U Talkin’ U2 To Me? - Youey Talkin' Huey 2ey Me? (w/ Huey Lewis, Jimmy Kimmel)
Episode Date: February 19, 2020Adam Scott Aukerman are back to talk all things Huey Lewis and the News with singer-songwriter Huey Lewis and number one Huey Lewis fan Jimmy Kimmel. They discuss Huey’s time with the band Clover, t...he “Sports” LP, being approached to do a song for Back to the Future, his new album “Weather”, and much more. Special thanks to Bryan Waterman for artwork. Plus, the 3rd pressing of the Farts and Procreation vinyl "Creak, Slam, Sit: The Jack Sjunior & Brian Pieces Saga" is now available! A portion of the proceeds go to the Harris Wittels Fund. Buy one at http://newburycomics.com/comedybangbang
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From back in time to a hundred years from now, this is Huey talking Huey to me, the comprehensive and encyclopedic
compendium of all things Huey Lewis and the news. This is good, hard of rock and roll
music. Music, rather. Music? Welcome to the show.
First episode.
Yeah, it's the maiden voyage, as they say.
Let's Kristen this with a little bit of champagne.
A little bubbly on the hearth.
But seriously, let's get to it.
Let's get wasted.
Let's get wasted.
Fuck!
Yeah!
Welcome to the show.
Very exciting show coming up.
This, of course, is the podcast devoted entirely to the discography and life of both Huey Lewis and his band, The News.
Huey Lewis.
Huey.
Huey Lewis.
Hey.
Coming up on the show, we have a couple of very special guests of note who will be talking about Huey Lewis and the music of Huey Lewis.
We have a gentleman named Huey Lewis,
and we have a gentleman, his number one fan,
a guy by the name of Jimmy Kimmel.
They will both be on the show coming up a little bit later
talking about all things Huey Lewis.
That's pretty exciting.
A good get for the first episode of this show,
I would say.
I'm going to say that
I don't know what else we can do.
What the fuck else do you want from us?
Like, if this isn't good enough for you,
who can we talk to?
Right.
The President of the United States?
No thanks.
No thank you.
Both sides.
Both sides.
Got to keep it going.
On Huey Lewis and the news.
Both sides.
I want to-
There are really lovely people on both sides.
On both sides of Huey Lewis and the news.
I want to introduce myself.
I am one of your hosts for the show today.
I am, let's see, what would, well, why don't I introduce you and you can introduce me.
How's that sound?
Okay, all right.
I'll introduce this guy across from me.
He is, he's been on such wonderful shows as Parks and Recreation, The Good Place.
Can't think of anything else other than that.
And then he's been in movies like Step Brothers.
I did an episode of NYPD Blue.
You did, really?
Did you show your little butt?
I did.
Yeah, I showed my butt on NYPD Blue.
Were you the first actor to turn towards the camera and show your dick?
I was actually Dennis Franz's butt double
for that show.
And then they were like,
we'll throw you a line or two.
They should call it a butt quadruple
because there's two cheeks.
Two cheeks.
Two cheeks
just right next to each other.
That's the good thing about butts.
Yeah.
Is if those cheeks were separated
like in totally two different
totally different places
that would be
very uncomfortable.
That's why I've always said
butts are ultra convenient
because the cheeks
are right next to each other.
They're right next to each other.
If you're looking for cheeks
they're going to be right there.
It's like
oh this is such a nice
I love squeezing this cheek.
I wish there was another one.
Guess what?
It's right there.
Right there.
Do you remember your line
from NYPD Blue?
NYPD, why do you say it?
Is that just how you say NYPD?
NYPD Blue?
It's actually NYPD.
It's NYPD.
PD, right?
No.
Wasn't the main character's name PD?
Jimmy Caruso?
Jimmy Smith's character was named PD.
PD, yeah.
So it used to be NYPD Blue,
and then when Jimmy Smith joined,
he called it NYPD Blue. And his when Jimmy Smith joined, he called it NYPD Blue.
And his last name was Blue.
So New York, PD Blue.
PD Blue.
Amazing.
Wow, the TV trivia that you learn on this show.
I mean, yes, we're about Huey Lewis and the news, obviously,
but mainly this is a TV trivia show, right?
100%.
That's why I think it's time for an episode of TV Trivia Time.
Is this an episode?
I think it is.
Here we go.
So give me coffee and TV.
Please don't leave.
I've seen so much.
I'm going blind and I'm brain dead virtually
Hey, welcome to TV Trivia Time.
This is Scott.
And this is Scott.
And we're just talking about TV trivia
and hoping to stump each other.
That's what we do on this show.
Yeah, you go first.
Okay.
You gotta ask me the question.
No, no, no.
Oh, you want me to ask the question first?
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't put it like that.
Well, what did you think I meant?
You go first, meaning I compete first,
meaning I guess the answer to the question.
Okay, I'll ask the question first.
Yeah!
I don't care!
All right, what do you got?
Here we go.
In 1986,
what show
was Kirk Cameron on called Growing Pains?
Okay.
I know this one because in 1986, I was in high school and I was watching television every night after high school.
Okay, I got that. And I was watching television every night after high school. Okay.
Got that.
School.
1986. I would – 1986, I was taking – I was probably taking biology.
Biology.
Okay.
Class.
Class.
Biology class.
Dissecting a frog usually during the day.
And so I would need a little downtime after that.
So I would come home and I would turn on the TV.
And I remember I would always turn it on ABC.
Always.
Because I was like, always be...
Be...
Cantalouping.
Cameron.
Always be Cameron.
For Kirk Cameron.
Kirk Cameron.
So when...
Because I was always be Cameron, when he...
Kirk Cameron actually had a show in there, I was like, this is amazing.
So I turned it on and I remember that, I remember the theme song was something like.
Growing pains, growing pains, growing pains, growing pains. Grow, grow, grow.
All your pains grow.
So painful, so painful, so painful, so painful to have growing pains.
So I'm going to say family matters.
Let me check here.
What are you checking? I was taking notes during your...
Why were you taking notes?
Because I wanted to...
If you were stumped, I wanted to go through what you said
and see if you had said it at any point.
And then the last thing I wrote here was Family Matters,
which was your answer.
That was my answer, yeah.
That's correct.
That's correct?
Yeah.
Yes!
Okay, it's time for you to stump me.
Okay.
In 1984...
Okay.
There was a television show
set in the town in Florida
named Miami.
Okay.
That focused on the police department, especially with the squad that investigated crimes of vice.
Crimes of vice.
Miami?
Miami is the town.
I haven't asked the question yet.
Okay.
Did you ever see it?
Did you ever see it?
Well, I don't know which... I need more clues,
because I don't know if I've seen...
Did you ever see it?
I don't know.
I don't know which show you're talking about.
Is Miami Vice.
Oh.
Did you ever see it?
Yeah.
It's good, right?
Yeah.
All right, that's TV Trivia Time.
Bye.
So give me coffee and TV.
Please tell me.
I've seen so much, I'm going blind.
Good app.
That was a great app.
Wow.
And both of those trivia questions,
like if I were doing a trivia night at a bar or something.
A pub, perhaps. A pub, like during a pub crawl.
I don't know that you'd interrupt your pub crawl to do a whole trivia night.
Isn't that what you do on a pub crawl?
You stop for like two and a half hours.
A little bit of an odd pub crawl schedule.
Okay, if I was just doing a pub stand,
standing in place at one point.
Okay, all right, that makes more sense.
Those were questions, those are the types of questions
that would be so much fun.
That you would get.
Let me introduce you.
He is, of course, Adam Scott.
Ah, hi guys.
Hi everybody.
Hey, hey over there, hi. Anyone. Hi, everybody. Hey. Hey, over there.
Hi.
Anyone you want to say hello to?
Hey.
Uh, sure.
I'd like to say hello to my family.
I'd like to say hello to my friends.
I'd like to say hello to my fans.
But especially today, Scott, I would like to say hello to you.
Thank you so much.
No problem.
Especially on today.
Well, I think it's because we're taping this on a very, very special day.
There is a saint by the little name of Valentine that we honor every year around about this time.
He's a mischievous little guy.
It is weird.
To me, we're recording this on Valentine's Day.
It's weird that Cupid is the mascot of Valentine's Day.
It's like if I were Valentine, I would be like,
hey, I'm right here.
WTF.
It's me.
Lock those fucking gates.
What the hell?
Like he must be really peyote.
He's livid up there in hell.
Yeah.
Because hell is up.
Hell's up, yep.
And down is Middle Earth.
Middle Earth.
Frodo and the boys.
Oh, those guys.
Speaking of mischief.
Yeah.
Boy, those rings.
Yeah. And that fellowship.
I mean, a lot of people like those movies for the rings.
I was in for the fellowship.
I'm always in for the fellowship.
Frodo and Sam just shooting the shit as they traveled cross country to drop a ring and a thing.
I came for the shooting the shit.
I stayed for the fellowship.
Yeah.
Go ahead and introduce me.
Scott Aukerman is here, everybody.
Thank you.
Hello.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
So it's been a minute, as they say.
Yeah, we have not been in the studes together
for a little bit of time.
The last time we were in was to,
we talked to Michael Stipe and Mike Miller
from the band Harriam but when was
the last time we were studented up just uh for a regular ep that was it that was it yeah that was
it oh right because we did the wraparound thing right for that right we did the reach around thing
as well but that was off mike when was that october uh i really don't know yeah it was probably
october because uh or maybe september
i can't remember seps it was around when the ferns movie came oh yeah it was october yeah
because the ferns movie was already out that's right um so we have not been in the studio for
a bit and we have not done this particular program at well we did a mini-up in one of our
previous episodes yes yes we did a ue talking u do this one? Yes, we did a talking Huey,
Huey me in a previous episode.
Is that what its title was?
Yes, because I think we knew
we were going to do this episode,
but this was several years ago.
That's how long it's taken us
to do this episode.
We're going to have a 10th anniversary.
Are we really?
One of these days.
When did we start doing this show?
I'd like to get a little info on that if we could.
I'm going to guess 2011. Damn, we might be These days. When did we start doing this show? I'd like to get a little info on that if we could. I'm going to guess 2011.
We, damn, we might be coming up.
No, it couldn't be 2012.
2012, 2013?
I'm going to guess 2112 because Neil Peart just passed away.
Whoa.
That was a weird one.
That was a tough one.
I've never been a rushed person.
But it was like, why him?
Yeah.
He thought he would never die.
But he was like, why him?
Yeah.
Zach has a funny joke that I think he's done in a couple of Fern's interviews,
and we've cut it out of each one.
But he's like, you know who's better than Neil Peart?
Neil Peart Plus.
But we've always cut it out.
Oh, I have a text from young Kevin here.
February. Well, I wonder if text from young Kevin here. February.
Well, I wonder if it was Valentine's Day then.
Ooh.
Of 2014.
Oh, wow.
So 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, six years at this point we've been doing this show.
That's better because times have been flying by.
Yeah, but a lot of road under our belts, under our tires.
A lot of. You know, six years is nothing to sneeze at.
A lot of blood under the bridge.
Sorry.
I guess it is something to sneeze at.
No.
But this is the first time we've done this show that is focusing on the music and life,
and I guess times.
Oh.
Of.
Let's talk about it.
Why did we want to do this show?
We've been wanting to do it for a while.
We've talked about Huey Lewis quite a bit on our previous episodes of You Talking U2 to Me
and probably Are You Talking to R.E.M. Remy.
I feel like at a certain point we were talking and it just came up because I think the 30th anniversary of sports was what?
It would have been 2013.
Yeah, before we ever did this show.
So what's your fucking point?
At some point I stumbled across it and listened to sports a few years back and was taken aback of just how incredible it was.
How did you stumble across it? Like you tripped and like your dumb nose hit the CD player,
the play on the CD player?
No, there was a copy of Sports on the ground
and I stumbled on it.
I was like, what's this?
But that's, I feel like that,
we just started talking about it.
And we started thinking, good story.
Oh, boy.
All right.
Yeah, what, when's the first time you heard of Huey Lewis and the news?
Huey Lewis or the news?
I can understand that's probably two different times.
So let's start with Huey Lewis, and then we'll go to the news.
It must have been,
I Want a New Drug.
I feel like that was the big song
that really introduced him to everyone.
Let's hear a little bit of it.
I Want a New Drug.
Wow, wow.
Was Harder Rock and Roll the first single?
I think it was, yeah.
But who knows?
We wouldn't know.
What are we, experts?
