U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - No Line on the Horizon
Episode Date: May 21, 2014Get on your boots this week as Adam Scott Aukerman get deep into U2's twelfth studio album No Line on the Horizon for the whole episode. They'll talk about the aborted Rick Rubin sessions, the session...s with Brian Eno & Daniel Lanois, how U2's "Get On Your Boots" sounds exactly like The Escape Club's "Wild, Wild West," their experiences with the record, the U2 360° Tour, and U2's 2009 Grammys performance. Plus, they break down Billy Joel's recent performance at the Hollywood Bowl.
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from boy to boots getting then off them getting them on that is
getting your boots get on your boots this is the episode for this this is you talking you too to me the comprehensive and
encyclopedic compendium of all things you too this is good rock and roll uh music yes
you talking you too to me we will answer the musical question you talking you too to me
the musical question you talking you two to me this very episode is is this the episode where we answer that question where we finally reveal the climactic conclusion no but this is not our
final episode this is not the climactic conclusion um i want to say hello um my name is Scott and across the table from me is Scott Hi
Hi Scott
Hi Scott
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You're cute Scott
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Welcome to Scott
I am Scott.
We have not been together doing the show for two weeks now.
Has it been two weeks?
It's been two weeks.
Two weeks ago, we recorded the How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb.
That's right.
And then we got really crazy with the Slowing It Down 2 with Jimmy Pardo. That's right and then we got really crazy with the slowing it down too with jimmy
pardo that's right where it just went into the eagles forever yeah um i haven't listened to that
one but this episode we're getting it in by the skin of our teeth again where this is i know this
is coming out uh tomorrow night yeah yeah so boy whoo no day after oh yeah tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah, so boy. Woo! No, day after.
Oh, yeah, tomorrow night.
At midnight.
It goes on at midnight.
Does it ever go up before midnight?
The Ethan Hawke special?
No.
Yeah.
We call that the Hawkendelp.
The Hawkendelp.
It's, I don't know, Cody, Engineer Cody,
maybe it's gone up one minute before midnight once.
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, great.
What about two minutes before midnight?
Nope, never.
Never.
Never says Cody.
Okay, so definitive.
I'm going to look that up.
This episode, it's a Monday night.
We were supposed to-
In Hollywood.
Hey, Hollywood nights.
Holly Weird, if you ask me.
I've heard of Hollywood, but Holly weird?
Yeah, it's just a little play on words I do sometimes, just because Hollywood is full of fruits and nuts.
Let's Be Frank. Oh, by the way, is it time for an episode of Let's Be Frank?
I think it is.
Okay, here we go.
Hey, welcome to Let's Be Frank i'm scott this is scott and look let's be frank hollywood is filled with fruits and nuts just like my gorp that i keep in my knapsack did you just burp i tried
this has been Let's Be Frank. Ah, good ep.
Very, very good ep.
Very good ep.
Yeah, Hollywood is sometimes weird, so that's why you call it Holly Weird.
Yeah, well, it's just there's a bunch of fruits and nuts in this town.
When you say fruits, what are you talking about?
Like, be specific.
What are you talking about?
I mean, like, actual pieces of fruit. Okay, fruit okay there are lots of them sure you did
god it didn't that's so funny it didn't even occur to me that fruits that that is that that's
that's such an old people yeah that's such an old expression of like there's a lot of fruits and
nuts in this town oh my god and now when you say it with, like, you know, kind of as a human being, you know, who's evolved.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, it sounds horrible, right?
Fruits.
They would call people, that was slang for gay people was fruits.
Why is that?
I don't know.
Like, fruity.
Why, I mean, like.
You're a real fruitcake.
Fruitcake? Like, I guess. You're a real fruitcake. Fruitcake?
What?
Like I guess.
I wonder where that came from.
Yeah.
Because that sounds kind of cool to me.
Yeah.
I like fruitcake.
Yeah.
Do you really?
No.
Hmm.
But I like fruit.
I like fruit.
I like cake.
Maybe the whole idea of putting them together was abhorrent to people of like putting fruit
on a cake.
That's like putting a man on a man right yeah maybe fruit cake i guess fruit cake because it is
disgusting but it's not it's not like a real cake with fruit in it it's a completely different thing
what exactly is it because i haven't had one in a long time. It's like gelatin and raisins.
I'm going to look it up. Okay. Fruit
cake. What do we got?
We have... What if there's a picture of you?
It says it's a cake
made with chopped candied fruit.
That's a problem right there.
Chopped candied fruit. Like what? Stop candying fruit. That's a problem right there. Chopped candied fruit.
Like what?
Stop candying fruit.
Fruit tastes good.
Don't need to candy it.
It's got dried fruit and nuts.
Some of those nuts you were talking about.
Yeah, like crazy people.
And spices.
And it's soaked in spirits.
I don't mind the soaked in spirits part.
Oh, that's what gives it an extra gross flavor
is that it's like been doused with brandy.
Right, yeah.
I wonder if the Wikipedia has some sort of like,
it also connotes.
What?
Connotates.
Oh, yeah.
A gay person.
No, it does not.
Okay.
It really doesn't?
It does.
Wait.
Okay.
For other uses, see fruitcake disambiguation.
A derogatory slang term.
A person alleged to suffer from insanity.
So there you go.
Sure, there's that.
Maybe that's what it is.
And then back then people thought, well, if you're gay, then you must be insane.
Oh, that's probably what it is.
That's weird.
But then fruit just by itself became slang for people who are gay.
Right.
So what about that?
It was just short for fruitcake?
Well, hold on.
And maybe it sounded kind of feminine.
Fruit slang, a gay man or LGBT person.
I'm going to look it up.
It's a shitty.
It is a shitty.
Fruit.
Okay.
Many modern pop culture references within the gay nightlife,
like fruit machine and fruit packers,
have been appropriated for reclaiming usage.
Oh, so they've reclaimed it.
Yeah.
Fruit packers.
What does that mean?
Is that like fudge packers, but fruit packers?
I guess, but fruit instead.
Well, good.
They've taken it back.
Why not?
Reclaim fudge packers.
That's a good one.
I know it is.
I don't have time.
Oh, wait.
Origin. I remember hearing the slang fudge, fudge packing, um, for the first time, probably
in, I don't know, what, like junior high school or something.
Do you remember?
I didn't take that class.
Fudge packing.
Um, and just thinking it was, you didn't take fudge packing 101?
You learned everything you need to know about fudge packing?
Anyway.
Anyway.
This says that fruit and fruitcake are seen as negative,
with fruitcake likely originating from nutty as a fruitcake,
aka a crazy person.
So you were right.
Okay.
To be gay was to be insane at the time not good
not good you know not good what we what we used to and you know how long uh has it been since uh
i've had a fruitcake yeah minutes wait you ate a fruitcake an entire fruitcake on the
way over why would you do something like that's why i was four minutes late can i say by the way
you're it's you're technically four minutes late of the rescheduled time a lot of people wonder at
what point but wait was there did we even have a time set we We had a time at 7. We did?
Yes.
I was going to say, hey, let's do it at 7.30, but before I could do that, you said, can't do it until 9, bro.
But I have no evidence of there being a set time.
So when I said, can we do it at 9?
You have no evidence?
Have you looked up Two's Clues?
Hold on.
It's time for Two's Clues.
Yeah, let's do it. Hey to two's clues uh the two sleuth over here is looking up his evidence
what song is that the twilight zone submitted for your approval. Okay, in our texting, there's no...
There's no time.
It just says Monday.
Let's do it.
We did not communicate about...
Wait.
Wait.
Oh, hold on.
Use your search function.
No, I'm just...
We've texted a lot in the past couple days.
We have, we have.
We'll get to it.
But in any case, Adam rescheduled for 9 p.m., which is fine.
We're only doing one episode tonight, but nine is...
I have a FUCK YOU in all caps that was not delivered to you.
Was not delivered?
Oh, no.
Send it on over.
Bumming me out when when
did you mean to do it this was from may 11th what was oh by the way we need to talk about
may 11th all right because i sold you out i don't know if you know about this i think some people
sent you some messages about it oh hey just got it thanks man no it's
uh it's from when we were both in new york yes i i i sold you down the river when we were in new
york yeah i got a bunch of uh right okay here's what happens here's what happened um i'm in new
york i am doing two comedy bang bang live shows i had great rsvps of guests yeah across the board yeah the day of
the show everyone came back to me and said hey we're all dropping out i don't want to sell anyone
out but all of them everyone dropped out oh god including you and i know you would you were
tentative okay yes so um i don't want to sell people out who dropped out, but everyone dropped out of the show
other than Paul F. Tompkins and I.
Oh, that sucks.
So I ended up doing the first show just with Paul F. Tompkins.
Okay.
Which he did a tour de force of four different characters as well as himself.
It was amazing.
It was something the likes of which people
are not often privy to now that said to give people context of why it was happening
uh i mentioned that so you sold me out yes i sold you specifically out now i mentioned it because
i meant it to sound like a like a good thing where I was like, well, Adam Scott was supposed to do this show, but it's Mother's Day and he's giving Naomi a break from the kids.
He's watching the kids and can't get away.
Right.
And then Paul turned it into a joke saying that for Mother's Day, she wanted nothing more than to get away from the family.
Right.
Okay.
So funny. more than to get away from the family right okay so funny but then i think i elaborated on some of
the texts and i um said that you your final text to me was can't do it bro did i really say that
it was not i that was my impression of it it was not as bad as that here here's what it is it's i can't sorry man sorry man okay
similar it was sincere it was sincere it was if i if there was a bro on there yeah i was i was not
100 sincere right you were sorry about it but in my in my retelling of it i retold it as can't do
it bro then the tweets now make sense yes which made everyone groan and then paul talked about bro and the usage of that yeah you did not say that for comedy's
sake it made you out to be a total douche yes total douche so now they all make sense. That's what happened. You dick.
You dick.
So you framed it as me saying bro seriously.
Yeah, but that's what I thought your text was.
But I didn't want to sit there and look it up. I know that if I texted you sorry can't bro that I'm, I am sorry, but I'm kind of kidding.
Because who knows what you think no but
we no one you're an insane person no i don't know what you know one uses bro seriously that's true i
for comedy sake i may have just exaggerated for lying sake you prick so in any case, that episode is going to come out at some point.
I talk about it during that.
Okay, but I,
so did you tell everyone to tweet me then?
No.
People who were there
just took it upon themselves to tweet you.
