U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - U Talkin' U2 To Me? - The Unforgettable Fire

Episode Date: March 5, 2014

Adam Scott Aukerman say hello to family, friends, and U2 fans as they dive into U2's fourth studio album The Unforgettable Fire. They’ll talk about where their little boy selves were at the time of its October 1st 1984 release, the significant event that occurred at 1985‘s Live Aid that made U2 superstars, and what their impressions of the album are today. Plus, they’ll share some of their favorite movie quotes in the return of their podcast “I Love Films.”This episode is sponsored by Squarespace . Use offer code BONO for a free trial.

We've got Squarespace sponsoring today's episode of You Talking U2 to Me. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform that makes it fast and easy to create your own professional website or online portfolio. For a free trial and 10% off, go to squarespace.com and use offer code BONO. From boy to boots, get them on, that is. This is You Talkin' U2 to Me, the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things U2. Of all things U2, I am your co-host, Scott Aukerman, and across the table from me is my co-host, Adam Scott, and together we are Adam Scott Aukerman. Thanks, Scott. This is Scott talking. I would like to start this program off with just saying hello to everyone out there. I would also like to say hello to my family. I would also like to say hello to my friends and my fans,

and also to Bono, to The Edge, to, I would like to say hello to Larry Mullen Jr., and I would like to say hello to Larry Mullen Jr. And I would like to say hello to Adam Clayton. Back to you, Scott. Hey, thanks, Scott. This is Scott talking and welcome to the show. This is episode two. And boy, that was exciting to hear Scott over here

say hello to all those people. That was an exciting part of the show. Oh, there's one more. I would like to say hello to all the people out there listening to the podcast. I believe you started out with them. Oh, did I? But yeah, but that's okay. But I'm glad you got your family in there.

So they're number two to you. Oh, I would like to say hello to my family. Okay. Yep. Covered them. Great. But fantastic. Did you like to say hello to my family. Okay. Yep. Covered them. Great, but fantastic. Did you want to say hello to your fans, though? Yeah.

Sorry. Did I forget to? Yeah, you may have forgotten. I would like to say hello to my fans. Yes. Fantastic. Okay. How many fans would you say you have, Adam Scott, of Parks and Recreation, of movies

like Step Brothers, which I just recently rewatched, and fantastic stuff. I was in that. What? Step Brothers. I had a role in it. Wait, which brother were you? I played, there was John C. Reilly. Okay.

There was Will Ferrell. You haven't said hello to them, by the way. I would like to say hello to John C. Reilly, and-huh. And I would like to say hello to Will Ferrell. God, I hope they're listening. Oh, well, even if they're not, I would just like to say hello to them. So are you going to tip them off that you said hello to them through this podcast? Yeah. But if you're listening, Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly, I would just like to remind you to listen to the podcast.

You talking U2 to me. And I would also like to just say hello to you. U2, the band, of course. We got to say hello to them. You have Bono. Bono. The Edge. The Edge.

Of course. You have Larry Mullen, not senior but junior. Junior. I would assume, I've never investigated this, and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, I would assume that his father is just Larry Mullen. Sure, that's usually how it works, yeah. But after he had a junior, he can then call himself a senior, I believe. Of course.

But before junior is born, it's just Larry Mullen. Do you think there's a Larry Mullen III? And if he ever introduces himself, wouldn't he have to say, I'm Larry Mullen III? Huh. I knew, I grew up with my friend who was a third, and he was very proud of it. Huh. Did he have it on his, when he would write his name at the top of his paper? Really?

The Roman numeral three, right up there. It was Edward P. Berry. I remember it was EPB 3 is what we called him. Wow. It's like he's a sequel. Yeah. And usually by number 3, Superman 3, not so good. Usually by 3, you got Richard Pryor in there. Yeah. You got Ewoks. Who directed Superman

3? Probably Richard Lester. You ever work with Lester? Never worked with RL. Probably Richard Lester. You ever worked with Lester? Never worked with R.L. Looking for Lester? But I will say that he made some really good movies, including Superman 2. He directed a good portion of it. Yeah. He maybe didn't direct the good portion of it.

Yeah. Yeah, there's the Richard Donner cut. Yeah, the Richard. Well, you know, I mean, it's so hard to tell because so much of what I liked about Superman. By the way, this is a YouTube podcast and we're talking about Superman 2 and 3. I'm just going to make a mental note. We should start a podcast on Superman 2. Okay, great.

Yeah, we'll talk about both the differences between the Lester and Donner Cut and then just the regular Richard Donner Cut. No, it'll be you talking Superman 2 to me. To me. By the way, welcome to the show. This is, of course, Adam Scott is over here. I'm Scott Aukerman, host of Comedy Bang Bang, both the way welcome to the show this is of course adam scott is over here i'm scott ackerman host of comedy bang bang both the podcast and the tv show this is the show where we talk uh we just talk everything you too we talk um like i said it's a comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things you too we're going to talk about everything to where you don't have to

read anything else about you too you don't have to listen to any other podcast you don't have to read anything else about U2. You don't have to listen to any other podcast. You don't even have to think about them. No. In fact, we would prefer you didn't after this. Just press stop and then never think about them ever again. Just choose us on the old podcast app, press play, and no more worries, guys. Nope.

We're going to cover it all. But I do have to talk about the name. You Talking U2 to Me? Yeah. Several people have suggested that it should be U2 Talking U2 to Me because we are two people. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, we can't change it. We don't even know when this is going to come out, so we can fuss with the title all we want.

We already did a whole episode where we say it over and over and over again i know but i'm just thinking it would be weird if we change the title now the first one comes out and they're like they're not saying the title right i yeah you're right but i i also think that no one will notice or care you don't think anyone's going to be listening to this well i think you know maybe people will listen but i don't think they'll care i did i i beg to differ i think i listened to the first episode uh in between we've taken a lengthy break in between recording what about three four years oh and three weeks yeah it was three weeks in addition to the three or four years yeah that's which is how we say time by the way you to say weeks first and then the number of years.

Last time, well, that's the way I do it because I'm from Santa Cruz. Last time we got together, No Line on the Horizon had just come out. Just come out. So it was like three, four years ago. And we loved it. But we'll get to that episode. Let me just – I can't wait to get to the – can I just throw something in here?

I can't wait to get to the episode where we cover uh atomic bomb how to dismantle an atomic yeah i can't wait for that that's gonna be a fiery exchange i have a no pun intended a bombshell oh boy uh with that record oh here we go well that's gonna let me explain just a little bit re-explain the premise obviously if this is your first episode you're listening to go back and listen to number one because that was a a treat to record uh what we do here is we sit and we talk about the band you too adam scott similarly voiced to i reached out to me via email which i think is a polite way to reach out to sure you you type up an email on your computer on your iphone or your ipad send it off to your buddy. It's as easy as that.

Yeah. And the buddy gets it. At some point. Instantaneously. It's sometimes, you know, though it takes a little bit of time. Well, if there's problems with your DSL or your Wi-Fi. Yeah, you know, and sometimes they're not around a computer, they're not around a phone.

Oh, sure. I mean, sometimes you're watching a movie, you're taking a nap. Sure. Look, there's all sorts of explanations for what you might be doing. I was just going to give a couple of examples if you don't mind. No, I'd love to hear a few more. Taking a shower, making a sandwich, putting your kids to bed.

Putting your kids to sleep. Putting your kids to sleep. Drawing a picture of a penis. Sure, you may be doing that. Why wouldn't you? a penis sure you may be doing that why wouldn't you i i would love to know what percentage of our listeners are drawing a picture of penis as they listen to this i i mean here's the thing is that i think that's it's always it's always safe to assume that it's like a healthy 40 percent i would love to see by the way the uh some of your fan art from the first episode.

Thanks so much for whoever made fan art. I'm assuming people did. We're taping this in advance of the release of the first one. But I'm assuming there will be a lot of posters of Adam's face with the quote, This is good rock and roll music. Is that something that I said? Yeah. Well, we encouraged people to make fan art.

Right. I just don make fun of that. Right. I just don't remember saying that. Well, at one point you unironically said, this is high quality rock and roll music. Because we were listening to War. To War. And you just blurted that out. This was four years ago. So I'm just trying to remember.

Sure. I just listened to it three years ago. So it's a little more fresh in my mind. But, you know, it's just a couple days ago I listened to War again because I was like, man, that was great rock and roll music. It was high quality. But I did, I put it on in the car and I listened to it and I was like, God, this is so good. In the last episode, let me just explain the premise. We go through phases or periods, as we call them, of U2's career, and we talk about them chronologically.

