U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb

Episode Date: May 7, 2014

Uno, dos, tres, catorce! Adam Scott Aukerman discuss U2′s eleventh studio album How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb for the entirety of today’s episode. They’ll share their different opinions on the album, talk about the U2 iPod commercial, go through the album song by song, and touch on the Vertigo Tour. Plus, they recall their time meeting the President of the United States and play a little memento for the podcast recorded from inside the White House. This episode is sponsored by:  Stamps.com . Click here for a special $110 Bonus Offer!  Qello : Instantly stream full length HD concerts. Go to www.Qello.com/VIP/U2talk for a free trial.  ProFlowers : Use offer code U2 for a great deal just in time for Mother’s Day.

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And now, on with the show. From boy to boots, getting them on, that is, this is you talking U2 to me, the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things U2. And by that countdown, you know what album we are discussing on today's show. Uno, dos, tres, quatorze. We are discussing how to dismantle an atomic bomb the entire show. We are going to talk about every little detail. Throw away your computers. You will no longer need them.

Are you actually telling people to throw their computers into the garbage? Look, recycle them if you have to. Okay, that's fine. Okay, good. I know you're Mr. Environmental. Yeah. Listen, if it harms the earth, I'm going to have to stop you from encouraging it. Okay.

That's my slogan. It's a catchy one might catch on i'm not sure um welcome to you talking you two to me as i discussed um compendium all things you two we got slurping joe over here hey this is slurping joe coming at you you slurp a little closer to that microphone? Was that audible? It was as audible as audible.com. Hey. Welcome to the show. I am one of your hosts.

You know me from Comedy Bang Bang the podcast. Maybe even more importantly, Comedy Bang Bang the TV show, which if you're listening to this the day it comes out, third season comes out tomorrow. Wow. Set your DVRs or fuck it, just watch it live. Thursday night.

Thursday night, 10.30, 9.30 Central, if you're in the Central time zone. 10.30 PM or AM? It's actually PM. I think there should be three different 10.30s. Don't you think there should be an AM, a PM, and like a BM? Yeah. This week, comedy bang bang and a special time, 1030

BM. There should be a third time that we repeat the numbers when people just take shits. 1030 BM just means it's your 10th and a half BM of the day.

And that's when it just plays in your brain. We talked in a previous show how many shits we take a day. Go back to episode eight for that discussion. We got to move on today. Well, it's how many shits we think the average person probably takes probably and we are not the average person we're in show business yeah listen we are far from average folks so for us it's 1200 times a day stars they're not just like us hey that's showbiz guys when you're acting uh-huh yeah you use your entire body. It's like being an athlete.

Yes. So you got to take 1,400 shits. Well, for me, it's 1,200 shits, Scott. By the way, comedy bang bang. Look, I'm just a guy just like you. Okay? I'm just a regular Hollywood actor with a symmetrical face. I'm sitting across just a wooden table.

Knock, knock, knock. It's a table. It's not a door. Put my shoes on one at a time. Sure. Hey, I would love it if they would invent a way to put shoes on two at a time. There is a way, Scott. Tell me.

You need two pulley systems. Two pulleys? Not one pulley system with two pulleys? Two separate pulley systems that do not intersect and they don't touch each other. They don't work together. Not in conjunction with each other. They both have to be white colored. Okay.

They both need to be the color white and at all times they must be immaculate. Okay. Dust free. Dust free. And if there is dust on them, you need to fire everyone who works for you. Wait, even people who are not at my house, not my house staff, my office staff and my house staff. They are somehow responsible, your office staff. I just took off my shoes, by the way. Is that going to bother you? Well, now that I know you did it,

it might bother me. Can I just talk to the listeners for a second? I have not introduced you, but go ahead. Can you take off your headphones just for a second? Okay, here we go. First of all, listeners, I'd like to talk about the sound that Scott's ears make when he takes his headphones off. It's because neither of his ears have skin on them. So every time he puts a headphone on,

the rubber foam... I've got to interrupt you. My ear is really itchy. I've got to scratch my ear. Okay. Can you believe that that's not even what I wanted to talk to you about? What I wanted to talk to you about. You're talking to me?

Oh, no, you're talking to me. No, I'm talking to the listeners. Are you talking to you too to me? I'm talking you too to the listeners. If I sounded all distracted tonight, listeners, just know that it's because, not because Scott took his shoes off. It's because of my knowledge that Scott took his shoes off. And I don't want you to think it's you.

It's Scott's insistence on letting me know that he took his shoes off. Thank you very much. Can I put these back on? Please put them back on. That's better. Hey, if you can do it on a plane, what's your opinion of taking shoes off on a plane? I think that, look, not in first class either,

in just regular coach economy. Of course, that's all I fly. I think that you should be allowed to take your shoes off, but it's up to the individual. If you have feet that smell horrible, keep your shoes on. How do people know if they have feet that smell horrible? Like when they're trick-or-treating, maybe they implore people to smell their feet? Yes. That's actually the perfect time is when you're trick-or-treating. Smell their feet? Yes.

That's actually the perfect time is when you're trick-or-treating. If there's a knock on the door, you open the door, they say trick-or-treat. You say, all right. Smell my feet? Yes. That's what you say, and you stick your foot right in their little fucking faces. Wait, so they say trick-or-treat, then you say smell my feet.

Yes. And then they have to smell your feet, and if they smell the feet, they get candy. They get candy, but they have to be completely honest with you. Do you get trick-or-treaters at your place? We haven't lived there during Halloween. Oh, that's going to be a great Halloween. But, okay, if every single time someone came to the door and said,

trick or treat, and then you took off your shoe, shoved your foot in their face, and said, smell my feet. Yeah. How do you think they would react? I can only imagine how their parents would react. Because on average. Do you live in one of those neighborhoods where kids are with parents when they trick-or-treat? I don't know.

I haven't been there for Halloween yet. That's going to be a good Halloween. Well, it seems like now just trick-or-treaters don't really come to houses. It's always like designated areas, at least in Los Angeles, right? It's like dead-end streets when they close off the street to traffic and you can go run around and get your goddamn candy. But guys like us, we don't live in the suburbs. You know what I mean? Of course not.

We're in those houses in the hills looking down at the people that look like ants. Just blasting our tunes. Blasting our diarrhea. Waving our penises. Blasting diarrhea and waving penises. Hey, guys. Flop, flop, flop, flop. blasting diarrhea and waving penises hey guys happy halloween all right i have to introduce you i haven't even introduced myself i do you know me from comedy

bang bang please watch it this thursday 10 30 9 30 central season premiere with pat and oswalt i'm watching at 10 30 bm watch it this Thursday, 1030, 930 Central, season premiere with Patton Oswalt. I'm watching it at 1030 BM. I am Scott, and across the table from me, you know him from, he's going to go on a little trip this Christmas, and you're going to go with him, a trip in a time machine located within a hot tub. That's right. Hot tub time machine two, the star. Do you play the hot tub or the time machine?

I play the water in the hot tub. Really? You know, your body is made up of 90% water, so it doesn't surprise me. Yeah. Steve Pink, the director of the movie, was like, okay, I've got these guys. I've got these guys. I've got all the guys from the original movie like they could not locate what enough water to fill this hot tub because they

had ice oh well they had ice but you need ice to make a movie so they couldn't melt the ice no of course not and that's a big hot tub i don't know if you noticed in the first movie it's a giant giant giant giant hot tub like a person fit inside of it uh four four guys four guys four guys fit in the hot tub so it's big yeah grown men it's a big one that'd be cool it's like four boys four little boys three grown men and clark duke all fit into the is he he back? Is Clark Duke back? Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. Here we go. So, I said I'd be the water, so that's... Mm-hmm.

Now I got the role. Great. I think we should bail out of that. Good stuff. Good bit? Yeah, great bit. Hey, welcome to Great Bits, by the way. Do we have a theme song for this? Yeah.

Should we open up the old Great Bit podcast? Here we go. Hey, welcome to another episode of Great Bits. Hey, everybody. I'm Scott. Hey, I'm Scott, and you are listening. You are listening to Great Bits. Great Bits, Scott.

Hey, thanks so much. Let's close it up. Boy, good podcast. Strong. It's a strong new entry. Oh, I was talking about my coffee. What? Sorry.

It was as if we were doing an episode of Great Bits. Are you hearing a lot of echo because we have that door open? Like when I go, what? Do you hear that? Like you can hear it in the other room. I don't know. We're in the new Earwolf Studios. Should I close the door?

I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, maybe just close it. Don't shut it all the way. What the fuck are you doing? Don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, maybe just close it. Like, don't shut it all the way. What the fuck are you doing? Don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's pretty good.

That sounds better. We were the first show to ever record in the new Earwolf recording studio. I don't know if we talked about that on the last one. We briefly talked about it. Did we? Okay. studio i don't know if we talked about that on the last one we briefly talked about did we okay so uh we were the first show and now we're back and they've they've sort of uh set it up to be a little more soundproof but it all looks great in here has everyone have a lot of shows recorded in here

since then i mean that was a while that was already like five weeks ago yeah we have not been together for a while and by the way we are completely caught up and yes we have not recorded an episode since the last one that you all heard so this episode that we're recording now is going to be day after tomorrow after tomorrow it'll be up so we're like caught up we're behind we started this in december by the way and it's cinco de mayo right now yeah so we have been recording these very stealthily and very erratically. Yeah. But we're all caught up now, and we really need to start cranking these out to get them.

And by the way, what are we sacrificing? Just, like, what are we sacrificing so people know what we sacrifice in order to do this show? Like, what could you be doing tonight? Putting my children to bed and you didn't do that tonight no because you said seven o'clock i thought we were doing it at nine o'clock well we had to do two episodes tonight you know right yeah ooh the next episode is going to be a good one oh yeah this one yeah not so good but we do have big news. Before we get to how to dismantle an atomic bomb, by the way, did I introduce you? Hot tub time machine.

Right. Parks and recreation. Right. Got to talk about that finale. Boy. Oh, yeah. Did you watch it? Yeah, I watched it.

Now, no spoilers to anyone out there, but were you wearing your own tuxedo? No. That's someone dressed you in it. That's so funny because when I saw you last week, I was wearing a suit and you said, is that your tuxedo? No. That's someone dressed you in that. That's so funny, because when I saw you last week, I was wearing a suit, and you said, is that your tuxedo? You just so clearly associate me with having Fascinated with that tuxedo.