I was,
in fact,
I think when you listen to it,
when I put it out at some point in the future,
you can sense me trying to do damage control because I know it's going to come out and I know people are going to give you a hard time.
And so I apologize for that.
So, okay, because all the tweets I got were, can't make it, bro.
You idiot.
Like shit like that.
Like I didn't know what it was.
Look, I don't appreciate people tweeting you that.
like shit like that like i didn't know what look i don't i don't appreciate people tweeting you that it was so many that i thought you at the show must have said okay everyone tweet adam
i did not do that's so funny but there were a lot of people there i think i think you know
people were disappointed you weren't there people wanted to see you but it wasn't did you like
advertise that i was going to be on the thing no but but the one thing i did do is i had such a great response of people who wanted to do the show at the time that i was talking about oh my god
these guests are amazing yeah and then the day of everyone dropped out and so i what about the
second show did anyone come to that one bobby moynihan was there it was great white snack uh
could do it for like 10 minutes and then had to leave. And then Bobby Moynihan did four of those.
It was fantastic.
But the other show everyone dropped out of and I was kind of scrambling at the last minute trying to get people who may or may not have been in New York.
Nothing panned out.
We ended up doing a really great show.
I only got one complaint who was probably a nice person who said, you know, the advertisement said guests, not guest.
Oh.
And so, and I'm disappointed and I wish I had seen the second show instead.
Other people were saying, oh, I thought the first show was great and I'm so happy.
It sounds like it was great.
It was pretty amazing.
With Paul doing it.
Yeah.
But, you know, I mean, that's the luck of an improv show.
It's the luck of the draws.
Where were the shows?
Skirball Center at NYU.
Now, we never specified a time.
I'll have you know.
We may have in email form.
Are you looking up all of your emails?
God.
The show needs more of you looking up things
all right anyway while you're doing that let me talk about what's happening here okay because
we on our last episode said this week we were going to do broadway spider-man hey spider-man Hey, Spider-Man, turn off the dark. Not in email form either.
Okay, I apologize.
I apologize.
Look, I'm a bad friend.
Yep.
I'm right.
Do you feel better being right?
Yes.
Or do you feel kind of small for having pointed that out?
I feel a little small for having pointed that out i feel a little small for having pointed it out and i feel a little shitty about uh making everyone work at nine o'clock rather than seven
it's quite all right i we did not again much like my excuse in new york i had to anyway who cares
you have children who cares we're lucky that you're here at all.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Who cares?
Who cares?
Who cares?
Pizza pie.
All right.
So.
So, we were going to do Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark.
Right.
But you alerted me to the fact that Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark is actually chronologically later than No Line on the Horizon. Right. You alerted me to the fact that Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark is actually chronologically later than No Line on the Horizon.
Right.
At the very least, the record is chronologically later.
Yeah, the show opened, I believe, in 2011.
Mm-hmm.
I saw it in 2011.
I saw a preview, but it had been previewing for three months prior to me seeing it right
we'll get to the story of that musical but they started working on it like they started working
on it before no line on the horizon so so chronologically it's a little a little smudgy
a little fudgy murky a little plurky but we going to do No Line on the Horizon instead first because we're going strictly chronological and we're going to do that.
And by the way, we are also trying to do research on Spider-Man, which we have not completed yet.
So we're both reading the book Song of Spider-Man, the Inside Story of the Most Controversial Musical in Broadway History written by the person who wrote the book to the musical.
So we're both reading that and currently in it. So we're going to put that one off for a bit. Broadway history written by the person who wrote the book to the musical.
So we're both reading that and currently in it.
So we're going to put that one off for a bit.
Are you enjoying the book like I am?
Yes.
Well, I have no idea.
Who knows how you're enjoying the book?
Well, I'm enjoying the book. I'm not talking about the point of view of the book or the contents of the book.
Are you merely saying that are you enjoying the book?
I am merely saying-
Why do you have to throw-
Like I am.
Who cares what you do?
I'm merely-
Just ask me if I'm enjoying the book.
Are you a living person like I am?
God, why are you bragging about being a living person?
You grow hairs out of your-
Above your eyes like I do.
Oh, above my eyes.
Do you grow eyeballs on top of your presently existing eyeballs?
Do you have eyeball stacks like I do?
Is that what happens?
You keep growing like new eyeballs on top of your eyeballs?
As long as a person lives, more eyeballs grow on top of the ones that they previously had,
and then the old ones lop back into their head and go down and you swallow them when you're sleeping.
Ugh.
Only when you're sleeping.
Did you not know this?
I did not know this.
Yeah.
Every night, your eyeballs regenerate themselves.
Every night?
And then you poop them out and they swim down under your house.
What?
What?
And they turn into cancer cells that infest themselves into the gophers that live in the ground under your house. Oh my god, this sounds like this is an episode of Science Bros.
I think it is.
Science!
Hey, welcome to Science Bros. This is Scott.
And this is Scott.
And we're talking about eyeballs.
So eyeballs are the most curious part of the human body.
What do you think, Scott?
I think they're by far the most fascinating part of the human body.
People have called them windows to the soul.
Hey, how about the things you see with?
Let's just start there.
How about telescopes of the head?
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. I wish that eyes were like telescopes. You ever think about that of the head? Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Well, I wish that eyes were like telescopes.
You ever think about that?
I think about that every day.
And it would be great because you could be like, oh, is there a man on the moon?
And then you just go, oh, nope.
No man there.
Not tonight.
Not tonight, honey.
Let's go to bed.
And every night before you go to bed with your wife, you would check on that.
Yep.
Here's something I wonder, and I was asking this the other day.
Why can't eyelids, which are the nightshades of the body, why can't they be like vertical blinds?
Oh, that would be so neat.
You know what I mean?
Just like turn a thing and they like flip open and then you can see through slats.
Yeah, you can shut up.
I know what you mean.
I think it would be cool.
You turn them, the vertical blinds flip, and then you could look through them at your neighbor's.
At your neighbor's eyes.
Yeah, and your neighbor's doing the exact same thing through his eyelids.
Why is it his?
What do you mean?
I'd be looking at hers man oh shit
all right this is science bros twins
good episode that was pretty good medically factually correct yeah um okay before we go on
i gotta talk about something okay This is a music podcast.
Yep.
This is about you two.
Yep.
And I know independently of one another, on Saturday evening, you and I were in the exact same place.
You and I were at the Hollyweird Bowl with a lot of the other fruits and nuts.
Yep.
And we were seeing the U2 of New Jersey, Billy Joel.
J.Forson.
J.Forson?
J.Forson.
J.Forson.
No, I was seeing Billy Joel.
Oh, I saw Billy Joel.
Oh, who did you see, though?
J.Forson was there?
I saw earlier in the evening.
I went down to a club. You went to two concerts?
A club down in Inglewood and saw J.G. Forson.
J.G. Forson?
What's he like?
He's kind of like spoken word, but also rock, but also jazz, and also tap dancing, but also
modern freeform dance.
What?
J.G. Forson.
You'll hear about it if you haven't heard about it.
No, it's... He pulls it together? It that's horrible no it's it's he pulls it together
it is horrible but it's also great oh you like i mean it's great but it's also super bad oh but
then it's bad and it's also really good can you sing one of his songs for me um yeah i mean i can
try okay i mean you're no Jiggy Forsen.
Okay.
Um, this one's called I blame you.
Okay.
I blame you.
I blame you.
Oh, there's the jazz part of it.
Yeah.
It all, it's all, it's a bunch of different stuff at the same time. What was that face you were making?
Was that what Jiggy does?
Well, Jiggy, uh, Forsen, he makes all kinds of faces oh that's why his first album was called
all of my faces okay yeah how many faces is he like an impressionist is that what you mean he
does he makes three expressions oh okay so he but each expression is like 27 expressions oh okay so
the one you were doing looked like an overgrown baby who was shaking
his rattle at his mother yeah that's what that expression that's what that is yeah okay and
what are the first ep was called that really yeah it was an ep an ep and an extended play yeah
interesting what and uh when did his first ep come was that that before his first album? When did it drop? Yeah. May 2012, I think.
But it was also like his last album in a way.
Oh, okay.
Very interesting.
This guy sounds fascinating.
He's very interesting.
How much were tickets?
$400.
Whoa!
But they were also free?
In what way?
I mean, it's...
Well, if it's experiential, then it's free.
Okay. But monetarily, it's well, if you if it's experiential, then it's free. OK, but monetarily, it's four hundred dollars.
OK, but that's not a lot of money to a guy like you, right?
Well, it is, but it also isn't.
Do you when you spend money on something?
Do you often think about what you could be spending money on your children instead?
Like like food that goes into their mouths.
Do you think about that at all?
Like when you go see Billy Joel, tickets were expensive.
Right.
Do you think about the things you could be buying instead?
Or does some stuff have to be just for you?
I think it's important, Scott, to take time for yourself.
I mean, I know those of you out there in podcast land or whatever we
call you, some of you are parents, some of you aren't. I'm guessing those of you who are parents
kind of, you know, run up against the same problems that I do, which is,
when do I take time for me? Justicular swelling? What?
Scott, if you speak again, while I'm trying to explain something important to our listeners,
I will fucking take you apart.
I apologize.
I totally apologize.
I know this means a lot to you.
It was very rude of me.
It's fine.
It's totally fine.
It's absolutely fine.
Thank you.
I was just, it was just a warning.
Okay, a shot across the bow.
A shot across the bow, and see, now it's gone.
Like, I expressed myself, I'm fine.
Sure, okay, great.
So, won't happen again.
It's done.
Feel free, it's done.
It's out there.
If we put my hands on an e-meter right now, we would see no aggression whatsoever.
Do you, are you, did you become a Scientologist?
Just in the, since I walked in the building i became a scientologist by the way we're taping this from
the new earwolf studios which is uh in the heart of the scientology building yep the celebrity center
um it's great and you can't come and record here unless you become a scientologist yeah but i found
out when i got here tonight it's great though it's fun it's great it's so. Yeah, but it's great. Which I found out when I got here tonight. It's great, though. It's fun.
It's great. It's so good,
isn't it? It's great.
I've spent so much money on it. It's great.
Yeah, how much money have you spent? Because you've been a
Scientologist for how long? Just, well, I mean,
I've been a Scientologist now five weeks, yeah.
Five weeks. How much money have you spent? Just to get
in the door, it was
$5,575. Okay.
