U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head? - Little Creatures

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Scott and Scott discuss the Talking Heads’ best-selling sixth studio album “Little Creatures.” They also talk about states with a lot of zip codes, movies set in New York, and crashing jet skis....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From E to Zimbra, this is you talking talking heads to my talking head. The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things talking heads. This is good rock and roll. Music. Music. To the moon, Alice! Straight to the moon with my fist, I punch you. Was that the catchphrase? That was exactly it. You nailed it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm gonna beat you senseless and send you to the moon in a rocket. I'm gonna wallop you till your face is black and blue. I am gonna make you bleed from your face because of my punches. What a wonderful catchphrase. It was a different time, but a time I think that maybe was a better time. Oh, most assuredly. 100%. Jesus, who is that guy? The guy who said most assuredly yeah i liked it yeah new voice for you i really enjoyed it um welcome to the show this is you talking talking heads to my talking head a very important i don't know why i said very important not really important nothing about this show is important. Absolutely not. But a very exciting?
Starting point is 00:01:48 It's not even exciting. I don't know what to call. What would you call today's show? I think if I were to try and encapsulate the show in a sentence, first thing I would do is excise the words interesting and exciting. Wait, exciting and important. Throw interesting in there too, but I would excise that as well.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Those three words cannot be in the sentence. Scintillating, of interest, remarkable. And none of these apply. Yeah, nothing applies to this show and we apologize look it's taken us this many episodes we apologize we don't know why you're listening very sorry but uh at least we're we're broing out and listening to some good tunes and that's what this show is all about and what can you expect you know what i mean um But we do have a show, certainly. And the subject matter of today's show is the album Little Creatures.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We will be talking about the 1985 album Little Creatures, Talking Heads, best-selling album. We will be talking about that coming up in a little bit before, but before that. It's hard to say bit, but. In a little bit before. Bit, but. Little bit of butt. Like that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Just a little bit of butt. Sort of. Just a little bit. Just please give me just a little bit of butt. Just a little. Please. Just a little bit. Bit. Also not interested in meeting that guy nope you have a collection of of people that uh i would never want to run into on the street sketchy dudes
Starting point is 00:03:36 speaking of the street though we'll talk about this uh in a little bit but i want to introduce you across from me and when i say across from me i'm talking 3 000 miles across from me and we'll talk about this in a little bit uh you know him from krampus you know him from piranha double d or triple d or something like that you know him from no no i wasn't in that one oh that's is that the sequel i apologize i'm I apologize. I'm sorry to accuse you of being in what you consider to be an inferior sequel. Piranha Double D. Yeah, I was not in that. Were you asked to be in it and then you saw just Double D on the title page and said,
Starting point is 00:04:16 Nope. Because I was killed in the original. Not that that would have stopped. Yes. But I apologize. I don't remember the particulars of the Piranha film. Sheer's shears and a double d and i believe ving rames is as well at least in the prologue yeah i think i saw both of them although do i remember them no um but uh you know him from all of those movies and then uh as a side hustle he occasionally acts in tv shows
Starting point is 00:04:42 um trying to get that green, trying to chase that paper. And you know him from one called Parks and Recreation. Please welcome Adam Scott. Hey, everybody. To my left, we've got the man, the number one fan of all things, Scott Ackerman, everybody. Yeah, hey, everybody. Oh, wait, that's your thing thing uh yeah just change it up a little bit and you can be your thing hey every one person is person yeah everyone everyone well
Starting point is 00:05:15 everybody yeah that's great everyone hey everyone every person named one hey saying hello to all sure of course we got uh one uh i'm trying to think of any person named Juan. Can you think of any? Valdez? Valdez? Who's that? Isn't he the man on the old, like super old racist coffee commercials?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Juan Valdez, picture coffee. Oh yeah, I guess so. Hey, what do you think about the Land O'Lakes girl? Also racist. Also racist, but those titties am i right oh well listen uh once something's racist i cannot see beyond that is this an episode of but those titties i believe so They give me shivers when they bounce around Buckled up or dragging on the ground I like those tits
Starting point is 00:06:11 Hey everyone, welcome to Butt Those Titties. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're just talking, look, we're talking about beautiful, beautiful women here and their accomplishments. For instance, Maxine Waters, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful woman. Right. She is, of course, the, she's in the, she's the U.S. representative for California's 43rd congressional district since 1991. She has done so much in her political career.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But those titties! I'm going to just stay out of this one. You know why? Why is that? You know why? Why is that? You know why? Why is that? I feel like maybe at some point this could harm me in some way. Just being anywhere near this conversation.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I understand. All right. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Good F.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Very strong. Very strong episode. Adam, I mentioned it. You are very far away from me. Usually when we tape these episodes, look, for the majority of the ones in our previous uh our previous podcasts from you talking you too to me to are you talking re emery me to you we talking huey to me to stained glass we've been in the same room for most of those that has changed for the talking head show um but at least we were in the
Starting point is 00:08:07 same zip code but now yeah you are in a zip code that starts with a one tell us about that yeah well new york state sure like um if you're thinking about cal, where I hail from all of the zip codes in California, every single one of them. And I don't have a count off hand, although... How many zip codes there are in California? Yes. You don't know that information just off the top of your head? I do not. I'm ashamed to say. I will look this up. How do you spell how?
Starting point is 00:08:48 How. How as in? How. How. Like, how. I think it's. How. I think it's like show without the S.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Show without the S. Okay, so that's just a plain old H-O-W? H-O-W, yeah, pretty much, yeah. H-O-W, yeah, standard. How many zip codes? You know how to spell many zip codes but not how? Okay, go ahead. How, how, yeah, many zip codes in California is no problem.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Hmm. Okay. 2,597 zip codes. Hey, is this an episode of That's a Lot of Zip Codes? Yes. Hey, everybody. Welcome to That's a Lot of Zip Codes. This is Scott.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And this is Scott. And today we're just talking about states that have, look, it's right there in the title, a lot of zip codes. A lot. Like, dare I say, a shitload of codes. A shit metric ton of zippies. Oh, man. If I had this many turdsds i'd have a big pile of dung as many turds as there are zip codes i apologize i'm going to there's a blanket apology um but we're talking about california which has i mean by my thousand over 2 500 zip codes yeah just that's, by my count, over 2,500 zip codes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 That's just by my count. Zippies for days, guys. Zippies out the wazzy. I got zippies coming out of my earrings. And there's nothing else to say but that's a lot of zip codes. That's a lot of zip codes. That's a lot of zips. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Thanks. Bye. Bye. Man, I wonder if that's the most zip codes in a state. I would think that Texas or, well, wonder if alaska would have more zip codes or texas has less because there's so many unpopulated areas that's what i'm wondering i would think alaska would be even though it's gigantic wait a second how many more zip codes Texas has? How many more zippies Texas has? Probably three.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. Oh, am I right? Yeah. Yeah, they have 2,600. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. I bet Alaska only has's what I thought. Yeah. You're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I bet Alaska only has 273 or something. Hmm. That sounds low, but you're probably right. Let me check. Yeah, go ahead. Look it up. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I am right. Okay. Yeah. I wonder how many are in New York, though. Unique New York. State I'm currently in. Unique New York. I wonder how many would be there.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I mean, obviously. How do you spell how? Um... Kind of like howl without the L? Howl. Howl. Howl. Howell. Howell. Howell. Howell. Howell. Howell.
