U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - Pop

Episode Date: April 16, 2014

Adam Scott Aukerman continue talkin' U2 as they dive right into U2's ninth studio album Pop. They'll discuss the 1995 single "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me" from the Batman Forever soundtrack which served as a bridge to Pop, the PopMart Tour which was announced from a New York K-Mart, and Scott goes through his alternate mix of Pop. Plus, they’ll discuss the new U2 album delay and talk about the Batman movies in another edition of "I Love Films." This episode is sponsored by:  Bonobos . Use offer code EDGE to get 20% off  Stamps.com . Click here for a special $110 Bonus Offer! Naturebox: Go to naturebox.com/u2 to save 50% on your first box of delicious snacks.  GoDaddy.com : Use offer code U295 for 85%off for $2.95 own your own dot COM

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I'm the host of the Comedy Bang Bang podcast and TV show. The TV show, the third season premiering in a few weeks here, in a couple weeks,th may 8th at 10 30 after an all-new marin uh so be on the lookout for that i am scott of course and sitting across from me he's gonna get in that hot tub at the end of the year hot tub time machine too that is and uh you know him from parks and not just parks but also recreation please welcome scott thank you scott i would like to say hello to my friends i would like to say hello to my friend my family and don't leave them out I would like to say hello to you. Thank you so much. So friends first, family second always.

Yes. And me third. I really appreciate that. Third, I would like to say hello to you. Thank you. And where do the fans come in, though? Because they're expecting one of your patented Scott hellos. your patented Scott hellos. I would like to give them a silent hello from here in sunny and fun Los Angeles.

It is sunny, isn't it? I mean, that's one thing that when people told me about Los Angeles, they said, you know what, the sun, it shines there. I didn't believe them. I said, that can't be possible. The sun shines down upon everything. And sure enough, I got here.

I stepped out of the clown car, a.k.a. my family's station wagon. Yeah, tell me about it. And I'll be damned if the sun wasn't high above us and just shining right down on us. Shining right down. You know, on a scorcher like today, it was pretty hot today. You're telling me, pal.

You know what I like on a hot day like today? Let's see. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say lemonade, but it could be anything. I like a glass of cold lemonade with some ice cubes. I'm not going to lie to you. Ice cubes down at the bottom of that glass? No, I like them floating up top. Okay, all right. What kind of ice cubes do I'm not going to lie to you. Ice cubes down at the bottom of that glass? No, I like them floating up top. Okay, alright. What kind of ice cubes do you use? I use ones with

metal ball bearings in them so that they are anchored right to the bottom. I don't like them floating up. You don't like them floating. You don't like them getting in the way of your sip. Look, I want lemonade. I don't want a bunch of ice cubes in my mouth. You know what I mean? Like, I ain't into that shit. Okay. You know what I like? i ain't into that shit okay you know what i like what's that i like the when i'm taking a sip of pink lemonade ice cold pink lemonade yep i like

those ice cubes to just rub up right against the top of my mouth so i can barely get a sip and then the the pink lemonade comes out around the side. Dribbles around down the sides. Dribbles down right onto my... Your breasts. My breasts. I love it. I love it, too. Just you talking about it. I love it.

It's getting me even hotter than the weather outside here in Los Angeles. Now, we should say... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What I was going to say is on a scorcher like today, I like to find a little shade and kick back and relax in the shade. That's true. Have you ever sat or even lain within a hammock? Lain?

Sure. Have you ever lain within a hammock? Oh, I've certainly lain my fair share of hammocks in my time. Have you ever lain in a hammock and had some hamas? I have not, but that sounds like a dream come true. A nightmare, but still a dream. A nightmare

is technically a dream. You know what a nightmare would be is if you're in a hummock having some hummus. In hummus, and you spill it on your penis. You're listening to you talking, you YouTube to me. The Comprehensive and Encyclopedic Compendium of all things YouTube.

Now, we should talk about this. We are taping this late at night, as is our want. Oh, man. A couple of night owls over here. Engineer Cody is manning the ones, the twos. He is trying to keep his eyes open. And we have to talk about it it's been a while it's been a while since we have taped one of these it how long has it been because a lot has

happened a lot has happened about a month maybe okay because since the last episode where we recorded there's been a lot of youtube news but. But also, Scott, our podcast has gone live. That's right. It was not live the last time that we recorded an ep episode. Thank you for clarifying. This is the first ep episode that we've recorded since we've kind of released our dove out into the world. That's right. And it has been a month because at this point,

episode four is just about to be released. Yeah, it's dropping in two days. Two days. And I did want to say, by the way, that it is fitting that we're talking about you two today because we are recording this on St. Patrick's Day and the lovable lads from Liverpool celebrate St. Patrick's Day in their home country.

St. Potty's Day. That is, I'm guessing, an impression of something. I didn't quite get it. An old Irishman. Okay. An old Irishman. From the old Irishman. I don't know why you have to bring ageism into it.

I mean, he can just be an Irishman. Old. So it's St. Patty's Day patrick's day thank you thank you um and yeah it has been a month because yeah we're at episode four it the response has been overwhelming you guys are digging it you guys are loving it you guys love the chemistry you haven't seen such chemistry since breaking bad i think oh yeah aaron paul and brian kranz they had great chemistry acting chemistry great chemistry yeah oh yeah but also chemistry because the show he was a chemist he was a chemistry teacher i you know what i didn't i don't know because i turned it off about 10 minutes into it oh yeah he's a

chemistry teacher really that's a boring and that's why i turned it off about 10 minutes into it. Oh, yeah. He's a chemistry teacher. Really? That's great. And that's why I turned it off because it's so boring. Oh, no. You've got to see it. Look, I took chemistry in high school. I don't want to sit there watching a TV show where a teacher teaches me about chemistry. As soon as I saw that on the screen, click, turned it off

because that is boring, my friend. The first three episodes are just chemistry classes. So once you get through that though it's great really is it like the wire where you have to watch a whole bunch of them before you kind of go yeah this is a good show no it's okay let me just set the scene for you okay set the table albuquerque new mexico nm um abq chemistry teacher by the way i appreciate you using airport codes when we talk about things because I'm constantly on the go. Oh, man, I'm always traveling.

It's a little shorthand that I like to use, so it gets me in the mindset of, okay, ABQ, great. That's about, yeah, okay, that seems to be about 450 miles per hour. Okay, got it. You know what I like to do is when I'm traveling, I like to just tweet out which airports I'm going to. Just like ABQ and then an arrow to JFK. Yeah, that is a great flight, by the way. That is one of the most beautiful flights that you've ever taken. If you can get a straight direct flight from Albuquerque to JFK, treat yourself.

You do that for fun sometimes. I do because I don't like to fly straight from LAX to JFK. I like to take a little ABQ detour because when you're crossing over that New Mexico border, it is beautiful, my friend. Try to do it not at sunset, not at sundown, but just like at noon. Oh, that sounds great. When you're just flying right into the sun. What's your favorite thing to look at on that flight? You know, a lot of people would say clouds.

Mm-hmm. But I like to look at the part that's not cloudy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The sky. Yeah, the sky. The blue.

The blue. My wife. I don't know. What is that? Just like flipping a coin. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay.

Very good. Just the blue sky. Hey, Mr. Blue Sky. Hey, Mr. Blue Sky. Where are you going to today? That song? That song, exactly. Yeah, it's a great song.

One of the best U2 songs, I would say. By the way, you're listening to you talking U2 to me, and the response has been overwhelming. Thank you so much for your fan art. It seems like every day. Really good fan art out there. way you're listening to you talking you two to me and the response has been overwhelming thank you so much for your fan art it seems like every day really good fan art out there we're getting some fan art i usually send it over to adam who can't be bothered with it um but i'm looking at it and it's really great and i'll usually get a back a text that says what the fuck is this and who the fuck are you stop fucking texting me this shit we have a very professional relationship

where i insist and scott over here thank you scott really you you do well with this uh most of the time and i'll credit you with that i insist on no communication whatsoever unless the microphones are on sure i do i I relatively stick to that. Sometimes you throw out a text or an email to me and I don't appreciate it. Have we talked about email on this show? We have, but I'm always, I'm all ears for any opinions. I love it because it's like mail that you write, the minute you write it and you press enter, it gets, it gets to the person that you're trying to get it to. Sure. You just write an email.

You just type in the name of the person. Like for you, when I write you an email, I just write AU. AU. And my computer just automatically fills in Aukerman for me. And I'm like, yep, that's the guy. Usually it's because you're going, AU, I want to write you an email. AU, you talking U2 for me. And I'm like, yep, that's the guy. Usually it's because you're going, hey, you. I want to write you an email. Hey, you. You talking you too to me.

And we are talking you too, by the way, all show. I do want to hype. This is our special pop show. Yeah. This is the episode where we talk about pop. Controversial album. Beloved by some, hated by many. But we'll be talking about it on this show.

Controversial tour as well. Oh my goodness. Lemon, we'll talk about it. But I do want to say that a lot has happened since we last recorded the show. And guys, your prayers have been with us, and we appreciate that because when we first started this show, we talked about it. We said, you know what? We want to do a show and we want to do it every week

until the new record comes out. We thought that would drop in late February, which it did, and we had heard the record was coming out in April. That's what we've heard since, for a few months at this point, right? Yeah, did we start, did we first decide to do this like in November?

