U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - No Line on the Horizon

Episode Date: May 21, 2014

Get on your boots this week as Adam Scott Aukerman get deep into U2's twelfth studio album No Line on the Horizon for the whole episode. They'll talk about the aborted Rick Rubin sessions, the session...s with Brian Eno & Daniel Lanois, how U2's "Get On Your Boots" sounds exactly like The Escape Club's "Wild, Wild West," their experiences with the record, the U2 360° Tour, and U2's 2009 Grammys performance. Plus, they break down Billy Joel's recent performance at the Hollywood Bowl.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from boy to boots getting then off them getting them on that is getting your boots get on your boots this is the episode for this this is you talking you too to me the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things you too this is good rock and roll uh music yes you talking you too to me we will answer the musical question you talking you too to me the musical question you talking you two to me this very episode is is this the episode where we answer that question where we finally reveal the climactic conclusion no but this is not our final episode this is not the climactic conclusion um i want to say hello um my name is Scott and across the table from me is Scott Hi Hi Scott Hi Scott
Starting point is 00:01:08 Hi Hi Hi Hi Scott I'm so cute You're cute Scott I'm so cute
Starting point is 00:01:20 You're cute Welcome to Scott I am Scott. We have not been together doing the show for two weeks now. Has it been two weeks? It's been two weeks. Two weeks ago, we recorded the How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And then we got really crazy with the Slowing It Down 2 with Jimmy Pardo. That's right and then we got really crazy with the slowing it down too with jimmy pardo that's right where it just went into the eagles forever yeah um i haven't listened to that one but this episode we're getting it in by the skin of our teeth again where this is i know this is coming out uh tomorrow night yeah yeah so boy whoo no day after oh yeah tomorrow night. Yeah. Yeah, so boy. Woo! No, day after. Oh, yeah, tomorrow night. At midnight. It goes on at midnight. Does it ever go up before midnight?
Starting point is 00:02:11 The Ethan Hawke special? No. Yeah. We call that the Hawkendelp. The Hawkendelp. It's, I don't know, Cody, Engineer Cody, maybe it's gone up one minute before midnight once. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Okay, great. What about two minutes before midnight? Nope, never. Never. Never says Cody. Okay, so definitive. I'm going to look that up. This episode, it's a Monday night.
Starting point is 00:02:40 We were supposed to- In Hollywood. Hey, Hollywood nights. Holly Weird, if you ask me. I've heard of Hollywood, but Holly weird? Yeah, it's just a little play on words I do sometimes, just because Hollywood is full of fruits and nuts. Let's Be Frank. Oh, by the way, is it time for an episode of Let's Be Frank? I think it is.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Okay, here we go. Hey, welcome to Let's Be Frank i'm scott this is scott and look let's be frank hollywood is filled with fruits and nuts just like my gorp that i keep in my knapsack did you just burp i tried this has been Let's Be Frank. Ah, good ep. Very, very good ep. Very good ep. Yeah, Hollywood is sometimes weird, so that's why you call it Holly Weird. Yeah, well, it's just there's a bunch of fruits and nuts in this town. When you say fruits, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:03:41 Like, be specific. What are you talking about? I mean, like, actual pieces of fruit. Okay, fruit okay there are lots of them sure you did god it didn't that's so funny it didn't even occur to me that fruits that that is that that's that's such an old people yeah that's such an old expression of like there's a lot of fruits and nuts in this town oh my god and now when you say it with, like, you know, kind of as a human being, you know, who's evolved. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it sounds horrible, right?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Fruits. They would call people, that was slang for gay people was fruits. Why is that? I don't know. Like, fruity. Why, I mean, like. You're a real fruitcake. Fruitcake? Like, I guess. You're a real fruitcake. Fruitcake?
Starting point is 00:04:25 What? Like I guess. I wonder where that came from. Yeah. Because that sounds kind of cool to me. Yeah. I like fruitcake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Do you really? No. Hmm. But I like fruit. I like fruit. I like cake. Maybe the whole idea of putting them together was abhorrent to people of like putting fruit on a cake.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That's like putting a man on a man right yeah maybe fruit cake i guess fruit cake because it is disgusting but it's not it's not like a real cake with fruit in it it's a completely different thing what exactly is it because i haven't had one in a long time. It's like gelatin and raisins. I'm going to look it up. Okay. Fruit cake. What do we got? We have... What if there's a picture of you? It says it's a cake made with chopped candied fruit.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's a problem right there. Chopped candied fruit. Like what? Stop candying fruit. That's a problem right there. Chopped candied fruit. Like what? Stop candying fruit. Fruit tastes good. Don't need to candy it. It's got dried fruit and nuts. Some of those nuts you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah, like crazy people. And spices. And it's soaked in spirits. I don't mind the soaked in spirits part. Oh, that's what gives it an extra gross flavor is that it's like been doused with brandy. Right, yeah. I wonder if the Wikipedia has some sort of like,
Starting point is 00:05:54 it also connotes. What? Connotates. Oh, yeah. A gay person. No, it does not. Okay. It really doesn't?
Starting point is 00:06:05 It does. Wait. Okay. For other uses, see fruitcake disambiguation. A derogatory slang term. A person alleged to suffer from insanity. So there you go. Sure, there's that.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Maybe that's what it is. And then back then people thought, well, if you're gay, then you must be insane. Oh, that's probably what it is. That's weird. But then fruit just by itself became slang for people who are gay. Right. So what about that? It was just short for fruitcake?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Well, hold on. And maybe it sounded kind of feminine. Fruit slang, a gay man or LGBT person. I'm going to look it up. It's a shitty. It is a shitty. Fruit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Many modern pop culture references within the gay nightlife, like fruit machine and fruit packers, have been appropriated for reclaiming usage. Oh, so they've reclaimed it. Yeah. Fruit packers. What does that mean? Is that like fudge packers, but fruit packers?
Starting point is 00:07:11 I guess, but fruit instead. Well, good. They've taken it back. Why not? Reclaim fudge packers. That's a good one. I know it is. I don't have time.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Oh, wait. Origin. I remember hearing the slang fudge, fudge packing, um, for the first time, probably in, I don't know, what, like junior high school or something. Do you remember? I didn't take that class. Fudge packing. Um, and just thinking it was, you didn't take fudge packing 101? You learned everything you need to know about fudge packing?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Anyway. Anyway. This says that fruit and fruitcake are seen as negative, with fruitcake likely originating from nutty as a fruitcake, aka a crazy person. So you were right. Okay. To be gay was to be insane at the time not good
Starting point is 00:08:09 not good you know not good what we what we used to and you know how long uh has it been since uh i've had a fruitcake yeah minutes wait you ate a fruitcake an entire fruitcake on the way over why would you do something like that's why i was four minutes late can i say by the way you're it's you're technically four minutes late of the rescheduled time a lot of people wonder at what point but wait was there did we even have a time set we We had a time at 7. We did? Yes. I was going to say, hey, let's do it at 7.30, but before I could do that, you said, can't do it until 9, bro. But I have no evidence of there being a set time.
Starting point is 00:08:58 So when I said, can we do it at 9? You have no evidence? Have you looked up Two's Clues? Hold on. It's time for Two's Clues. Yeah, let's do it. Hey to two's clues uh the two sleuth over here is looking up his evidence what song is that the twilight zone submitted for your approval. Okay, in our texting, there's no... There's no time.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It just says Monday. Let's do it. We did not communicate about... Wait. Wait. Oh, hold on. Use your search function. No, I'm just...
Starting point is 00:09:45 We've texted a lot in the past couple days. We have, we have. We'll get to it. But in any case, Adam rescheduled for 9 p.m., which is fine. We're only doing one episode tonight, but nine is... I have a FUCK YOU in all caps that was not delivered to you. Was not delivered? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Send it on over. Bumming me out when when did you mean to do it this was from may 11th what was oh by the way we need to talk about may 11th all right because i sold you out i don't know if you know about this i think some people sent you some messages about it oh hey just got it thanks man no it's uh it's from when we were both in new york yes i i i sold you down the river when we were in new york yeah i got a bunch of uh right okay here's what happens here's what happened um i'm in new york i am doing two comedy bang bang live shows i had great rsvps of guests yeah across the board yeah the day of
Starting point is 00:10:47 the show everyone came back to me and said hey we're all dropping out i don't want to sell anyone out but all of them everyone dropped out oh god including you and i know you would you were tentative okay yes so um i don't want to sell people out who dropped out, but everyone dropped out of the show other than Paul F. Tompkins and I. Oh, that sucks. So I ended up doing the first show just with Paul F. Tompkins. Okay. Which he did a tour de force of four different characters as well as himself.