Oh, wait, this is the comprehensive and encyclopedic compendium of all things Huey Lewis.
Oh, shit.
We should fucking know this.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Ghostbusters.
When it goes, comes up to you good shit yeah it's great and the the album is do you got a little water over there shut up do
you have a little water is there is there a glass that has not been used out of these i have no i
don't think i just drink drink right from the thing?
You gonna mind?
Here we go.
Guys, I'm taking a sip of water.
Adam, cover me.
Sports, Huey Lewis,
hard to rock and roll,
want a new drug.
The News, The News, the band members.
Okay, let's see.
Oh, the next album was called Four.
The previous album was called Picture This.
Oh, God.
Okay, let's see.
Singles.
The lead single, Heart and Soul.
Oh, so Heart and Soul was the first single.
Now I gotta take a piss.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
Cover me!
Let's hear a little bit of this.
Heart and Soul. Here we are. From Huey Lewis and the News, here. Okay. Cover me! Let's hear a little bit of this. Heart and Soul.
Here we are from Huey Lewis and the News.
Here's Heart and Soul.
So this was the first single on that album.
1983, I think, was when this came out.
And then they followed that up with the second single, I Want a New Drug.
Let's hear a little bit of I Want a New Drug.
This is the second single from the album Sports by Huey Lewis and the News.
And this song was ripped off by Ray Parker Jr. for Ghostbusters.
Oh, my God.
And then the third single was called The Heart of Rock and Roll.
Let's hear a little bit of that.
I don't have it.
I've never heard that song.
Okay.
Shit.
Welcome back.
Hey, thanks.
You did pretty good.
You could do the show by yourself, I think.
I think a lot of people would prefer it.
Okay, so the fourth single was If This Is It.
So they have four giant singles.
What was the first one? I was pissing. Fifth single, Walking on a Th was If This Is It. So they have four giant singles. What was the first one?
I was pissing.
Fifth single, Walking on a Thin Line.
Holy shit.
What was the first one?
The first one was Heart and Soul.
Heart and Soul was the first, of course.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Let's listen.
Let's hear a little bit of that.
No, thank you.
Okay.
So you, what was the first song you heard by them?
Again, I think it was probably I Want a New Drug.
Because that was like the big like Billie Jean sized hit.
Yeah.
Like the fact that drug was in the title and it was the just say no era.
It was like a controversial thing.
But it was kind of an anti-drug song in a way because it was talking about how the drugs that are out there are not good.
But I wonder if he ever found his new drug.
We should ask him about that.
Well, I think his new drug may have been love.
Kind of boring.
Yeah, probably not.
MTV, the videos, obviously, really big.
I didn't have MTV.
What was going on in your house? I didn't have cable. I didn't have cable. What was going on in your house?
I didn't have cable.
I didn't have cable either.
I would see it on Friday night videos.
Friday night videos.
I saw it all the time.
We didn't have MTV,
but how could we?
They must have just played it everywhere.
I was watching his videos this morning
on YouTube getting ready
and I thought,
why the hell was it only on MTV?
Why didn't a network
just play an hour of videos on Thursday nights and make a bunch of fucking money?
Well, I know we had video one with Richard Blade, but that was mainly like new wave stuff.
But I saw it all the time.
I mean, so it must have just have been on everywhere.
Yeah.
I wonder if they ever played it like like on tv instead of happy days or something
they're just like you know we're not gonna play happy days we're just gonna put on huey lewis if
this is it video yeah maybe and then have 25 minutes of just black screen um i don't know
but yeah that one with his face in the ice and all that that was a big deal um huge stuff and
you did you ever see them live i saw them once i saw them at the paso robles county fair
which is weird and i should ask you about this they were it was like the summer that power of
love came out summer of 85 and they were playing the paso robles county fair why were they doing
that they were the biggest band in the world that That is a little weird, isn't it?
They should have played.
I mean, it was big.
It was sold out and it was, you know, a lot of people.
But it was in the middle of the day?
Middle of the day.
Weird.
Yeah.
That must have been some sort of a payday for them though.
I remember we come in, we were a little late.
Power of Love was playing the first song and I was like, oh my God.
And they were right there.
And I was like, let's just watch this song here.
And my mom's like, no, we got to get to our seats.
And she pulls me and we go,
and our seats are like way behind the band.
But you walked in and you're like,
what concert venue's entrance is right next to the stage?
It was weird.
Because it was outside and it was the fairgrounds.
And your mom, let's just watch Huey.
He's next to us right now.
He's right here.
Son, let's go to oury. He's next to us right now. He's right here. Son, let's go to our seats.
Oh, the policemen will arrest us if we don't go to our seats.
We did end up getting arrested.
You did?
Yeah.
For what?
Vehicular manslaughter?
Because we didn't get to our seats in time.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, we had to go.
How long were you in the pokey?
We were in prison And like lockdown Like hardcore
Solitary?
Maximum security
Solitary confinement prison
What'd you do?
A dime?
Just a little less
Eight years
Eight years?
We got out
Five years good behavior
Shit
Yeah
That's nuts
Well it just goes to show
Your mom was right
You should listen to your moms
I know
We should have gone to those seats
Yeah
Listen to your moms people That's right They know what's up Otherwise you should listen to your moms I know we should have gone to those seats yeah listen to your moms
people
that's right
they know what's up
otherwise you'll go
to prison
what about you Scott
did you ever see
Huey Lewis live
I never did
because
I first heard them
I think the first song
I heard by them was
Do You Believe in Love
oh yeah
that was
I'm sure I heard that
I don't think I knew
who they were
me neither
I just knew that song
yeah by the way great song great song little side note Oh, yeah. It was huge, but I don't think I knew who they were. I just knew that song.
By the way.
Great song.
Great song.
Little side note of trivia. Should I get a note?
Of interest.
No, you don't have to take notes during this.
You can just remember.
Okay.
How good are you at your short-term memory?
What did I just say?
Who?
Okay, take notes.
Take notes. Okay, take notes, take notes.
Okay, here we go.
I really love working for a living.
Working for a living, okay.
Do you mind not writing right next to the mic?
Oh, sorry.
I really love working for a living,
which has a very distinctive hand clapping sound.
Oh, yeah.
Which album is that on?
It's an early one.
I think it's either Picture This or the one right before,
or Huey Lewis and the News.
And so when we... That doesn't get old.
So when we made the Mr. Show movie,
Run, Ronnie, Run. Oh, here we go. There was this idea for the credits that one of the other
writers, BJ Porter and I had had for a movie we had been writing a few years earlier, where
we always thought it would be funny. And I feel like a movie has done this since then but we thought
it would be funny if a song over the credits um not only just described the entire movie that you
just saw but also described how you felt about the movie that you just saw and like uh when you
were sitting there and ronnie did this you thought it was nice um and so i got together with warren
fitzgerald who's the guitarist of the vandals
and also has played with oingo boingo and um we wrote this uh i think bj and i wrote the lyrics
and then uh warren and i wrote this song together based on working on a living working for a living
rather with the like yeah let's hear that uh working for a living? Yeah Okay, yeah
So you can kind of hear what I'm
Everybody's in a net and working for a living
Yeah, here we go
I want to hear those hand claps
I love some good HCs
So we wrote this song for the Mr. Show movie
And it was all about
When Ronnie did this
You thought it was nice
And then when he did this other thing
You thought it was nice
And then when he did this thing
Then you thought it was nice
That's so fucking stupid
Did you use it?
So here's what happened
So I turn it in
And it's just a Huey Lewis kind of ripoff song musically in a way.
But no homage to that of like a feel good song that would be in the 80s.
Turned it in and the director said, he was like done with us at this point.
Yeah.
But he was like, fine, you know what?
The song's fine, but Scott can't sing.
So we have to replace him
what
really
just being a spiteful
dick about it right
oh man
he's like
he can't sing
and like
yeah I can sing
yeah
like uh
everyone knows that
so
but
we were just so like
like everything had to be
a fucking issue
so we were like
alright fine
so we got the
we contacted the band
Ween and the lead singer of Wean sang it dean or gene whichever one uh whichever i don't know who
it was and we get it back and literally i put it on and he sounds exactly like me and i go oh no
this is just the demo of me singing it he sounds exactly like me and then we give it to the
director and he's like yeah good fine and then he puts it in the credits but turns it down super low
so you can't hear any of the any of the lyrics and puts it in a part where like dialogue is
being spoken sounds like a fun uh working it was really great anyway but that relationship that's
a uh a fun song we never put out a soundtrack but uh that's a fun song do you have a copy of it
somewhere i don't even think i have a copy of it anywhere i used to have it on a cd and play it for
people and people are like this is fucking hilarious it sounds just like gets buried in
the movie is it on youtube or something well you can see the you can see the the credits somewhere
but you can barely hear like you can't make out what's being. Why didn't Dave and Bob just direct that movie?
I mean, you know, who knows?
Yeah.
Oh, what about Ween?
We never really talked about Ween.
I was really into Ween for a minute there.
Yeah. In the 90s.
Were you?
I liked, you know what I really liked was their 12 country greats record.
Awesome.
And then I really liked White Pepper.
Yeah, that's good.
And those were the two that I listened to the most probably.
Chocolate and Cheese you didn't get into?
I thought that was okay,
but I remember Marilyn Rice Cub playing that
before every Windows 95 show that she did at the comedy store.
When I first started doing comedy,
she would put that on as the pre-show music.
So you got sick of it? No, just i thought it was fine i just didn't really
devour that album like the other ones man was i into that record but then the country greats was
great and then they they they just broke up didn't they like finally like put a nail maybe yeah i uh
not really sure the mollusk is a good record the mollusk yeah
that's a good one yeah um but we are certainly not here to talk about ween uh nor should we be
as far as i'm concerned absolutely not this is on huey lewis's time that's right because he's
waiting he's waiting yeah we're keeping him waiting that we we've locked him in a bathroom
with the lights off we have a very special bathroom
here at earwolf which has a lock on the outside that's right that we just like to punish people
love to lock people in there it's such a funny prank because people reach for the lock and then
they go wait a minute i'm trapped and but right before we lock them in there we're like okay just
a quick shower before we do the show we like so we get them naked yeah and then we lock them in there, we're like, okay, just a quick shower before we do the show. So we get them naked.
Yeah.
And then we get them in there. We get them naked outside the bathroom first.
Take pictures.
And then push them into the bathroom.
Then they go, wait, there's not even a shower in here.
And then click.
Yeah.
And they're fucking trapped.
They can't do shit.
So Huey's naked in the other room right now.
Wondering what's going on.
Banging on the fucking door.
So if he seems like deeply unhappy,
it's the beginning of the-
Maybe it has something to do with that,
but who knows?
Who knows?
Adam, what's been going on with you?
Of course, we had Hollywood's,
probably Hollywood Awards Night to Shine,
the Oscars the other night.
The old caddies.
The old Oscar dudes is what they call them in town.
Do you remember your promise to our listeners?
That's right.
That if you ever win one, you are in your acceptance speech, you're going to say, I'm going to put this up my butt.
That's right.
I'm very much planning on keeping that promise when I win an Oscar.
Yeah.
What did you do?
You have an Oscar party?
No, I stayed at home this year with my ex-girlfriend,
Kulop, and the dogs, and just watched it from home.
And what'd you think?
What'd you think of the show?
Marvelous.
Yeah.
Just glitz and glamour.
A total, I would say that the Oscars are like a salute to the movies.
Yeah.
Me too.
I would say that.
I would say it's a night to celebrate movies.
To celebrate excellence.
I think this is actually an episode of I Love Films.
I think you're right.
of I Love Films.
I think you're right.
Hey everyone, welcome to I Love Films.
This is Scott.
And this is Scott.
And we are talking, of course, about great films.
Ah, films, films, films.
Three words for you.
Three words for you.
Sell you Lloyd.
Yeah, that's right.
That's one word though. What? No, you're right. That's one word though.
What?
No, you're right.
Lloyd's a word.
Listen.
Lloyd Dobler.
Oh yeah, okay.
From a great film.
And then also sell.
Buy, sell. And then you.
You is maybe the most important word.
I mean, there is no you in team, I'll tell you that much.
That's right.
And speaking of films, teamwork.
Teamwork, that's what's so
important about films one person doesn't make a film i know that uh every once in a while you'll
see that little credit on a film that'll say a film by a spike lee joint yeah but guess what
that film ain't by them but that's what it means joint production a joint venture yeah but that
film ain't by them it's right it's by everybody joint venture. Yeah, but that film ain't by them. That's right.