You really are. Well, you know, I told you the story about, like, in last season of Comedy Bang Bang, we needed someone to act on the show, and they had to have their own tuxedo. Right. And I i said i know the guy and you were there at a moment's notice i think when i came and did a comedy bang bang live show i you came in your own tux i brought my tux which is why i knew you owned one but i think

i had worn it to some other comedy bang bang thing before that is like for some reason i thought you might or maybe that was the first time who cares and then you went on conan i believe with your own tuxedo i think i did yeah but that was but that was after you did it on a live show with me yeah you kind of sold out a little bit yeah did it on conan yeah because we all know uh going on conan is a total sellout. But what were we trying to say? Yeah, you're Scott, by the way. Scott's here. Hey, everyone. This is Scott. You're not going to say hello to your family? You're not going to say hello to my

family? I'd like to say hello to you, Scott. Engineer Cody, I'd like to say hello to you. I would like to say hello to you, Scott. Engineer Cody, I'd like to say hello to you. I would like to say hello to my friends. I would like to say hello to the new studio. It's very nice. By the way, going on Conan is not a sellout of any sort.

Well, you're sort of a sellout just in general. That's true. sort of a sellout just in general is that's true uh so we have not seen each other in this capacity for a while i feel like the last time that we was it five weeks or like three weeks it was a while yeah i don't even know how long ago it was but we but we uh we've not sat across the desk from each other for a long time but But what we have done – should we talk about this? Should we talk about where we saw each other last? Yeah, totally. Why not?

We should talk about this? Do you think not? Why don't you think we should? I'm kind of acting because I know we're going to talk about this. Okay. All right. All right. Where we have seen each other is we saw each other in a little town.

Do you want to say it or do I want to say it? I think you really want to say it. That's what it sounds like. I know. We already talked about that I was going to say it. I'm just acting. God. This is so confusing. I think it's mostly confusing because your acting is so good.

Thank you so much. Do you really? That's so nice coming from an actor like you. You're great, Scott. You're a great actor. Thank you so much. Usually I just tell you off the air and that's enough. So we saw each other in a little town called Washington, D.C.

We saw each other on Thursday. And what were we doing there? Sorry. Are you playing something? No, I'm not. I accidentally turned on something on the computer and just started playing something. I'm looking something up, which is why I have such halting speech right now, because I'm looking for something on the computer.

Why don't you take over a little fucking bit? Scott and I saw each other, ran, literally ran into each other. Literally smacked each other in our big couple of coconuts. Bonk! In, inside, not just at. Not at.

The facility. Definitely, don't say at. Inside the east wing of the White House. The White House. The White House. We were both inside of it. It was pretty crazy. And while we were...

Should we talk about why we were there? Why we were there, definitely. People who know me know, and people who listen to the other show or just who know my career, know that I co-created and direct the Between Two Ferns videos, and we did one with Barack Obama recently. President Barack Obama. Okay, President Barack Obama. Really? Well, it's a federal offense. Really? Is it a federal offense? recently um president barack obama pres okay president barack obama really you're gonna i know well it's a it's a federal offense to is it a federal offense i think it might be is it really just call to just call him barack obama uh let me look it up

use the search function wait a second is this an episode of great bits my god that that podcast of ours has cursed every other bit we've done. So both of us made videos that tied into the Affordable Health Care Act. Right. Which was a bit of policy. If you're listening to this in the future, it was something that happened in 2014. Yeah. Just a footnote in history. Yes. It was something that happened in 2014. Yeah. Just a footnote in history.

Yes. But we both made videos. I made a Between Two Ferns video starring President Barack Obama, which has been viewed just on the Funny or Die website 22 million times. Adam made a video. I'm looking it up. It's called A Message from Stepbrothers, Adam scott and it has been viewed 250 000 times and yet we both ended up in the white house it's kind of you to point that out scott so we both went and we both both went with our significant others. Yes. Mine is pretty significant.

I'm married to her. Yeah. Cool up. Yeah. And you, describe your situation. Because I couldn't quite figure out what was going on. We're married. She is my wife.

Okay. I wasn't getting that vibe. Really? No. She seemed like she was kind of like Had a rolling eye Was she checking you out? Is that what you're saying? She looked at my little butt at one point

Your little butt? Is that what you call your penis? Yeah, it's smaller than my big butt No, we were both there with our Significance With our lemony snicket Others With our significant others going to a reception, which was kind of a thank you for everyone that worked in support of the Affordable Care Act. There were some athletes, some actors.

There were athletes there. There were actors there, like Billy Eichner was there. He doesn't fit into either of those two categories well he's he's actually a an olympic athlete oh i had no idea there but then it was it was like three four hundred people there were i'd go a little less than that but really yeah there were supposed to be a hundred and i think people some people there were bummed that there were like 200 oh i thought it was maybe more. Maybe. It could have been.

I don't know. But then there were tech people there, all the people that worked on reviving the website. Like it was a – A big thank you luncheon. Yes. It wasn't even a luncheon. They served canapes. Yes, and drinks. Like people were drinking.

A lot of drinks. Like, I got fucked up, dude. But right before – because the president and the first lady came out to give a speech, a thank you speech to everybody. But before that, some of us got to go and say hello to the president and first lady and take a photo. That's right. Now, here's how this all went down. At a certain point, I get the word, hey, man, go meet by the jfk portrait um and jfk by the way the portrait in the white house in the east wing he's looking down you can't see his eyes because it's one of

the only portraits that was created posthumously yeah and the painter did not feel comfortable painting the eyes of a dead man is that really the story? Yes, we learned that in the tour earlier. Oh, that's interesting. They said, hey, go meet at the JFK portrait and you're going to go meet the president. And they said to me, unfortunately, because Kulop is right there holding my hand, we're not ashamed. We have PDAs.

Public displays. But you guys do public displays? I love a good public dis-space. But they said, unfortunately, this is not a plus one situation. So Kulop won't be able to go. Oh, that sucks.

Was she super bummed? So meanwhile, I see Adam Scott and his wife. I don't know if you want to say his wife i don't know if you want to say her name on this podcast but she may guest on it at some point so we can't say her name she we i've said her naomi i've said okay great all of a sudden i see adam scott and naomi go by the jfk portrait and get ushered in after I've just been told it's not a plus one situation. And I try to follow you guys, and Kulop is clasping my hand like,

don't let go, just get me in here. Right. And they stop me at the door and go, sorry, she can't come in. Oh, man. I didn't know any of this went down. Yeah. And I'm like,

no, I was telling you. You're like, I have 77 million views. This guy, 250K. Yeah. But I just was like, you know what? Hollywood stars, they get whatever the fuck they want. That's crazy. I had no idea that was going on.

I told Naomi that and she was like, oh, I think I just – I snuck in or I slipped. She was being nice about it. But it is – you figure out your status very quickly in a situation like that. Right. You figure out who's on an NBC show, who's on an IFC show. Right. You know what I mean? And let's be frank, you're on an NBC show.

And you're on an IFC show. Hey, that's been an episode of Let's Be Frank. You know what, I would like to amend that by saying, how about you say, let's be frank, and I'm going to show you a different way to use that same phrase. Let's be frank. Okay. Hi, everyone. I'm Frank.

And that's been an episode of Let's Be Frank. I love you. Good episode. That was pretty good. That was a good episode. So in any case, Kulop's bumming. Although I'm not seeing this. So then you were like, sorry, honey.

I feel like I have to go in. Yeah, I have to go meet the president. Oh, boy. And she was like, yes, go ahead. Yeah, she's bumming. So anyway, you and I are talking in the middle of the room. We don't know a lot of people there. Did you know anyone else there?

Not really. I mean, I knew Billy and Mike farah maybe mike yeah um at one point nia long start started talking yeah yeah yeah yeah um because i saw her tuck in her son i'm presuming it's her son tuck in her son's shirt like you're about to meet the president yeah yeah and she saw me see that and like laughed and went haha and, ha, ha. And then what are you doing here? And I couldn't explain myself. But so you and I are talking and very slow. Bill Nye, the science guy. Oh, yeah. He was really nice.

He was a nice dude. Very slowly, everyone starts getting pulled away to a line. Right. To go meet the president. Right. And they're getting put in a weird order. It wasn't, you know, it was like. It seemed like a really specific order.

Yeah, like you have to stand here, you have to stand here. We find out, and by the way, should we say that we were talking to one of Obama's chief advisors. Yes. And Adam, Adam goes, hey, you know, we have a podcast called You Talking U2 to Me. Yeah. And then we talked about it for a really long time to her, and she humored us much like our wives humor us when talking about this, and Naomi had to sit there and listen to you talking about it.

Yeah. We started – I don't know how it came up or did i just like you just blurted it out because we were there was like a lull in conversation you thought it would be funny to tell one of the chief advisors yeah i think it was i think it was exactly that like i was talking we were we were talking it was paulette anna scoff and she's so cool and she's great and and uh and smart and and funny and stuff we were talking to her and I just thought it would be funny just to bring up you talking you two to me to one of the most important people in Washington DC inside the White House inside the White House

so I brought it up and she thought it, I think she thought we were kidding, and then we actually did talk about it for like 10 minutes. Yeah, it was so embarrassing to talk, because it was embarrassing. And then she kind of tried to humor us and said, well, you should do an episode from the White House. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we said, oh, yeah, that would be great, thinking you're just playing along at this point.

Yes. And then at one point you admitted, the only reason, I can't believe we're still talking about this. The only reason I brought it up is because I thought it would be funny to bring it up in the White House. Yeah. So meanwhile – Wait. Kulop still wasn't there? Kulop's not there.

Okay. Meanwhile, every single person is being pulled to this line. Right. And we're in the center of the room. There's like three people with sheets of paper going, yeah, you, come here. They're calling out names and they're saying, you know, like, Neo Long. And then Neo goes, oh, that's me. And they put the person in whatever part of the line they belonged in.

We very quickly find out that we are in the center of the room and we are alone. Yes. We're the only ones who have not been placed in this line. It's just you, Naomi, and I. Yeah. And talking to Paulette. Talking to Paulette. But she moves away at a certain point.

Right. And then they come up to you and they have your name on this paper. And they say, Adam? And then they ask your relation to Naomi. And they write that down. They ask her name. They write down the relation because when they announce you, they want to say, Adam Scott and his wife, Naomi. Yes.