Starting point is 00:11:21 It was amazing. It was something the likes of which people are not often privy to now that said to give people context of why it was happening uh i mentioned that so you sold me out yes i sold you specifically out now i mentioned it because i meant it to sound like a like a good thing where I was like, well, Adam Scott was supposed to do this show, but it's Mother's Day and he's giving Naomi a break from the kids. He's watching the kids and can't get away. Right. And then Paul turned it into a joke saying that for Mother's Day, she wanted nothing more than to get away from the family.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Right. Okay. So funny. more than to get away from the family right okay so funny but then i think i elaborated on some of the texts and i um said that you your final text to me was can't do it bro did i really say that it was not i that was my impression of it it was not as bad as that here here's what it is it's i can't sorry man sorry man okay similar it was sincere it was sincere it was if i if there was a bro on there yeah i was i was not 100 sincere right you were sorry about it but in my in my retelling of it i retold it as can't do it bro then the tweets now make sense yes which made everyone groan and then paul talked about bro and the usage of that yeah you did not say that for comedy's
Starting point is 00:12:52 sake it made you out to be a total douche yes total douche so now they all make sense. That's what happened. You dick. You dick. So you framed it as me saying bro seriously. Yeah, but that's what I thought your text was. But I didn't want to sit there and look it up. I know that if I texted you sorry can't bro that I'm, I am sorry, but I'm kind of kidding. Because who knows what you think no but we no one you're an insane person no i don't know what you know one uses bro seriously that's true i for comedy sake i may have just exaggerated for lying sake you prick so in any case, that episode is going to come out at some point.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I talk about it during that. Okay, but I, so did you tell everyone to tweet me then? No. People who were there just took it upon themselves to tweet you. I was, in fact,
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think when you listen to it, when I put it out at some point in the future, you can sense me trying to do damage control because I know it's going to come out and I know people are going to give you a hard time. And so I apologize for that. So, okay, because all the tweets I got were, can't make it, bro. You idiot. Like shit like that. Like I didn't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Look, I don't appreciate people tweeting you that. like shit like that like i didn't know what look i don't i don't appreciate people tweeting you that it was so many that i thought you at the show must have said okay everyone tweet adam i did not do that's so funny but there were a lot of people there i think i think you know people were disappointed you weren't there people wanted to see you but it wasn't did you like advertise that i was going to be on the thing no but but the one thing i did do is i had such a great response of people who wanted to do the show at the time that i was talking about oh my god these guests are amazing yeah and then the day of everyone dropped out and so i what about the second show did anyone come to that one bobby moynihan was there it was great white snack uh could do it for like 10 minutes and then had to leave. And then Bobby Moynihan did four of those.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It was fantastic. But the other show everyone dropped out of and I was kind of scrambling at the last minute trying to get people who may or may not have been in New York. Nothing panned out. We ended up doing a really great show. I only got one complaint who was probably a nice person who said, you know, the advertisement said guests, not guest. Oh. And so, and I'm disappointed and I wish I had seen the second show instead. Other people were saying, oh, I thought the first show was great and I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It sounds like it was great. It was pretty amazing. With Paul doing it. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, that's the luck of an improv show. It's the luck of the draws. Where were the shows? Skirball Center at NYU.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Now, we never specified a time. I'll have you know. We may have in email form. Are you looking up all of your emails? God. The show needs more of you looking up things all right anyway while you're doing that let me talk about what's happening here okay because we on our last episode said this week we were going to do broadway spider-man hey spider-man Hey, Spider-Man, turn off the dark. Not in email form either.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Okay, I apologize. I apologize. Look, I'm a bad friend. Yep. I'm right. Do you feel better being right? Yes. Or do you feel kind of small for having pointed that out?
Starting point is 00:16:42 I feel a little small for having pointed that out i feel a little small for having pointed it out and i feel a little shitty about uh making everyone work at nine o'clock rather than seven it's quite all right i we did not again much like my excuse in new york i had to anyway who cares you have children who cares we're lucky that you're here at all. Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Pizza pie. All right. So. So, we were going to do Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark. Right. But you alerted me to the fact that Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark is actually chronologically later than No Line on the Horizon. Right. You alerted me to the fact that Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark is actually chronologically later than No Line on the Horizon. Right. At the very least, the record is chronologically later.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah, the show opened, I believe, in 2011. Mm-hmm. I saw it in 2011. I saw a preview, but it had been previewing for three months prior to me seeing it right we'll get to the story of that musical but they started working on it like they started working on it before no line on the horizon so so chronologically it's a little a little smudgy a little fudgy murky a little plurky but we going to do No Line on the Horizon instead first because we're going strictly chronological and we're going to do that. And by the way, we are also trying to do research on Spider-Man, which we have not completed yet.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So we're both reading the book Song of Spider-Man, the Inside Story of the Most Controversial Musical in Broadway History written by the person who wrote the book to the musical. So we're both reading that and currently in it. So we're going to put that one off for a bit. Broadway history written by the person who wrote the book to the musical. So we're both reading that and currently in it. So we're going to put that one off for a bit. Are you enjoying the book like I am? Yes. Well, I have no idea. Who knows how you're enjoying the book?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Well, I'm enjoying the book. I'm not talking about the point of view of the book or the contents of the book. Are you merely saying that are you enjoying the book? I am merely saying- Why do you have to throw- Like I am. Who cares what you do? I'm merely- Just ask me if I'm enjoying the book.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Are you a living person like I am? God, why are you bragging about being a living person? You grow hairs out of your- Above your eyes like I do. Oh, above my eyes. Do you grow eyeballs on top of your presently existing eyeballs? Do you have eyeball stacks like I do? Is that what happens?
Starting point is 00:19:11 You keep growing like new eyeballs on top of your eyeballs? As long as a person lives, more eyeballs grow on top of the ones that they previously had, and then the old ones lop back into their head and go down and you swallow them when you're sleeping. Ugh. Only when you're sleeping. Did you not know this? I did not know this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Every night, your eyeballs regenerate themselves. Every night? And then you poop them out and they swim down under your house. What? What? And they turn into cancer cells that infest themselves into the gophers that live in the ground under your house. Oh my god, this sounds like this is an episode of Science Bros. I think it is. Science!
Starting point is 00:19:59 Hey, welcome to Science Bros. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And we're talking about eyeballs. So eyeballs are the most curious part of the human body. What do you think, Scott? I think they're by far the most fascinating part of the human body. People have called them windows to the soul. Hey, how about the things you see with?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Let's just start there. How about telescopes of the head? Okay, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I wish that eyes were like telescopes. You ever think about that of the head? Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, I wish that eyes were like telescopes. You ever think about that? I think about that every day. And it would be great because you could be like, oh, is there a man on the moon?
Starting point is 00:20:36 And then you just go, oh, nope. No man there. Not tonight. Not tonight, honey. Let's go to bed. And every night before you go to bed with your wife, you would check on that. Yep. Here's something I wonder, and I was asking this the other day.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Why can't eyelids, which are the nightshades of the body, why can't they be like vertical blinds? Oh, that would be so neat. You know what I mean? Just like turn a thing and they like flip open and then you can see through slats. Yeah, you can shut up. I know what you mean. I think it would be cool. You turn them, the vertical blinds flip, and then you could look through them at your neighbor's.
Starting point is 00:21:16 At your neighbor's eyes. Yeah, and your neighbor's doing the exact same thing through his eyelids. Why is it his? What do you mean? I'd be looking at hers man oh shit all right this is science bros twins good episode that was pretty good medically factually correct yeah um okay before we go on i gotta talk about something okay This is a music podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yep. This is about you two. Yep. And I know independently of one another, on Saturday evening, you and I were in the exact same place. You and I were at the Hollyweird Bowl with a lot of the other fruits and nuts. Yep. And we were seeing the U2 of New Jersey, Billy Joel. J.Forson.
Starting point is 00:22:13 J.Forson? J.Forson. J.Forson. No, I was seeing Billy Joel. Oh, I saw Billy Joel. Oh, who did you see, though? J.Forson was there? I saw earlier in the evening.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I went down to a club. You went to two concerts? A club down in Inglewood and saw J.G. Forson. J.G. Forson? What's he like? He's kind of like spoken word, but also rock, but also jazz, and also tap dancing, but also modern freeform dance. What? J.G. Forson.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You'll hear about it if you haven't heard about it. No, it's... He pulls it together? It that's horrible no it's it's he pulls it together it is horrible but it's also great oh you like i mean it's great but it's also super bad oh but then it's bad and it's also really good can you sing one of his songs for me um yeah i mean i can try okay i mean you're no Jiggy Forsen. Okay. Um, this one's called I blame you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I blame you. I blame you. Oh, there's the jazz part of it. Yeah. It all, it's all, it's a bunch of different stuff at the same time. What was that face you were making? Was that what Jiggy does? Well, Jiggy, uh, Forsen, he makes all kinds of faces oh that's why his first album was called all of my faces okay yeah how many faces is he like an impressionist is that what you mean he
Starting point is 00:23:35 does he makes three expressions oh okay so he but each expression is like 27 expressions oh okay so the one you were doing looked like an overgrown baby who was shaking his rattle at his mother yeah that's what that expression that's what that is yeah okay and what are the first ep was called that really yeah it was an ep an ep and an extended play yeah interesting what and uh when did his first ep come was that that before his first album? When did it drop? Yeah. May 2012, I think. But it was also like his last album in a way. Oh, okay. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:10 This guy sounds fascinating. He's very interesting. How much were tickets? $400. Whoa! But they were also free? In what way? I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:24:20 Well, if it's experiential, then it's free. Okay. But monetarily, it's well, if you if it's experiential, then it's free. OK, but monetarily, it's four hundred dollars. OK, but that's not a lot of money to a guy like you, right? Well, it is, but it also isn't. Do you when you spend money on something? Do you often think about what you could be spending money on your children instead? Like like food that goes into their mouths. Do you think about that at all?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like when you go see Billy Joel, tickets were expensive. Right. Do you think about the things you could be buying instead? Or does some stuff have to be just for you? I think it's important, Scott, to take time for yourself. I mean, I know those of you out there in podcast land or whatever we call you, some of you are parents, some of you aren't. I'm guessing those of you who are parents kind of, you know, run up against the same problems that I do, which is,
Starting point is 00:25:19 when do I take time for me? Justicular swelling? What? Scott, if you speak again, while I'm trying to explain something important to our listeners, I will fucking take you apart. I apologize. I totally apologize. I know this means a lot to you. It was very rude of me. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's totally fine. It's absolutely fine. Thank you. I was just, it was just a warning. Okay, a shot across the bow. A shot across the bow, and see, now it's gone. Like, I expressed myself, I'm fine. Sure, okay, great.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So, won't happen again. It's done. Feel free, it's done. It's out there. If we put my hands on an e-meter right now, we would see no aggression whatsoever. Do you, are you, did you become a Scientologist? Just in the, since I walked in the building i became a scientologist by the way we're taping this from the new earwolf studios which is uh in the heart of the scientology building yep the celebrity center
Starting point is 00:26:16 um it's great and you can't come and record here unless you become a scientologist yeah but i found out when i got here tonight it's great though it's fun it's great it's so. Yeah, but it's great. Which I found out when I got here tonight. It's great, though. It's fun. It's great. It's so good, isn't it? It's great. I've spent so much money on it. It's great. Yeah, how much money have you spent? Because you've been a Scientologist for how long? Just, well, I mean, I've been a Scientologist now five weeks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Five weeks. How much money have you spent? Just to get in the door, it was $5,575. Okay. That's just to get in the door. See's a lot of money i mean is it though well when you think about the afterlife right i mean you know these bodies we're in they're not going to last forever vessels but yeah these spaceships i call it a spaceship see i'm new to all this so i don't have all the terminology sure sure sure. What? And so, okay, so that's just to get in the door.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Now, total, what would you say you've spent in the five weeks you've been a part of this? $8,936,000. Okay, see, to me, yeah, that's a lot of money. But you think about the return. The return on that investment, because it is an investment. It is. It's an investment not only for your future, but for the future of all beings. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Because they're going to need a leader someday. Yeah. And we can be that leader. Both of us? Yeah. Well, I think that my body is going to kind of meld into yours and become one. Oh, like you mean like we're going to fuck each other. Oh, so we fuck each other
Starting point is 00:27:45 And then you just kind of stay inside me And then we become one being That's part of Scientology Is that what happens? That's becoming clear You have a penis permanently in your butt? Yeah, of course Oh, Jesus
Starting point is 00:27:58 Is that alright? I spent eight million to get there I hope it's alright Well, I don't think I can say it's not all right while I'm in this building. So, yeah, that's all right. All right. Before the podcast ends, it's going to happen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Great. Did you want to explain something about your kids? No. Ah, yeah. Forgot about them, right? So, Billy Joel. Billy Joel. So, what did you think?