That's just to get in the door. See's a lot of money i mean is it though well when you think about the afterlife
right i mean you know these bodies we're in they're not going to last forever vessels but yeah
these spaceships i call it a spaceship see i'm new to all this so i don't have all the terminology
sure sure sure. What?
And so, okay, so that's just to get in the door.
Now, total, what would you say you've spent in the five weeks you've been a part of this?
$8,936,000.
Okay, see, to me, yeah, that's a lot of money.
But you think about the return.
The return on that investment, because it is an investment.
It is.
It's an investment not only for your future, but for the future of all beings.
Sure.
Because they're going to need a leader someday.
Yeah.
And we can be that leader.
Both of us?
Yeah.
Well, I think that my body is going to kind of meld into yours and become one.
Oh, like you mean like we're going to fuck each other.
Oh, so we fuck each other
And then you just kind of stay inside me
And then we become one being
That's part of Scientology
Is that what happens?
That's becoming clear
You have a penis permanently in your butt?
Yeah, of course
Oh, Jesus
Is that alright?
I spent eight million to get there
I hope it's alright
Well, I don't think I can say it's not all right while I'm in this building.
So, yeah, that's all right.
All right.
Before the podcast ends, it's going to happen.
Okay.
Great.
Did you want to explain something about your kids?
No.
Ah, yeah.
Forgot about them, right?
So, Billy Joel.
Billy Joel.
So, what did you think?
What? Hey, man. What'd you think? Hey, man.
What did you think?
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, man.
What'd you think?
You know what?
This is my first time seeing Billy live.
Me too.
I will say this.
He's the original Piano Man.
You will.
Not only will you say that, you said that.
I certainly did um it actually
for me where were you sitting by the way we had uh seats pretty far back um not as good as yours
i'm sure i'm sure how did you you you but this why are you sure of that okay here's why and this
is what i was thinking when he started. Did he play My Life?
No, he didn't.
He did not.
He did not.
But I started thinking about the song My Life, and I realized you just worked with him in your TV vanity project.
What was it called?
It's called Adam Scott is the King of the Universe.
Why would you call that a vanity project?
Well, it's because it's all about you, and you're playing yourself, and it's all about, like it's all about like hey look at all my funny friends yes like look at all the people i hang out
with that's right and um you know plus also it's just like raking in the dough for you yeah i mean
i know i know you can see right through me but you just worked with him in your thing
yeah your greatest event greatest event the bosom bosom bosom bates bosom booties
um and he was in that and i thought you know what greatest event in television history oh jesus
uh i just said greatest event as if it's something that everyone yeah that you can
shorthand well that's what happened with parks and Rec immediately. Yeah, but that's on a – that, you know, people – you know, millions of people have seen that.
Oh, really?
Well, so you do the little things and the things millions of people have seen.
Scott, I'm like the type of actor that – do you have a few minutes?
Okay.
I like to do different things.
Different things.
Sure, you can do the stuff that's commercial and the stuff for like millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people.
But then you want to take stuff that's just for like hundreds. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people. But. Right.
Then you want to take stuff that's just for like hundreds of thousands of people.
Right.
Like 900,000 people.
Right.
You know?
And that's for me.
That's for you.
That's for me.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But I thought that maybe you could call up Billy and be like, oh, Billy, Billy.
Hey, Billy, Billy.
And say, hey, bro, just had you in my show.
Give me the front row seats.
Give me front row seats, bro.
Did that happen?
We had very nice seats.
How did you get them? We got them through Billy Joel's people were very, very nice and gave us nice seats.
were very, very nice and gave us nice seats.
So my assumption was correct, that this cameo in your little thing then parlayed itself into nice Billy Joel tickets.
They were very, very lovely, nice people.
They were really cool.
So they were great seats.
Yeah.
We were in the back.
That's the difference
between you and me yeah yeah i guess it is and i i i'm just gonna say i'm comfortable with that
yeah i bet you are i bet you are but i'm the underdog they weren't like it it's funny i don't
know i think that artists feel like here we go they're like i i don't know i've i've kind of i've heard before that like
musical acts feel like the best seats musical acts they feel like the best seats at places
like that aren't like right up front the best seats because are like like what do you think
at the hollywood bowl where would you like to be most? I'll tell you what. Like right up front? I've sat in the very back.
Yeah.
And I've sat in the very front,
literally front row.
Yeah.
Front row's always better, bro.
Oh, okay.
It's so much better.
Well, of course.
But if you're looking
at a big show
like the Billy Joel show,
where would you think
is the best place to sit?
I'd say front row.
Front row center.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I think so, at the hollywood bowl
especially it's just why is that there's it's such a big place yeah that even if you start going back
like to row 30 yeah then you're so far back already like i think the front row there is
amazing i think it's great i've never been in the front row there. But I find with those giant shows, I've been to a couple things.
Pop Mart was one of them where I remember-
You appreciated the distance.
No, I spent a bunch of money and bought third row seats, and it was too close.
That show is designed to be seen.
To be far back, yeah, yeah.
This was not one of those, I thought.
All that happened was the piano, Billy was radiating on the 88.
It would revolve.
Right, that's true.
That was about the only visual thing.
They had big screens.
Who gives a fuck?
Okay.
If you're in the front row, you're seeing what's on those screens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who gives a fuck about your big screens?
Yeah. Like, think about this. No, I'm thinking. Think about what you're seeing what's on those screens yeah yeah yeah yeah who gives a fuck about your big screens yeah like think about this no i'm thinking think about what you're saying i got it so i noticed that uh your wife took a picture if you'd been in the front row she could have
taken a picture of billy joel instead she took a picture of the screen she did yeah that's and
put it on instagram that's how close you guys were. Like, take a picture of Billy Joel.
Don't take a picture of the giant screen.
That's funny.
So you could have been closer, I think.
But that's – so now –
They were lovely seats.
They were great.
For me, up until the Encores, that was my ultimate Billy Joel, like what I would want in a set list.
Yeah.
It was great.
So many deep cuts
yeah um deep cuts that sent some of the audience scurrying like where's the orchestra and where's
the orchestra yeah uh vienna is one of my favorites of all time great he played two of my
all-time favorites he played um vienna and uh then he played uh oh, now I'm blanking on one of my
all-time favorites, but from the Cold Springs Harbor.
I would have voted for
for
what was the other one he gave?
The choice between Vienna and
Yes, and I was with
Casey Wilson. She was going out
of her mind for the other one.
Oh, Summer Highland Falls.
Summer Highland Falls falls that's the
one i would i voted for now i they're both great but vienna is one of my favorite songs of all time
so i had i had to go crazy for vienna and yeah you know uh cast a paul over the evening with casey
she was bummed she was a little bummed but no she loved loved it. I mean, it was great. She was one of those people who was standing up every song going,
Right.
Woo!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, he played Zanzibar.
Zanzibar.
I love Zanzibar.
I would say every fourth song was a hit.
Now, he's got so many hits that he could have done the entire show with hits.
He played, I think it might be my favorite Billy Joel song.
And I can't remember the fucking name.
Yeah, why can we not?
We weren't prepared to talk about Billy Joel.
I'm looking up my favorite.
Fucking, I have all the songs right here.
Here we go.
Cold Spring Harbor album.
My favorite is Everybody Loves You Now.
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
That's one of my favorites.
Everybody loves you.
Yeah, for sure.
So many great songs.
He played, he opened with Miami 2017.
That's, I mean, right there.
Come on.
So great.
Yeah.
Then he actually went into a hit, right?
Pressure.
Yeah, Pressure, which is, for a hit, it still is kind of not one of his most well-known.
Yeah, I mean, it's on that Greatest Hits album, which is the third best-selling album of all time.
So, okay.
But still.
But still, it's not like Piano Man or Uptown Girl or something.
Uptown Girl.
And then Everybody Loves You Now and then Vienna.
Vienna.
And then Zanzibar.
I mean, if you know Billy Joel, if you only know his hits, you're kind of going, what the fuck are you talking about?
But the fans were freaking out.
Freaking out.
Now, during Zanzibar, did like 20 people around me get up and go to the snack room?
Yes.
Snack room?
The snack.
There's one room at the Hollywood Bowl, and they have snacks.
Yeah, around us, too, people were getting up during Zanzibar.
But Zanzibar is great.
Great song.
I got a jazz guitar.
I wanted to hear Stiletto, too.
That's one of my favorites.
And then he followed that up with Billy the Kid.
Billy the Kid.
Okay, from a really super early album, his sort of like Western pastiche.
Yeah.
I mean, this is like all deep cuts at this point.
It's fantastic.
Then Where's the Orchestra?
Where's the Orchestra is great.
Now, Where's the Orchestra, the orchestra i thought okay if you know
this record the nylon curtain by the way you're listening to you talking you too to me um the last
song is where's the orchestra it's this wonderful ballad with an orchestra and they fade out while
playing sort of uh a reprise or at least the melody, the top line of Allentown.
Right.
So it fades out.
That's the last song
on the record
and it fades out with da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da in town with it. That was awesome. Yeah. I think he said on Howard Stern once
that Where's the Orchestra
is like
one of those songs
that he just loves
that he wished
could have
was a
was more well known
was a hit.
Right.
Like he feels like
it could have been like
That's interesting
because it's
I don't know
that it could have been a hit
because it is
it's like a
It's a beautiful song
but it's like a
Tin Pan Alley song in a way. And I think Nylon Curtain know that it could have been a hit because it is it's it's like a it's a beautiful song but it's like a tin pan alley song yeah and i think the nylon curtain is his favorite album of his is that
is that true really i think he said that on stern as well that that's like you know you think maybe
you when you fucking know maybe you come back um then he played the entertainer I am the entertainer
Which is semi well known
Because it was on his greatest hits
But still isn't like one of the huge huge huge ones
But then he played a song
He had not played live since the 80s
Oh
But this is a hit though
But he had never played it live or something
No he had played it live but not since the 80s
Like I just fucking said, you weren't listening.
Say Goodbye to Hollywood.
Fucking hell.
What was that?
Say Goodbye to Hollywood.
It was awesome.
Yeah, it was great.
Now, that is a really well-known song,
but that's crazy to hear that he had not played it in so long.
I know.
And he's like, maybe we'll mess it up.
I don't know.
You know, like his New Jersey.
And it sounded perfect.
Yeah, perfect.
Yeah.
And then New York State of Mind.
Okay, now we're segwaying into the hits.
But still, I like New York State of Mind.
No, but after New York State of Mind, there's another not really a hit that I was so excited about.