Yeah. And we're going to flip the script a little bit in this episode. I'll talk about it. But in our last episode, we talked about the early phase of U2's career. We talked about the records boy, October, war, and also Under a Blood Red Sky. October War and also Under a Blood Red Sky we hit upon

at one point early in the show we had talked about how U2 one of our favorite bands sure but inconsistent albums

and we said they do not have a perfect album yet then we listened to every track from War yeah and I think we hit on

their most consistent record although I will say that in preparation for this episode i listened to unforgettable fire on joshua tree and we'll get to it yep but i think joshua tree is uh maybe a perfect album as well so we'll we definitely will talk about that so we we hit as we were listening to it we just hit upon how much we liked war yeah it's great it's a great it's a great record you re-listened to it any thoughts since the last episode um no great no right i feel well that's been our show i i i was just kind of the the sense that

they were like all right let's stop fucking around. We fucked around a lot during October. It was all fucking around. We could have called that record The Fuck Around Gang, Fucks Around, P.S. We Fucked Around. You could call that album One Good Song and then a bunch of fucking around. Yep. And legally, they could not argue with it. No, no one could legally because a couple people have been trying to argue with that.

That's an interesting point that we did not cover in the last episode is that whatever you title a record legally has to be accurate to the record. Yeah. So, for instance, a lot of – by the way, through the episode, I'll be talking a lot about U2 trivia so that you never have to listen or read any magazine article about U2 ever again. But the record October, they recorded it all within the month of October. Yeah, and War, as you know. Sure, you're pointing to me. Oh, I thought you were going to say why it's called War. Oh, no, but you go ahead.

Oh, sure. You started the sentence, and I'm not in the habit of interrupting. Well, War was recorded over a five-month period, which is one of the reasons it's much better. But all they ate during the recording of the album— Was raw fish. Yes. And they put it backwards, because technically you can—whatever you title the record, as long as it's frontwards or backwards it has to be accurate it was actually there was a representative from the record company uh dropping by dublin to get um the master tapes and he said what's the name of the album today's

a deadline and the edge was the lads from liverpool they were saying yeah well we well we ate a lot of raw fish well we did it raw fish and they And they had raw written on a piece of paper, and the Edge was like, ah, this record company guy, just get off my back. And he was sitting in front of a mirror, and he just held the piece of paper up. He's like, this is it. Yeah.

And the record guy, he can't see what the Edge is doing. He looks in the mirror. He was half blind. Yes. And the other half, not that great either. He was like three quarters blind. And looking at half, not that great either. He was like three quarters blind. Yeah. And looking at the word raw in the mirror.

In the mirror. Boy. And you know the rest? Rock and roll history. Rock and roll history. Yeah. So we're going to be dropping little pieces of trivia like that. Trivia bombs.

Yeah, I like to call them trivia bombs as well, yeah. Well, me too. I just called them that. Well, I like to do it is what I'm saying. Well, I just did, so. Okay. Well well all right boy we're you know what hey it's tough sitting across the table from this guy no no no no no no no break yet we're just getting started okay okay so this episode we are going to talk about the unforgettable fire yeah and we're going to talk about joshua tree as well as wide awake in america which is

an ep they put out in between those two records sure uh we were going to talk about rattle and hum but we're going to save that for the next episode i think rattle and i think it belongs it's part because they tend to move in three three record movements but i and i think rattle and hum is part of this movie it is but it But it ended up being its own albatross. Its own thing because we got to talk about that in the next episode because it became a whole thing. So it's an entire episode dedicated to Rattle and Hum. Possibly. Okay.

We'll see what happens. All right. But let's focus on today. This episode we're going to talk about the Unforgettable Fire and about the Joshua Tree as well uh the joshua tree as well as wide awake in america and that whole period we're going to talk about live aid the cover of rolling stone time cover of time magazine well yeah that's what i meant time magazine oh okay i thought you were just talking about time no no one no one's ever been on the cover of just like what this general sense of because i've heard a lot about hey i made the cover of time and i assumed it was the cover of the concept of time no that's impossible um or maybe it is

possible i mean if you really think about time as sort of an abstract concept then one could cover it you're really turning me around on this thank you so much um and then also the Joshua Tree Tour, which sort of took over America. I mean, I remember it. It lasted for a long time. So we're going to get into it. And we're also going to just talk about our personal relationship to this music. So if you didn't hear the first episode, we talked about how we started to like the band, where we first heard them, why we like them. And do you mind if I talk about what you said to me

after we recorded the episode? And, you know, if you're not okay with it, we can... Get the fuck out of my face. Can we talk about that? Because I thought it was weird that you showed up again to this. Sure, we could talk about that.

If it's not okay to talk about what you said to me afterwards we'll just we'll we'll hear a beep and then we'll just pick right back up okay what did i say you said to me we were talking about oh it's great that we did this we had a lot of fun great and you said to me that you needed someone to talk about this stuff with because your wife will not let you talk about you two anymore at home yeah i think that that is it is it somewhat similar with kulop is she like enough already with talking about the 50 year old guys in the band no kulop listened to the first episode she thought it was really funny okay okay uh that said there are certain things that she just does not care.

Well, I will tell you two in particular that if a song ever comes up, she will make fun of me. No, three in particular. She will make fun of me endlessly. The three bands are Skritti Politti, Prefab Sprout, and Pet Shop Boys. Okay. All three of those, if a song ever comes- Why, because you were really into those bands at one time? Well, look, I'm still into Scritty Politty.

Wait. You're still into Scritty Politty? They're great. Okay. I'm into those records. Do they still exist? Technically, he put out a record maybe three years ago. I went to go see him live at the Roxy, and I got there early.

I think the show was at 8. I got there at 8.10 because I was like, this is going to be a mob scene. I want to make sure. This is the first time he'd toured in 20 years, 30 maybe. Sure. I want to make sure that I'm close and I'm not sitting in the back. I got there. No one was there.

No. And the Roxy holds 500 people i believe and uh by the end of the night there were maybe 300 there wow not a problem getting a bird's eye view of that wow was it um were you like this is great i got the best seat in the house this is a great show or was it more just depressing uh It was good. It was good to see him. I love Cupid and Psyche 85 and Provision. I don't know what any of that is. I mean, I know their one hit that was a terrific song. Yeah, those two records are just flawless, I think.

By the way, you're listening to you talking U2 to me, and we're talking about Scritty Politty. But no, something about his voice, Kulop makes fun of me so much about. Sure. Because he started the latest record with a song called Boom Boom Bap, which is he's very into hip-hop,

even though he doesn't necessarily do hip-hop music. But he has this gentle voice. If you've never heard of Skritti Politti, go lookhop music, but he has this gentle voice. If you've never heard of Skritti Politti, go look him up, but he has this gentle, gentle, like almost girlish voice. Yeah. And the song starts with,

a-boom-boom-bap. And she will not stop making fun of that band just because of like, I was like, hey, this is one of my favorite bands. New record, let's listen to it. A-ap and it was done and she she'll she latches onto that and will she latches onto that prefab sprout has a similar kind of voice she makes fun of that and then uh pet shop boys had three unfortunate songs uh new york city boy and I'm With Stupid, and another song that are just like really dumb and obvious singles that I hate. But once she heard those, she was like, would make fun of me forever.

If you don't mind me saying, so Kulop's being a bit unfair. She's being a bit of a bitch. Yeah. Kulop, stop being such a bitch. Hey, Kulop, if you're listening, which hopefully you will be, much like when we listened to episode one in the car together. Hey, stop being such a bitch. Hey, Kulop, if you're listening, which hopefully you will be, much like when we listened to episode one in the car together. Hey, stop being such a bitch. Because every band is going to have some shitty songs. Sure.

And we'll talk about U2's shitty songs. Yeah, they have a bunch of shitty songs. But what is Naomi's deal with U2 and you? I think she would also listen to the podcast and probably think it's funny and prefer it to me talking to her about U2. What are the conversations that you've had? About U2? Yeah. I think that, I mean, we've been together a long time, so I think that by the time, and I brought her to a couple U2 shows, and she thinks they're great, but she doesn't want to sit around and talk about them.

So are you ever like, hey, hun, what is your favorite U2 record? No, it's more like when that LA Times article came out, I was like, oh, my God. And I was so excited about all this new information. About the new record coming out. She was in the kitchen, and I was sitting at the table record coming out. And yeah, I, she was in the kitchen and I was sitting at the table and. And you went, oh my God. Yeah, and I started. She said what?

Kind of telling her, you know, like, oh, this is going to be great for the podcast because there's all this information. And she is fine. I can just tell she doesn't give a shit. Right. You know, I mean, she's not an asshole about it, but I can tell she does not care. And right you know i mean she's not an asshole about it but i can tell

she does not care and then you said to me that you you needed someone to talk to you because you know you go on youtube message boards and read and the the idea of adam scott out there on youtube message boards do you do you use an a do you post do you use an alias? I don't. I just read. You read them. There's that one. Do you lurk? There's that website at YouTube. I do not know it, but I'll take your word for it. I mean, you have no reason to lie.

No, I'm not. I am not lying. This is a real website. You can check it right now. You can check it on your iPad. I'd prefer to hook you up to a lie detector on your smartphone. I don't have any of those things around me, so if I could just hook you up to this lie detector. You literally have, there's a computer in front of you.

No, this is a lie detector. I'd love to hook you up to it. Oh, it looks like a laptop. It looks like a MacBook Air. Bring your wrist over here if you would. It's a website called AtYouToo. Okay. It's a real website.