Starting point is 00:12:17 No, no, no, no, no, no. In the zip code area. It's howl as in the contraction of how will. Howell. Without the apostrophe LL. Oh, without the L. Apostrophe LL. Take those out. Lighting the lantern.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, okay. So, H-O-W. Yeah, H-O-W. Pretty simple. Oh, before we get to New York, how many zip codes, just period, how many zip codes are there? Entirely? Well, if you consider that California has 2,597, Texas has 2,600, Alaska has about 273, New York has 2,150. Oh, by the way, that's just my guess. 2150 in New York. I would think the U S has probably 41,689. Let me, yes. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Okay, cool. Wow. New York has 2150. Yeah, that's what I said. I mean, that was my guess. Am I right? But New York is a small state. But a lot of people. A lot of zippies for such a small state. So many zippies. I mean, this is almost an episode, but I don't think it is. No, I don't. I don't think it is. So many zippies, though, it's getting me a little greedy.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Just because it's not an episode does not mean we can't acknowledge the amount of zips oh dude the number of those zips is pretty high and just the the absence of a specialized podcast episode about zippies. It doesn't mean anything. Cannot hold me back. No, of course not. A guy with your interest? Never.
Starting point is 00:14:11 No, no, no, no, no. Oh, my gosh. Well, you are in that zip code. You're in one of the 2150. Is that what you're trying to say? That's right. And in New York, they all start with one. In California, they all start with nine, which is fun to think about. That's, you know, 27, 2600.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Rounding up, it's 2600 in California. And they all start with nine. So think about that. So there's 4,750 in California and New York alone, which means the rest of the 37,000 start with two through eight and are dispersed throughout this United States. Is that correct? That's right. And it also means that there's some repeat offenders we got you know i don't know what other state has their zippy that starts with a nine but uh you think there's they've got that in common with really okay i don't know california look we're not guys who know a lot about zippies although i would guess that washington with a nine, but who knows.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm just saying that we can appreciate the amount of them in certain places. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's crazy to just think about how many, just the sheer volume. The magnitude of the number. When you think about it it's impressive it's it's i mean it's a high number it's staggering it's huge it truly truly is but it's it it doesn't warrant an episode but when you think about it no no no no but no but when you pause to think, holy shit. Not an episode.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Not an episode, but man, when you really wrap your mind around it, boy. It's staggering. Incredible stuff. But definitely not an episode. No, no, no, no. That is a lot of... Not being an episode will not hold us back. No, no.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I gotta say. Not being an episode will not hold us back. No, no. It will not deter us from telling you that that is a hell of a lot of zippies. Yeah. It really is. It truly is. So can I ask, regarding your change of zippy, you are currently in New York and you are residing there for the time being. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Sure. Yeah. I'm here and it's, you know short amount of time is is that i'm here and this is where uh talking heads really flourished and really bloomed truly truly i mean getting back to talking heads um which we were talking about before um they certainly cut their teeth at in rhode island at the risd rhode island yeah school of design listen it's where they met certainly certainly certainly certainly certainly and of course they traveled the world and uh on tour yeah recorded a lot of their uh albums down in jamaica but i'll be damned if they didn't blossom in new york city yeah i mean just take it sometimes in you know entertainment uh whether it be uh your typical
Starting point is 00:17:57 showbiz like movies tv that sort of stage uh or the music industry uh people say you know you got to take it to the next level and for talking heads they took it to the next level uh here in new york city at uh the you know clubs and stuff clubs and so we we don't know which clubs but they certainly probably played clubs no one knows what the clubs were and you know what adam i bet a lot of those clubs their zippy started with one oh 100 that they were living in the one back then and they were just grinding the zips i mean not a week would go by where they weren't like no no got one got one got Yep. Just like, oh yeah. Because they would tour around the US like in an old van.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Sure. And the Headsmobile, and every time they crossed into a new zip, everyone would just start going, what's the zip? Yeah. What's the zip? And high-fiving each other going, we got a new zip. We got a new zip. We got a new zip. And that
Starting point is 00:19:07 you can take that to the bank about Talking Heads. If we know anything about Talking Heads, it is that. And so Adam, you're in New York. Yeah. I'm in New York. I think we've established that at this point.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So I'm in New York. I think we've established that at this point. So in any case, I feel like you're further away, and I almost am feeling like I miss you, even though we're doing the exact same thing that we always do. I know. Maybe it's that I'm no longer in a closet. Yeah. It's kind of throwing you. You normally are surrounded by fuzzy, woolly sweater, I know. Maybe it's that I'm no longer in a closet. Yeah. It's kind of throwing you.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You normally are surrounded by fuzzy, woolly sweaters. And currently you seem to be in some sort of, I don't want to give away your location, but you seem to be in some sort of a loft situation. Much like Talking Heads, the members of Lived in Lofts with Zippies of One. 100%. They may have been in the zippy i'm in now or a zippo that's you know east of here or west of here north south i'm not sure but i know it was close i know it was a close i bet it i bet at one point they passed through your zip zap zap and they were just like, check it off the list. Oh, they just cruise right on through this zip, either going uptown or downtown. They 100%, no doubt about it, talking heads have been in this zippy. Feels good, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:20:38 I love it. I love it. I love just grinding it out zip wise. There's nothing I love more than taking a nice long plane ride to new york city and then when i touch down and i ask the driver of the the bentley or the limousine or the rolls royce whatever they happen to pick me up in i i don't make it you know i don't specify certainly it's whatever you know just i say bring the nicest car to me. Yeah. You know, something that is, you know. Something classy.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Classy, sophisticated, but, you know, reserved. Doesn't stand out, but definitely turns some heads. That's right. And people will notice this car. People will notice, but it's unassuming. But at the same time, they're not bothering me, but they're looking inside going, I wonder who's in there. Yeah, it's not garish, but... It certainly stands out in a crowd.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Absolutely, and people will have to know who is in that car. So when they pick me up, there's nothing I like better than making that drive into the city and just crossing them off. Zippy one, zippy two, zippy three. Oh, yeah. All the wayippy three. Oh, yeah. All the way across the Brooklyn Bridge, baby. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 From one zip right into the, just zipping on over to another. Just zipping through. And also calling them out to the driver like, here we go, new zip. I like to just call out the numbers without telling him that I'm calling out Zip so that he wonders why I'm screaming at the top of your lungs. 1-0-8-9-2! 1-0-0-1
Starting point is 00:22:17 Boy. It's great. And the drivers love it. Drivers love it. They love me. And there's nothing better than a nice trip to New York. Unfortunately, I'm not taking one for a little while, so I can't come visit your set and give the kids a thrill, give all your fellow actors like a little rush of endorphins of like, oh, my God, is that? We're in the middle of a pandemic. You can always come out here, quarantine for a couple of days, and then swing by the set, give everyone a little bit of a goose. I like to really be safe in quarantine for like three months on either side.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, that makes sense. That's kind of the protocol here anyways. Yeah, definitely. Three, four-month quarantine before every day of shooting. Of course, of course of course um so you and it's new york city aka the place where pace picante sus is not is not allowed they uh they have a barrier all around the city yeah armed guards do you have any pace picante on you son yeah if you try and sneak it in, you're screwed.
