UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - EP 221 The Laura Eisenhower Interview - Lies About a Hidden Past & Present Day Deceptions

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

Stephen Diener sits down with Laura Eisenhower, the great granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, as she reveals what she believes to be the long hidden truths behind the alien agenda and how her great grandfather may have played a part in it all. There's a good chance that you have never heard anything like this before...If you would like to register for Laura's upcoming Webinar after you hear this episode, then follow the link below! https://portaltoascension.org/laura-eisenhower-the-hidden-timeline-of-venus-eisenhower/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, welcome back into UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast for episode number 221. And it is a doozy today. I know I said that before, and quite frankly, whenever I say it, it lives up to the hype. And this one is that, as I bring on the great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower, President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

We're bringing on here today, Laura Eisenhower. And she is very well-known within UFO community circles, as she travels the world speaking about her knowledge on the situation, on the topic, given her family history there. And, you know, one of the things I was really excited to talk to her about because it took us a long time to schedule this because of her busy schedule. So I was very grateful that she made the time to do this and to be on UAP so I can present this to you. And it is one of those things where, honestly, I'm not even really going to give a lot of backstory here. I just want to present the interview to you. There's a lot of things in here that you may have heard before, that you may not have heard before.

Of course, I wanted to ask her about the supposed long, you know, told tale of President Eisenhower meeting with the Grays and or the Nordics. And so we got a lot more than we bargained for here on the show because we went into everything, everything that, I mean, things that I never thought of before about asking, things that I had never considered. I'm, again, I'm just going to play it for you, and you can hear exactly what I am referring to as Laura Eisenhower was so gracious with her time to give her entire basically life experience and knowledge on the situation of what she says is really going on and has been going on behind the scenes. You may agree with it. You may not agree with it. You may feel enlightened and say, wow, I didn't know any of this, or you may feel like that it doesn't make sense to you. And that's the beauty of this show, is that it's always been decided for yourself. But no matter what, I'm very excited that I was able to have Laura Eisenhower here on the show

and present her side of the story to you here on UAP. So, of course, we start off with the questions surrounding President Eisenhower's supposed meeting with the Greys and the Nordics, whether or not a treaty was signed. And we go from there on what's really kind of turned into an entire backstory, you, secret hidden history with the galaxy. I guess I'll just put it that way. So here it is myself and Laura Eisenhower. You make of it what you will right now on UAP.

Enjoy. Well, welcome in here to UAP. Happy to bring in today. Someone that I've been talking about on the show, someone that I've been looking forward to speaking to it for a while. And that is Laura Eisenhower. Laura, thanks so much for coming on here to UAP. We've been looking forward to this,

so I appreciate you making time to come on the show today. Well, thank you for inviting me. Good to be here. Yeah, absolutely. So I know, you know, listen, I'm not going to beat around the bush. Obviously, when people see you at different conferences or webinars or they see you on social media, they know, of course, that you are the great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower. So when they think about that and they think about all the things that have gone on since his presidency, I'd like to start there if that's okay. Sure.

And one of the things that I really kind of dug into when I started this show five years ago now, one of the things that really intrigued me at the start of it was the story of President Eisenhower and the so-called meeting with the Greys. I found that very fascinating. I've done some work digging into that over time, speaking of different authors and filmmakers who have done work on it. But now I get to ask you about it. So when it comes to that story, there's so much lore. there's so much legend to it.

What can you tell us about that story and the facts that you know from your family? Well, I don't really know facts from my family. It wasn't something we really talked about. I think everything had to skip a generation. These kind of topics were very hush, hush back then. And it wasn't that Eisenhower didn't want to disclose it. It was because of the threats.

