven't I love? With the sea parting around him and he's just like, and, and, and. I mean, coming from a candy boy like yourself. Yeah, well, I know my stuff. You certainly do. i know my candy

um what are we talking about this chris farts's book yeah he disputes that david burn just cold wrote all these songs yeah i don't know i don't know what to think i've gotten up to the fear of music part um apparently more than once there were band meetings where it was like music by talking heads words david byrne and he agrees to it and then they get the first pressings of the album and it says words and music by david byrne right and then and then that also happened with uh i believe the song warning sign uh chris yes fart says that he wrote the words to it and then when he got the album it was like words and music by david bernie had to say like oh no remember uh yeah i don't know also that book i uh i haven't gotten to the end of it yet i know you have um the the book that i most liken it to

is and i don't know whether you've you've read this or just seen the movie, but American Psycho. Have you ever read that book? No, no. I saw the movie. Okay. So the book, it was actually very influential on me when I read it back in like 1988 or 9 or whenever it came out. Because it kind of played around with what a book could do. with what a book could do because it would just go on for pages about every hair care and moisturizer product that it was all about like the things he had right yeah and then a whole

chapter would be devoted to just reviewing a huey lewis in the news album right um but it reminds chris farts his book reminds me of that because i swear to God, I've only gotten up to fear of music, but he lists everything he ate every single day of his life. I do not. I do not know how he remembers. He talks about the food. He was journaling, I guess.

Everywhere. He based this book on, on the notes he made in his journal. But as if it were me, I would read my journal and read that i ate at a certain restaurant that day that i did a certain show and i would say well that's probably not gonna make it into the real book but it is read it again it is just filled if you and for our listeners if you read it and i hope you do because obviously we're big fans of chris farts here as well as tina very mouth um but uh uh just read it with an eye on anytime

food is mentioned and he doesn't all the way up to the end when they're being inducted to the rock and roll hall of fame you find out all about the shrimp they had at the party afterwards oh boy i can't wait to get to that um it's very charming and and sweet that he like remembers all of that and the songwriting stuff that's just one person's sure i mean who knows with that who knows i mean as far as i'm concerned uh on the television show comedy bang bang i wrote every sketch but maybe the writers would dispute that who knows but i'm know, I'm the one with a podcast. There you go. You're the one that gets to say it. They don't have podcasts. Okay, so they were dissatisfied with these demos that they were doing.

So instead, what they decided to do was run a lot of electrical cables up to Chris Fart's and Tina Verimouth's loft in New York City. And they just jammed. They just fucking jammed. Well, yeah, but Chris Fartson and Tina Verymouth, what they did, they almost tricked David, Mr. Burns, and George Harrison into coming over to start. Like, those guys were not motivated to start. They didn't want to do another record.

And so they, they were kind of like, Hey, we're jamming up in the loft. Do you want to come over? Like no agenda, just jamming. But,

but here's how they tricked Mr. Burns into coming over. Cause he was being obstinate according to their book. They called up old sourpuss himself and said, hey, we're jamming, do you want to come out and play with us? And old Sourpuss was like, hmm, I don't play an instrument, I don't know what good I'll be, love. And they were like, we're just fucking around.

God, put a goddamn smile on your face. Jesus fucking Christ. And he was like, oh, you make a good point, love. I'll be right over. And so they're jamming, you make a good point, love. I'll be right over. And so they're jamming. And then they call up Mr. Burns and they say, hey, Brian's over here jamming with us. Do you want to come by? And like they hear a pew.