And then they go, okay. And they write that down. They start to walk away. And you go, hey, are we supposed to get in line or something? Yeah. And they go, I don't know. And they just kind of move on. Right.

And you're like. Well, I think that's when someone said, oh, the line doesn't matter. We were just telling people this. We just needed people to stand somewhere. Okay. I didn't hear that i just thought it was like they were confused the line is meaningless we just when the obamas get here we need everyone to just be in some sort of order to start the process so then they then they come up to me and they go what is your name yeah i said scott ackerman and they look, what is your name? Yeah. I said, Scott Aukerman. And they look through the only remaining sheets of paper they have left and I'm not on there.

Oh, really? Yeah. Because I was standing right there. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah. They go, what is your name? I said, Scott Aukerman. They look on their things. I'm not on there.

They go, who are you with? And I said, Funny or Die? And I immediately think, oh, no. I'm done. Mike Farah from Funny or Die snuck me in here to be nice to me. Right. But I'm not on any list. Right.

I'm being kicked out as well. Right. And they say, who are you with? I said, Funny or Die? They go, no, who are you with? And I said, well, I'm with my wife, but she's not in the room. And I thought what they were saying was, who are you with? Like, you must be the plus one someone

more important right and i said oh my wife but she's not in the room my wife they they walk and they go oh okay well we'll figure this out and they walk away right and i'm like i'm being kicked out here we go right then all of a sudden brad brad jenkins another great guy from the white house comes up to me and goes hey hey, where's Kulop? We need to get her in here. Yeah. I don't know what happened. I remember that.

But what they were asking me is, like, where's your plus one? Right. And I'm like, she's somewhere in the party. Yeah. He's like, I'll go look for her. Can you text her? I text her. She's not answering the texts.

I'm presuming her phone is in her purse or something and she's off deep in the party and she's going to miss this and then get her texts later and be like I'm calling her I'm hoping the vibrations will make her purse rattle or something like rattle and hum like you too

finally after several texts and three phone calls she picks up and I'm like get to the JFK portrait get to the JFK portrait and Get to the JFK portrait. And she's like, okay. And they bring her in, and we're at the back of the line. Yes. But success. She had been in the bathroom upset.

Of course. I mean, that sucks. Yeah. But nicely, I don't know what happened, what changed, but they must have been like, oh, why would – Like, who cares? Bring her in here. Get her in here. So we are then in line.

We're in the back of the line. You guys are the very last. We are second to last, I believe. And then all of a sudden, the president and the first lady walk into the room. Yep. Did you see them walk in the room or was your back to them? My back was to them and then there i i get a sense the minute i walked the minute they walked in and and the president was like hello everybody yeah and um i was like cool up turn around and she

didn't see them but i don't know if you saw this but michelle obama the first lady like slipped oh yeah i did see that and And almost ate shit on the ground. That happened to Naomi earlier. There's some like really slippery floors. But it's really weird to be in a room and they walk in. They walked in and just like immediately turned left and walked into some other room. But when they walk in to a room like that, it's just bizarre because there's no pomp and circumstance. They just walk in and walk.

Yeah. And all of a sudden, the kind of tenor in the room changes. But at the same time, it's bizarre because they're just people walking into a room. They're just people walking. And what I was struck by was she slipped, and you would assume like the Secret Service or whatever would just like, poof, like catch her or something. But I think you don't want like someone on you the entire time.

You know, like it very easily could have been like slip and then fall, you know, on the old patootie. Yeah. And, you know, what can Secret Service do at that point? She recovered quite nicely. Quite nicely. A plus recovery. So Kulop was – because when they, not to kind of dwell on this, but when they came to us in the middle of that room, I thought we were all, it was going to be like, guys, we're so sorry. There's just too many.

There's too many people. Kind of the headline of the day was this has grown into a much bigger thing than we anticipated. Yes, there's way more people than we thought there would be. So, I thought it was me, you, Naomi. It was going to be like, we're sorry. There's just too many people. He's cutting it off. Like, you ever go to a book signing and they're like, the person has left?

No. But I can imagine. No, yes, I have. You ever want to write a book? By the way, a memoir. What kind of book would you write? A memoir? I would write, it would be called show business stories how it happened um so we're in line we're in line and we're just about we're like you've heard of

20 feet from stardom yeah the movie yeah the movie not only have i heard of it i've seen it yeah this is not a movie this was real life real life my point and we're very close to the president yes which is stardom in this case yes well oh no i wasn't saying it because of that i'm not saying This is not a movie. This was real life. Real life. That's my point. And we're very close to the president. Yes. Which is stardom in this case. Yes. Oh, no, I wasn't saying it because of that. I'm not saying that we were 20 feet from stardom, aka the – I'm just saying this was real life, not a movie, like 20 feet from stardom. Oh, right.

Like you could use any movie in that analogy. Exactly. You ever heard of Back to the Future? Right. This is not like that. This was real life. Not only have I heard of Back to the Future, I've seen it. By the way, this is an episode of I Love Films.

We should really open that up. Absolutely. Hey, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. Welcome to I Love Films. And we're talking about 20 Feet from Stardom and Back to the Future 2 today. Terrific movies. Both have a two in 20 feet from stardom and back to the future 2 yeah they both have a two in them that's where

the similarities begin and end no they both also have deloreans that have been turned into time machines that's a good point just kidding that's been I Love Films. Thank you. Good ep. Very good ep. So in any case, the line is moving. We're just about to get up there. How long would you say the entire wait in line was once the president walked into the room? It was not that long. How long would you say he and the first lady were spending with each?

It feels like an eternity in a way when you're there. But it must have been like two minutes per person. Yeah, probably. And there's probably 50 people, couples. All I could think when we got in there with them was, I am taking up far too much of their time. Right. And so I was probably rushing it along maybe even more than I had to.

Did you plan out what you were going to say, by the way? No. Neither did I. See, what I planned on, I was like, oh, I'm going to have to remind him who I am. So I had my whole thing of like, hi, I'm the director of Between Two Ferns. Yeah, yeah. Because I could see that there was no system you know how if you ever watch a period movie have you ever seen a movie where girls are on their periods a lot of them yeah yeah those are good movies i love it's one of my favorite genres i loved back in the old days when like

blockbuster video like a video store i I loved the Girls on Period section. That's a good section. But I don't know if you've ever seen one of those reception lines where there's someone whispering in someone's ear of like, this is the person. I looked for that and said, oh, there's no person doing that. Isn't that weird? We've both met the president before. And I've been surprised at the lack of that kind of thing. Yeah.

And I assumed, okay, this time I'm going to have to just remind him who I am. Of course. Now I get there. No one whispers in his ear who I am. But they announce your name, right? They announce my name, but who knows my name, right? He immediately was like, hey, my Between Two Ferns guy. So cool.

And he's like, Michelle, Michelle, this is my Between Two Ferns guy. And she's like, oh, that was so great. And then we talked about it. So I immediately, my prepared remarks, which are not really remarks. It's more of a reminder of who I am, go out the window. Michelle goes in for a hug. Oh, first of all, the president asks where Kulop's name is from. Right.

She talks about, and she just blurts out, I'm Lao. Is that a nationality? Yeah, she's from Laos. Wait, should we talk about the rest of the trip in line before we get to this? Yeah, we'll go back to it. Okay, okay. So, I mean, well. So, what do you say if all of that is out the window? What do you say?

I am just kind of like, thank you so much for doing it. You were great. And Michelle's like, he really was. And then the president then tells me a story about him telling his children about what he had just done. The same story told, you know, a few minutes later when he was up on the podium. But the reason that he told that was Michelle said, tell that story you just told. To me. Oh, really?

Yeah. He wasn't planning on telling that to the crowd, but she goes, tell that story you just told. So he told this story to the crowd that he had just told to me about how he got home that night. Did she say that when they were up at the podium? Yeah. It was totally unplanned. It was an audible.com. And so he tells me the story of how he got home that night and he was telling his children about what he had done that day and they were unimpressed by this world leader or that world leader or that treaty he'd signed. And then he said, oh, I also did something called two ferns, I think. went crazy right and said oh my god you were on an episode between two ferns that's so

cool and then wanted to know everything about it right so he told me that story is very nice and then we took pictures and then um then hugged like michelle was there with the hugs yeah it was very nice yeah um and then and then they kind of usher you off in this way of like when you're – I don't know if you noticed. When you're going on, they tell you to keep moving as you are approaching because they want the people who just are wrapping up to know that there's people approaching and to get off. Yeah. There's a very sweet young lady who's there in a military – she was three years old. She was in a military uniform, right? Navy, I believe.

Yeah, she probably is in the armed forces. She's a Marine, I think. And she brings you and she says, have you ever done this before? And both Naomi and I were like, no. Why did you get that question? At this, I don't know. But at this point, you are inside the room

and you're probably 10 feet from the president and first lady and they're just rapping. You've heard of 20 feet from stardom, right? from stardom well this is not a movie was my point oh no this is real life this is real life not a movie and they're just wrapping it up with the two people before you and so you're just standing there and she's like just don't worry i'll tell you exactly where to go you by the way the main person has to go first and the other person has to trail. Right. She says, and just as they're wrapping up, she's like, okay, walk forward, walk forward, keep moving, keep moving. And she announces, right?

And she goes, now stop. And she goes, now I'm going to announce you. And then you go in and say hello. And she goes, Adam Scott and Naomi Scott. And we walk over. Oh, they didn't say and his wife Naomi? Oh, and his wife Naomi. Oh, okay.

Because they ask about your relationship and i was stumped by that i was like uh you know we're together we're right we're you know i was just like nervous that like cool i've made it and i was like you were together you know like i'm her husband all right you didn't want to fuck anything up at that point um yeah so the whole thing was i think they just know how nervous you are and so they know that they have to just basically direct you step by step through the whole process. Now, as actors, we're used to direction. Absolutely.

So this was just second nature to us. Second nature. But for people like Kulop and Naomi, well, Kulop's an actress as well. But for Naomi, she's a producer. Naomi, she does not know. And a mother. Yes. So I had to kind of—

And a penis doctor. I had to literally hold her hand through the whole thing because we are married. That's true. That is a good point. But – So did you – what was your conversation like? Can you talk about that? They were super nice and they just – they thanked me for doing the –

Thanks for those 250K hits. They were super nice, but I think – I told the first lady she was great because she was on the season finale of Parks. Of Parks. And I said she was great on it, and she was like, oh, yeah, that turned out well. And the president said, oh, wait, what was she great on? What are you talking about? Willis, he said, Parks and Rec. And yeah, it went by really quickly.