The hidden covert kind of takeover of the United States. People hear about Roswell, Project Paperclip, Admiral Bird's expedition in 1947, big year, 1947, an expedition that, you know, pretty much failed. But we don't really hear about what happened in 1952 under Truman, or the fact that in 1947 there was some sort of agreement or treaty that Truman might have signed. Captain Mark Richards talks about this. Carrie Cassidy has written some books about these conversations with him. He also shares about him wanting to take out the Grays and Draco at the Dulce Underground Base in 1954 the same year that he's blamed for signing treaties. Dan Cooper, also a very credible person who talks about

Eisenhower ordering an invasion on Dulce Underground Base. So when it comes to this treaty, you know, I had an open mind to it for a long time. There are some sound bites that have been circulating saying that I validate the story. I think they definitely cut it up and made it look like that because I've never flat out said, I agree or I think it happened. I wasn't there. If I were to have said anything, I would think that I would say allegedly. But I guess, yeah, years ago when I first became a public person, I was bringing this topic to light.

And I was open-minded to the fact that that might have taken place. Well, over the course of the last six to ten years, I've been shown a very, very, very different history. And I don't just go by what I hear. I investigate, right? And I look into the people that are making the claims. And one of the things that really stands out is, you know, there have been a lot of attempts to get information, Freedom of Information Act, people digging really deep into, you know, whistleblower testimony. And it's come up that a lot of what was actually shared, there's no credible witnesses. Gerald Light did not say that there was, is a treaty that was signed. And when you look at all the different individuals that have spoken

about it and you actually ask the questions, well, where did they really get it? Were they there? Is there a document? What sort of factual information do they have to back it up? There really isn't any, but I think we know in this field is very, very hard to get any factual information. But let me just share really quick. Dan Cooper, who I've been talking to recently, is a physicist. He knows, you know, admirals and generals, and he served in a 20-and-back. So a lot of his commanding officers, Nazi commanding officers, gave him this information, or they were bragging about it. He's really got firsthand information.

And he's a physicist on the level of, you know, discovering the 6th to 8th force, you know, Tesla-type technology. And he was imprisoned by the three-letter organizations for 18 years against his will. So, you know, these kind of credible people I've been looking into. William Cooper, who was one of the main sources of information for people, who wrote Beyond a Pale Horse, he even admitted later on that what he was given was disinformation, that he never believed that documents that were going to be placed in front of him would be potentially fabricated.

And later on, he actually admitted that he had been lied to and he had been used. And he started to expose the fact that this technology was not what we thought. It was connected to the Nazis in Germany. And when he really began to expose that he felt that he was used and lied to, he got killed pretty soon after. I'm not saying it's directly related. I don't want to make those assumptions. But he even came clean.

So I see a lot of people quoting William Cooper and the rest of the, the information that a person is providing or falling back on for information about this is really not very credible. So this whole dentist appointment thing, right? First of all, any story you hear about this, you're never going to see a consistency. Everybody is sharing something different. 1954, first the Nordic. Some people say that particular date in February, 1954, I think the 20th of February was the meeting with the grace. So it's not consistent. The amount of time he was gone is not consistent. The fact that he did have an ongoing dental issue is something to think about. And also how long it takes to travel from the ranch he was at all the way to Edward Air Force Base. I think that one

was Edwards Air Force Base. Anyway, the amount of time that he was not accounted for is not a very long amount of time. And it takes a lot to go all the way somewhere. There would be some sort of trail of maybe a Secret Service driver. There would be some kind of deathbed confessions you would think. And instead, we find people changing the story or sharing more in their deathbed confessions. Like Anonymous that Richard Dolan interviewed said that Eisenhower was furious and wanted to invade Area 51. But he was shut down because, you know, basically it's like a government unto itself. So the Dulce invasion he ordered in 1954, later on, threatening to invade Area 51, his relationship with Val Thor. This doesn't sound like a guy that would have signed treaties.

And if he did, he definitely wasn't aligning with them. And after 1952, we supposedly surrendered to the interplanetary corporate conglomerate Nazi Draco Alliance. So when we think of projects like Montauk, Philadelphia experiment, that happened, you know, previous and just the chain of events that led to this sort of takeover. And MK. Ultra, social engineering, indoctrination, chemtrails, geoengineering. It's pretty obvious that we didn't really win the war. And I really feel that a lot is a front and false narratives that have been engineered in order to hide what is actually truly happening. So I'll kind of leave that.