It's by everybody.
It's a joint venture.
That's what I'm saying.
It's by everybody.
Everybody.
That's right.
Makes a film.
And boy, do I love films.
When you just hit that sweet spot.
Man, watching the Oscars and watching how like this year's great films were represented in those awards.
You know what i mean like every award it seemed like they nominated like things from five different films sometimes performances
that run the gamut of five different selections like different film like different performances
from different films they would nominate they'd be like okay for best actress we're gonna take like
five different actresses from films and put them into this category.
And like sort of almost, I felt like a nomination was almost saying like, hey, these things are good.
Yeah, you did a great job.
And then on the night of the actual Oscars, it's almost like from those five, they decide to pick one of them.
And from those five, they decide to pick one of them.
It's almost like that where they would like go like, okay, one, two, three, four, five.
What if we were to be like, take away one, then take away another one, then take away another one, then take away another one.
What would we be left with?
Just one person.
One thing.
One performance.
Yeah.
But what was confusing to me is sometimes it would be two people yeah but and it wasn't always as far as i'm concerned actors sometimes it was because
that's really all i care about when i watch a film maybe that's what you're talking about is
sometimes it was like a couple people that did something else on a movie. I think if two people can be nominated for writing or something,
two people should be nominated for acting.
Yeah.
And not for the same film either.
Right.
They should be like Laura Dern in Marriage Story
and Griffin Dunn in Succession.
It can be not even a movie too.
You know what I mean?
Or Huey Lewis in I Want a New Drug video.
It could be not even movies.
Not even movies.
Not even from that year.
Yeah.
I also think, what won the best song this year?
I don't know.
I don't even know.
But I remember watching all the performances and kind of going like, okay, all these songs suck.
Just give it to fucking, like what's the best song this year i
know we've talked about this before just give the academy award to whatever the best song is
like give it to fucking billy eilish this year i know she might get it next year for the bond thing
but but didn't she have a song she sang she sang she sang over the memoriam which that was the
other thing i was like if you're gonna, they should automatically give you an Academy Award.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They all get, all those people get Oscars.
They should give every one of them that they show on the thing.
Because how fucking lame is it that some of those people that they put up there on the
In Memoriam don't have an Oscar?
And the Oscars are exploiting them.
Did you feel like it was bullshit that Luke Perry wasn't presented in that?
He's one of celluloid's greatest actors.
And he was in one of the films nominated for whatever they call that award.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Did you see any of the movies this year?
I didn't see anything.
No.
Yeah.
I didn't even know what they were talking about most of the time.
When we watched the Academy Awards, I was like, oh, so this is about movies that just came out?
Just came out?
What is this?
Because some of them I was like, didn't this come out like five years ago?
Yeah, me too.
But then I was watching a commercial.
It turned out it was a commercial.
Yeah.
I saw it was a commercial. Yeah. I saw,
it was a really nice looking car.
Like, this is a beautiful.
Beautiful car.
And I was like,
this is my favorite movie.
Me too.
And then it just turned.
Yeah, it was like 30 seconds long.
I was like,
this is still my favorite movie.
Yeah.
Like nice, short, sweet,
gets to the point.
And then it turned out
to not even be a movie.
No, not even close, bro.
It was a commercial for a car.
But is a car a movie?
As far as I'm concerned.
Why not?
Lots of things are movies.
They should nominate best car every year.
See, if they did that.
And not type of car, like the Escalade or whatever.
I mean like literal best car that's out there.
No best individual
that's what i mean john you know john you know fucking lincoln q publics toyota camry yeah
when that's the oscar this year best car yeah 2020 best car best car and not the one not the
best one that came out this year best just best best car. Just best car. And why is it the best car?
Who knows, man?
Maybe he makes the best use of his slots for the cup holders.
Yeah, like he's got a system where he puts his Big Gulp in one of them and his phone in the other.
Maybe paperclips.
Maybe he works in an office.
He needs paperclips. Yeah. Change. You always need change. Always need change. Throw that. Maybe paperclips. Maybe he works in an office. He needs paperclips.
Yeah.
Change.
You always need change.
Always need change.
It's these days too,
with everyone going paperless,
like you need change
more than ever.
You gotta get that change.
But it was really confusing
and I didn't like it.
Me too.
I walked away from the Oscars.
Yeah, I walked out of my house.
I walked down the street.
I was like, I'm not going back there.
I walked right out into traffic. We had the same experience.
It's so crazy. Wait, and then I met this really interesting guy out in the middle of the traffic.
Me too.
And I was like, you are so interesting. I just had a long conversation with him.
I did too.
And it was so interesting. And it lasted until the sun rose. What did too. About, and it was so interesting and it lasted until like
the sun rose. What did you talk to this guy about? It was just about, it was weird because it was
like, we talked about everything, but also nothing. It was like, we talked about everything
that meant so much to us about life. And yet at the end of it, I was kind of like, whoa,
the time just flew by. And God, this is crazy. Cause we had a, I had a very similar experience.
Really? Like almost exactly the same.
What were the differences and what were the similarities?
There were no differences.
There were, it was only similarities?
Similarities.
Wow.
That's amazing to have two different conversations like that.
And what was the guy you talked to?
What was he wearing?
Do you remember?
I remember he had no shirt on.
That's right.
And it is, how do you know it's right?
It's just weird because now our experience
is even more similar
because I was actually not wearing a shirt
when I walked out of the house.
Oh, interesting.
I was in the middle of changing
when I got super confused because the Oscars ended.
What were you changing out of
and what were you changing into?
I was changing out of a tuxedo
because I liked to wear-
You wanted to watch it.
Yeah, you like to wear what everyone wears.
That's the thing.
When I watch television,
I wear whatever the characters
on whatever shows are wearing.
That's right.
So sometimes it's really comfy.
And then sometimes like for the Oscars.
Yeah, it's a drag.
But then I was going to watch Breaking Bad.
So I was changing into a hazmat suit
and then I got super confused.
So I was wearing hazmat suits. Well, this guy I was talking to, yeah, he was wearing like a into a hazmat suit and then I got super confused. So I was wearing hazmat suits.
Well, this guy I was talking to, yeah, he was wearing like a rolled down hazmat suit that the top wasn't on.
I mean, this is the craziest coincidence.
This is so nuts.
Anyway, a great night that I'll never forget.
The guy I was talking to was showing his nuts.
Hmm.
Weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, I mean, the guy I was talking to was not doing that.
Hmm. Oh, well, I guess the similarities end right there. Oh, well, I'll never forget this guy. I
wish I'd gotten his name or phone number because he was so interesting and really on a great
wavelength with me. But one of those people that I go, you know what? I never met that guy before,
but he could be one of my best friends. I might put an ad in the Close Encounters in LA Weekly.
Yeah.
I might just watch Close Encounters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Speaking of films, this has been I Love Films.
See you next time.
Bye.
Good app.
That was a really good app.
It was an interesting app.
They love films. Oh, man. I love films, too app. It was an interesting app. They love films.
Oh, man.
I love films, too, though, I have to say.
I love, I, look, I love them.
And I love that show.
I love, I love films.
Yeah, I, wait, is this an episode of I Love, I Love Films?
I think so.
Hey, everyone. Welcome to I Love Love I Love Films.
This is Scott.
And this is Scott.
And we're just talking about that podcast, I Love Films, that we love so much.
I love... I love films.
Those guys know their shit.
They know everything there's to know about movies.
But as far as I'm concerned, about life.
That's what's interesting
is it transcends to me
where it's like
yeah yeah
they're talking about movies
which I'm not really
interested in
right
Hollyweird
Hollyweird
Libtard
it's like
can you just
shut up about
politics
for one second
and just
entertain me
you fucking
dancing monkeys
stop
you know what?
Go back to doing what you do best.
Yeah, which is you don't do it all that well.
Keeping your mouth fucking shut.
Yeah, keeping a fucking sock in it.
That's right.
Anyway, I hate movies, but I love the I Love Films podcast.
It's all just about, you know, it's about more than that.
It's about farts.
It's about farts.
The three Fs, farts, future, and friends. Friends. Farts, future, ands. Farts, future, and friends.
Friends.
Farts, future, and friends.
Farts, future, and friends.
Anyway, I love it.
This has been I Love, I Love Films.
Bye.
Bye.
Good F.
Yeah, that was good.
That was good.
Have we talked about Huey Lewis enough?
I think so.
Nothing more to cover as far as, well, was there anything else you're not,
you leave on the table here?
We want to put it all out on the field.
Got to put it all out there.
I got to look.
Anytime I want to have a good time, I turn on Huey Lewis in the news. on the field gotta put it all out there I gotta I gotta look anytime I wanna
have a good time
yeah
I turn on
Huey Lewis
in the news
and it instantly
makes me feel better
that's one of those
one of those things
where it's like
if you're ever
in a funk
yeah
but you wanna
hear some funk
something a little
funky
you know what I mean
a little
R plus B
yeah
if you know what I mean
I'm not talking about
the wonderful billionaire from England and Australia himself, Richard Branson.
No, not him.
I'm talking about rhythm and booze.
Booze, folks.
You just put it on.
You just enjoy yourself.
It's music that transcends time periods too.
Everything.
You know what I mean?
It just still sounds good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to be talking to the man himself, Jimmy Kimmel, as well as Huey Lewis,
in just a second.
And Jimmy Kimmel, by the way, do we want to talk about how this all came to be?
Yeah, sure.
We reached out to jimmy to uh
to just do an episode of this show because we know how much we were talking about just doing
and then we said oh you know jimmy likes huey a lot why don't we reach out to jimmy and jimmy uh
wrote back a really like immediately saying that he doesn't really do a lot of podcasts but how
could he refuse this yeah how could he say no to this that's what it was because we were like let's go through sports track by track by track and let's have jimmy on talking
about how he how much he likes huey lewis and it was jimmy who said why don't i just get huey to
come do it because huey comes uh comes out here to be on jimmy's show a lot and it has stuff
that he's promoting and huey's album just came out last Friday called Weather.
We will talk a little bit about that and we'll probably hear some of it.
This is very exciting.
This is, I mean, this is a big, big show.
Oh, you know what?
Before we go, we get a lot of letters, Adam.
And we don't do a lot of shows.
And I've had a few.
Got him. And we don't do a lot of shows and it's, and I I've had a few, if we don't mention you,
uh, it's because I've had these letters sitting in my office for months waiting to do another episode. And then before I left today, I forgot to bring them, but we have gotten some letters,
uh, uh, from people. So, uh, I want to thank Monica, Andy, Lisa, Dylan, Stephen, Kim, Luke,
I want to thank Monica, Andy, Lisa, Dylan, Stephen, Kim, Luke, Andrea, Olivia.
And we got some vinyl from the early stages.
Thanks so much to all of them for giving us some nice little missives and trinkets and stuff like that.
It means a lot to us that you guys write to us.
All right.
Thanks, guys. So when we come back, we are going to be talking to the man himself, Huey Lewis, and of course, Jimmy Kimmel, number one Huey Lewis superfan.
We'll be right back with a little bit of Huey, talking Huey to me me
we'll be right back
in time
for that
we are back
and this is very exciting.
Adam, are you excited?
I am very excited.
Moderately or at a level that is off the charts?
I'm just, I'm getting tripped up here because I don't know what moderately means.
You don't know what moderately means?
Do you know how to spell it?
Do you want me to use it in a sentence?
Well, I know that it starts with an M.
Okay, I'll use it in a sentence. Are you excited moderately? No. Okay. See,
you know what it means. I'm very excited. You're very excited. Clearing that up. I am very excited.
Very good. Well, we have a couple of special guests on the show. They've never been on,
well, this is the first episode of this particular program that we've done.
They've never been on any of our shows before. Let's first introduce this man. He is a multiple Emmy Award winner. He's hosted
the Academy Awards several times. Jimmy Kimmel is with us. Thank you. Thank you. And by multiple.
And by the way, there's a cameraman in the room who has tripped over a waste paper. There's a cameraman in the room who has tripped over a waste paper. There's garbage everywhere.
There's garbage everywhere.
And right on Jimmy's introduction, he tripped over it and made a giant.
And then, did you hurt yourself, sir?
Are you okay?
Are you okay?
I messed up your camera.
Did you hurt your camera?
Is your camera all right?
The thing about documentary filmmakers is they lurk in the shadows.
That's right.
This is a very bright room.
There's not enough shadows.
You forget they're there.
Jimmy, welcome to the show. So nice to see you. Thank you for having me. That's right. This is a very bright room. There's not enough shadows. You forget they're there. Jimmy, welcome to the show.