Starting point is 00:28:25 What? Hey, man. What'd you think? Hey, man. What did you think? Hey. Hey. Hey, man. What'd you think? You know what? This is my first time seeing Billy live.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Me too. I will say this. He's the original Piano Man. You will. Not only will you say that, you said that. I certainly did um it actually for me where were you sitting by the way we had uh seats pretty far back um not as good as yours i'm sure i'm sure how did you you you but this why are you sure of that okay here's why and this
Starting point is 00:29:01 is what i was thinking when he started. Did he play My Life? No, he didn't. He did not. He did not. But I started thinking about the song My Life, and I realized you just worked with him in your TV vanity project. What was it called? It's called Adam Scott is the King of the Universe. Why would you call that a vanity project?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Well, it's because it's all about you, and you're playing yourself, and it's all about, like it's all about like hey look at all my funny friends yes like look at all the people i hang out with that's right and um you know plus also it's just like raking in the dough for you yeah i mean i know i know you can see right through me but you just worked with him in your thing yeah your greatest event greatest event the bosom bosom bosom bates bosom booties um and he was in that and i thought you know what greatest event in television history oh jesus uh i just said greatest event as if it's something that everyone yeah that you can shorthand well that's what happened with parks and Rec immediately. Yeah, but that's on a – that, you know, people – you know, millions of people have seen that. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Well, so you do the little things and the things millions of people have seen. Scott, I'm like the type of actor that – do you have a few minutes? Okay. I like to do different things. Different things. Sure, you can do the stuff that's commercial and the stuff for like millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people. But then you want to take stuff that's just for like hundreds. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people. But. Right. Then you want to take stuff that's just for like hundreds of thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Right. Like 900,000 people. Right. You know? And that's for me. That's for you. That's for me. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Mm-hmm. But I thought that maybe you could call up Billy and be like, oh, Billy, Billy. Hey, Billy, Billy. And say, hey, bro, just had you in my show. Give me the front row seats. Give me front row seats, bro. Did that happen? We had very nice seats.
Starting point is 00:31:29 How did you get them? We got them through Billy Joel's people were very, very nice and gave us nice seats. were very, very nice and gave us nice seats. So my assumption was correct, that this cameo in your little thing then parlayed itself into nice Billy Joel tickets. They were very, very lovely, nice people. They were really cool. So they were great seats. Yeah. We were in the back.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That's the difference between you and me yeah yeah i guess it is and i i i'm just gonna say i'm comfortable with that yeah i bet you are i bet you are but i'm the underdog they weren't like it it's funny i don't know i think that artists feel like here we go they're like i i don't know i've i've kind of i've heard before that like musical acts feel like the best seats musical acts they feel like the best seats at places like that aren't like right up front the best seats because are like like what do you think at the hollywood bowl where would you like to be most? I'll tell you what. Like right up front? I've sat in the very back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And I've sat in the very front, literally front row. Yeah. Front row's always better, bro. Oh, okay. It's so much better. Well, of course. But if you're looking
Starting point is 00:32:56 at a big show like the Billy Joel show, where would you think is the best place to sit? I'd say front row. Front row center. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Oh, okay. I think so, at the hollywood bowl especially it's just why is that there's it's such a big place yeah that even if you start going back like to row 30 yeah then you're so far back already like i think the front row there is amazing i think it's great i've never been in the front row there. But I find with those giant shows, I've been to a couple things. Pop Mart was one of them where I remember- You appreciated the distance. No, I spent a bunch of money and bought third row seats, and it was too close.
Starting point is 00:33:40 That show is designed to be seen. To be far back, yeah, yeah. This was not one of those, I thought. All that happened was the piano, Billy was radiating on the 88. It would revolve. Right, that's true. That was about the only visual thing. They had big screens.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Who gives a fuck? Okay. If you're in the front row, you're seeing what's on those screens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who gives a fuck about your big screens? Yeah. Like, think about this. No, I'm thinking. Think about what you're seeing what's on those screens yeah yeah yeah yeah who gives a fuck about your big screens yeah like think about this no i'm thinking think about what you're saying i got it so i noticed that uh your wife took a picture if you'd been in the front row she could have taken a picture of billy joel instead she took a picture of the screen she did yeah that's and put it on instagram that's how close you guys were. Like, take a picture of Billy Joel.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Don't take a picture of the giant screen. That's funny. So you could have been closer, I think. But that's – so now – They were lovely seats. They were great. For me, up until the Encores, that was my ultimate Billy Joel, like what I would want in a set list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It was great. So many deep cuts yeah um deep cuts that sent some of the audience scurrying like where's the orchestra and where's the orchestra yeah uh vienna is one of my favorites of all time great he played two of my all-time favorites he played um vienna and uh then he played uh oh, now I'm blanking on one of my all-time favorites, but from the Cold Springs Harbor. I would have voted for for
Starting point is 00:35:12 what was the other one he gave? The choice between Vienna and Yes, and I was with Casey Wilson. She was going out of her mind for the other one. Oh, Summer Highland Falls. Summer Highland Falls falls that's the one i would i voted for now i they're both great but vienna is one of my favorite songs of all time
Starting point is 00:35:31 so i had i had to go crazy for vienna and yeah you know uh cast a paul over the evening with casey she was bummed she was a little bummed but no she loved loved it. I mean, it was great. She was one of those people who was standing up every song going, Right. Woo! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, he played Zanzibar. Zanzibar. I love Zanzibar.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I would say every fourth song was a hit. Now, he's got so many hits that he could have done the entire show with hits. He played, I think it might be my favorite Billy Joel song. And I can't remember the fucking name. Yeah, why can we not? We weren't prepared to talk about Billy Joel. I'm looking up my favorite. Fucking, I have all the songs right here.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Here we go. Cold Spring Harbor album. My favorite is Everybody Loves You Now. Of course. Oh, yeah. That's one of my favorites. Everybody loves you. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So many great songs. He played, he opened with Miami 2017. That's, I mean, right there. Come on. So great. Yeah. Then he actually went into a hit, right? Pressure.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah, Pressure, which is, for a hit, it still is kind of not one of his most well-known. Yeah, I mean, it's on that Greatest Hits album, which is the third best-selling album of all time. So, okay. But still. But still, it's not like Piano Man or Uptown Girl or something. Uptown Girl. And then Everybody Loves You Now and then Vienna. Vienna.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And then Zanzibar. I mean, if you know Billy Joel, if you only know his hits, you're kind of going, what the fuck are you talking about? But the fans were freaking out. Freaking out. Now, during Zanzibar, did like 20 people around me get up and go to the snack room? Yes. Snack room? The snack.
Starting point is 00:37:30 There's one room at the Hollywood Bowl, and they have snacks. Yeah, around us, too, people were getting up during Zanzibar. But Zanzibar is great. Great song. I got a jazz guitar. I wanted to hear Stiletto, too. That's one of my favorites. And then he followed that up with Billy the Kid.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Billy the Kid. Okay, from a really super early album, his sort of like Western pastiche. Yeah. I mean, this is like all deep cuts at this point. It's fantastic. Then Where's the Orchestra? Where's the Orchestra is great. Now, Where's the Orchestra, the orchestra i thought okay if you know
Starting point is 00:38:05 this record the nylon curtain by the way you're listening to you talking you too to me um the last song is where's the orchestra it's this wonderful ballad with an orchestra and they fade out while playing sort of uh a reprise or at least the melody, the top line of Allentown. Right. So it fades out. That's the last song on the record and it fades out with da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da in town with it. That was awesome. Yeah. I think he said on Howard Stern once
Starting point is 00:38:45 that Where's the Orchestra is like one of those songs that he just loves that he wished could have was a was more well known
Starting point is 00:38:53 was a hit. Right. Like he feels like it could have been like That's interesting because it's I don't know that it could have been a hit
Starting point is 00:39:01 because it is it's like a It's a beautiful song but it's like a Tin Pan Alley song in a way. And I think Nylon Curtain know that it could have been a hit because it is it's it's like a it's a beautiful song but it's like a tin pan alley song yeah and i think the nylon curtain is his favorite album of his is that is that true really i think he said that on stern as well that that's like you know you think maybe you when you fucking know maybe you come back um then he played the entertainer I am the entertainer Which is semi well known
Starting point is 00:39:27 Because it was on his greatest hits But still isn't like one of the huge huge huge ones But then he played a song He had not played live since the 80s Oh But this is a hit though But he had never played it live or something No he had played it live but not since the 80s
Starting point is 00:39:44 Like I just fucking said, you weren't listening. Say Goodbye to Hollywood. Fucking hell. What was that? Say Goodbye to Hollywood. It was awesome. Yeah, it was great. Now, that is a really well-known song,
Starting point is 00:39:59 but that's crazy to hear that he had not played it in so long. I know. And he's like, maybe we'll mess it up. I don't know. You know, like his New Jersey. And it sounded perfect. Yeah, perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And then New York State of Mind. Okay, now we're segwaying into the hits. But still, I like New York State of Mind. No, but after New York State of Mind, there's another not really a hit that I was so excited about. Is it, she's just fantasy? Yeah, sometimes a fantasy. Sometimes a fantasy. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking, no one knows that song. I fucking love that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my favorite Billy Joel album is Glass Houses. Glass Houses, that's a good one. Well, I, yeah, I love, of course, The Stranger, I think. Yeah, I played that album the other day, and I think it's nine songs.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah, no problem. I played it on my iPod. Okay, great. Yep. Good story. No, actually, it wasn't my iPod. Sorry, my Apple TV. Fine.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Played it through that into my stereo system. Okay. Great. All right. Good for you. It wasn't a big deal. Kudos. No, it wasn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:41:03 But I did that. Okay, all right. And it's one of those albums But I did that. Okay, all right. And it's one of those albums that's like sports. They're all hits. Sports. Oh, can we talk about sports for a minute? Is it time to talk about sports? I feel like we've talked way too much about sports.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Okay, and then after sometimes a fantasy movie. Fantasy. Moving Out. I'm moving out. Great. And then Always a Woman. See, now we're into hits territory, but it's still like- But then Don't Ask Me Why, which isn't like-
Starting point is 00:41:33 That's a hit though, I would say. Yeah, that's I think my favorite Billy Joel song. Why? Don't ask me why. Either that or Everybody Loves You Now or Miami 2017 you know what
Starting point is 00:41:48 I have a really deep cut favorite song of his I don't care okay and then River of Dreams that to me that
Starting point is 00:41:57 it's an okay song but that could have been excluded because he didn't play anything from Uptown Girl meaning that record Innocent Man he didn't play anything from uptown girl on meaning uh that record uh innocent man he didn't play anything innocent man i like innocent man though i like innocent man too but but i i loved what this concert was it was just like all early album deep cuts yeah he didn't play anything
Starting point is 00:42:18 from innocent man on except for he played river of dreams i like that song i like that song but i still was kind of like oh oh, that's the one thing that doesn't really... No, what were you going to say is your favorite? Oh, thank you. No problem. I mean, I'm in the middle of this,
Starting point is 00:42:32 but go ahead. Lullaby, Goodnight My Angel. Oh, yeah. That's a really great song. That's such an amazing song. I think he's been playing that on his tour. Has he been playing it really?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. I love that song. That's from his last record. Most people don't know that song. From River of Dreams. Yeah. And it's... It's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's a lullaby to his daughter at the time. It's just a beautiful, beautiful song. So after River of Dreams, he played Scenes from an Italian Restaurant. Great. Oh, man. Look, Bottle of Red? Bottle of White.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Whatever you're in the mood for tonight. That's just an endlessly great song. Yeah, that's fantastic. And then that was the end of... No, then Piano Man. Oh, then he did Piano Man, of course. And then everyone's like swaying and holding. Yeah, it was pretty rad.