And then suddenly there's like a Mr. Burns shaped hole in their wall because he's come in like the Kool-Aid man. He's like, old sourpuss is here? Where? So that's how they started jamming for these sessions. And some really good songs came out of them. We'll talk about them a little later. Also, some interesting things that happened during the making of this record. Mr. Burns was in his loft in Alphabet City and he was robbed as as he describes it he likes to sleep in the nude what that's what he said he mr burns who says mr burns and he likes he liked to sleep with the windows open i guess

maybe it was hot maybe it was summertime in new york city um he liked to sleep in the nude with the windows open and he woke up and there was um, he heard like what he thought were mice scratching around. And he was like them, some loud ass mice. And so he sits up in his bed and he sees this dude in his loft just going through his stuff. So he says to himself, well,

I want to go confront the guy, but I'm nude. And if I, and if I the guy, but I'm nude. Yeah. And if I confront the guy and I'm nude, the guy will just laugh at me because there's my dirty dick just swinging in the wind. Yeah, you can't have your dirty old dick right out there for everyone to see. So as silently as he can, he slips on underwear and a T-shirt and then he confronts the guy and he's like hey man get out of my house get out of my house and the guy is startled and is about to but instead grabs a letter opener and then puts it to mr burns's neck and says i know you have money give me your money

and mr burns is like I'm not an envelope. What are you doing? I think I read in the quote that he was thinking that he thought that the letter opener might be kind of not sharp. And he didn't really know how sharp letter openers were, which I think they're sharp. I think he's wrong on that account. I think letter openers are somewhat sharp. I don't know if you can slit a throat with a letter opener. I feel like I've seen a movie where someone like slit a throat with a letter i feel like i've seen

a movie where someone slit someone's throat with a letter open anyway i wouldn't i wouldn't want to i wouldn't want to leave it to fate i don't know um so he just he just went along with it and said yeah grab whatever you want and after about an hour the guy left with some stuff with some stuff i guess yeah i mean thank god not the master tapes to Fear of Music. So this was during the recording of said album? Yes, this is during the recording, and he was living in Alphabet City, which... Did you watch the Go-Go's documentary, by the way? No. Is it good? Yeah, it's really good. Kulap and I watched it the other night. It's really good.

I saw them at the Troubadour on one of their reunion. Gee, why didn't that make it into the movie? I don't know. They were great. They're great. They're great. But the one thing I wanted to mention is they talk about Alphabet City during the time period, and they say it's really sketchy.

They were talking about how, oh, what's her name in the go-go's guitarist wrote jane weedland no no no no no no no no no no no no no bonnie bedelia bonnie bedelia yes uh bonnie bedelia um she would when they moved to new york she would always be in alphabet city um scoring heroin and that's uh the the member of the gogos who got kicked out saw her there because the member of the gogos who got kicked out was so upset that she moved away from california to new york because she didn't want to run into any of the gogos so wow so i didn't know they had kicked someone out i gotta watch this yeah it's it's really good it's a really good documentary but um she saw her in alphabet city and she and she's good she says oh that's when i knew that she must have a drug problem because what else are you doing in alphabet city so i was surprised to

learn that david uh mr burns was living in alphabet city which from all accounts was a sketchy area back then but who knows he was on the eighth floor, he said. Let's see. Any other background we want to talk about for Fear of Music? I mean, I don't know. I mean, E. Zimbra is a big leap forward. Yeah, we'll talk about it when we get there. Tell you what, why don't we take a break? When we come back, we will talk about all of the songs in Fear of music this is you talking talking heads to my talking head we'll be right back welcome back you talking talking heads to my head. We're talking about fear of music on this episode.

And Adam, you bought this record, not when it came out, but after Stop Making Sense, you went backwards and bought this? Yeah, but I think even later than that. I think I was in high school by the time I started really digging in and kind of developing my own sort of taste. And this came with a bunch of other CDs in the Columbia House Club that I joined. Did you use your own name? I know we've talked about this before, but you i use sign up many different names we've talked about it right yeah i used i i used wiggy wigbert i used uh my alias i used travis bickle and uh i'm a film fan yeah dare we do our third episode of I Love Phil? I don't know.

I was about to talk and instead something got caught in my throat. You got a throat full of saliva? Oh, boy. I don't know. When people say something got caught in my throat, it's always saliva, isn't it? Always. It's like 99 times out of 100 it's saliva and then that one time it's cum. Yep. All right.