Wow, you're kind of nervous here. Well, I'm nervous because I've never been on in front of a microphone before. Just try to calm your heart rate down if you could. Is your name Adam Scott? No. I mean, yes. Oh, man.

I'm seeing the needle jump. Well, I said no. Yeah. Why are you lying about your name? I'm not lying about my name. Well, one of those is a lie. You said no, then yes. No, I said no just because I was nervous about the microphone.

You know what? I can't get a consistent reading if you're not going to give me a straight answer on some of these. Okay, fine. It's not a real website. I could tell. I could tell it's not a real website. I know you could. And you know,

I don't appreciate the lack of trust. You know what? I got to hold your feet to the fire on this website thing because you're a guy. Look, we talked about it last time. You're an actor. You're used to making shit up

in your crazy head. Yeah, but I just wanted the safety of this fake website. Why would you make up a website? an actor you're used to making shit up in your crazy head yeah but i just wanted i wanted the safety of uh this fake website why would you make up a website and why would you make up a hairstyle your famous hairstyle that you that i need my haircut oh god and so you have to make up a style go into the barbershop let me have the ocherman it's like why why did you have to do that why did you thankfully so many people are getting them now that it's really. I know.

How much money do you make per year on the hair? Just the hairstyle. Just from the hairstyle. Well, you know, I make whatever you tip the hairstylist. So keep those tips coming because I, you know. You get all hairstylist tips? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For even hairstyles that are not my own.

Wow. In the whole country? Country, world. You get hair, not a lot of tips outside the US, I gotta say. People kind of take haircuts for granted outside the US.

By the way, you're listening to you talking YouTube to me. No, I go on that website because, but once their new record is released, I usually stop just because you want to experience it on your own well no i just want to get all the information or know if like if there if something's leaked i can listen to that and that's the only place where you get that information right so you're out there reading the boards you want to communicate with people i don't

really read the board so much i just read like the. Like they have like a link to an NME article or something. You should, when this comes out, you got to read the boards. You got to communicate with the fans. People want that from you. They want to talk you too to you. Right. And you know. Wait a second.

Are you talking you too to me? You two are talking you too to me. You two talking you too to me? See, I think you talking you two to me works better. Well, you know what? We're never going to figure out the answer to that question. So are we going to get a picture of the taxi driver thing? Are we going to get a...

Well, for Analyze Fish, the podcast, we put Harris and I's face over the Analyze This poster. Yeah. So it should be, I guess, Robert De Niro on the taxi driver poster, but both of our heads coming out of his neck? Or our faces on the rattle and hum cover. Okay, yeah, because that's just the two guys, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'd like that. Yeah, why don't we do that?

If you're seeing this and we didn't do that, what's wrong with us? Well, oh, wait a second. This is weird. wrong with us? Well, oh, wait a second. This is weird. You know what? I'm going to wait a second. Scott from the future just walked in the room. Hello. Scott, what are you doing?

What's that weird see-through shirt you have on? Is that something that's popular in the future? Oh, yeah, yeah. Everyone wears see-through shirts just to show off your nips. Oh, that's crazy. So that's happening six months from to show off your nips oh that's crazy so that's happening six months from now yeah nips are really popular six months from now and just people want to show them off you know what i mean nips look great thanks man hey you know what i'd love to see your nips that's mainly the big reason why i came back oh really well i mean i'll show

you my nips anytime what did we end up using for the uh for the for the kind of main branding logo for you talking you too to me you oh wait you two talking you too to me you too you too oh is that what we ended up calling it yeah we ended up calling it okay yeah uh we ended up using you know the will ferrell and nicole kidman bewitched poster yeah we just put our faces over that why would we do that we were fucking high huh we thought it was really funny well that is an iconic poster it is but hey let's put all that aside let me check out those nips oh yeah is that what they're doing in the future why does your shirt make that noise that's your shirt that this shirt is from the past oh okay i got it hey

man checked him out that's all i wanted to see okay i am out of here bye sc is from the past oh okay i got it hey man checked him out that's all i wanted to see okay i am out of here bye scott from the past it's my past wait scott from the present uh-huh why didn't you even talk to scott from the future aren't there things you want to know i'm good see you later man see you man again you're talking to you're you're talking to... You're talking to... You're talking U2 to me? You're talking U2 to me. Okay. Tell you what. We got to take a break.

Yeah. When we come back, we're going to get into the unforgettable fire. We got a lot to say about this, and we hyped it a little bit on the episode last. This may be one of our favorite U2 records. And maybe one of our least favorite U2 records. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

We'll come back. We'll take a break. We'll come back more from Scott and Scott. And this is you talking U2 to me. This is good rock and roll music. We'll be right back. Hey, everyone. want to tell you about Squarespace?

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All right, we're back. This is you talking you two to me? You talking you two to me is you talking you two to me? You talking you two to me? You talking you two to me? You talking you two to me? You talking you two to me? Hey, you two, I'm walking here. I'm walking here.

Famous movie quotes. Go. Go. Here we go. By the way, we do, before we get into the unforgettable fire, we need to do a little section on the show called I Love Films. Mm-hmm. All right.

This is I Love Films. Hi. Hi. I'm Scott. I'm Scott. And let's talk about films. Scott, what's your favorite famous movie quote? Famous movie quote.

Well, you know, I got to make you an offer you can't refuse. Oh, that's a good one. That's from the Godfather film. Which, in my opinion, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but for me, that film, one of the best. Oh, one of the best movies of all time. Probably of all time. I'm going to go, I don't care what anyone says, I think the first two Godfather movies are two of the greatest movies.

Two examples of good movies, I would say. Great filmmaking, yeah. Another quote that I like is, Hey, Scarlet, call me if I give a damn. I think it's, frankly, my dear, I just don't give a damn. Call me once you give a damn. No. Yeah.

I mean, I think it's incorrect. I mean, generally, you're right, but I think it's- You think the movie was incorrect? No. When it said, frankly, Scarlett, give me a call. No. If you ever- Okay. The thing is, is the movie didn't say that in the movie

it got it wrong charlton heston got the famous quote wrong frankly my dear i don't give a damn is that before or after he talked about prying something from someone's cold dead hands oh yeah because this was all in the third Planet of the Apes yeah yeah yeah exactly it was after that and before get your damn hands

pry your cold dead hands off of me you damn dirty apes and frankly Scarlett as a footnote I don't give a damn if you do or not right

yeah great great stuff well this has been I Love Films yeah great great stuff well this has been i love films all right great theme song for i love films yeah back to uh back to you talking you two to me um by the way bono if you're listening we haven't heard from you yet hit us up backstage passes uh would just give us you know an hour hour and a half of your time to be on an episode um would love to talk all things youtube with you

i doubt you'll have anything to add to the conversation but because we're covering it all but uh and maybe maybe a couple youtube t-shirts thrown into the deal. Hey, I'm not going to argue with a free U2 t-shirt. I would never argue with that. I'd prefer a large. If you need to figure out our sizes first, I prefer a large. What do you wear? Medium.

Just a medium. Great. I'm a little bit taller than Adam here. Three years older. We talked about that on the last episode. I'm a little bit taller. So you know what? Hit me up with a large.

Give a dog over here. Medium. Medium right there. You know what? Any U2 t-shirt is fine. Yeah. I'll take anything. I'll take anything from boy to boots. You know, I think that, I mean, I would prefer a vintage U2 t-shirt. I'm sure back in Dublin they have a warehouse filled with old U2 t-shirts. Sure. I would love maybe something from the war tour. Sure. I would prefer a t-shirt that he actually wore that doesn't say U2 on it because then I could wear it anywhere and not have to explain it. I would like a...

Just a Hanes white t-shirt that that he's worn yeah at some point or a like a a death leopard t-shirt of bono's yes that he never wore but he's had it in his drawer for like 30 years never sweat on no no no then he just presents it to you yeah in a glass like framed i would prefer like a glass case yeah like a museum quality glass case that i could then like a break when you say museum you mean planet hollywood style yeah yeah yeah okay great so bono hit us up with those um if it's i mean if it's no trouble but do it like put a little effort in yeah you know we're we're big fans and we have this podcast devoted to you t-shirts it's not a big deal look just an hour and a half of your time

throw a couple of t-shirts in you can even throw them in at the end keep us in suspense museum quality glass case that's all we want all right let's get to it scott what do you say this is scott by the way yeah sorry this is scott let's do it let's listen let's start in let's talk about the unforgettable fire the unforgettable fire the unforgettable fire Fire! The Unforgettable Fire! The Unforgettable Fire! The Unforgettable Fire? Hey!

You talking you too to me? Hey, the Unforgettable Fire. You talking you too to me? By the way, Scott, this is Scott speaking. Scott, who, what impressions talking you do to me? Hey, the unforgettable fire. You talking you do to me. By the way, Scott, this is Scott speaking. Scott, who, what impressions do you do? People want to know. I do Robert Shaw.

I do. I don't want to hear any of them, by the way. No, no, no. I do Yafet Kodo. Okay, great. From Homicide and Midnight Run. Of course. I do. That's it.