Starting point is 00:43:21 It was pretty cool when Brenda and Eddie waving goodbye and the whole crowd waves. I was not part of that. We were too far back. Yeah. And then he comes back from- By the way, we should mention he left the stage after that. He left the stage. The crowd-
Starting point is 00:43:40 In case you're confused, yeah. He left the stage. Crowd was clapping pretty continuously. And yelping and hollering and whistling. He took that to mean people enjoyed the show. Yep. And what he thought he would do is return to the stage giving the fans a little extra treat. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And Encore. Encore. Came back. Came back. Did his Encore for the Encore and played Still Rock and Roll to Me. Did his encore. For the encore and played still rock and roll to me. Mm-hmm. Which it was. Still is.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Still is. According to him. Then he played Big Shot. According to Jim. Big Shot. Big Shot, yes. I heard you. Big Shot.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Okay. And then he played You May Be Right. Uh-huh. And Adam Levine. Oh, okay. Who is the other guy that came out? I was too far back. I couldn't see.
Starting point is 00:44:31 By the way, at this point. No, but they're giant video screens. Okay, I will tell you what happened. At this point, everyone rose to their feet. Yeah. When you're as far back as I was, everyone's on a bench. Yeah. And basically, everyone.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Wow, you were really far back then. Yeah. bench yeah and basically every you were really far back then yeah everyone crowded to where i had to if i was standing i would have to be like turned to the side and trying to squeeze in and i just was like fuck this so i just sat down you mean to see the screens yeah to see the screens yeah so i couldn't really see i saw adam levine with his weird blonde hair came out but i didn't know there was another there was There was a guitar player, and I didn't know who it was. Was it Slash? No.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Was it The Edge? No. Oh, wait, it was The Edge. And then they closed with Only the Good Die Young. Yeah. I mean, the encore's maybe a little obvious, but that's what you do with an encore. But up till the very end, just love you may be right flawless to me
Starting point is 00:45:28 yeah no i love all those songs in the encore i just think that that the encore was what one would expect a billy joel show to be throughout the entire thing he could have played his entire greatest hits catalog yeah and instead is not is doing these shows where he's showing the amazing breadth of his catalog i give the show a c plus i say people should go see it above average is a c plus above average uh-huh yeah c is, wow. So my ringing endorsement, C+. Wow. It's because it sounded like you really enjoyed yourself. Yep, C+.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah, that's what I mean. What happens if it's an A+, does your head explode? I've never seen an A-plus show. Oh my God, you're impossible. So you are listening to You Talking U2 to me. We're breaking down No Line on the Horizon. And the Billy Joel concert. And the Billy Joel concert. And the Billy Joel concert.
Starting point is 00:46:27 But did you guys have a great time? Yeah, it was great. It was great. I had never seen him play before. Neither had I. We were the great people. Like I mentioned, Casey Wilson. And we saw that Paul Scheer was there somewhere in there.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I saw Kate Micucci. And I knew you were there from Naomi's Instagram feed. And so I knew I had to bring it up, bro, so we could break down. And you did. And we broke it down. Broke down every song. And people are fucking going crazy at home right now because we did it. People are going, like, out of their minds.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Out of their fucking minds, bro. People are like, I can't believe they broke it down. The YouTube bros talked about Billy Joe. By the way, I thought it was Billy Joe from Green Day when I bought the tickets, so I was a little disappointed. Yeah, I bet. Yeah. That is a disappointment.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. We got to take a break. Yeah, man. When we come back, we're going to break down No Line on the Horizon as only this podcast could with words and sentences. In English. And sounds. Are we going to go track by track?
Starting point is 00:47:43 Yeah, we can go track by track. Let's do it. Track by to go track by track? Yeah, we can go track by track. Let's do it. Track by track. Track by track. So, guys, track by track, when we come back, you talk to YouTube to me. Bye. Hey, welcome back to You Talking U2 to M-E. You two talking to-to to me.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I'm Scott. It's super late at night at this point. It's 1014. We just took an extended break ourselves in between the first act and the second act. So it is getting super late for us. And hopefully you are listening to this on your way to work. You're up. You're bright.
Starting point is 00:48:34 You're fresh. You've had a cup of good morning America. Cup of Joe. Did you say couple Joe? Couple Joe. Could you get me a couple Joe? There's a couple that just walked in. They were both named Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Couple of fruits. Couple of fruitcakes. Look, listen to me. Yes. We're talking about no line on the horizon. We've been talking about it for an hour at this point. No line on the horizon yes now let's get into it okay yes do i have your permission yes yes what do we have to say about
Starting point is 00:49:15 no line on the horizon um let's give let's give some background yeah okay let's talk about when it came out. 27 February 2009. Two thousand nine. The longest break in between U2 albums in history. Until. Until now. Until now. They had not put out something until – what am I trying to say? Their previous record was How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb in 2004, five years in between records.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And they come out with this one, No Line on the Horizon. A lot has changed in the musical climate. A lot has changed in the musical climate. Yeah, and in between, in that break, they recorded with Rick Rubin. This is when that happened. Oh, yeah, maybe we should talk about the Rick Rubin sessions and play. There's only been two songs released from those sessions. That's right. Let's play one of them right now.
Starting point is 00:50:23 those sessions that's right let's play one of them right now when window in the skies is that what this is called what do you think of this song i like it me too it's not like on heavy rotation for me but i like it sounds pretty good yeah for me but I like it sounds pretty good yeah the shackles are undone the bullets quit the gun bullets quit the gun will keep us when there's none the rule has been disproved the stone it has been moved the grain is now a groove.
Starting point is 00:51:06 All deaths are removed. We can't play this whole song for rights issues. But anyway, you get the picture. Is it if you play a whole song, you have to pay for the rights? Is that something like that? Huh. Who knows? But yeah, here's what happened.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Okay, so they make How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb 2004. Big hit for them. Wins tons of Grammys. We talked about it on one of the last episodes. You love it. Your favorite U2 record, even though you hate about half of it, it seems. And then they make this Greatest Hits album, and they got to put a couple of new songs on it. They working with rick rubin because you know what he's got the magic touch yep he's got the red hot chili peppers he's got slayer joanie cash joanie cash but um now as far as rick rubin goes yeah i i've heard conflicting reports from people about if he's
Starting point is 00:52:08 any good i have no idea you mean like his method his method his method yes did you say method method method um i've heard reports that he just sits around on a couch and makes his engineer do everything yeah i've heard that it's a very kind of esoteric way of producing an album like he he just sort of says just play the song right and then then you play it and he goes yeah yeah stuff like that and i've also heard with some artists he's not even there i have heard that like he just has his people doing it and then he'll come in every for an hour or he's listening remotely in his house right live he can hear it yeah or he's doing remote viewing yeah what's that remote viewing is like
Starting point is 00:52:57 a psychic thing where you are visual anyway never mind it up. Read a fucking book for once in your goddamn life. Instead of being a TV star coasting on your good looks. Thank you for saying I have good looks. He, whatever it is, I like a lot of the stuff. I love that Dixie. It's a recipe for success. Sugar to taste. Will you shut up for a second? That Dixie Chicks album that he produced was terrific.