Something like that. And we first recorded an this like in November? Something like that. And we first recorded an episode maybe in December or something like that. So we said, okay, we'll do five episodes, we'll do six episodes, and on the sixth episode, the new record will be out and we'll review that. Yeah. So the first episode that you heard is us tearing through their discography. We did three albums and an EP on that one. We then slowed to a glacial pace.

I'll say. We then, episode two covered one album. Episode three covered another album. Episode four covered another album. Episode five did not cover a single album. Wait, which album? We meant to cover Actung Baby. We did not get to it.

Are you serious? Yes. Instead, we had to save it for Episode 6 because we dicked around too much. But that has come actually in handy because we found a little time. Look, I'll be honest. I'm in my week off in between shooting the TV show episodes. I'm glad you're being honest with me. Let me be completely candid.

Great. I have a week off. I'm not sure why I would lie about it. Why would you need to be candid about that? Look, I'm just going to strip away all artifice at this point and tell you I have a week off. Okay. And I'm here with Scott over here, and we're doing a couple of eps so we can keep coming out weekly because what we learned around the third

episode being released all of a sudden a flurry of tweets start showing up in my box is it like an actual box in your house yes a cardboard box i have a secretary who types out any tweet any at reply to me uh she she copies it off puts it in a cardboard box um which i cannot afford an actual metal filing box. Well, why would you need that, a metal one? It's expensive and heavy. And you know what? It's bad for the environment.

Absolutely. You know, cardboard, it's actually made out of a kind of cardboard styrofoam composite material. And is it true every day you take the styrofoam cardboard hybrid box and you burn it? Yeah, I burn it. And then I throw the charred remains into the sea. Perfect. Usually with some of my six-pack plastic rings that I wrap it up in just to make sure that it's kind of— You throw it into a resting flock of otters and seagulls.

Yes. By the way, and this is not in the Pacific Ocean. I go all the way to the Atlantic, which is why I'm traveling so much from ABQ over to JFK. I need to get there and get back. To dispose of your box ashes. Yes, of course. But yeah, we're getting a flurry of tweets saying, Oh my God, have you heard the news?

Extra, extra. I've read all about it. I need to alert the Scots. I click onto one of these things, which when it's typed out is not easy. Right. How do you click on a scrap of paper? It was not effective. I kept pointing at it and touching it, expecting something to happen.

This is a bad system is what I'm trying to say. Terrible. I may be overpaying her too not included a terrible system i'm overpaying her because i'm paying her and tell me if this sounds high or low to you but i'm paying her 175 000 a year to do this this is her only job i'm gonna okay i'm gonna be honest with you you are you are overpaying her but it sounds like a lot of work. It really is, especially booking all that travel for me. That is her only other job. And you only fly first class private.

Yeah. That's the thing. I hate being in first class and feeling like there's other people around me. It's like first class to me is being solo. Right. You know what I mean? And what is the bag you carry the ashes in to go dispose? people around me it's like if first class to me is being solo right you know what i mean and what what what is the bag you carry the ashes in to go dispose what's the bag made out of the bag

is made out of uh literally it's kind of uh uh what is that material that they say never throw away in the in the junkyard human skin human. It's literally made out of my grandfather. When he died, he said, come close, come close. I was standing in the corner of the room. I was like, Grandpa, you're grossing me out. You smell bad. You're about to die. You have death smell.

He said, no, come close, come close, come close. And he made me lean over and put my ear next to his mouth. And he said, grandson grandson when i die i want you to make a travel handbag out of my butthole it was bizarre wow that's that's great but what are you gonna do not do that he it was his dying wish of course i'm gonna do it it's i had to turn his his sort of colon inside out yeah and uh make sort of an inverse butthole bag i wonder why of all wishes sure that's what he chose there's a lot you can wish for and a lot you can hope for for your grandson um i want you to have a happy life i want you to chase happiness not money but no he chose i want you to make a travel handbag out of my butthole look i think he's a weird dude i think it was some sort of he sounds weird i think it was some sort of kinky fetish he had he wanted to make sure that i was constantly reaching into his

butthole i think it goes hand in hand with other wishes that he had while I was alive that I don't necessarily want to get into. Starting to make sense. So he would repeatedly ask you to reach into his butthole. When he was alive, yes. Reach into my butthole, young man, he used to start sentences off with. Okay, okay. And fiddle around and see what's in there. And so I think when he died, he just wanted to know that I was going to be fiddling around with his butthole until eternity. But, you know, what are you going to

do? Turn down an old man? Absolutely not. I mean, you have to do it. And you did. And I admire that. Yes. So I'm carrying all of these cardboard styrofoam plastic things to JFK every single day, flying back on a red eye. And it's tiring. And you're shooting your TV show.

That, mainly, the tv show has turned into that it's just the chronicle of me doing this it's turned into a documentary is that what this this next season's gonna be yeah it's we've totally abandoned the format of comedy bang bang and we're now it's just it's a lot of travel it's me doing this every day can't wait yeah great yeah um but yeah flurry of tweets i finally figured out that I should click on them on the internet. And what they say is, U2 announces, or it wasn't even they didn't announce. Billboard Magazine had a source close to the band. And who is this source close to the band, by the way?

Who knows? You know who it is? It's all grouch. Sourpuss Brian Eno, I bet. I bet he's calling up Billboard. He's got a hot scoop and he's like, Hello, this is Brian Eno. I mean, a source close to the band.

I've been replaced by Danger Mouse. So I'm going to rat on them. He sounds like a real dandy. He's a renaissance dandy. But the meat of this is basically that you two supposedly are delaying their record until next year. Yeah, and tour until next year. But then, like, two days later, a spokesperson for the band said that the album is still on track. And a spokesperson wouldn't lie, right?

Right. But then that's it. Then radio silence. Radio silence, which U2 is saying something because- They're on the radio a lot. They have a ton of hits. So for them to get all the radio stations in the entire world to stop playing U2 is a feat. Radio silence.

But we all know who's in control of the airwaves. That's true. The president of the U.S. of Antarctica. That's true. A lot of people think that it's just a barren wasteland up there. No, no, no. No, there's a society up there.

No, no, no. They have a president. No, no, no. That's where all the radio satellites are launched from, is Antarctica. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm telling the listener. I'm not telling you of course you know this yeah yeah so you two supposedly we're in a state of confusion so apparently they have all of these songs with danger mouse and now they've decided to take the songs and move them to a couple of new producers and start working with them.

And the new producers we heard of were, I know, Ryan Tedder. Right. Who, from One Direction. Right. One Republic. One Direction, I believe. Is it One Republic or One Direction? I believe it's One Republic.

Okay, hold on. Maybe, because One Direction maybe is a, no. One Direction's like the boy band. Oh, right. Okay, so on. Because One Direction maybe is a... One Direction is like the boy band. Oh, right. Okay, so who am I? Okay, Ryan Tedder. One Republic. You are right.

And that's one word. One Republic. One Republic. Although, if you capitalize something, if you capitalize the second word in a word that you made one word, just put a space bar. Hit the space bar. Why do you want to not hit the space bar?

Why? You got a problem with the space bar? Hey, you got a problem with the space bar. So Ryan Tedder, whose hits, by the way, I'm looking at his page here. I don't even know OneRepublic. Why don't you play some of it on your iPod that you have? I do. I actually do have some.

Oh, you do? Do you want me to find some? Okay. Talk while I look for it, all right? Can you do that for me? You turned away from the mic while you said, hey, go play some of this stuff. Yeah, it's a bummer. Oh, God.

But. I am really regretting you talking during this. But at the same time, hey, you know what? If that's what it takes... Here's some One Republic. I've never heard this. This is Counting Stars. Not a bad song.

I like this song actually But does this sound like U2 to you? You talking U2 to me? No but I You know They make hits He does You know what one of his biggest hits was?

It's too late Apologize I said it's too late I don't know if I know that one either But It's probably his biggest apologize. I said it's too late. I don't know if I know that one either, but it's probably his biggest hit. And the other guy is the other Paul Epworth is the other one. Paul Epworth, who is that? Is that the other? Didn't he do the remix of Ordinary Love that we really liked?

Ordinary, oh, here we go. The other producer. Oh, he works with Adele as well. Yes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the other producer oh he works with adele as well yes okay that's the other guy that they're working with he won the academy award for best original song alongside adele for skyfall which is a good song i like adele yeah me too adele kazim from the oscars that's right did you see the tweet this morning from um from ben schwartz. No, what did he say? True Detective season two was that earthquake and Adele. And Adele, because, yeah, Dezeem, is that what it was? Yeah.

That's some funny stuff. So I think that there, you see in the press a lot, them talking about being, them concerned with their relevance. And I think for- Revelance, by the way. Revelance, yeah, it's revelance yeah in today's kind of singles oriented you know the music industry is no longer album oriented the world is faster than ever we we talk about the hustle a lot but you cannot discount the bustle listen the information super

highway has officially taken off it has Just like in the last six months. And guys like you and me are left there with just a license plate that's fallen off one of these cars whizzing by. Hey, how about just some exhaust smoke in our eyes? Hey, guys, come on, slow down. Shake our fists at these guys. Get off my lawn. Slow down. Anyway.