Okay, great. All right. Love to hear those on a different podcast, but not this one, because this is... You talking to you too? To me? You talking to you too to me?

Midnight Run. We're on a Midnight Run. Do we need to open back up I Love Films again? Talk about Midnight Run? I mean, maybe. Alright, let's open it back up. Alright, this is I Love Films. I'm your co-host Scott. Hi, this is Scott. I love films. I love films too.

Hey, you know what? It's a good thing we have this podcast called I Love Films. Hey, it is, yeah. Here we go. Let's talk about Midnight Run, huh? Oh, Midnight Run. Martin Brest. Mm-hmm.

Came out in 1988. Of Gigli, director of Gigli. Director of Gigli, director of Meet Joe Black. Mm-hmm. Not a good director, other than... No, he made some great movies. Well, he made Midnight Run. And Beverly Hills Cop.

Yeah, that's all right. And Scent of a Woman. Scent of a Woman. Hey, you talking Uto to me? Hey, there you go. Hoo-wah! Al Pacino. See?

Al Pacino, right there. He's a big fan. Al Pacino. I would say he's made one good movie and a pretty good one. Beverly Hills Cop is great. I think it's okay. It holds up very well. Does it?

I'll check it out again. I love films. I love films. This has been I Love Films. All right. Good episode. Yeah, that was terrific. Good episode.

All right. We're going to sell that separately, right? How much money do we make from doing this, by the way? We'll talk, that was terrific. Good episode. All right. We're going to sell that separately, right? How much money do we make from doing this, by the way? We'll talk about that another time. But it's not a small amount. Great. Still, we could use those t-shirts. Yeah, by the way, have we thrown it out there that we would, first of all, we want at least 90 minutes of time.

I would say at least 90 minutes. We're going to need a good 90. And a couple fucking t-shirts wouldn't hurt. Hey, Bono, two t-shirts? I mean, go hit up your merch guy. Hey, just go over to the table. Go, hey, Bono, show him your ID. Yeah.

I'm the singer in the fucking band Point at the shirt You're probably on it And just go See Me Him Him

Me Him Him I got a couple of guys Yeah Can I just get two free ones These guys They do a podcast

Okay Give me a fucking shirt It's a couple fucking t-shirts Okay And come back to us And be like Guys I got your hookup

With your t-shirts right here. Listen, I like the podcast, okay? Here, here's a t-shirt. Is it going to kill me

to give him two free t-shirts? It's not going to hurt anybody. It's just t-shirts. T-shirts! They're the cheapest type of shirt. You go to the concert,

you pay 40 bucks, you get the fucking t-shirt. We want it for free because we're doing the fucking podcast. Yeah, we have 40 bucks. Yeah,

sure. Hey, listen, look, we both have $40. I'm not going to lie. I would prefer the $40 maybe to spend on myself, on something that I would enjoy more than a U2 t-shirt. Yeah.

And by the way, how about an advance of that album? Hey. It's coming out. Yeah. We're not going to leak it. You know what I mean? Come on. You can trust us.

Look, we're in the entertainment industry. We work in Hollywood. We get it. We're anti-piracy. Oh, for sure. You know what I mean? For sure. Do you see that, Captain Phillips?

Do we need to open it back up? Let's open it back up again. Okay. All right. This is I Love Films. This is your host, Scott. Hi. This is Scott. I Love Films. This is your host, Scott. Hi, this is Scott. I Love Films.

And we're here to talk about Captain Phillips. And I thought it was pretty funny when you watched Captain Phillips, the screener that we got. Yeah. It's pretty funny how they, right before it, it's like, piracy hurts everybody. And it's like, I didn't even think about that when i watched the screener well that's what captain phillips is all about is is uh pirates pirate well and movie pirates technically yeah i mean that's what those guys was carrying dvds down in the hole he was carrying it was an entire freighter filled with copies of the a-team movie because the movie took place a few with b-coops yeah yeah of course yeah it just had

so many copies of the a-team movie right um and uh yeah it's some good stuff and those those pirates are like we want to fuck the a-team movie hey do you have the a-team movie give us a movie then they saw it and they were like, A plus team movie. They did. That was one of the best lines in the movie. A plus team movie. Yeah. This is good stuff. All right.

That's been I Love Films. All right. Wow. Good episode. That was very good. Hey. Yeah. Just like a rough estimate.

How much money are we going to make from doing this podcast? I mean, we'll talk about it afterwards, but it's not a small amount. Okay. But hey, you know what I mean, though? I mean, even though we make a lot of money, I could use some t-shirts. Hey, listen. T-shirts. T-shirts. T-shirts. You know what? Even though I do pretty well, I would rather live the rest of my life never paying for another t-shirt.

In fact, Bono, pay for our t-shirts for the rest of our lives. Not just U2 t-shirts either. You know what I mean? Pay for it. Give us a lifetime supply of t-shirts, please. Here's the thing. I think that they probably have some deal with a t-shirt company. Probably.

Okay, we have a tour coming up, right? The tour is going to be 18 months long. We're going to buy this many t-shirts from you. We're going to put our stuff on a printer. Dare I say they own a t-shirt company. Oh, maybe. Look, these guys have been around for a while. They're one of the world's biggest bands.

As far as I know, 10 years at least. Oh, U2? The band U2? The band U2. Scott, they've been around for like 35 years Nah I don't think so

But Look it up Still Look it up At the same time Even if what Scott is saying Is not true It is true

They've been around for 10 years Or so And they They have to have a t-shirt company At some point You know Hook us up You don't have to sign it

Oh you know what i just looked it up they do have a t-shirt company it's called you t-shirts you of course it is see and that's smart diversify baby branding yes and uh distribution that's all it's that's what it's all about words two words branding and b and d all right you know what we have to take another break we didn't get to the unforgettable fires yeah sorry gotta take another break when we come back i promise you we will get to the unforgettable fire we've been talking about a lot about you too look we love films too so there may be another episode of that after the break. Or during the break. You know, I don't know.

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Yeah. Unforgettable Fire is your favorite U2 record. Let's talk about it. First of all, let's hear a little bit of the titular song, The Unforgettable Fire. Here we go. Fire. Here we go. Hear that fake count in?

Stop. The thing, the courageous thing about this album. This is really the beginning of them. Hey, let's talk about it after we listen to a little bit of the song, all right? Sorry. Sorry, Scott. It's okay, Scott. Came out on October 1st, 1984.

You know what they should have called this record? October 1st, 1984. The date it came out. Because it came out on October 1st, 1984. No, yeah, no. Yeah. Came out Island Records, of course, their longtime label. They're going back to Island Records.

Did you know that? That's pretty interesting. Thanks. Where have they been? They've been on, let me look it up, Interscope. Yeah, with Jimmy Iovine.

Hey, go back to Island. You know? Hey, how about a couple of boat tickets so I can get back to the island? How about a couple of t-shirts, too?

A few years ago when they went to Interscope, they were probably like, eh, get me off this island. Ha ha a couple of t-shirts too? A few years ago when they went to Interscope, they were probably like, get me off this island. Gilligan. You know what I'm saying? Alright. Came out October 1st, 1984. Island Records format, LP,

cassette, CD, and 8-track. CDs in 1984? Yep. You sure about that? Well, I mean, it's out on CD. I think that's what that means. Well, I mean, it's out on CD, I think is what that means. I don't know if it came out on... I don't know where you get

your information on this. Well, no, you know what? I will say that No Line on the Horizon, it says download and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb says download,

but the earlier ones do not. So I think this must have been the format that it came out at the time. I think CDs must have been around back then. Oh, you know what? You you're right because the very first cd ever uh distributed was billy joel's 52nd street it came with the first cd players that were made available and then uh because they weren't around for billy joel's previous album 51st street right

and then 53rd street of course was on of course everyone had that of course it's a lot like uh billy joel's 52nd street was a lot like the mario games right the nintendo systems right you know it comes right with him uh the first record to come out on cd of you twos was war that's the first one that has... Is that... U2 has an album called War? Yeah, we talked about the last episode. Huh. I need to check that out. So, The Unforgettable Fire.

For me, this is a good album. Again, I didn't discover U2 until Joshua Tree, but... So, at this point, you're a babe in the woods. You're living on top of the roller coaster in Santa Cruz. Or in Jason Patrick's butthole. Right. And I was burrowed up in that butthole. You don't know anything about U2 at this point.

This record comes out. You don't know. You don't give a shit. I was 11 years old. In 84. In 1984. I'm 14, by the way. Okay, so you're at the prime age for this like oh i'm ready for

it but the the thing about this album that's really interesting is their it's their first kind of dive into the idea of changing it up with every album changing their sound completely let me me read a quote uh from uh bono here okay so they they had just done war they got pretty popular right but not massively they got like phil the greek theater pop yeah exactly uh bono says uh uh uh really did he say that he did he said it um okay bono says first of all they say um uh in the 10th issue of youtube magazine issued in february 1984 are you still a subscriber to youtube magazine by the way? Of course. There's a U2 magazine?

