U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - Days Of Ash

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

Adam Scott Aukerman release an emergency episode, as U2 break a three year rut with a brand new EP full of protest music - DAYS OF ASH. They listen to the tunes, share their impressions, but not before some necessary sub-podcasts about film, thread, and even the Boss!

Or, sith, Biduary. American O, that is. This is you talking you too to me. The comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things you, too. This is good rock and roll. Music? Oh, it sounded like you forgot. Nope.

Remembered. Good rock and roll. It's good rock and roll. Music? Music. Now that was based on something, I believe, we said. Yeah. You said in one of our very first episodes, but I don't know whether that's apocryphal or whether that actually happened. Now, you were speaking before the show while we were in the steam room.

Yeah. You said that... By the way, I prefer to wear a towel in the steam room. Yeah, so that's a difference of opinion between us, but... Sorry. And I like to wear a tuxedo. That's made out of Terrycloth. Yeah, it's white tails.

That's right. Um, yeah. Yeah, I was saying in the steam room. In the steam room, you were saying that we lost, that the very first episode of you talking you two to me was 12. 12 years ago today. 12 years yonder. Can you imagine this is our anniversary, not only is it our 12th anniversary episode. It is also our 99th episode.

Huh. We have a very special 100th episode planned. Yeah. We haven't put out an episode in two years. By the way, should we introduce ourselves? I mean, that's your call. I'll tell you what. I'll introduce you and you introduce me.

Oh, okay. How's that sounds fun? What orders do you want to go in? Let's go. Well, let's roll dice to figure it up. Okay, pick them up again. Out of the 26 dice. Yep.

I have. And they're all eight-sided dice. I have a hundred and ninety-seven. Okay. You roll the 26 dice. Okay. By the way, can I get a video of you miming this? Why am I miming?

Okay. That's a very curious way of shaking the dice that I want everyone to see. That's how I shake dye. Oh, okay. All right. And it's dye, not dice. It's dice if there's more than one. You stupid motherfucker.

No, it's dye no matter what. Dice is in a word. Is that true? Yeah. Let me look it up. Look it up. Siri, activate AI mode, please. That's right.

This is one of the differences in the 12 years. The 12 years, Siri? Yeah. And AI didn't exist back then. AI. Can we talk about AI? Can we talk about AI? When I used to hear AI 12 years ago, I was like,

uh, you forgot to say. say erplane. Airplane. AI Airplane? Is that how you pronounce? Airplane? A.I. Airplane? Hey, do you want to take an Ayeroplane trip?

God, did you get the Ayeroplane tickets? I forgot. Did you get the IA plane? I forgot. Did you get the I airplane? This is a terrible trip planner, by the way. Yeah. No, this is a travel agent that went out of business.

Listen, I feel like people aren't talking about AI enough. Yeah, we need to get people talking about AI. Let's get to the bottom of it. Because we started an AI company. Yes. Because we're going public, by the way. Yeah, I mean, this is basically our coming out party. That's what this episode is.

This is a hard launch of our A. We, in fact, do not really want to talk about the band that we're here to talk about. We really just want to talk about our AI company. AI company. Because you can't spell Adam Scott without AI. That's right. As long as you put an eye in the middle of Adam Scott. Skiot.

Which is how heretofore now will be known as Skiot. Skiat, that's how you want to be built. No first name, no Adam. On severance, you want to be billed just as Skiat. You're a mononym now. That's right. And that's how you want people to refer to you when you go up at award shows and accept your award. Oh, wait, no, that didn't happen.

That's right. No, that's not necessary. Won't need it for that reason. But for everything else... For everything else, you just want to be referred to as Skiot. Yeah. And I am also putting an eye in my name. Where's that going to be?

Mine's at the beginning. I, Scott. Not, you're not going to just be Skiat, Ackerman? No, I want to do it like IMAX and iPod. I Scott. You know what? That's pretty cool. It is pretty cool.

I have a, I want it to be lowercase. Do people know what lowercase is anymore? No. You know why? AI. People don't know what lowercase is. People don't know. Like if you say, hey, I got a new couch, everyone.

They walk into your house. They don't even know where to look because of AI. Because they don't know what that combination of consonants and vowels even means. Kouch. Yeah, kowch. Kouch? Because everyone's putting an eye into every word. That's right.

Look, here's our pitch for our AI company. what's the worst part of your life that you can remember? Right. Going to school. Everyone hates it. Yeah. School. You're in school.

You're a kid. What are you complaining about? You're complaining, oh, this bad little boy dipped my pigtails in the ink well. Right. That's the number one complaint of all kids. Number one complaint. Number two, school. School.

They all hate school. It's boring as hell. Of course it is. They don't have couches. There's no kioschis. And all it is is wall to wall skill. By the way, okay, two plus two equals whatever it equals. Yeah.

Two plus three equals whatever that equals. Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? AI knows all that stuff and more so you don't have to. So you can just walk around going like, AI, what does two plus two equal? What does kioch mean? Yeah. And it'll tell you.

That's right. You don't have to go to school. And there's also, we're kind of revolutionizing the term AI, too, because we are putting the A and the I together. And our company is just called I. Yeah. We tried to make it A. Right. And then Fonzie sued us. Yeah.

He was like, A. He did allow us, you have to activate our I by pounding a jukebox. that's the one thing he let us do. Well, that's the thing. If you invest in our company, everyone gets, you get a jukebox. Free jukebox. And that's the thing. If we don't have to pay for schools anymore and the whole infrastructure of schools, right.

Everyone can have a jukebox. We're going to save so much money because a jukebox is far less expensive than a skill. For how many grades is this? 13 grades of school. You know how much money that is? So much money. We're saving money. We're spending it on jukeboxes.

Jukeboxes. Juk boxes. We're spending it on that. Mm-hmm. We're spending. Oh, no, Adam. What? I just got our receipts back for our company right now.

Oh, great. I can't wait. We were supposed to buy everyone a jukebox. Yeah? We bought everyone a juice box. What? I don't know how this happens. I...

Wait, wait, wait, which flavor? Uh, record flavor? Record? Yeah, vinyl flavor, it says right here. Oh, because we got it all mixed up. We got it all mixed up. So they created a new flavor that tastes like vinyl? How is it?

Is it good? Let me, I have the shipment right here. Okay. Let me see. You know what? You want a video of that? Okay. That's really great.

Okay. It's terrific. It tastes like shit. Oh, wait, it doesn't taste good? No, it tastes great. It tastes like shit. Oh, can I try it? Yeah, here you go.

Okay. Hmm. Wait, let me aerate it just a little bit. Ah, chad, chad, chad, chad, chad, chad, chit. It's really good. It tastes like shit. It tastes like shit. Great.

All right. Well, I think we're good. I think we're good now. Wait, I'm sorry. Hold on. Is this an episode of I think we're good? I think it is. Hey, everyone, welcome to I Think We're Good.

This is Scott. And this is Scott. And this is the podcast where we think we're good? I wish there was some way to ascertain whether we are, in fact, good or not, but... Well, okay, let me let you in on a little secret. If we actually found out if we're good or not, podcast ends. We would never have a show anymore. Yeah, so I'm look...

No thanks. We, the hosts of I think we're good, are the Kimmer. of content. That's right. And we need to constantly put out episodes. So, and by the way, this is our inaugural episode. Yeah, it's our inaugural. Plus, it is our anniversary. It's the anniversary of us not having a show. That's right. Yeah. It's our, I think, somewhere in the 50th anniversary of you not having this show. That's right. Yeah. So it's really incredible. We're glad that you're here today. But, hmm, my computer camera is on for some reason. It's recording me.

We got it all. We got it all. I think that means we're good. Hey, we'll see you next time. Bye. Good up. Interesting. Yeah.

Wow. I mean, I have to say it sounded like an inaugural episode. Yeah, they haven't worked out the kinks at this point. But so much promise. That's fine. Here's the thing. There's a lower. bar for podcasting as we found out 12 years ago because we we recorded whatever that was and we're

like I think we're good and you know what we were oh we were great oh my gosh wait so yeah back to my original uh cue the og cue the inaugural episode of you talking you two to me we covered three albums of you two's we did yeah uh boy October and war. And it was while we were... Was it Guar? Oh, it may be Guar. I don't remember.

It was 12 years ago. Was it while we were discussing that album that one of us said, this is good rock and roll music? I think so. I think you said it. See, I remember doing those albums, like whole episodes about the... I remember war being like its own episode.

So do I, but I don't think it was. Okay. Who gives a shit? Yeah. I mean, truly, who cares? Honestly, this show is not that important to me because there's another show that I think is a little more important that we should get to. Okay. Is this an episode of Is Scott Glenn in Species?

Oh, yeah, I think it is. Hey, everyone, welcome to Scott Glenn and Species. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And this, of course, is the show. We haven't put out an episode in a few years, two and a half years. years or so. Way too long.

This is the show where we try to ascertain whether Scott Glenn is in species or not. Okay. I'm going to start. We got to lay down the ground rules. Okay. We have to both have seen species. Have you seen species? Yeah, I saw fucking species, bro.

I saw it opening weekend. Me too, at the Beverly Center. And I saw it at the Galaxy. We talked about this on our last episode. I don't care where you saw it. I think the important thing is, in all seriousness, the important thing is that you saw it. We saw it. Yeah. And were your eyes open the entire time? I mean, I had to blink. I blanked once. You blanked or you blinked? It's an important distinction. No, the past tense of blink is blanked. Oh, right. You're right. I blanked once. I blanked probably at least 10, 15 times. How long? Wait, how long is species? I was to say it's two hours. Okay. Two hours, that's what, 120 minutes, give or take? Yeah, somewhere around there. I blinked at least a dozen times. Because every 10 minutes you have to blink.

I only blanked once. Sorry, blanked. It was for two hours. Okay. So your eyes were closed for two hours? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, so you can, maybe you miss the movie. What species?

It's a movie about, okay, species. Species, like the human race as opposed to canines. Okay, I've seen canine. Definitely. Okay, yeah. James Belushi? Yeah, James Belushi, directed by James Cameron. I think so, yeah, yeah, and the dog was CGI, right?