Starting point is 00:23:26 They beat the shit out of you. Yeah, they fucking end you. They'll do that regardless. Yeah. I'm not even talking about Pace Picante anymore. But you are in New York, which was always considered by the band as the fifth talking head. Is that right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And, you know, in so many great films, it's a character as much as any of the other characters. Sure, it's the second Woody Allen in a lot of films. Hold on. Is this an episode of I Love Films? Oh, shit, it is. of I Love Films? Oh, shit, it is. Hey, everybody, this is I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And usually I say welcome to I Love Films. So let me welcome you now. But we are we're back for another episode. Can you believe it? Oh, man. know what i can you thought we were done you thought we were done uh-uh there how many times have people counted us out how many times countless
Starting point is 00:24:33 said those guys are done and we keep coming back dunzo uh unzo i don't think so. Don't think so. Don't think so. In any case, we're talking about movies set in New York. Oh, man. I got to confess, I'm coming up short. I'm drawing a blank here. You know what? I was thinking about the fact that in great films, New York City. Just the city. Just New York.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah, just the hustle, the bustle. The walking. The stoops. Just the stoops. The bagels. The pizza. The nightlife. But what about the daylife?
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh, the daylife. I mean, going to the park and sitting back and reading the the new york time tossing a little frisbee new york post tossing what tossing a frisbee oh man just getting the frisbee out there and just chucking it just blading through central park catching frisbee just cruise right into a new zip right in the middle of the park. But all of this, all of that in one city, one little island from space, you can't even tell that this is just a little island teeming with life. And films reflect that. Films reflect that reality. In so many films, it's a character in the film just as important as the leads if you ask me certainly
Starting point is 00:26:07 so i'm trying to think of one it is um yeah i can't think of any it is uh um batman well batman famously you know takes place in got, you know, I think that there's a lot of people who, you know, just assume that Gotham is sort of a fictionalized version of New York. No, it's Gotham. It's Gotham. What about Chinatown? Chinatown. Great. Well, that's also pretty famously Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Huh. Now, okay, I'm going to throw one out there. Yeah. that's also pretty famously Los Angeles. Huh? Now I'm okay. I'm going to throw one out there. Yeah. I'm not talking about the originals. I'm talking about the, the prequels. Okay. So of the star Wars movies.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Oh, so episode one, episode two, like the Phantom episode three. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is there any the Phantom Menace. Episode three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Is there any of that? Yeah. Any of those kind of touched down into the New York area? I think those are set in New York, aren't they? Okay. Yeah. See, that's why it came to mind is because I just thought, well, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I think that was New York. I think so. Anakin, hey. Hey. Get some sausage and peppers, Anakin. Come on. Hey, I'm skywalking here. The Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah, those are set in New York, definitely. Yeah. All right, we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye. Good F. Those guys know their shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I think it's just a great resource for... It is. If you're a film lover, and who amongst us is a film hater, I mean... Truly. Not me. There's no more transcendent art form than film,
Starting point is 00:28:01 as far as I'm concerned. But if you are a film lover, then you're going to want to download not stream those episodes because you're going to want to listen to them again and again and again you can just keep them on your uh your phone your tablet what computer whatever it is and by the way they you know they don't say this every episode, but if you need a transcript of any of their episodes, then all you have to do is just write to them and they'll send you the transcripts. And that way, some of our hearing impaired listeners can figure out exactly what those guys from I Love Film are talking about. And that is just service they provide.
Starting point is 00:28:47 We don't provide it for this show, but they provide it for that show. No, and it's a great resource because if you're in film school, something like that, you don't have time to just back it up and listen to the podcast over and over again. You can just carry this around. Just kind of highlight your favorite passages and things that you're going to want to come back to, little nuggets of wisdom. over and over again. You can just carry this around in your bag. Just kind of highlight your favorite passages and, you know, things that you're going
Starting point is 00:29:06 to want to come back to, you know, little nuggets of wisdom. Yeah, if your professor lets you kind of have notes during the exams, you can have it highlighted, just ready to go.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It's a great resource to use. It's a great resource. Because a lot of what we talked about on that last episode is going to be on the test, probably. Yeah, well, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:26 There's going to be an exam about New York and film and all that stuff. And probably question number one is going to be name one film set in New York. And now you're going to have it right there at your fingertips. Yeah. It's a great resource. It's a great. Well, I mean, that's getting back to what I was talking about. And I know that you have sort of, you know, your point that you want to make. But I was going to say it's a great resource. And I think that, you know, it's a salient point, but if I'm just going to, we can just like circle back to what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:30:08 What I was saying is more like it's a great resource for students. If students want to have a resource specifically for the particularly film students, it's a great resource for them. I get what you're saying. During an exam like certainly have it right there i understand that and i know that you know we're just spit balling and there are no bad ideas but i want to sort of offer up a counterpoint um that it's probably a lot of those episodes are going to be uh if you're the resourceful type it's going to be great for you um in order to use those as uh sort of the the raw materials
Starting point is 00:30:47 that you're going to draw from uh yeah sort of like a resource a great one a great resource and students are going to want to use those episodes and come back to them um high on re-listenability i have to say yeah that's great you know, I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but I'm just, I think it's important that I just say real quick that, and just come again, just spitballing, throwing this, just seeing if this spaghetti sticks against the wall here, that as far as a student goes, as far as someone who is in school, mainly referring to university. Higher education, sure. Sure, sure, and grad school and stuff,
Starting point is 00:31:34 but also, listen, they're doing film classes in some high schools now. Sure. And I think it could be a great resource for students of any age, really, who are studying film, screenwriting, even acting. You know, it's a for, again, those who are resourceful. It's great for them. Well, I think I think that we can agree that it's an important medium and film that is and that those podcasts are certainly a great resource. We can agree on those facts that I've established those podcasts are certainly a great resource um we can agree on those
Starting point is 00:32:06 facts that i've established yeah certainly i can live with that yeah definitely um well speaking of great resources uh this episode is a great resource for anyone who wants to know anything about a little album called, what is it called? Little Creatures. Anyone who wants to know about the album Little Creatures is going to want to put this on repeat and listen to these facts over and over again. And we need to take a break, Adam. But when we come back, we're going to be talking about this album Little Creatures I hope you've listened to it because otherwise our break is going to have to be about 40 minutes long