So nice to see you.
Thank you for having me.
It's fun to be here.
I feel like Jimmy is qualified to have been on any of our other programs as well.
He is, yes.
I've just not been invited to be on any of the other shows.
Well, we've done a U2 program, and we've done a program centered on REM,
and we've also done a program centered on the band Stained, as well as Todd Glass.
And we call that Stained Glass.
Well, I'm good with three out of those four.
Okay, good.
Yeah, so are we, by the way.
Let me introduce our guest of honor.
He is a multiple Grammy winner, a Golden Globe winner, an Academy Award nominee.
Should have won. Oh, Award nominee. Should have won.
Should have won.
What did win?
I know.
If you don't know, I know.
You're asking me?
Say You, Say Me by Lionel Richie.
That's a good song, too, from the classic White Nights.
I saw that three times because the girl I had a crush on in 1985 was a dancer,
and she loved it, and I saw it with her three times, hoping she would kiss me.
And interestingly— Did she loved it. And I saw it with her three times, hoping she would kiss me. And interestingly.
Did she?
No.
Yeah.
And interestingly, we, on that, you know, we were invited because we were nominated to the Academy Awards.
Yeah.
And I think there was a poll beforehand.
We were like three to one favorites to win.
Yeah.
And then, so we, when we enter, my band and I, and we have our seats assigned, as we get to our seats, sitting in the row just in front of me, turns around, it's Marvin Hamlisch.
He says, hey, Huey Lewis, I'm a big fan.
I said, oh, I'm Marvin Hamlisch.
I said, oh, yeah, great, great to meet you, everything.
He says, yeah, sorry, man.
I said, what?
He says, Lionel's on the aisle.
Oh, no.
He says, Lionel's on the aisle.
Oh, nice.
So if anybody wants to know whether the fix is in any of these award shows, just say it. The lion aisle.
Well, let me introduce you.
Huey Lewis is here.
Oh.
Hello.
Thank you.
And I have two Emmy Awards, and Adam, what do you have?
Zero of everything.
I have to just tell you that 13-year-old me was really fucking pissed off when you lost that Academy Award.
Why were you not allowed to sing it on the telecast?
We did.
You did sing it.
Okay, great, great, great.
How was that?
What was that like?
It was okay, but they wouldn't let us play it.
I sang live to track.
Oh, okay.
And they wouldn't let the band play.
I sang live, but we let live to track, which in those was like one of the first times they made us sing live to track.
Yeah.
Right.
Now, of course, all award shows are live to track.
Right.
Why do they do that?
Are they just worried about the sound problems or the band being unpredictable or what is it?
Everything.
I think it's a staging issue primarily because they have to get a setup in there and then move it out and then move something else in.
This is some good intel from the host of the Academy Awards himself.
Actually, there was always the Grammy Awards were always live, always live.
And there was always feedback or something or one guy's mic would go out and there were problems and they always lasted too long. And so Dick Clark created the American Music Awards out of whole cloth just to kick their ass.
Right.
And did.
And we did it with live to track and they could time everything perfectly because they knew exactly how long to record.
And so the Grammys had to follow suit.
They just got killed and they had to tighten their act and do it like that. So that makes the
show way longer just dealing with
live music. Yeah, because you've got to
set everything up, put microphones,
chords. I remember you presenting
with Madonna at the American Music Awards.
They gave the award to Prince.
So the three of you,
amazing. Speaking of Prince,
I know we're going to jump all over the place with you,
Huey.
I was reading about We Are the World today.
Right.
And, of course, the line that you sang is classic.
Right.
But it was not meant for you to sing.
Originally, no.
It was meant for Prince.
It was Prince's line.
Really?
Yeah, but Prince didn't show up to We Are the World.
He was upset at something that happened in the Grammys or something. At the American Music Awards. Or at the American Music Awards. Right, right, right. He didn't show up till We Are the World. He was upset at something that happened in the Grammys or something.
At the American Music Awards. Or at the American Music Awards.
Right, right, right.
He didn't, whatever.
He didn't win or something.
He didn't show up.
And now they figured out he's not showed up.
And we're done.
We've sung the chorus and I'm in the lounge, you know, with.
So you didn't have a solo line originally?
Not, I.
Insanity.
And now they come get me and they say quincy wants to see you and i
go see quincy and quincy says uh smelly come here he called michael smelly because he was so clean
and and uh he says sing sing your sing your line to huey and he sang the line he goes huey sing it
i'm sitting there you know michael jackson sang my line he says great you got it and that's wow
wow right place right time and and what did you what did you think about Cyndi Lauper coming right after you going, wow, wow,
wow, wow? What was that about? I don't know. I don't know. But I do remember that at the end of
the, I do remember being, you know, when we started the lead vocal, they did all the chorus
first and then boom. Sorry.. Then we did the lead vocals.
Yeah.
They wanted to do it in one pass, because they only had like five mics, and they had
15 people.
So three guys on each mic, and you'd lean into the mic, sing your line, get out of the
way, next person to line, next person, and so on.
And because of the leakage, they wanted it all to be live.
So they started off with, I guess, Lionel.
Here comes the time when we hear the certain girl.
And then When the World Was Coming.
There are people dying.
And Stevie Wonder would kind of intentionally screw up his line.
And almost, you know.
There are people dying.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait.
Stop, stop, stop.
So then they go again.
And they get about down to Al Jarreau.
And he screws up somehow.
And they go back again. And they about down to al joroh and he screws up somehow and they go back again and they
go back to someone and meanwhile these guys are getting three takes and i haven't sung my line
right because you're further down the line i'm way down the line so i say when humberto comes
out to adjust humberto gattaca the engineer to adjust the microphones to say humberto can you
just let it go anyway so we can have a little bit of a shot at it yeah and uh he says oh okay and he goes back in and michael i was right next to michael and michael goes good idea good idea
michael jackson was right next to me for that whole thing and he did not miss a trek man i mean
you know he just seems like he's just kind of ethereal thing but he was so onto that thing
because when we finally did a pass all the way around, and it wasn't very good.
And then we did a second pass all the way around, and it was really good.
It was pretty good all the way around.
And then Quincy just goes, let's do another one.
And I saw him go to Humberto through the glass, say, save that one.
And then let's do another one.
And he started another one.
And right away, Michael grabs me and says, they're saving the last one, aren't they?
I said, yeah, they're saving the last one.
He says, oh, good.
Because that's the one.
Is that the one they used?
The second one?
Yeah, it was the one they used.
Okay, yeah, wow.
But Michael knew.
He knew all that stuff.
Yeah.
And was that separate from the video?
Isn't you guys actually recording the song?
Is it?
Or was that the actual?
Yeah, did you lip sync in the video to the?
No, no, no.
That was the video.
They just shot it. They just shot it. Wow. Okay. wow okay it's incredible what a day that's why we're so ugly
when we get trying to hit those notes um jimmy i gotta turn to you there's so many questions
uh that i can think of we shot the the i'm fucking ben affleck video in that very in the
exact same studio where is the studio it It's Jim Henson's studio.
Oh, it is, yeah.
B&M.
We did the Ferns score there.
Yeah, they do a lot of stuff there,
and Huey was in that one, too.
It was fantastic.
Huey's the only one that was in both.
That's amazing.
What an honor.
Jimmy, there are so many questions
I could think of to ask you,
but the one that pops up primarily
is when did you first hear of Huey Lewis in the news?
I'll tell you when.
Well, I heard about him on the radio, of course, but Cleto, who is my band leader.
Is there like a news bulletin about them?
My band leader, Cleto, who's my best friend since I was nine years old.
We grew up right across the street from each other.
He stole a little suitcase full of cassette tapes out of a boat.
Wait a minute.
There are boats in Las Vegas?
It was like somebody, you know, was on a street and somebody had it parked and Cleto like looked in there and there were cassette tapes.
And he took it and he brought it home.
And one of the tapes was Picture This, Huey Lewis's album before sports.
And we started listening to it and we
started listening to it a lot. And we became that's how we became fans. And then my cousin,
Sal, who lived in Long Island, we were in Las Vegas. He also at the same time fell in love
with Huey Lewis and it became a formative part of our childhood. Sure. And then sports comes out
and it's the biggest album ever. And
that must have been a huge deal for you guys. I went to the Thomas and Max Center in Las Vegas
at five o'clock in the morning by myself to buy tickets to see Huey Lewis and the News. And I was
like fifth or seventh in line. I remember thinking like, oh, geez, I'm not, I got up so early.
I'm not even first in line.
And we waited until the box office opened at like nine and I got tickets and I was very excited.
And then it was a matter of who I'm going to let come to this concert with me.
Who did you let come?
A few of my friends from high school.
Oh, good.
And did you have good seats?
Yeah.
How close were the seats?
They were not as good as they should have been.
That's the thing.
Like I waited up all night to see you two, and I was in the back row of, like, the sports.
You know, it's funny, though.
Until you asked me how good the seats were, I never thought about that.
Right.
I never thought about the fact that the seats weren't that great.
Do they save all the good seats for, like, all the promoters and stuff like that?
I mean, it's such a scam.
The fix is in there, too, for sure.
There's no question about it.
Yeah.
And what they do nowadays is they save it for the VIP deal.
Yeah, yeah.
So you pay extra money, you get better seats, and then you get to meet the band, which is
something I don't understand at all.
Why?
Well, these big bands, I mean, why do the bands do this?
Oh, for money, right?
Okay, for money.
So let's look at that. Or maybe to get some sex. I don't know this? Oh, for money, right? Okay, for money. So let's look at that.
Or maybe to get some sex.
I don't know.
That could be too, right?
These big bands, pick a band, Journey, something like that.
Big bands?
They're on stage for two hours.
Right.
And they're making a lot of money.
I mean, what are they making?
They've got to be making five figures.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Some of them.
Sure.
So they decided they're going to add another hour pre-show meet and greet and stuff so they can make another 10 grand.
I don't get it.
It's like the concert's two hours and the meet and greet's almost an hour.
Yeah, it's two hours sometimes.
And you get nothing.
But you know the reality is. And very what happens is the artist, oh, I forgot. I got to do hours. Yeah, it's two hours sometimes. And you get nothing. But you know the reality is.
And very what happens is the artist, oh, I forgot.
I got to do the video.
And he's miserable.
And now the people who paid $400 for the meet and greet, he's not very nice.
He wasn't very nice to me.
And then they don't like him.
It backfires.
But didn't you have to do like meet and greets with radio guys and stuff?
Like crazy.
So maybe if you got paid for that, it would have been better.
Maybe that's what they're doing.
They're doing the same thing, except now they're getting paid for it.
What we used to do is sign autographs afterwards and set up a table and then for backstage
piece and we'd just sign autographs.
Yeah.
Huey, let's go back to the beginning, if we can.
Marin County is where you- That'll be Louis Armstrong was the beginning. Was the beginning if we can, uh, uh, Marin County is where you,
that'll be,
that'll be Lewis.
Lewis Armstrong was the beginning of music or jazz.
Uh,
you,
you were in England for a while.
You were in the band Clover,
right?
Uh,
which Clover,
if Pete,
uh,
put out a couple of records and also was the backing band for Elvis Costello's
first record.
But you were,
you did not play on that.
No,
me,
neither,
neither I, neither I, nor the lead singer, Alex Call.
Explain why you didn't play on that album.
Well, I just played harmonica.
But didn't you decide to go somewhere with your girlfriend for the weekend?
Yeah, Elvis Costello asked me, he said,
I do have a couple songs that you could play on if you'd like,
but they were going to be doing this for a week.
Yeah.
And it was our first week off.
They worked really crazy.
And I had my girlfriend over there, and we went to Amsterdam for the week.
So which songs could you have played on?
I have no idea.
I can't remember.
Like Welcome to the Working Week or Watching the Detectives?
Red Shoes.
I don't know.
Right.
It's from My Name is True, right?
That's the record?
Yeah.
Yeah.
detectives. Red Shoes, I don't know. Right. It's from My Name is True, right? That's the record?
Yeah. So I read something recently where you were kind of taking a look at the pub rock scene, which had Nick Lowe and Dave Edmonds and all the rock pile people. And you sort of were very
inspired by that and said, oh, I would like to go back to the US and do sort of my version of that.
Is that what kind of- Sort of. I mean, Clover was mostly a country rock band,
and we were signed by Dave Robinson and Jake Riviera,
who managed Elvis, Grand Parker.
The Stiff Records.