I don't know if it's... I've never heard of this. I don't know if it still exists. But he hinted at changes were going to come. The band had recorded their first three albums with producer Steve Lillywhite, who we talked about in the last episode. And rather than create the, quote, son of war, they sought experimentation. Rather than create the, quote, son of war, they sought experimentation. Both Lily White and the band agreed that it was time for a change of producers to not repeat the same formula. Okay, Steve Lily White agreed.

I'm sure he was really psyched about that. He's super psyched. You guys are about to get huge. Should I have a job or not have a job? Why don't we go our separate ways? Yeah, ridiculous. That's Bono just saying, Steve, you're not going to work on this new record. And him just going,

Steve and I had a great conversation. He really agreed with me. But again, they brought... But he worked on all of their... Didn't he do engineering on all of their albums? I don't know that he worked at all with them on the next ones. I don't think so. I think Daniel Lenoir was the guy who did the engineering on.

Because Eno and Daniel Lenoir came into the mix at this point. Right. Because Bono's sitting there going, okay, who should produce this record? Because he, I can't find the quote right now, but he says that he knew that the world was ready for another band like The Who. Mm-hmm. And he knew that they could be that if they wanted to be. Now, how weird is that to know that you could be the next The Who if you wanted to be? Like, who doesn't want to be?

Well, it's interesting because he's kind of saying, like, we could have been The Who, but we decided to be The Beatles. Yeah. Or, like, something that transcends. Yes. Yeah, because The Who is some people's favorite band of all time. Sure. Like, maybe Eddie Vedder's, possibly. Sure.

But somehow they're not The Beatles or The Stones. Well, no, they're not the Beatles or the Stones. Well, no, they're not. I like The Who a lot, but I think that there's a certain ceiling with The Who. Whereas you think of The Beatles or The Stones to a lesser degree, but it's kind of like they're this limitless. Were you going to say The Who? I did say The Who. Do you think The Who are like one of the great bands? I never. the who i did say do you think the who are like one of the great bands i never you know what their problem is i think is they they don't have consistent really consistent records no albums you know if they had better like if they had a sergeant pepper like you know tommy and and

quadrophenia are great but um anyway i don't know this you know what we're not talking about the who but it's interesting because they thought with war, we could be – if we keep going down this path, we could be The Who. If we keep putting out records like The War, we could be The Who. And people are ready for that. But they decided, and I think when they say they decided, Bono just decides things, right? It seems that way. I mean, every record I've read about, it's like Bono has an idea, and then you hear the Edge didn't want to do it, and then had to be convinced.

Right. Right. So Bono basically just does whatever he wants. But Bono was like, look, I don't want to put out another war, another record like War, which, as we talked about the last episode, is very immediate, has great songs. I want to do something more experimental, and they said a little more European. Mm-hmm. So,

who do they go to? They have, they were looking at the producer, they were looking at Jimmy Iovine. Don't know why they passed up on him

because they seem to be buddies now. They were looking, Well, he produced Rattle and Hum. Did he? Yeah.

Oh, boy. Why are they still friends? They, they considered approaching connie plank whose previous credits included can and craft work that would have been interesting a little early for that little early for the dark of it we'll get to that period pretty soon in the very soon they also thought about approaching roxy Music producer Rhett Davies but instead they go to a former Roxy Music band member Brian Eno

Yeah. Who The Edge had a long appreciation of his work liked his ambient music Yeah. Meanwhile I think Bono likes his work

with Talking Heads he had done several Talking Heads Sounds like they were looking for something lush like when you think when I think of Roxy Music which which I really like, I think of lushness. I think they were looking for just not to do rock music in the way that they did.

So Eno takes a meeting with them. All right? Who knows where this meeting is at? Right. It's not here on Wikipedia. I'll tell you that much. Okay. is at right it's not here on wikipedia i'll tell you that much okay i would like that kind of information because quite honestly this is the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of knowledge about you too and i don't have that information at my fingertips you don't have

footage of this meeting i did not i chased down some sources no one would talk on the record so eno and lanois were not a team at this point lanois is his engineer you know so lanois was his engineer with roxy music i don't really know okay you know was a band member of roxy music left after two records so he was not there for the he he was the the guy who basically did sound experiments he didn't play he doesn't play instruments so did he work with lanois like on his solo records probably the talking heads maybe or something i i don't have that information either because it's not about U2. I know everything about U2, obviously. I mean, if you want to talk about Lanois—

Wait a second. Are you talking U2 to me? As a matter of fact, I am. He brought along Lanois saying, this is my engineer. He should do your record. Right. I don't want to do your record. He's not a fan.

Okay. He's not a fan of U2. He listens to them and goes, you know what? They're too obvious. I don't want to do your record he's not a fan okay he's not a fan of you two he listens to them goes you know what they're too obvious i don't like it two on the nose two on the nose meanwhile bono who we talked about it before he's a 24 year old guy this came out in in 1985 when he was 25 but he must be 24 when they start recording this right he's a 24 year old guy he somehow changes brian eno's mind well he's a very persuasive young man he won't shut the fuck up is i think what you're trying to say and i think probably brian eno just found it easier to go okay bono whatever yeah i'll do whatever you want uh they agree to do it now meanwhile lenoir what he does in the partnership i'm reading is he does all the

recording uh-huh eno sits around telling them what he thinks about it right that's his only job that's really his only job is to go well you know i don't like it or yeah this is better and uh lenoir handles all of the handles everything Handles everything else. Interesting. And probably says, well, it has as equal a vote of like, well, I like this. I don't like this. From what I understand, Lanois liked the straight ahead rock music and Brian Eno did not like those songs. So Pride in the Name of Love, I think Eno not a fan. Right. Lanois, that was his.

Right. Lanois, that was his. Well, it's interesting because in their later records, especially I'm thinking of No Line on the Horizon, which is the Eno-Lanois collaboration again. In the credits, you can see sometimes Eno's not even involved and it's just this one's Lanois. And they started kind of parsing out who worked on what rather than it just being Eno Lanois, which I thought was strange that they would specify who did what. I've heard that about Rick Rubin as well. You hear that about like Dr. Dre and some producers, how their involvement is they'll come by to the sessions, sit on a couch for a half hour. Right. Lie down sometimes, that famous Rick Rubin.

a half hour right lie down sometimes if that famous rick rubin and listening to jay-z produces from his house via satellite i don't know if that's via skype maybe maybe you know hey there's all sorts of ways let's talk about the modern era for a little bit satellites it's almost as if our lives wouldn't even function without the use of satellite technology. You know what I like about email? Tell me. You type it up on your smartphone, on your iPad, on your computer. You send it off to a buddy. Almost instantaneously it gets there. Boom, he has it.

He has the info that you're trying to put across. Buddy, you got my info. Want to grab lunch. What do you think about this? Hey, did you see her? What did you think? Hey. I liked it a lot you send this is an email that's an example of emails it's going back yeah like you send an email did you see the movie her what did you think meanwhile the other person gets that email then writes one back which is an important part of the email it's not a one-way street when

it comes to emails super easy you just hit. Type in your response. You probably have to hit the spacebar a few times in between words. Yeah, or just once. If it's a two-word email, then you just hit it once. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're probably going to hit it a few times if you're writing a longer email. If you have two words, you're going to hit the spacebar once between

those words. Otherwise, you're going to get an unusual-looking email. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Hey, you know what? Hey, I'm not going to say you're going to get an unusual looking email. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Hey, you know what? Hey, I'm not going to say you're right, but you're not wrong. Thank you. All right. Here we go. So, you know, I think he's just kind of sitting around doing what he does. Apparently with Bowie. I think he'd worked with Bowie at this point. Yeah. He did Berlin with him. Or Low. Yeah. The Low, Heroes, and heroes and possibly lodger i can't remember is there not a bowie album called berlin there is not it's his berlin period okay where he recorded everything at

honza am i right hey you know what i'm not gonna say you're right but you're not wrong unless you're wrong thanks all right buddy hey hit me up with one of those emails we've been talking about, by the way. I would love to get one from you. I've been waiting. So Eno's sitting around. He's telling people what he thinks. He's maybe holding up his cards. You've heard about his cards, right? No.

He has a stack of cards that I believe he wrote himself. He might sell them, by the way, now, that has just weird instructions. sell them by the way now um that has just weird instructions and he pulls them at random holds it up and whatever it says the band then has to do while they're playing like what so there will be like drop it down half a step some some of them are musical uh instructions like all of a sudden go double speed and then some of them are like more like... Esoteric. Esoteric, put a sense of fun into it. You know what I mean?

And then that's how he experiments with... Does he have one that says, show me your penis? Because I'd like one that says, show me those nips. So it sounds like you're... It sounds like you think that Brian Eno is lazy or something. Or do you just think that he's more of a heady guy? Look, I love everything that he's worked on. Me too.