Starting point is 00:32:50 while you listen to this album but uh have you listened to it I really hope you have don't worry don't worry okay sorry all right we are going to come right back when we come back we will be talking about the album little creatures we will be right back on you talking talking heads to my talking head after this i wish you wouldn't say that i thought i'd have to come right over. Welcome back. You talking talking heads to my talking head. I'm here with Adam Scott. And we are about to get the fuck into it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Are you ready, Adam? I am rolling my sleeves up as we speak. As we sit here. Yeah. That's great. We want those forearms nice and recognizable. Got them. Got them right there. There they are. Man, you're looking big these days. You're looking... Swole.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah, I got some big forearms. Have you been lifting in preparation for this part? Sure. That's a stupid question. All right, we're going to get into it. We're going to talk about the album Little Creatures. Let's get into some facts.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Released June 10th, 1985. Adam, do you remember what you were doing and did you buy this record when it came out? Well, my brother did and he had the record and we would listen to it all the time. I remember it was a big deal. But June 10th, 1985, Back to the Future came out either soon after this back yeah back to
Starting point is 00:34:49 the future as far as i remember it came out in the summer of 85 but i think it came out in may let me just check this out here man i was whenever that came out i was all about that back to july 3rd july 3rd 1985 so a mere oh three weeks and two days later back to the future was out i mean i was just i just went to see i just kept going going to see that over and over listening to the soundtrack over and over i feel like we're verging into our sister podcast here yeah we talking huey to me but i uh we can't get into that but um so you were all about back to the future this year all about back to the future that summer that's like every single member of my family i just loved it had you seen the movie stop making sense at this point uh yeah probably i would imagine and talking heads were uh i was like i really like talking heads i wasn't like
Starting point is 00:35:53 buying albums really yet because i just didn't have the means you didn't have disposable cash you didn't have walking around money you didn't have a little lettuce for that tomato that's right i i had zero lettuce you had you had zero right. I had zero lettuce. You had zero. As a result, had zero tomatoes. And you had zero bozos. Is that right? No bozos. And yeah, and I really, really.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Do you remember your first bozo? It's hard to say. What about you? Can you remember your first? A young child never forgets his first bozo yeah i was eight years old i remember for the entire year that year this was uh from january uh 1978 until september 23rd of 1978 i had 999 dollars and then i remember on september 24th i was just walking down the street and the the most elegant millionaire was coming towards me on the sidewalk and he's wearing
Starting point is 00:37:03 a top hat and spats and tails. I mean, he looked like a cartoon. He looked like the Monopoly guy. You know that guy? The guy, the Monopoly guy? Do you know that guy? Oh, yeah. He's so rich.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The guy, the Monopoly guy? Mr. Monopoly, do you know that guy? Yeah. The richest, he looked like the spitting image of this guy. And he passes me on the street. And I'm like a ragamuffin at this point you know i have like you know grease on my face and tattered uh gloves and you know uh i had a gold watch yeah but i didn't have a fob you know i didn't have a nice golden fob to connect my my golden pocket watch to to my vest and so he sees this and he's like excuse me young man
Starting point is 00:37:48 where is your fob and i had to confess i said sir i'm bozo-less yeah so and he reaches into his pocket and he pulls out a susan b anthony whoa yeah and he flips it over to me with his thumb with his thumb whoa and it it catapults throughout the air turning over and over and over and over and and to my little boy mind my little ragamuffin mind, it was up there in the air for what seemed like days, nay, weeks. And just time became meaningless after a certain point because I'm just looking at the arc of this Susan B. turning over and over and over. I'm looking at her face occasionally because occasionally you can see her face. And I'm like, who is that? I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Because occasionally you can see her face. And I'm like, who is that? I don't know who that is. Suddenly it lands in my palm. And I say, excuse me, sir. This young man just obtained his first bozo. Oh, man. It was great.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It was so great. It was so cool. He tried to kidnap me um he tried to abduct me he asked me to go step into his car his car was not as nice as you would think it would be it was kind of like oh really it was just like a beat-up station wagon it turned out that he he was wearing a halloween costume um he wasn't actually really rich and um he tried to abduct me and um i fought him off i fended him off but uh so the story has a i mean it's uh not a sad ending not a happy ending it's still cute though it's cute it's a cute ending anyway that was yeah i i i remember depositing it to that bank teller and she just smiled at me because she knew she saw me coming in she was like do you have what i think you have oh man did they did they turn on like the bozo
Starting point is 00:39:52 alert yeah you know how the banks do that every time it was incredible but um yeah i remember mine oh that's great that's great that's a's a great story, and it's fun. It's fun to listen to. It's fun to listen to. It was fun watching you tell it, I'm going to be honest. I got to admit, it was fun to say. You know what? I could tell, and that's part of why I enjoyed listening so much.
Starting point is 00:40:16 The tale was so much fun in the telling of it that the content of it almost didn't even matter. No, the content of it was didn't even matter no the content of it was irrelevant it's all about the spirit sure with which it was told and that's sort of what america is you know it's about storytelling it's about storytelling it's about spirit it's about uh the spirit of the pioneers who uh yeah founded this country and it's a uh an individualistic spirit that Americans share. Yes. The American dream just, you know, you don't have two nickels to rub together
Starting point is 00:40:53 and next thing you know, you're getting like bozos like one a minute. Suddenly the bozo alert is going off like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. It's like at a certain point I'm like, can I lose some money because i'm tired of this bozo alert going off and waking me up all the time please can i flush some bozos down the jesus the old t-toy wc in any case uh 1985 was uh when this came out june 10th now i remember uh this summer and this album in a very particular
Starting point is 00:41:27 way which um i was very big into talking heads we talked about on our stop making sense episode went to go see the movie with my friend and uh so when this record came out uh i believe my friend bought it and i taped it off of him and um the reason I know I had a tape of it is because that summer I went to Lake Elsinore, which was the lake that my church group would go to for water skiing. And the name of the beer factory in Strange Brew. Interesting. And so I had a boom box that I would carry around with me wherever we would go. And I would play this record and I would play the Cars Heartbeat City over and over. These were the two tastes that I brought.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Great albums. Great albums. Played it over. So anytime I hear hello hello again i just flash back and this album is the same i flash back to wandering around lake elsinore um did i ever tell you what happened to me there when i sunk the jet ski no we rented it me and two friends oh my god pooled our money and rented a jet ski from a jet ski rental place and we didn't know how to they don't give you any instruction they