And started Stiff Records.
Right.
But they hadn't done any of that when they,
and England was kind of between fads at the moment,
and they figured that pub rock was going to be the new thing. And, uh,
cause the Brinsley Schwartz and Nick Lowe was in Brinsley Schwartz and they,
they worshiped Clover. They loved, they, they had the, I don't know,
worship's too big a word, but they like Clover had the record and so on.
So they knew kind of who we were and everything.
So they thought they'd sign us. And well, the day we landed, you know, uh,
Johnny Rotten spit in the face of the first NME reporter and the
game was on.
And so the punk thing exploded and we were wrong place, wrong time.
But the punks were, for me, liberating because they were like thumbing their nose at the
music.
You know, my voice is kind of, you know, it's a rough, gruff voice.
I didn't have a radio voice for the 70s and all that stuff. And so I didn't
sing a lot in Clover. I didn't care. I was playing harmonica, just trying to exist, you know, play
music for a living. But with the punks, it seemed like something that was very liberating because
they weren't trying to groom themselves for record labels or any of that stuff. They were just doing
their own thing, singing their own quirky songs their own way.
And I vowed that that's what I would do
if our band ever broke up, but not musically.
Musically, I would be R&B based
because I was sick of the guitar stuff.
And that's pretty much what I did.
So when you came back to the US,
you got a bunch of like-minded individuals how did you find
the band i i came back to the to the u.s and then i i started i got a uh a club there was a club
called lion's share and they said how would you like to do monday nights here i said great i got
monday nights which was an off night but was a kind of a good night for us in Marin County because we traditionally through the years played Monday night.
So I created this thing called Monday Night Live, which was a band.
That sounds like copyright infringement for Saturday Night Live.
And we had different bands and comedians and both. And quietly, I assembled this band and I sang all the songs.
Finally, I assembled this band and I sang all the songs.
And so then we got offered free studio time because the studio manager from somewhere came to see the gig and couldn't get in because it was quite popular.
And so she said, hey, how would you like some free studio time?
I said, fine.
And for a laugh, we cut one of the songs we were doing, which was called Exodisco.
It was a disco version of Exodus.
It was pretty funny. Of Bob Marley's Exodus?
Bob Marley's Exodusodus huh bob marley's exodus
and it was the disco version of the disco we called exodisco and we did it for a laugh
peewee ellis played harmonic played a saxophone on Pee Wee was a member of the Monday Night Live band.
Pee Wee Ellis wrote Cold Sweat for James Brown.
Oh, wow.
And so it was a great group of musicians, and we did this thing for a laugh.
And so I had this.
That's what we used the free studio time for.
I had this exodisco thing.
Now I get a call from Dave Edmonds, from Nick Lowe, who says, we want you to play on, I want you to play on one of my songs.
And Rockpile wants to cut Bad is Bad.
Come over to Britain and do it.
I flew over to Britain, you know, cheaply.
Flew, went straight to the studio, cut Nick's song, cut Bad is Bad with Edmonds and Rockpile.
And then there was a lull, and the record company comes by to hear the tracks.
They hear the tracks, and then there's,
you know, we're done. I said, anybody want to hear
something? And there was kind of a lull in the
conversation. Want to hear something funny? They said,
yeah. And I put on Exodisco.
And the record company
loved it. They said, man, that could be a hit.
And so they split. I said, what do
I do? Jake Rivera says, ask him
for 11 points, and don't leave without getting the check.
He says, get 3,000 pounds.
And if they want you to do something else on the record, do it.
But say yes, but don't leave without the check.
So I go the next day to the record company.
I do all that.
They write me a check for 3,000 pounds.
But they want more vocal on it.
They want me to sing a little more on it because I had just gone,
X and X, a little bit.
So I said, no problem.
Give me the check.
They give me the check.
I go back to San Francisco.
I go, boys, we got something going here.
I went back to the studio to add vocal to this multi-track,
and they had erased the multi-track by accident because the tones were on it
also. And with analog machines, you had to by accident because the tones were on it also.
And with analog machines, you had to align the machine with tones.
Most people had a tone reel just for that.
But because they were cheap and it was a demo session, they used the tones at the head of our tape.
And so while they were regulating it, calibrating it, they went into the song and erased the first part of the song.
So I said, I just made a deal for this.
I got it.
They said, well, no problem.
We'll give you plenty of time.
How much time?
I said, I'm going to need a week.
I need a week.
They said, no problem.
They gave me a week.
So I took the Exodisco two-track master,
put it on two of the multi-track of the 24,
sang over another track, mixed it down.
Took me two hours, done.
And then I spent the week cutting three other songs with the band.
Wow.
And those songs got us our manager and eventually our record deal.
Wow.
Amazing.
What are those songs?
Because Bad is Bad, you held till sports.
Those songs were They All they all come to suzy which is and uh annie don't lie
and a song called now here's you that ended up on our first round sure wow and is that by the way
adam i i liked uh adam i want to say i liked how when he was talking about the tones on the on
you said yeah like you knew what what he was talking about like i knew exactly what he was
saying that's right.
Yeah, it was before you were born, Adam. Of course.
So let's jump ahead then to suddenly you have a hit record.
You have Do You Believe in Love, which was written by Mutt Lang.
Mutt Lang.
I rewrote it a little bit, but most, 90% of it is Mutt Lang.
And so suddenly you have a hit song on the radio.
What is that like?
Fantastic.
And that's just, Jimmy, this is the song that you, that's on Picture This, which.
Yeah, yeah, which I love that album.
Yeah, I love all the songs on that album.
But that was the big hit.
That was the one that.
Well, that was the hit.
And we'd cut it and we asked and Mutt set the song.
We knew it was commercial.
We cut it.
We heard that KFRC was going to add that song to this.
And KFRC was the big Parallel One station in San Francisco.
Yeah, I remember KFRC.
And they did all their ads on Tuesdays.
So we assembled.
The whole band congregated at my house at 2 o'clock on Tuesday.
They were going to play between 2 and 6.
And we sat there and watched the radio, you know.
But like about 3 o'clock.
I remember it was early.
It wasn't, wasn't three o'clock or so.
Bingo.
The guy says, here's another new song or local band Huey Lewis news.
And they played, do you believe in love?
And you know, those, those parallel one stations have big compressors.
So they really make a sound kind of almost distorted and powerful, really nice.
Or I remember thinking two things first,, when I heard it, I said,
it didn't sound anything like us.
It was like, oh my God, I sang that song.
We produced that song.
I've heard it a hundred times.
That sounds like somebody else.
And number two, it sounded like a hit.
Yeah.
Why do you say it sounded like someone else? Like it sounded like a big hit?
It sounded like a record all of a sudden.
Let's hear a little bit of it.
It's so good.
So good.
It puts you in a good mood just right away, right?
It's KFRC, Huey Lewis and the News.
Yeah, that's it.
On the way to work.
You love this song, On the Way to Work.
Yeah.
I do believe in love.
Amazing.
We actually have a new arrangement to it. We do. Well, we do. in love. Amazing. We actually have a new arrangement to it.
We do.
Well, we do.
We did.
That's even.
If you could perform.
Yeah, if you could perform it.
Yeah.
What's the new arrangement like?
It's like stand by me.
Oh, really?
Interesting.
Yeah.
So then after this record, you have a hit.
So does the label sort of trust you
like they're they're thinking the next record is going to be even bigger well that was picture this
and so which we produced ourselves but it only sold like 250 000 copies which in those days was
kind of break even because we had a nice record deal. So now we have to make our third record and sports. And so
we insisted on producing ourselves because we knew we had to have a hit single and we wanted
to make those commercial decisions ourselves rather than, you know, go to go have a producer
do it or any of that stuff. So our manager fought for that. And our label was 6,000 miles away in
London and couldn't really control us.
So bingo, we're producing our own record.
And sports, and we knew we needed a hit single.
1982, that record was recorded.
It was a radio world.
There was no internet.
There was no jam bands.
There was no FM radio was programmed.
CHR, Contemporary Hit Radio, was the only format that made a difference.
If you didn't have a hit on CHR, you didn't exist.
This was our third album, the last album of our contract.
We had to have a hit record.
And that was the hardest thing for my band because my voice.
And we hadn't really written a lot and all that sort of stuff.
So with sports, we aimed every song right at radio.
But we wanted them all to be different because we didn't know if it was going to be a rock song.
So we had, you know, Walking on a Thin Line, we had Bad as Bad.
And we knew we needed a hit.
We didn't know we were going to have five of them, you know, but we knew we needed one.
And now when I listen to that record or look at that record, it sounds like a record of its time, a collection of singles.
Yeah, it really does.
It sounds like a best of album.
That was what was going on.
More bands should try to make every song a hit.
Don't you agree?
Not necessarily.
It sounds like such an easy formula.
Not necessarily, no.
I don't necessarily agree with that.
Really?
There's a lot of songs that aren't hits
that are fantastic.
Name one. I can't hits that are fantastic. Name one.
I can't
even think of one. I've been thinking of several.
He's just goofing around.
Sports. I remember
I think I watched your Behind the Music
and you were talking about how you guys
produced yourself and
you had sort of a production
style that you was very unique to you guys.
I thought.
That you then felt like everyone on the radio sort of copied.
I never said that, I don't think.
Did you think it though?
Did you think it?
I thought we moved the ball forward a little bit i mean our my thing there when we were making a record and um and we had this tune
want a new drug which went right and i said a little bit and and we were recording at the
record plant and we cut the song and and next door was uh the austrian producer peter wolf
was was assisting ron uh ron nevison with a Jefferson Starship record, I guess.
Or they started it.
And Peter Wolfe was one of the first guys to use some claviers and all the machines.
And they had a gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk, gunk.
It was going on.
And I went, wow, that would be so cool on one new drug to sequence that thing.
So I said to Peter, I said, Peter, at a break, I said, can you show me how to?
He said, no problem.
So he came in and hooked up our Linn drum, and we cut that.
So sports was cut to a machine's lot of it.
It's actually cut and paste.
It's not a bar band record at all, although we have since then captured records as complete performances.
But that record wasn't like that at all.
Was most of the bass then programmed on?
Yeah, the dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun is sequenced.
Right, wow.
And then we overdubbed cymbals.
Yeah.
And tom-tom fills and everything else.
And that song, walking on a thin line is sequenced.
Yeah, right.
It starts like that.
Bad is Bad goes,
So it goes from Lindrum,
which was brand new in 1982.
Lindrum, I'd heard about it
because we heard,
we worshiped the studio cats
and Toto were the cats.
I mean, you know, Toto who made Michael Jackson's Thriller, right?
Yeah, Jeff Piccaro, man.
I mean, he was the man.
And we heard that this guy, Roger Lynn, had Jeff Piccaro's drums in a box.
I said, what?
He's got his drums in a, it's a chip.
I said, what's a chip?
No, it's a box.
It's a Lynn drum.
And so that's what we, so we got to get us one of those.
And that's what we did.
And so Bad is Bad is interesting that way.
It's a prime example of our theory, which is the new and the old at once.
The bar band R&B structures with the new technology.
Exactly.
And Jimmy, describe when sports comes out.
What is that like for you?
When Huey and I recorded sports, we were at odds a little bit over some of the tracks.
That's a bummer.
I know, it's funny.
I feel like oats.
He was making it and I was listening to it.
But you are Huey Lewis's number one fan.
I have to be, right?
I mean, you know.
Huey Lewis is number one fan.
I have to be, right?
I mean, you know.
There's only maybe two people on the planet who know our music as well as Jimmy Kimmel. Who's the other one?
My cousin Sal.
Well, okay.
So three.
Excepting Sal.
Okay.
Two other people.
One is the producer of our new musical, Harder Rock and Roll.
Okay.
Tyler Mitchell.
Does he have a show?
No. I mean, like a talk show? Roll. Okay. Tyler Mitchell. Does he have a show? No.
I mean, like a talk show?
No.
Okay.
He is removed from this conversation.
Who else do I get?
He's a distant second.
There's an Uber fan called Don who lives in Ohio.
Don.
Who wants to go head to head with you, Jimmy.
Oh, really?
Me and Don in Ohio?
He says, and he's a funny guy.
Yeah, but then if he loses, he kills himself. and then I'm the guy who killed Don from Ohio.
But if he wins, can he have your talk show?
Yes, he can.
We've got to get Don on the show.
We've got to get Don on this.
We've got to get Don out of Ohio for the first time.
Well, yes.
No, I was working at Miller's Outpost in Las Vegas.