The dog was... And so is James Belushi, right? He's been CGI since the late 80s. Right after SNL, right? Yep, yeah. So I guess what we're saying is Scott Glenn is definitely in species. I don't know how we can make that leap, to be honest, because this leads us to our other rule. Right.

We can't look it up online. No. We can't ask anyone. No. But so I don't know how we're ever going to find this. We need to like overhear it in the wild maybe. Right. We need to go out into the city in the pockets of...

Where the people live. Where the people live and where people are discussing species. Grassroots campaign. Yep. To find out if Scott Glenn was in species. Also, there should be a third rule. We can't rewatch species. Right.

Well, of course not. What we need to do is naturally let conversation about the movie. species occur and then be in those places, in those pockets. So we can overhear. We can lead a horse to water, but we can't make them drink. So we can't, we can be like, hey, anyone's seen species? But we can't then ask anyone is Scott Gleynne in species. Well, one of the rules is we can't say the word species while trying to ascertain whether

or not Scott Klein was in it. You know, you know who was a guest on our last episode? Yeah, of course. That I think we could try to call. Let me try to call him right now. See if he picks up. Okay. Hmm.

Who was it? Here's the thing. I know that Michael Madsen was in species. As established on our last episode, Michael Madsen definitely in species. Marg Helgenberger, the actor with the most hard Gs in their name. Right.

Is also in species. Yeah, she's the title character. She's the species. Yeah. And then Natasha Hensstri. Oh, Natasha Hensridge is the title character. She's the species. So, look, I tried to call Kyle Bornheimer,

who promised in our last episode that he was going to stay off socials and the internet so that he wouldn't know. So it wouldn't be spoiled for him, whether Scott Glenn was in Species or not. He didn't pick up. He must be... If he's watching Species, I am going to kick his ass. I'm going to kick his ass for other reasons. You know what?

We should just kick Kyle's ass. Yeah. So in the two years since we've done an episode, two and a half years, you have not learned whether Scott Glenn is in species. To knowing whether or not Scott Glenn is in species as I was 24 months ago. I feel like I'm even further away. Yeah. No. You know what?

Strike that. I feel like I'm further away too. It's so confusing these days what with the media landscape of like, oh, is this fake news? Everyone's in their own ecosystem getting the news. They're tiny little bubbles, as Don Ho said. Exactly. And so if you're looking for hard information. Yes, just hard answers.

Facts. Yeah, what are facts even these days? Is Scott Glenn? Who's deciding what a fact is? Exactly. A fact isn't a fungible item. No. Like the NFTs that you and I are selling, by the way.

Oh, yeah. Can we plug those? Yeah. We're making, these are not NFTs. These are FTs, actually. These are fungible teas. Yeah. They're T-shirts that are fungible. They're T-shirts that are super fungible.

They're S-FTs, actually. And they are quite expensive. Yes, they're super original fungible T's. Yeah. Which, of course, we know it's an acronym for soft. These are hard t-shirts, though, so we don't want that to be confusing. Rock hard teas. They're difficult to put on is the main issue.

And then once they're on, you need to basically go to a doctor to get it off, almost like they're cutting off a cast. That's right. But you love them. You could use a chisel, but you may injure yourself. Sure. Hey, Michelangelo, put the chisel down. Yeah. You know what thanks.

But that's mainly what we wanted to mention on this episode of. is Scott Glenn in Species, but I think that does it for us. Bye. Bye. Pretty good. Yeah. Is that longer than the last episode? It's about as long. We didn't have a special guest. Yeah, someone fully flaked. I mean, can you call it flaking when I texted him last night and he never texted back? Yeah. Yeah, you can. Well, that was a great one. I feel like they're going to get the answers they're looking for eventually. I hope it's not like the X-Files where it just turns out

that none of them ever figure out what the fuck is going on. I think it's fine. I think that they're eventually going to get there. Speaking of going to get there. That was a huge pause. Yeah. Well, I was trying to adjust.

Were these all live and picking things up? Yeah, maybe. Okay. He's talking about my staff. I was adjusting. I was adjusting mine. My housekeeping staff. all live, yes, they're all picking things up.

Get out of here. We're trying to, Adam and I are trying to do the 12th anniversary of this show. Get the fuck out of here. I think they're just excited. Wait, is this an episode of Get the Fuck Out of Here? Yeah. Hey, everyone, welcome to Get the Fuck Out of here. This is Scott.

And this is Scott. And we're going to start the show, as we traditionally do, by telling everyone in the room they Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. You, you, you, you and you. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, my God. Get the fuck out of here.

Oh, no, everyone's gone. Wait, is that what happens when you tell people to get the fuck out of here? Yeah. It's just us? It's just us now. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Bye. This classic. Very, very good. That's hitting all the, everything I like. about that show. I feel like... You know what I like about that show? Yeah. About that particular episode of that show is that it is firing on all cylinders. All cylinders. A lot like what an engine does.

Right, right, a car and motorcycle. Yeah. But you know what? I also, it's not, it didn't feel like a retread either. It felt like it was exploring new avenues in a surprising way while still delivering what I like about the show. In the world of so many reboots and sequels, blah, blah, blah. They're trying something new. It's original material. Speaking of reboots, I bought a new pair of galoshes the other day. Scott, that is... I hope you're writing that down because you don't want to waste that. I don't have a pen anywhere.

One sec. Oh, I'll take a pencil as well. Okay, is there a pencil? Or a quill dipped in ink. What about a pairing knife? Yeah, I guess I could use a pairing knife. cut into this apple? Yeah, you can carve it into the apple or your skin.

Here you go. Oh, I guess I'll just do the skin. Do you think the arm? I think the arm, because that way, if you time travel either into the future or the past, you'll forever have this reminder on your arm that this is a killer joke. So, but if I travel into the future, I can just look at it on my arm in the me in the future, unless I guess I die at some point in the future? Well, then you can look at your corpse and that,

Yes, I can still be... Yeah, that'll still be carved in your arm. But you'll have it in your arm as well. Do you think I'll be worm food at a certain point? How long does a corpse... How long do you think the skin on a corpse lasts? Two, three decades? Probably, right?

Yeah. Yeah, it's got it. Well, they're digging up dinosaur bones all the time that are fully intact. That's the thing. Hey, dinosaurs, get your own planet. What if they... Okay, we all know that... supposedly, and this is what we're talking about with facts.

Yeah. Facts are changing all the time. Hey, dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, you looked one way. Now you have feathers? Yeah. Who's in charge of sticking to a story here? Figure it out and stick to it, right? But everyone's-

We all know that dinosaurs were roaming the earth, what? 3,000 years ago. They, but supposedly this meteorite hits and they all die, right? Yeah, boo-hoo, you know? The meteorite was actually a spaceship that took them all to dinosaur planet. Are you serious? Yes. Shit.

Shit indeed. Holy shit. Is this an episode of shit indeed? I think it is. Hey, everyone. Welcome to shit indeed. This is Scott. And.

Boy, shit. Well, shit indeed. You know, when I think about... Okay. Bye. Short, but. Really. Delivered on its promise.

Yeah. I mean, you go there for shit indeed. You get what you're paying for. You get what you're paying for, which is nothing. Yeah. Well, yeah, but you do get the catchphrase of the century. Yeah, of this century. Actually, I think it's of the next century.

No, it's two centuries from now. Oh, okay. That catchphrase. That will take care of that period of, 100 years. Yep. 100, a full century. Or as I would like to call it in my younger years, 100 beers.

Can I get that pairing knife? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Thank you. How many beers do you think you've drank over your lifetime? Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, okay, let's see. Let's count them up. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Oh, no, you didn't drink that one.

You just, you had a second and you left it on the counter. Okay. Six. Seven, eight, nine. Wait, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, seventeen, eighteen, ten, eighteen, ten, eighteen, probably like six hundred. Yeah, somewhere on there. What about you? Um, one.

Two. That's it. Is that how long it took you to drink the beers? Yeah. And I had them this morning. That's why I remember. Is that why your autobiography is called two beers? Two beers, no fear.

Wow. Yes, Adam? Oh, by the way, I need to introduce you. Oh, yeah, go ahead. You know him from parks and or recreation. Then he, after that, he had a period where he was doing stuff, but like what's going to hit, what's going to land. I'm going to try this.

Maybe not. And then I'm going to do this. No one took to that necessarily. Maybe not that. Maybe people don't like that. Maybe people don't like that so much, but what if I tried this? No. Okay.

Sorry. Sorry. I want to apologize to the public at large. Back off of that one. And then suddenly a little place called Apple TV comes ringing. And a guy named Tim Cook is on the phone. On the other end of the phone, Adam picks it up and he goes, Hello?

Hello, this is Tim Cook calling. I have an intriguing opportunity for Adam Scott. I would love him to star in a little tele-tale show. We are making called Severance. How did you know about... Because it was me. Wait, that was you. That was me.

Tim Cook isn't even English. I didn't know that one. That's what I thought. I thought he was not a British gentleman. That came true. Wow. Because you came. That really lined up.

You came out in the trades and you said you were cast in severance. And everyone was like, oh. Wait. What? We didn't. Oh, I guess, well, okay. I guess he's good for it. A lot of people don't know.

That's how you get jobs in this. Yeah, you just announce yourself as getting jobs. You got the job, yeah. Wow, so you're telling me that I announced to that, and they were just like, well, he's backed us into a corner. Yep, may as well do it. Wow. Congratulations. He's on the show, Severance Emmy nominated.

How many Emmy nominations now for this? Oh, for the show, who knows? There's no, literally no way to count these up. No, you can't. There's no system. It's like, I got my abacus out, but no one's keeping track of it. Not enough beads. Yeah.

Um, please welcome the co-hosts of you talking you too to me, Adam Scott. Thank you. Thanks, I, Scott. Um, it's great to be here. I'm sorry. Skiat. Yeah, thank you. Um, and sitting next to me is the podcast extraordinaire.

The man, I'm a podcast. The podcaster extraordinaire. The man with a plan. The creator. of such unbelievable permanent stains on American comedy as comedy bang bang, comedy death ray, the television show, Comedy Bang Bang.