So maybe they're just like we need hits. Hits and plenty of them. Yeah. I mean, do you think that's what's happening? You know, they may be. I mean, why stick with one guy, you know? I mean, maybe Danger Mouse ain't cutting it. You know what I mean?

Maybe. I mean, I like the new song, Invincible. Me too. I think it's Invisible. I like the new song, Invincible. Me too. And I think it's invisible. I'm pretty sure it's invincible. You're right. It was the theme to that Mark Wahlberg movie. Right.

They keep trying for that Academy Award. And that's another thing that let's save it for the next episode, though, as Snoop Dogg once said. Let's talk about the Academy Awards, because like we say, a lot has happened since the last time we recorded. But we should talk about the Academy Awards in our next say a lot has happened since the last time we recorded but we should talk about the Academy Awards in our next episode because they were nominated and everyone knows what happened

but we'll talk about your experience with it and my experience with it in the next episode. Sure thing. But so we're in a state of flux right now. We don't know when

U2 is coming out with this record. We had heard April then we had heard June. Now we don't know what's happening. It's like Bono reach out to us.

Right. Let us know. It's weird because as early as like two weeks before this delay was leaked, The Edge in an interview had said, I'm going to be really busy. They're like, when is the album coming out? He's like, I can't say, but let me just say we'll be very busy this summer. And they said, when are you going to be on tour? And he said, I can't say, but let me just, I'll just put it this way. I'm going to be very busy this fall. He's talking about jerking it.

His masturbation schedule. So he's trying to say, look, I'm too busy to tour this summer. I'm jerking it. There are a couple of other small clues that I picked up on the at U2 website. Oh boy. This is, by the AtYou2 website. Oh, boy. By the way, another plug for AtYou2. I hope you guys are enjoying it out there in the AtYou2 community because Adam Scott, he's lurking out there. Let me just say that I know for a fact they aren't listening or enjoying it. Oh, okay. But, oh, yeah, okay, so.

Clues. First of all, can we have the theme music for me being a U2 sleuth? Okay, here we go. This is our U2 sleuth theme song. Okay. Okay. Okay. According to my calculations,

now somebody slipped up in an interview. Okay. The, uh, what's his name? Jesus Christ, what are you trying to say? What's his name? Bono. No. The Edge.

Should I just list people? No. Stephen Hawking. What's his name from the shins? James Mercer. James Mercer was being interviewed. Because of Broken Bells? Because of Broken Bells.

And he's in with Danger Mouse. Yes. Brian, as Lance Bangs called him. Yes. And they said, hey, you know, Danger Mouse is producing U2 right now. That's really exciting. And James Mercer,

maybe it was a slip up, maybe it wasn't. He said, yeah, it's really exciting. That whole first album is going to be all Danger Mouse. Oh. And then there was

another interview with Bono just like a week before the delay leak where he said to an interviewer who was an old friend of his, she said, what's going on with the album? And he goes, he said,

uh, well, uh, I can take this long to say it. He said, I can tell you something, but then I'll have to kill you. But we're actually working on two,

two records yeah so okay those two clues together kind of uh two's clues that's the name of this segment this segment two's clues yeah um it sounds like maybe they're working on some sort of two separate product i don't know maybe they're they're doing what they normally do which is they go hey we're working on two records but then they just take the best of both of them and then put out one. And then put out a bunch of EPs or singles or something like that. That's probably what's going on. And they don't want to hurt Danger Mouse's feelings.

You know, the way they hurt Steve Lillywhite that one time when they're like, you know what? I think it's best. And he was like, you know what? Yeah, good idea. Good idea. Go make your famous records with Brian Eno that's good

that's good no but he produced one of their big biggest hits How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb we'll talk about that

in a few episodes definitely we'll I'm ready to talk about it whenever you are we'll get to it we'll definitely get to it I know we will

I know we will I will say I am not ready I'm in the middle of filming my show I'm in the middle of filming my show. I'm in the middle of moving. A lot's going on right now.

Cool Up is out of the country. Where is she? She went to Laos. Uh-huh. So a lot is happening right now, and I don't have time to research you two as much as... I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time.

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I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time. I don't have time I know, U2's a lifestyle, and I should be ready at a moment's notice. When I get the call, I should slide down my pole, fireman style, and change into my fly sunglasses and coat, leather coat.

Slide down your pole. Wait, what? What the fuck did you just say to me? I didn't say shit, man. Sounded to me like you said fucking something to me. I didn't say fucking shit to you and that is the end of two's clues good episode solid solid episode of two's clues um which started out as a segment called

i'm a u2 sleuth i believe until halfway, we figured out it should be called Two Clues. You know, I feel like, and it doesn't have to be right now, but I do feel like it's been a while since. It's been a while. It's been a while. By the way, are we going to do our Stained podcast as well? Yeah. Someone suggested we do a podcast called Stained Glass with Todd Glass

where we talk about the music of St i count me in okay for that one of these you talking you too to me episodes we'll try to make that happen we'll get todd glass out here i don't even know if he likes the music of stained but it's too good a title stained glass um but I do think at some point tonight we need to fit in an I Love Films podcast episode. Yeah, we need to do an I Love Films. It's been a while. It's been a while since we've done an I Love Films, and we need to get some stuff off of our chest regarding films. Now, what we also should do is we should take a break at this point, if that's okay.

You are listening to you talking U2 to me. we're only talking about you two's pop tonight um so far we've talked a lot about it and there's even more if you can believe it to talk about what yeah there's more to talk about when it comes to you two's pop it's been a while it's been a while um so come back listen to these messages scott and i will be talking about you two's pop when we come back on you talking you two to me. Hey, you. Yeah, you, you listening. This is Scott. I'm talking to you. Hey, hey, you. Do you? Hey, do you have a great idea for a business? Yeah, no, no, yeah, I'm talking to you Usually I'm talking you too to you But right now I'm just talking to you

Do you have a great idea for a business? Yes, I'm talking to you Do you have a great idea for a business? And do you want to start selling your products or services online? I knew you did Do you have an established business maybe? and you're looking for new customers? Or here's another question. Are you interested in starting a personal website?

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This is Mofo from Pop, and you're listening to you talking U2 to me. This is U2 music right here. This is what U2 sounds like on the Pop record, and we will be talking about it all episode long. This is Scott, of course, and I'm sitting here with Scott. Two Brosos talking you too was that your original title wasn't it of this show you wanted to be two bros talking about two talking about two right and then when you said you talking you two to me i was like yep way better you should title things not me um yeah you're listening to you talking you too to me and of course um this is the pop which stands for popular a lot of people don't know that pop music stands for popular meaning the most popular songs of the day exactly like uh the the the most popular

songs on the charts the charts which um cover popular songs so that's why they appear on the charts. The charts which cover popular songs, so that's why they appear on the charts. Look, the charts aren't just random. No, no, no. Here's one popular song, here's a song that's not popular. No, they gather the popular songs. Like, the number one song

would be the most popular song. Which is why number one is right next to it because it is the most popular. Right, and then number two, that's the second most popular song. Would you say that when it comes to bodily things you do in the bathroom, is poop less popular than pee then? I don't know about popular. I mean, I know that many, many people, and I've done my research, find pooping to be the most satisfying. The most satisfying?

I don't know. If you get a nice pee in you, and then it's just like, bleh. Oh, that's so great. Shaking some dew off that daisy. Shake a little dew off the daisy. You know what I mean? Do you think that's more disgusting, or do you think it's more disgusting to say, I'm going to take a squirt? Squirt is pretty bad.

It's pretty gross. No one ever admits that they're going to go take a number two in the bathroom. Everyone goes, hey, I got to go pee. At least half the time people are in there shitting it up. Don't you think? I don't know. It's got those odds. How many, and be honest about this, when you go to the restroom, how many times do you go a day?

Would you say? I don't, I, um, hmm. Like 1,400? That's too much. What are you talking about? That is too much. 1,400, I don't even know if you have time in a day to do that. That's what I spent my day doing.

Oh, my gosh. Well, look, what I'm trying to get at is half the time you're probably shitting when you're in that restroom. Don't you think? 7,000 times? I mean, 700 times? Your math is way off. Still a lot. Still a lot, but you know what I mean?

Or do you think it's two-thirds peeing one-third shitting i i don't know anyway uh i don't know but i know that charts wise peeing would be more popular because people do it more often so you think that two-thirds of the time people pee and one-third of the time they shit well i would think that people usually pee, what, like seven, eight times a day? Okay, sure. Yeah, if you drink a lot of water, certainly. And then you're not exercising. They take a duker like once a day.

You think once a day? Maybe twice? Maybe twice, yeah. Okay. I don't know. It depends also on what you're eating it depends on how regular look we don't know if you're just eating poop that's interesting and i've often wondered about that if you were to eat poop what would you poop whole pieces of chicken see and that's what a lot of people who are starving don't realize is like eat some poop you'll poop out chicken and then just eat the chicken you'll poop out poop then eat that poop you'll poop out chicken it's just round and round and round you never have to pay

for food again boom poverty and starvation solved extinct i just looked over at Cody and he looked had a look on his face that said why am I spending my Monday evening doing this? St. Patrick's Day I could be out with my friends he's been talking about his girlfriend all day I've seen him all day he's like I gotta call my girlfriend

what's what's the deal with this girlfriend what's going on? let's take a break from you talking you two to me and let's get an update on good old What's going on? Let's take a break from you talking U2 to me, and let's get an update on good old Cody's love life. What do we got, Code? She's a fantastic gal. I don't know.