I love his solo stuff too. I love his solo stuff too. For a guy who does not play instruments, as far as I know, he's put out amazing records. I'm just saying, nice work if you can get it. Hey, To stand in a room and just kind of share your thoughts? And be probably a dick about it. You gotta assume that he's... Why would you

assume that? Well, just anyone telling you what to do. That's a producer and a director's job, but I mean, you know what I mean? It's basically to be like... But it sounds like at this point, they wanted someone to come in and just mix up what they're doing. They wanted to... You know what, they wanted to put their influences into a blender and just see what came out. Yeah.

So my thing about this album is that. Let's talk about, because we have to talk about the Unforgettable Fire at some point. So this is your, tell me why it's your favorite. Okay. I said that it was. Is it because it was, I'm going to tell you why it is. Okay. Is it because it was just at a...

You truly kind of... It blew your mind at the time, and you truly discovered this band. Let me tell you about my experiences with this record. Okay. So it comes out October 1, 1984. You've said that four times. Okay. So the first single is Pride in the Name of Love.

In my opinion, it's probably the best and maybe most quintessential U2 song. Okay. I would say it's my favorite U2 song. That version of it? Any version of it. Okay. The song, I can hear it a million times. I love it.

It somehow is not overplayed like some of their singles are to me. I can hear it a million times. I love it. It somehow is not overplayed like some of their singles are to me. I can hear it so many times. And if you hear it in concert, it's one of the greatest experiences. For sure. I love that song. And yet it was, as much of it, it was a hit. It's not a massive hit like With or Without You that comes on in the elevators and stuff like that. I love that song. Okay.

So that's the first relation I have to the record is that comes out. The video's out all the time. I talked a little bit on the last episode about how I was introduced to U2 in the church. Oh, yeah. Watching this Christian station in L.A. on the UHF channel that had a Friday night videos. Oh, yeah. Where they would do. It was called Friday night videos. No, that's a totally different thing.

It's not a Christian. Oh, that was NBC. The Christian version of Friday night videos. And they would lead with this every week because it was massive. And U2 is a Christian band supposedly. We don't know if they still are. But I think they may be going to hell is all I'm trying to say. So in any case... You sound so suspicious of their faith.

Personally, I think they've sinned at least once since they started being in the band. I don't know. Maybe half of once. Did we talk about who the members of the band are for this record? Bono. Okay, we got Bono. We got on the axe.

Yeah. Otherwise, a.k.a. the guitar. The six string. The git fiddle. We got the edge. Dave Evans. The edge. And then bringing up the rear on the rhythm section there on bass, guitar, and drums, we got Adam Clayton.

Uh-huh. And he's his father's son, the drummer. We got good old Drummy. What's his name? Jerry. Jerry O4. Jerry O4. That sounds right to me.

That sounds pretty accurate to me. So you got these guys. They're doing... Okay, so you... I hear the single. The single. I'm already a casual fan. I don't own any of their records.

So you didn't have more. I'm a 15-year-old boy. Look, I'm a little boy. When you were 15, you were only two feet tall, which is so weird. Look, I'm a little boy. Okay? What do I know of records?

My name is Scott. You know, look, yeah. I bought the Footloose single. It's a 45. What am I doing with a 12-inch record? It's too big. I can't hold it.

I can't even carry it home. So I'm a little boy. But this record comes out Christmas Day, 1985. I'm a sophomore in high school. I thought it came out in 84. No, 85. 84, sorry. Christmas Day, 1984.

Look, as far as I'm concerned i'm a 14 war came out in 84 no no sorry this came out uh unforgettable fire came out october 1 1984 okay okay war was 83 okay i'm a 14 year old boy even worse yeah all right this record's as big as me i'm walking down the street on christmas day this old man up above me leans out and says you there boy do you know the unforgettable fire you two album and i said the one as big as me and the rest is history wow that's an incredible story but i did someone gave me a gift certificate for where the warehouse that's right's right. Seriously? Yeah. That's why I said it. Someone gave me a gift certificate for the

warehouse. That place sucked. Remember that shitty record store? I spent so much time there. Me too. Growing up. Because it's the only thing around. I mean, what's worse? Sam Goody or the warehouse? Sam Goody's worse. Goody got it, though. You gotta admit that. There's still Sam Goody's.

I really want to chime in. Oh, who's this? Who is this? Someone just came in the room here. Wait a minute. Who's this? Wasn't it called Sound Warehouse? No.

You're talking about the third place. You can't just come in. Say we're talking about zebras and lions. You can't just go, wasn't that called a turtle? No, you're talking about a third thing. I've never heard of the Warehouse. You guys are fucking old. Listen, I'm Harris Whittles.

Hey, Harris Whittles. How do you guys not know the drummer of U2? You guys are just like two dudes that kind of like this band. You're like, let's just talk about this band. I know fucking... Harris, who obviously just came in. full of steam look harris you're gonna be on the next episode oh you're not on this i'm not even here right now you're not even here wait what's the ghost of harris whittles doing in here harris do you want to hang out and talk

about the rest of the uh the rest of the stuff with us i i didn't know what the layout was that's okay you came in the we're still we're still recording our previous episode. Harris, not to spoil it, is going to be with us for the next episode. Yeah. All right. By the way, we have been recording this episode

for an hour and 15 minutes. We just started talking. And we just got to the album, the first of the two albums. You know what I think we'll do? We'll finish out Unforgettable Fire for this episode what i think we'll do we'll finish out unforgettable fire for this episode and then we'll talk about uh we'll talk about joshua tree and rattle and hum for the next what else is there to talk about you talk about joshua tree you talk about his hat

and you get the fuck out all right okay i think we i think we see where harris is coming from let's talk a little bit about the unforgettable fire okay because first of all the title Talk a little bit about The Unforgettable Fire. Okay, because, first of all, the title. We're dropping little pieces of U2 trivia. Do you know what the title refers to, The Unforgettable Fire? Martin Luther King Jr.? No. Lindsay Lohan's pubic hair.

Oh, wow, because she's a redhead. She's a fire crotch. Huh. Yeah. So, that's a little piece of trivia that I didn't know. So, wait. So, my thing about this album well i haven't talked about what what i like about it oh my god okay okay so i get it on christmas day i don't know if the if the warehouse is even open did an old man really give it to you no my a relative gave me a gift certificate oh right, right. To the warehouse. And to where? The warehouse.

Sound warehouse. I called... No. No. It's not. It's not. I'm not even here. I called up the warehouse because I don't know.

At this point, I'm a 14-year-old boy. I'm a little boy. I don't know how things work. I called up the warehouse. I'm like, excuse me. Are you open on Christmas Day?

I got this $10 gift certificate burning a hole. It's burning a hole in your pocket. Oh. Fire crotch. Fire crotch, of course. It's burning a hole in your pocket. By the way, I had red pubic hair that I just started to grow at this point. I'm thinking, this record is about me.

It's about the changes going on in my body. You hadn't purchased an album yet? No. This can't be my first album. I sure i had a couple yeah at the time but it's a at this point in my i had sports we talked about hewlett lewis sports last time uh but i i think i'd gotten a lot of records through that uh one penny for 10 record deals the columbia warehouse oh yeah i got in. But this, I recall, is one of the first times I actually went out with my own money.

Even though this technically is not money and it's not my own since someone gave it to me. But all money is kind of given to you by other people. So I'm going to call it my own money.

Okay. Went out, purchased... You don't have to follow every thought. Have you not heard this show before? I went out and bought this record on Christmas Day

by the way they were open record stores thank god were open on Christmas Day because and I started to think because of gift certificates

that's what I'm saying I used to do that I used to go to the warehouse on Christmas Day with my gift certificate mhm and you'd buy something with yeah speaking of

gift certificates here's the thing about gifts can we should because we do have that that money podcast as well the one oh yeah we should we should check in with that talking about money yeah okay here let's let's do another episode of Talking About Money. Okay, hey, we're here at Talking About Money with Mr. Money himself, Scott. Hey, hey, hey, Scott here, Talking About Money. We're talking about gift certificates and gift cards today. Hey, guys, if you ever get a gift card or a gift certificate, it acts just like cash. Just like cash for a specific place.

But here's the thing, folks. Use it. Don't lose it. Wise words. Spend it all in one place. Who's this guy? Hey, this guy. Hey, it's me, Small Change.

Small Change. Talking about money. Trying to head full of steam. Trying to buzz kill the buzz kill. Never mind the buzz kills. This has been Talking About Money with your host, Scott. And your partner up there in the bank, Scott, Scott, Scott. Talking about, yeah, it's money. Dollar bills, y'all.

Come on now. Oh, good episode. That's one of our best. I think the thing about talking about money is that people need advice about money, how to spend it to save it they do hey it looks like i just got a uh an email from a buddy oh yeah yeah a buddy named scott oh yeah you sent me an email with a picture of myself that you just took you just stepped in here we've been talking a little we've been talking about a lot of stuff one of the things we've been talking about is email email it's so convenient. It's a pretty good system. This podcast couldn't be less about you two if you tried.

Let's just cover email here a little bit. How about we skip ahead a little bit? Because I know the walk home from the warehouse, that all happened. When you listen to it. Are you getting more impatient because Harris is looking at us? Because this is the kind of stuff we talked about on the last episode. There is an added pressure.