That's about it. And so many other things. Oh, by the way, someone that will be on tour this summer with comedy bang bang coming to a city near you sure if you happen to live in one of the cities that we're going to ladies you gentlemen i scott ockerman hey you forgot though my biggest credit of all what's that co-host of you talking you two to me well i thought that was sort of assumed implied perhaps but it's the thing i'm most proud of and the thing i think will go down on our uh joint gravestone yeah that's still that's still in the worst yeah right yeah spike lee

is involved. He's, it's a spikily joint headstone. Great. Was that a like past thing we talked to about? No. No, we've never spoken about it. That's so funny. This is me. Okay. You made those arrangements. I'm grateful. Look, I know that you're not the kind of guy who's going to be in there like working out the details of all, every little thing, right? So I just want to do things for. I don't like talking about that kind of stuff. So I'm glad that you're okay. Happy to do it. I actually love getting into the weeds on joint gravestones. I've done it for many, many people. Yep. And what I love about it, it's one big, it's like a, it's like a king-sized bed or a California king. Oh, yeah, California King. Now, why is, why is there a king-size, because as far as I

understand it, California King, it's just a little bit wider, wider, a little shorter and a little wider. I'm not sure if it's shorter. I think it, who knows. Okay. I don't want to correct you on something that I'm not 100% sure. I'm only 99% sure. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Why change it up?

Why not just stick with the king-sized bed? Why change it to, why have another option, California King? Is it because they want people to think that the bed itself is as big as California? I think it's actually because what a lot of people don't remember is California used to be its own monarchy. and it's all based on the guy who slept in the original one of these the king of California oh and he was like

I think this bed is too long this hairbed needs to be wider yes California king yes and then the guillotines came out they chopped off his head

chopped off the king's head yeah oh so also that's why it's a little shorter is so their so his head would hang off so they could chop it off. Yeah, exactly, yeah. That's super interesting. It's a really interesting story that you don't really hear about unless you grew up in the

California schools like Adam and I did. That's right. The California school system. Uh-huh. I feel like I have a piece of floss that broke off in my teeth. That's lovely. Isn't it annoying, like to have thread in your mouth? No, I like it.

You like thread in your mouth? I love thread in my mouth. Is this an episode of I love thread in my mouth? I think it is. Hey, everyone. Welcome to I love thread in my mouth. mouth. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're just two guys who have very simple tastes, very simple pedestrian tastes. That's right. We love. We love thread in our mouth. Um,

sometimes I like going to the store where they have, you know, sewing needs. Mm-hmm. Sowing needles. Sowing needles. Well, that's what I call needles. Oh, oh, oh, got it. Um, and, uh, and going to the aisle where they keep all the thread. Now, now, We should mention you pay for the thread in advance. You buy out the entire store before you go in there. Yeah. So it's not like you're going in there and putting thread in your mouth without paying for it and then leaving soggy thread for other. You've bought the entire stock of everything.

And everyone know, and you've instructed everyone, hey, you know it's me. Yeah. I bought everything in the store. Scott Ackerman's going to come in. Don't. Don't make a big deal. Don't act like you know. Right.

How did this turn to me suddenly? I thought this is a story about you. But it's something that we share. We both love thread. Much like our co-gravestone. That's right. We say, look, we're going to come in here. Pretend like you don't know us.

Yeah. In fact, be rude as hell to us. Yes. Stare at the floor. Stare at the floor and actually just like say, nah, I'm busy with another customer anytime we ask for help. Like, treat us like shit. Yeah.

No. Be rude. Be incredibly rude. We love it. Treat us like the dirty, doggy dicks that we are. Just treat us like dirty dicks.

And so we go in there and then we lick all the thread while you're yelling at us. I want someone screaming in my ear as I fill my mouth with yellow thread. Full metal jacket style. Oh yeah. Both. You just yelling insults in both

my ears. And I want my mouth so full of thread that I can't breathe. I want to suffocate on all of this thread that's going to be in my mouth. And this is what I get off on. Yeah. Well, for me, it's not even about, it's more about feeling complete. It's like that missing puzzle piece is finally in place. Yes, when you have the orgasm. That's what happens. So that's pretty much the beginning in the end of it. Okay, bye. We love it. Bye.

Huh. I mean, it's an interesting. It's a niche podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very select. I don't know that I share their interests, but. I respect them. Look, everyone has their own thing. I think it's clear you don't share their inches because it was annoying you to have thread in your mouth. Yeah. It's been 12 years. Yeah.

Yeah. What has changed in 12 years? Yeah, what's changed for you? Well, when we started the show, we were, I had little kids. Mm-hmm. And now, and they are missing, they've been missing for like eight years ever since then. Yeah, yeah. No, they're grown.

And now you have yourself a little whippersnapper. I do, I do. Oh, wait. Hold on. We got to go back to Scott Glenn in Species. Really? Oh, is Kyle. Kyle, I believe, is.

This is Kyle. Hi, Kyle. This is I, Scott. I Scott. I, Claudius. Yeah, exactly. Like, without the comma, it's not like I-Tanya. Just I-Scott.

It's like I-M-A-M. Without a space either. It's I-Scott. Yeah, it's like an iPhone. Yeah, and this over here, I'm here with Adam Skiot. Adam Skiot. These are great rebrands, guys. Don't you think?

We decided to put eyes in our name. How can we put an I in Kyle Bornheimer? Maybe it's more like Kylecom or Kyle. Kyle.org. I'm Kyle. Kyle.org. I like this. Yeah, that's terrific.

Could you just call up SAG and change it today, please? I mean, based on my career, I am a nonprofit. I'm starting with some good stuff here, guys. If you could do it while we're on this call, we would appreciate it. We would really appreciate it. But hey, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Kyle, shut the fuck up.

We have a very simple. We have a very simple. Question. Yeah. You know why we're calling. It's been two and a half years. And we pray that you have the answer to this. Yeah.

Could you know us out? No, it's not mimic, is it? Damn it. Is Scott Glenn in species? Sure. You know, I won't talk long, I promise. But my favorite thing to do, like, on a Tuesday night what I don't want to think is to put on a really mediocre 90s or 80s thriller.

Okay. And Scott Glenn is in all of them doing tremendous work. So I'm going to say Scott Glenn is 100% in species, nor should have been. Wait, you're guessing. Or should have been? This is not, should Scott Glenn have been in species. This is Scott Glenn in species. And God damn it's been two and a half years and you don't have absolute 100% certainty that he's in species?

I just became a dot org. I just got on the internet. And so let me give me some time. Give me another two years. Okay. There's no way to find out, guys. There's no. We would have to go back in time.

Not with the rules that we've established, which is we have to have seen species. And as I remember two and a half years ago, you didn't even know if you had seen species. No, I just knew that I maybe had seen mimic. Yes. They were similar and they came out around the same time. Am I correct about that? Maybe three years. They looked.

Yeah, they looked the same. Was Michael Madsen in Mimick and not species? Mirosorvino was in Mimic. Yeah, MIRA Survino. I believe. And Mimic, I think, had some indie street cred to it. Germo D'Ltarro. Germo D'Ltar.

Yeah. Okay, bye. I thought that was an interesting analysis. I wonder if he feels Scott Glenn was in lots of thrillers because he was in Silence of the Lambs. And so after that, he got offered every single thriller. Maybe. I remember my good friend Michael Jackson got offered every single thriller after his song.

Wait, is this an episode of I Love Films? I think it is. Hey, everyone, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And look, as established in our last episode, we hate movies. You know what? Movies can walk straight out the door.

Movies can suck this little dingling. We hate them. not there just isn't room for them okay look we don't have enough headspace in our tiny little brains exactly we're busy people we live on planet earth yeah thank god and in our dimension in uh earth one yeah on earth one yeah here at home we love films we love films what are we talking when we say we love films. Like shot on celluloid? How about that?

Yeah, how about that for a change? You know what I mean? Like, everything's shot on Digi these days. Don't even say that word. I hate it. I hate it so much. We're talking real films. We're talking like, I'm trying to think of one.

Yeah. Oh, it's easy. There's so many to choose from. You can, you can choose the one from that decade from before. I can't think of any either. No, I can think of, there are hundreds to choose from. There's probably hundreds of films that exist. Yeah, you can, there's a guy with the, I can't think of a single.

He has a bow tie and he's sitting on a street corner. The bow tie man. The bow tie man. The bow tie man. Perfect example of a true film. Beautiful film. Beautiful film. And also huge blockbuster.

So many. Sometimes that goes hand in hand. It made so many dollars. So Bucco Dolores. Bucco Dolores, and it proved that you can have a film, a real film that resonates with people, the man and the bowtie. The bowtie man. The bowtie, yeah, exactly. And then I think they made a sequel, but it doesn't matter.

Yeah, well, they did a reboot, a female reboot. Yep. The bowtie man, but now is a woman. Just the bow tie. The bow tie. And it was also a great film. It didn't make. as little money, it made way more.

So many dollars, but it doesn't matter how much money a film makes. It doesn't matter, although sometimes the best films, honestly, are the ones that are the most popular. Because we vote with our dollars in a lot of ways. It's like it's November 6th and you're going to the voting booth. Exactly. It's as solemn. Bring your checkbook. Yes.

You pay for movies with checks. That's right. And you pay for your votes. Look, if you ever go to the. This November, when you go to the ballot box, as they say, bring your checkbook because they'll let you have extra votes. That's right. And that's the only way we can win. That's the only way we can win.

And that's the only way good films can be seen. That's the only way good films is if you bring your checkbook to every screening and you just write checks. The entire time. Then throw them at the screen. Watch the movie. Don't. God, I can't even imagine watching a movie. No.

Forget it. Write checks. Write checks. Bye. So wait, that was an episode of I Love Films. Yeah. Oh, okay. Good to hear them back.

It didn't seem like they knew, like neither of them could recall the title of any films. Well, considering on their last episode, I believe, it was established that the films they were talking about in I Love Films was the film you leave on a shower after you. It's kind of a... Really? Yeah, it's kind of a step up. Wow. Okay. I kind of feel like they're back in the pocket now a little bit.