She lives in New York. She's one of the Fantastic Four. Is that what you said? She lives in New York in the Baxter building? Is it Jessica Alba? Oh, my God. How did you know? The invisible girl?

Because I haven't seen hide nor hair of her around here. When are you going to bring her around? She's been around. She lives in New York, though. I've been around. Why are you dating New York girls? It's just how it happens. What's her name?

Alyssa. Alyssa, what's her last name? Caliente. Wait, why? Caliente? This is a made-up woman. Alyssa Caliente. Turn off your mic.

Turn off your mic. Alyssa Caliente. Cody. I don't get it. Why are you making making up women you don't have to make up with you you had a whole phone conversation with a made-up woman while I was in the other room you don't have to go to those lengths all right you're okay the way you are you can bring a real girl around Scott and I won't embarrass you. No. Okay, so why were we talking about Alyssa Caliente? Because we were wondering what other things Cody would rather be doing than listening to us talk about poop. Oh, that's right.

There's the thread. We were talking about poop because of pop. Poop sounds like pop, which a lot of people... What if they named you to put out an album and it was called Poop? What if... Okay, Green Day, they put out something called Dookie. That's true. And 14 million people bought it.

That's true. So it's not that far-fetched. Right. But Poop is a bit more direct than Dookie. What if they put out Pop, okay, and and they were like this is our new album pop yeah and then they put out an ep called poop that's a little more like i could see that happening yeah yeah where they were just being cheeky there's that cheeky well in this stage of youtube's career where they're kind of running out the running running out the clock running out the

clock on the irony thing oh okay i could see them putting out an ep called poop and being like isn't this cute isn't this funny like who who has ever put out a record called poop right that well which is what they were trying to do with the title pop in a way they were trying to cut like point out hey here's our stab at making really kind of mainstream stuff. Do you agree or not agree? I don't know. I feel like they were, it's definitely more dance-oriented, and the first single, it's called Disco Tag. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

So you're going out on a limb and saying that U2's pop album is more dance-oriented? Well, part of it is, at least the way it was marketed was, but a lot of it's kind of straight-ahead U2 music. Sure. Good, high-quality rock and roll, as you've said. I think it's good rock and roll. It's not music. It's probably my least favorite other than,

it's probably my second least favorite. Other than Octoon Baby? No October. Oh that's you know what by the way you two that's a little confusing to have two records called Ock something. Yeah because I just said I was about to say October and I said Oct

and you thought I was going to say Octoon Baby. I did it's confusing and my name is Ock or Man as well. It's like I get confused when you're talking about U2 records. We should rename those albums. We really should. I mean, we talked earlier in an episode about how legally they have to be about what the title is about. But we should rename them.

What would you call October? Rocktober. Great. Already a better title. Okay. What would you call Octoombebe? Rocktoombebe! See?

Way better. Way better. But then we have that problem of calling two records similar things there, too. Oh, because... I don't know. We'll never solve this problem. When I say rock, you're going to think I'm saying Rocktober, but I was talking about Rocktoombebe.

Rocktoombebe. Or rock and roll music, which is another problem. High quality. High quality. High quality, indeed. Well, we are going to talk about pop. We're going to talk about, let me just get some facts out of the way. This is released 3 March 1997. But before we talk about pop, you know what we should do?

What? What we should do is talk about what came before pop, the bridge into pop sound called Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me. Let's hear a little bit of Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me right now. Is this an outtake from Zeropa? I believe it was. If not an outtake, it was something that they were working on around Zeropa. And they said, you know what? I kind of think this song is about Batman. It's a good song. Around Zoropa, and they said, you know what? Shit.

I kind of think this song's about Batman. It's a good song. I like that song. I like that song a lot. Actually, we talked about Zoropa in one of our last episodes, if not the last episode, and I talked about how I really enjoy that album. Yeah. At the same time, I didn't think it had any hits necessarily on it yeah but

when i first heard this on the radio i said you know what call up those charts we were talking about yeah uh because this one's going to the top of them i think we got a hot cake on our hands and i'm not talking about breakfast this is gonna be number one with a bullet and i hope that no one uses a gun with a real bullet because i don't agree with guns absolutely not yeah uh so that was that was a big hit it was a big hit i remember when it first came on the radio i was driving uh this is by the way it came out in 1995 5th of june for batman forever no yes sorry batman forever yes it wasn't't Batman and Robin. This was the third Batman movie starring Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer.

And Chris O'Donnell, star-making performance as Robin. And Jim Carrey lighting up the screen and making us laugh a lot as the Riddler. Oh, man. The funniest portrayal of the Riddler ever. Jokes aplenty. My goodness. I mean, I thought Frank Gorsham was funny. No, no, no, no, no.

And then Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey. Went out there and made us laugh. I've always wanted, when I go see a Batman movie, I want to laugh. I want to laugh, and I want there to be at least three villains. At least. Bare minimum. Which is why I'm so excited for the new Spider-Man movie.

How many villains are in that one? A Sinister what's that six villains that's the sinister say anyway there are six villains in the new spider-man six villains in the new spider-man boy um okay so there are wait tommy lee jones to jim carrey ridd. Was there one more? Or was it just two villains? I think you're thinking of their fourth movie with Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Batgirl, a whole shit ton of people in that one. But Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me. They were working on the song and they said, I think these lyrics are actually about Batman.

We should just have them make a new Batman movie and then put it into that. And it all worked out really well. But I do remember I was listening to it on the radio and it came on K-Rock, which is a local Los Angeles, kind of famous station. Very influential. Very influential.

And the DJ, just Jockey, he played it and then he said, you know what? i really like that song even though i don't like classical music what because there are strings in it because what dj was it i forget who it was but listen to this well let's listen to the beginning of the song. Again. Oh, right. You hear an orchestra. And he said, this is classical music. That's so stupid.

I don't like classical music, but I like rock music. This song's pretty good. He gave it a pretty good. Boy. Was that a real thing a DJ did? Yes. Well, I'm not talking about unreal things. The DJs didn't.

Well, I don't know. I'm trying to cut through the BS here. You know what I'm saying? It's tarred. It's tarred? It's tarred. So you see that as sort of a bridge to pop. Sort of.

I mean, look, they took the Zeropa sound, those buzzing guitars, the kind of electronic edge. Pardon the pun, because the edge plays guitars. Guitar player, yeah. And they made a successful stab at doing something which was kind of dance-ish meets rock music, and it went to the top of the charts. Yeah. So they all of a sudden started thinking, you know what? We know how to do this.

We got this. The time between Zoropa and Pop is four years. No, my friend. Zoropa, no, you're right. Okay, Zoropa, yeah, was 1993, and Pop is 97. I thought you meant between this. Hold Me, Thrill Me. Oh, no.

This is directly in the middle. You have Zoropa, 93. Meanwhile, they're finishing the tour of Octoom Baby. Yeah. And they finish it up. They put on a B-side, put out a B-side from Zoropa as the Batman theme. Yeah. Meanwhile, you got Baby!

I could be for my kids from Rose on my head. Yeah! Wow, that Batman movie had hits. It had incredible hits. Let's check out the Batman Forever original soundtrack here. Here's what we got. Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me by U2. One Time Too Many by PJ Harvey.

Where Are You Now by Brandy. Okay, but then you got Kiss From Rose. Monster Smash. Yeah! Yeah! Smash It Up by The Offspring, a damned cover, which they played on K-Rock a lot. Oh, I'm sure. Uh, and then a whole bunch of shit. Michael Hutchins

solo track. Really? The Passenger Iggy Pop cover. Do you think that this is where Michael Hutchins and Bono struck up that friendship? Yeah, because they were on the soundtrack together? I'm sure. To back that forever. Oh, I'm sure.

Because, you know, famously on All That You Can't Leave Behind, Stuck in a Moment That You Can't Get Out Of is about Michael Hutchins. This is probably where they met. I know. So, wait, Michael Hutchins sings Passenger? He he sings the passenger by by iggy pop on that soundtrack yeah and the flaming lips have a bad days which is on another rem as a song that no sorry that's on batman and robin my friend that's not true uh it is very true that's very true it is not on this soundtrack are you sure i'm very sure because that was the

smashing pumpkins as well was on that with the end is the beginning batman and robin uh-huh batman and robin film i'm looking that up oh you're right you're right you're right i'm right i'm the guy with the computer in front of me buddy you don't have to argue with me okay so that movie, Batman and Robin, did you go see that when it came out? Yeah, I actually went with a big group of comedians. I think Patton Oswalt and Paul F. Tompkins and a whole bunch of people. We went Saturday

to The Man's Chinese. Did you know it was gonna be shitty? Like, had you heard this is the worst? I kind of, I actually liked batman forever yeah i remember liking it at the time i've watched it recently again it's just a boring yeah it's so bad uh but we went and we kind of knew that it might be bad because it didn't look good right but we couldn't believe it and we were shouting at the screen and making fun of it and i

remember someone in a batman t-shirt came up to us after the movie and said, hey, you ruined that movie. I felt bad. Even though the movie kind of came pre-ruined. Yeah, you ruined the movie? It's like, Joel Schumacher, heal thyself. Oh my God. Is what I should have said to him.