Is it, she's just fantasy?
Yeah, sometimes a fantasy.
Sometimes a fantasy.
Oh, oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was thinking, no one knows that song.
I fucking love that song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's my favorite Billy Joel album is Glass Houses.
Glass Houses, that's a good one.
Well, I, yeah, I love, of course, The Stranger, I think.
Yeah, I played that album the other day, and I think it's nine songs.
Yeah, no problem.
I played it on my iPod.
Okay, great.
Yep.
Good story.
No, actually, it wasn't my iPod.
Sorry, my Apple TV.
Fine.
Played it through that into my stereo system.
Okay.
Great.
All right.
Good for you.
It wasn't a big deal.
Kudos.
No, it wasn't a big deal.
But I did that.
Okay, all right. And it's one of those albums But I did that. Okay, all right.
And it's one of those albums that's like sports.
They're all hits.
Sports.
Oh, can we talk about sports for a minute?
Is it time to talk about sports?
I feel like we've talked way too much about sports.
Okay, and then after sometimes a fantasy movie.
Fantasy.
Moving Out.
I'm moving out.
Great.
And then Always a Woman.
See, now we're into hits territory, but it's still like-
But then Don't Ask Me Why, which isn't like-
That's a hit though, I would say.
Yeah, that's I think my favorite Billy Joel song.
Why?
Don't ask me why.
Either that or Everybody Loves You Now
or
Miami 2017
you know what
I have a really deep cut
favorite song of his
I don't care
okay
and then River of Dreams
that
to me
that
it's an okay song
but that could have been excluded
because he didn't play anything
from Uptown Girl
meaning
that record Innocent Man he didn't play anything from uptown girl on meaning uh that record uh innocent man he
didn't play anything innocent man i like innocent man though i like innocent man too but but i i
loved what this concert was it was just like all early album deep cuts yeah he didn't play anything
from innocent man on except for he played river of dreams i like that song i like that song but
i still was kind of like oh oh, that's the one thing
that doesn't really...
No, what were you going to say
is your favorite?
Oh, thank you.
No problem.
I mean, I'm in the middle of this,
but go ahead.
Lullaby, Goodnight My Angel.
Oh, yeah.
That's a really great song.
That's such an amazing song.
I think he's been playing that
on his tour.
Has he been playing it really?
Yeah.
I love that song.
That's from his last record.
Most people don't know that song.
From River of Dreams.
Yeah.
And it's...
It's pretty great.
It's a lullaby to his daughter at the time.
It's just a beautiful, beautiful song.
So after River of Dreams,
he played Scenes from an Italian Restaurant.
Great.
Oh, man.
Look, Bottle of Red?
Bottle of White.
Whatever you're in the mood for tonight.
That's just an endlessly great song.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
And then that was the end of...
No, then Piano Man.
Oh, then he did Piano Man, of course.
And then everyone's like swaying and holding.
Yeah, it was pretty rad.
It was pretty cool when Brenda and Eddie waving goodbye and the whole crowd waves.
I was not part of that.
We were too far back.
Yeah.
And then he comes back from-
By the way, we should mention he left the stage after that.
He left the stage.
The crowd-
In case you're confused, yeah.
He left the stage.
Crowd was clapping pretty continuously.
And yelping and hollering and whistling.
He took that to mean people enjoyed the show.
Yep.
And what he thought he would do is return to the stage giving the fans a little extra treat.
Right.
And Encore.
Encore.
Came back.
Came back.
Did his Encore for the Encore and played Still Rock and Roll to Me. Did his encore. For the encore and played still rock and roll to me.
Mm-hmm.
Which it was.
Still is.
Still is.
According to him.
Then he played Big Shot.
According to Jim.
Big Shot.
Big Shot, yes.
I heard you.
Big Shot.
Okay.
And then he played You May Be Right.
Uh-huh.
And Adam Levine.
Oh, okay.
Who is the other guy that came out?
I was too far back.
I couldn't see.
By the way, at this point.
No, but they're giant video screens.
Okay, I will tell you what happened.
At this point, everyone rose to their feet.
Yeah.
When you're as far back as I was, everyone's on a bench.
Yeah.
And basically, everyone.
Wow, you were really far back then.
Yeah.
bench yeah and basically every you were really far back then yeah everyone crowded to where i had to if i was standing i would have to be like turned to the side and trying to squeeze in
and i just was like fuck this so i just sat down you mean to see the screens yeah to see the
screens yeah so i couldn't really see i saw adam levine with his weird blonde hair came out
but i didn't know there was another there was There was a guitar player, and I didn't know who it was.
Was it Slash?
No.
Was it The Edge?
No.
Oh, wait, it was The Edge.
And then they closed with Only the Good Die Young.
Yeah.
I mean, the encore's maybe a little obvious,
but that's what you do with an encore.
But up till the very end, just love you may be right flawless to me
yeah no i love all those songs in the encore i just think that that the encore was what one
would expect a billy joel show to be throughout the entire thing he could have played his entire
greatest hits catalog yeah and instead is not is doing these shows where he's
showing the amazing breadth of his catalog i give the show a c plus i say people should go see it
above average is a c plus above average uh-huh yeah c is, wow. So my ringing endorsement, C+.
Wow.
It's because it sounded like you really enjoyed yourself.
Yep, C+.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
What happens if it's an A+, does your head explode?
I've never seen an A-plus show.
Oh my God, you're impossible.
So you are listening to You Talking U2 to me.
We're breaking down No Line on the Horizon.
And the Billy Joel concert. And the Billy Joel concert.
And the Billy Joel concert.
But did you guys have a great time?
Yeah, it was great.
It was great.
I had never seen him play before.
Neither had I.
We were the great people.
Like I mentioned, Casey Wilson.
And we saw that Paul Scheer was there somewhere in there.
I saw Kate Micucci.
And I knew you were there from Naomi's Instagram feed.
And so I knew I had to bring it up, bro, so we could break down.
And you did.
And we broke it down.
Broke down every song.
And people are fucking going crazy at home right now because we did it.
People are going, like, out of their minds.
Out of their fucking minds, bro.
People are like, I can't believe they broke it down.
The YouTube bros talked about Billy Joe.
By the way, I thought it was Billy Joe from Green Day when I bought the tickets,
so I was a little disappointed.
Yeah, I bet.
Yeah.
That is a disappointment.
Yeah.
We got to take a break.
Yeah, man.
When we come back, we're going to break down No Line on the Horizon as only this podcast
could with words and sentences.
In English.
And sounds.
Are we going to go track by track?
Yeah, we can go track by track.
Let's do it. Track by to go track by track? Yeah, we can go track by track. Let's do it.
Track by track.
Track by track.
So, guys, track by track, when we come back, you talk to YouTube to me.
Bye.
Hey, welcome back to You Talking U2 to M-E.
You two talking to-to to me.
I'm Scott.
It's super late at night at this point.
It's 1014.
We just took an extended break ourselves in between the first act and the second act.
So it is getting super late for us.
And hopefully you are listening to this on your way to work.
You're up.
You're bright.
You're fresh.
You've had a cup of good morning America.
Cup of Joe.
Did you say couple Joe?
Couple Joe.
Could you get me a couple Joe?
There's a couple that just walked in.
They were both named Joe.
Couple of fruits.
Couple of fruitcakes.
Look, listen to me.
Yes.
We're talking about no line on the horizon.
We've been talking about it for an hour at this point.
No line on the horizon yes
now let's get into it okay yes do i have your permission yes yes what do we have to say about
no line on the horizon um let's give let's give some background yeah okay let's talk about when it came out. 27 February 2009.
Two thousand nine.
The longest break in between U2 albums in history.
Until.
Until now.
Until now.
They had not put out something until – what am I trying to say?
Their previous record was How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb in 2004, five years in between records.
And they come out with this one, No Line on the Horizon.
A lot has changed in the musical climate.
A lot has changed in the musical climate.
Yeah, and in between, in that break, they recorded with Rick Rubin.
This is when that happened. Oh, yeah, maybe we should talk about the Rick Rubin sessions and play.
There's only been two songs released from those sessions.
That's right.
Let's play one of them right now.
those sessions that's right let's play one of them right now
when window in the skies is that what this is called what do you think of this song i like it me too
it's not like on heavy rotation for me but i like it sounds pretty good yeah
for me but I like it sounds pretty good yeah the shackles are undone the bullets quit the gun
bullets quit the gun
will keep us when there's none
the rule has been disproved the stone it has been moved
the grain is now a groove.
All deaths are removed.
We can't play this whole song for rights issues.
But anyway, you get the picture.
Is it if you play a whole song, you have to pay for the rights?
Is that something like that?
Huh.
Who knows?
But yeah, here's what happened.
Okay, so they make How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb 2004.
Big hit for them.
Wins tons of Grammys.
We talked about it on one of the last episodes.
You love it.
Your favorite U2 record, even though you hate about half of it, it seems.
And then they make this Greatest Hits album, and they got to put a couple of new songs on it. They working with rick rubin because you know what he's got the magic touch yep he's got the red hot chili
peppers he's got slayer joanie cash joanie cash but um now as far as rick rubin goes yeah i i've heard conflicting reports from people about if he's
any good i have no idea you mean like his method his method his method yes did you say method
method method um i've heard reports that he just sits around on a couch and makes his engineer do
everything yeah i've heard that it's a very
kind of esoteric way of producing an album like he he just sort of says just play the song right
and then then you play it and he goes yeah yeah stuff like that and i've also heard with some
artists he's not even there i have heard that like he just has his people doing it
and then he'll come in every for an hour or he's listening remotely in his house right
live he can hear it yeah or he's doing remote viewing yeah what's that remote viewing is like
a psychic thing where you are visual anyway never mind it up. Read a fucking book for once in your goddamn life.
Instead of being a TV star coasting on your good looks.
Thank you for saying I have good looks.
He, whatever it is, I like a lot of the stuff.
I love that Dixie. It's a recipe for success.
Sugar to taste.
Will you shut up for a second?
That Dixie Chicks album that he produced was terrific.
All right.
Really?
It's great.
They're traitors.
You know what?
You're right.
I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I forgot that they're traitors to America.
I don't.
You know what?
I like certain like real country type stuff, Loretta Lynn and Dolly Parton and stuff like that.
But for some reason, I just have never been able to get into like kind of half country people.
Yeah.
I mean this album is very sort of pared down.
By all accounts, they're great.
I know they do a Neil Finn song.
They're like buddies with him.