Starting point is 00:53:25 All right. Really? It's great. They're traitors. You know what? You're right. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I forgot that they're traitors to America.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I don't. You know what? I like certain like real country type stuff, Loretta Lynn and Dolly Parton and stuff like that. But for some reason, I just have never been able to get into like kind of half country people. Yeah. I mean this album is very sort of pared down. By all accounts, they're great. I know they do a Neil Finn song.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They're like buddies with him. It sounds like – I'm sure it's great. So I bet that record is good um i like those johnny cash records i love the tom petty album he did so but run dmc he seems to be very busy but i would imagine U2, he's not sitting in his house remotely working. I would imagine he was there. Maybe he's hands-on.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Okay, here's what I read about their sessions with U2. Because at the time, they were going to make the entire record with him. Right. And it was going to be like a live in the studio record, right? And it was going to be the Rick Rubin magic touch. And they were going to follow it up. And they started these sessions, and they did these two songs. They did The Window in the Skies, which I just played, and then they did the duet with Green Day, The Saints Are Coming, which is a cover of a punk song, which is fine for what it was. Yeah, it was kind of weird like two bands playing
Starting point is 00:55:06 a song at the same like together like the whole bands right yeah it was i liked it it was i like it but it's kind of disposable in a way yeah so they're gonna make this record with rick rubin and what i heard was he said okay I'll make this record with you. Leave old sourpuss out of it. Did he really say leave Brian Eno? You got a new man, me. I'm your ticket to the top. Ride on the Rick Rubin freight train.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga to stardom. Is that a direct quote? Yes, of course. No, but did he really say like? No, no, no. I think these guys were like, you know what? We've had it with old sourpuss. Is that a direct quote? Yes, of course. No, but did he really say like- No, no, no. Oh, okay. I think these guys were like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:47 We've had it with old sourpuss. That's a direct quote. We need a new sound or direction. We need a weird beard. Yeah. No, but what he said was, cool, come to the studio with all of your songs already written and worked out.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Oh, right. U2 hates doing that. Yeah, they don't do that. They don't do that. Homie don't play that in the old two. In the parlance of the times. Yeah. What they like to do,
Starting point is 00:56:15 we've probably talked about it on this show a few times, is they like to jam. They're twiddling their knobs, their dicks. Yeah. And they pick up their instruments They're dicks. Yeah. And they pick up their instruments. They're dicks. Yep. And then they go over and grab their guitars.
Starting point is 00:56:30 They're dicks. So, no, they sit around and they like, Edge will try a chord and is... D chord, D chord, D chord, D chord, D chord. And then Adam Clayton comes in. Meanwhile, Larry Mullins. And then you got Bono. Bono, what he'll do is he'll like sort of, as they put it, he'll sing bong leaves.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Right. It's like a gibberish. Gibberish. He sings gibberish or like little snatches of words that are meant to, like whatever feeling the song gives him. To find the melody. To find the melody, okay? So like, yeah, or whatever he does.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Can you imagine being a producer sitting there at the beginning of what you've heard could take six months, but could also blow up into a six-year recording process sounds like fucking torture and to know that edge mixes his songs sometimes 187 to 500 times i don't know how this is my point with these guys they have too much money yeah they needed the constraints of like hey you only have a week to finish this thing. And then they bang it out. And I think they, like Pop, Rattle & Hum, and No Line on the Horizon now have scared the bejesus out of them.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And failure is just terrifying to them. Yes. So they are going to fiddle with this new, with their knobs and their instruments and their guitars, their dicks,
Starting point is 00:58:11 forever. I think the new record's never going to come out. I know. Because this last single, if it had been a hit, they would have went, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Absolutely. We know what we're doing, let's put it out. But because it didn't strike anyone's fancy necessarily, we liked it, we're fans, but look, they're getting it didn't um strike anyone's fancy necessarily we liked it we're fans but look they're they're getting up there yeah their fans are dying off we have a podcast about them we're super fans i don't know if they're dying but literally they're i bet a
Starting point is 00:58:36 youtube fan a youtube super fan dies every day one just died he He was waiting. I bet a YouTube superfan listens to this. I felt a disturbance in the force. I bet someone listens to this podcast and dies during it. I bet, for a fact, any time we put out a new episode of this, someone dies while listening to it. I bet that's just statistics. While listening to it?
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yes. On their iPod. Are you statistics. While listening to it? Yes. On their iPod. Are you saying that our podcast kills people? Yes. And you're next out there. Yeah, you, Adam. But there's such perfectionists that they go into the studio and record, apparently, an entire album's worth of material with Rick Rubin and then just throw it all in the garbage.
Starting point is 00:59:25 The old scrap heap. Now, I wonder if we'll ever get to hear those recordings. And then they keep saying, hey, we're going to put that stuff out as a companion record. They always talk about this. Yeah. We're going to put out a second record
Starting point is 00:59:37 like we did with Zoropa. Did they say they were going to put out the Rick Rubin stuff? I'm sure at some point they go, we'll put out all that stuff. Yeah. But what happens is I think they spend
Starting point is 00:59:48 too much money on the record. If it doesn't become a hit, they've sunk, like, how much do you think they spend on these records? Like 10 million or something? They just sink so much money into it, fiddling around, that if there isn't a hit, they can't just put out an experimental record anymore
Starting point is 01:00:03 and be like, hey, you know what? Hey, it wasn't a hit. Who cares? We only spent $500,000 on it. That's why leading up to the release of No Line on the Horizon, all they were saying in the press is how experimental it was. But then when it came time to actually come up with a track listing, they kind of like got rid of a lot of the experimental stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:23 There was a lot of bet hedging on this record. Okay, but let's talk about it. So they did these sessions with Rick Rubin. They junked them all. Or there's a conflicting report where they were, like Rick Rubin said, come with songs. I don't want to sit around while you fuck around forever. And they said, goodbye, Rick Rubin.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Oh, so there's another report that they never even recorded it? Let's see. He encouraged a back-to-basics approach, wanted to bring finished songs to the studio. They decided to end recording with Rubin. Though the material from these sessions was shelved, the band expressed interest in revisiting it in the future, of course. Of course. And they never did. So they say, see you later weird
Starting point is 01:01:08 beard see you later long hair what do they do international code um hello hello old sour puss Old Sourpuss? Yes, who's this? This is your lovable lads from Liverpool Hello guys, what's up? Do you want to frown for another four years on our album? Yes You're hired, we missed you You are the weakest link. Goodbye. So Brian Eno got into you are the weakest link references. Oh, he's all about it.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He loves those references. So they call up. Cody's so bummed right now. Cody, sorry you're here. They call up Eno. They call up cody's so bummed cody sorry you're here they call up you know they call up lanois as principal producers and co-writers and then they also bring in their buddy from back in the day steve lily white lily white hey buddy by the way um have you gotten those tweets that say the reason Uno Dos Tres Catorce, the reason they do that is because Steve Lillywhite produced the first, the second, the third, and the 14th album? That's insanity. Because it's not true.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's not true at all. Because No Line on the Horizon is their 12th album. Yeah. That's the wisdom of a fool. Stop tweeting us idiotic stuff. But tons of people tweeted that to me. Tons of people tweet a lot of stuff. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:51 People take severe umbrage if we don't like a song, too. I get tweets like, I'm disappointed in you. Yeah. Like, okay, person I've never heard of. Yeah, who cares? So they call him up they go you know what you fucking bummer of a person get back in here to the studio and get this ship running let's make another masterpiece so they get back with brian eno Daniel Lenoir. They go, strangely enough, Brian Eno, he's going to go to Fez, Morocco for this festival.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I don't know what he's doing there. It's a grumpy festival. Festival of grumps. Him and Oscar the Grouch. He goes, hello, boys boys want to come with me and you two you know never hearing of a place that they've never wanted to go go yep we're right behind you they get on the old vertigo plane yep and they go out there to morocco meanwhile they hear a lot they still fly in the vertigo plane yeah no they're the pilots of it oh jesus yeah um bono puts on the pilot's outfit and everything wow larry mullins puts on the
Starting point is 01:04:11 stewardess outfit wow yeah um they get out there to morocco they start hearing some cool local music and they go you know what this is it this is the right here. This is what our next record is going to be, which I think sounds cool. Yeah. You know? And they make a lot of songs that they describe as like new hymns. Yeah, which are songs that will be played forever, apparently. Yes. They do not lack hubris when it comes to that.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Songs that will be played forever. So they get really into, they record in the sort of center of this square, what would you call that? Well, it's an open air place. I assume there's walls. They ended up going back to film the video for Magnificent there, I believe. walls they ended up going back to film the video for magnificent there i believe so they film in this in this place in morocco and they film a lot of uh or they they record a lot of kind of not drone music but you know like sort of like chant type music you know which one of the songs that that most famously that they recorded there is of course and make sure this is a moment of surrender the third song third song on the seven minute and 22 so
Starting point is 01:05:40 this was apparently improvised this was all improvised. This was all improvised. Yeah. Adam Clayton, you hear when he drops in the bass, he's doing sort of a Grandmaster, Flash, and Melly Mel white lines type bass. And then he changes it in the middle to be slightly different. But yeah, this whole song is kind of improvised. One take. Not the vocal, though. Probably not. He probably recorded that eight million times
Starting point is 01:06:05 but this is all brian eno says he never saw anything like it in any session with any band how amazingly it all came together in this one take so here's the bass line i was talking about where does it change he changes it a little bit into it but you hear that like like the weird drum thing that was a malfunctioning drum machine oh yeah but it just sounded so cool they kept it in so this is where they're they're kind of like improv improvisatory anyway we're gonna stop it is paying off because they're just like sitting around jamming and it sounds cool um so they they they do a bunch of songs like that yeah they get back to wherever the fuck they go back to to Ireland. Okay, sure. And they listen to it all back, and Brian Eno goes,
Starting point is 01:07:11 hmm, doesn't really cut the mustard, does it? And it's Grey Poupon, of course. Of course. Fucking Eno with his Grey Poupon. He, like, drives up in a limo, rolls down the window to tell them, back to work, boys. Drives up in a limo, rolls down the window to tell them, back to work, boys. So they go back to work, but they ended up using kind of the basic tracks from a lot of those.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, they used some of it. Those Morocco songs. But a lot of the more experimental stuff, they junk, and they go, you know what? But I remember when No Line on the Horizon came out, they said they're going to release this album, Songs of Ascent, later that year, which is going to happen. Songs of Ascent of a Woman.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yes. And Al Pacino is going to be on the album cover. The song titles were going to be Hooah! Yeah. And they keep pulling me back in. But what's another catchphrase from Scent of Woman? I think that's the only one there is. No, but there is something else like,
Starting point is 01:08:08 I smell a scent of a woman. Scent of a woman. That was a terrible Al Pacino impression. But that never happened. Apparently a whole other album's worth of experimental hymns. Oh, yes. Songs that will be sung forever. And they were going to follow this album up with that record.
Starting point is 01:08:29 They announced it a year later. They announced it was coming then three months from then. Yeah. And three months, and then it became... I'm sure if No Line on the Horizon was a big hit, they would have... They would have. Yeah. But here's...