It was Joel Schumacher, by the way, in the Batman t-shirt who yelled at us um but yeah batman and robin's ng no good yeah um but that song hold me thrill me it's a good good track yeah very good very good very good if they had made all of pop like that so how do you feel about pop know what? Let's get to it after the break. Alright. What do you say? Let's talk exclusively about pop when we come back to you talking you too to

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and I'll see you in your mouth. Welcome back to U2. You talking U2 to me? Adam has broken out some sort of energy bar. What do you got over there? It's a protein bar. Need a little prot? Need a little fuel.

Because while I do the podcast, and I don't think we've shared this with the listening audience yet, I'm constantly working out. That's true. We've never talked about that. No. It's very distracting. Doing curls right now. Doing curls, and I'm going to

hit the cardio right after I finish this protein B. A little prot bar? A little P bar. I'm getting a little P bar action on. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, very good. We're talking about U2's pop in this episode and this is a studio album. This is, I would say, their ninth studio album. I would say you're right. I would say you just studio album. I would say you're right. I would say you just looked at a computer screen when you said that.

I could do it without looking at the screen. Watch me. Okay, I'm looking right in your eyes. This is their ninth album. Okay, well, you just read it on the computer screen like 10 seconds ago. So I would also say it's a continuation of the band's 1990s reinvention as they pursued a new musical direction by combining alternative rock, techno, dance, and electronic influences. Yeah, I read that Wikipedia page myself like 10 minutes ago.

Pop. Let's talk about it. So this is a complicated album for U2 fans. I've kind of... The album is now what? 17 years old? It's an old album. It really is. No, not 17 years old. It was 1997

so yeah, it's 17 years old. 17 years old. That's almost old enough to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at this point. That is crazy that that was 17 years ago. Have you ever thought that you and I are old? We may be talking about a band that young people don't care for give a about and yet we're still here doing it every week

have you ever thought about that oh boy um i'm definitely thinking about it now do you like any young music by the way young music anything new or have you turned it off no yeah yeah i do every once in a while i hear something and i'm like that's very very good and i purchase it and listen to it great story what about you i i feel like you're more kind of up on current music than i am i try to i try to be current that's important to me because i don't i look around like I started seeing a lot of legacy acts we may have talked about this on a previous show but I've seen a lot of like the acts that I love from the 70s the 80s even

the 90s and it's the law of diminishing returns I get less and less out of it every time I see them for sure so I really want to keep current on music so I kind of made a rule to myself of like I only want to go out and kind of see new bands and I am always kind of getting the new songs um looking at the new charts yeah downloading yeah new stuff you got real weird there

okay so pop 17 years old at this point did you Did you like Haim's record they put out last year? Yes, loved it. It's a great album. Okay, see, there you go. Proof of the pudding is there in the crust. Adam Scott likes new music. Stop complaining about our dad rock. Is U2 dad rock?

I guess it kind of is. It is, yeah. I mean, look, one of their most recent albums is 17 years old. Man. It's dad rock. It's only like four albums ago is 17 years old. Man. It's dad rock. It's only like four albums ago, 17 years ago. They've really slowed down the pace. That is fucking crazy.

When you think about it, Boy in 1980, October 1981, War 82 or 83, Unforgettable Fire 84. I mean, they were on a tear. Yeah. And then they slowed it down to a glacial pace. Man. And now it's been since. It's been. It's been. It's been five years since their last album yeah it came out exactly five years and that one was not a hit it's like guys you can't take five years you can't take 10 years

in between your last hit when was vertigo 10 years ago was it 10 years ago at this point? 2004. Oh, God. Guys, come on. Get it out. This is probably why they're being so careful, is that they know they haven't... This is their last shot. They haven't had a hit album in 10 years. Well, at this point, though,

U2 is on top of the world when they're making pop, because they've had that record, Rock Toon Baby. Right. they've had that record, uh, right. Rock tune baby. Right. They've had Zoropa, which is, uh,

considered to be a very well received, very successful. Although in their minds, maybe it didn't sell as many as they would have liked passengers, a stumble for them, but they didn't call it you too. So even though it considered a stumble nowadays, they talk about it. Like they're sort of like, like it's not part of their real catalog.

We talked about this on one of our last episodes. I think they were disappointed by how it sold. Because even though it was a side project, they sort of were going, what if this side project actually catches fire? They didn't promote it or anything, though. You know how you are when you put out. Everything you put out sells millions and millions. Right.

And they just kind of wanted it to be. But at this point it's and they come out with hold me thrill me massive hit they're associated with batman for the rest of their lives they they uh when you do a song for a batman movie you're allowed as many free trips in the batmobile as you want are you serious they have to bring the batmobile to ire. Are you serious? They have to bring the Batmobile to Ireland anytime U2 asks for it and have to drive them to the grocery store and places like that. Are you serious?

Oh, man. We have to write a Batman song. We really should. What do you think our Batman song would be about? It would be about how cool Batman is. Okay, I think that's a good subject, but I would also love to fit in there just like talking about Bruce Wayne because that's my good subject but i would also love to fit in there just like talking about

bruce wayne because that's my favorite part of the batman movies i honestly i don't understand why when i'm watching a batman movie i'm loving watching this millionaire playboy and then all of a sudden it talks about this unrelated character batman he comes in it's like i want to watch bruce wayne bruce but bruce wayne Wayne is Batman. He turns into Batman. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? He, Bruce Wayne has the Batcave under his mansion. Yeah.

That's where he keeps his Batsuit and all of his gadgets. Wait a minute. Why don't they ever show him getting into the Batman costume? They do constantly. Make it easy on someone to understand this fucking cryptic film. You know what? Let's open up I Love Films. All right.

Hey, welcome to I Love Films. This is Scott. And this is Scott. And I love films. That's a coincidence because I love films. I know you do. Have you seen these Batman movies? I have seen every single Batman movie.

Why don't they make it clear that Bruce Wayne is Batman? Well, this is Scott talking. They do. Oh, you're right. This has been I Love Films. I Love Films. Very good. That was a good episode.

That was excellent. Excellent episode. So my point being, Scott, they're on top of the world at this point. You two can do no wrong. They've been mining irony. People, as we talked about in the Octoon Baby episodes, they're out there making phone calls, getting pizzas. He's dressed up like Mac Fisto,

and people are going, that's really funny. But they take a long break. I mean, the Zoropa tour probably ends in late 93, early 94, something like that. 94, I believe. And not only that, but this is the last time that U2 had ever put out two records kind of in a relatively short span of time. So they need a break. I'm not begrudging them a break. I'm the last person in the world that would begrudge these lads a break.

What? Why are you the last person in the world that would begrudge these lads a break. What? Why are you the last person? I am the very last one that would ever begrudge them. I'm telling you, I would hold out until everyone else on Earth has begrudged them. I could hold out longer is all I'm saying. No, I am the last one. Okay. Believe me, I'm stubborn, and I would outlast you.

I don't want to have a last one off with you. Well, it looks like we're going to. All right, well, from this moment on, we're going to try to outlast each other for begrudging them for taking a break. Okay. So listen to our final episode if you want to wrap up on this. We'll figure it out on the last episode. We'll see who wins.

Someone's going to need to go around the world and find out if every single person in the world begrudges them for taking a break i've heard that a lot of people are begrudging them at this point um but so they're taking a break but when we last picked up with them they're not sincere they're dealing with irony they're they're calling up george w bush or george hw bush on the phone they're they're just being funny they're being comedians they're being being smart, Alex. And then they come out with... But it's interesting because then Passengers is

just more of a moody, kind of sincere sort of thing. Sort of, even though it has that shitty Elvis song on it. Yeah, but then there's that great version of One. Did we talk about that on the Passengers episode? I don't think so. This great version of One they did as Passengers that I thought I had lost, but I found it the other day on my iPod. on the passengers i don't think so this great version of one they did as passengers that i

thought i had lost but i found it the other day on my oh ipod and it's pretty and it's a pretty incredible it's a passenger's version of oh okay i'd like to hear that i don't think i know that it's great um do you have it on your ipod because you can play it a little bit while i talk a little bit um yeah but the band as far as they know, and this is a problem with U2's career, in my opinion, ever since the beginning. They latch on to something and they go, people love this.

Yeah. And instead of going, you know what? Let's take a break. Let's not give them what we think they love. They go, let's give them more. They like irony? Let's give them all we think they love. They go, let's give them more. They like irony? Let's give them all the irony. Let's collect all the irony in the world.

Let's, let's, and here's what they started doing for pop, okay? They announced the record and the tour where? The Warehouse? No. Kmart. Kmart, I remember that. Kmart.