At least they are talking about them. At least they're in a movie theater. Yeah. They're just throwing checks in a screen, but oh well. So so much has changed over the past 12 years, but the one thing that hasn't changed is this is a show exclusively about a certain band. A certain band that we love to talk about, Adam and I. or I'm sorry, Adam Skiot. Thank you.

We love to talk about him. Of course we're talking. Adam, do you want to say it? Oh, yeah. Okay, well, I think you should. Okay. Around now. Okay.

Now, this band is incredibly important. I mean, obviously, this podcast is exclusively about them. Exclusively about them and about nothing else. So they have to be important for us to spend this, amount of time on it. Right. They and by the way, we know every single one of their names. Yeah. We could. And have for some time. I would say, I think we, I think we did mention their names on episode one. That was an important part of proving our bona fides, if you will. As if we had to, but yeah, sometimes you have to bow down and prove to everybody that you've got those big bees. And

I have a huge beat right now. And I'm happy to trot out our knowledge about this band at any opportunity. Sure. Including the band member names. Should we just maybe show off a little bit, give the people what they want? Let's get some flash, if not substance. And say the names of the band members. I'm getting serious.

He's taken off his jacket. He's rolling up his shirt sleeves. It's almost like it's 4 p.m. on a work day. It's almost like the dress code is relaxing. I'm on stage and I'm campaigning. Yeah, that's right. Who are we talking about? We're talking about...

Okay, there's four members of this band we're talking about. Sure, really? Yeah. Wait, how many did you think there were? I thought there were three. Ooh. Wait, did we do an episode about the Vegas show? Yeah.

Okay. That was our last episode. That's the last one we did. Yeah. Okay. Exciting episode. where we went into, as I recall, you told a great story. And I told you to save it for the talk shows.

And then I've watched all of your talk show appearances. And you've never told it. Well, it was all about how you had a noon flight to Vegas. And then it got delayed. And so you called up everyone and scrambled and took a 1030. So you could take a nap when you got to Vegas. It was so good. That's a great.

I can't believe I didn't tell. that story. You told it on this show and... Yeah, but I should have also... Because you've been on... You've made the circuit. Sure. Well, you know, I'm about to do the...

The whole thing again, so I can, I can trot that one out. Yeah, why not? It's a great story. I mean, that's a great story. I mean, I, look, I can't tell it the way you told it. Sure. You had some just incredible details. No, there's a certain magic.

So, okay, so why don't we start with, uh, with the drummer? Start with a drummer. He pounds the skins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's bought at least two symbols in his life. Maybe more. The at symbol on his Twitter profile. Right.

And also, oh no, the other one was an emoji. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bought the throwing up emoji. Yeah. He owns that. He owns that one. He owns that one. He gets paid.

Yeah, so I'm sorry, one symbol. He's bought one symbol in his life. he is the man who provides the beat in the back. Oh, yeah. He's a man who struggles, I think, sometimes to peer above his drum kit to see what's going on with the other members of the band. Yeah. And that can be an impediment sometimes. Sometimes he'll be pounding those drums and then he'll stop and stand up and look and the band is gone.

The fans are gone. And he's just been hitting drums. Like the show ended hours ago. The show ended hours ago and he's still back there. It's hard to see above the drums. That's a common, common occurrence with drummers. That's what happens when you're a drummer. And you, you know, you factor that in.

Yeah. When you're in a band. Like some days you're going to miss the bus because you're out there at Madison Square Garden and you're still pounding these drums. And everyone's like, okay. Yeah, we're in Toledo, bro. That has some bad routing. Yeah.

By the way, Madison Square Garden to Toledo. Straight to Toledo. Straight to. On a bus? That's right. But who are we talking about? We are talking about Larry Mullen, Seniors, son. Great, great drummer.

Great drummer. Especially for this band. Oh, yeah. Larry Mullen, senior son. Next up is... Should be sticking the... Rhythm, stick to the rhythm section? Let's go straight to the other side of the rhythm section.

Okay. So the lead singer. That's right. Lead singer of this particular band. Look, every band, unless you're an instrumental band, every band has one. A lead singer. Yeah. It's nothing special.

Every band with singing has a singer. So it's not like we go, oh, he's a lead singer. Wow, that's so rare. Right. Oh, wow, that's so incredible that this band has a lead singer. No, it's pretty common. And common is a rapper. Yeah.

So it's like, it makes the point for you. Exactly. So we're not saying like, oh, wow, what a rare commodity. What a precious gem of a job he has. But I'll be goddamned. And I hope I am sometime. Yeah. If he's not the best at it

Oh, yeah. He put the capital F in front man. Right? If you know what we're talking about. Yeah. If it's at the start of a sentence. Yeah, you put it. Yeah, exactly.

If it's in the middle of a sentence, you probably would leave the lower case. Much like the eye in my name. Sure, sure, sure. Who are we talking about it? We're talking about the one and only. But no, boas. That's him.

Love him. The best. The best bassist in the world. The best basest in the world. And on lead vocals. Lead vocals is a bassist. A bassist. I would say the spiritual heart of the band.

I would say the jazz man of the band. I wouldn't go that far. Okay. I don't want to be on record. Actually, if you ask me about it on deep background. By the way, speaking of deep background. Yeah. I don't believe we've talked about this on the show.

No, not yet. So there's a huge New York Times. profile of our good friend Adam Skiat that comes out about severance, right? Who do they contact? That was the New Yorker. Oh, sorry, the New Yorker.

Yeah. It wasn't the old gray lady? They called, they called, Who do they contact, but yours truly and they say, we want to talk to you about Adam Skiont? I give an interview where I blow the biggest amount of smoke up

your fucking ass. I say the nicest things about you. Things I would never say to your face. And I say, oh my God, I can't even remember what it was because, frankly, it was all a load of bullshit. But anyway, at least an hour, if not an hour and a half of my time that I spent on it. The very end of the interview, this so-called journalist. Rachel, who's terrific. Okay.

Well, let me tell you what happens. Rachel says, so are you doing a new season of your show? And I say, off the record? I know how this game works. I say off the record. She says, yes. Really? And I say, yeah, well, we have an idea for one.

And I tell her what the idea is. I open up this little article. The only thing, the only reference to me in it is me saying, me saying what the title of this show is. The one thing I asked me off the record. What is going on with? She probably thought you were kidding. Why?

I don't know. Is that journalism rules? If they're kidding. Probably because it seemed like information that would never need to be secret. I don't know. Anyway, great profile. That's really funny. Anyway.

And what was the name again? that we were thinking about. We're maybe going to do it down the line, so I don't want to... Okay, okay. But you can look it up. Okay. And she didn't even get that name right, by the way. She didn't?

No. Okay. But great profile. I'm glad to see that you're finally getting some recognition for your work. Um, yeah, the lead singer slash bassist. Yep. The jazz man. Mm-hmm.

This is the one, the only. Adam Clay, $2,000. thousand pounds. That's his name. That's his name. And then also bringing up the rear. Yeah.

He always makes sure to stand behind other members of the band or behind a post. So he can get in all the photos. Yeah. But he doesn't want to be recognized. He's wanted in most countries. And so he doesn't want a clear picture of him being taken, especially with facial ID these days. Oh, yeah. You know, he'll, I mean, to be really careful.

He'll go to jail for decades. Sure. For being so good at guitar. Yeah. Yeah. Of course we're talking about. Fedge. And together.

So that's Fedge. Adam Clay 2,000 pounds. Larry Mullen, senior son, and bonobos. Mm-hmm. Together they are the four. Together they're in a super group. I think it's a super group because honestly, all four of them are in this band that we're talking about.

And if they all started a band together, you'd go like, holy shit, this is a super group. Yeah, who are these guys? So it's already a super group. Sure. Of course we're talking about the band. Two. Four lads from Liverpool. The most lovable lads you would ever want to live with.

They started back in the 60s in Hamburg. Yep, early 60s. They built up their chops. 10,000 hours. They put out. several singles and several albums as a band called The Beatles. Then they broke up, got back together in the late 70s. I mean, this is all documented, proven.

This is all stuff that we know about. They got back together in the late 70s, changed their name to Hugh 2. Hugh 2. Put out a few more albums. Yep. And that pretty much brings us up to date. Yeah. So was it last?

Last week. Yeah. Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. You know what? We're going to talk about it, but we do have to take a break. Oh, okay. How long is it, Ben?

About 55 minutes. Okay. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk about what Hugh two has been up to. We'll be right back with more, you talking you two to me after this. You talking you two to me. This is I Scott and Skiat. Skiyot.

Skiy! We're back with a vengeance. And we want to take vengeance upon our enemies. I have a question. Yeah. Do you feel that compared with 12 and a half years ago? 12, exactly. Oh, 12.

12 years ago. Like, you've heard of the immortal bard in his classic, probably his best known work, 12th night. Yes, of course. It's very similar to that in our first episode was 12 years ago. 12 years ago. Do you feel you listen to as much music as you did 12 years ago? I do. I do personally.

I don't know if you do. Probably not. Probably not. Is it not as important to your life anymore? Especially you have a job now. I think part of why we started this was to have like somewhere to talk about music, kind of, because it was there. There were less outlets for us.

Yeah, sure. Sure, there were rooms. Yeah, there's always a room. We're not wandering around in the woods. If you're worried about us being outside in the elements without any kind of protection, no, we're not wandering nude in the woods. No, no, no, no. I feel like people think we record this in the woods.

Nude. I think you're right. Because a lot of the fan art draws us nude in the woods. Yeah, it's very weird. I love it. I love it. But it's strange. And we've gone backwards from that trying to figure out, well, why do they think this?

And we hit upon, they must think we're nude in the woods when we record this. Forest nudists. Which was the original title of Forrest Gump, was it not? Yes, Forrest Nudists. And Forrest Whitaker. The original title of that. And Forrest Whitaker was in species, I think. Was he?

I don't know. I don't know. We can't. We can't get off on that. I don't know. I can't. There could be another podcast was Forrest Whitaker and species. There's so many species-related podcasts.

Right? There's that species recap podcast where they recap the movie species over and over and over again. Is there really? Yeah. No way. And we host it. I think it's time for an episode of it. Yeah.