It sounds like – I'm sure it's great.
So I bet that
record is good um i like those johnny cash records i love the tom petty album he did
so but run dmc
he seems to be very busy but i would imagine U2, he's not sitting in his house remotely working.
I would imagine he was there.
Maybe he's hands-on.
Okay, here's what I read about their sessions with U2.
Because at the time, they were going to make the entire record with him.
Right.
And it was going to be like a live in the studio record, right?
And it was going to be the Rick Rubin magic touch.
And they were going to follow it up. And they started these sessions, and they did these two songs.
They did The Window in the Skies, which I just played, and then they did the duet with Green Day, The Saints Are Coming, which is a cover of a punk song, which is fine for what it was.
Yeah, it was kind of weird like two bands playing
a song at the same like together like the whole bands right yeah it was i liked it it was i like
it but it's kind of disposable in a way yeah so they're gonna make this record with rick rubin
and what i heard was he said okay I'll make this record with you.
Leave old sourpuss out of it.
Did he really say leave Brian Eno?
You got a new man, me.
I'm your ticket to the top.
Ride on the Rick Rubin freight train.
Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga to stardom.
Is that a direct quote?
Yes, of course.
No, but did he really say like? No, no, no. I think these guys were like, you know what? We've had it with old sourpuss. Is that a direct quote? Yes, of course. No, but did he really say like-
No, no, no.
Oh, okay.
I think these guys were like,
you know what?
We've had it with old sourpuss.
That's a direct quote.
We need a new sound or direction.
We need a weird beard.
Yeah.
No, but what he said was,
cool, come to the studio
with all of your songs already written and worked out.
Oh, right.
U2 hates doing that.
Yeah, they don't do that.
They don't do that.
Homie don't play that in the old two.
In the parlance of the times.
Yeah.
What they like to do,
we've probably talked about it on this show a few times,
is they like to jam.
They're twiddling their knobs, their dicks.
Yeah.
And they pick up their instruments They're dicks. Yeah. And they pick up their instruments.
They're dicks.
Yep.
And then they go over and grab their guitars.
They're dicks.
So, no, they sit around and they like,
Edge will try a chord and is...
D chord, D chord, D chord, D chord, D chord.
And then Adam Clayton comes in.
Meanwhile, Larry Mullins.
And then you got Bono.
Bono, what he'll do is he'll like sort of, as they put it, he'll sing bong leaves.
Right.
It's like a gibberish.
Gibberish.
He sings gibberish or like little snatches of words
that are meant to, like whatever feeling the song gives him.
To find the melody.
To find the melody, okay?
So like, yeah, or whatever he does.
Can you imagine being a producer sitting there
at the beginning of what you've heard
could take six months, but could also blow up into a six-year recording process
sounds like fucking torture and to know that edge mixes his songs sometimes 187 to 500 times
i don't know how this is my point with these guys they have too much money yeah they needed
the constraints of like hey you only have a week to finish this thing.
And then they bang it out.
And I think they, like Pop, Rattle & Hum, and No Line on the Horizon now have scared the bejesus out of them.
And failure is just terrifying to them.
Yes.
So they are going to fiddle
with this new,
with their knobs
and their instruments
and their guitars,
their dicks,
forever.
I think the new record's
never going to come out.
I know.
Because this last single,
if it had been a hit,
they would have went,
oh, okay.
Absolutely.
We know what we're doing,
let's put it out.
But because it didn't
strike anyone's fancy necessarily,
we liked it, we're fans, but look, they're getting it didn't um strike anyone's fancy necessarily we liked it
we're fans but look they're they're getting up there yeah their fans are dying off we have a
podcast about them we're super fans i don't know if they're dying but literally they're i bet a
youtube fan a youtube super fan dies every day one just died he He was waiting.
I bet a YouTube superfan listens to this. I felt a disturbance in the force.
I bet someone listens to this podcast and dies during it.
I bet, for a fact,
any time we put out a new episode of this,
someone dies while listening to it.
I bet that's just statistics.
While listening to it?
Yes. On their iPod. Are you statistics. While listening to it? Yes.
On their iPod.
Are you saying that our podcast kills people?
Yes.
And you're next out there.
Yeah, you, Adam.
But there's such perfectionists that they go into the studio and record, apparently,
an entire album's worth of material with Rick Rubin and then just throw it all in the garbage.
The old scrap heap.
Now, I wonder if we'll ever get to hear those recordings.
And then they keep saying,
hey, we're going to put that stuff out
as a companion record.
They always talk about this.
Yeah.
We're going to put out a second record
like we did with Zoropa.
Did they say they were going to put out
the Rick Rubin stuff?
I'm sure at some point they go,
we'll put out all that stuff.
Yeah.
But what happens
is I think they spend
too much money on the record.
If it doesn't become a hit,
they've sunk, like, how much do you think they
spend on these records? Like 10 million or
something? They just sink
so much money into it, fiddling around,
that if there isn't a hit, they can't
just put out an experimental record anymore
and be like, hey, you know what?
Hey, it wasn't a hit.
Who cares?
We only spent $500,000 on it.
That's why leading up to the release of No Line on the Horizon,
all they were saying in the press is how experimental it was.
But then when it came time to actually come up with a track listing,
they kind of like got rid of a lot of the experimental stuff.
There was a lot of bet hedging on this record.
Okay, but let's talk about it.
So they did these sessions with Rick Rubin.
They junked them all.
Or there's a conflicting report where they were, like Rick Rubin said,
come with songs.
I don't want to sit around while you fuck around forever.
And they said, goodbye, Rick Rubin.
Oh, so there's another report that they never even recorded it?
Let's see.
He encouraged a back-to-basics approach, wanted to bring finished songs to the studio.
They decided to end recording with Rubin.
Though the material from these sessions was shelved, the band expressed interest in revisiting it in the future, of course.
Of course.
And they never did.
So they say, see you later weird
beard see you later long hair what do they do international code um hello hello old sour puss Old Sourpuss? Yes, who's this? This is your lovable lads from Liverpool
Hello guys, what's up?
Do you want to frown for another four years on our album?
Yes
You're hired, we missed you
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
So Brian Eno got into you are the weakest link references.
Oh, he's all about it.
He loves those references.
So they call up.
Cody's so bummed right now.
Cody, sorry you're here. They call up Eno. They call up cody's so bummed cody sorry you're here they call up you know they call up lanois
as principal producers and co-writers and then they also bring in their buddy from back in the
day steve lily white lily white hey buddy by the way um have you gotten those tweets that say the reason Uno Dos Tres Catorce, the reason they do that is because Steve Lillywhite produced the first, the second, the third, and the 14th album?
That's insanity.
Because it's not true.
It's not true at all.
Because No Line on the Horizon is their 12th album.
Yeah.
That's the wisdom of a fool.
Stop tweeting us idiotic stuff.
But tons of people tweeted that to me.
Tons of people tweet a lot of stuff.
Yeah, that's true.
People take severe umbrage if we don't like a song, too.
I get tweets like, I'm disappointed in you.
Yeah.
Like, okay, person I've never heard of.
Yeah, who cares?
So they call him up they go you know what
you fucking bummer of a person get back in here to the studio and get this ship running let's make
another masterpiece so they get back with brian eno Daniel Lenoir. They go, strangely enough, Brian Eno, he's going to go to Fez, Morocco for this festival.
I don't know what he's doing there.
It's a grumpy festival.
Festival of grumps.
Him and Oscar the Grouch.
He goes, hello, boys boys want to come with me and you two you know never hearing of a place
that they've never wanted to go go yep we're right behind you they get on the old vertigo plane
yep and they go out there to morocco meanwhile they hear a lot they still fly in the vertigo
plane yeah no they're the pilots of it oh jesus yeah um bono puts on the pilot's outfit and everything wow larry mullins puts on the
stewardess outfit wow yeah um they get out there to morocco they start hearing some cool local music
and they go you know what this is it this is the right here. This is what our next record is going to be, which I think sounds cool.
Yeah.
You know?
And they make a lot of songs that they describe as like new hymns.
Yeah, which are songs that will be played forever, apparently.
Yes.
They do not lack hubris when it comes to that.
Songs that will be played forever.
So they get really into, they record in the sort of center of this square, what would you call that?
Well, it's an open air place.
I assume there's walls.
They ended up going back to film the video for Magnificent there, I believe.
walls they ended up going back to film the video for magnificent there i believe so they film in this in this place in morocco and they film a lot of uh or they they record a lot of kind of not
drone music but you know like sort of like chant type music you know which one of the songs that that most famously that they recorded there is of course and make sure this is
a moment of surrender the third song third song on the seven minute and 22 so
this was apparently improvised this was all improvised. This was all improvised. Yeah. Adam Clayton, you hear when he drops in the bass,
he's doing sort of a Grandmaster, Flash, and Melly Mel white lines type bass.
And then he changes it in the middle to be slightly different.
But yeah, this whole song is kind of improvised.
One take.
Not the vocal, though.
Probably not.
He probably recorded that eight million times
but this is all brian eno says he never saw anything like it in any session with any band
how amazingly it all came together in this one take so here's the bass line i was talking about where does it change he changes it a little bit into it but you hear that like
like the weird drum thing that was a malfunctioning drum machine oh yeah but it just sounded so cool
they kept it in so this is where they're they're kind of like improv improvisatory
anyway we're gonna stop it is paying off because they're just like sitting around jamming and it
sounds cool um so they they they do a bunch of songs like that yeah they get back to wherever
the fuck they go back to to Ireland. Okay, sure.
And they listen to it all back, and Brian Eno goes,
hmm, doesn't really cut the mustard, does it?
And it's Grey Poupon, of course.
Of course.
Fucking Eno with his Grey Poupon.
He, like, drives up in a limo, rolls down the window to tell them, back to work, boys.
Drives up in a limo, rolls down the window to tell them, back to work, boys.
So they go back to work, but they ended up using
kind of the basic tracks from a lot of those.
Yeah, they used some of it.
Those Morocco songs.
But a lot of the more experimental stuff, they junk,
and they go, you know what?
But I remember when No Line on the Horizon came out,
they said they're going to release this album, Songs of Ascent,
later that year, which is going to happen.
Songs of Ascent of a Woman.
Yes.
And Al Pacino is going to be on the album cover.
The song titles were going to be Hooah!
Yeah.
And they keep pulling me back in.
But what's another catchphrase from Scent of Woman?
I think that's the only one there is.