Why? Because the White House? No. Kmart. Kmart. I remember that. Kmart. Why? Because the Y house? No. Because Kmart is funny, I guess. Kmart is a bargain. If you're listening to this outside of the US, Kmart is a sort of a bargain bin store, department store that has a lot of cheap clothing, toys. They get of their the stuff very cheaply and they they pass on the savings to you now at the time the big k in kmarts they're all over the u.s and and because the pop mart tour pop mart kmart they think it's funny they decide to announce this tour in a kmart tying into the theme of the record yeah and good addition thank you i i think he's been staring at his ipod trying to find this thing while i'm running out the clock trying out the world's longest sentence until he finally gives me with his eyes uh oh i found it and instead i finally ended the sentence and you said yeah thanks buddy you're welcome um i i i feel like it was confusing for people who aren't you know huge mega fans it's like i think everyone just sort of thought oh so they're still kidding.

Yeah. I mean, it's been four years and now they're back. 1991, is that when Octoon Baby came out? Yes. So, okay, at this point, oh, you've been kidding around for six years? Yeah. When do you start to take this seriously again? Right.

Yeah, so for six years they've been joking around. They've been like, hey, we're the funny guys right now. I can't find it. Okay. You know what? Fuck you. This show has constantly been you saying, oh, I have that on my iPod, and then taking a million years, and then you never find the thing. I have it on the one that's like that in my car, but for whatever reason, it's not.

So, yeah. All right. Are you back in now? Can you concentrate on this? I'm back in. I'm very sorry. On what we're talking about? They come back. They announce a tour at Kmart.

I covered this. No, no, I know, but then they set up, they plug in, and what do they play? What do they play? I don't even know. Ugly Joe.

Oh, God. You remember that song? The B-side to discotheque. You're talking about Holy Joe. Holy Joe, I'm sorry. You're confusing it with Ugly Kid Joe. Ugly Kid Joe. If they had played Ugly Kid Joe, the Cats in the Cradle cover.

Fantastic. And just played Cats in the Cradle. That's all I wanted them to play. Can we play Holy Joe real quick? We can, yeah. Can you give me back my fucking thing that I put right there? Where is it? Oh, okay.

we can yeah can you give me back my fucking thing right there okay so we want to hear holy joe which is on what would that be on that would probably be on the discotheque probably let me look for it can you talk for a second while i try to find something i'm just wondering why if you're you two the biggest band in the world who Who I am not, by the way. No, I know. I'm just saying if you're one of the... You would have a press conference announcing your tour. You get all the press in the world there. And then while

everyone's listening... Everyone's wrapped. Everyone's ready. You plug in and you play a B-side to your upcoming single. A B-side that you will never play again. This was the last time they ever played it, I believe. It's not a particularly great,

a song that's not going to be on the new album. Look, I can't find this song. Are you serious? The shoe's on the other foot. Look, if I can find it on YouTube, I'm sure. Wait, YouTube? Yeah, YouTube on YouTube. I'm sure. Wait, YouTube?

Yeah, YouTube on YouTube. It's so that conjoined with the fact that they then put out Disco Tech as the first single and the video Disco Tech, I just listened to it on the way here. Disco Tech is actually not a bad song. It's a good song

but the video is like them dressed up as the village people. And so I think it was just confusing and everyone was kind of like already maybe a little burnt out culturally on that youtube yeah exactly already he'd been ready for the all that you can't leave behind thing i think before they were ready to do it that That said, I like this record. I like this record. I like a lot of this record. We talked on our last episode about, hey, if you

could come up with a better track listing for Pop, what would it be? I want to hype that I at least have brought mine. You probably forgot about yours. I can whip one up. You know what? Holy Joe from Kmart is on YouTube. Let's hear it.

Okay, here we go. Can you plug that in? Here we go. Holy Joe live from Kmart. This is what people who are coming expecting pride. I will follow. YouTube's back. Something.

Here's what they had to. Oh, wait. I don't have it. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Okay, here they are. They're entering Kmart.

Saying hello to the press. Could you maybe cut to when they actually actually play? Here it is. Oh, here we go. All right. Hey, it's U2. It's U2. This is a glimpse into their new record.

And he says, we're going to play a B-side. We can't do anything correctly. This is the beginning of a huge miscalculation. This is bad. This is just bad. They're Larry. Half-heartedly hitting a snare once or twice. They admitted later that they announced it at Kmart.

It's called Pop Mart. They weren't even sure what this was all about. What point they were trying to make. They decided that they wanted to go deeper into what they were trying to say with the Octoon Baby tour, the Zoo TV tour. Yeah. Which we talked about was kind of a master

stroke tour where still brilliant turn this on yeah um they they but they said it all you know what i mean and what else could you possibly have to say about about uh culture and about media culture and consumerism instead they wanted to go further into the consumerism angle. Would you give that to me, you fucking asshole? I reached out my hand for the cord. I'm not looking at it. You're playing- That was very funny.

Okay. So, Pop. Pop. okay so so pop pop as an album 17 17 years ago 17 years later that's how old this record is it's a 60 minute record uh their longest record i believe 60 minutes i will say listening to it today i listened to the first four songs just driving here, and I was like, all of these songs are like five minutes long. There are. The 519, 507, 549, 522. Let me put it into perspective for you. Thank you.

If you were to... Listening to this album is a lot like watching the popular television program 60 Minutes. I've seen that show. It takes as long to watch an episode of that as it is to listen to this record. Well, with commercial breaks and if you're watching it on TiVo, uh-uh.

Well, that's true. It'd be more like 44 minutes maybe. Yes, exactly. So it takes longer to listen to this than it takes to watch an episode of 60 Minutes on TiVo. You're right. That's insane! That's crazy. That's crazy. It's crazy.

Let's go song by song. Break it down. Let's do it. Okay, because there's a lot to like on this record, in my opinion. It starts with discotheque. Then we have two, as far as I'm concerned, two great songs.

Do You Feel Loved and Mofo. I love both of these songs. As far as I'm concerned, two great songs. Do You Feel Loved and Mofo. I love both of these songs. As far as I'm concerned, let's talk about what's going on in music at the time. You have the Chemical Brothers. You have Prodigy. You have a lot of people were saying that rock and roll is kind of dying out, and the electronic sound is going. Prodigy was huge right at this point.

Smack my, I don't even want to say it because I got in trouble for saying it on one of our earlier episodes, but smack my B word up. You did? What do you mean? A listener out there who's very nice, who I genuinely like, sold me out and told Co-op that I called her one on this show. You were totally joking. Just not taken well. Okay. Not taken taken well i don't even want to say the word okay um so in any case uh uh yeah that's it's a huge sound i was really into these these acts the chemical brothers yeah huge huge stuff um and so when you two is sort of dealing with

those kind of sounds, I got very excited because this is the future of music to me. Even Radiohead is putting out remixes of their rock songs that sound more electronica. And this is pre-Kid A. Yeah, this is three years before Kid A. So the sound of this record I actually really, really like. In fact, only half of it is kind of electronica.

Yeah. The back half is kind of straight-ahead rock music, and those are not my favorite songs. You know, there's a couple, like Last Night on Earth and Gone and Please, I think, are just great kind of old-school U2 songs. Just great songs. Just great songs. Just great songs. So if they had kind of, I feel like if they had gone for it and the whole record were electronica and shorter, then it would have been a really interesting record. Instead, you have 12 songs and some of them are Miami, The Playboy Mansion.

These are bad U2 songs. Yes. They are unfortunate songs. Legitimately bad U2 songs i i'm not a big fan of if you wear that velvet dress because it's like it's asking a musical question hey tell us what's gonna happen if she wears the velvet dress you know don't just raise the question and then say gotta go there's i don't i don't know about you scott but i'm not seeing a question mark at the end of that song title it's just a threat and i don't like musical threats so let's let's should we play the songs and kind of go through and

you play the songs that are actually on the actual record yeah yeah we can do that okay so we've we've talked about discotheque a lot we have not played it but i will if you want me to play that would be nice i will say it starts starts off very slow, but here we go. Disco Tech, it has a great sound. I mean, it's really, really, really good. If it would ever start, but here it is. The signature slow fade-up in the epic first song. That lets you know you're in for a doozy.

Put on a pot of coffee we're gonna be here a while we have a big slow fade up spazzing your seat belts we're going on a guilt trip okay just go to i i like this song i wish that it didn't evoke memories of them dressed up as the village people for me and the whole yeah but the the video's a bummer but when they came out and played it at the pop on the pop mark tour they came out of the lemon and played this acoustically and that almost like a course correction like they realized what they'd done wrong right and they playing this song acoustically you just bare bones you see that it's a really good song and there are better mixes of it than the one...

Very famously, this record was rushed to meet the deadline of the Pop Mart tour, and they are not happy with the mix of any of it. Right. That said, I kind of like the mix of some of this stuff because it's electronica, but they're not satisfied. They keep remixing these songs and putting out different versions of them. Especially... Let's cut over to Do You Feel Loved

we heard this coming into the show this was always my favorite song I love this song this is a great song it's just great songwriting

and it's a great meld of U2 and kind of the more electronica it's like when Spock does a mind meld between two minds

of two human beings yeah it's like that but it's melding styles. It's so well put. I can barely keep my dick in my pants. And then we have MoFo, maybe one of my favorite songs. I love MoFo. You know, it's something that you think would not age well and that we would all now hate, but it's still really good.