Let's do it. Hey, everyone. Welcome to. species with you talking species with you mecies wow that's right bye bye was that it was that how is

their shortest episode oh my god oh my pardon my wheeze by the way did you just get over being yeah if if anyone's concerned I know I know some people are concerned because I have occasional coughs on all of my shows.

It's literally my daughter getting me sick. I have taken MRIs and x-rays. Everything's fine with me. But, you know, when you have a young kid, always sick. Always sick and always gets me sick and is worse with me. But no, I have a little bit of a wheeze. It's fun to listen to, I think. It's super sexy.

Yeah, I don't, I mean, also, even though this is a podcast, when we started making this, the podcasts weren't nearly as prevalent. Podcasts are now like. The main way that anyone spends their time. It's crazy. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about was when we started the show 12 years ago. And we've managed to make no money at it with this particular show. Oh, yeah. We, in fact, have spent more money making this show. That's right. Considering our, do you think U-2 flew us out on the vertigo plane to go interview them? No, they did not. No.

But, and of course, you know, we rented a private jet for ourselves, but as we always do. We always do. We got to travel on the PJ. But when we first started the show 12 years ago, we started the show in anticipation of U-2's new record, which you had heard rumors. was coming out. Yeah, there was an LA Times article about it. I consider that to be a rumor. I remember looking at the LA Times article and texting you. And then going like, I'm reading about this rumor. Yes.

But it was supposed to come out in the spring. Right. So we, we- 2014, spring of 2014. So we started this show in February of 2014, anticipating that our final episode, a few weeks later was going to be talking about the new album. And then they delayed the album for so long.

But here's what I was thinking about. When that album came out and it was called songs. Songs of innocence. I think it was just called songs. Songs, sure. There was the whole, I don't know if you remember this. God, it's been 14 years at this point. Does anyone even remember this?

The whole kerfuffle. 12 years ago, that's right. A 12th night. That's right. The whole kerfuffle over, oh, they put it on all of our phones. Yeah. Because people actually, because Spotify wasn't around, so you had to like, nowadays they just put it up on Spotify and go like, yeah, it's free. Anyone, you know, anyone listens to, or Spotify or Apple music or whatever.

Right, because back then you could only get an album if you bought it on Apple. If you downloaded it or synced it to your phone or whatever. That's right. There was no like Apple music streaming or Spotify. Yeah, which nowadays they would just go listen to it. It's. Oh, that's so weird to think. That's right.

That's why it was such a big deal. because everyone was like... Everyone's like, you violated my phone. And now like all music is on all of our phones. Right. Get the fuck out of you. But there was also the... Didn't they also like set it to automatically download to people's phones?

Or if people had that setting chosen on their phone, turned on their phone. Yes, download your new music or whatever. Then it was. People were like, oh, this is a violation of my privacy. People made a big... But now they're okay. with like ring cameras, you know, recording everything they see and tracking people. You needed to really want it to get offended by an album, a free album.

Yeah. But I was. Oh, deeply. I was fucking pissed. But I do remember kind of... You were on a plane when it came out. I don't know if you remember. I was coming back from...

We were shooting parks and wrecks somewhere. Probably... In the park. Indianapolis. A park in Indianapolis. And I remember it was announced as we were coming in for a landing. And it was trying to. It was in the Apple event that they do in September or whenever.

And they, didn't they bring him out, Bonobos himself? No, they played. They played it, right. They played the lead single. Right. And they were like, hey, guess what, everyone. This album's free and it's on all of your phones. And you were in the air and you were like, I'm trying to download this, Motherfucker.

Yeah. And then you landed and listened to it first thing. I listened to it on the drive home. And we mobilized. But they played the lead single, which was the miracle of Joey Ramon, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I remember we really liked the album and thought it was kind of a bummer that it was being overshadowed. Yeah. Yeah. And I like the, I think we both liked the follow-up, too. The sort of companion record. Yeah, yeah. It was good.

Yeah. And that was, so they have not put out an album in, they put out like a, of new music. Yeah. They have not put out an album since, yeah, in 2017, is that it, is that right? I think so. That's when songs of experience came out. Yep, 2017. They put out like a one-off single here.

there. Yeah. But 2017, so it's been nine years. Nine years. And when we were doing this show 12 years ago, we were like, these guys need to get off their fucking asses. Yeah, because it had been four or five years at that point. I remember saying to Bonobos when we met him, I was like, get off your fucking ass.

Yeah, come on, man. And put out shit. And they were sort of like, I think at the time, like, yeah, we're spending too much time on these records. We got to put out shit somewhere. Yeah. Then nine years go by. but they put they also put out that album where they did like quiet versions of all their songs

and we talked about that but that's or of a bunch of their songs i don't consider that to be a real no it's not an album a real thing but um yeah but so and then they did the octoon baby thing in yeah so they've been out and we and and in between our last episode adam and i saw bonobos on broadway we were invited that was we did an episode on that i don't think so really we do we maybe talked about it in the middle of one of our Interesting. Okay. Springsteen chose. And there's also that they did. They put that out. Is this an episode of You Spring and Springsteen on my being?

I think so. From, oh man, I forgot how this starts. From born to run to born in the USA. Is that what it is? This is, you spring and Springsteen on my bean, the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things. Bruce. Good to hear Cadillac Ranch again. The best. A lot's been going on with Bruce since our last episode.

Yeah. He just had a song. He put out his first new song since our last episode. Because he put out a bunch of, he put out the tracks stuff. Right. But his last like album album was. 2020. Yeah, that was our last episode of, we covered it.

Letter to you. Letter to you. And then he put out tracks and a bunch of stuff. And there was the movie and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. But he put out his first new song in five, six years or so. And it's a protest song. Yeah.

And did you listen to it? Do you want to hear a little bit of it? Yeah, let's hear it. All right. Ooh, guitar. That's a good way to start. Unusual for him. Unusual for him.

Down to Gillette Avenue. A city of flame fought fire and ice beneath an occupier's boots. King Trump's private army from the DHS. Guns belted to their coats. Came to Minneapolis to enforce the law. or so their story goes against smoke and rubber bullets in the dawn's early light

citizens stood for justice their voices ringing through the night and there were bloody footprints where mercy should have stood And two dead left to die on snow-filled streets, Alex Pretty and Renner. I hear you. Like I stand for this land.

And the stranger in amber the names of those who died on the streets of Minneapolis. Trump's federal thugs. I like that it's, okay, look, he recorded it like over the weekend. Yeah. And just put it out. I love that about it. Me too. I love it and it's like it's in the tradition of Woody Guthr and Pete Seeger.

Yeah, stuff like that. About Dylan back in the day, just like a protest song. Yeah. I like that about it. It may not be like the most complex melody he's ever done or whatever. And neither were a lot of those protests. Yeah, exactly. It just feels pretty basic that it was like people getting mad and putting out songs saying like this sucks.

Hell yeah. and that was it's it's what is still happening there it's absurd and horrifying and fuck those guys fuck those guys look if you're a member of ice fuck you I'm willing to go on record um but uh but but uh I mean pretty pretty cool that he put out a song um and look if that's the last song he ever puts out great I mean not great well I hope it's not but like I would have made He must be, like, working on something, right? Well, he, I think we talked about it on our last episode. He's had writer's block forever.

Oh, is that right? Yeah, yeah. God, I don't remember that. So he, he kind of after, like, around Springsteen on Broadway was like, I don't, I don't know if I have anything left to say. Yeah. And then his bandmate passed away. And so he wrote his last record kind of as a, like, ode to death in a way.

And so it's kind of like, you know, I mean, it's been a while since he put out stuff. So I was kind of like, that may be it for Bruce. But he got fucking mad. He got pissed and he puts this out. Good for him. There's got to be more. I mean, it's just so funny because as time goes on and these like secret albums come out. I mean, of course he has.

Did you listen to tracks two? Not really. I listened to the streets of Philadelphia one. That was really good. Yeah. The whole album he made at the time of. Streets of Philadelphia. Yeah.

That one's a really good one. I haven't totally... I must have listened to it when it came out. It came out like a year ago, right? Yeah, and I was saving it in case we were going to do an episode, and then we never did. Yeah. So I haven't really listened to it all that much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, um, enjoyed that. But I, I, I liked that he put that song out, and it's part of why I like this, this, uh, that you too put out this new EPE as well. Uh, we're not talking about them. We're talking about... That's not what I'm talking about, yeah. Spring Bean over here. That wasn't a real.

Oh, comment I just made. But are you going to see him when he, on this leg of the tour? When is that? April, I believe. Maple?

Yeah, maybe. As my friend Kevin Porter says, it's time to go and live out. Yeah. Yeah, maybe so. Looking forward to it. And that's going to do it for us. How do we end?

I don't remember how it... How do we end these shows? I don't think there's a uniform ending that we would use. Let me listen to one of our previous episodes. I'll skip to the end. And we'll see how we end this show. That's the beginning. Okay. Skipping.

Skipping. Skipping. Skipping. Are we going to do it? Skipping. When we do. We hope that you found what you're looking for. That's right.

Until next time, we hope that you found what you're looking for. Bye. Yeah. Really. Good. Lots of info. Lots of information. That's what I meant.

Information when I say info. If you're listening to podcasts purely for information, that was packed to the gills. Yeah. And that podcast had. gills. It did. That was a fish. That was, when we say fish, we're talking about,

yes. So we're in the middle of this fish. Yep. About, uh, the band, Hugh, two. And, um, much like Springno,

yeah, over there. Yeah. They surprised everybody. We, we were saying that it's been nine years since their last record. Yeah, it's crazy.

And that's, that album, one was good too. What? Songs of experience. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was good. It was good shit.

And we were kind of like, hey, let's, now that you're, you're back in the groove. We went and saw him at Madison Square Garden and he name checks us from the fucking stage. Listen to our previous episodes for the incredible saga. But we kind of felt like these guys are back in the groove. They're going to just like regularly put out stuff like they used to, you know? Like, sure, take a year. Well, in between. records or two even.

Larry Mullen Sr.'s son was not a part of the Octum Baby Vegas shows because he was getting surgery. Yeah. Back? Back issues. Yeah. And, but he's back. Yeah.