No, but there is something else like,
I smell a scent of a woman.
Scent of a woman.
That was a terrible Al Pacino impression.
But that never happened.
Apparently a whole other album's worth of experimental hymns.
Oh, yes.
Songs that will be sung forever.
And they were going to follow this album up with that record.
They announced it a year later.
They announced it was coming then three months from then.
Yeah.
And three months, and then it became...
I'm sure if No Line on the Horizon was a big hit, they would have...
They would have.
Yeah.
But here's...
It would have just been something that sold even less than No Line on the Horizon.
Right, and they didn't... they you can sense them scrambling we'll talk about the reaction to it but you can
sense them scrambling after this record of like you hear or you read a lot of quotes of bono saying
what people want out of you too is fill in the blank like what he thinks people want now
to hear people just want to hear a record he also said before the album
came out if this isn't our best album we are irrelevant that was his big like um soundbite
because he always has a yeah a mission statement for the record yeah and i think good it's good
that he has these sound bites that are very um quotable to sell the eye catching yeah okay but that ended up being an
unfortunate one because because yeah you don't want to dare the audience like that you know
even though i think it's good but it's it's uh it wasn't you know and it's not that experimental it is a bit but it's not it's kind of neither because i know you say
get it together what are you fucking trying to say they work in these like three album cycles
where one is uh really unique in a cool new direction yeah number two uh is kind of number two and then the third one is where everyone gets sick of it yeah
yeah but this they i think conscious of that tried to do something new with the third one
they did and we'll get to this but they did with the exception of the single
yeah this the the the the first single is the everyone's Sick of It kind of thing.
I think they thought it was going to be like an Elevation Vertigo type single.
Tell you what, we have to take a break.
We've given you a lot of background.
We've talked a lot of U2 to you at this point.
Who could argue that we've done our jobs?
Not even Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice of the United States.
Not even Clarence Clemens.
Nope.
Saxophonist for Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.
Both of those guys passed away.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, maybe it's the Clarence curse.
Yeah.
Clarence Thomas is alive.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That's how much I care.
We have to take a break when we come back we'll talk about our experiences and our opinions of this record we'll be back talking two to two okay
welcome back we talk about it every, the boots people are getting on,
but here it is.
Here's that single.
Before we get into this, Adam, you went to what I call the bathroom.
Yeah, during that break.
What I call the bathroom.
Yeah.
During that break.
I walked all the way down to, this is a long walk down a short pier.
Down this long ass hallway.
And I got all the way down there and realized I hadn't brought a key with me.
Boy, that was stupid.
Turned around, came back, grabbed the key, went to the ladies' room.
There you go.
Because it's much closer.
What's the difference between the ladies' room and the men's room, in your opinion?
Men's room, the floor is soft.
Some sort of silk plush material.
Mm-hmm.
Women's room, hard heated stone.
Hmm.
Stones.
Really?
Yeah, it's like gravel on the floor.
Hmm.
I'm into it. I like it.
Hmm.
So it took me a while
Because I was doing a lot of walking
Yeah
I'm walking here
So here we are January of 2009
And get on your boots
I'm not ready to talk about this yet
What are you doing?
I was looking for this
For the song?
Adam, that's not funny
I was looking for that
Took you a while Well no, Cody didn't have it turned up For the song? No. Adam, that's not funny. I was looking for that.
Took you a while.
Well, no, Cody didn't have it turned up.
I played it at the right time after your dumbass story.
Terrible story.
Okay, so when that single came out, what happened with Scott Aukerman?
Okay, let me clear my throat okay um i let's give our general opinion of this record okay how's that okay go ahead okay i think no line on the Horizon is actually a lot of a really great album.
I really, really like a lot of this record.
I think it's far and away more of what I want out of a U2 record
than How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb was in the sense of
it really feels like they're trying to create a really interesting work of art.
There's some experimental songs.
It just has the feel of people trying to do something interesting again and not giving a shit about everything having to be a hit
or anything like that.
With the exception of three songs in the very middle of the record.
Okay. of three songs in the very middle of the record okay and get on your boots the first single from
the record is by far for me the worst u2 song that exists oh really in this dimension they
probably have written some terrible songs in other parallel universes okay okay but in this dimension
the one we live in this is the worst you do the
worst one okay i look we just heard a little bit of it i think the the opening guitar groove is
actually pretty badass uh-huh every time i hear it i want to let's hear it one more time here we go
yeah it's not bad it's a little like, hey, you liked Vertigo.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's give you this.
But then this starts here.
Yeah.
This is terrible.
Not only that, but the title.
Get on your boots.
Get on your boots.
And then the fact that he's singing sexy boots i know
it's adam i know daddy i hate it why did they why did they do it i remember people saying it
sounds like that escape club song that's the other thing they have millions and millions of dollars and so many advisors and not one of them said hey bono this is the exact
same song as escape club's the wild wild west do we have that i'm gonna look it up okay because
while i do that because it and so i thought oh no it doesn't and then i i looked it up on youtube
the escape club song and it is very similar.
Yeah.
I'm going to play that right.
And that is not a good thing.
No.
I mean –
Because I remember in like 1988 being like, ugh, fuck you.
That song sucks.
Yeah.
Here we go.
This is –
This is how to be a successful video director.
Shut up, Escape Club.
Just play your song.
When you make videos, it's quite...
What is happening?
Is there like a...
This is a documentary about...
There we go.
Okay, hold on.
It is.
It's the exact same song.
It is.
With the same like kind of...
percussion, like cowbelly percussion.
I know. know But you know
I do like the chorus
Which part
Of
The
Of get on your boots
Get on your boots
No no no
Or is it the
Here let's keep playing it a little bit
Because it is like
Five different songs
I think the chorus is cool
I like this.
But then you go see...
Sexy boots.
What is that?
Yeah.
It's nonsense.
I like the video, too.
I think it's a cool video.
Okay, here comes the chorus.
Is it the...
This part?
Yeah, I like this.
Yeah, kind of grungy.
It's okay.
Like, and then him coming in.
Right.
That, I like that.
That one part is kind of...
You don't know.
Yeah, it's catchy.
That's okay. But it doesn't feel like anything else on the record, I have to say. Yeah, no, it like that. That one part is kind of... You don't know. Yeah, it's catchy. That's okay.
But it doesn't feel like anything else on the record, I have to say.
Yeah, no, it doesn't.
And I remember them, because the Grammys are in late February,
and they came out and performed Get On Your Boots at the Grammys.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Trying to get people to like, hey, this is it.
It was so bad.
And it did not work.
Yeah.
And it looked a little embarrassing.
It looked desperate.
And the audience was like,
hmm, hey, get on your boots.
Like, leave our boots alone.
It's like, we all have boots on.
We're at the Grammys.
Hey, look, we're wearing tuxedos and boots.
We put our fucking boots on.
One boot at a time.
So that came out and immediately just
kind of landed with a thud and everyone said you know what oh i don't like you two anymore not only
that it had been five years since their record that everyone liked and people bought vertigo
five years i mean it's like five years ago we were listening to Britney Spears.
Now we're listening to Spearmint Gum.
What?
Britney Spears.
Sorry, you were way ahead of me on that one.
So, yeah, people are just like, oh, well, I guess I don't need to buy this record yeah i'm not a youtube fan anymore just like but the thing that kind of flummoxed me if i can use that cool
word is that grandpa is that um they didn't rush magnificent out yeah like they fucking waited
until the album was out they also kept trying
to push get on your boots down people's throats but they they also they they can't do anything
small like hey we have a record we've sunk millions and millions into it well the promotion
has to be huge right so we're gonna do five nights in a row on the david letterman show yeah we're
gonna have the mayor of new y York name a street after us.
Right.
Like all this stuff that is not, it's, yeah, it's reminding you all U2 exists, but if you
have a really great song, that'll do some of that work for you.
Right.
Like why not just go, oh, Get On Your Boots is tanking, let's just put out a single now.
Is it because they didn't have a video ready?
Like who cares?
Yeah.
Even in 2009 videos no one
was playing no one cares a lot of it is yeah uh the state of the music industry no one's buying
records anymore so yeah so you know this record flopped in a lot of ways because any record would
flop it still sold well it sold five million copies, which is a huge achievement.
Sure.
These days.
But in any case,
I feel like it is,
I think the first four tracks are great.
I think then the last four are pretty great.
Well, let's go track by track then.
Sure.
Okay, my general impression of the album is I think it's really good.
Well, let's go track by track.
Okay.
Fucking idiot.
Okay, so here's the first first track which i think is just the i put on this record with
low expectations because of get on your boots yeah i heard this track i'm like this is it's
awesome this is the single to me this like if this had been the single but now here's where
i come from that i'm an older u2 fan and this reminds me of something from Unforgettable Fire
or that era.
Yeah.
I get excited
when I hear this.
It sounds like a band,
like it sounds like
Joshua Tree in a way
of just a band
making a really cool song.
And it has that
big epic sound too.
But it's not them
like imitating U2
or anything like that.
This is No Line on the Horizon.
Because it doesn't, it really doesn't sound like anything they've done.
No, it doesn't at all. The melody is cool.
Yeah.
It's really cool. But somehow it harkens back
to their early days while still
having modern touches i
really liked it yeah it's it's a cool song he's singing at the top of his register which i really
like where you know like i can imagine him singing this at live aid or something yeah what i mean
although i have to say i think think I even prefer the other version.
Yeah, I love that.
The other version is pretty good, too.
I can play it here if people want to hear it just for comparison.
It's really cool.
This is the, as they call it, No Line on Horizon 2.
It's more kind of like the demo version, I guess.
Well, I don't even think it's the demo.
I think they did two totally finished versions.
See, this was the B-side to Get On Your Boots.
So I thought this was the song.
And then when I got the album, I was kind of surprisedside to Get On Your Boots, so I thought this was the song,
and then when I got the album,
I was kind of surprised by that new version of it.
So this is the first one you heard.
That's why you like it better.
Well, no, I think I kind of like the more kind of raw feeling of it.
This kind of has like, oh, that's pretty cool.
The do-do-do-do-do, the bass part of it. And then there's also that no not that they don't they don't do in the finished version but both versions are
really good yeah yeah so i remember i got this record and i um i took it up to Tall John's Cabin up in Big Bear.
Yeah.
And I just kind of sat down with it.
We were up there for a weekend,
and I just kind of played it on the CD player
and sat down with it and listened to it.
By the way, and Kulop was not into it.
Yeah, I'm sure.