Always the time when you're like with all your friends. And your boss is there and you're waiting to hear if you got that big promotion and instead- You have the presentation at work. And instead you open your mouth and just like, cum dribbles out. Just an entire mouthful falls out onto the table. Okay, let's talk about Yzimbra. Do you want to hear a little bit of it first? Yeah, let's listen to it. Here we let's talk about Yzimbra.

Do you want to hear a little bit of it first? Yeah, let's listen to it. Here we go. This is Yzimbra, first track. Thank you. Yes, Izembra. Izembra. Yes, Isimbra. Now, this is a, this was born out of a kind of a jam, although it says it's written by Mr. Burns, old sourpuss. And, well, the lyrics were written by Hugo Ball. Right. It's an old poem, yeah well hugo ball so essentially this

sounds like sort of an african song but um mr burns was having a lot of writing a writer's block at the time um he found everything he wrote to be kind of stupid and so um old sourpuss was like, well, oh, my mouth, the corners of my mouth hurt from frowning. So it's difficult to talk, David. But what if you were to use gibberish, gibberish language? You know, every once in a while thatbie downer comes up with a pretty good idea he does and you know someone would say sourpuss thank you so much he'd say please i don't accept compliments they make me unhappy which my normal state is unhappy so they make me the opposite they make me unhappy of unhappy which is happy which is not what i like to be you know i i according to the book at least i believe

he's said this is a jam it sounds like a jam all wrote together and then suddenly the record comes out and it says david byne and Brian Eno wrote it. And they were just like, what? This is Robert Fripp on guitar, by the way. It's just incredible. But it feels like fundamentally that's what ended up breaking the band up is like just songwriting stuff. Yeah. I mean, that's honestly, if you watch that gogo's documentary it's it covers similar

territory really yeah yeah um i think you two and rem were just smart to just blanket every play oh do they do the same yeah they do well they they did it because they saw it worked for you two and and rem they were like we don't want to be in that situation um yeah so so basically this is all sort of gibberish um from a a hugo ball uh uh dada poem from the dada movement and uh uh kind of like it it's sort of uh reminiscent of the felakuti stuff that uh brianino was so into when he first met uh the talking heads and uh kind of reminds me of of sort of what uh malcolm mclaren did with um adam and the ants uh and bow wow wow and stuff like that where he took rhythms from from other countries and put it like an english sensibility on it which i think we'll talk more in detail about in our next episode,

because that album has more of that. What do you think of he's Zimbra? I love it. I think it's great. It's it's, it's incredible. I think it's a great album opener and it's just sounds weird and fresh and hooky and,

and dancey. And it's great. We have have how about you yeah uh similarly it was uh when i first put it on i was surprised because this didn't really seem like it was the type of music that talking heads put out but uh uh definitely hooky and I find myself walking around the house just singing my own gibberish to it. Yeah. You know, because I could I'm sweeping the floor

my name is Scott Aukerman yes, oh yes. Like that? Yeah, sort of like that. I have to constantly remind myself of what my name is. So that helps with it. Work it into the lyrics. There are so many songs on this album that just get earwormed into my head yeah what's what's interesting about it is it is it is the one song on the record that is not lyrically similar to the rest of the record yeah so the rest

of the we should talk about sort of the the as a whole. And the record has a whole. I mean, it certainly did in its vinyl and CD incarnations right there in the center. Oh yeah, you had to have one. But basically what Mr. Burns is doing in this record is he's, old sourpuss had suggested to him, hey, what if the track listing was more like a table of contents? And so it's a lot of one word titles and what mr burns does with these is he takes like one word and then he sort of deconstructs it and finds a unique take on it which we'll talk about when each one comes up but e zimbra is the

only song on the record that doesn't do that i also read something interesting about the record which said that uh mr burns wanted to with all of those one word titles he wanted you to be able to replace the music in fear of music with that with that word and that would be what the song was about so paper for instance he wanted the lyrics to be fear of paper essentially or fear of drugs so it's a very interesting it's a very paranoid album where every subject that he's talking about seems to be written from the point of view of a narrator who is paranoid and afraid of of what the subject matter is even though these subject matters are uh very mundane items uh yeah and we'll get into that a little bit. Also, I wanted to talk about the cover,