Starting point is 01:08:40 It would have just been something that sold even less than No Line on the Horizon. Right, and they didn't... they you can sense them scrambling we'll talk about the reaction to it but you can sense them scrambling after this record of like you hear or you read a lot of quotes of bono saying what people want out of you too is fill in the blank like what he thinks people want now to hear people just want to hear a record he also said before the album came out if this isn't our best album we are irrelevant that was his big like um soundbite because he always has a yeah a mission statement for the record yeah and i think good it's good that he has these sound bites that are very um quotable to sell the eye catching yeah okay but that ended up being an
Starting point is 01:09:27 unfortunate one because because yeah you don't want to dare the audience like that you know even though i think it's good but it's it's uh it wasn't you know and it's not that experimental it is a bit but it's not it's kind of neither because i know you say get it together what are you fucking trying to say they work in these like three album cycles where one is uh really unique in a cool new direction yeah number two uh is kind of number two and then the third one is where everyone gets sick of it yeah yeah but this they i think conscious of that tried to do something new with the third one they did and we'll get to this but they did with the exception of the single yeah this the the the the first single is the everyone's Sick of It kind of thing. I think they thought it was going to be like an Elevation Vertigo type single.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Tell you what, we have to take a break. We've given you a lot of background. We've talked a lot of U2 to you at this point. Who could argue that we've done our jobs? Not even Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice of the United States. Not even Clarence Clemens. Nope. Saxophonist for Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Both of those guys passed away. Mm-hmm. Hey, maybe it's the Clarence curse. Yeah. Clarence Thomas is alive. Oh, really? Yeah. That's how much I care.
Starting point is 01:11:07 We have to take a break when we come back we'll talk about our experiences and our opinions of this record we'll be back talking two to two okay welcome back we talk about it every, the boots people are getting on, but here it is. Here's that single. Before we get into this, Adam, you went to what I call the bathroom. Yeah, during that break. What I call the bathroom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:44 During that break. I walked all the way down to, this is a long walk down a short pier. Down this long ass hallway. And I got all the way down there and realized I hadn't brought a key with me. Boy, that was stupid. Turned around, came back, grabbed the key, went to the ladies' room. There you go. Because it's much closer.
Starting point is 01:12:17 What's the difference between the ladies' room and the men's room, in your opinion? Men's room, the floor is soft. Some sort of silk plush material. Mm-hmm. Women's room, hard heated stone. Hmm. Stones. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:36 Yeah, it's like gravel on the floor. Hmm. I'm into it. I like it. Hmm. So it took me a while Because I was doing a lot of walking Yeah I'm walking here
Starting point is 01:12:50 So here we are January of 2009 And get on your boots I'm not ready to talk about this yet What are you doing? I was looking for this For the song? Adam, that's not funny I was looking for that
Starting point is 01:13:04 Took you a while Well no, Cody didn't have it turned up For the song? No. Adam, that's not funny. I was looking for that. Took you a while. Well, no, Cody didn't have it turned up. I played it at the right time after your dumbass story. Terrible story. Okay, so when that single came out, what happened with Scott Aukerman? Okay, let me clear my throat okay um i let's give our general opinion of this record okay how's that okay go ahead okay i think no line on the Horizon is actually a lot of a really great album. I really, really like a lot of this record.
Starting point is 01:13:50 I think it's far and away more of what I want out of a U2 record than How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb was in the sense of it really feels like they're trying to create a really interesting work of art. There's some experimental songs. It just has the feel of people trying to do something interesting again and not giving a shit about everything having to be a hit or anything like that. With the exception of three songs in the very middle of the record. Okay. of three songs in the very middle of the record okay and get on your boots the first single from
Starting point is 01:14:27 the record is by far for me the worst u2 song that exists oh really in this dimension they probably have written some terrible songs in other parallel universes okay okay but in this dimension the one we live in this is the worst you do the worst one okay i look we just heard a little bit of it i think the the opening guitar groove is actually pretty badass uh-huh every time i hear it i want to let's hear it one more time here we go yeah it's not bad it's a little like, hey, you liked Vertigo. Yeah, yeah. Let's give you this.
Starting point is 01:15:08 But then this starts here. Yeah. This is terrible. Not only that, but the title. Get on your boots. Get on your boots. And then the fact that he's singing sexy boots i know it's adam i know daddy i hate it why did they why did they do it i remember people saying it
Starting point is 01:15:35 sounds like that escape club song that's the other thing they have millions and millions of dollars and so many advisors and not one of them said hey bono this is the exact same song as escape club's the wild wild west do we have that i'm gonna look it up okay because while i do that because it and so i thought oh no it doesn't and then i i looked it up on youtube the escape club song and it is very similar. Yeah. I'm going to play that right. And that is not a good thing. No.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I mean – Because I remember in like 1988 being like, ugh, fuck you. That song sucks. Yeah. Here we go. This is – This is how to be a successful video director. Shut up, Escape Club.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Just play your song. When you make videos, it's quite... What is happening? Is there like a... This is a documentary about... There we go. Okay, hold on. It is.
Starting point is 01:16:38 It's the exact same song. It is. With the same like kind of... percussion, like cowbelly percussion. I know. know But you know I do like the chorus Which part Of
Starting point is 01:16:50 The Of get on your boots Get on your boots No no no Or is it the Here let's keep playing it a little bit Because it is like Five different songs
Starting point is 01:16:59 I think the chorus is cool I like this. But then you go see... Sexy boots. What is that? Yeah. It's nonsense. I like the video, too.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I think it's a cool video. Okay, here comes the chorus. Is it the... This part? Yeah, I like this. Yeah, kind of grungy. It's okay. Like, and then him coming in.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Right. That, I like that. That one part is kind of... You don't know. Yeah, it's catchy. That's okay. But it doesn't feel like anything else on the record, I have to say. Yeah, no, it like that. That one part is kind of... You don't know. Yeah, it's catchy. That's okay. But it doesn't feel like anything else on the record, I have to say. Yeah, no, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And I remember them, because the Grammys are in late February, and they came out and performed Get On Your Boots at the Grammys. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Trying to get people to like, hey, this is it. It was so bad. And it did not work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:04 And it looked a little embarrassing. It looked desperate. And the audience was like, hmm, hey, get on your boots. Like, leave our boots alone. It's like, we all have boots on. We're at the Grammys. Hey, look, we're wearing tuxedos and boots.
Starting point is 01:18:20 We put our fucking boots on. One boot at a time. So that came out and immediately just kind of landed with a thud and everyone said you know what oh i don't like you two anymore not only that it had been five years since their record that everyone liked and people bought vertigo five years i mean it's like five years ago we were listening to Britney Spears. Now we're listening to Spearmint Gum. What?
Starting point is 01:18:54 Britney Spears. Sorry, you were way ahead of me on that one. So, yeah, people are just like, oh, well, I guess I don't need to buy this record yeah i'm not a youtube fan anymore just like but the thing that kind of flummoxed me if i can use that cool word is that grandpa is that um they didn't rush magnificent out yeah like they fucking waited until the album was out they also kept trying to push get on your boots down people's throats but they they also they they can't do anything small like hey we have a record we've sunk millions and millions into it well the promotion has to be huge right so we're gonna do five nights in a row on the david letterman show yeah we're
Starting point is 01:19:42 gonna have the mayor of new y York name a street after us. Right. Like all this stuff that is not, it's, yeah, it's reminding you all U2 exists, but if you have a really great song, that'll do some of that work for you. Right. Like why not just go, oh, Get On Your Boots is tanking, let's just put out a single now. Is it because they didn't have a video ready? Like who cares?
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah. Even in 2009 videos no one was playing no one cares a lot of it is yeah uh the state of the music industry no one's buying records anymore so yeah so you know this record flopped in a lot of ways because any record would flop it still sold well it sold five million copies, which is a huge achievement. Sure. These days. But in any case,
Starting point is 01:20:29 I feel like it is, I think the first four tracks are great. I think then the last four are pretty great. Well, let's go track by track then. Sure. Okay, my general impression of the album is I think it's really good. Well, let's go track by track. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Fucking idiot. Okay, so here's the first first track which i think is just the i put on this record with low expectations because of get on your boots yeah i heard this track i'm like this is it's awesome this is the single to me this like if this had been the single but now here's where i come from that i'm an older u2 fan and this reminds me of something from Unforgettable Fire or that era. Yeah. I get excited
Starting point is 01:21:29 when I hear this. It sounds like a band, like it sounds like Joshua Tree in a way of just a band making a really cool song. And it has that big epic sound too.
Starting point is 01:21:37 But it's not them like imitating U2 or anything like that. This is No Line on the Horizon. Because it doesn't, it really doesn't sound like anything they've done. No, it doesn't at all. The melody is cool. Yeah. It's really cool. But somehow it harkens back
Starting point is 01:22:02 to their early days while still having modern touches i really liked it yeah it's it's a cool song he's singing at the top of his register which i really like where you know like i can imagine him singing this at live aid or something yeah what i mean although i have to say i think think I even prefer the other version. Yeah, I love that. The other version is pretty good, too. I can play it here if people want to hear it just for comparison.
Starting point is 01:22:38 It's really cool. This is the, as they call it, No Line on Horizon 2. It's more kind of like the demo version, I guess. Well, I don't even think it's the demo. I think they did two totally finished versions. See, this was the B-side to Get On Your Boots. So I thought this was the song. And then when I got the album, I was kind of surprisedside to Get On Your Boots, so I thought this was the song,
Starting point is 01:23:06 and then when I got the album, I was kind of surprised by that new version of it. So this is the first one you heard. That's why you like it better. Well, no, I think I kind of like the more kind of raw feeling of it. This kind of has like, oh, that's pretty cool. The do-do-do-do-do, the bass part of it. And then there's also that no not that they don't they don't do in the finished version but both versions are really good yeah yeah so i remember i got this record and i um i took it up to Tall John's Cabin up in Big Bear.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. And I just kind of sat down with it. We were up there for a weekend, and I just kind of played it on the CD player and sat down with it and listened to it. By the way, and Kulop was not into it. Yeah, I'm sure. And she was someone who really loved Beautiful Day
Starting point is 01:24:02 and went to those concerts and stuff, but she was not getting into it but which by the way i i mentioned tall john he wanted me to mention one fact because i've been staying with him for two months at this period that where we're sleeping the bed on which we are sleeping is your former bed really The bed, he tells me where your children were conceived. What? Is that true? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:24:31 What bed? A bed you gave him. Really? Yeah. He asked me to bring that up. He goes, if you ever run out of stuff to talk about on the show, tell him that you're sleeping on the bed
Starting point is 01:24:44 that he used to own that he gave me it it must have been a long time ago i think so yeah that's hilarious so anyway not the children i live with anyway other children so i took it up to the cabin and track one fantastic okay then we're going to track two this is magnificent yeah this is great too could have been the first single yeah it should have been it's so crazy but it's not dumb and obvious which is what they thought they needed after vertigo i actually still would have done the second single. What would you have done for a single?