We talked a lot about just how we heard the record. You know what I mean? Just because Harris is sitting here judging us. What did you see on the walk home? What are your impressions now, though? I listened to it today. Yeah.

I've long said it is my favorite U2 record. I listen to it today yeah it i've long said it is my favorite u2 record um i listen to it today i will say it is not as consistent as war war every song is great right we talked about that on the last episode their most consistent record perhaps i think on the unforgettable fire there's 10. I would say number eight and number nine, that's Indian Summer Sky and Elvis Presley in America, are terrible. Okay. I think those songs are garbage. Okay. It is a testament to how much I love songs one through seven and ten.

I love those songs, and those are probably my favorite U2 songs on a record. That said, I can't call it a great record because it has two clunkers on it. What am I to do? Let's put song number one on.

I say skip them. How about, can we take a quick break? We need to take a break? Or no, I'm just going to grab a water while you figure out your stupid fucking iPod. What do you no, I'm just going to grab a water while you figure out your stupid fucking...

What do you mean? I literally just picked it up. It's on here right now, and I just started the song. How is that... All right, this is A Sword of Homecoming. This is track number one. Harris, are you getting this in your cans? It's low, but I'm hearing it.

Well, turn up your fucking headphones. All right, this is the first track. This is the first song, a sort of homecoming. Sort of. Sort of. I love this song. I love the sound of this record. I love the atmosphere. I love...

Yeah, this is a really good song. But I will say that I think that yes, this is a great song. But I feel like there's still like, songwriting-wise, one more breakthrough to happen. And it happens with the next album. They're still stuck

in this... The production is innovative, but the songwriting still hasn't become what do you not like about the songwriting in this particular song the lyrics the way he's saying oh ho ho instead of singing actual lyrics would you know prefer he be quoting proust maybe this is not the greatest example because this is a really really song. Let's go to track two. Then you got Pride in the Name of Love. Okay.

Classic. Which I got to say, like, I love this song. I think, like, the live version from Rattle and Hum is way better. That's a great version. I will say that. I feel like this, the production on this album is really good, but it's not fully integrated. As rocking as you want it to be. Well, no. It just feels a little antiseptic.

Okay. Here we go to Wire. Now, I say the first five songs on this record, impeccable, unimpeachable. This, to me, sounds like a song from Boy or October that's been produced really well. I love this song. I don't think it's a great song. Which, by the way, this is the first time that his signature guitar playing, it really clicks in.

Yeah. You know, with the reverb. The ding-a-ding-a-ding-a-ding. The kind of reverb pedal he's using. Do you see what I mean about this being kind of an early-ish U2 song? Like, the songwriting just isn't that. I don't know. It isn't.

Harris, you got something for this? This is the Chili Peppers? Shut up. All right. Nice day! All right, here we go to The Unforgettable Fire. Sort of a... It was a single, but didn't do well.

Now, this is second only to Pride in the Name of Love, as far as I'm concerned. This is a great song. See, I think every song on Joshua Tree is better than this song. Wow. Is Joshua Tree, that's the best album? No, I mean, we've talked about it. We don't know. We haven't discovered it yet.

It's like they're Michael Jackson. It's the album that sold like 50 million copies or something. Yeah. But that's not like a true fan's favorite album. Well, I don't know. I would say a lot of fans, how can you disagree with it? No, you can't. It's like saying you don't like Ziggy Stardust. Or

the White Album or something. Yeah, you know. What's the other contender? Well, we talked a lot about War last time. War is the other contender. This is a fan favorite. Unforgettable Fire. And I think it's slightly... I think, you know what a lot of people would say would be... Aktoon!

Baby! There's no way. Oh, yeah. Oh, people... I think that would be a lot of people's favorite. Okay. I think Aktoon Baby's pretty perfect. Wait, do you mean...

Aktoon! Baby! Baby! All right, this is kind of a mellow one, but I love vibe of this what is this song promenade right and i think once it gets into the the chorus is fantastic as well we don't have time for that and then fourth of july another great song this was a jam that brianino recorded apparently he record they were just fucking around the studio he recorded it mastered, mastered it, and put it to tape so that no overdubs could happen

because he just thought it was like, this is perfect, I don't want the band fucking around with this anymore. This is just an instrumental? This is just an instrumental, yeah. See, I think that the next album, they take this experimentation and really... Ad words?

It gels into it gels into True like Greatness Whereas this is them Getting used to This This new way of approaching I love this song When was this album recorded?

When? Yeah 1983 I would think Yeah So he's a 23 year old They're all 23 He's a little boy He's a little boy

Not as little as me Yeah Well you were Two feet tall He was Me? He was three feet at. He was... Me? He was three feet, at least.

Yeah. I was, what, three years younger than you? Yeah. So I was... You were one foot. I was one foot tall. Yeah, that's the ratio is three years younger, one foot shorter. I was just a little zygote waddling around. Okay, then we have...

Side two starts with, again, one of the best... One of their best songs. But again, I think the version on Wide Awake in America is better. See, all the live versions of these songs feel so much more alive. I think this album is a little stilted. That is something they talked about. They sort of figured out how to play these songs live, and they opened them up and became...

Because the version on Wide Awake in America That's fantastic. Amazing. And this is the song they played we said we were going to talk about Live Aid this is the song

they played for Live Aid that made them superstars. Yeah. When live hands you live make a Live Aid. Are you okay? We'll see him more on the next episode.

But okay, but there's a very significant thing that happened at Live Aid. Okay, here's what happens at Live Aid. They go on in the middle of the day. They're not superstars at this point. Think about all the people who went on after them at Live Aid. Queen, David Bowie, you know. I think even Duran duran went after them you know so they're they're not big right they do live aid they come off stage they go wow we fucked that up they're quoted as saying we messed up live aid they thought they did a terrible shitty job of

it really and messed it up yes what happens is during this song bono goes out into the crowd i don't know if this is premeditated because i feel like he did it in a few shows i feel like it was premeditated that was like his thing his thing but at the time it just seemed so cool he goes out into the crowd finds a woman in the front row and while the band plays the song behind them he just hugs her yes and she's crying because it's like it's fucking live aid it's the middle of the summer it's hot as fuck and bono this weirdo from liverpool comes over one of the original lads from liverpool the fab four the fab four comes over you got a rock star she's been looking up at his, you know, from below.

Buttocks and nostrils. Yeah. Buttocks and nostrils. That's all she's seen up to this point. He comes down into the crowd, hugs her. She's crying. It's a lot like, we'll talk about this in a further episode, but your castmate on Parks and Recreation, Amy Poehler,

I remember when you two played on SNL and she was on SNL. He did that to her. He did that. He didn't come over and hug her, but... He did. He did hug her? Yeah.

Oh, okay, maybe that was off camera. The part I remember is they played a third song. Something about being that close to what's happening, it made her cry. I think it's just like the situation, and you have one of the biggest stars in the world there, and it just makes you melt down. Well, here's the thing I was going to say that was significant about Live Aid is, at the time—

You call it Live Aid? Live Aid. The police, the biggest band in the world— Oh, the band, the police. Without question, finish their their set and as they were finishing u2 walks out and the police hand their instruments over to u2 for them to finish the song and then start their set so they were anointed because the police were like we hate each other and we're done and they were passing the baton saying, these guys are the next big ones.

But they had to play that whole show with batons. Yeah. It was a difficult, that's one of the reasons they thought they fucked up is because it was all baton work. They were hitting the strings of their guitars with the batons. So that's a thing you want to happen at a U2 show

is he hugs you? That's a thing? Well, I mean it's like no he did I remember he did it for he did it for like a year

that whole tour no he did Octoon Baby he did the same thing he would bring a girl up on stage and just hug them and he just hugs them

that's weird it's a little weird yeah especially he's been doing a whole show he's probably a little stinky he probably needs a little touch

of the Irish spring if you know what I mean the soap hey how about we play the version of Bad from Wide Awake in America He probably needs a little touch of the Irish spring, if you know what I mean. The soap. Hey, how about we play the version of Bad from Wide Awake in America? All right, let's see if we can do that. Here we go. Do you think you can do that?

Jesus. Is it true that he mailed his hat one time, first class, on an airplane? You mean bought a ticket for his hat on an airplane? I don't know. That he mailed his hat? I heard that once, too. That he left it behind in Australia. And so he bought a first, just put it in coach. Yeah.

They buckled it in and everything. Really? They had to do that? It's the story. There's no way. That has to be bullshit. First of all, on this live version of Bad, you got these keyboards. Yeah.

Edition, which sound pretty good. You can hear the hand claps from the crowd. Oh, is that the crowd? I assumed that was the temptations behind them. Oh, it might be the temptations. That's a good song. Bad is one of the greatest songs that they do, in my opinion. But then you start to get into some dodgy material on the Unforgettable Fire.