Starting point is 00:42:53 just you know they go i expected some sort of like tutorial or whatever right but instead they go here you go and then you're you're expected they kind of tell you how to turn it on. That's the one thing they do. So we're sitting there in shallow. Have you signed something? Yeah, we signed something. So I'm sitting there or standing there. All three of us are standing there in shallow water with all these boats around us. And we're like, okay, well, he said you turn this key and press this button and it turns it on. None of us are sitting on it, by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So I do that. Are you out like in the deep water? No, we're in the shallow water. Shallow water where boats are tied up, right? Okay. And so none of us are on it, but I go, okay, well, here we go. And I turn the key and I press the button and it just takes off without any of us on it
Starting point is 00:43:44 and crashes into a boat. So the people who own the boat are like, Hey, and I go, sorry, sorry. And we, we go, Ooh, boy, that was a, that was a close call. You know, if the people on that boat had, you know, been upset, it would have ruined the weekend so we go all right who wants to get on it first i go i i don't know i will okay so i get on it i'm out in the deep water having a great time three minutes later it is at the bottom of the lake why what happened when i hit the boat boat it like knocked a patched up uh hole in in the engine or something like that jesus so it so it filled with water it filled with water and sank and so like everyone at my church group made fun of me out there like floating in the middle of the water having to be rescued and then them having you're out in the middle of the lake out in the middle of the lake they had to they had to get a rope and like drag the jet ski up and then um they were gonna make me
Starting point is 00:44:50 pay for the jet ski me personally by the way my other two friends they're not saying a peep at this point they're just like yeah scott did this he was out in the middle of the water and uh so then the the the adults at the church group took a look at the jet ski and they were like uh this hole was obviously in it before and you just put like putty over it or right you know something he's not going to be responsible for this jet ski he's not paying you any bozos for this bozo plus you're a teenager and it's what like five thousand dollars something like that it was just insane it was like it to me was like another example of one of these accidents that you get into as a kid um that
Starting point is 00:45:32 just cost your parents thousands and thousands of dollars that all they can do is just be like well that's the price of raising a kid i guess yeah um but in any case, so, so this particular trip, I, I just, anytime I listened to this record, I flash back, um, to that trip. And I,
Starting point is 00:45:51 I have a lot of, uh, uh, uh, I guess, you know, even though that, that trip was,
Starting point is 00:45:57 uh, uh, a weird memory, I have a lot of great memories with this record. And this is probably the talking heads record aside from stop making sense that i've listened to over and over and over and over again because i was 15 when it came out and i listened to it over and over again and that's really what it was like back then because other than the radio you were limited to what you had and when you didn't have any money or anything like i remember listening to like like
Starting point is 00:46:26 you're describing like two albums for months like i would just listen that's how you got so into these albums and now with a streaming service or something like why would you ever do that right but but listening to i i know almost every note, every production choice of this record. I put it on yesterday for the first time in a while, and I was immediately singing along to not only the lyrics, but every musical instrument and every chord change. So I just know this one backwards and forwards. That's cool. That's like me with Automatic for the people or something like that right every single little thing um a little background about this record so uh weirdly enough um you
Starting point is 00:47:15 know our last few episodes there's been so much drama with all the members of talking heads uh and fighting over credit and and you know it's like a soap opera it truly is a soap opera so i i've read uh chris fart's book and i read the uh this must be the place book and neither of them really have any kind of drama regarding this record um here are the facts so stop making sense gets released and mr burns decides he wants to write and direct his own movie which we will get to uh on one of our next episodes um so he moves to los angeles and he gets an office at the double double wb over there in burbank. Billy Bong, what does John Daly say? Billy, Billy Burbank.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I can't remember. We got to talk to him at some point on our sister show, on the Red Hot Chili Pepper show. Oh, yeah. But so he gets an office where he's trying to make this movie. So he moves to LA and he apparently he loves it and he loves the sunshine and he loves, I'll tell you the biggest thing that he loves about it, he loves that nine at the start of that zippy. Oh man, getting that, just crossing that border into the nine zone.
Starting point is 00:48:37 When you get mail and you're like, yeah, that's the zip I'm in. Yeah, that's right. You better believe that starts at the nine. So he's over at Warner Brothers trying to work on this movie. And, you know, back then, the album lifecycle was every year you would put out something. You'd need product every single year because the machinery was designed in order to constantly have product out there. So they had put out Stop Making Sense the year before, so everyone knew that they had to put out an album this time. But the weird thing about it is, so our last few records have all been based on the group jamming together in one room
Starting point is 00:49:25 and figuring out the songs as they go. This time, Mr. Burns says to them, oh, hey, I wrote all these songs on piano. Do we want to do these? And starts playing them, basically the songs on this record, on Little Creatures. And he's written them all on piano and they're all sort of like character sketches i i think in one book it
Starting point is 00:49:49 it mentioned that some of these were designed to be for his movie um and the thing that's surprising to me is both books i would think like after two successful records where they were born out of jams the band would say uh what if you know we did it like the other records but instead they all go great sounds good let's record these no drama no no fighting over credits chris farts at some point says uh i was pleased to see that mr burns included some lyrics i wrote a long time ago in perfect world he included those he gets credit for them um and they they basically just go and and and bash this album out uh they were and it's a more kind of conventional song structures and stuff yeah these are all like songwriter songs these uh the past two records yeah the past two records, yeah, the past two records have been, um, they certainly were, ended up being pop music, but these are kind of, uh, just straightforward verse chorus-y David Byrne, uh, Mr. Byrne's songwriting, uh, uh, uh, examples.
Starting point is 00:51:08 top of the ed sullivan theater in uh one of those offices up there on top and um it comes out and and it's it is just like a 1985 pop record you know what i mean it's yeah it's yeah it it kind of is the perfect record to come out when you're super famous because they are super famous now. And, and this is like not a challenging record, if that makes sense. It's, it's just a really good pop record, really good melodies,
Starting point is 00:51:35 really good structures. Nothing is too long. There only one song is, is over four and a half minutes. Really? There's a television man is over six, but nothing like dark and a half minutes. Really? There's a, uh, television man is over six, but nothing like dark and bizarre. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Just a real nice David Byrne, Mr. Burns being Mr. Burns. And, uh, now some of the band, I believe George Harrison,
Starting point is 00:51:58 look, I mean, dude was in the Beatles and made Sergeant Pepper, you know, like the thing that invented pop stars making challenging records Sgt. Pepper, you know, like the thing that invented pop stars making challenging records. Yeah, it's huge. From what I read, he thought