Yeah. Yeah, wow. So obviously, there's a lot to pick up on there. I guess first off, you mentioned like four or five things that I want to follow up on because there were things that had in my mind that you went ahead and mentioned. First off being just so everyone's clear, you're saying that there is, in your knowledge, there's no definitive proof that you can say, just to start off on the basic there, that you can say that the meeting itself took place between President Eisenhower and the Greys or the Nordics. Can we say that it did or can we say that it maybe did or probably didn't? I mean, what was just on that basic knowledge? Well, everybody's kind of coming at it from this angle, guilty before being innocent, right?

Instead of innocent until proven guilty. There is no proof. You know, you can't just have, I mean, we could spin any story, write any kind of letter, have it passed down a couple generations and then all of a sudden say, hey, this is fact, this happened. You know, a lot of people picked up some stories and William Cooper was saying these were planted. this is disinformation. And when we look at the history of a lot of what took place in the 1950s and MJ12 and these three-letter organizations and the fact that the Roswell crash happened,

they knew that people were getting abducted, they knew that we were going to be talking about it. They're not really able to cover this up. But what they wanted to do was control it and manage it so that when disclosure happens, we're pointing the finger over here or over there. And I really feel for people that, you know, share these stories and believe them because we just want to get to the truth. And it seems like, wow, okay, that explains it.

That might explain something. But in actual fact, we've been dealing with ETs and abductions for thousands of years to varying degrees. And in 1929 was when the original Griata Treaty supposedly happened. So basically, Val Thor supposedly, this is from Dan Cooper, and I gave a little bit of bio about him, not related to William Cooper, who wrote Beyond a Pale Horse. he talks about when we reach warp one in 1929 we bought bases on the moon and Mars there were already deals being made and humans being taken in exchange in the 1930s and 40s Winston Churchill, Crowley, Alistair Crowley and Hitler supposedly formed agreements and

there's a strong connection between the Nazis and the Draco. So the Second World War wasn't really won. Yes, Germany surrendered, but the Nazi Draco aspect of it, interplanetary corporate conglomerate, because basically the Nazis took over all the corporations and basically not just paperclip, but 1952 surrender instrument, basically began to infiltrate all the institutions of power and influence,

educational, medical, Hollywood, you name it. So it's kind of disturbing to think we didn't win the war. And it's not something we need to fear. We just need to understand that the war has become a war on consciousness and that they've been trying to steer the disclosure narratives to keep using that as a way to cause us to consent to a false solution. So something happened perhaps in 1954. but the anomalies that were reported around that time were pretty minimal.

It had nothing to do with the craft showing up. It had to do with preexisting craft that were already there. What has been well documented is the 1952 flyover over the Capitol. The ships hovered for like six hours. Six hours is a lot longer than Eisenhower running to a base, signing a treaty with coming back and going to church the next morning. And he's a very humble man, you know, he was raised. by Mennonite farmers, or at least that's the descendants, Anabaptist, pacifist, very,

um, not wealthy at all, uh, living close to the earth, Bible, scripture, very strict. Um, not a luminaughty or elitist kind of bloodline or family as much as people might think that. You know, he's not the kind of guy this is going to go off to some base and sign something and not come back a little frazzled, probably maybe not going to church and recovering from whatever the heck that was. You know, he was privy to things. I think he really knew about, the Roswell incident and the alien

presence but I feel that he was advised by Val Thor this is what I've been told by people like Dan Cooper and a lot of insiders and when I say a lot I'm talking about three or four

so I don't want to like say a lot and have people think I'm talking about 10 or 12 so to me three is a lot for this topic but Val Thor helped advise him helped warn us and helped us to understand that the first contact was in 1929 with the Nordics. They have a base called New Berlin, or they helped create this underground city in Antarctica.