It was very nice. But the funny thing that happened was we walk out and we're in that next room, and that's where Brad was. And I remember we walked in there, and we were so kind of charged up and psyched and you and Kulop had started your thing with them. And I was just like, thanks, Brad. That was amazing. Thank you so much. Can we wait here for our friends?

Like we had this little like quick conversation, like that was great. Thank you so much. And they're like, yeah, well, no, thanks for coming and everything. And I was like, is it cool if we wait here for our friends and they're like no actually you need to make your way out of the room like it's a military literally a military operation yeah i mean they have this procedure and yeah so well that was nice that you wanted to wait for us but then we got out

and our faces were just like yeah everyone's just looking at each other like i can't believe that and the guys in the white house were like okay who said the dumbest thing to the president? Yeah, that's right. They're used to, you know, like they work with him every day. I mean, maybe not every day because he's off traveling the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're used to it. So anyway, getting back to us in line.

Right. Right as we're about to approach the president, Adam and I thought it would be a good idea to record a little memento. That's right. For this podcast. So why don't I play that here? And this is us in the East Wing of the White House on you talking you to me. Hey, you're listening to you talking you too to me, live from the White House. This is Scott. And this is Scott. We're about to meet the president.

We are in the East Wing, in line to go. We're each with our wives, and we're about to go talk and take a picture with the president. Not together, probably. Well, I hope not. President. Not together, probably. Well, I hope not. But we're just trying to decide how we'll each bring up the podcast and ask President Obama when he will be a guest on the podcast. All we need is, you know, two hours, three hours of his time. Do you think he

has T-shirts? I don't know, but if he doesn't have T-shirts, I don't think we should have them on. Okay. It's a deal. All right. All right. He has to come to us. We can't come to him.

No, we live in L.A. That's the most important place in the world. But I think we'll definitely bring this up with him, right? Definitely. We have a deal. All right. You're listening to you talking, you too, to me, live from the White House. This is Scott.

And this is Scott. We were so, like, charged up. Because this was literally four minutes before we went in. Yeah. I mean, we were really close at that point. And we just thought it was— Like, we were kind of whispering because we were, like, within earshot of the president of the United States. I don't know that we were supposed to be doing that either.

Like, recording. within earshot of the president of the united states we were supposed to be doing that either like recording i will say the first time that we the time we made the actual video we were not allowed to take pictures anywhere this next this what this video the between two ferns video oh the one that got 22 million hits right um we were not allowed to take pictures anywhere they they actually kept like if anyone brought their phones out they were and I took when I was there

like a month and a half ago I went into like the Roosevelt room and outside there was a place where you had to put your cell phone so I was surprised

they must have made a decision like let all these people take pictures because everyone had cell phones there we're taking pictures everywhere and in fact

when we took a tour earlier they were like yeah take pictures wherever you want just don't take video is all they were saying. Oh. But in any case, so I'm sitting there going, I don't know if we're allowed to be doing this. Right.

Which made it all the more exciting. And then that just reminded me that afterwards when we were all like out at the reception, all kind of sharing our stories of what happened in there. You said, the first thing you said to me was, I told him about the podcast. And you said, you did? I totally believed you. I said, no, I didn't. Of course I didn't. We did take some pictures, actually, from the – Red Room, right?

Is that what they call it, even though it's yellow? No, it's right in front of the podium. Oh, at the podium, right? Where he does all of his speeches. We're going to put these on the show page on Earwolf.com on this particular episode. You and I took a bunch of pictures together in front of the presidential podium uh of us just standing there and also making you two symbols yes at the camera and there were people standing because it was pretty crowded there were people standing around us saying why are you doing this what are you doing

and then we explained to them we have a youtube podcast and they went you do and i said and then we explained where it was where they could find it and what it was about and they're like okay i think you went from like hey cool actor adam scott to like who's that dweeb what is he doing by the way i did an interview today for comedy bang bang coming out third season on thursday and the enough with the plugs bro the interviewer was there at the white house and said, oh, you were there. I wanted to introduce myself because I knew we were interviewing you today, but I didn't want to interrupt you. And she goes, you and Adam Scott were taking selfies in front of the podium and talking about your podcast. Are you serious?

Yes. Oh, my God. It's deeply embarrassing, isn't it? Anyway, that is our White House experience. We had a good time. It was great seeing Naomi. Yeah, it was great hanging out with Kulop. And it was good to – it was also when I accepted the invitation to go, I kind of didn't think anyone I knew would be there.

So it was nice that you were there. Yeah. nice that you were yeah i literally like we we arrived in washington and i think um kulop must have been following naomi on instagram because she goes is adam and naomi in washington because i think like she must have uh instagrammed a picture right of you guys getting on the plane right right landing or something that's right you texted me i was like are you in washington right we hadn't talked about this at all i don't know why i didn't assume that you would be there i mean maybe i looked at you know how many hits your video got versus how many hits mine such a dick yours is very funny though yeah um uh you know i i was glad to like that night we were like, God, it's so great that Scott and Kulop were – like because we were – the nerves were kind of – we all had kind of jangly nerves just because of where we were.

Jangly like the guitars in a song. Like an REM song. Yeah, exactly. Like a bird – no, like a bird song. Okay, sure. We had jangly guitar nerves. Roger McGuinn nerves. But it was fun to like the four of us kind of hung out.

Yeah. And calm each other down in a way or, like, at least say to each other, hey, are you nervous? It was great that both of us could just, like, just grab each other's dicks and just make each other feel better. We pulled each other's puds right there in the White House, didn't we? Now, wait. Who else was there? There was Billy Eichner, but who else was there? Well, from Funny or Die, there was, you Anna and Rachel and – oh, we also had – Aisha Tyler was there.

Aisha was there. We took some pictures with her. By the way, I have a question. How do you think we're getting our pictures that they took of us? Oh, they send them to your home address. Do they? You just need to make sure they have your address. Uh-oh.

Yeah. Because the one I gave them is the place we just moved out of. Did they send the invitation to your home? No, they emailed me the invitation. Yeah, me too.

Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, let Brad know what your home address is. Okay. But do you think they must edit these pictures, right?

Because you can't send out a picture of the president with his eyes closed. I feel like I closed my eyes in one of the pictures. Well, I'm sure they took several pictures of the interaction. Don't you think? I kept thinking, am I making the right face? I have no idea what face I made.

I don't know. I was very, very much – there's something about having someone super close to you there to share the experience that makes the whole thing even more surreal, right? Right, yeah. Like just shooting between two ferns I'm sure was an incredible experience spending all this time with the president, whatever. formality of walking out into the middle of a room with them it the whole thing was so bizarre and wonderful but having her there made the whole elevates the whole thing right well i i may not have gone back if if i couldn't have brought her it was a nice invitation but i was i was at the tail end of like a press week in new york and i was kind of like uh but the fact that they let her come was like oh yeah we have to do this. Yes.

Anyway, it was – and the first time we did the video, we didn't have any of that kind of formality. It was just like we set up in a room and he came into the room and then he did it and left. So it was like all of the pomp and circumstance and all that was interesting to go through. Yeah. And then the speech they gave later where he told the story that he had told you before, that was an incredible moment. Great speech. Each of them gave some quick remarks just to thank everybody and kind of celebrate the Affordable Care Act, which is a huge – it really is a big deal. Yeah, that actually like with all the opposition got through. Yeah.

So, you know, it was a good time. Yeah. And we, I'm glad that we recorded a little bit of the podcast there in the White House. By the way, live from the White House. It's not live at all. No, it's not. I mean, we were alive. And we still are.

We still, as far as I know. Well, hopefully by Wednesday when this posts, we'll both still be alive. We'll both be dead. Oh. Wait, why do you want us to be dead? I want to be in a suicide pact, bro. All right. I want people to find us.

No, done. Okay. I'm in. Yeah, absolutely. So all of the details, you're on board? Yeah. Whatever I come up with? Yeah.

Whatever you want. I want to be naked. I want to have your hand on my dick, my hand on your dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fine. Okay. Yeah. Great.

After we finish recording tonight? Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. Cody, you in? Yeah. Okay, so wait, what are you in for? Pulling the trigger or doing it with us?

I have an idea. Okay. What do you got? Let's not have the suicide. Forget the suicide pact. Okay. Let's just murder Cody. Yes.

Yes. So his girlfriend, this this what was her name again natalia fliorente italia are you guys still together yeah today's our year anniversary your year what your anniversary who does that i heard my time sounds strangely is that someone you know anniversary uh no today No, today is our anniversary. What's her name again? What's this made-up woman's name? Alyssa Caliendo.

Caliendo. That's not a real name. Caliente. It's simply not a real name. Alyssa Caliente. All right. You are listening to You Talking U2 to Me. We've been talking about how to dismantle an atomic bomb.

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Hey. Welcome back. Welcome back. Are you talking YouTube to me? You talking YouTube to me. Adam, describe what you did in that last break. I took a little dip off the tiles. The female listeners and some male listeners, hey.

Yeah. Hey, absolutely. You know, may be interested to know you touched your penis during that last break. Touch my penis. Isn't it interesting that one, you're not allowed to touch your penis like in public. Right. You know what I mean? But there are these rooms, and they have to be in, like, every building, where you can touch your penis to your heart's content. Dude, it's so trippy.

If you really think about it, like, there are these rooms. Just rooms where you can, like, take your penis out, hold it in your hand. You take out your dick in a room with complete strangers. With a bunch of other people! And then, like... And they're forced to be in the same room with you holding your dick! Like, anyone could just turn to the other person and start talking to them. Uh-huh.

You could even, like, look at other... Like, what if someone just turned around and they're like, hey, everyone, look at this. Like, you could do that. You could be like, hey, everyone, look at this. Like you could do that. You could be like, hey, everyone, look at each other's dick. Turn to the left. Turn to the right. One of these dicks will not be here by the end of –

I don't know. Maybe I'm a little askew. I'm just kind of – Your view is askew. Yeah. My view is just – I just look at the world a little differently. But sometimes I just think about stuff like that and I just trip out. It's so easy to trip out, isn't it?