Starting point is 01:25:29 I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy. The single version, the one they kind of remade. This is all cool. And then once it starts, that percussion that they recorded out in Fez sounds really cool right here. It sounds great. It's just huge. Yeah. Good top line up there.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Yeah. It's a good song. Yeah. We can't good song. Yeah. We can't play it all, obviously, but so far, as far as I'm concerned, two out of two. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Then we played a little bit of Moment of Surrender. That's the one they did in Fez.
Starting point is 01:26:18 We'll play a little bit of it right now. But that's a seven minute and-second song that's pretty cool and definitely unlike anything they've ever put out. And they used to close their shows with this because it's such a cool song. So my opinion of it at this point is a couple of good rockers that sound kind of like old U2, and then this kind of really interesting experimental beat that they've never done before like they're they're going for it as far as I'm concerned yeah Moment of Surrender to me isn't as kind of great as as it should be
Starting point is 01:27:01 making love to yeah I don't know it's it's really cool but there's something about it almost sounds like you remember soul to soul soul me me the band soul yeah soul there's something about that keep on moving don't stop no it sort of sounds. This drum beat to me just sounds like a little. It sounds a little like Enigma. Yeah. Like sadness. Yeah. Like it's just a little. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Okay. I love the melody he sings, and I like the song overall. I think it's really beautiful. The chorus is amazing. What I like about what he's doing with melodies on this is he's at the top of his register. Remember how old U2 songs he sounded kind of strained? Yeah, yeah. And the older he gets, I think the less he uses that.
Starting point is 01:27:53 But it sounds like he's doing a lot of that in this record, which I really like. Yeah, and the melodies are really good, too. Track four, Unknown Caller. This is a favorite of mine from the album i like this a lot it does sound a lot like walk on but i don't mind that and i think it's it's such a experimental song structurally that that is just a small part of the song i think the the walk-on similarity right what's cool is like a lot of these songs aren't starting until like right like second 30 sometimes it's like that's something that in the past two records they had to kind of hit you over the head with what the
Starting point is 01:28:37 song were like i like how they're making an artistic statement on this yeah which they haven't really done in a long time yeah and then but then when the songs kick in they have these big huge melodies which are really good so this has this whole intro with like yeah so far it's at second 50 nothing's really happened with it but other than it's like setting a mood which is really cool yeah i love this Yeah, I love this. This... This... This...
Starting point is 01:29:08 This... This... Produced by Eno and Lanois with additional production by Steve Lillywhite. And here it kicks in. And for the first time, Daniel Lanois got writing credit on some of these songs. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:30 I love the guitar on this song. All right, we can't play the whole thing, but like, yeah, we're at a minute 30 and not one lyric has been sung, which is kind of cool. 30 and not one lyric has been sung which is kind of cool so then then we get to my problematic portion of the record now you like i'll go crazy if i don't go crazy tonight i listen to it again today here's my opinion of it i think the melody is really good yeah i really actually like the song even though it's partially produced by will ii.am of the Black Eyed Peas. Yeah. That's a bummer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:09 But I think the melody is really good, but the lyrics are just so kind of stupid. I find that there's one phrase that bugs me, but other than that, I'm fine with it. I think it's like a bubblegum pop song the title though I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy tonight I don't know
Starting point is 01:30:30 the original title was just go crazy which I think is a lot better still like go crazy yeah come on grandpa yeah
Starting point is 01:30:38 here let's hear a little bit of it um sounds cool right there yeah do do do do do some of the lyrics though like Sounds cool right there. Yeah. Do, do, do, do, do. Some of the lyrics, though, like... Every generation has a chance to change the world.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah. What's the one about every girl has to go out with an idiot? I kind of like that lyric. Yeah, because you're a fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah, that's why. I like the melody, but I think the chorus is great. Can I play the single version? It's it's yep.
Starting point is 01:31:13 It's better. It's not produced by will. I am. Yep. He didn't expect it passing the cord over. It's a tradition. It's kind of endlessly funny. It doesn't really get funnier than that on this show.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Nope. All right. Did you find it? Yes, I did. And here it is. Or maybe. Fuck. It's supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:31:49 It's playing. Turn your phone up. It is. It's up all the way. Cody, is this your fault? Yeah. Cody's nodding yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Go ahead. That sounds terrible. Okay. Yeah. Oh, you hadn't plugged it in, Adam? No, it was plugged in. That sounds terrible. Okay, yeah. Oh, you hadn't plugged it in, Adam? No, I was plugged in. Oh, so that's an interesting, like, sort of almost acoustic guitar addition.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yeah, there's more guitars in it. It's less kind of Will.i.am-y. He's mixed a little further back, the vocals. It just sounds more like a band playing. It doesn't sound quite as electronic or anything. I really, I mean, that's the thing. I can listen to the song and not be like, oh, this sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:42 It just, this is where the record starts getting a little obvious to me. And I wish that the three songs in the middle of it weren't just kind of like stupid stupid yeah you know like if like if they had just done another draft of the lyrics on this one i just don't understand why they would make a song this blatantly commercial and not release it as a single until like six months after the album comes out. This is great. Also, I read some review when it came out. Maybe it was the Rolling Stone, I can't remember, but it was like, this is the first time that stuff that Bono had been saying in interviews and speeches wound up as lyrics in his songs. Ooh, really?
Starting point is 01:33:22 Yeah, like they, thank thank you he did it to me they they use some examples where oh yeah he said this in a few interviews this is like one of his quotes and now now it winds up in the song oh i don't know yeah so then you have get on your boots I don't know so then you have Get On Your Boots not a lot more needs to be said about Get On Your Boots
Starting point is 01:33:47 yeah then you have a song called Stand Up Comedy which I like again I think it's a cool riff
Starting point is 01:33:58 my favorite part of this song is the bridge I think it's pretty awesome that's my favorite thing the Red Hot Chili Peppers went under so I know what you're talking is the bridge i think it's pretty awesome that's my favorite thing the red hot chili peppers went under so i know what you're talking about the bridge
Starting point is 01:34:08 i think i think just call it something else yeah their titles they got very wonky with the titles yeah stand-up comedy is not a great title for me it, it's like, especially doing... Especially since that's not what the songs are. It's not about stand-up comedy. But also, it's almost like, you know, that's my job. It's like, you know, say you're a data processor and he were to write a song called Data Processing and got all the details wrong.
Starting point is 01:34:41 You'd be offended. Well, if not offended, just sort of annoyed. Server at Applebee's. Say you're a server at Applebee's, and he wrote a song called Server at Applebee's. You'd be annoyed by that. And it's all about being a server at Denny's. It's like they're way different.
Starting point is 01:35:01 No, but go forward a little bit. No. And play the bridge. No. Play play. Go forward a little bit. No. And play the bridge. No. Play the Red Hot Chili Peppers part. Is that after another verse and chorus? Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Okay, let's get to halfway through. Is this it? Oh, no, this is the end of the chorus again. Yeah, here it comes. This is kind of like... Too much like a Zeppelin song or something. Well, it gets more Zeppelin-y here. Right here.
Starting point is 01:35:40 There's this great 45 45 second chunk right here this is great this great little kind of Bass break What? Bass break Yeah, I guess that's not what you people actually called Well, you're calling a bass break cool? But, wait Right here It's 30 seconds away from the end of the song
Starting point is 01:36:23 That part where he goes Woo-woo I just think this is It's 30 seconds away from the end of the song. That part where he goes, Woo-woo! I just think this is... I think it's... It's kind of a great little underappreciated song. I think it's okay. It's not like the rest of the record, though.
Starting point is 01:36:39 No, not really. These three songs are atypical of the eight other songs, which I think are really great. So they stick out like a... But that's okay to have kind of a glossier little section of the album, don't you think? Bono said that it's in three sections. There's
Starting point is 01:36:56 the experimental section, the pop section, and then the section which takes them into new places they've never gone before. Oh, that's not really true. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:10 So that is stand-up comedy. I don't know. You don't like those three songs. I don't really like those three songs. I could do without them. I like – I like – I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy. I wish it was called something else.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Me too. I like those two songs I do not like get on your boots yeah get on your boots can get on my dick get up my butt and fuck off so then we have the last four songs this one is called Fez slash being born
Starting point is 01:37:42 and this is kind of an experimental instrumental piece a little bit that has the bridge part of Get On Your Boots, the let me in the sound, let me in the sound a little bit, which I don't mind all that much being in this kind of sound collage type thing. But you can tell they expected that to be a giant hit. Otherwise, they would not be referencing it in a later song. They actually thought, oh, sort of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:08 Billy Joel with Allentown. Right. In Where's the Orchestra? Right. They thought this might be the opening of the record at a lot of points. This? They thought this might, yeah, this might be the opening track.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I mean, I think this is fine. I don't know. I don't. I think they're trying something, which I like. Yeah. You know. I like that it harkens back to the Unforgettable Fire where there's like these weird instrumentals.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Yeah. And old Sourpuss is finally earning his paycheck. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of cool once it gets going. Right here. Yeah, this sounds cool. Yeah. I like it.
Starting point is 01:38:50 We can't play the whole thing, but it's kind of a cool palate cleanser after those three. This is the first time you're mentioning us not being able to play entire songs. Well, I think a lot of people complain about, they go, why do you only play 30 seconds of something? Well, we can't. We can't play the whole song. Otherwise, you two would sue us. It would be, you sue. I don't get it, but that's funny.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And their lawyers would not be working pro bono. We'd be on the edge of bankruptcy. Okay, so then we have Why the to snow which i think is such a simple beautiful song i dig it it's like there's there's not a lot of accoutrement on it there's not a you know they just like wrote a really simple powerful song yeah and they didn't feel like they need to dress it up with boots yeah it is a pretty song it is um the melt or the the music is actually a traditional song oh it is that they um arranged and then added lyrics to oh like a traditional irish folk song or something? Something like that. I'm not sure if it's Irish or not.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Let me read, let me read. The traditional Advent hymn, Veni, Veni, Emmanuel. Yeah, it's pretty. I can't say I reach for the song, really. Are you reaching for your dong? I reach for my dong more often say I reach for the song, really. Are you reaching for your dong? I reach for my dong more often than I reach for this song. I think it's cool, like, and especially where it is in the record. Do you listen to this song?