And she was someone who really loved Beautiful Day
and went to those concerts and stuff,
but she was not
getting into it but which by the way i i mentioned tall john he wanted me to mention one fact
because i've been staying with him for two months at this period that where we're sleeping the bed
on which we are sleeping is your former bed really The bed, he tells me where your children were conceived.
What?
Is that true?
I don't think so.
What bed?
A bed you gave him.
Really?
Yeah.
He asked me to bring that up.
He goes,
if you ever run out of stuff to talk about on the show,
tell him that you're sleeping on the bed
that he used to own that he gave me
it it must have been a long time ago i think so yeah that's hilarious so anyway not the children
i live with anyway other children so i took it up to the cabin and track one
fantastic okay then we're going to track two this is magnificent yeah
this is great too could have been the first single yeah it should have been it's so crazy
but it's not dumb and obvious which is what they thought they needed after vertigo
i actually still would have done the second single.
What would you have done for a single?
I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy.
The single version, the one they kind of remade.
This is all cool. And then once it starts, that percussion that they recorded out in Fez
sounds really cool right here.
It sounds great.
It's just huge.
Yeah.
Good top line up there.
Yeah.
It's a good song.
Yeah. We can't good song. Yeah.
We can't play it all, obviously, but so far, as far as I'm concerned, two out of two.
Yeah.
Pretty amazing.
Then we played a little bit of Moment of Surrender.
That's the one they did in Fez.
We'll play a little bit of it right now.
But that's a seven minute and-second song that's pretty cool
and definitely unlike anything they've ever put out.
And they used to close their shows with this because it's such a cool song.
So my opinion of it at this point is a couple of good rockers
that sound kind of like old U2,
and then this kind of really interesting experimental beat that they've never done before like they're they're going for it as
far as I'm concerned yeah Moment of Surrender to me isn't as kind of great as as it should be
making love to yeah I don't know it's it's really cool but there's something about it
almost sounds like you remember soul to soul soul me me the band soul yeah soul there's something
about that keep on moving don't stop no it sort of sounds. This drum beat to me just sounds like a little. It sounds a little like Enigma.
Yeah.
Like sadness.
Yeah.
Like it's just a little.
I don't know.
Okay.
I love the melody he sings, and I like the song overall.
I think it's really beautiful.
The chorus is amazing.
What I like about what he's doing with melodies on this is he's at the top of his register.
Remember how old U2 songs he sounded kind of strained?
Yeah, yeah.
And the older he gets, I think the less he uses that.
But it sounds like he's doing a lot of that in this record,
which I really like.
Yeah, and the melodies are really good, too.
Track four, Unknown Caller.
This is a favorite of mine from the album i like this a lot it does sound a lot like walk on but i don't mind that and i think it's it's such a experimental song
structurally that that is just a small part of the song i think the the walk-on similarity right what's cool is like
a lot of these songs aren't starting until like right like second 30 sometimes it's like that's
something that in the past two records they had to kind of hit you over the head with what the
song were like i like how they're making an artistic statement on this yeah which they
haven't really done in a long time yeah and then but then when
the songs kick in they have these big huge melodies which are really good so this has this whole
intro with like yeah so far it's at second 50 nothing's really happened with it but other than
it's like setting a mood which is really cool yeah i love this
Yeah, I love this. This...
This...
This...
This...
This...
Produced by Eno and Lanois
with additional production by Steve Lillywhite.
And here it kicks in.
And for the first time,
Daniel Lanois got writing credit on some of these songs.
Right, yeah.
I love the guitar on this song.
All right, we can't play the whole thing, but like, yeah, we're at a minute 30 and not one lyric has been sung, which is kind of cool.
30 and not one lyric has been sung which is kind of cool so then then we get to my problematic portion of the record now you like i'll go crazy if i don't go crazy tonight i listen to it again
today here's my opinion of it i think the melody is really good yeah i really actually like the
song even though it's partially produced by will ii.am of the Black Eyed Peas.
Yeah.
That's a bummer.
Yeah.
But I think the melody is really good, but the lyrics are just so kind of stupid.
I find that there's one phrase that bugs me, but other than that, I'm fine with it.
I think it's like a bubblegum pop song
the title though
I'll go crazy
if I don't go crazy
tonight
I don't know
the original title
was just go crazy
which I think is
a lot better
still like go crazy
yeah
come on grandpa
yeah
here let's hear a little bit of it
um
sounds cool right there
yeah
do do do do do
some of the lyrics though like Sounds cool right there. Yeah. Do, do, do, do, do.
Some of the lyrics, though, like...
Every generation has a chance to change the world.
Yeah.
What's the one about every girl has to go out with an idiot?
I kind of like that lyric.
Yeah, because you're a fucking idiot.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why. I like the melody, but I think the chorus is great.
Can I play the single version?
It's it's yep.
It's better.
It's not produced by will.
I am.
Yep.
He didn't expect it passing the cord over.
It's a tradition.
It's kind of endlessly funny.
It doesn't really get funnier than that on this show.
Nope.
All right.
Did you find it?
Yes, I did.
And here it is.
Or maybe.
Fuck.
It's supposed to be.
It's playing.
Turn your phone up.
It is.
It's up all the way.
Cody, is this your fault?
Yeah.
Cody's nodding yes.
All right.
Go ahead.
That sounds terrible.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, you hadn't plugged it in, Adam?
No, it was plugged in. That sounds terrible. Okay, yeah. Oh, you hadn't plugged it in, Adam?
No, I was plugged in.
Oh, so that's an interesting, like, sort of almost acoustic guitar addition.
Yeah, there's more guitars in it.
It's less kind of Will.i.am-y.
He's mixed a little further back, the vocals.
It just sounds more like a band playing.
It doesn't sound quite as electronic or anything.
I really, I mean, that's the thing.
I can listen to the song and not be like, oh, this sucks.
Yeah.
It just, this is where the record starts getting a little obvious to me.
And I wish that the three songs in the middle of it weren't just kind of like stupid stupid yeah you know like if like if they had just done another draft of the lyrics on this one i just don't understand why they would make a song
this blatantly commercial and not release it as a single until like six months after the album comes out.
This is great.
Also, I read some review when it came out.
Maybe it was the Rolling Stone, I can't remember, but it was like, this is the first time that stuff that Bono had been saying
in interviews and speeches wound up as lyrics in his songs.
Ooh, really?
Yeah, like they, thank thank you he did it to me
they they use some examples where oh yeah he said this in a few interviews this is like one of his
quotes and now now it winds up in the song oh i don't know yeah so then you have get on your boots
I don't know so then you have
Get On Your Boots
not a lot more
needs to be said
about Get On Your Boots
yeah
then
you have
a song called
Stand Up Comedy
which I like
again I think
it's a cool riff
my favorite part
of this song
is the bridge
I think it's
pretty awesome
that's my favorite thing
the Red Hot Chili Peppers went under so I know what you're talking is the bridge i think it's pretty awesome that's my favorite thing the red hot
chili peppers went under so i know what you're talking about the bridge
i think i think just call it something else yeah their titles they got very wonky with the titles
yeah stand-up comedy is not a great title for me it, it's like, especially doing...
Especially since that's not what the songs are.
It's not about stand-up comedy.
But also, it's almost like, you know, that's my job.
It's like, you know, say you're a data processor
and he were to write a song called Data Processing
and got all the details wrong.
You'd be offended.
Well, if not offended, just sort of annoyed.
Server at Applebee's.
Say you're a server at Applebee's,
and he wrote a song called Server at Applebee's.
You'd be annoyed by that.
And it's all about being a server at Denny's.
It's like they're way different.
No, but go forward a little bit.
No.
And play the bridge. No. Play play. Go forward a little bit. No. And play the bridge.
No.
Play the Red Hot Chili Peppers part.
Is that after another verse and chorus?
Yeah.
All right.
Okay, let's get to halfway through.
Is this it?
Oh, no, this is the end of the chorus again.
Yeah, here it comes.
This is kind of like...
Too much like a Zeppelin song or something.
Well, it gets more Zeppelin-y here.
Right here.
There's this great 45 45 second chunk right here this is great this great little kind of Bass break
What?
Bass break
Yeah, I guess that's not what you people actually called
Well, you're calling a bass break cool?
But, wait
Right here
It's 30 seconds away from the end of the song
That part where he goes Woo-woo I just think this is It's 30 seconds away from the end of the song.
That part where he goes,
Woo-woo!
I just think this is... I think it's...
It's kind of a great little
underappreciated song.
I think it's okay.
It's not like the rest of the record, though.
No, not really.
These three songs are atypical
of the eight other songs, which I think
are really great. So they stick out
like a... But that's okay to have
kind of a glossier little section of
the album, don't you think? Bono
said that it's in three sections. There's
the
experimental
section, the pop section,
and then the section which
takes them into new
places they've never gone before.
Oh, that's not really true.
Yeah, I don't know.
So that is stand-up comedy.
I don't know.
You don't like those three songs.
I don't really like those three songs.
I could do without them.
I like –
I like – I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy.
I wish it was called something else.
Me too. I like those two songs
I do not like get on your boots
yeah get on your boots can
get on my dick
get up my butt and fuck off
so then we have the last
four songs this one is called
Fez slash being born
and this is kind of an experimental
instrumental piece a little bit
that has the bridge part of Get On Your Boots,
the let me in the sound, let me in the sound a little bit,
which I don't mind all that much being in this kind of sound collage type thing.
But you can tell they expected that to be a giant hit.
Otherwise, they would not be referencing it in a later song.
They actually thought, oh, sort of like, you know,
Billy Joel with Allentown.
Right.
In Where's the Orchestra?
Right.
They thought this might be the opening of the record
at a lot of points.
This?
They thought this might, yeah, this might be the opening track.
I mean, I think this is fine.
I don't know.
I don't.
I think they're trying something, which I like.
Yeah.
You know.
I like that it harkens back to the Unforgettable Fire
where there's like these weird instrumentals.
Yeah.
And old Sourpuss is finally earning his paycheck.
Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of cool once it gets going.
Right here.
Yeah, this sounds cool.
Yeah.
I like it.
We can't play the whole thing, but it's kind of a cool palate cleanser after those three.
This is the first time you're mentioning us not being able to play entire songs.
Well, I think a lot of people complain about, they go, why do you only play 30 seconds of something?
Well, we can't.
We can't play the whole song.
Otherwise, you two would sue us.
It would be, you sue.
I don't get it, but that's funny.