Oh, God. Just like everyday stuff. Don't get me started. Okay, I will not get you started. I should start you at one point. I should get you started, but not today. Not right now. It's not the time nor the place.

No, because this is you talking you too to me and we are here to talk continue our talk about the record how to dismantle an atomic bomb which um let's get into it yeah far too much time talking about uh barack hussein obamacare um and let's get into this record um now it was you have a controversial opinion you've been wanting to talk about it. I know, and you have not been letting me. This is episode 10, I believe, and you keep talking about this record. And you keep telling me to shut the fuck up. Now, this is a, there's a pretty lengthy break between albums.

I mean, fall of 2000, All That You Can't Leave Behind comes out. To fall of 2004? Yeah. of 2000 all that you can't leave behind comes out to fall of 2004 yeah it's like now you two is or hue 2 sorry is on there too is on their cycle of like hey let's not put out records for four five six years although all that you can't leave behind was a huge triumph so it they they toured it for a long time like they were touring through 2002 yeah so they were like culturally alive through all of that like very literally alive oh yeah they're four living human beings do you think they'll ever do a suicide pact the four of them maybe maybe that's why they're taking so long on

this album the album's done they're just working on perfecting the suicide pact they're like getting all of the like fine print in Absolutely. Because legalities and such. Sure, of course. Now, this four years since All That You Can't Leave Behind, it'll be five years till the next record, No Line on the Horizon, and then five years since that one. Well, four and a half because No Line on the Horizon came out in May or something. March.

March of 2009. I remember being in a cabin, in Tall John's cabin, listening – February. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I remember there being snow everywhere. That's why – End of February, huh?

End of February, yeah. February 27. It's such a weird time to release a record. It really is, isn't it? Yeah. Because there's usually two cycles of releasing a record. There is – there's a week in May and then there's a week in November usually that like all of the big releases come out. Then I remember Jay-Z started – like he put the blueprint out on –

no, he put the first blueprint print out on 9-11 I believe. But he put out a record on Christmas Day I remember. I was like what a weird day to put a – Well, a lot of – of they say you see that a lot now they see say a strategy to that and putting one out in early january getting gift certificates or returning what they got for christmas and getting what they actually want look we'll never figure this out never but um yeah it's a weird time to put out a record and i remember that year being at sundance and what film were you there for I remember that year being at Sundance.

What film were you there for? It was The Vicious Kind at Sundance. Are you sure it's not The Viscous Kind? Oh, sorry, The Viscous Kind. And I remember Get On Your Boots came out while I was at Sundance, and I remember downloading it and being so excited the new U2 single was out and being like, huh, is this good? I can't end playing it for my friend Lee, the guy that directed The Viscous Kind.

Lee Majors? Yep. And being like, Mr. Majors, what do you think of this? What do you think of this song? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And he very slowly ran towards me. And I remember Lee just being like, yeah, huh. Yeah, that's pretty good because he's nice and he knows that I love you too.

But I think it was the first sign that maybe that wasn't a great choice for a single. We'll talk about that on one of our next episodes. But we have to talk about how to dismantle an atomic bomb. Now, you had, you you said an opinion yes on this record that was going to be very well did you say controversial or surprising i don't i said it would be a bombshell an atomic bomb and this album is called how to dismantle an atomic bomb and i believe a listener alerted to me the to a fact that you talked about on comedy bang bang episode 80 which is kind of episode zero of this

podcast because we talked about you two a lot on that yeah and they they alerted me to something that you mentioned on that show and it's probably what you're about to say right oh okay but go ahead i for me and this is through years of listening and um really considering it and going song by song i think how to dismantle an atomic bomb is my favorite u2 album thank you is that what i said on comedy you did you said it's your favorite u2 record and what was your reaction then really with seth and amy did you really like react because i remember you i don't remember what my reaction was then it it's surprising to me it is certainly not mine yeah what do you think of it though generally let's talk about it generally i'm talking generally

too because i have some problems with it but okay i But I, for whatever reason, I admit there's some flawed elements to the album for whatever reason. And I think one of the reasons is, and I remember the New York Times

review of it when it came out was... The paper of record. Yeah. It's a, for those who don't know, it's a,

it's a newspaper that is primarily written in New York City. City, yeah. Which is in the state of New York. Yeah, in the state. Which, by the way, you can see me in the New York Times magazine

either this Sunday or the Sunday after that. Who picks the shit? Is that really? Yes. That's great. Who cares? But in that review, I remember- You read something in this this fucking paper i remember the review was like is it possible for a band that's been around for 25 years or however long to however long they were

at that point to make their best album like this isn't because they really loved it and were surprised at how consistent and good it was and how – because it kind of picks an aesthetic and sticks with it through most of the album. It does. It is consistent, yes. And I think also at the very same point in their career, the Rolling Stones made Steel Wheels, which I do not think is a good album. No. You know what is a good album? Their last album.

A Bigger Bang? Seriously? That's a great album. Really? Yeah. It's a great album. Really? Yeah. It's really good. I didn't even get it. You know, but that reminded me of something Owen Burke did to me once. You know Owen Burke?

Yes. He's a really funny guy. He played Level Knievel on the Comedy Bang Bang TV show. He also was on Parks and Recreation. He's a great, really funny guy, UCB guy. Now he works for Gary Sanchez. And I saw – I was bowling with him one Christmas and we were just talking about stuff. He's like, you seen any movies lately? I was like,

oh, I saw this. I saw this. He goes, oh, I saw it's complicated. He goes, it's like legitimately like a good movie. Right. I was like, really? He goes, yeah, it's like really funny and touching. And it's just, it's like like legitimately just it's surprising to me but i just loved it i thought it was such a good movie i'm like oh wow i had no plans on seeing it but then i like went out of my way and went to a theater and saw it and it's fucking terrible and i was like i saw him later i was like oh and why did you really like it's complicated he goes no i'm fucking with you that's hilarious it's like he said it so seriously and then he got you to go see it. Then he got me to pay for it and take my time and go see it.

I've seen that movie probably seven times. Why? It's on all the time and I find it just incredibly watchable. Well, it's got – it's like a – I think it is a legitimately good movie. I think if a movie- Wait, this is I Love Films. Okay.

Yeah, I think absolutely. Okay, welcome to I Love Films. Hey, this is Scott. This is Scott. And you were saying It's Complicated is a legitimately good movie? Yeah. I think if a movie, if you find yourself, you know, if you're flipping the channels and you land on a movie and you just sit there and watch at least 45 minutes of it, that's your threshold for a good movie. That's the only threshold there is.

You're the host of I Love Films. Yeah. And this is a film and I love it. This has been I Love Films. Okay, so how to dismantle an atomic bomb. I'm not done talking about it. It's complicated. Well, do we need to open the I Love Films thing back up?

No, I will say this. I need to shake a little dew off the daisy in a minute. Oh, really? So let's talk about it generally, but we're going to little dew off the daisy in a minute. Oh, really? So let's talk about it generally, but we're going to have to take another break here for a second. Give me a general impression. My general impression, I just listened to it again. Yeah. The other day.

It is one of the only U2 albums that I just generally don't have any opinion on and I could take or leave. Even at the time of release? Even at the time of release. I will go into specific song by song, but I listened to it a couple of times, just kind of shrugged. Really? Said, eh, not really. I'm not really into it.

There are not a ton of singles on it, so I didn't really pay attention to it all that much. And it just kind of came and went. And I was like, eh, not that good. I listened to it again the other day. I don't think the songs are there. Really? I don't think they're that great of songs. I think you're crazy.

Like insane? Insane. Like I think, I'm going to have to call the old mental hospital and have you throw a straitjacket on you. And put me in a rubber room, pal. So we will go through it when we come back, kind of song by song, and talk about it. But I will say that there is a quote by Bono who says that something to the effect of he realizes the album doesn't hang together. That he goes, every song is good, technically, but it doesn't work as an album.

I remember that. It was when they were promoting No Line on the Horizon. He was saying, it's frustrating because I know the songs are all there, but for whatever reason, it's not a cohesive piece. I'll say that the previous record, we talked about it a little bit, All That You Can't Leave Behind, I feel is where U2 stopped trying to make works of art. And now these two albums, All That You Can't Leave Behind and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, are just songs that they have thrown together.

I totally disagree. they have thrown together. I totally disagree, and I think that this album is their most fully realized, certainly since Octoon Baby. Wait, what was that? Octoon! Baba!

But I think it's a masterpiece. I think it's a masterpiece. Whoa! Because it's a masterpiece. Whoa. Because it is a guitar. Like I said on the previous episode, I think it's like they're in utero. Everyone said all you can't leave behind is their Back to Basics album. I think this really is.

It's more of a rock record. You think it's a masterpiece. I think it's a masturbate. I don't know. I mean, there are a couple songs that I'm not totally into but we'll talk about it

we'll talk about it this and October to me are the two that I'm just kind of like shrugging wow that's crazy but let's take another break because I need to go into a certain room

and hold my penis and I'm just going to take it out I'm going to be honest with you isn't that trippy that you can just like the air molecules are going to touch it just like go into a room

just a room I'm going to do it right Just like go into a room. Just a room. I'm going to do it right now. Hey, you're invited? Cody? You want to come in? Well, I just went and did that, so I don't need to, but just it's... It's crazy. All right, we'll talk about it when we come back.

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You are listening to you talking you to to me. We are talking about how to dismantle an atomic bomb. I'm here with Scott. And I got to say, it was thrilling what I just did. Oh, yeah. How was it? I went into the women's bathroom. What?

Because there's no, we're doing this so late. Yeah. And Cody was like, hey, man. He like gave me a little wink. Bro, bro, bro. he pushed a key across the table he was like go take a pee in the ladies

yeah and he knew how thrilling it was and man it was a thrill do you know there's no urinals in there

why not I don't know I couldn't figure it out so like if you're a woman and you have to go pee instead of taking a shit. And there's no urinal.

I guess women must just take a shit every time they pee. That must be it. Did we just, like, discover some hidden truth here tonight? I think that we might be doctors or something. I think that's what this is. I think we're all doctors. Welcome back to the show. We're talking about How to Dismantle Anatomic Bomb.

Came out 22 November 2004. So you're like ambivalent about this album. I am. I listen to – we'll go through song by song and I'll give you my opinion on them. But there are a few that I like. Yeah. Very few that I like. Remember. Very few that I like. Remember when we were talking about

All That You Can't Leave Behind last week? Yes. Last episode, but for us it was several weeks ago. You know how those first, is it six songs? Yeah.