Starting point is 00:52:11 this was a little unchallenging, perhaps, and especially coming off of Remain in Light, you know, which is so groundbreaking. Some of the band maybe thought that this was like a little light um but chris farts said he had fun he was like i was
Starting point is 00:52:29 i was having such a good time doing all these different types of drum sounds um i thought you were gonna say all these different types of drugs and farts one thing that did happen was um the entire band was interviewed for the new york times magazine and um they all did interviews for it as talking heads and then when it came out it was just a picture of mr burns on the cover pretty classic and it was and everyone everyone else's interviews were sort of supporting their story on Mr. Burns instead of it being a story on Talking Heads. That's classic. Happens. But other than that, they just had a good time and put it out.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And then the record was huge and sold more than any of their other records. Now, looking it up, I was surprised to see that Lady Don't Mind was the first single, which I do not remember. Isn't that weird? Yeah. I don't remember that being a hit at all, was it? Not really. In fact, the first song that I remember hearing was Road to Nowhere. I remember And She Was being the huge hit.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah, both of those were certainly made more of an impact than The Lady Don't Mind. i think told us on our last episode uh that they they made a deal where all four of them would direct the videos and because they they knew that mr burns would direct them all unless they like struck an agreement so um they ended up making three videos um and they talk about how uh basically mtv just played the shit out of these videos yeah and made the record as popular as it was because they didn't have a lot at the time they they i forget exactly what it was but they this filled some sort of niche for them where for about a year they were just constantly playing talking heads videos yeah i remember and she was, and Road to Nowhere being on constantly. Now, we should talk about the cover a little bit
Starting point is 00:54:48 because this has a little bit of a relationship to our sister show, Are You Talking to Harry M. Remy? The Reverend Howard Finster does the cover in his inimitable style, and I guess Mr. burns kind of said hey i want i want you to do the cover and i want me holding up the world and uh so uh howard finster painted uh mr burns in his underwear for some reason holding up up the world. And, but it's a very cool cover.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It was, it was definitely, it's, it's very striking. And I believe he got paid 2,500 bozos for that. Or no, no, not 2,500 bozos.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That would be an amazing amount. He got paid two and a half bozos. Man, really? I think so. I may have the time. Yeah, I guess that's, you know i guess that's you know that's a down that's a down payment on a yacht it's such a great record cover i love it it's so good so
Starting point is 00:55:53 you have uh the other people who are on this record are you have uh lenny pickett who is the leader of the snl band at the time he does a bunch of saxophones on a lot of the songs. Our old buddy Steve Scales from Stop Making Sense comes in and adds percussion. A lot of backing vocals. They talk about how they got sort of like the cream of the crop in studio musician backing vocals. Aaron Dickens, Diva Gray, Gordon Grody, Lanny Groves,
Starting point is 00:56:29 Kurt Yahian, I believe. mcgray uh gordon grody lanny groves um kurt yahian i believe um they all do backing vocals mainly on um i believe road to nowhere and you got uh some washboard it's a real americana album it really yes it's like a it's like a a driving album you know what i mean well it's what he was exploring music wise for true stories and sort of did this concurrently. Yes. They did these one after the other with basically no break. I think it's maybe more successful at the feeling he was going for in True Stories than even True Stories is. I mean, it truly is one of these records you can pop on
Starting point is 00:57:01 as you're having your driver, you know, in something nice. He's driving you around in something nice, you know, something classy, you know. Not garish, but certainly people are going to fucking notice. They're going to fucking lose it if they see you in there. And you want to roll the windows down because you want to smell the ocean air. Yeah, you want people to see you. But you know that if you do, it's going to cause some incidents. Yeah, people are going to kick up a fuss.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Yeah. So in any case, great record, and we will hear a little – well, we'll go through the songs when we come back. How does that sound, Adam? Great. That sounds great. It really, really does. All right, we're going to come back and listen to Little Creatures. We will be right back with more You Talkin' Talking Heads to My Talking Head in just a second.
Starting point is 00:58:02 We'll be right back. Welcome back. You talking, talking heads to my talking head. And we are talking about the record Little Creatures. Have I said Little Creatures before then? Before now? Yes. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Little Creatures is the name of the record. And you ready to get into this, Adam? Yeah. Screech it up. Screech it up. What if it was Little Screech? Little Scree young sheldon little screech little creechies no way if it was a cute a little cuter it would be i i accidentally hit on a million dollar idea like no one wants screech involved in saved by the bell anymore right but pull a young sheldon little screech i would watch a show about little screech
Starting point is 00:59:05 oh little screech yeah absolutely oh someone get who owns the rights to that you were weren't you on that episode on that show i disagree though i disagree that it's a million dollar idea why i think it's a 10 million dollar idea whoa that's so manyzos. I don't even know how many bozos that is. I believe 10,000, something like that. I could be getting that wrong. All right, let's go through the songs. I'm going to admit that earlier when you asked me when I got my first bozo, I didn't know what, I'd forgotten what bozo. You got to listen to these these episodes back i asked you to go first um all right this is track one and this is um this was uh the third single strangely enough but this is one that everyone remembers gotta be wrong uh i don't think it... Who knows? But this is And She Was.
Starting point is 01:00:05 This is the kickoff track to Little Creatures. Here we go. Hey! Hey! She was lying in the grass And she could hear the highway breathing And she could see a nearby factory She's making sure she's not dreaming See the lights of her neighbor's house And now she's starting to light
Starting point is 01:00:41 Take a minute to concentrate And she opens up her eyes Good shit. I love her and she was And she was Good shit. Man, it is just so catchy. This is such happy music. Yeah. It is interesting. I mean, all sort of art school sheen is gone.
Starting point is 01:01:21 All kind of like old sourpussisms. Yeah. They're all gone and and but what is front and center is david burr or mr burns point of view which is challenging enough already you know so it was almost this melding of art school point of view on happy pop music that made it so popular. But it also has this kind of art school, like, this is pop music. This is catchy pop music. In italics or in quotes. Yeah, a little bit. Like, we're doing this now rather than this is what we are. This is like, check out what we're doing this now um rather than this is what we are this is like check out what we're
Starting point is 01:02:08 up to pretty much every album is kind of check out where what we're up to i guess so but i feel like this super this super clean straightforward pop music thing is more conceptual than it is very chimey guitars here cowbell i love it kind of drug uh influenced lsd-ish kind of uh lyrics yeah yeah it's great hey hey hey and it'll now be in my head for like two weeks yeah good shit um that's an a plus sure in my in my mind um which is the highest grade that some schools give um this is track two this is give me back my name. There's a word for it. Words don't mean a thing.