Starting point is 01:40:37 Like, when you listen to the record, you don't skip this? No, I like it. I always really respond to it. All right. With your dong sitting in your hand. Then we have Breathe, which kind of, I wonder why it's so late in the record. Yeah, because I think it's a great song. It deserves to be front-loaded a little bit.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I agree. Brian Eno thinks this is the best song they've ever recorded. Shut up, Eno. It is good, though. I mean, it's pretty awesome. Well, you want to know why? Because he produced it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Steve Lillywhite actually gets credited with this with additional production by Daniel Lenoir and Brian Eno. They were real specific with the credits on this album. Yeah, I wonder how did they break that up? Like, he did the
Starting point is 01:41:29 original sessions and then those guys come in and do it? I don't know. This is a really cool song, though. And on Letterman, the performance of this
Starting point is 01:41:38 was particularly great. Mm-hmm. This is kind of rocking, too rocking to be at the end of a record yeah it's weirdly sequenced but another really good melody like oh i don't like that good melody i really like it then Then you have the last track, Cedars of Lebanon. Another title that I'm not totally on board with.
Starting point is 01:42:13 But it's not dumb and obvious, like, I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy night or stand-up comedy. It's a little... What I like about this is it's a good album closer in the way of, like nice somber song is but i just love how it ends there's no fanfare like every song has been about these really long intros and then the record just ends without any warning it's a cool artistic statement can i take you to the end would you mind whatever i i wish they would end uh an album for once on a big closer, like if Breathe were the final song. I thought that would have been cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:52 This is the last part of this record. Adam Clayton's kind of the star of this album, I think. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends, gonna last with you longer than your friends. And it's over. That's it. Like normally a U2 record will like longer fade out or something. This was just like he says a couple of things and then like goodbye.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Yeah. We're done. I like this. I kind of feel like, I don't know, that song to me doesn't feel like an essential. Like they probably had something a little more song-like they could have put on the album. I don't know. Cedars of Lebanon was never a big favorite of mine. It's cool though.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I love the bass line. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And it's a story of a journalist. Isn't it from the point of view of a journalist? I don't care. So what we're left with is they took a big swing and did something more experimental, certainly, than their last two records.
Starting point is 01:44:20 We've talked about all that you can't leave behind is just purely like here. You know, they were experimenting with different types of songs they were writing, but it really was like song, song, song, song, single, single, single, single. This they're actually trying to make an album, which I really liked. And I sat with this record a lot, and I wrestled with Get On Your Boots and said, well, if I can skip past it, I like this record. and said, well, if I can skip past it, I like this record. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And I think the thing is, is now then it's been five years since this, over five. Yeah. Just put out some new stuff. Yeah. If they had to put out a record every year, like I was reading about REM today. Ooh, I got your attention. Why were you were you oh were they reviewing the unplug thing no no i was just reading a separate article about them about their sort of
Starting point is 01:45:13 breakup yeah how um peter buck wanted them to have to put out a record every year right um because he kind of felt that discipline you know then you don't just like overthink it. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it seems to me like U2 is the prime example of a band that they're not so rich that they don't want to put out records. I think they still want to put out records. Yeah. Yeah, they get distracted and they're doing too much stuff, which leads them to not doing records.
Starting point is 01:45:44 But it's just they doing too much stuff which leads them to not doing records but it's just they have too much money i think relevancy is the main the main goal for them but if they put out three records in five years they would stay relevant i agree i think even if those records were not great they would just by virtue of putting out so much material, they would be relevant. But everything they have to do is big now. They have to have the biggest tour, grossing tour of all time. And in a way, they dig a hole for themselves by waiting so long, because so much importance is going to be put on those 11 songs or however long it is. It has now been 10 years since their last hit single it's been 10 years
Starting point is 01:46:26 since we started this podcast tonight it's been 10 years since their last hit single vertigo yeah it's been 10 years that's an eternity that's crazy they are no longer yeah relevant in a way right only people our age think they're relevant now, you know, in a way. Yeah, because people weren't going to see that last tour, which, by the way, originally was called the Kiss the Future tour, and then they changed it when the single bombed. Oh, is that a lyric from Get On Your Boots? The future needs a big kiss. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:47:00 So, which is kind of a gross lyric. Mwah. Mwah. Mwah. So, they, yeah, they changed it to U2 360 when it kind of, when the single tanked, which is kind of sad. Yeah. Just, you know, put out a record, guys. Yeah. Just put out three of them.
Starting point is 01:47:25 But it's also weird, if they expected this album to be huge, why would they have this giant 360 stadium tour to support it? It's not the kind of album that speaks to stadium rock, really. Mm-hmm. I mean, Magnificent is kind of a big song, but I don't know. I mean. Yeah, who knows what they're thinking anymore? I don't know. They obviously got tricked into thinking Get On Your Boots would be successful
Starting point is 01:47:56 because they were so confident with that song. Oh, man. They went out there and they were like, a sexy boot. Oh, man. I watched that Grammy performance performance recently and it's just sort of like it's a bummer oh geez have you watched that recently no i'm gonna put it on right now they're just like you know you were up to something and it's just sort of like oh you're way better than this yeah and now he's 2009 get on your, oh, you're way better than this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:26 And now you use 2009. Get on your boots. Oh, I should plug it in. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, there it is. Can I come over there and watch? No, thank you oh he's settled up next to me all right there's edge doing the riff there's bono in front of a big screen
Starting point is 01:49:02 that's showing the american flag a lot and he he's doing his poses, his kind of vertigo poses. Yeah. Sexy boots. I don't know man it just you're not on mic by the way i'm not saying shut up i'm saying get on mic and these they have the lyrics up on the screen and it's even more embarrassing because those aren't like lyrics you want really up on a screen. It's not like they're – I just think that the fact that it is kind of a spoken word sort of thing and it's the same melody as the Escape Club is maybe the most embarrassing thing about it, don't you think?
Starting point is 01:49:59 Right, yeah. That no one realized that this is kind of a lift from a super shitty song. Yeah, I know. Not one person said anything. But that's, you know, that's the other thing. No one told the Rolling Stones, hey, you have just ripped off, you know, a song by. Katie Lang. Katie Lang, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:18 You know, they had to credit her afterwards. Like, oh, shit, we did, didn't we? Like, not one person tells the Rolling Stones that? That was a huge song, too. Yeah. She made, apparently, oh, shit, we did, didn't we? Like, not one person tells the Rolling Stones that? That was a huge song, too. Yeah. She made, apparently, so much money. Yeah. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Well, you know, I think, though, I listen to this way more than How to Dismantle an atomic bomb. I listen to it still, too. I think it's a really, really strong album. I dig it. We should, by the way, rank the U2 records in order of how we – now that we're through them, we can't do it right now. It's true. We are done with the U2 catalog.
Starting point is 01:50:59 We've done it all. I mean, the Spider-Man soundtrack is the record that we haven't covered. Yeah. But we've done them all at this point. We have talked U2 to people. What is this, their 12th album? I don't know. That's another thing is they've been around for 30 some odd years,
Starting point is 01:51:18 and they've only made 12 albums or 13 albums. Yeah. Meanwhile, Prince is putting out two a year. Now, that's not a good thing. No. In some cases. He should rein it in a little bit. But, you know, like Springsteen recently is a good example of, you know what?
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah. He's back to touring. He's back to putting out records every two years. Yeah. He puts out a lot of albums. He took some breaks there. Yeah. But since he's been kind of –
Starting point is 01:51:45 since Magic, he's been just putting them out like pretty regularly. Now, does that mean I like every single one? No, but at least I know in a – at least I know if I'm disappointed in one, it's not going to be another five, six years for another one. Yeah, I feel like Magic and – what was the one that came out right after Magic? Lucky Day?
Starting point is 01:52:08 Working on a dream. Lucky Day. Wait, not Lucky Day. No, no. Working on a dream. That was the one that came out two years ago. Yeah. Okay, so you have his.
Starting point is 01:52:22 He did Magic with Radio Nowhere. And then he did Working on a Dream. Then he did Wrecking Ball. Wrecking Ball, which is great. Working on a Dream, Wrecking Ball, Magic. I feel like all those are sort of similar. Like I think of them as sort of in a similar vein. A trilogy.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Okay, so he did Magic 2007, Working on a Dream 2009, Wrecking Ball 2012. Pretty good. Three records in five years. Those are all solid albums. Those are all solid. Then High Hopes, it's not that great, but at least I know he's probably got another one. I didn't get High Hopes. I didn't purchase.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I love that song Lucky Day on Working on a Dream cool so anyway so here's where we're at
Starting point is 01:53:12 it is 1125 for us we both it's time to go it's time to go but here's what we're gonna do we have some more
Starting point is 01:53:22 sure we're at the end of their discography we still have the Broadway episode. Yep. Not saying that's next week. We have a pretty cool episode next week I think people will enjoy. It's almost as experimental as Fez being born. And then we'll see where we're at.
Starting point is 01:53:40 All right? So you can expect at least three more episodes from us. You two, put out your record so we can end this show. So we have something to do. We'll spend 20 episodes
Starting point is 01:53:54 talking about your new record. Oh, seriously. If you put out an album, I would say minimum three or four episodes just dissecting it. Just devoted to that. Yeah. So put to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:05 So put it out. We'll spend one episode just talking about how psyched we are that it's out. Yes. We won't even get to the album. No. We'll talk about where we were the day we heard that it was out. We'll do everything. We'll cover it all.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Just put it out, guys. Yeah. So we'll see. Next week, very special episode, and then we'll see where we're at after that. But we have to go right now. Until next time, this is Scott. And this is Scott. This is Scott, and we sincerely hope that you find what you're looking for. Future needs a big kiss, winds blow with a twist. Never seen a moon like this, can you see it too?
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