Pun, most certainly intended. Very good. Write that on your arm with a razor blade. Oh, with a razor blade. Okay. Yeah. The pairing knife is all worn out. I have a Occam's razor right there.

That's 100% fine. I'm sorry, Ackermann's Razor. Oh, yeah. Very good. Write that one down to on your penis. On my penis. But so, would you believe, as they used to say on a little show called Get Smart. Write that down on your chest.

What, get smart? Just that, whatever, everything you say, write it in Razor Blade on your body. All right, sure, yeah. Last week, we're just sitting around mining our goddamn business. Yeah. What were you doing? I was twiddling my fucking thumbs. As was I.

My favorite activity. I love to twiddling my thumbs. Oh, my God. It's so fun. Let's do some right now. I almost hit my thumb. I almost hit my other thumb. I know.

It's really hard to keep them from touching. Yeah. Oh, I got so fun. Here we go. Twiddling our thumbs. But so we're just sitting around. It's Wednesday, February. Is that when it was?

It was a week ago? 18th. Yeah. And Ash Wednesday. Which is important. That's right. Which is why it's calm when it's calm. Nope.

Nope. And we're just sitting around. We're like, well, I guess nothing interesting. thing's going to happen today. May as well go back to bed. This is 9 a.m. or so on the West Coast. You're definitely not going to put out new material today. This morning I checked and there's nothing going on.

So back to bed I go. And then, you've got mail. Yeah. I fire up the modem. I get on to my AOL account. Sure. And my mail says, hey, check the computer.

Yeah. So I turn off my AOL account. You log out. I log out. I turn the computer rack on. Fire up the old modem. I check you two.com. Mm-hmm.

and guess what? What? You don't know? No. Oh, they put out a new record. Oh, yeah, no, I knew that. Oh, you did know that. Okay, yeah, yeah.

An EP. An EP, at first I thought it was, I thought they got into the podcasting game because it's Days of Ash Epp is what I thought it was. And I was like, hmm, good ep. Yeah. No, it's an EP, which stands for, as we all know,

episode. Yeah. Or extended play. Isn't it, for an EP, is it still, does that still mean, that doesn't mean extended.

It means episode now. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, uh, they put out something called days of ash episode. Yep.

And it's six songs, really five songs and a segue. Yes. Everyone gets a segue who listens to this. That was the one thing they did. They were like, look on your phones. You all have segways.

and then you look and then it gives you an address to go pick up your segue. So go pick up the segue. Yeah. Honestly, it was not worth it to me because it was about three blocks away. And I was like, God. Yeah,

you're like, how am I going to get back? Yeah. I can make it there. How am I going to get back with this huge segue? So, yeah. So what did you?

I heard about it because you texted it. I was wondering if I broke the news to you. You broke the news to me. Because I texted you the actual link. to the album, or the episode. And you sent me an Apple Music link. Does that mean you're on Apple Music now? I don't like to talk about my personal subscriptions.

Oh, of course, still subscribe to Playboy for the articles. Okay. Some really good articles recently. The best. This one article about, hey, check out the boobs on the following pages. Was fascinating to me. Yeah. Always the best.

But yeah, I sent you the link and we were like, let's mobilize. Oh, yeah. And one week later, we were able to find a little bit of time. And I got to say, I heard from a lot of people on the old social media saying, when's the episode coming? When's the episode? We said, no, it's already out, Days of Ash episode.

And they said, not that episode. Not that episode, you dumb motherfuckers. Exactly. And we were like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, we are dumb motherfuckers. what are you talking about? Yeah. And they said, you used to do a show called You Talk and You Two to Me.

And you've released, you've done an episode every time they've released an official record. Where's this one? And we were like, oh, I forgot about that. Right. So we're going to, look, we're going to do what we always do. We're going to go through this Days of Ash episode. and we're going to make an episode out of it and we're going to talk about it.

Okay, but we are, we do need to take a break. So. Another one? Another one. Another one. Another one. Is DJ Khalid on this record? We'll find out after this.

We'll be right back with more, you talking you two to me right after this. Hey, welcome back. You talking you two to me. We are, of course, talking about... Is this the Bee Gees or you too? That's so funny that you say that. Yeah. I love it.

I love it. Is it the Bee Gees? Yeah. Okay, good. I love the Beegis. Oh, yeah. I love their song, Sunday Bloody Sunday. Me too.

I like it when the Bejys play Hey Jude. Yep. It's my favorite BG's song. Just kidding. Thank you. Oh, my God. I was so scared. You were not kidding. Yeah, no, I was kidding.

Good kid. I love the Beach's song. Is this an episode of Good Kid? Yeah. You're a good kid. You're a good kid. Welcome to Good Kid. This is Scott.

And this is Scott. And we're out there. This is the podcast dedicated to all the little youngsters out there who, well, all the good youngsters. Well, I was going to say the ones who appear on a certain section of Santa's list. Yeah. The nice list. We're talking about good kids.

Good kids. Kids that will be getting presents. And we're here to celebrate every week, of course, we do this. We celebrate one particular child out there. You out there, you Americans, North America, Americans, South Americans. Yeah. But Americans. Yeah.

You nominate certain children to be recognized on this show. Yeah. We get hundreds of thousands of submissions. Yeah. And we sift through them all personally. Yeah. And we throw, honestly, we throw most of them in the goddamn trash. Yeah, we shred them.

Yeah. Without opening them. Without opening them because it's like we can't spend our lives. This is a side podcast for us. Yeah. You know, we're in the middle of our show. You talking to you too to me most of the time. Uh-huh.

We have time to sift through hundreds of thousands of submissions. Yeah. Who the fuck do you think we think we? are. Yeah, we, you know what, we don't have time to do this. We, we, honestly, I, someone is, is trying to grab me by a big long crook around the neck trying to get me out of this, this, this podcast right. Yeah, pulling, yeah. Yeah, so as far as I'm concerned, we, the kid we choose should be a, an arsonist. Like, I don't give a, I don't, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Anyway, so, uh, who did we pick this, this week?

I have no clue. Well, his name is Chauncey. Okay. Chauncey Letleroy. All right. What did Chauncey do? Got to open up the envelope here. Chauncey ate one potato when his mom said, eat some of your potatoes.

Great. Okay, congratsy. Okay, congratsy. Yeah. Big, you know, I hate to, you know, look, one of my favorite movies, the BFG, I'm going to go a little bit different and say BFD, big fucking deal. Yeah, totally. One potato?

Who cares? Hey, talk to people during the potato famine. They would love to eat more than one potato, and you're sitting here bragging because you ate one potato? Yeah. No, I mean. The fuck out of here, Chauncey. Chauncey Eat shit

I'm going to say Bye You're the good kid You're a good kid That I'm going to say biggest turnaround For a podcast Yeah they did that so quick

Like it sounded like this was going to be One thing And then it It sounded like it was going to be a heartwarming Kind of feel good podcast 100% And then they were begging To eat shit

Yeah By the end of it But hey, that's why we listen. That's right. This is why we listen. I'm just addicted to that podcast. I'm addicted to it. We're here talking about the Houtu record that just came out last week, a mere week ago, called Days of Ash.

Epp. And, Adam, have you listened to this that much? Or are you relatively new to it? I listened to it the day it came out, and honestly, I haven't really had much time. We've been out there taking meetings. You're, I noticed you brought your briefcase with you. I never. My briefcase is always at my side.

Always at your side. It's, in fact, chained to your wrist. That's right. And I notice your briefcase has nuclear football on it? Yeah, there is a football inside of this briefcase. Oh, cool. Do you want to toss it around a little bit? Yeah, sure.

After we finish recording, we can go outside. It is made of nuclear materials. Oh, okay. Well, that's going to be maybe an issue for me health-wise. Well, it's an issue for everyone in the, you know, three-square-mile radius. Yeah. From, I don't want to say exactly where we are recording this. Well, don't because we'll get sued.

Yeah. Good point. Yeah, if a nuclear bomb goes off in the next day or so, it wasn't us. Don't blame us. The shaggy defense, twasn't us. I mean, we can always cut this from the podcast, but that's too much trouble. It's too much trouble. We don't want to do this up.

Anyway, so I've listened to it a little bit, and this much akin to the Springsteen, well, let's talk about the stats, first of all. It came out February 18, 2026. Yep. Exactly when we said. It. You mean before when we were talking about when it came out? Yeah.

Congrats to us. Right on the money. Length? Usually I don't like to talk about that. But in this case, I'll make an exception. 23 minutes and 30 seconds. Brief. Pretty brief.

But that's what EPs used to be like. Used to be 10 and 10. label island they're still on island producer the man who is manning the DJ boards when we went to see bonobos on Broadway yeah jack knife Lee jack knife Lee who did uh the RM's last two records yeah last two the great jack knifeley and honestly if his name was just jack lee that would be cool already but they had nice to it? Jack Knife. That fucking rules. Well, it adds an element of danger. Yeah, a lot of times I don't like my musicians to be dangerous.

Hmm. Because I like... You know what I mean? I like the safety of knowing when I turn on a record. Yeah. It's going to be like a warm hug. I love it. So when I hear a guy named Jackknife is involved, it's like, I don't know, is this going

to be edgy or something? Turns out it is, but it also turned out that I liked it. Okay. So he produced the app. He produced it. It is six tracks. One is just a spoken word piece with some music behind it and it's only a minute long. So it's really like five new songs.

Right. So, yeah. Sorry, go ahead. No, no. Didn't they say that they're in the middle of recording their next album? They promised that the album's coming out in the fall. Yeah, yeah. And that this was like, here's what they said about it.

They said, this is more Ash Wednesday than Fat Tuesday, meaning their album that comes out in the fall is going to be more of a party vibe. Right. But like all of these songs are like political and kind of protest songs, much like what Springo put out. Like timely. Timely. Couldn't wait. Couldn't wait. And so they just were like, you know what, let's put it all out.

And you know what? I say good for them. Yeah, absolutely. Why the fuck not? Absolutely. I think we need more of this. Yeah, just put shit out. Yes.