And, you know, there's just a lot of history there. So Val Thor helped Eisenhower set up countermeasures, supposedly, like the White House, the Earth Alliance, and Ikes Force, and helped him to appeal to the guardians to put an outer barrier around the planet. So all of this is just something to think about. And I guess what I'm trying to say is there's a lot more evidence about what happened in 1952, what happened in 1947. And events that have taken place since have been a lot harder to unwrap without tracing it back to those events. Or else we just think something just began in 1954 when obviously these events,

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I mean, to put in the pieces, right? Because it does feel like to me whenever that story is told or investigated that, there's probably more to it, right? It's not just as pretty much what you said. You know, it wouldn't be just as simple as, hey, let's have this meeting and then possibly. sign something or just, you know, kind of try to understand who each other are. And if there was a meeting, whether or not something was signed at the meeting,

but then also that understanding of, okay, this actually went a lot deeper than some type of possible meeting. This went into him having a knowledge that something was going on, that there's this, you know, these other life forms here, and that there was some type of nefarious agenda as they teamed up with the Nazis. And he was trying to counteract that. That's something that a lot of people don't talk about. I know. And it's very frustrating. And a lot of these other videos go viral. And it's okay, you know, if people are talking about it to ponder the possibility. But when they staged it as fact, it's, it's, there's no real evidence. You can't state something as fact. It's like saying, I don't know where you were for the last couple hours. There were a bunch of murders

about three hours away. You must have done it because we don't know where you were. you know, where's the evidence where there's got to be something and they're like, oh, no, they don't leave any evidence. They cover all this up, but yet they won't believe other stories. And they'll say, well, where's your evidence? Right. So it's very fractured and it's very much a mess when I look at it. Because there's double standards here. They'll use GROC for something and I use it. And I say, well, look what GROC says. They're like, well, GROC's not reliable. But then I see the same people posting things from GROC as fact. And, you know, people want to believe what they want to believe because it's so much to invest in something and then all of a sudden see a different reality. And I've had to do that.

We all have to do that. And it's not about, you know, I'm not trying to fix anybody to anything. I think all of this needs to be put out on the table. And then we work together to try and figure out what's going on, not to point blame as much as figuring out how to navigate the rest of this. Because a lot of individuals back in that era were being threatened for us, always thrown out of the window. I mean, people were, you couldn't disclose this sort of stuff. And a lot of whistleblower. We're not going to be given the top, top secret. We're dealing with compartmentalism, and you'll know on a need-to-know basis.

And they knew that some people were going to be blowing the whistle. They're not going to give them the biggest secrets. They're not going to tell them what they're engineering. They're not going to just say that to their employees or people that they've recruited. They keep that way, way up there in the compartments. So, you know, Dan Cooper never signed an NDA. He doesn't have immunities. You know, he's had to skirt death many times.

but this is something he said that Eisenhower set up, which is called Ikes Force. And the reason he wanted to, you know, have a voice about it. And actually, I more talked to him into having a voice about it. He's not looking for, you know, he was told by the Guardians to study Eisenhower and that administration and everything about it and to connect it with the resources and the people that he knew to begin to connect these dots. And then he said that he was saved by Ike's Force. and basically Ikes Force, which Eisenhower set up, are vigilantes.

They don't work together as a group because it's more dangerous to be shut down as a group. Vigilantes work with temporal management to correct timelines. So if somebody like Dan's going to be taken out, they will have somebody from Ikes Force prevent that from happening. He said that Ike's Force is constantly trying to keep me alive and a lot of others. It doesn't mean they're always successful. We know there's a lot of casualties. but the whole idea of Ikes Force was where they're trying to keep the truth from coming out

and they keep trying to silence individuals or threaten their life or even smear them. This group is trying to mitigate that and same with the white hats. And he said, Dan Cooper said that Eisenhower set up the white hats also. So, you know, he's being blamed yet he's actually the person that's counteracting. And it doesn't make any sense with the chronology that that particular time in our history would be the starting point of abductions. There were abductions reported in 1947, you know, and my lab started to become a thing after 1950 to 1953, military abductions, reversed engineer crafts, black helicopters being the ones that were abducting, but creating a screen