Oh, towards the end. Well, after... The second side is Bad, then Two Shitty Songs, and then MLK. Elvis Presley in America is awesome. Really? I just listened to it today. I think it's really good. That's the one I would always put on mixes for girls. You and

your girl mixes, by the way. Did you remember anything else from the story that we talked about last time about you writing, plagiarizing, being the Shia LaBeouf of Dire Straits? Harris, basically, he would write down lyrics and call them poems he'd written. No. And then he got busted by the girls. You got to do a skywriting apology to Dire Straits. I do.

I think I will. All right. This is Elvis Presley in America. I think this is good. And the girls would be like, this song's crazy. Who is this? They'd be like, it's you too. I've never heard this song. Yeah, well, I have all their stuff.

Can I fuck you now? All right. this is good it's very uh i don't know you don't like this one it's not really a i mean there isn't really a chorus yeah i don't know that i love the it sounds like it's half finished which i think that bono did talk about in some of the stuff i've read about this record he felt a lot of the songs were half finished. They say that whenever an album doesn't, like... Well, especially Pop.

Pop was not ready. What happens with a lot of these... You know what's interesting? We haven't talked about this. These guys take years to do these records now. Yeah.

Like, they just sit around dicking around in the studio. Who can afford that? These guys, obviously. But it's a lot like, I don't know if you watch Parenthood, one of your sister shows. Yeah. But they have this subplot that's been going on all season about a band. Oh, yeah.

Who's at the luncheonette. Yeah. Who's recording their record. We all know how the music industry actually works. They probably have seven days in the studio to do this. They've been recording it all year. They're doing a U2 schedule where they're like, we have one month to finish one song.

But is that band, in the context of the show, are they supposed to be a big successful band? No, they're not. Oh, they're not. No one's ever heard of them. They've been recording this record for a year now. It's crazy. Let me play a little MLK while you figure out what the fuck you're going to say. Oh, MLK is a very beautiful song.

What were you going to say? I like your imitation of what a girl would say to me after I play the Elvis Presley in America. What would they say? No, you would say, can I fuck you now? They'd go, yeah. Or no. More likely. Yeah.

It's a lot like your conversations with Naomi, I'm sure. It's just like, just stop talking about you two. Yeah. Get in me. Just go ahead. There's a very nice moment in rattle and hum when he sings this before with or without you or something something like that we'll talk about rattle and hum oh will we will we we'll get to all of this that is unforgettable fire so you think that it's

just it's tentative the production is tentative and it's not what it needs to be. I think it's them not quite comfortable with this new kind of recording scheme. It's groundbreaking. I'm glad it's there. I love the sound of it. There is still some of that slap at the base. I know. As your friend Paul Rudd talked about. And that's gone in Joshua Tree.

It's gone in Joshua Tree. And we'll talk about why in our next episode. Yep. But there is a bit of... Yeah. I noticed that today when I was listening to it. I still love... I love the sound of the record.

I love the songwriting on the record. It sounds like it's a sentimental favorite for you. It may be, but every time I return to it, I love those first four songs so much and bad. Those are five of my favorite U2 songs, I think. So for some reason, it's a sentimental favorite. Although, as we're going along

in this podcast, we've been rediscovering records and figuring out what we like. So, I mean, at this point, I will say War is more consistent, but I just love five, if not eight of these songs so much that so far it's my favorite. Well, next episode, I'm going to make a case for Rattle and Hum, the album.

Rattle and Hum, the album? Yeah. I mean, I understand the movie. One of the greatest movies. Maybe we should go back to I Love Films. Sure. Okay. This is I Love Films.

All right. We're here in I Love Films. I'm your host, Scott. Hi, this is Scott. And, oh, who do we have here? We have our guest. Scott? Oh, yeah, it's Scott. Hey, Scott.

Hey. Rattle and Hum, probably the best movie ever made. By far. Never seen it. I think it's Godfather, Rattle and Hum, and Baby Geniuses. Those are the three. Those are the three Godfather movies. They really are.

This has been I Love Films. Thanks. All right, great episode of I Love Films. I love films. I don't know if we talked about it that much on that episode. I love I Love Films. I feel like we should probably do that podcast real fast. We probably should, hey.

That was a good episode of I Love Films. Hey, this is, I guess I'm, are you the host of I Love I Love Films? I'm the fucking host of I Love I Love Films. I guess we're just guests. I'm Scott. Hi, Scott. Hey, I'm Scott. Thanks for having this podcast Love Films. I guess we're just guests. I'm Scott. Hi, Scott. Hey, I'm Scott. Thanks for having this podcast just about how much you like our podcast.

Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah, well, I like it too, but not as much as I Love Films. Me neither. Well, I don't love anything as much as I Love Films except my kids. Well, this has been that episode. Oh, that was a good episode. That was an abrupt finish Gotta make way for the ads

It's all about dollars, baby So our guest for our next episode Arrived a little early A little early, so we're gonna hear from him Truly did it, truly arrived right on time No, you were two minutes early You guys probably talked for, oh, I'd say An hour longer than you planned on.

Maybe. We might have. About one album. But hey, if you didn't enjoy it, you know, ask for your money back. Oh, well, I was going the other way. I was going to apologize. Yeah, I should apologize for that in advance because I think there's a pretty good chance some people won't enjoy this. I don't know.

Guys, this has been fun very fun you know we talked about you too we uh we didn't get to one of our favorite features but i promise me i promise me i promise we will get to is this a youtube video or a youtube video no it's not i promise you we will catch up with adam about harry potter in our next episode um we're gonna hear just how far he's progressed uh in the series did we talk about that in the last oh yeah any it was four years ago it was four years ago we're gonna talk about harry but hopefully you've read all of them at this point at this at four years four years ago you did not even know that he was the boy who lived.

You knew Voldemort. Right. But you did not – you said the boy who lived. What's that? So I assume you'd read one page of Harry Potter and then said, yeah, I'm reading the Harry Potter – No, I read the first one and started the second one with my son. I'm not doing this by myself. Okay.

I mean, don't be ashamed of reading harry potter i'm i'm not listen there are there are some things that a person can be ashamed of reading should not be one of them and it's a shame that in this country that you're shamed for it it's a shame it's a shame the the can we start our education podcast yeah we should definitely start that. What's that going to be called? Education. Education? Yeah. Education.

Education. Hey, I'm Ed. Education. Hey, I'm Ed Hardy. I think it's fucked up that our country encourages people to discover new emojis, and there's books out there that aren't being read. It's like instead of texting an emoji, next time you want to text an emoji to a friend, Text a book.

Text a book. And emailing is pretty simple. I don't know if we've talked about it at all, but it's a pretty simple process. Yeah. Hi. This is Ed Flavors. I think that texting, I think iphones i think that all

this stuff all this technology is supposed to bring us closer together is actually pushing us away from each other you're right okay here's what i think i think everyone should pick up a book pick up a newspaper a real newspaper not, not one of these cyber newspapers. Nothing like that. I want to see the ink on my fingers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the smell of that ink on your hands. I love to lick my fingers after a little bit. You rub them all over you.

You stick them up you. You've got ink still residue. I love just ink. An inky butthole. Just putting it in my body. You put all that ink in your butthole, and then you just go to, you go home. Hey, Bono, if you're listening, hit us up. We want backstage passes.

90 minutes of your time. Tell them about the t-shirts. Is this about how you kind of saw that we got backstage with Fish, and so you decided to start a YouTube podcast? This is pathetic. By the way, a YouTube podcast. This is pathetic. By the way, when is that Hollywood Bowl? I don't know. It may be out by the time people hear this.

I have no idea. But look, I'm going to tell them about the T-shirts. Stop poking me. I'm going to tell them. Bono? T-shirts. We want two free T-shirts. That's why you're doing this?

We want the U2 T-shirts. Not just any T-shirts. That's why you're doing this? We want the U2 t-shirts. We want U2 t-shirts, not just any t-shirts. I would take just a normal t-shirt. You must both have several U2 t-shirts by now. They're $45. They're expensive now. Bono, if you're listening, we're big fans. We've talked about you at length.

I'll tell them. I'll tell them about the t-shirts. Bono. Go over to the merch table. Okay. Why are you whispering this to him? I don't want to upset him. Bono.

Don't forget the t-shirts. Okay. I think he was about to tell him that time Bono You just want backstage passes Alright Backstage passes At least 90 minutes of your time

I'll get to them Give us two t-shirts We just want two t-shirts Go Medium for Scott Large for Scott Give us two t-shirts. We just want two t-shirts. Go. Medium. Medium for Scott. Large for Scott.

We'll pay full price. Wait, you want a t-shirt too? You have to say so. Now's the time. Now's the time. He's listening. Obviously I want a t-shirt. Harris wants a t-shirt. I'm freezing.

Extra small. Why did you come without a shirt on today? It's a little weird. I thought that there would be U2 shirts here. Well, guys, that's been our episode. This has been a good one, I got to say. This is maybe... We got halfway through what we were supposed to do.

Which was not even what we were supposed to do. I think that's what the people like. I don't know. We'll figure it out. But I do want to say this has been another episode of you talking you too to me. And I'm your host, Scott. And for my co-host, Scott, I hope that you found what you're looking for. We'll see you next episode with special guest star Harris Whittles.

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