And this is the song they used to come out to, I believe, on the Pop Mart tour. Did you see this tour? Yes. I saw this tour with Doug Benson, comedian Doug Benson. We were super far away. We saw it in the Coliseum, I believe, which is just too big. Yeah. Super far away.

Finally, some people who worked for MTV saw Doug and said, come down to the MTV seats, which were kind of close. Yeah. And it was way better close up. Yeah. Just too far away. Yeah. He entered from the back of the stadium in a boxing robe with boxing gloves.

And they all and came out like a prize fighter up to the stage. I got to say, I rewatched this concert on DVD recently. And by the way, I had done it after watching rattle and hum like i went from rattle and hum the sparseness of that yeah nothing on the stage no accoutrement yeah to pop mart it is in just those years in between which is eight nine years in between it is such a massive difference the scale they are going for yeah is incredible it it was like since it was like I was a time traveler or something. Yeah, it's crazy. And I'd been deposited into the future.

It's only 10 years between those albums. It's a massive undertaking, and it was really impressive. I think this tour is actually, put the music aside, it's a very impressive tour. Put the message aside of the consumerism and all that, and the giant lemon and all the issues even the lemon is a really cool show-stopping moment it's just kind of dumb but they knew it was dumb and it was all i i just think they had hit the irony ceiling and it just stopped being as interesting in the middle of the tour it seemed like they realized that and they

started trying to be a little more sincere with stuff, but they were trapped in this tour with a giant lemon and a giant McDonald's arch. I know. But it is really cool. Willie Williams, their designer, is pretty brilliant and it was really cool looking. And the tour ended up being incredibly successful. It was a

really expensive tour and they had no sponsorship or anything like that they they were uh they almost went bankrupt why are they constantly almost going bankrupt because they spend all this money on these giant tours guys don't spend your own money well now like blackberry sponsored the 360 tour that's right and that's why i'm sure red came out on that and the bank of america we've talked about that here's if god will send his see i just can't take this song you don't like this one?

I do not like this song. Can we turn this up? Is this playing or? This is the one hit from the album, right? I don't think this was a hit at all. Well, a year later, it was on the soundtrack to the remake of Wings of Desire, the Nick Wiss gauge.

But it was a hit. I don't care. So? But we're talking about hits. Who was talking about it? You brought up hits. This is the one hit from this album. I don't care what So? But we're talking about hits Who was talking about You brought up hits This is the one hit From this album

I don't care I like this song I'm not I think there's maybe A better mix I just can't really Take this song Okay then we have

Staring at the sun Which no this was a hit At least on K-Rock Yeah they play I really like this song. Okay, then we have Staring at the Sun, which, no, this was a hit. At least on K-Rock it was. Yeah, they play it. I really like this song. I like this song a lot, too. I like it when the whole band kicks in, old school style. But then we move on to Last Night on Earth, which I like this song a lot.

I like this song, too. This is just a straightforward U2 rock song, and it's good. Uh-huh. And then, okay, then all of a sudden it's like, they describe this record as a party. The first half is a party, and then the second half is the hangover. They were trying to find a narrative to apply to this album.

Because the second half is kind of a bummer. Well, Gone. Gone's pretty good. Gone, I think, is a classic. I love this song. Let's hear it. Here we go. This is gone by

the band U2. Yeah. Bono, The Edge. Those are just, that's half of the lineup right there. There's four guys in the band.

Bono sings. The Edge is the guitar player. I think you're mixing those two up. Sorry. The Edge sings. Bono plays guitar. And then coming up in the rear with the rhythm section,

we've got Larry Mullen Jr. playing bass. Laying down the skins. And then Doug Freeborn is on drums. Doug Freeborn is my favorite. Gone is pretty good. This is a really great. The chorus is particularly great gone i'll just sing the chorus because we don't have time to get okay uh miami then we have

my not not not great not great and then the playboy mansion even worse talking about like coca-cola and michael jackson and it just sort of then, if you wear that velvet dress, I don't like threats, but not a bad song. Yeah? Please? I like Please. Please is awesome.

Please! You know, there's that, the Pop Heart EP, where the Please kind of melds into Where the Streets Have No Name. Do you have that one?

Maybe I do. I have Pop Art. No, Pop... Pop what? Pop Heart. Oh, yeah, yeah, I do. The Pop Heart EP. I believe I just got that. that one maybe i do i have pop art no pop pop what pop heart heart oh yeah i do pop heart ep i believe i just got that it's really pretty great then you have wake up dead man at the end which is about his dad right so we can't say anything about it no his dad has not passed away yet at this point i believe this is about jesus christ well oh wait old jc jhc i i think they they brought this song back for their last tour or the tour before i i've never been a big

fan of that song get your facts straight if you're gonna bring it up okay so um let's talk about you have a befuddled look on your face why is that you i believe they play let me see here i believe they played on the youtube on the 360 tour but okay um i'm gonna check that right now hey be my guest do something okay so so um not a lot of hits which is what really sunk this record right it never had a where the streets have no name it never didn't have a pride it didn't have a um beautiful day it didn't have anything right they came out with discotheque as sort of like hey here's our funny song oh no no one likes it yeah we're not weird al let's come out with discotheque as sort of like hey here's our funny song oh no no one likes it yeah we're not weird al let's come out with something a little more sincere staring at the

sun took a stab at it but just didn't hit people the way one hit people why do you think that is do you think they should have put staring up at the sun out first no i think they need a rocker first staring at the sun is maybe a good third single what do you think should have been the first single well i don't think they have a single on this record yeah that's the problem I think it's another zoo ropa in a way where there's nothing that's really a great single but they put out numb on their last record as kind of their novelty hidden they're like let's put out another novelties on and the the thing about zoo ropa was they didn't need a hit at that point

they were still writing writing baby yeah exactly this was more of a but this is four years they needed they needed something and what they came up with was disco feck and it did not deliver that said what are your impressions of the record and the tour at the time did you go see the tour i did go see the tour. I remember I got a ticket through one of those ticket agencies. Yeah, I got a ticket to ride. Good one. You're just mad, and you're just lashing out because of how I was treating you just three minutes ago. Yes.

Yes. Absolutely. So I remember me and my friends went down. We got tickets through a ticket agency and good story they were there no they were like it was like 200 for the for third row center and i remember were you a tv star at this point or a movie star i was nothing you were you because for a while you were a little boy you wanted to be a big boy. And I was like a medium boy who didn't know what the hell was going on. Okay.

So spending $200 on a concert ticket was a big deal. But at the same time, I was like, wow, it was pretty easy getting third row center at a U2 concert, a stadium. $200 is a lot of money, but I'll happily pay. And when we got there, the stadium was maybe half full. Wait, is this at the Coliseum? No, this was in San Diego. Okay, SD. SD.

Where Veronica Mars was set, which I, were you on Veronica Mars? I was on Veronica Mars. All coming for a whole circle here. Is that why you went to San Diego instead of LA? Went down to Sand Dog to see you two. No, this was the first leg of the tour, so I think they hit L.A. on the second leg. So I wanted to see them right away.

This was their second night of the tour because they opened in Vegas. This was their second night. So they were a little rusty. Vegas, baby. Vegas! Vegas! Vegas, baby!

Money! You are money, baby. You're so money, you don't even know it. You don't even know.. You don't even know. Do you wish you were in swingers? If you could do it all over again, trade everything that you have, all of your success in, and just be in swingers, and then disappear, and then be murdered, would you? In a second.

Wait a second. What's going on, Scott? What's going on, Scott? Is it... Was it 1995? I think it's 1995. Hello. Hi. Strange visitor.

Hi. Why are you wearing such futuristic clothes? A shirt with a stripe on it? I guess in the future we wear stripes more often than we did in 1995 i mean we wear stripes don't get me wrong just not like this not i mean that's amazing that's a wider stripe than i've ever seen anyway see you later all right i'm we're back we're back. Talking exclusively about pop this episode. So it was very weird to see them play a place that was perhaps half full. And we were close enough to see them. You could kind of tell they were a little bummed.

They're bumming. A little bummed. And I could see them still putting their all into the performance, into trying to give those who were there a big epic U2 show. But you could tell that there was maybe a little too much effort, and it wasn't quite there yet. The magic wasn't quite there. And they were maybe a little bit...

Because it was a little embarrassing to look behind us and see the entire top tier of the stadium just empty. But this is in San Diego, and top tier of the stadium just empty. Just empty. This is in San Diego and there's a lot of people would rather surf. Yeah, or go to Tijuana and drink tequila. See a donkey show. Which we did before the show.

We didn't see a donkey show, but we went to Tijuana. You went to TJ? With TJ? Our friend Tall John? I was there with TJ. Were you there with TJ? No, no, he wasn't. Okay. I don't think Tall John's a U2 fan. Have you ever been to a show with TJ? Yes. TJ. Our friend Tall John? I was there with TJ. Were you there with TJ? No, no, he wasn't. Oh, okay. I don't think Tall John's a U2 fan.

Have you ever been to a show with TJ? Yes. As have I. He likes to sit in the back. Yeah. He's a polite man. He's too tall. We saw Sonic Youth together.