And their lawyers would not be working pro bono.
We'd be on the edge of bankruptcy.
Okay, so then we have Why the to snow which i think is such a simple
beautiful song i dig it it's like there's there's not a lot of accoutrement on it there's not a you
know they just like wrote a really simple powerful song yeah and they didn't feel like they need to dress it up with boots yeah it is a pretty song it is um the melt or the
the music is actually a traditional song oh it is that they um arranged and then added lyrics to oh
like a traditional irish folk song or something? Something like that.
I'm not sure if it's Irish or not.
Let me read, let me read.
The traditional Advent hymn, Veni, Veni, Emmanuel.
Yeah, it's pretty.
I can't say I reach for the song, really.
Are you reaching for your dong? I reach for my dong more often say I reach for the song, really. Are you reaching for your dong?
I reach for my dong more often than I reach for this song.
I think it's cool, like, and especially where it is in the record.
Do you listen to this song?
Like, when you listen to the record, you don't skip this?
No, I like it.
I always really respond to it.
All right.
With your dong sitting in your hand.
Then we have Breathe, which kind of, I wonder why it's so late in the record.
Yeah, because I think it's a great song.
It deserves to be front-loaded a little bit.
I agree.
Brian Eno thinks this is the best song they've ever recorded.
Shut up, Eno.
It is good, though.
I mean, it's pretty awesome.
Well, you want to know why?
Because he produced it.
Yeah.
Steve Lillywhite actually gets credited with this
with additional production by Daniel Lenoir and Brian Eno.
They were real specific
with the credits
on this album.
Yeah, I wonder
how did they break that up?
Like, he did the
original sessions
and then those guys
come in and do it?
I don't know.
This is a really
cool song, though.
And on Letterman,
the performance of this
was particularly great.
Mm-hmm.
This is kind of rocking,
too rocking to be
at the end of a record yeah it's weirdly sequenced
but another really good melody like oh i don't like that
good melody i really like it then Then you have the last track, Cedars of Lebanon.
Another title that I'm not totally on board with.
But it's not dumb and obvious, like, I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy night or stand-up comedy.
It's a little... What I like about this is it's a good album closer in the way of, like nice somber song is but i just love how it ends
there's no fanfare like every song has been about these really long intros and then the record just
ends without any warning it's a cool artistic statement can i take you to the end would you
mind whatever i i wish they would end uh an album for once on a big closer,
like if Breathe were the final song.
I thought that would have been cool.
Yeah.
This is the last part of this record.
Adam Clayton's kind of the star of this album, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends, gonna last with you longer than your friends.
And it's over.
That's it.
Like normally a U2 record will like longer fade out or something.
This was just like he says a couple of things and then like goodbye.
Yeah.
We're done.
I like this.
I kind of feel like, I don't know, that song to me doesn't feel like an essential.
Like they probably had something a little more song-like they could have put on the album.
I don't know.
Cedars of Lebanon was never a big favorite of mine.
It's cool though.
I love the bass line.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And it's a story of a journalist.
Isn't it from the point of view of a journalist?
I don't care.
So what we're left with is they took a big swing and did something more experimental,
certainly, than their last two records.
We've talked about all that you can't leave behind is just purely like here.
You know, they were experimenting with different types of songs they were writing,
but it really was like song, song, song, song, single, single, single, single.
This they're actually trying to make an album, which I really liked.
And I sat with this record a lot, and I wrestled with Get On Your Boots
and said, well, if I can skip past it, I like this record.
and said, well, if I can skip past it, I like this record.
Yeah.
And I think the thing is, is now then it's been five years since this,
over five.
Yeah.
Just put out some new stuff.
Yeah.
If they had to put out a record every year,
like I was reading about REM today.
Ooh, I got your attention. Why were you were you oh were they reviewing the unplug thing no no i was just reading a separate article about them about their sort of
breakup yeah how um peter buck wanted them to have to put out a record every year right um because he
kind of felt that discipline you know then you don't just like overthink it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And it seems to me like U2 is the prime example of a band that they're not so rich that they don't want to put out records.
I think they still want to put out records.
Yeah.
Yeah, they get distracted and they're doing too much stuff, which leads them to not doing records.
But it's just they doing too much stuff which leads them to not doing records but it's just
they have too much money i think relevancy is the main the main goal for them but if they put out
three records in five years they would stay relevant i agree i think even if those records
were not great they would just by virtue of putting out so much material, they would be
relevant. But everything they have to do is big now. They have to have the biggest tour,
grossing tour of all time. And in a way, they dig a hole for themselves by waiting so long,
because so much importance is going to be put on those 11 songs or however long it is.
It has now been 10 years since their last hit single it's been 10 years
since we started this podcast tonight it's been 10 years since their last hit single vertigo yeah
it's been 10 years that's an eternity that's crazy they are no longer yeah relevant in a way
right only people our age think they're relevant now, you know, in a way. Yeah, because people weren't going to see that last tour,
which, by the way, originally was called the Kiss the Future tour,
and then they changed it when the single bombed.
Oh, is that a lyric from Get On Your Boots?
The future needs a big kiss.
Oh, God.
So, which is kind of a gross lyric.
Mwah. Mwah.
Mwah.
So, they, yeah, they changed it to U2 360 when it kind of, when the single tanked, which is kind of sad.
Yeah.
Just, you know, put out a record, guys.
Yeah.
Just put out three of them.
But it's also weird, if they expected this album to be huge,
why would they have this giant 360 stadium tour to support it?
It's not the kind of album that speaks to stadium rock, really.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, Magnificent is kind of a big song, but I don't know.
I mean. Yeah, who knows what they're thinking anymore?
I don't know.
They obviously got tricked into thinking Get On Your Boots would be successful
because they were so confident with that song.
Oh, man.
They went out there and they were like, a sexy boot.
Oh, man.
I watched that Grammy performance performance recently and it's
just sort of like it's a bummer oh geez have you watched that recently no i'm gonna put it on right
now they're just like you know you were up to something and it's just sort of like oh you're
way better than this yeah and now he's 2009 get on your, oh, you're way better than this. Yeah.
And now you use 2009.
Get on your boots.
Oh, I should plug it in.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, there it is.
Can I come over there and watch?
No, thank you oh he's settled up next to me
all right there's edge doing the riff there's bono in front of a big screen
that's showing the american flag a lot and he he's doing his poses, his kind of vertigo poses.
Yeah.
Sexy boots.
I don't know man it just you're not on mic by the way i'm not saying shut up i'm saying get on mic
and these they have the lyrics up on the screen and it's even more embarrassing because those
aren't like lyrics you want really up on a screen.
It's not like they're – I just think that the fact that it is kind of a spoken word sort of thing
and it's the same melody as the Escape Club is maybe the most embarrassing thing about it, don't you think?
Right, yeah.
That no one realized that this is kind of a lift from a super shitty song.
Yeah, I know.
Not one person said anything.
But that's, you know, that's the other thing.
No one told the Rolling Stones, hey, you have just ripped off, you know, a song by.
Katie Lang.
Katie Lang, yeah.
You know, they had to credit her afterwards.
Like, oh, shit, we did, didn't we?
Like, not one person tells the Rolling Stones that?
That was a huge song, too. Yeah. She made, apparently, oh, shit, we did, didn't we? Like, not one person tells the Rolling Stones that? That was a huge song, too.
Yeah.
She made, apparently, so much money.
Yeah.
I hope so.
Well, you know, I think, though, I listen to this way more than How to Dismantle an atomic bomb.
I listen to it still, too.
I think it's a really, really strong album.
I dig it.
We should, by the way, rank the U2 records in order of how we –
now that we're through them, we can't do it right now.
It's true.
We are done with the U2 catalog.
We've done it all.
I mean, the Spider-Man soundtrack is the record that we haven't covered.
Yeah.
But we've done them all at this point.
We have talked U2 to people.
What is this, their 12th album?
I don't know.
That's another thing is they've been around for 30 some odd years,
and they've only made 12 albums or 13 albums.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, Prince is putting out two a year.
Now, that's not a good thing.
No.
In some cases.
He should rein it in a little bit.
But, you know, like Springsteen recently is a good example of, you know what?
Yeah.
He's back to touring.
He's back to putting out records every two years.
Yeah.
He puts out a lot of albums.
He took some breaks there.
Yeah.
But since he's been kind of –
since Magic, he's been just putting them out like pretty regularly.
Now, does that mean I like every single one?
No, but at least I know in a –
at least I know if I'm disappointed in one,
it's not going to be another five, six years for another one.
Yeah, I feel like Magic and –
what was the one that came out right after Magic?
Lucky Day?
Working on a dream.
Lucky Day.
Wait, not Lucky Day.
No, no.
Working on a dream.
That was the one that came out two years ago.
Yeah.
Okay, so you have his.
He did Magic with Radio Nowhere.
And then he did Working on a Dream.
Then he did Wrecking Ball.
Wrecking Ball, which is great.
Working on a Dream, Wrecking Ball, Magic.
I feel like all those are sort of similar.
Like I think of them as sort of in a similar vein.
A trilogy.
Okay, so he did Magic 2007, Working on a Dream 2009,
Wrecking Ball 2012.
Pretty good. Three records in
five years. Those are all solid
albums. Those are all solid. Then High Hopes,
it's not that great, but at least I know
he's probably got another one. I didn't get
High Hopes. I didn't purchase.
I love that song Lucky Day on
Working on a Dream
cool
so
anyway
so
here's
where we're at
it is 1125
for us
we both
it's time to go
it's time to go
but
here's what we're gonna do
we have some more
sure we're at the end
of their discography
we still have the Broadway episode.
Yep.
Not saying that's next week.
We have a pretty cool episode next week I think people will enjoy.
It's almost as experimental as Fez being born.
And then we'll see where we're at.
All right?
So you can expect at least three more episodes from us.
You two,
put out your record
so we can
end this show.
So we have something to do.
We'll spend 20 episodes
talking about your new record.
Oh, seriously.
If you put out an album,
I would say minimum
three or four episodes
just dissecting it.
Just devoted to that.
Yeah. So put to that. Yeah.
So put it out.
We'll spend one episode just talking about how psyched we are that it's out.
Yes.
We won't even get to the album.
No.
We'll talk about where we were the day we heard that it was out.
We'll do everything.
We'll cover it all.
Just put it out, guys.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
Next week, very special episode, and then we'll see where we're at after that.
But we have to go right now.
Until next time, this is Scott.
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