which I don't know if you had it as a record, as a vinyl record, Adam. I think my brother did. How it has like the... Embossed. Yeah. Like it's a tire, right? It has an embossed pattern,

which when you would get the record, usually when you would get a record, it's just like shiny and flat. And this one was like, had a raised embossed pattern all over it. And I read that George Harrison really wanted to do this. He designed this, I think. And he saw this pattern somewhere. I can't remember where it was but he saw it at some store and he was like hey can you how much of this can you make me can you make like you know yards and yards and yards and yards of it and they're all like yeah sure we can do that and

it was supposed to be rubber and then they got the cost of it it was just going to be way too much money so instead they found someone else who could do it more in the cardboard kind of sleeve. But it definitely sort of blew my mind because you had never seen a record with an embossed, raised sleeve like that before. And would you say it's like a tire track? Yeah, it sort of looks like that.

It's kind of like X's. It sort of looks like a Goodyear. And then the Talking Heads and the title of the album are sort of in what looks like almost a neon light. Yes, a very antiseptic, no personality font in a way. And then Pet Shop Boys, of course, stole this idea for their album, Very, where they had a raised um embossed uh uh record sleeve as well and uh but talking heads as far as i know were the first

ones to do it so were the beatles the first ones with white album because the the that was stamped right wasn't that i don't think it was like right no the the actual type the beatles is embossed that's what i mean i thought it was more i thought it was more like an indentation, like stamped into it, but it was raised, really? I never had it as a vinyl. I just got it last night at Target. What? They have like a pretty good record selection at Target. It was weird.

What the fuck are you doing hanging around the record section of a Target during quarantine for? That's all I do. That's all I do. That's all I do. So back to the original point, E Zimbra is the one sort of outlier, I think of lyrically of this, where that's the only sort of thing that makes it stand apart or unique or not like the rest of the record to me.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right, let's go to track two. This is the first example of one of these one-word title songs. This is Mind. Mind. Time won't change you. Money won't change you.

I haven't got the faintest idea. Everything seems to be up and here at this point. I need something to change your mind I need something to change your mind I need something to change your mind. I need something to change your mind. Mind. So lyrically, it seems he's definitely trying to get someone to change their mind obviously um but it always seemed to me like he's acting like they're the inflexible one but he seems very rigid

about his point of view and and like almost like he's trying to control them in a way like i need you to change your mind i'm i need something to try, I need you to change your mind. I need something to try to figure out how to change your mind about this, which I always thought was interesting. Yeah, it kind of seems like the narrator of all these songs is sort of out of ideas and a bit sort of out of control. Someone called it like a drug album

where all of the narrators seem like they're paranoid and on a certain drug that's affecting their mental faculties in a way. I'm not sure if I subscribe to that theory, but yeah, I definitely don't think that the person the narrator is talking to is the problem. It seems like the narrator is. Yes. That is mind i i really like that song a lot i think it's

and and sonically i think you know as opposed to the last record more songs about buildings and food where it seemed like uh old sourpuss was putting weird sounds on top of songs that were already written um as as like the 77 songs. And it's like, okay, let's polish these turds. Not that they were turds because they're good songs, but you know what I mean? It seemed like it was a layer on something that already existed. All of these songs sound like they are written for Brian Eno to fuck around with. They were like born from this.

Yeah. This new way of playing. Yeah. All right, let's go to Paper. This is track three. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hold the paper Up to the light Somewhere is passed right through

Expose your stone Up there for a minute Somewhere is passed right through Take a little rest In the raised class Take a little rest And raise pass through Take a little time off When it raise pass through Go ahead, mix it up

Go ahead, tie it up Long distance Telephone call Hold on To that paper Hold on To that paper Hold on Paper. Paper.