Wow.
Clothing store.
The clothing store that had Levi's.
It had a basically sold Levi's and you'd go into it and they would fit you into whatever Levi's made.
We would fit you into Levi's, but none of us really knew how to fit you into Levi's.
But also Levi's are already made.
Well, they were shrink to fit.
So the idea of this shrink to fit, like if you were to get in the washing machine and dryer with the Levi's, maybe they would shrink.
Otherwise, they're just going to shrink.
I would just say people and people go, so how much are these going to shrink?
And I'm like, how are they fitting?
And like, yeah, they're a little tight.
I'll be like, yeah, they won't shrink that much.
No clue.
We just wanted to get them out of the store.
Yeah.
So I was working there listening to the radio like a maniac.
I mean, I was really, really into radio.
Could you play the radio in the store?
Yeah, the radio was playing in the store.
I had a favorite radio station, KYRK in Las Vegas.
I listened to it at all times.
And I bought the cassette when it came out, and I just listened to it a million times.
And so to me, when most of those songs were hits, I already knew them well already.
They were hits in my car before that.
And I love to sing along with Huey's songs.
We are kind of in the same vocal range. Yep. And years later, my cousins, I was on, I was doing football picks on NFL Sunday on Fox Sports.
And I had the week off and Huey was doing a show up in Northern California.
And I said, I said, Sal, let's go.
Let's, you know, let's go up there and go to the show.
And I don't know, maybe if we call them, though, we can have a meet and greet.
Those meet and greets that Huey loves.
So we go up there and they said, yeah, sure, or whatever.
And we go up and after the show, Huey comes out
and he's eating a sausage, some big Italian beef sausage.
And his breath smells like garlic.
And he goes, what are you guys doing up here?
And we said, hey, we came up to see you. He goes, no, really, what are you guys doing up here? And we said, hey, we came up to see you.
He goes, no, really, what are you guys doing up here?
I was like, oh, we came to see you.
He was like, oh, all right.
I drove from L.A. to come to see this show.
Yeah, yeah, we did.
I said, you've got to be kidding me.
Yeah, we did.
And we were very excited on the way home.
We called my parents from the car.
Did you talk to Huey Lewis?
Yeah. We met Huey Lewis. Were they proud of you?
They were happy for us, for sure.
By the way, since then, Jimmy
actually knows
more, probably could
knows more lyrics
if we were just to recite lyrics or songs
now from memory
than I do.
Well, there's not a, not probably. We had a contest on the show and I beat you 10 to nothing.
Wow.
That's, that's humiliating.
So Jimmy could go on tour with you and just sit on the, in the front of the stage and prompt you.
We've been thinking of starting a reality.
I want a new line.
A show called America's Next Top Huey Lewis.
And I feel like I could win it you would be the only
contestant
it would be like that
in excess reality show
yeah right
him and Don
would be the only contestant
yeah you and Don
going down
so and then
so MTV
is just starting
around the time
that sports comes out
so what is that like
you know
just seeing
for me
we didn't have cable so that was but we had a local channel in Las Vegas called V21.
It was a UHF station. And so that was like, if you were poor, that was your version of MTV.
So that's really where I watched a lot of these videos. And I think my favorite of the videos
is probably If This Is It.
Yes.
Classic on the beach.
And Adam, you were saying that that was.
Yes, you shot that in Santa Cruz, which is where I grew up.
And so you guys coming to Santa Cruz at the height, because that's like the third.
The Dream Hotel, right?
What was the name of it?
The Dream Inn.
Yeah, Dream Inn.
It's still there.
But the third or fourth single.
So you guys were the band and you guys coming to Santa Cruz was the biggest deal.
My stepsister is an extra in the background of the shot where the guy's heads are in the sand.
Right.
She's sitting right behind you.
And that was, I can't even tell you what it was.
And then you played the game on the boardwalk.
You threw the ball through the teeth of the guys.
Big, big deal.
And I missed it. I wasn't able to go down. You arguing with your girlfriend on the boardwalk. You threw the ball through the teeth of the guys. Big, big deal. And I missed it.
I wasn't able to go down.
You arguing with your girlfriend on the phone.
Oh, yeah, that's good stuff.
You know, we had that.
That was our video.
You know, we had videos.
It's kind of the story is, Do You Believe in Love was our first professional video.
And we made these two videos before that helped us get a record deal.
Because there was an outfit called Video West in San Francisco run by a gal called Kim Dempster.
And there was this videotape, just been invented.
This was 78.
Right.
Just been invented.
And she said, and they had a channel called Video West that would show videos at 1 o'clock in the morning.
She said, look, we'll make a video of you guys, and you can have it if we can show it on our show twice.
I said, great.
So I schemed these two videos for Some of My Lives Are True and Don't Never Tell Me That You Love Me.
And if you ask me, they're the best videos we ever made.
I've never seen those videos.
Oh, it's fantastic.
Really?
On YouTube?
I don't know.
Some of my lives are true. It's hilarious.
We did it on a sewage pier out
in the middle of the ocean
beach. And we're dressed in suits
and stuff in the middle. You guys were
big with suits on the beach.
It's true. You're one idea.
I swiped all this from
I once saw James Brown
on Hullabaloo.
And there were all these people on the beach in a swimming pool.
And everybody was in bathing suits and stuff. And here's James Brown going, dancing amongst, it was just so incongruous.
I thought, that is cool.
So was your pitch for the Power of Love video like, what if we were on the beach and we were wearing suits?
We've already done it twice.
But anyway, so our first professional video was,
do you believe in love?
And the label thought it was going to be a hit
and they want to have a video.
So they said, we're going to hire
a really top-notch advertising guy.
And this guy, the backdrop was all pastels,
you know, like this torn pastel kind of look. And then they matched our clothes to the pastels you know like uh this torn pastel kind of look and then they matched our clothes
to the pastels and we had you know a lot of makeup on yeah this is the one where we're singing in the
bed we're six of us in the bed sick and we do we shoot it all day and now a week later we go to
see the rough cut and and come to the label see the rough cut there's like 10 people from the
record business 10 people from the record label 10 people from the record business, 10 people from the record label, 10 people from the video company, and 10 people, say, from our band and a few people.
So it was like 30 people.
They say, okay, here it is.
Remember, it's just a rough cut.
We haven't colorized it yet.
It's going to look a lot better and all this stuff.
No problem.
Boom.
They shut the lights off.
They show the video.
My heart sank.
It was horrible. There was no off. They show the video. My heart sank. It was horrible.
There was no direction.
There was no story.
You look like a hostage in that video.
It's troublesome.
What is this guy doing?
What is his purpose?
He's freaking wandering through the thing, singing into the air.
It's definitely for a 2020, it's a little, because it's a group of like eight guys standing around a bed looking at a woman asleep, asking her if she believes in love.
It's a horrible video, right?
And how do you answer that question too in that situation?
Get out of my room, please.
No is no in the answer.
What will make you leave?
But as soon as the song is over the video's over and i'm i'm
heartbroken i think oh god this is horrible boom video ends tumultuous applause wow everybody loved
it and i remember thinking well clearly anybody can do this we're gonna do our own videos from
now on did you so did you direct the videos? Well, no. We got a friend.
Oh, a friend.
Yeah.
They were your ideas.
I mean, it was a group thing.
All of our videos from now on have been always.
If you're listening to this and you haven't seen the, if this video.
Watch it.
You should look it up and watch it because it is incredible.
I mean, the fat family being eaten by a shark.
How about the shark?
Yeah.
And Mario with a cigarette.
Lots of gas.
You bury the band up to
their necks.
Everyone other than you is buried up to their necks.
Were they okay with that? That's like a fear
of mine. That's a really great point.
What's funny about that, what's really
funny about that, is that they were
miserable. Oh, I can imagine.
They were.
And had to bob their heads back and forth.
Almost as bad as doing it all for my baby.
When we had them in the.
Monster.
Put them in the, you know, the formaldehyde jars.
And then we had the horn section hanging from the thing.
And I'll never forget it, we had tower power
they put up trusses on them
and they're hanging them against
the thing and I'm looking at them
and they're miserable
they're having such
a terrible time. And is there any sort
of resentment to you because you don't have to
do this stuff?
We're musicians, right?
We think, well, sure, we'll do it okay, whatever. you don't have to do this stuff or yeah you know we're musicians right we think well show business
sure we'll do it okay whatever and then you're in that situation and you wonder why yeah um
since we're on the sports album there's one question i've always wanted to ask you
uh the the heart of rock and roll it really really kicks him in the in the what in the ass
oh right that makes sense right that makes sense it could have been any body part really It really, really kicks him in the what? In the ass. Oh.
Write it down. That makes sense.
Write it down.
That makes sense.
It could have been any body part, really.
Yeah.
Chin?
Yeah.
Well, no, it had to rhyme with what is it?
Cash.
That's the other one?
Cash.
Cash.
Really?
Not cash.
Makes a lot of, what is it?
Makes a lot.
I have to start from the beginning.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, go ahead, Jimmy.
Let's hear it.
I can't remember.
New York? New York kicks him in the uh-uh, uh-uh Jimmy. Let's hear it. I can't remember. New York.
Kicks him in the uh-uh, uh-uh.
It doesn't really rhyme.
It's not like a rhyme line.
It was something I wanted to see.
Neal Wright's pretty great.
Flash, flash, flash.
Oh, flash, flash.
They like it with a lot of flash.
A lot of flash.
That's right.
That rhymes.
Yeah.
That's an imperfect rhyme.
Seems like you could have figured that one out on your own.
I've never known.
I've always wondered.
It's been close to 30 years at this point.
Or over 30 years.
My cousin Sal and I had a longstanding and occasionally violent argument over one of the lines in your song.
And if this is it, you'd say anything to a butterfly.
I thought it was you'd say anything to a butterfly he thought it was you'd say anything to a butterfly it's to avoid a fight but uh we he would not accept that it was to a butterfly oh
sal was on the i was like sal how does that make any sense you'd say anything to a butterfly it's
poetic i think it's gorgeous either way so then uh uh the sports sports comes out it's a huge huge hit and then in 1984 is it your
approach to do back to the future uh probably 85 85 it came out in 85 summer of 85 so yeah yeah
beginning of 85 somewhere around there i thought it was 86 power love when uh 85 because he travels from 85 to back to 55 all right so 84 um uh yeah 84
someone the director comes up to you steven spielberg bob zemeckis bob gale and neil canton
who produced wrote a produced directed and wrote the film all of them uh had him we had a meeting
in amblin amblin was brand new.
It was the first year they'd just started.
Spielberg had just started Amblin,
and they had a meeting, and Zemeckis said,
look, we've just written this film called
Back to the Future, and the lead character
is this guy called Marty McFly,
whose favorite band would be Huey Lewis and the News.
So we thought, how would you like to write a song for us?
And I said, great, flattered, you know,
but don't know how to write for film necessarily.
And honestly, I don't fancy writing a song called Back to the Future.
And they said, oh, we don't care what it's called.
We just want one of your songs.
I said, great, I'll go and the next thing we write i'll
send down to you and and power love was the next thing we wrote and that and and first of all when
you say you don't want to write a song called back to the future is it because nothing rhymes
with future kind of and what would it be about and you did write it you did write back in time
what happened was we i hadn't seen the movie or anything or read the script or anything.
So I sent Power Love.
We'd written Power Love, and I sent it down.
And so the way I remember it is that was it.
Zemeckis remembers it differently.
He remembers that he's got the song and thought it wasn't up enough.
It wasn't up enough.
And I said, really?
Power Love. Yeah, Power Love. And And I said, really? Power of love.
Yeah, power of love.
I said, and that's because the verse is in minor key.
And I guess we, I can't remember the chorus, what we had,
but I guess, and he claims that's when we put
that big major part to it.
And then they used it.
Was it always keyboards there?
Or was it guitars?
Yeah.
Or horns?
Yeah.
Yeah, did you ever think
it was going to be horns?
It's a horn patch.
Right.
On the synthesizer.
Exactly.
Right, right.
You know, horn patch 1A.
Because the version
Michael J. Fox plays
at the talent show auditions.
It's our demo.
It is?
It's our demo.
It's the demo with
like him squealing over it, right?
With him squealing all over it. Right, wow. But the demo with him squealing over it, right? With him squealing all over it.
Right.
Wow.
But that's the guitar playing the key part, right?
It was our demo before we had the...
It was a rough demo with, you know, I don't know, ill-mixed and all that.
That's the way they wanted it.
Well, I thought it was just too damn loud.