kind of memory or event where it looked like it was actually aliens and real, you know, aliens piloting UFOs. It's not to say that that doesn't happen, but the thing is with Deep State is they want to create an imitation version in order to overlay on top of what's already happening. So it's not about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's about understanding how difficult it is

to discern, okay, is that an actual legit event or was that engineered? Is that military? Same with the weather. Was that a real hurricane or was that harp, geoengineering? Most of the time, there's something that is organic happening that they want to manage and they end up intervening themselves into the situation. But they

do recruit a lot of talented and gifted people into their MyLab sort of programs. And then even Max Spears talked about a lot of what people think are experiences on other planets are actually virtual realities. But that could also be the training ground before they actually go off planet. So it's just like we've been given the biggest cluster of insanity, just try and sort out and sift through as humans. But I think all of it matters.

We have to lay it all out on the table, but we have to watch out before we state something as historical fact. Because it really starts to become historical defamation on Eisenhower, who is the last person on Earth that would have signed us over. And if he did have anything to do with anything, it might have been for diplomacy, it might have been, because another person who is an insider background, very profound kind of credentials said that the treaty was originated in

1947 and it got out of control and Eisenhower wanted to make sure they didn't breach the agreement, which kind of makes sense. But from what Dan Cooper saying is that Greta Treaty actually originated in 1929. Other whistleblowers said that it gets renewed every 10 years. So if there was another renewal happening in 1954, it's been said that it wasn't Eisenhower. That's, it was MJ12. They wanted to use him as a cover.

And that's when he got furious. He wanted to invade Area 51 and because he, they weren't reporting to him. After 1952, they signed it into law that MJ12 didn't have to report to the president anymore. Originally, MJ12 did. They became their own sort of, they had their hands on the alien technology and they were operating outside of presidential oversight. Wow. it's no it is it's a lot to take in um it's a lot to try and express so i do my best yeah no no i'd appreciate it because like you said a lot to touch on a lot to follow up on i do want to get

to valiant thor as well because i've always found that subject to be extremely fascinating in you know the history with president eisenhower i've always heard in an aspect of of nixon or truman how do you well i guess i'll just ask you right now so how does president isanauer's history fit in with Vali and Thor because you always hear about how he was kind of like, you know, kept in the Pentagon. They didn't let him do much. He offered his help, but they kept denying his help. So were they able to, according to your knowledge, work closely and get things done together?

Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't hear about Valthor much with Truman. Nixon, Eisenhower, because they're, you know, Nixon being the vice president of Eisenhower. There might have been some kind of Truman connection. But supposedly, yeah, Val's been around for a while. and based on Dan's testimony and what he heard and overheard. Sharing things that just make a lot more sense. So I share it just for people to discern and have an open mind.

Anyway, because the Griata Treaty, 1954 scenario, doesn't make any sense. And the 1954 first contact would have been connected to the dentist appointment. That's usually, I think, the one that people mostly steer. He says that the Nordics, that's all BS. The Nordics didn't come in and try and have us get rid of nuclear. weapons in exchange for helping us, that sounds a lot more like Val Thor. He said that the Nordics and the Draco signed a Muhammad Accord agreement. It's called the Muhammad Accord. And basically, the Nordics would not be intervening at all, trying to help us. Doesn't mean that there aren't

rogue elements. It doesn't mean that there aren't factions of the Galactic Federation that have breached that or somehow those agreements might have been changed. There's a lot to speculate on. I don't think we experienced reality all in the same way anyway. We're multidimensional beings. We experienced reality and dimensions and timelines, you know, differently. But we are getting to the core truth, you know, as a collective, I feel. So Val Thor, if he did come in 1952, Dan says he warned about the Nordics and the Grays, that the Nordics came in 1929.