Or just like masterpieces. They're transcendent. That's what I expect from a U2 record. Yeah. Because I expect transcendent music. Yeah.

There are maybe two songs that i think are pardon the pun but elevation like one of their like their song like their song yeah no i get it and then the rest are kind of like good songs but not nothing that i would say is really you know nothing to call home about yeah you wouldn't pick up the phone and and call your mom hello it's your cousin marvin barry uh marvin barry that's you're not my my cousin you sound like my son i want to hear the other side of that phone call all these years later back to the future 25 years ago or whatever i want to hear what chuck barry that phone call. All these years later, back to the future, 25 years ago or whatever, I want to hear what Chuck Berry was saying to Marvin Berry.

Yeah, well, do you know how that phone call went? Maybe I could do the other side of it. Yeah. Okay. Ring, ring. Hello? Hey, Chuck, it's your cousin. Who the fuck is this?

It's your cousin, Marvin. Who the fuck? It's your cousin, Marvin Berry. You know that new sound you've been looking for? What the fuck are you talking about? Listen to this. Shut the fuck up. Johnny Big Good.

That's a bird that I like. Johnny Big Good. Johnny Big Good. Yeah, I don't think a lot of the songs are much to call home about. Even though it won at the Grammys Al of the year, record of the year, song of the year. And you can suck my dick. Really? Yeah, you can suck my dick.

Yeah, I also hold the Grammys to be an indicator of anything. But they did win like nine grammys for this album which i did not know yeah i didn't they won they won all the grammys they were nominated for crazy right and the major categories but look this is right after like steely dan won you know what i mean fuck the grammys uh Let's talk about some of – you know how Bono sort of comes up with – this is right after Steely Dan. Right. You know, who cares what the Grammys do. Okay.

No, what I was saying. You know how every time an album comes out, Bono sort of has his patter about what – his way of describing the record? Yeah. You know what I mean mean this is what he says which you have to do when you're selling anything sure so this is how he contextualizes it to america he says we've been a band for 25 years and this is our first rock record right which i mean i guess it's the first record that they use distortion-y kind of guitar, like fuzz guitars consistently. They're trying to find a narrative for the album, sell it in a way that people can kind of latch onto and say, oh, it's a rock and roll, whatever it is.

They're just trying to sell the album. Right. So the first taste we have of this record is a very divisive song. It's a song, we heard a little bit of it earlier, but let's hear a little bit of it now.

It's called Vertigo. Yeah. Now, how can... I really do not understand how anyone could listen to this song and think it's anything but a great pop song. High-quality rock and roll. High-quality rock and roll music. Here's the issue that I think people have with it,

and I do not share this issue. The couture-say thing. the couture safe the couture safe thing but what i don't understand what what the big problem is with that i i don't know i think they just view it as okay so you agree that i agree i like yeah i thought it was when i heard it i was like oh that's funny yeah he's saying one two three fourteen you know like yeah it's like a nonsensical yeah it's like when you used to watch joni loves chachi um you know remember when the drummer in joni loves chachi would be like you know how a drummer normally goes one two three four yeah he'd go one two three four it's just funny right it's funny it's like joni loves chachi it's funny right you? And it's a, obviously, it's a guitar-driven, very spare rock and roll song. And he's saying, one, two, three, 14. Let's, I don't know what they're, I don't even know what he means by it.

Let's shoot for the, let's go to 14, like turn it to 11 or whatever. He, I think just, you know, he bugs people. Right. turn it to 11 or whatever he i think just you know he bugs people right so like if he does anything kind of cheeky or whatever they go bono's at it again right and it it was a giant hit so it was everywhere major and here's the other issue is i think it was on those ipod commercials right and this became sort of a cycle of you two trying to figure out how to sell their album in ways, because they couldn't be trusted to be on the radio anymore. Right.

Because who knows if K-Rock or whatever is going to play that. Even though they're coming off a huge record where they had huge hit singles. It's four years later. It's four years later. They take a million years to make these albums. So they don't know, oh no, do any of these songs fit on current playlists anymore? Yeah, and between 2000 and 2004, there's Napster, which completely dismantles the music business.

It's harder and harder to get people to buy CDs. I mean, it's impossible now, but in 2004, it was difficult. It was difficult, but you had to come up with different ways to get people to listen to these things. So doing an iPod commercial, and it wasn't just the commercial, by the way, but U2 became and the song became the face of selling iPods and the new black iPods and the U2 iPods. Yeah, you could buy an iPod with the U2 catalog already. Loaded onto it, yeah.

Which really annoyed some people people and people thought it was selling out and and i i remember bono had a soundbite of course about the ipod which was it was the most significant um invention invention in music since the guitar or something right which i thought was a clever way to sell the ipod but maybe a little hyperbolic a little bit slightly um but you can choose to be annoyed by something like that but it's not like they're singing for pepsi they're singing for an ipod that everyone has yeah and i have an ipod so i actually thought it was like an okay commercial that was cool yeah me too um and as a fan of too and not a fan of people who you know sell their music to corporations or whatever i was completely fine with it i was okay with it and i'm still okay with that song i think

it's a great song me too so i first heard that i was like you know what it's a little bit different than beautiful day which was the first opening salvo off of the previous record, All That You Can't Leave Behind. But it's a little bit different, but it was rocking. Yeah. And it was high quality rock and roll music. Just so catchy and good. But it bugs people simply for the uno, dos, tres, quatorze.

Yeah. And the fact that the melody is a little lifted from, what is it? He's So Fine? Hello, it? He's So Fine? Hello, hello. He's So Fine. Is it He's So Fine?

I'm not hearing it. Hello, hello. I'm called Vertigo. No, it's. Can you look up something that says, like, YouTube Vertigo sounds like? Yeah. But also the hola, maybe that bugs people. I don't know.

Like white Irish guys doing Spanish, like using Spanish phrases. Maybe that bugs people. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But people, it really, it really. It got under some people's skin, even though it became a massive hit akin to Beautiful Day. And you know what I think is that it made these guys go, you know what?

We got to make our opening singles like big and dumb. Yeah. Yeah. You know, which guess what? In five years, you're in for a big surprise when you do that. But, okay, so I like Vertigo, and I think that it is one of the songs that is actually transcendent. I don't mean transcendent in the sense of, like, oh, wow,

it's soaring or it's uplifting or anything. I just mean that it, like, transcends. It's a really good song that is better than just, like, a song. What's the song I just said it? He's So Fine? Oh, my God. Use the fucking search function on your phone. song that is better than just like a song what's the song i just said it uh he's so fine oh my god use the fucking search function on your phone by the way fans of this show all i get are tweets about like teach adam how to use his phone oh no that was my sweet lord that did he's so my sweet lord hallelujah he's so fine we'll never figure this out adam i want you to stop

okay trying all right okay so then after that's a great opening track and a great opening single i like it when bands put their first single as the opening song me Me too. You know what I mean? Me too. You too. I don't get it. Okay. Then we have a song called Miracle Drug. Let's hear a little bit of that. So far, so good. I love this song. A little like With or Without You.

I like it. So far, so good good i like it is there a point when yeah it's coming up here we go Okay, hold on. Freedom has a scent like the top of a newborn baby's head. Scott, have you ever smelled the top of a newborn baby's head? I've smelled the tip of your dick. No, but- That's about it.

Have you smelled the top of a newborn baby's head? Meaning a baby that's just come out of a pussy? of a newborn baby's head. Meaning a baby that's just come out of a pussy? A baby that has been born within three weeks. Oh, wait, that's a newborn? Yeah, that's a newborn baby. I don't think, I think a newborn baby is like something that just came out,

has all of the mother's pussy juice on it. A newborn baby is a baby that's been out for a month and a half. You know, that first month and a half. Just been out for a month and a half. Has made its debut. It dropped a month and a half ago. Okay. So what are you saying about the top of this baby's head?

I'm telling you, a newborn baby has a certain, the top of the head has a certain smell to it. You've never heard this before. I've never heard this before. What is it? It's a – I'm going to Google it. I'll tell you that much.

They say that babies have this scent that they give off, and it's an evolutionary thing that is left over so mothers would not abandon their babies. It has a sweet smell that is filled with pheromones that make their mothers very fond of them. I'm looking up a website called Science News. My favorite website. Why Women Want to Sniff My Baby

is the title of this article. Women approach, they want to sniff a baby and they want to bottle that baby-headed scented spray. Interesting. So there's like a pheromone that comes out of a baby's head. Yeah, and while I acknowledge this is a corny lyric, and I've – In what way is it like freedom? That is my point.

Well, yeah. I mean, that's – but what he's talking about, about the song is about is about this paraplegic kid whose name weirdly was christopher nolan who's who grew up and directed batman movies and when you say weirdly it's because these guys wrote hold me thrill me kiss me kill me These guys wrote Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me. Killmer. But also because of this song, he was cured of his paraplegic state. Because of this song? Yes. And he was able to direct all of these terrific movies. All of these terrific Batman movies.

No, but no, this is about a guy named Christopher Nolan who was a paraplegic and they invented a drug that all of a sudden you tell the story. Well, he was a paraplegic and he was a kid, and due to an accident, he became paraplegic, and everyone thought his brain function was gone. He couldn't move anything in his body. But his mother... Not even his dick?

I think his... Nothing? They gave him... No, his penis could move. Okay. That's the one thing that could move. They had this drug. They called it the miracle drug that allowed him to move one muscle in his neck.

But before they discovered that drug, his mother insisted that because of what she saw in his eyes, just being his mom, she insisted he could hear all of them. He wasn't cut off completely. He knew what was going on. He was trapped in his body. They found this drug so he could move one muscle in his neck. They attached a rod to his forehead. A rod?

So he could type using this one muscle in his neck and all this poetry poured out of him and he started communicating of poetry for years and years right yeah and so the song is about this mother kind of believing in her kid and not giving up until they find this miracle drug so he could move one fucking muscle in his neck and so i guess if we're looking at that we're saying freedom freedom meaning the freedom of of this kid not being trapped inside of his body anymore freedom has a scent like the top of a newborn baby's head i guess it's sort of saying i'm your mother i'm your mother and i

smell your head what is this trying to say i don't know but i know that that lyric to me corny as it is i i really like it and like i've said many times about the band before i think sometimes you overreach and you get a little corny but what you harness in is sometimes great and i think this song is i find it really moving. I really do. Let's hear a little bit more of it. At this point, I'm on board with it. Yeah. I think it's a good old school. It sounds a little old school, but at this point, it needs to go to the chorus, in my opinion.