So that must have been because you were approached a year or so before to maybe write
something for ghostbusters and it passed on that right what was it about this that let me take this
one for you because huey gets fined like ten thousand dollars every time he talks about oh
really because because of your court agreement with ray parker jr right you're not you're not
supposed to talk about i am going to tell you a story that I heard from...
From just someone, some other source.
No, from...
No, I can tell you who I heard it from,
from the director of the film.
Ivan Reitman?
Ivan Reitman.
Ivan Reitman told me that...
And this is true. Ivan Reitman told me that, and this is true,
Ivan Reitman told me this story because, of course,
I like Huey and I asked him about it.
He said that he wanted Huey to write a song for the movie.
And Huey said, you know, I just did,
but I don't want to be like the movie anthem guy.
You know, thank you, but I'm going to pass.
So he called Ray Parker Jr. and told him,
do a song like Huey Lewis.
And Ray did indeed do a song like Huey Lewis.
And that's what happened.
And it's produced exactly like Huey Lewis and the News record and has the same melody as, what is it?
I Want a New Drug?
It's basically I Want a New Drug.
You can't say anything.
He has no comment.
When the podcast is over, I'll tell you the whole long story.
Okay, thank you.
It's unbelievable.
Oh, man.
It's an unbelievable Hollywood story.
Wow.
And your man, Ivan Reitman, has a lot to do with it.
Wow.
And so this is a year or so later, and you're like, this one sounds right.
Let's do Power of Love.
Let's do Back to the Future.
And it's your first number one hit, right?
Isn't it?
Oh, no, no, no. Not your first number one.
The thing Power Love did for us because of the film.
I think it was your first number one.
It might have been.
Yeah.
It might have been.
But what was interesting is that-
I got scared.
I backed off of it when he kind of furrowed his brow at me.
But okay.
I think it was.
But what was interesting about, you know, we'd had a bunch of hits beforehand. And actually, Power Love was released nine weeks before the film came out.
Right.
So when the film came out, the song was number one already, which was smart.
That was a great marketing.
And Zemeckis to this day says, best send-off a film ever got.
You know, number one song, boom, here's the film, you you know and all this stuff but but uh yeah i was
so excited for it because you were my favorite band and then to have this movie coming out with
one of my favorite actors uh and then the movie is so good it is it is my favorite movie of all
time i think and he wakes up at the beginning of the movie with a Huey Lewis in the news poster. Yes. And that song is so good and everything about it.
And back in time, it's just. And then Huey's in it, which was unexpected.
Yeah, it was such a big deal. I felt the same way.
It just was like such a magical time at the theater for me.
And the film keeps getting bigger. Yes.
getting bigger if anything maybe the greatest moment we ever had on my show was when uh on that date uh that uh we had the uh it was a part of it 2015 or seven uh 30 years after yes uh yeah yeah
it just so happened we were doing our show in new york and i thought about it like a year beforehand. And I, I called Michael J. Fox and I
said, will you do this in a year? And he was like, yeah, okay, I'll do it. And he's a great guy.
Great guy. One of the great guys. And, uh, and it's funny because people figured it out maybe
like a couple of months before we did what we did on our show. And everyone started calling him,
asking him to do it do something
and he said i i can't do it i'm already committed to something and and so what was the bit i didn't
see it i remember this they re-entered the uh you should check it out they okay it's i don't want to
ruin the whole thing okay okay i'll just check it out everyone check it but it's the exact days
was it october 15th 2015 yes yes i believe so, I believe so, yeah. Amazing. Yeah, man.
It was a fun deal.
Yeah, such a, I mean, such an amazing moment.
You know, the nice thing about Power Love is now with the film,
it was our first international hit.
Oh, wow.
So we now could tour.
We went to Australia and Japan and all over, you know, Europe,
even the, you know, Eastern Germany and all that sort of stuff.
And without Power of Love, that might not have been possible.
Is it crazy to go to Japan and the audience is singing along with Power of Love?
Yeah.
Perfect song, perfect movie.
Must have been an incredible time in Huey Lewis and the News.
You're sweet.
It's really weird because, yeah, that was a perfect song,
perfect time, perfect movie,
kind of the perfect year in American history.
Yeah, 1985.
The 49ers are part of Huey's world,
and they're like the greatest team with the best quarterback.
You write Slammin' for them.
Yeah, we did.
We,
the worst thing we did with that was slamming is we called it slamming.
Right.
Cause I couldn't have a title for it.
You know, it was just an instrumental.
We wanted an instrumental for the band.
We did.
And what we should have called it was 49er highlights.
Oh, for many years, that was my radio morning radio show theme song.
Like that's how I'd open the
show every day with that I talk over
that song on K-Rock
was that you could do that before
K-Rock you just take an
NFL's or any song
you wanted and use it as your well
on yeah I mean
yeah
Huey we you also have
acted a lot we saw your penis in the movie Short Cuts.
Did you ever ask them to change the title of the movie?
Giant dick cuts.
Enormous cuts.
I don't know.
I would have lobbied Robert Altman for something like that.
Dick cuts.
I tell you, it was a great experience.
The best part about that whole thing was that Bob Altman know bob altman was a music fan he really was a real music fan and so and that's
how i got the part and uh uh so we we filmed our bit in at the kern river in bakersfield
and he was in santa monica he said look come with said, great. So I rode shotgun as he drove.
All the way up there?
For like three hours to Kern River.
And he gave me a complete tutorial, acting tutorial.
Wow.
He told me the whole thing.
Really?
When he wasn't bashing Woody Allen.
Wow.
What did he not like about Woody Allen?
The usual stuff?
Well, no, the thing that happened with Suri Pag.
Why, What happened?
Something happened.
Yeah.
What was the tutorial?
Like what lessons did he give you about acting?
Well, he said, first of all, you know, you need to find your character.
So in order to do that, you read.
He told me, read the script every day.
And he explained how you have to know everybody's lines because you
have to react this is the hardest part of acting is reacting it's not it's not saying your lines
it's understood it's when someone says your father's dead you know they're going to say it
but you got it but you got to react like you don't know they're going to say it so learn everybody's
lines read the script and create a story for for your character with as much research as you can until you know your character cold.
Just take all kinds of suggestions, listen to everybody, read the script until you know your character cold.
When you know your character cold, don't listen to anybody.
That's great.
Is that good advice, Adam?
I have no idea.
Is that similar to what you do?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't recognize any of this.
I wouldn't know. Nope. What would any of this. I wouldn't know.
Nope.
What would Adam know about any of this?
No clue.
What do you think, Adam?
Seriously.
Well, Robert Altman was one of the great directors, for sure.
So anything he has to say is great.
But you got to work with Lily Tomlin and Buck Henry.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Buck Henry and I were,
and Fred Ward
were together for three days.
And Buck Henry was fantastic, man.
What a great guy.
Did you keep up with him?
He just passed away,
you know,
like a week ago.
A little bit.
He sent me harmonica stuff.
We actually stayed
a little bit in touch.
He was a fantastic guy. That was a really amazing experience for all the talent there, you know. And Altman was amazing in a scene. You know, we'd have like, there'd be 10 or 12 people in a scene.
Yeah. And he'd show up, and in 10 minutes, he'd block that scene.
And the camera, and boom, and he'd say, you do this, and you do this.
And he would just direct these people like unbelievable.
His blocking was unbelievable.
And then he lavalier-miked everybody, and he didn't want, you know, line, line, line.
He didn't want that.
A lot of overlapping dialogue.
Yeah, he wanted you to, and he'd give you business.
He'd put his arm around and say, look, you're the fisherman.
You know about the fishing and the flies, okay?
And these guys want to know what kind of flies we're going to be using.
He says, now, Fred, you're driving the car.
So you're worried about where the gas station's going to be,
and you've got this, that, and blah, blah, blah.
And they'd say, Buck, you're worried about, he gives these things.
Now, you guys just do that.
And then while he shoots and holding up beyond us,
you hear us and you're looking at Lily Tomlin
driving up in a long thing.
And then, but I mean, his stuff was so dense
and so complex and so wonderful.
There's never been a guy like that.
It actually makes sense with what he was telling you
about acting because his, it seemed,
just from what I've heard, it sounds like with actors
he gets them all
ready and, like you said, like tells you
everything and then just kind of lets you go.
That's it. And just shoots it. And he didn't really
care that you hit the lines perfectly
or any of that stuff. He put his arm around
you right before every take
and he'd tell you where you're coming from
and where you're going. And then
he'd say, go. Wow.
That's great.
How fun.
What a fun man.
I don't know if I like the putting the arms around me thing.
They'd probably be like, look, Robert, every take we're going to do this.
And you guys, speaking of fishing, you guys go fishing together, right?
Yeah, we do.
Yeah.
A lot.
We love to fish.
Huey got me into fly fishing.
And we talked about it during a commercial break.
I said, what do you do up in Montana? He said, well, I play a little bit of golf. I hunt some ducks and
I go fly fishing. And I said, that is something I would love to try. And he said, come up. And I
said, all right. Are you serious? He said, yeah. And so I brought I went up with my brother and
my buddy Cleto, my cousin Sal.. Like eight of us invaded his house.
And we do it a couple times a year.
Wow.
Are you guys good at it?
Huey's great at it.
I'm average.
Jimmy Kimmel's a very good fisherman.
Wow.
A lot of people, you know, fishing, fly fishing's a funny thing.
It's very romantic.
Everybody wants to, oh, I'd like to do.
And some people just want to say, yep, I did it.
Yeah.
But it's a process. It's hard. And some of us really wants it. Oh, I'd like to do. And some people just want to say, yep, I did it. Yeah. But it's a process. It's hard. And, and, and, and some of us really love it. And, and Jimmy
loves it. And he's really a good fan. I do. I love it. Do you, or can you take your phone out there
and check it during it? No, there is no, no cell service on the river, which is one of the things
I love about it. Right. Right. Yeah. Um, you know, it's a perfect thing for show business people,
right? Cause you're out there all by yourself with mother nature yeah what could be better yeah
let's uh let's talk about the new record and kind of what's been going on with you oh okay
so the new uh huey lewis in the news new album weather which uh is uh i can only imagine a play
on the sports album uh the title of it, Weather being... Right, exactly.
Right.
That's such a good guess, and you're correct.
I am correct.
I took a stab.
And you're so stupid, so it's weird.
I'm really stupid, so it's hard for me
to put the pieces together sometimes,
but I got that one.
It connected.
That's great.
You guys really need to work on your rapport.
Right, thank you.
You're right.
So tell us what's been going on with you a few years back.
I don't know how to pronounce the disease.
Meniere's.
Meniere's.
Oh, okay.
So how exactly did that come about?
Because I was surprised to learn, I will set this up a little bit, that you could not hear in one ear since the—
Since I'm 33.
So late 80s?
30, 36 years, 30, 35 years ago.
Right.
So just at a certain point one ear, which ear?
My right ear.
Just you could not hear.
I woke up, it was stuffed, and I couldn't—it felt like you went swimming in a swimming pool and couldn't clear your ear, and I couldn't hear out of it.
I went to the ENT guy, this famous ENT guy, and he looked at me and said, get used to it.
I said, what?
He says, get used to it.
It happens.
They say it happens when you go to the beach in a suit.
It causes.
Something about the sea air.
See?
Sorry, I just wanted to ask, you had these giant tours to do and records to record, but you were able to.
It was just one year, so you were able to do all of that?
Well, I went to the ENT guy.
He says, get used to it.
I said, well, geez, I'm a musician.
I need to sing.
And, you know, it's my livelihood.
And he said, hey, Brian Wilson had one ear.
Jimi Hendrix had one ear.
He says, I have one ear, and I'm in a barbershop quartet.
Wow.
Were they any good?
Did you hear?
What, the barbershop quartet?
I'm not sure.
They all had one ear.
A little out of tune.
Yeah.
And you know, Hitler only had one ball.
That's true.
So that's, you know, people, you adjust.
People can accomplish all sorts of things.
So, but just.
And look how well he did.
Yeah, I mean.
So then describe what happened with the Meniere's thing.
Well, then I existed on one ear.
Meniere's is mainly associated with vertigo.
Vertigo is the major symptom.
And it's completely debilitating.
When you get it, you got to just lie down and throw up, and you're just nauseous.
It's awful.
So I had a few bouts of those, but I haven't had vertigo for a long time.
But two years ago, two years and a month, January 27, 2018, I lost my right ear before a gig.
And now it's left ear before a gig. And now it's, although, I mean, left ear before a gig.