To be honest, it's not as quick as Springo did it. Springo did it over the weekend and just put it out. These guys have been taking a little bit more care with it because the one particular song about the same subject matter does not mention the second person who passed away in Minnesota. Alex Prattie. Yeah. But so, you know, it seems like it, they put a little more, it didn't, they didn't rush it as much as Spring O. Right, right. But it seems right in terms of like, for people who haven't put out a record in nine years, this is pretty quick.

Yeah, yeah. Every song sort of deals with something that's going on in the news. Yeah. Ukraine. Ukraine. The Palestinian. Yep. Stuff.

Are we prepared to talk about any of this on our funny comedy podcast? I don't know. We don't know. But, you know, one thing I do want to say is these guys over the past few months have put out some statements about things that are going on that some have been saying like, oh, it's a little mealy-mouthed. It's a little like, oh, are you not taking a stand? I did read the bonobos quotes in the. magazine that came out along with this, what's it called? Oh, propaganda?

Propaganda. And I guess he actually pinpoints a little bit more clearly of what his stance is. Around ice? Not around ice, around the Hamas, Palestine, Israel stuff, which I thought was like a pretty clear, like, condemnation of what was going on. And does he talk about Ukraine as well and ice and stuff? Not so much in that interview. Because I read a quote somewhere else where he was talking about Ukraine and how the U.S.

has sort of deserted them. Yeah, no, he does. You're right. You're right. Yeah, that was all in. Yeah, I thought it was a good. Yeah. Because like a few months back, I think they were asked about what was going on.

And they were sort of like going, ah, they were very vague about stuff. So I felt like at least Bonobos was like out there going like with a pretty clear. and sane message about like what is going on in in terms of because you know you can read this you can listen to this this EP and be like oh are they trying to both sides everything you know but he's pretty clear about what he yeah what he means anyway

and the the ice stuff is while he was pretty yes yes yes which there really isn't a lot of nuance to the ice stuff no the ice stuff fucking sucks Yeah, it's really awful. So the first song is actually about Minnesota. Yeah. And ice, do we want to hear a little bit of it?

Yeah, let's do it. Here we go. This is American Obituary on Hugh talking Hugh Too to me. Mother's love a guiding hand to pick you up to crush her like a coffee cup. Why? Close ain't got a yellow bus. Our children teach us who to trust. The worst can't kill what's best in us.

but they can try America against the people of the life What I like? I love that Jack Knifely Kind of raw Raw dog Clashy

No condom No condom rock and roll That's what we like That intro also does sound Like the clash a bit To me too Which is kind of cool What I like is

It's like You know When Vertigo came out I think maybe we talked about this It's been 12 years So I don't really know But in that particular episode

like Vertigo's kind of it's dumb and and prash and just like not about anything it's about it's about vibes it's a vibe song where it's just like Cotorcee rock and roll and this is sort of like that sound but actually about

something more serious because it gets into the more you listen to it like it name checks Renee Good and is very specifically about what's going on with ice and so while not being like the Springo song, which is like a pretty basic...

Yeah, it's basically just telling the story of what's happening. It's like a ballad. This is more like, no, this is a pop song. Yeah. That is going to make you investigate this issue while still, you know, having a melody. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

And I like the hook and I like the chorus. I had only heard it once before. And so hearing it again, I feel like I'll need to listen to it a few times, but it's, it's, it's cool. I plan on listening to it. Pretty good. After the show's over. Yeah.

I'm not going to throw this away, probably. No, I'm not going to delete it from the world. From the world. Yeah. You can do that now. No, I, I like it. I kind of sometimes feel like the talk, talking through the verse is sometimes a bit of a cheat. Well, it's, I know what you mean because, like, it's, it's.

It's like right a top line or whatever, but that's kind of this type of song. That's right. It's like a, it's almost like patter. That's right. In a way, you know, like this and that. Yeah. Yeah. This and that.

And also, also this. Hello, hello. I feel like it's appropriate for this moment too. Yeah. Yeah. People don't want to be sung to. No. No one wants to hear elongated syllables.

Oh, it's like, old McDonald. Had a farm. E.I. I guess, shut the fuck up. Old McDonald had a farm. E.I. E.I. Oh.

Much better. My ears can listen to that without the abrasiveness of a melody. Yeah. Yeah. But I enjoy that one. Yeah, me too. I would say my second favorite song on The Thing. Okay.

On The Thing. All right. Let's hear. Track two, this is the tears of things or the tears of things. Okay. I honestly don't know. Could be talking about a garment of his that had several tears. Yeah.

Much like Jesus. He loves talking about Jesus. Maybe he's talking about when Jesus tore his clothes or whatever. Didn't that happen? Yeah, his shroud. Yeah. Didn't he fall down once too and like skinned his knee? And it was like, I don't.

I don't. I don't. God, I can't wait to die to ask him about that. It's going to be so awesome. It's going to be awesome. Okay, this is the tears or tears of things by Hugh Too. There's no start to this story and I can see no end. Two young men hearing voices whisper in the wind.

I woke up made of marble, a shepherd boy in shock. Michael Angelo release me from a single block. I'm David the giant killer with heart-shaped eyes. I was naked as a soldier far from my mother's cries. Oh, the tears of things, the tears of things rising like a flood. The tears of things, the tears of things. I'd cry them if I'd. was it you Lord I was listening to you didn't say much said let my fingers form you be fashioned by my touch

be open to be broken as every heart that sings no voice and drum can overcome a symphony of strings said you'd make of me an instrument for melody and word I was And it goes that fall asunder was really you I heard. Or the tears of things, the tears of things. Songs made out of rain. Does it have like a big... I don't... We'll let it play a little bit softly underneath us to see where it changes. It is...

Let's just talk about musically for a second. Kind of reminds me, it's very complex. It's like... Here's a little bit. It's complex musically in a way that you two songs sometimes are not. There's a lot of chords. It kind of reminds me of like one shot of happy, two shots of sad. In a way of like, it's more of a...

song written on the piano or like a torch song kind of a little bit. But then there's a little bit of the old edge chimie in the back. Let's see where it goes. This feels a little... It's turning more and more into a YouTube song. Right there, yeah.

And the piano's coming in more. Yeah. Hell, if I were working on this, would I simplify the verse a little bit? Maybe. But it's cool. Yeah. Some people say this is like their favorite thing on the record because it's...

And then this part. Okay, so... Look, it's also a song, it's a sort of very political song. Yeah, this is kind of a called arms against authoritarianism

around the world kind of thing. It borrows its title from a book of the same name by Richard Roar that's centered on the prophets of the Bible. I guess it's a conversation between Michelangelo

and his statue David. Whoa, okay. But also is like centered on the ongoing conflict in Gaza. And, you know, I mean, without, we'll just kind of say what Bono has said about what's going on, which is basically he's, you know, without being mealy-mouthed ourselves. He's saying that what happened on October 7th was shit, but it doesn't justify the response of Netanyahu. and what's happening in Palestine's horrible.

And anyway, so he's like, they're on the record about saying this, which is... Bono is. Yeah, Bono is, yeah. So whereas everything was a little vague before then about how he felt about stuff. And this song is about that. Got it. But it also references like the Holocaust, where it says six million voices silenced in just four years. The silent song, Christendom, so loud to everybody.

years. Kind of just talking about authoritarianism in general. Yeah. What do we think? I think it's pretty and I kind of, I like that when it started, I was like, it kind of feels like it's a little unsteady. It's not sure. But then it really comes together.

I like the big build of it. What I was going to say is like, yeah, they could, they could have put it through another three years of drafts. Right. Like they're prone to. doing and trying to really make it like the ultimate you two song and it's good to hear something where they're just like you know what this is where we're at right now i kind of feel that way about the first song to it sort of feels like it's it hasn't been produced and rewritten to death

we're getting a work and progress more than a completely finished thing which is like you know what it's just kind of fun if if they were to be like because the springo song that we heard he did a radio mix of it after he put it out too oh he did yeah so it's like you know know what? If you want to... Was it just more polished or... Yeah, the version he put out was just slapped together in like two days. It wasn't...

I don't think it's like shorter or anything. It's just a different mix. Yeah. It sounds a little less raw. Huh. Raw dog. You know, no condom rock and roll. Our favorite kind.

Yep. So that's the tiers of things. And, uh, let's hear track three. You up for it? Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's a radio mix of streets of Minneapolis. Interesting. Yeah.

What are you going to do with that information? Shep it up your ass. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to keep it as a secret. Okay. We just talked about it. Yeah, but it's still a secret. Okay.

All right, let's hear track three. This is Song of the Future by a little band called Hewto. Huteu. The future as everyone knows is where we'll go to be spent. in the rest of our life who said the future is close Never saw the promise in her Song of the Future

This is the first single I gotta say this is To me the best thing on the EP Yeah sounds It starts with a staring at the sun Kind of vibe But then goes into sort of early U-2 Yeah

I like that great bass line Melody of the chorus And then the chorus actually shifts to something else. And he's double tracking his, he's doing a harmony, vocal. Yeah. It feels the most finished so far. And who is it he's singing about?

Okay, so this honors the schoolgirl uprising in Iran. And he's talking about Serena, and pardon me if I don't pronounce this exactly right, but Esmail Zadeh. And also Gina Masa Amini, two Iranian women who were killed by police in 2020. 2020. I'm just going to say 20 over and over 2020, 2020, 2020. No, 2022. And this is a song honoring them. I like that he's not only honoring her by name checking her in the song, but it's the chorus. And it sounds. And it sounds like cool. Yeah. Yeah. I like that song. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Okay, so then

Then we have the sort of It's just the poem The segue, the poem, yeah So let's hear a little bit of this This is Wild Peace by a band called Hu-2 Not the piece of a ceasefire Not even the vision

Of the wolf and the lamb But rather, As in the heart When the excitement is over That I know how to kill That makes me an adult And my son plays with a We don't want to open and close its eyes and say, Mama, a piece without that, the big noise of beating swords and plowshares, without words, without the third of the heavy robber.

We don't want to play the whole thing, but that's the vibe of it. It's a poem of the same name by Israeli poet Yehuda Amikai, perhaps, hopefully. and read by Nigerian artist Adiola Fahoon who just goes by Adiola? Yeah. Or Adola? Adola maybe.