Well, the chorus just happened. See, that is the lead up to the chorus. This is my point with this song. That's a great lead up to a chorus. It's like... Oh, and then you think it needs to go somewhere else. And then it needs to go... I don't know. What song is that?

I don't know. For that song, I didn't. That's City of Blinding Lights. That sounded good. That's City of Blinding Lights. I think that song, for a while, that was my favorite U2 song. I just found it. I find that chorus, not to bring In Utero up again, but.

Oh, boy. I'm going to. Is it time for another episode of In Utero? Yeah. Hey, welcome to In Utero. This is Scott. And this is Scott. We're talking about newborn baby's heads and the band Nirvana's album In Utero on this episode.

I don't know if you've done this before, Scott, but do you still have a copy of In Utero? Oh, of course. If you smell it, you know what it smells like? Freedom? A newborn baby's head. Really uh this has been in utero this is scott this is scott saying hey utero you tootero you tootero what if by the way great episode that was a. What if, we talked about on the pop episode how what if U2 put out a record called Poop. Right.

What if they right after In Utero put out a record called U2 Did Bro. U2 Did Bro. U2 Did Bro. And it had a parody of the album cover, which by the way, Kurt Cobain would have just passed away. And the week after he dies, they put out You Too Did Bro. With the in utero guy on that cover. Going like this. And a fart cloud coming out of his butt.

I think they should have. They should have. Missed opportunity, guys in U2. So, okay. So you feel like that song falls a little short. They should have. Missed opportunity, guys in U2. So, okay. Okay, so you feel like that song falls a little short. Slightly short. It's like I really like it, but I just feel like it needs a course. You know how those guys like in U2, by the way.

We're talking Bono. We're talking The Edge. What about bass and drums? I didn't think about them. I know they have a bassist and a drumist. Right. Who is their drumist? I forget.

Janet. Jarrison? Janet. Janet. Janet Jarrison? Janet Jarrison, yes. Their drumist, Janet Jarrison. You know how they put together their songs like in a lot of riffs and you'll read about,

oh, one was a combination of three different riffs that they had. I feel like they need one more riff and put it in there. That's so funny because I think that song is all there. You know what? I'm not going to say you're wrong. I'm just going to say we slightly disagree. Let us then go to the next song. This is a single.

Sometimes you can't make it on your own. I think they were expecting this to be a big single because it was their follow-up to Vertigo. And they had that really kind of, they had like two videos for it. They're always making two videos. Guys, make one video. But I think they do that when they think it's going to be like, they'll show one to this audience, the other, you know.

I like this song. Me too. I think it's really good. I love the, this is one of the better ones in my opinion, the lead up to the chorus when it's the edge singing. It's just a good U2 song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Have you heard the early version? You must have. Probably. It's on... Let me look for it. Live and Unbaked or... Not Live and Unbaked. Unreleased and Rare, live and unbaked or... Not live and unbaked. Unreleased and rare.

Live and unbaked. What does unbaked mean? Here, let me play the early version. Yeah, do that. Because it's not as good, and you go, you know what? You guys improved. Okay, first of all, what kind of start is that? You tooted, bro. You tooted, bro. Okay, first of all, what kind of start is that? Mer-ner. Mer-ner.

You tooted, bro. You tooted, bro. You two medium rare and remastered? Well, this is on something I have called unreleased and rare, but yeah, I think that's something that it also appears on. Wow, this is not as good. Not as good, and also the chorus is not as good. Oh, this is when as good. Not as good. And also, the chorus is not as good. Oh, this is when it was called Tough.

Oh, really? They just call it, sometimes you can't make it on your own, alternate version. But yeah, originally titled Tough. It's about Bono's relationship with his dying father. Yeah. Not about Michael Hutchence of the band. And snake kicking the green snake kicking the green snake was that from our show i think so i think we talked about that the last episode maybe yeah this is not it definitely improved and i think this part is different right here let's

improved and i think this part is different right here let's oh no this is the same this is how it goes okay this is the same but it differs in a very significant way i think maybe right here right here. Oh, yeah. It's missing the and it's you that I look at That must be from some other song

and they shoved it in there. And that to me is what maybe Miracle Drug is missing a little bit. It's just like that transcendent moment that's just like

when the melody lifts up and just kind of soars and like you got the edge singing this really super high falsetto part. I think it's a beautiful song. I think it's really good.

Yeah, me too. It was not as big of a hit as they thought it would be. No. Which is weird. I thought it would be, but maybe they should have waited and put it out third or something rather than the second single. I believe it was the second single.

It could have been. Maybe. I think it was the second. It was. We'll never know. It actually. We'll never know. It actually. We'll never ever know. I can tell you that information right now.

It was the. It debuted at number one on the UK singles chart. Wow. That said, I don't know that it was really. It wasn't big here. It was their third single. Was All Because of You. Yeah.

Was the second one. All right. Let's hear the next song. Love and Peace or Else. of You. Yeah, was the second one. All right, let's hear the next song, Love and Peace or Else. Unfortunately titled. Yeah, and I think this song, I don't love the way it begins. Okay, but by the way,

most of this record, well, it's executive produced by Steve Lillywhite. He's back from war, but this is the only track that is actually produced by who oh you guessed it boy old sourpuss he had to come back didn't he he had to him and lanois got together and like let's cloud up let's let's put a clunker on you two's album just to remind them that they're nothing without us that we really know how to team up and make a clunker.

Call us the clunker twins. Someone, by the way, got very upset at me on Twitter. Some U2 fan sent me a thing like saying, Daniel Anwa is a producer too. He's not just the guy who plays. I don't know what it was. What? Did you say he was not a producer?

I don't know what we talked about. We talk a lot of shit on this show that I don't remember me too who cares what we talked about who cares who if you're a youtube super fan and also i know that we both admire brian eno tremendously yes we just are fucking around we're calling him old sourpuss which by way, we're 40 seconds in and this song has not started. And by the way, I just recently found a Brian Eno interview about No Line on the Horizon. And it's like 40 minutes of him just talking in a room. And I watched the entire thing trying to figure out what parts to bring on this show. Yeah, I want to see it. Just thinking about him being Sourpuss. It was very funny watching this video. But I I want to see it. Just thinking about him being sourpuss,

it was very funny watching this video. But I watched 40 minutes of him just talking. Just talking, yeah. Obviously we're fans. I don't like this song.

I feel like this song gets there eventually. Like when it really kicks in again, it gets better, but I feel like it could have been condensed into a better song.

I have to track four, too. I know. Remember the last record, how they were just hit. Why is it track four, too? I know. Remember the last record, how they were just hit, hit, hit, hit, hit? To me, it's weirdly sequenced. It shouldn't have been track four. I don't like it. Let's go to the next song. But wait, wait, wait.

Can you skip ahead a bit? Because it does get kind of good. Now, remember this? Wait, right here? This is better. What kind of song is this? I remember critics really loved this song and always, like... Critics!

And I never really got it, but... Fuck them. All right, let's go to the next one. City of Blinding Light. This is a great song. Yes, I like this song. So this is the third song that I like out of five. Not bad. And Miracle Drug, I like this song. So this is the third song that I like out of five. Not bad.

And Miracle Drug, I... No, this is the third song I think is really good and transcendent out of five. So far, not bad. And Obama ended up using this on the campaign. Miracle Drug, I think, is okay and almost there. I just wish they would have done one more pass. This is a terrific song. This is a terrific song this is a great song um and i think it takes like three minutes to get to

the chorus it's one of those youtube yeah it's sort of like uh uh where is it where the streets have no name yeah like starts yeah i i just think it's this is is really good. Yeah. And this is great, great live. And probably a staple live for. At the Staple Center. When they play the Staple Center. Okay, so then we have All Because of You, which is another one of those. This was a single. Yeah.

But I have to say. Not a fan. Just do one more draft. I think this is awesome. And this is miracle drug. Just do one more draft. I think this is awesome, and this is miracle drug. Oops. Sorry, bro. I think I'm on random. Random.

Random. I love All Because of You, but I think it's more like The Who. It's just a... Whatever is on the surface of the song is all it is it's just a a pop song i'll tell you the one part that because i'm a melody guy like i love melodies everyone knows that about you i'll tell you the part that i that i just go ah do one more draft is where it goes because i think it's very catchy all because of of you. But then he goes, all because of you.

He just kind of does this like, ah. It just feels like temporary placeholder to come up with a melody. See, I think it's fully realized. I just think it's just a little throwaway, but not throwaway in the sense that it shouldn't be there. But I'm going to fast. But I think it's really good. I like parts of it.

Who's that? Fedge. I think Fedge's work on this song is amazing. I like the lyrics too. I think these are really good lyrics. Let's get to the chorus okay this is a good little bridge okay here it is

what's wrong with that I don't know it just doesn't sound like a melody to me it's just kind of like I don't know what to do right here I think it really

reminds me of The Who for me it's like if you're gonna go all because of you then go up going to go all because of you, then go up and be like all because of you! And then go up and go

all because of you! Yeah, it's really too bad they didn't do that. What's wrong with them? It sounded great. Okay, so then... Then I feel like the record's over

because I don't know that anything else on it is even coming close. Oh, you're crazy. Okay, Man and a Woman is not good. It sounds like a Sting song to me. I do not like this song. Okay, but this is your favorite record. Interesting. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't like this song very much.

It's your favorite record by your favorite band. It's like wild honey or whatever yeah yeah why don't they put like a oh actually i do this is one that i sort of go it reminds me of their earlier works it kind of reminds me of something that they would put on like unforgettable fire or something i kind of like, but I agree it should not be on this record. Sounds like Sting, though. I fucking like Sting, bro. Crumbs from your table.

Wait, are you talking about you two, or are you talking about my actual table? No, I want to come over to your house and whatever crumbs you may have on your table, I would like access to them. Why are you so into crumbs? I enjoy eating crumbs. I enjoy making necklaces out of crumbs. crumbs you may have on your table i would like access to them are you so into crumbs i enjoy eating crumbs i enjoy making necklaces out of crumbs i enjoy crumbs okay give me your crumb should we start an episode of give me your crumbs okay here we go this is give me your crumbs hey welcome to give me your crumbs i'm scott this is scott scott um will you give me your crumbs will you give me your crumbs yeah. Will you give me your crumbs? Will you give me your crumbs?