And now it's fluctuating.
But it's mostly bad, you know, and I can't hear music.
Because music is a lot harder to listen to than speech because it occurs in all frequencies.
Even one note has harmonics and overtones.
So it distorts for me.
It sounds like cacophony.
So you can't even listen to music.
I haven't listened to music in two years.
Oh, my God.
I can't enjoy music.
So Cardi B, you don't know who Cardi B is.
I know the name.
You know the name.
Okay, well, that's good.
I haven't heard the music, though.
I know the name.
You know the name.
Okay, well, that's good.
I haven't heard the music, though.
So it became impossible for you to sing during concerts.
I haven't worked in since that day, January 27th. Did you play that gig?
I played that gig.
It was a nightmare.
I couldn't hear pitch.
It was all over the place.
Oh, man.
It was the worst night of my life.
And the new record, Weather, though, it was recorded right before this happened?
For the vocals?
For the last 10 years before this happened.
Oh, okay.
Her Love Is Killing Me, which is our first single, was written by Chris and I 20 years ago.
Wow.
We couldn't somehow get it right.
We tried it.
It didn't work.
Then we tried it live. It didn't work. We tried it live.
It didn't work.
Then we tried using a drum machine for half of the song and then busting out with a band.
That didn't work.
We let it dorm.
We left it alone.
And then we resurrected it like three years ago.
And it just came together.
With a different horn part, I think I read.
I think what's interesting about that one is that it's a very simple song, just a blues song, basically.
And the simplest tunes are the hardest ones to actually get right because it's all about the feel and the tempo and that sort of stuff, not the chords.
And the chords don't help you.
So, you know, and maybe that's it.
Let's hear a little bit of it because it is, it just came out last Friday.
Oh, play the whole thing.
Oh, great.
I mean, it is classic.
And there's an all-star video, too, that you guys premiered on the show.
That's right.
Just a classic Huey Lewis and the News record. Can't eat, I can't sleep
I'm so nervous I can't keep the beat
Can't run, I can't hide
In a dance you can't keep us satisfied
Drifting and drifting like a ship at sea
Her life is killing me
Burning hot, a big flame
Pilled like a shotgun on a.22 frame
She's got soul, she's got a lot of heart
Does that make the best plans fall apart?
And I ain't but half the man I used to be.
Her life is killing me.
Up and on like a flashing light.
First thing in the morning and the last thing at night.
Twisting and turning like a hurricane.
Her love is driving me insane
My head hurts, my body aches
I quit drinking but I got the shakes
So sore I can hardly walk
And I just mumble when I try to talk
Stumbling and tumbling like a bumblebee.
Her life is killing me.
Her life is killing me.
So good.
So amazing.
I mean, if that came out in the 80s on sports,
that would be another hit single, don't you think?
Sure.
And would you guys agree that there are a few things more uncomfortable than sitting
there and listening to a song with the person who recorded the song?
I was enjoying it because you were sort of, you were like mouthing the words and you were
He was trying to make it easier for us.
It was a little uncomfortable for me too.
I was like, I can't look up.
Huey Lewis is actually right here.
I cannot look up and see him.
I think While We're Young is another high point.
Yeah, I love that song.
I really love that song.
I agree.
I love that song.
It felt like new ground for you guys.
I agree.
It's really terrific.
In my day, that was a hit.
It's a dreamy song.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
It's a great record.
It's seven tracks because those were the only tracks that you were able to.
Well, no, Kanye only had seven on his
yeah exactly so you're just
following in the footsteps
and it's out now
it's amazing and it's unfortunate
do you think you will ever
be able to do a show
again we don't know
I mean that's my hope
and I do fluctuate
and I call it 1 to 10.
If 10 was what I was before this happened, the highest I've been is a 6.
And when I'm a 6, I'm pretty good.
I'm a 3 today.
When I'm a 6, I'm pretty good.
And with my hearing aids, life is good.
Great.
Life is almost the same.
I can have conversations and all that stuff.
And I think I can probably
sing again, but I haven't been able to be a six long enough. I've tried to book a rehearsal. I'm
six. Oh, good. Let's book a rehearsal and try. And then my hearing crashes. That's happened
three times already. So. And if you're a six in Montana, you're a three out here in Los Angeles. So, um, well we, we, I look, I would love, I've, I've never been
able to see you live. I, uh, I, you know, when I was 14, I really wanted to go when you were out
here in Los Angeles, my mom would not let me go see a concert. And so I made my friend who was
going buy me a t-shirt and, and he brought back the t-shirt and I wore it. Yeah. But, uh, I re you
know, I really hope that you, that you can do it at some point.
I mean, you've given the world.
Do it for Scott.
Do it for me.
Yeah.
You've given the world so much.
I hope so, too.
I hope so, too.
I saw you guys when I was 12.
I made my mom get tickets.
You guys were playing the Paso Robles County Fair.
I remember it.
You remember that gig?
Yeah, let's see.
We played it twice.
Did we have a percussionist with us? Man, I don't remember Fair. I remember it. You remember that gig? Yeah, let's see. We played it twice. Did we have a percussionist with us?
Man, I don't remember,
but I remember you opened with Power of Love
because it was the number one song.
We opened with Power of Love?
You opened with Power of Love.
Are you sure about that?
Do you think...
Well, that's when we got there.
You guys were playing Power of Love.
Okay.
And it was during the day.
So I remember there was dry ice or smoke on stage and it was during the day.
And we, are you sure you didn't get there for the last song?
You guys were late.
Maybe we got there late.
Did we have an opening act?
Was there an opening act?
I wasn't there in time for that because we were driving from Santa Cruz.
Did we do an intermission and then do another show?
Another show?
Because we played Pastor Robles twice.
You played it twice in the same day?
No, no.
Two times.
Oh, two times.
Did they have corn dogs?
There were corn dogs.
There were corn dogs.
How do you know all these details, Hughie?
You remember everyone's name.
No, I don't.
You've mentioned all these names of people that I would like,
if I had worked with them a year ago, I would not be able to.
I was thinking the same thing.
Yeah, the guy that adjusted the mic at We Are the World.
The woman, yeah, well, that guy's famous,
but the woman who owned Video
West. Yes. How do you know?
Because I used to have a
memory, and I remember all those things.
What's Don from Ohio's
last name?
Ah, there we go.
You think I win that one.
I know it, too. I know it really
well, but I don't. Reynolds. Isn't it sad
that he knows everything about you, and you don't know Don's last name?
Sorry, Don.
Horrible.
He's probably changed it to Lewis.
Don, I apologize.
Don's probably seen maybe more shows than anybody.
Really?
A hundred, maybe?
Wow.
Jimmy, what does Huey Lewis mean to you?
Well, a couple of things.
I mean, first of all,? Well, a couple of things.
I mean, first of all, he's a good friend of mine.
He is my, when it comes to fly fishing, which is probably my favorite thing to do, I consider him to be my mentor.
And it's hard to explain, but there's a certain kind of fly fishing called dry fly fishing that Huey- You're wearing a condom?
fly fishing called dry fly fishing that Huey.
You're wearing a condom?
Rightly teaches to his students, in this case, being me and my brother and my cousin.
And it's almost snobby.
It's a bit of snobbery that I now insist on from anyone I go fly fishing with.
And we, the guides are always confused.
And I think they, some part of them admires us because it's harder to catch the fish that way.
And it's not necessarily ideal for all situations.
But it's more fun because you get to see it. But it's more fun.
You get to see it happen.
What does that mean?
What is dry fly fishing?
The fly floats on top of the water.
Oh, I see.
And the fish comes to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you get to see it.
If you're underneath the water, oh, got one. Sure not as there's no show so you get to see the fish like kind of poke his
head up and look at it and decide whether he's going to eat it and then you see him first you
see him when you see him he's he's decided he's going to go after it yeah they come up in a hurry
wow and then you get him then you have the fish, and the fish is like, oh, fuck you.
Right?
Doesn't that usually happen? Yeah, is there a moment right there where he feels betrayed?
That is exactly what the fish is saying.
Like, imagine you sat down to have an ear of corn, and then you started eating the corn,
and suddenly there was a hook in the corn, and you went through the roof of your home.
It would suck.
It would suck.
Probably.
But then the giant who lured you with the corn then kind of rubs you a little bit and goes,
Oh, I'm sorry, buddy here.
Let me just take a quick picture with you.
And then I'm going to release you back into your living room.
He drops you into your house.
You could have just asked.
I would have taken the picture with you.
But in terms of him not as a friend.
But on top of that, you know, they say,
don't never meet your idols.
And I've been very fortunate,
especially with Huey in that regard.
But I think what his music
from my youth represents is my youth.
And this time in your life,
when you are a sponge,
really, you absorb things
and you live the rest of your life
loving those things that you loved when you're a teenager above all things, you know, and you learn so much and you take so much in.
And for me, it reminds me of like having my first car and like driving around with my friends, that freedom and and playing the music that we wanted to hear rather than what my dad or mom were playing in the car,
if we even had a freaking radio in our car.
And that's really what I think it represents to me.
That's amazing.
Jimmy, so many other questions I could ask you about non-Huey Lewis related things.
I did want to fit one in.
I was watching the Oscars and I saw those commercials you did with the Eyewitness News team.
Yeah, they're local. You weren't actually
in the same room with them, were you? Yes, we were.
You were? You didn't green screen
that? No. There was a green screen
behind us, which maybe made it look a little bit
artificial. I couldn't believe it.
We weren't together. Amazing.
It's remarkable. They came
all the way from Burbank. Oh, they came to you.
Oh, okay. I understand.
Why do we got that settled? I wanted to know. I, okay. I understand. All right. We got that settled.
I just, I wanted to know.
I was watching going, there's no way that Jimmy Dane's to be in the same room as.
One of the news anchors is Michelle Toosey and Mark Brown is the other.
And they're very nice people.
Dallas Raines is the other guy.
He's a super nice guy.
But Michelle Toosey for Christmas every year sends me this giant sausage called a Gropper
Wurst that her husband's family makes
back in like wisconsin or something and it is just a huge tube of meat that i get from
our friendly local news anchor every christmas time let's deal with that dallas rains with his
like kind of like point flat hand fist thing that he does when he goes the weather tonight
dallas rains is very tan he's very tan because, you know what?
He's out in the weather.
He's not just
reporting the weather.
He's out in it.
He's absorbing it.
Absorbing the weather.
I love Dallas Raines.
He's really
a genuinely great guy.
And yeah,
I love that kind of stuff.
I don't know.
I love that.
He's been switching it up lately
where he's been doing
like a different kind of thing.
A different kind of
fist point motion.
Yeah.
Does he have to keep it fresh
for himself, do you think? I think he have to keep it fresh for himself,
do you think?
I think he keeps it fresh not just for himself,
but for all of Los Angeles.
He also has the segment,
Keeping It Fresh with Dallas Ramsey.
That's right.
Well, guys, I want to thank you so much
for being on the show.
This is an incredible treat.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
I feel like we made this plan in like 2012.
A year and a half ago.
Yeah, it was a long time ago.
Well, we've been wanting to do this
episode. We were going to do it without you,
Huey, with just the three of us.
Might have been better, actually.
I don't think so. But we were just going to talk
about how much we liked your music
and then Jimmy said, oh, you know what?
I think Huey can actually come to this.
It's taken long enough
that in the interim,
Jimmy has given me a harp for my birthday last year.
Wow.
So it's already really very special to me.
But I'm hoping that maybe you'll sign it for me as well, Huey.
Wow.
And feel the weight on that thing, Huey.
It's a nice one.
Is that a special 20, I think?
That's a Daniker.
Daniker redid that one.
Yeah.
Oh, that is a Daniker redid thing.
You sent it to him.
No, I didn't send it to him.
He does special rebuilds of kind of classic harmonicas.
And you got this from Daniker, huh?
Yeah.
Interesting.
It's really nice.
I'm happy to sign it.
There.
Yeah.
All right.
So Huey is signing this.
Arguably could have been done after the show.
Yeah, but this is how we're...
No, it needed to be done right.
That's right.
This is how we're taking it out of you guys.
Adam, anything else you want to say?
Just thank you for coming on, you guys.
This is a very special episode to have you on.
All right, this is the end of the episode.
We're going to take it out with a little of If This Is It.
Thanks to Jimmy Kimmel.
Thanks to Huey Lewis.
And we sincerely hope
that you have found
what you are looking for.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. I've been phoning
at night and morning
I heard you say
tell him I'm not home