What do you think, Adam? Yeah, more paranoid ramblings i was well i was reading it today and here's what i think of the lyrics and bear in mind this is from the point of view of a dumb guy me um so he talks about paper uh and how when you hold it up to the light, rays of light shine through it, which is an interesting thing. I mean, because paper exists, it's a thing, so why should you see light through it? You know what I mean? It's like an interesting thing. Huh.

So then he's talking about writing, I think, for a while, where you write stuff on the paper, but then you can still see through it. Now, when we write stuff down on paper, it's like what is usually written on paper is like facts and stuff. So why should you be able to see through something when you write it down on paper? I don't know. Anyway, I'm blowing my own mind when I think about this.

You mean that's what this person writing about it thought or this is what David Byrne was talking about? This is what he was sort of talking about, I think, is the fact of the sort of impermanence of ideas maybe and how uh it all starts with this ordinary thing of paper that a lot of things go on books and ideas and his lyrics and stuff and the fact that it's see-through and that that rays of light come through it is an interesting idea anyway i don't know that was my interpretation of it um that is paper um it's it's a that one is a little harder to understand i think than some like the next song cities i think is pretty straightforward yeah and cities is a real catchy this is a jam song this is track four cities The Slow Fade Up Dark in the daytime People sleep Sleep in the daytime If they want to If they want to

I'm checking them out I'm checking them out I got it figured out I got it figured out Good points Some bad points And all but enough I'm a loosey-dousey

Find a city I'm a simple city To live in So this is the narrator basically taking the idea of cities and what city you're going to live in. And he's like stressing out about choosing what city he's going to live in, which I mean, technically, no one ever really chooses what city they're going to live in, like from a list of cities. Right. It's like usually, you know, you move to a city because, oh, they have a job that I want or I have friends there, family there. But it's interesting to view it as like a guy looking at a list of cities and going, OK, which one do I live in? Yeah. And being afraid of them like he's like London. It's dark and it's dark during the daytime. I don't know. Yeah. Got to find myself a city to live in.

Some people have called this kind of like a comedy record when you look at the lyrics. Really? I noticed two reviews that said it's a very funny record and almost a comedy record, which I think is interesting. Okay, this is track five. Yes. I just think that's a Stone Cold classic. That's a great great jam uh one of the best on the record and speaking of great jams this is one of uh talking heads most

iconic songs maybe top five songs uh that people know from them this is uh track number five this is life during wartime. I've been ready to go. Heard of some great sites. I found a highway. A place where nobody knows. The sound of gunfire. Far from the distance. I'm getting used to it now. Lived on a brownstone.

Lived in a ghetto. I've lived all over this town. This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no fooling around. No time for dancing. No lovey-dovey. I ain't got room for that now.

Transmit the message to the receiver. Hope for an answer someday. I got three passports, a couple of visas. Life During Wartime, classic. I think that's a perfect song. I mean, I even prefer the Stop Making Sense version even more. It's pretty close, though. I think it's incredible.

I think when I heard it, I kind of assumed it might have been about Vietnam. And I read someone talk about how they think it's from the point of view of someone in the Viet Cong. But most of the lyrics don't line up to that. And I actually read an interesting quote from Mr. Burns where he says he wrote it in his loft on 7th and Avenue A and he was thinking about Bader Meinhof, Patty Hearst, Tompkins Square. This is a song about Alphabet City.

I think it's sort of like a dystopian future song. Yeah, he's talking about all the different cities that are shutting down and yeah it's like uh it's sci-fi patty patty hearst it once i read that i was i clicked into it because i i recently had read the great uh biography of patty hearst by jeffreyin, which is really interesting. I didn't really know anything about that period of time, even though I was alive. Um, but you know,

just the whole, like being with the Symbionese liberation army. Yeah. Um, it's sort of the point of view of someone who's in one of those, like in a tight, you remember how they were all hiding out in like burnt out, you know,

homes and stuff like that. Remember the one that daryl gates like shot up on live television yeah it's crazy crazy the fact the fact that like there were so many bombs going off in the early to mid 70s everywhere in the united states i don't remember that it's it's crazy to me no there is so much 70s like-Vietnam craziness in this country that has just sort of faded. People don't really remember. Yeah. Like I saw the movie Running on Empty, you know, that one about the couple who changed their identities.