Yeah. Okay. Will you give me your crumbs? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Bye. Bye.

All right. We're back with you talking YouTube to me. Let's hear a little crumbs from your table. This, I think, is one of the great songs. Okay. Let's hear a little bit. I'll be quiet and we'll just listen to it. Someone complained, by the way,

like, why are you only playing 10 seconds of each song? Well, we can't, like, legitimately play U2 songs. I mean, we could, but then the podcast would be really, really long.

And also, people would just, like, why don't we just play a U2 record and then... See, you can't say that... Listen to this. This is great. Okay, here we go. This is just a big song it doesn't really remind me of u2 i have to say it's not giving me the guitar that sounds like

veg i'm kind of bored it's this is a terrific song let's get to the core you just skipped it for us that sounds about right. It's a terrific song. You obviously- What is he talking about, crumbs from your table? It's about- A haunted house? The haunted houses in every- Every nation in the world has at least four haunted houses. Okay, good.

Bono has visited them all. To me, it sounds like maybe you've never even listened to that song all the way through maybe not i don't know it's a great song it's a it's a big live sounding song um i i think it's a terrific all right song let's hear one step closer one step closer is kind of like grace it's sort of a palate cleanser it's not a bad song by the way remember when you two like unforgettable fire they'd put weird instrumentals and they were trying to do... This is what I'm talking about. Like, these are all fine songs, but they're not like...

Well, they get to that on the next album. They have some very experimental songs on there. And that's why I like... Yeah, I like it too, the next record. But this is a straight-ahead rock and roll album. This is just a rock... This is like... It's like...

Remember how they started working with Sourpuss because they didn't want to be The Who? This is like a Who record. I don't think it is at all because I think it has those transcendent U2 moments and songs. But it's not an album. It's a collection of songs. I disagree. I think it has a lot of themes that go through the entire album. Do you know?

And I think aesthetically, the guitar sound is consistent. I will agree with that. It's aesthetically an album, but I don't believe that it's not a work of art. The whole thing is pared down, and it feels like just a tight rock band. When I think of albums, I think of, I don't know, Sgt. Pepper. You know, I love... Can we talk about albums for a second? Sure, why not?

Albums, to me, it's more than a collection of songs. Am I right, Scott? Probably. Okay, so One Step Closer is not the most interesting song, but it's pretty. Okay, and this is your favorite record by your favorite band. All right, here we go. And Original of the Species.

This is my favorite song on the album, Original of the Species. Ding dong, ding dong. I think this should have been, it was a single, but like a year after the album came out, they should have, I think it could have been. Spider-Man. Something. Spider-Man.

Does whatever a spider can. Spins a web any size. Spoiler alert, we're going to have a Spider-Man episode one of these days. Yes, we are. That's going to be good. Do you think this is where they came up with the idea to do the Spider-Man musical? Yes. Spider-Man. Spider-Man.

Oh, I like this. This is my favorite song. I like the horns, too. Is it horns? No horns ever show up in this, but... I'm hearing like... Oh, maybe it's synthesizers. Now the chorus is coming.

It's a great, great chorus. Like this is such a forgotten... That's good. I like that. That's good. This isn't even the chorus. This is what I mean. This is like the,

this could be a chorus, but it's the lead up to the chorus. That's what I like in a good U2 song. Here it comes. Just do. See, that's good. Amazing, right? He's going up. He's going up on the melody. Right. This is good. Amazing, right? He's going up.

He's going up on the melody. Right. Yeah, this is good. This is a good song. This is one of my very favorite songs of theirs. Ooh, I wish it continued, though. Like, why does the chorus end after two things? Oh, no, later.

They go back to it. Okay. So I'll give you that one. So I like Vertigo. I like Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own. I like City of Blinding Lights. and i like original of the species but i think you like crumbs from your table you've just never listened to it crumbs from your table yahweh i also really like it sounds like uh sonic youth when it starts which i appreciate

oh yeah this is classic sonic youth doesn't that sound a little like Sonic Youth? Except for the jangly edginess of it. Except for the birdsy R.E.M.E. guitar. This doesn't sound like Sonic Youth at all. What the fuck are you talking about? Just the wall of guitars that it starts with always reminded me of Sonic Youth. You're such a fucking loser. Now this...

Wait, start it again and tell me that doesn't sound a little Sonic Youth-y. Which band is Sonic Youth? They're four lads from Liverpool. Oh, right, yeah. This sounds exactly like them. Is this the one where he goes, Yahweh! Yes. This is okay.

Take these shoes. Take these shoes. Kind of a weird sound on his lyrics, because he's got someone an octave down. Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, there are, for for me a man and a woman uh huh love and peace

or else uh huh and one step closer those three songs are ones that you could do without I could do without even though I think

one step closer is pretty it's just I would usually skip it when it's on I think it's about something really lovely but it's just i would usually skip it when it's on i think it's about something really lovely but it's just not a song i so you like eight out of the 11 tracks what about the

bonus track fast cars i am not a fan of i'm not a fan of that either but mercy i would have taken off a man and because i feel like love and peace or Else is thematically kind of a centerpiece to the album, and it was important. I just feel like they should have come up with a tighter version of it or something. So Mercy is a track. We were talking about this during the break. Mercy is a track that they did not put on

that you found on YouTube. YouTube. Okay, and let's hear a little bit of Mercy. I think lyrically it's not totally finished, but... Does it have someone going, Ooh, Mercy! Ooh, Mercy! That was terrible.

Sounds okay. I don't know that I've heard this um it takes a while to get to the chorus so takes a while thanks well we gotta do our stained glass podcast by the way when is that happening so you're pretty ambivalent about the album although it sounds like what happened there i don't know you fucked up up. That's what happened. It's this stupid chord. Plug it in, bro. Here we go.

So I feel like if you took off Man and a Woman and put this on there, it would... Because this is like a seven-minute epic U2 song. I think it would be fine if this and City of Blinding Lights have two big epics on the album. They should have front-loaded them a little. I think that if they put Vertigo, then Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, then City of Blinding Lights, those three incredible hits back-to-back,

maybe I'm hooked into the album a little more. As it is, I kind of went Vertigo, Miracle Drug's okay. Then Ooh, I Like Sometimes, You Can't Make It On Your Own, and then Love and Peace or Else, I'm just out. I've always thought Love and Peace or Else is a... It's a boner drop. They must have really loved it at the time. What do you think of Are You Gonna Wait Forever?

That's off the Vertigo single. Yeah, I think it's okay. Are you gonna wait forever? I like it. I think it could have been on the record. What about Neon Lights, their Kraftwerk cover?

Yeah, that's pretty good. All right. But that original, The Species, should have been... Should have been up, moved up. Why is it track 10? I don't mind that.

I think it's great because I think the album is really consistent. I think they knew that All That You Can't Leave Behind was a little too front-loaded, so they spread out the really great ones. Why not front-load everything? Because you should spread it out so the album's more cohesive. I don't know. Okay, so the chorus... Turn this off. No, the chorus to this is coming and it's great listen

this is a shitty recording okay here it comes pretty good right yeah although it maybe needs one last love will come again yeah i think you're right well uh did you see stop it you did it to me again did we talk about that on a previous episode like try to hand me back the chords yeah you fucking like okay so why do i keep falling for that let's come to some sort of agreeance on this album did you see the live tour oh yeah i did i saw that not you didn't i didn't so you were so ambivalent about this album that you didn't even bother to go. Yeah, I didn't even bother to go.

Huh. I bought the DVD or Blu-ray of it. All of my stuff, because we're in between places, is in storage. Yeah. So I have not been able to watch it. I hope by the time we get to talking about the next record, which may be a few episodes down the line that I'll have watched it and then can talk about that. Well, I hope so too, Scott. It was

similar to the Elevation Tour. Instead of a heart, it was a circle that came because Vertigo was like a target. I've seen the pictures. Okay, so... By the way some of the

some of the deleted tracks on this Xanax and Wine oh put on what all the are you gonna wait forever let me

I haven't heard that in a while yes master put it on uh Xanax and Wine an alternate early version what are you

Adam's like jacking off. This is not... Xanax and... Cody, I'm trying to play something. Let's try it again. What were you just doing, Cody? There we go.

Cody's like fucking falling asleep and we still have one more episode to do. Xanax and Wine, an alternate version of Fast Cars. Fast Cars isn't even any good. Why are we doing an alternate version? But that other version of it is better. Maybe, yeah.

But Xanax and Wine. Xanax and Wine is not good. Title your songs better. Native Son and early version of Vertigo. This is all because of you, right? I don't think so. I mean, it's like an early version of it. No, well,

no, there's an early version of all because of you that is not this i don't think so i think this is a totally different song anyway we're out of time yeah all right okay but what do we think about this record i think it's great i think it's more a sentimental favorite for me just because I was so happy that at this point in their career, because it kept them very relevant. It was a big, huge hit.

It kept them going, kept the U2 machine going. They had the Vertigo playing. Yes. I felt like there's no way to fake an album like this. It's a straightforward rock album. The songs are up front. I thought the guitar work was really innovative and great. Even though it's just a straightforward rock album,

I thought he did new things with the guitar. I just thought it sounded really good and raw and for a band this big to do that i thought it was interesting and cool and uh there are a few songs i'm not crazy about but i still listen to it i think it's great you can't win them all scott well scott i think there's some good songs on it there's about uh, by my count, I think we said five songs that I really like on it. Is that right? One, two, three. But even those, you're a little.

No, four songs that I think are great U2 songs. Yeah. And then probably three that I think are okay. Maybe needed to go through the old, another draft of them. And then some that are just misses for me. So, and this is one I do not return to. When I listened to it front to back the other day, it was the first time I'd done that

maybe since it came out. Really? It did not pull me in. Whereas All That You Can't Leave Behind, we agreed last episode, it's great for the first half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, shut up.

All right, so that's it for another episode of You Talking. Wow, we do have a whole other one to record right now. Yeah's it for another episode of You Talking. Wow, we do have a whole other one to record right now. Yeah, it's very late at night. That's it for You Talking U2 to me. This is Scott, and for Scott across the table from me, I hope you've found what you're looking for! We'll see you next week.

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