Wait, which? Because we saw Sonic Youth together, TJ and I. At the Palladium. Oh, no, this was at a different place. So it must have been a different concert. I'd have to say, using two's clues, yes, it was a different concert i'd have to say using two's clues yes it was a different concert okay yes we talked about two's clues earlier in the show so but the show was was pretty good it was cool to see them that close that close at the time i you know it was amazing

but uh it was a little depressing a little depressing as was this record which kind of set them back and look they had just dug themselves out of the hole that they had dug for themselves with rattle and hum yeah with the one-two punch of octoon baby and zuropa and now all of a sudden they're back in that hole but it's interesting because this hole was dug, the hole from 10 years ago was too sincere, too serious. Like, oh, you love sincere? We're going to give you even more sincere. You like political?

We're going to give you even more political. And this one was the complete opposite, and it got them into the same hole. Which happens to them again, just to give you a preview of a future app, happens to them again 10 years later almost. Does it? It does, in my opinion.

And we'll get to that when we get to... I don't think it does. I think it does, but we'll talk about that. Okay. So let's talk real briefly before we have to wrap it up here. I brought my different mix of pop. And here's where I think if they'd put out this record, it would have been as good as Zoropa, which as we talked about in our last episode,

I enjoyed a lot. Here is what my mix is. You have, first off, and this is going to shock you. Okay. I think if they had started the record as they started their tour with pop music. Can you play that? Track number one.

Here we go. Let's listen to it. This is a B-side, a cover of M, pop music by M. What's M? M is a person who put out one song called Pop Music and then never put out anything ever again. But it was a New York, London, everybody talk about pop music. It was kind of an alternate hit. And they just covered it.

They just covered it, but they did it. This is the most electronic and most Chemical Brothers-y thing that they did. Yeah. And this was how they entered the stadium, if you remember, before they pick up their guitars. This sounds pretty awesome to me. I think liking this style of music and liking dance music and liking electronica, this sounded really cool.

And I think it's kind of interesting to start with a cover, especially a cover of a disposable song like pop music. So I think this sounds really, really good. I think it sounds really dated, and maybe it would have wasted... Would it have sounded dated at the time? No, it would have sounded like the date on the calendar when you looked up on it on your wall.

But I think this sounds more dated than anything I've heard. But I think they should have gone for the dated. Like, they were going... So is this U2's version? This is U2's version, yeah. Which, by the way, I put this on at the gym. I don't like to brag. I work out.

Yeah. I know you've been working out constantly. Yeah, I'm working out right now. You finally finished your cardio not moments ago. Are you in the cool-down portion? I'm in the cool-down portion. I'm going to start doing the ankle ups in like 10 minutes. Okay, very good. But I put this on at the gym and it gets me going. Oh, I bet it does, Scott. I bet it does. But in the tour, they segue from this into

the next song, which is MoFo. Let me give you a little piece of the segue that I would have done. I got to say, it would have been a much more gutsy start to the album. Instead of this kind of like, oh, we're going to do half sort of electronica and then half semi-rock music. It would have been. I like this idea you have. I think it's good. So then we go into Mofo, which is the hardest electronic that actually appears

on the record. After that, you go into Do You Feel Loved. Nice. Regular mix, okay. Already liking this album more.

It sounds really good so far. Then you go into Discotheque, but I'm using the hexadecimal mix that you find on the best of 1990 to 2000.

Hexadecimal mix. This is the hexadecimal mix right now. So you're going like hardcore electronica version of the album. So far. So far. I actually am going to do what they were saying of like, this is the party and then the after party. I'm just going a little further with the party into the mixes that I like.

Okay. Look that up. We don't have time to get into it now, but Discotheque, the hexadecimal mix. Then we go to Last Night on Earth, which is another great... But I'm going to do the single version. This is the single version of Last Night on Earth. A remixed version.

A remix. Actually, re-recorded, because for their singles, they re-recorded, I think, all of these songs. Wow. They really ate it to sell. They really just wanted to make it something that people would latch on to.

But I like this. Where's the single version of this? is it on the best of as well no it's actually on the single idiot wow this is different it's pretty good though i like it a lot i'm surprised you haven't heard this well i'm sure i have it all right then i to hear it. All right. Then I'm going to go with a B-side, North and South of the River. Great song. Great song. One of the only B-sides, and I believe it might be a cover of a friend of theirs. Oh, really? It might be a cover of a friend of theirs song.

I just can't believe they didn't put this on the fucking album. It's good. It's so good. It's really good. This is a great song. Check it out if you don't know it. Really good. This is a great song.

Check it out if you don't know it. And then I'm going to go with Staring at the Sun, the new mix from the best of 1990 to 2000. And then I'm going to go with Gone, the Mike Hedges mix from that same best of 1990 to 2000. I still kind of like the album version better. Maybe we'll swap in the album version and your version. But I just kind of went for something different.

Then I'm going to Please, the single version, again, a re-recording of this song. Please. Yeah. Let me fast forward a little bit through it. But it's got orchestral touches, and it's a little more like Hold Me, Thrill Me. God, they were, like like tortured about this album.

They re-recorded almost every song. And then I'm going to go with If You Wear That Velvet Dress. This is track 10 of 12. And then I will say If God Will Send His Angels, but single mix, so re-recorded version. You don't like it, but that's fine. And then I'm going Wake Up Deadman, which is how the album closes. And I think you have a better record.

Maybe you don't like If God Will Send His Angels, but it's buried deep. Is this a live version of Wake Up Deadman? No, this is the version that's on the actual pop. I think that sounds good. I would just take off Wake Up Dead Man and If God Will Send His Angels, and I would... Yeah, that sounds good. So you would just do 10 tracks.

10 tracks. That's plenty. Not bad. And that's a better record. Yes. You don't have Miami, you don't have the Playboy Mansion, you're in there. It's crazy that they put Miami and Playboy Mansion on and not north and south of the river it's crazy yeah and

there were other good b-sides like all those covers like fortunate now the fortunate son that was a b-side uh on i think it was staring at the sun or last night on earth that's not the maria mckee duet from the 80s is it i think it think it is, and they just put it, I believe so. Because it's very, Fortunate Son, it's very kind of 90s sounding. Right. Well, this was the 90s. No, but Maria McKee, that version is from the 80s, right? I think it was from Rattle and Hum.

We talked about this on a previous one. I think at the end of the 80s or something like that. Yeah, so I don't think it's the same version. I don't know. We'll never figure this out. But I will say that some of their other B-sides for this, you have Happiness is a Warm Gun, the Beatles song, a kind of fucked up version of that, which sounds really cool.

Some good stuff. I like this record. I like it better. I like my version better. I worked hard on this. I hope if you're out there and you have all these songs, put it together. By the way, the version of pop music that I start off with is not the nine-minute version. I faded, I cross-faded it into mofo, which is how the concert started.

So do that. After about five minutes, just cross-fade into mofo. Don't listen to the entire nine minutes if you don't want to. I enjoy the nine-minute version, but that's not how I would have done the record. And I think that, if not a hit, is at least a better record and one that would stand next to Zuropa. Come on, you mix. What are you doing?

I'm trying to find that version of Last Night on Earth. Oh, the single version? I can send it to you if you want. Yeah, please do. You don't have to sound so sarcastic, okay? I think you obviously put a lot of work into this. You put your little boy hands to work on your computer. I'm really happy that you did. It shows that you care about our show.

I do. And I feel like this album is troubled, but it has kind of moments of greatness in it. But overall, not my favorite. Not your cup of tea. Not my cup of joe. And do you ever listen to it? I mean, you obviously listen to it in order to prepare for the show, but for pleasure, do you ever, any of the songs come up and you go, hey, I like this?

When it came out, I listened to it so much. So much. come up and you go hey i like this when it came out i listened to it so much so much and is it one of those cases and we've talked about this where it's your favorite band and you're just willing yourself to like something the phantom menace syndrome yeah um a little i but it's not bad it's not a bad album it's just like after listening to it solid for like six months i realized it's not... I'm never going to enjoy this. I'm never going to love if you wear that velvet dress.

You know, Michael Jackson put out a bad album. Worked out great for him. That laugh sounds semi-insincere. Well, we're going to have to wrap it up for another episode. Yeah. A successful one, I thought. Very good. Very good.

Anything else you want to say about pop before we close it up? I mean, we've said everything that we need to say. At this point, it's definitely safe to say that you two need to surprise us and do something different. It was time for them to go away and dream it all up again. Again. They need to chop down the Joshua Tree and this record. The Pop Tree. We have something special coming next week.

We are going to not go into All That You Can't Leave Behind, where instead we need to dick around even more in order to make sure that we put out enough episodes until the new record comes out. But what's the other reason for... Well, we have a very special guest coming in our next episode. Do we want to hype who's going to be here with us? Hey, why not?

Hey, special guest, do you want to say who you are? Yes. There you go. That's all we're going to give you. And maybe some background laughs you may have heard once or twice throughout this episode of the show. Very generous background laughs, I might add. So, you know, until next week, this is Adam Scott Aukerman. This is Scott.

This is Scott, too. And we hope that you found what you're looking for. See you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye. Earwolf This has been an Earwolf Media Production. Executive Producers Jeff Ulrich and Scott Aukerman.

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