River Phoenix. Yeah, River Phoenix. And I was always like, oh, what is, they bombed somewhere? I didn't really know. But just to know that bombs were just fucking going off everywhere and usually people would try to wait and they were government buildings like post offices and stuff where they would wait till after hours when they knew no one would be in there yeah um but every once in a while there'd be like a janitor or something who would get killed anyway it's a crazy time in history uh it's an interesting book you should

read it okay so this is the last song on on side one this is memories can't wait and this is a trip here we go Do you remember anyone here? No, you don't remember anything at all. I'm sleeping on my back. Never woke up. There's a party in my mind And I hope it never stops There's a party up there all the time And they'll party till they're dry And the people can't go home This is definitely the most, like, oppressive and, like, sonically heavy song on the record.

It really is one of these ones where it's like, oh, wow, I don't think it would really exist without old Sour Puss. You know, like, it's just a really good song because of his influence, I think. Although, the band Living Color did a cover of it. Oh, yeah. That's a little more just of a normal, like a rock cover. Let's hear a little bit of that and see. Comparatively. For a read.

Yeah. Corey Glover. Can you name another person in Living Color? Corey Glover. Can you name another person in Living Color? Corey Glover. I just did. Oh, you did? I saw them. I've seen them. I saw them with

listen to this lineup. Steadasonic first. Steadasonic? Yeah, a hip hop band. Do not remember them then living color then public enemy who did three songs i think before they had to shut it down because of riots this was right after the run dmc long beach uh so when concert when someone was killed um and then fishbone did two hours after that.

That's awesome. What an incredible show. Anyway, it sounds a little antiseptic compared to the old Sourpuss version, don't you think? Yeah, they didn't really do a ton to it. But it's just... I mean, I remember liking it because I... Me too.

I was not as familiar with the Talking Heads version. Which record is that from of Living Color? That's from uh vivid their their debut that has cult of personality and all that that's a good record i like i loved uh that single off their second album i thought that was great the is it times up yeah i forget what the single was called but i think it's uh type maybe stereo type type yeah all right so that is that's the end of uh side one and we're moving on to side two now this is uh another entry into the one word title um taking an ordinary thing and mr burns got excited by this idea of ordinary things seeming dangerous and oppressive

and this is like the most extreme example of it. This is called Air. And it's about the narrator is so afraid of air, he's afraid to breathe. Because of what might be in the air. This is Tina Verimouth and her sister singing. And Tina Verimouth's just doing great work on this record with her bass guitar. Hell yeah. Yeah. I'm a bastard bastard, bastard, bastard, bastard

faster than you think you are I say to myself What is happening to my skin? Where is that protection that I needed? Good shit. Another classic. So far, never had experience with good shit another classic so far seven classics in a row on this record unbelievable um for a while this was my favorite of theirs uh let's go to the next track this is track eight and this is another sec this is heaven and this was a song that mr burns wasn't even going to write i think but he was humming the melody he thought it was too stupid

or something uh and he was humming the melody in old sourpuss like on an atypical day i don't know whether it was his birthday or it was christmas or something, but he lit up and was like, what a beautiful melody, David, you must write it. It is. Did he actually smile? He may have. I don't know. It's crazy. Who knows what's up with that guy?

But this is heaven. Everyone is trying To get to the bar The name of the bar The name of the bar The bar is called Heaven The band in Heaven They play my Favorite song Play it once again

Play it all night long Never Never is a place A place where nothing Nothing ever happens Good shit. The first time you heard this is probably Stop Making Sense, right? Because he and Tina do a duet on it. Yeah, but that wasn't on the album.

That was only in the movie. So you didn't really remember it. So this is the version that you know the best? Yeah, yeah. I love the talk the stop making sense uh version though but yeah this is a great this is a great one heaven is a place where nothing really happens um pretty sacrilegious i have to yeah because as we all know that's where all the best stuff happens. You got Jimmy on guitar. It's what we're all trying to do. Just get to heaven, man.