Starting point is 01:03:30 There's a name for it. Names make all the difference in the world. Some things can never be spoken. Some things cannot be pronounced. That word does not exist in any language It will never be amplified in human life That was Tina, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, singing background vocals. This is a weird song to follow Anshuas. Well, it's interesting because it goes immediately into a minor key song,
Starting point is 01:04:08 which when you think about it, where else could you put a minor key song except for right after a happy song? It makes the contrast. Yeah, but I would have held it for, because there's so many happy songs on this album. I would have put another, like... What is interesting, though though is it goes into a major key, I believe,
Starting point is 01:04:27 after a little bit, which turns it into more of a happy song. Let's talk a little bit more as they continue. Here, this is a little major. But then goes back into a minor. Now we're in a major again. Now we're back to happy, kind of. Something must be returned to us Something must be returned to us
Starting point is 01:05:08 But then back to Minor Key. You know, at the time it didn't seem weird to me because it is kind of ping-ponging back and forth from these two moods, and I think it ends on kind of an upbeat thing, so it didn't seem uh like strange to me like it didn't it didn't seem incredibly challenging but i but i i know what you mean it is uh kind of a weird track too but i don't know but i like it what do you think about
Starting point is 01:05:36 it i like it i i mean i like the i think that those harmonies in the chorus are really pretty uh and that americana sort of it's a weird mixture of like that older talking heads vibe with this new yeah poppy americana thing it's not my favorite on the record i i don't know why i love it um yeah and um i'll and I'll fight you. Oh, okay. Okay. Let's do it. Yeah. How far can your arms reach to punch me? 2,000 miles.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Oh, that's not going to be enough. No. Okay. Well, let's rain check on that fight. This is track three. This is Creatures of Love. This is sort of, I mean, not the title song of the record because there isn't a song called little creatures but it's kind of what the title of the record is referring to uh this is creatures of love by talking heads A woman made a man
Starting point is 01:06:51 And a man he made a house When they lay together Little creatures all come out Well I see insects And I think it's alright Mix those little creatures And come to life Well I can laugh
Starting point is 01:07:18 But I can't turn away Well I've seen sex and I think it's okay It's okay We are creatures Creatures of love We are creatures
Starting point is 01:07:39 Creatures of love From the sleep of reason It's another one, sort of a minor key feel that goes into a major for the chorus. It's great. I love this song.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Based a little bit on a dream that Mr. Burns had, apparently he was telling Tina about where he was like, I had a dream last night. I was surrounded by creatures. And she said, oh, was it a scary dream? And he said, no, they were creatures of love. Sounds like a cool guy to talk to. Yeah. Isn't little creatures just those two words
Starting point is 01:08:18 in an older song of theirs as well? Huh. Creatures, I'm not sure. Little Creatures? This is one of two songs on the record that talks about babies. Which I don't know. I think it might be in Slippery People. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Okay. Well, I had moved on and made a different point. Yeah, you had. Back to the chorus here we go beautiful pedal steel by eric weisberg yeah really fun i mean this is a, it's when we say Americana, that's kind of what we're talking about here. Sort of like, I guess, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:12 our previous band we covered, U2, they, U2, they did Americana in 1987 with Joshua Tree? Yeah. Yeah, like the kind of exploring American music. Yeah, but Talking Heads beat him to it by two years. That's right.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Although I wouldn't, you know, I don't think this album screams America, kind of like Joshua Tree did, you know, like we're exploring America. It just has these touches which hadn't been incorporated in talking head songs before yeah all right glad that you agree all right so here's uh this is track four this is lady don't mind guitar solo Last time she jumped out the window Well, she only turned and smiled You might think she would say something But you'd have to wait a while Well, the lady don't mind No, no, Well, the lady don't mind
Starting point is 01:10:45 No, no, no, the lady don't mind She just turns her head Disappears and I kinda like that style Little folks, folks on the street Now this is maybe the closest they came to like sort of a dance song like the stuff that they did on their previous records You have kind of a propulsive bass line
Starting point is 01:11:10 Right And Steve Scales doing the bongos in the back But it is not a dance I mean it's not like a banger or anything like that Right Is the chorus about to hit? I believe so. Cover your ears so you can hear what I'm saying I'm not lost, but I don't know where I am I got a question
Starting point is 01:11:51 Alright, alright, this is what we like Who knows, who knows what I'm thinking I love the horns. Lanny Pickett did a good job on these. Yeah, it's so weird to me that this was a single. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's at least what Wikipedia says, and I think one of the books talks about it. But, I mean, I can see it being just the first.
Starting point is 01:12:17 It just doesn't make sense. The first, it doesn't make any sense. But, you know, look, most of these songs I'm going to gonna say are great what do you think of this one yeah i i really like it i think it's really good uh what about you i i i like all but maybe no wait shit i like all of the songs on this i was thinking there's one that i was when i was listening to yesterday i'll tell you which one it is i was kind of like do i like this song and then the chorus and i was like i love it so yeah i don't know so much of uh this album is wrapped up in me hearing it one million times i do think i do think that that song you know what it reminds me of is it reminds me of david bowie's tonight record which is a flop
Starting point is 01:13:01 and everyone considers to be bad but i actually really like it has that like clean production with the very clean horn sounds and right um in any case that that song in particular reminds me a lot of it um all right this is the last track on side one this is perfect world and some might say perfect song well we'll find out as we listen to it. Perfect World by Talking Heads. Well, I know what it is, but I don't know where it is Well, I know where it is, but I don't know what it looks like Well, I know what it looks like, but I don't know where she comes from Well I know where she comes from but I don't know what's her name And she said
Starting point is 01:14:17 This is a perfect world I'm riding on an airplane I'm staring in your face I mean, this is the kind of song that you write on piano and not on guitar. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, like, you can really tell that he's doing kind of different chord structures than he was on guitar. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, like, you can really tell that he's doing kind of different chord structures than he was on guitar.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I mean, he's a good rhythm guitarist, you know, but, and some people talk about how the fact that he doesn't really know music all that well
Starting point is 01:14:55 led him to doing weird chord progressions. You wouldn't hear any other song, but this is just like beautiful piano-y chords that fit really well together. Very happy. Yeah, it's a really, just really well-constructed song. Good falsetto singing. I mean, nice happy
Starting point is 01:15:21 song. I was just looking up the the album tonight yeah and stumbled upon never let me down remember the glass spider tour being like this infamous flop yeah i didn't like it but yeah what about it just uh just thinking back to like i remember just how just people just tore him to bits because of that tour he was so coked out during that tour and i watched it on abc they they like broadcast uh really they broadcast one of the tour dates on abc as like an eight o'clock special or at least nine o'clock or something and i remember watching it and that that record is probably the my least favorite david bowie record um never let me down so bad and i and i like i'm a tonight apologist i really like tonight even though it's it's a lot like
Starting point is 01:16:12 this record it's not challenging i just like the songs on it but yeah man that's an ugly sounding record and that tour is terrible and actually but they they did put out, two years ago, I believe, they put out a, David Bowie, right before he died, he put out a, he was working on a different version of that record with different instrumentation
Starting point is 01:16:35 where he took all the instruments away and made a new version of it. And it's really fascinating. Yeah, you should listen to it. We should, I mean, why aren't we talking about David Bowie? I know.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And then he took a six-year break after never let me down yeah well he no he he was in 10 well he did tin machine yeah which i love that first tin machine record in any case perfect world how do you feel about it i like it it's really pretty okay we're we're not gonna we're not gonna dislike much on this record i have to say i know adam may dislike more than me all right this is track one on side two um we have four more tracks to go this is stay up late stay up late what listening to talking heads maybe you'll find out this is stay up late by talking heads Mommy had a little baby There he is, fast asleep. He's just a little plaything.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Why not wake him up? Cute, cute little baby. Little tee-pee, little toes. Now he's coming to me Crawl across the kitchen floor Baby, baby, please let me hold him I wanna make him stay up all night Sister, sister, he's just a plaything
Starting point is 01:18:24 We wanna make him stay up all night Yeah, we do I mean, this is a 10 out of 10 as far as I'm concerned. It gets really good towards the end. Another song about babies. I don't know if babies were on his mind or what, but he's talking about a little pee-pee. A little pee-pee. Talking about a little peepee little peepee talking about a little
Starting point is 01:18:46 baby's peepee um there's a part uh coming up that i want to highlight which is one of my favorite parts on the record. What I like about all these songs, too, is they kind of establish a nice melody and a nice groove, but then they end up do going to interesting places, like sort of in the breakdowns and stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have always loved this song.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It's coming up in a second here. We want to make him stay up all night. Here we go. All night long. Sit, sit. All night long. And play. Woo! All night long.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Little baby goes. Ha! All night long. Yeah, and he's writing about, on some of these songs, writing about really lightweight stuff. Right, yeah. And, you know, they talk about how he's singing a little more on this record, or crooning, as Chris Farts puts it. But this is the most Mr. Burns.