Apologies. Look, this is fresh off the presses. And we're two dumb shits. And honestly, we've been relying on our eye company to give us all this information. Yeah. And it's, look, it's not very good. It is not working.

It's not working out for us at all. It doesn't function. It sunk our life savings and the life savings of everyone. Many, many others. Into this, and it's not going well for us. Anyway, so we're not really all that smart. So apologies if we're mispronouncing some of these names. Sorry, as Gilly once said, at least once.

Also, Jack Knife Lee, I think, gets a credit. as being by him as well. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, it's, I don't know. What do we think? Yeah, I think, again, the... It's a segue. Yeah.

It's a lot like this thing that I decided not to pick up three blocks away. A segue, right. You decided not to go home in it or on it. Mm-hmm. Okay, so let's hear the next real track or full song. I don't mean to imply that the previous thing wasn't a real track But this is one life at a time You've heard of one day at a time

Yeah, the TV show Yeah, this is one life at a time Here we go by Hugh two How much years enough You can screw or fix things up The world's one life at a time Look around What you see depends on

All right. All right. One life at a time. Oh, by the way, here's classic edge sounding guitar. The delay pedal is back, boys. He, I like hearing that. I was reading that he had pawned it. And he finally got enough money to get up.

To get it back. Good for him. Good for Thedge. I wonder if they held it for him or if he had to go find who picked it up. He found who picked it up and he. Ooh, they must have really jacked up the price. Yeah. It was like he he ponded for I think $40 and they made him pay $50. Oh, bummer. Yeah. Bummer for Thedge. But, okay, now that is written for Al-Dah Athalene, a Palestinian father of three who was killed in the West Bank. by an Israeli settler. He was a consultant on the Oscar-winning documentary No Other Land, made by Palestinians and Israelis. And at his funeral, one of the directors of the film spoke about how the experience of Palestinians is being erased one life at a time, which Bonobos took that and made a song

about it. He actually, I believe, recited some of those lyrics a few months back at an award ceremony or something and so people have known this song is in the worry he was saying this is from an upcoming song um what do we think it sounds like uh you know an album track from a u2 album right you know hey and we love you two albums listen i'm here for it as they say um so then we have one final song and um this is called Yours eternally, and it's by a band by the name of Hugh Too. Hugh, too.

Don't sleep, party to dream as we can be eternally. We are calling ourselves these days. My current location, I cannot disclose. It's nowhere that I've been before, but emotionally we're on the same room. Laugh at me. Don't sleep. Don't even think about it. No need.

Maybe a little bit still dream about waking up free as we can be. Yours eternally, Adam. That's right. A sentiment that I share about you. I'm yes eternally. Listen to that. Yeah. That is featuring a Ukrainian musician turned soldier,

Teres Topolia, as well as a guy by the name of Ed Shearren. I wonder what Ed Shearin's doing on that song. Is he singing? He's singing definitely. Yeah, I think he's just singing. I don't think it's guitar. Although I've read some people say like, and this is mainly people in the UK who are I don't think that we're as familiar with edge here and stuff

as people in the UK. He's played there a lot. Like, we know who he is. He's huge over here. He's huge, but I wouldn't say, like, we're constantly hearing his songs all the time. Right, I guess. A few, the shape of you or whatever.

But, like, I think people in the UK go, like the minute this turns on, they go, oh, this sounds like Ed Shearling. Oh, really? Yeah. They're like, the minute it starts, they're like, oh, this is an Ed Sheeran thing. Did he write it with them?

No. Maybe actually, well, let me look. He does have a lyric credit. So who knows what he actually wrote? So this, I mean, I love that there's a Ukrainian musician on it. I think that's great. And this is all about the conflicts in Ukraine. Sure.

It almost sounds like a band making a song to sound like you too a little bit. A little bit, yeah. It also, this feels like the most. cooked thing here. It feels like this is a couple years in the making. This written in the form of a letter from a soldier on active duty. It's going to be accompanied by a short four and a half minute documentary film. Like it's all, this feels like you two stuff. You know, like it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. And this feels like the most like picked over thing. Adding edge here into it. I think is another thing of like it doesn't feel as immediate maybe as the other stuff.

Yeah. Sure. It feels to me musically it's a little like. recent cold play to me, which is... It's funny because they did this briefly on No Line on the Horizon on one of those songs and then did it a little bit on songs of experience, doing this

thing of a lot of overdubbing, a lot of people singing at once, kind of... Boop, boop. Yeah, it almost sounds like they're hearkening back to YouTube, like a classic U-2 thing that never really was.

A classic YouTube thing. Because they don't have like big chorus vocals on their early stuff. Yeah. Because pride in the name of love, that's just him. Yeah. What are we? Yeah. Because it feels like that's something that like Coldplay did echoing YouTube,

but YouTube never really did that in the first place. There's like a particular Coldplay song, recent Coldplay song off their newest album, which is particularly egregious with this, where it gets like a million people to sing on it on the chorus or whatever. It feels like. like they really were like this is a million voices. Yeah, yeah.

It's like it, but it feels like cold play trying to be pop a little bit to me. So it's not my favorite. But enjoy the sentiments. Yeah, of course. I just like that they did this whole thing because, you know, it's easy to,

it's all been said before, but it's easy to kind of get all of this stuff normalized. but the fact is is that people were murdered by the government and the government immediately lied about them and called them terrorists.

I mean, it is horrifying. Yeah. It's awful. And so I think the more... And not a lot of artists, at least when I say that, I know there are like more independent artists

out there making music about this, but not a lot of the big artists are really talking about this. And so it's great to see Springo and Hugh, too, coming out with stuff that's pretty immediately after in the aftermath of all of a lot of this yeah and saying like hey everyone you know let's

I would love to see more people step up with stuff like this step up to the streets um so and then the other thing that I like about this is sometimes these particular types of songs on a huteu album are the ones that kind of drag it down these big like like yeah trying to be a big statement songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And so, and so, and sometimes they're, they're great. Pride in the name of love is a big statement song. But pride is, is about a specific thing. I think the more general they get, the, the less interesting. Or the more thematic about like, no, love is the, yeah. I feel like, I feel like American obituary has a few of those types of Bonobo Z. Yeah, I love you as much as hate loves war. Yeah, stuff like that where it's kind of like,

all right. Yeah. But so sometimes that can sort of drag down a record for me. So I like that they're just like, you know what? Here's five of them. Yeah. In one place. And yeah, our record coming out a little later in the year is going to be more of a party record according to them.

Who knows? But who knows what that means? I'm sure they'll have some sort of Yahweh thing on the interloper on there. But I do like them just going like, you know what? Fuck this. Let's put it out. And let's get it out there. because this stuff is too important to be, you know, micromanaged and labored over years and years and years.

Yeah, I love that they did it. Yeah, that they put it out. And I think Song of the Future is a hit, according to me. Good. Is there any other records you've passed a year or so that you've been into or anything lately? No, I hate it. That's great. That's great.

No, there's Things here and there Excuse me There's Oh, our good friend Dan Mann could put out A wonderful record And no, there's

I mean, I listen to a lot of music So a lot of new music Did you do the snow caps album? Yeah, that was cool right? Yeah, yeah, I like snow caps And You know, there's a lot of shit That I like

But look, this is not the place to talk about it Okay What we're here to talk about Is a band The Taylor Swift album was good I actually do like that Taylor Swiftin album. I know. It's fucking great. I'm of course, I wouldn't spend a ton of time listening to it other than the fact that my daughter loves to dance around to it and requests it all the time.

And then when the chorus hits goes, are you ready? And then forces us to chant go Emmy, go Emmy, go, go, go, go Emmy while she dances around to it. So that's maybe made me have a little more affinity for it. But I also think it's also just great, like those songs. I mean, great analysis that it's also great. In addition to what you said. You know that Ophelia song is. Fate of Ophelia.

That's not a simple hook. It's not easy to do. That is a complicated song. Kind of on some of this stuff that we just listened to. It's like coming up with hooky melody. is a little tougher than opalite too Opelite's great that's the one that she loves

to dance around to you yeah but I think Ophelia yeah there's great songs anyway but we're not that's a separate show our Taylor Swift podcast that's coming up

wouldn't that be the worst no one wants to hear us do that no one wants to hear us do a Taylor Swift podcast I don't I'm not even a big fan up until like maybe

an album or two ago really you know I mean I think maybe around lover is a little better for me. But hey, you know, I'm a big fan. Well, you know, you've been out there. You have a teenage daughter. You've been to the concerts, right? Yeah.

Didn't you wear the bracelets or whatever? Sure did. Did you make bracelets or did you have your assistant do it? That's right. I hired a team of people to make me bracelets. Incredible shows and records. It's all. It's all great.

You heard it here. Adam likes the most popular singer in the world. Icono class. Stepping out on a limb for Taylor Swift. We need more people like you out there banging, beating the drum on Taylor Swift's behalf. But also that Snowcaps album, I think, is really terrific. Yes. And that's all.

Just Taylor Swift and Snowcaps. Two artists for the rest of your life would be sad. Those two. Well, Adam, I feel like that about does it for us. Yeah, I mean, there has been R-E-M stuff in the past couple of years that we haven't addressed. I wonder if... We're not in the middle of that show. What's that?

We're not in the middle of that show. No, I know. But if we do need to do another episode at some point, maybe we could revisit those guys could revisit that particular podcast. Great podcast. Podcasting royalty, Chuck Bryant. invited me to their show on Friday in Athens at the 40-watt club where traditionally all the members of REM play with him. I could not make it, but a great invite from a great guy. Who was playing?

Oh, sorry, Michael Shannon's R&M project. Oh, yeah, they were in town. They were in town, and John Hamm asked us to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And neither of us could. I wish I could have. You said you had a dinner, and I was like, hey, they serve food at the concert, I'm sure. I could have rerouted my dinner to the concert venue.

But that's, I mean, other stuff's going on, but we don't have time to talk about it. We got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, come on. So that's going to do it for us. Until next time, we certainly and sincerely hope that you have found what you're looking for.