Hell yeah. Okay, so then we have three tracks left. And after eight Stone Cold classics, this is where the album for me takes a little bit of a dip. As far as I'm concerned. I don't know about you, uh let's hear a song called animals i'm mad that's a fact i don't know

i don't know i don't think pretty smart I found out, and I'm gonna store it up I'm gonna think, I'm pretty smart Show the brown, see the dark I wander around like a crazy dog And I'm not saving up for a remark I'm always looking into things What do we think, Adam? I really like this song. I think it's cool.

This actually does, when I think of post-punk, this is what post-punk is to me. Like, not very melodic and with that guitar sound. Anyway, it sounds a little unfinished to me. Yeah. Not my favorite. The idea, though, that animals... though that animals i think he's basically like rubbing up against the idea of animals being this majestic part of you of uh uh life on earth and uh just boiling it down to like they shit on the floor they see in the dark they think they're so smart uh yeah i kind of have it i'm being

afraid of of animals it's a little the idea of them yes the idea of this. It's a little... But also contemptuous of them. Yes. The idea of the song is maybe a little first drafty. Like, it's... I don't know. First draft, best draft. That's what I say. That's what I say with my comedy. It's not the best song on the record, but I do like it. This is the next song.

We have two more. The next is called Electric Guitar. And this is, from what I can tell, something about the electric guitar being outlawed in the future. It is? Something like that. Anyway, let's hear it. Oh, right. This is the way it's gonna play Tune this electric guitar Tune this electric guitar

Tune this electric guitar Tune this electric guitar Electric guitar To This Electric guitar Electric guitar What do you think, Adam? I really like this, too. I think it's, like you said before, I think it's very CBGB-ish

and weird and art-school-y in the late 70s, and I like it. This record is sort of sequenced to me like a netflix reality show like uh queer eye or nailed it where they put the best episodes at the front beginning of the season at the beginning of the season because they they the studies show that if you watch i think it's like 60 of a season you'll watch it all the way to the end even if the last episode suck and they usually put the terrible ones at the end. Anyway,

that's, that's how I feel about this record. Um, and this is the last song. This is drugs. It used to be called electricity, but then, um,

Mr. Burns did a rewrite and made it about drugs. So let's hear drugs. Again with the long fade-up. Thank you. so yeah i never really had a lot of patience for this one. There we go. One minute and a half in, and he started singing. Not my favorite either, probably. Do you want to hear a little bit of the previous version when it was electricity?

See if you like it better? Sure. Yeah, about the same. Okay, anyway. Okay, so that is Fear of Music. Adam, what do we think? I think it's terrific, and it's, you you know what is it 10 songs 11 11 songs and was it eight stone cold classics yeah that's a high high ratio that's pretty high any other band to hit that other than maybe the cars or pretenders on their first records i agree with you that those last three are not sccs but but you enjoy them yeah except

drugs i would just leave that off maybe well without drugs we're uh we're only at the 35 minute mark on the record which you know back in the 70s was fine but uh in any case uh yeah i think this is this record is one that uh really seems to me like the collaboration between them and Old Sourpuss is finally clicking on all cylinders and perhaps even into overdrive. Got those cylinders going. So a couple of things happened when they went on tour with this record, which will sort of set up our next episode. First of all, they had trouble playing these songs live, um, with just the four of them. And they were kind of not really able to figure out how to best to do it.

And I think that's what sort of got them into thinking, Hey, we should hire people to go on the road with us for the next record because their songs had gotten way too complicated for them as a four-piece um and then on the on the tour um a guy named adrian blue went to go see them and he was david Bowie's guitar player. And George Harrison, who is a great guitar player, I mean, lead guitarist at the Beatles, he saw Adrian Ballou in the crowd, I think before the show and recognized him

and which Adrian Ballou was always like, he recognized me, David Bowie's guitar player. But George Harrison was really into him and was like, hey, why don't you play with us uh during our encore and adrian blue was like well what song um because he wasn't really a big fan of talking heads he says and he and he said a psycho killer play can you play psycho killer he goes i don't really know it he goes that's fine just like do a guitar freak out at the end. It'll be great. So he goes and he does like a five minute solo that's just fucking crazy.