Starting point is 01:20:05 He like old, old school talking heads, kind of vocal performance where he's kind of yelping and doing a lot of like vocal tricks and stuff. Yeah. Um, and in any case, I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:20 those, those of you who want us to find fault on this record are sorely disappointed because so far, Adam has maybe been a little not sure about a couple of them, but I love them all. Give Me Back My Name is the one I'm sort of like, is more of a shrug to me. More of a shrug to you. Okay, this is the one that when I first heard it again yesterday, I was kind of like, eh, maybe this is a song I don't like. But then the chorus kicked in and I liked it. So this is Walk It Down by Talking Heads. Kind of more of a swamp vibe. I am just a number I hang on to what I got
Starting point is 01:21:17 You say what you want to I just try to stay alive I put myself together People say get away Somebody will turn you in Lying, lying Without serving out a givenness Ecstasy is what I need So far, you know, a C-minus maybe.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I love this chorus. The chorus, though, here we go. I mean, it's so good. Somebody will take you there Walk it down, talk it down Oh, sympathy, luxury Somebody will take you there Almost like a gospel chorus. Not a gospel chorus, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:21 they're using all these backup singers to their advantage. Sounds really pretty, kind of putting a polished sheen on mr burns singing sounds like it's recorded in a big room with a lot of musicians and a lot of um really nice furniture and just tastefully decorated modern certainly, but nothing too outlandish. Yeah. That's great. All right. That was Walk It Down. We are two songs away from the end.
Starting point is 01:22:58 The next one is called Television Man. Now, Mr. Burns has a fascination with television. I think this is the second of maybe three songs he's written about television uh one with uh on that yeah because you have found a job found a job where he's like damn that which is all about people arguing over uh what they're going to watch on tv so instead they decide to make their own tv shows then this one television man and then he has i will watch tv with saint vincent i believe those are the three i can think of maybe he has more i was thinking of radiohead
Starting point is 01:23:30 which is about a radio and not television well it's covered as far as i know it's covered by after well you're right okay yeah our radiohead our brothers Our brothers in our union, AFTRA, of course. Sure. Our union brothers and sisters. Sure. This is Television Man, and it's by Talking Heads. guitar solo And I'm looking and I'm dreaming for the first time And I'm inside and I'm outside at the same time And everything is real
Starting point is 01:24:44 Do I like the way I feel When the world crashes in Into my living room Television made me what I am People like to put Television down But we are just friends I'm a television fan What do you think, Adam?
Starting point is 01:25:14 I like it. It's not as exciting to me as... It's a B-plus in an album full of A's. Yeah. And he's a television man is what he's trying to say. Yeah, no, I get it. I get that that's what he's saying. All right, this is the final song on the record,
Starting point is 01:25:36 and it's an interesting choice to be the final song because it's probably the most well-known song on the record and the biggest. It's a great album closer. It's a monster, but it is such a good closer. And when you see American Utopia, you kind of think like nothing can really come after it. It's so big and such a great way to end. It could have been maybe an opener.
Starting point is 01:26:02 I don't know. We'll never know. But this is Road to Nowhere nowhere and this is by talking heads but we can't say what we've seen And we're not little children And we know what we want And the future is certain Give us time to work it out We're on a road to nowhere
Starting point is 01:26:57 Come on inside Taking that ride to nowhere We'll take that ride I'm feeling okay this morning And you know We're on the road to paradise Here we go Here we go Here we go
Starting point is 01:27:28 I mean, people know this song. It's great. I mean, this song has been in so many movie trailers. It's crazy. Yeah, well, I mean, a lot of movies are road movies and people, you know. What I love, I love music supervisors it's crazy yeah well i mean a lot of movies are road movies and people you know yeah what i love i love muse music uh supervisors who uh can can only think of the most obvious song to use in something you know like i love watching a tv show and i know that a a main character a protagonist is under a lot of pressure when i hear the song Under Pressure. Oh, my God. Or when they are making a lot of money, you got to play Money by Pink Floyd.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Oh, my God. Or the fucking Apprentice theme. Money, money, money, money. Ugh. This is great. I mean, this is really great so good i mean just there's nothing wrong with this and uh you know go see or watch american utopia for a great version of this um spoiler alert yeah i'll spoil the shit out of that i'm
Starting point is 01:28:42 excited that spike lee directed it too. Cool. He directed the version that's going to be on HBO. I get all my talking heads info from your little asides on this show, so I'm glad to hear. Breaking news. It's a Spike Lee joint. Break in on this program. spikey joint break in on this program um the the bonus tracks are pretty much like run-throughs of songs or an extended remix but there is one interesting uh totally different version of the lady don't mind they call it the moog or moog march version do you want to hear a little bit of this and we'll uh we'll see how it stacks up uh to the official version this is lady
Starting point is 01:29:28 don't mind a different version which you can find on bonus rarities and outtakes hello Last time, jumped out the window Well, she only turned and smiled You might think she would say something But you'll have to wait a while Weird. Yeah, very different, huh? I mean, they made the right choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:18 This is like... The vocals sound like they were recorded like in a garage. This is probably like a run-through or them doing, you know, warming up with it or something. Like I don't think they professionally mixed this or intended for it to be released or whatever.
Starting point is 01:30:39 But definitely a different feel. The early version of Road to Nowhere is cool, too. It seems like a warm-up. Just a demo. Yeah, just a them. Yeah, it's true. I wonder if any of the band is on it other than Mr. Burns.
Starting point is 01:30:56 This is the early version of Road to Nowhere. yeah it's like a home recording almost yeah i bet he did this with a drum machine i'm not sure um in any case little creatures classic album classic album uh again kind of has has taken them out of the art school aesthetic that they had for their first few records and now they're just purely just a pop band but i love it for it and i think uh the songwriting is great and um who knows this may be the last really good Talking Heads record we don't know we don't know what's to come but this one let's see how long they try and keep up this we're a mainstream pop band this definitely
Starting point is 01:31:55 was worn out in my neck of the woods and on certainly from the bottom of Lake Elsinore to your home I hope that you play this record and enjoy it. Adam, any final words you want to say about this record, this period of time?
Starting point is 01:32:14 I don't think so. How about you, Scott? Yeah, you know, I feel like people have heard enough of what I think about this record. We want to hear what you think about this record. Hit us up at gofuckyourself.com But no, I hope you listen to this record and enjoy it. I can totally understand
Starting point is 01:32:34 if you, in the context of people just looking back not knowing Talking Heads, if they listen to it and go, well, I don't know. Who gives a shit? Yeah, who gives a shit, but it's definitely one I love. Alright, that's going to do it for us. We, we for another week hope you've enjoyed it adam i've enjoyed spending time with you and i hope that um everything goes well for you out there on what i call the east coast sure yeah likewise the west coast with you friend. May they never meet at all,
Starting point is 01:33:05 because that would be a strange... That would be a large folding country. All right, we'll see you next time. And until then, we hope that you found what you're looking for. Bye. you

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