And everyone goes apeshit for it. And that's where they meet Adrian Ballou, who will factor into further episodes down the line. And I did read one quote from, I think, Tina Verimouth, who said that Mr. Burns was so impressed with that solo, he started to try to play it like Adrian blue afterwards, but he, but he couldn't quite do it.

Right. Yeah. And so it, it sounded shittier after that, um, whenever they would play it, but, um,

hilarious, but, uh, so Adrian blue will factor into further episodes. And then, um, the other thing that happened during this tour is, uh,

Tina and Chris farts are doing an interview, I think after their final show in Europe or something. And on this tour, on this tour, and the interviewer says to them, just kind of casually, he drops. So what are you guys going to do now that David Byrne has quit the band oh yeah and they're like what and he goes yeah oh yeah yeah i you know interviewed uh mr burns and he mentioned that he was never going to work with you guys again yeah and they're like well uh he didn't tell that to us and then when they tried to follow up, he had already left Europe and he was gone. There's all kinds of weird maneuvers like that throughout their run. Yeah. According to Chris Farts.

Who knows if they will ever make another album ever again. But I got word while we were listening to all of that from good old Chef Kevin over here that Kevin, I believe, says that he's found my Matlock clip. No way. Really? I believe so. So take it away. Take it away, Kevin. He's found the clip and the weird line. So here we go. go oh that's it there i am do you see me that's you that's you that's me i mean that's a head of hair i have a bushy like a bushy haircut that's very full up top and then sort of like shaved on the sides in the back a little bit and you can tell you're trying to really act real i'm trying like you're looking yeah yeah there because obviously my back is to the camera and i'm like you know unless i make a lot of motions no one's ever going to notice me oh my god okay let's hear the matlock

line oh it would be i think it would be just right after this, Kevin, actually. In the same shot, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, maybe they cut it out. Because it just cuts to him. Oh, yeah. What are you doing here, Ben? Okay, let's pause it.

I think they cut that scene out. Which one were you looking for, Kevin? Because you found a really weird line. Well, Tyler, that was a very successful trip to Charleston. It sure was. You know, I met this guy at the airport. He's got a truckload of frozen pie crust. I get my hands on those suckers, I'm going into the Christmas pecan pie business.

You know what? I was driving through this little town one time. It wasn't really a town. It was just a general store with a gas pump out front. While I was gassing up, I went in, and I saw the walls of the general store were just lined with these bags of salt. So I said to the fellow, I said, you must sell a lot of salt. He said, no, I don't sell much salt. But the fellow that sells me salt, now he sells salt.

Oh, wow. What? Wow. Wow. That's some corn pone country wisdom there um yes now that i watch it i recall that essentially i was upset when that when the episode came out because he did a whole scene with me like facing more towards camera with me like looking at them yeah and and and uh uh andy griffith like fucked up the line so bad that when i saw it i was like of course they cut it out like what he

said didn't make any sense anymore so you'd now only see it as an establishing shot but uh kevin what what uh episode is that from it's season one episode nine or something is that what uh if people want to take a look at it uh he says yes um very good so that is my matlock uh what what do you think what an entree into incredible into it's worth lying about your age for that one i think it was worth it for the i think what did i get paid as i recall i was there all day like 55 it was probably 55 but uh oh 55 i really needed at the time so i was very happy to get it um well that is going to do it for us this uh uh fear of music classic record we won't say exactly where it fits on our uh rankings of them but uh this is a pretty good one, don't you think? Pretty good.

Pretty good, bro. Pretty good, bro. All right, we are going to be back next week talking about their next record. That is, of course, Remain in Light. And until then, there's nothing else to say other than we certainly hope that you have found what you're looking for.

Bye. Thank you.