He explained their alliance with the Nazis, how that kind of shifted. And it solely more was about just. the alliance with the Dracos and the Nordics, yeah, were communicating in various ways, perhaps, but not in this first contact scenario that is described. That is talked about, warning about the Grays also, and then signing with the Grays. So if he warned about the Nordics and the Grays,

and they were all about peace and had a lot of the same intention that we hear the Nordics were holding, then maybe people are confusing the landing of Val around that time with the first contact with the Nordics. But when Eisenhower stepped into office because he inherited all this and because there are a lot of restrictions based in this unconditional surrender instrument in 1952, that basically signed us over to this sort of shadow government being in charge with limited capacity, except for what they told you to do. That's why presidents feel like puppets because they're answering to this other sort of, infrastructure that's been growing of, you know, deep state shadow government and three-letter

organizations. That's why, you know, after Kennedy, you know, we're seeing, you know, groomed presidents. We're seeing Manchurian candidates. We're seeing people in prominent positions that, you know, aren't exactly operating from their own free will or their own better judgment. So Eisenhower was one of the last presidents, Kennedy also and a few others. So Valthor warned about this. Okay, great. So he started to. advise Eisenhower? How do we set up countermeasures? Because what happened in 1952 literally meant that we are going to be further enslaved. All the agendas that are playing out, New World Order, all the things that people have been worried about and fearing. Who is that coming from? Well,

they think, you know, they completely changed the script of the Second World War, and that's a tactic they used to put the blame on Eisenhower. So supposedly Val Thor advised Eisenhower between in 1953 and 57 and helped Eisenhower to set up the things that he set up. And then if he did occupy

the Pentagon in 1957, more on a surface level, it was shut down. Val Thor and his mission was shut down by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the, you know, the shadow government, basically, the three-letter organizations, they didn't let Val move forward

and so the alliance that Val Thor and Eisenhower and Nixon had and their proposal to help humanity was shut down because they feared that they would lose control. So that's the story in Frank Strange's book, but I think it goes a lot deeper. They set up countermeasures, Val Thor, Victor I, and 200 ships stationed all over the country, all over the world are still around.

They didn't leave. It's just they couldn't, help on the level of, hey, we're going to make an announcement and everybody, Val Thor is going to take the stage and we're going to see him, you know, talk to the human race about what he proposes. So what had to go underground because of what was not being allowed on the surface level didn't mean that things weren't still happening. I guess it's the best way to put it. But I question some of these stories too. I know Val Thor and Eisenhower are very close, but I almost think that the whole, and I don't want to discredit Frank Stranges, but something just feels a little bit off.

to say that it didn't happen or he wasn't put on VIP status for three years. It makes sense that Eisenhower didn't shut down the mission and it was shut down by, you know, shadow government. But was the mission really shut down? I mean, and this is where I feel Val Thor played a hand in helping Eisenhower write his final speech about the military industrial complex and the warning and being a knowledgeable and aware citizen. Because what I love about Eisenhower, the government structure, it was about us being the leaders

that we would overthrow the deep state. The minute we get the games that are being played, that's where our liberation and sovereignty comes from. Just like if you're with a narcissist, a deceiver, and a control freak who's playing with your mind, playing with your self-worth, causing you to believe something, scaring you and then coming up with a false solution. Yeah, it's very easy to get entangled, right? But the minute you have a clue, the minute you see things for what they truly are and you cut the cords, you're on a completely different trajectory. And that begins to fall away. It can't feed on you anymore. It can't use your creative energy to battery up these artificial timelines because all of it is falsities to keep a vampiric system alive that requires our energy for it to even exist.

So we have to remember where are the powers that be. They're the powers that stole. And all they can do is take our creative energy and manipulate it into battering up their desire timeline instead of ours. And the minute we wake up to that and we call that back, we absolutely crush it. So we might not get to the bottom of the thing, bottom of things. And that's okay. I'm just doing the best with the enormity of information that I get that I'm trying to sift through and organized until it really begins to make sense. And that's what my presentations do.

It's really, really hard to just come out and share it in the way that I'm doing in an interview. Yeah, right, 100%, which is what I try to do here on the show. So actually, on that note, when we talk about the guardians, I just want to ask that to, Laura, because, you know, You know, people hear a lot of the names, the Guardians, the Draco, all these different things, and how they relate to each other, good versus evil. How would you explain both? For someone who isn't completely familiar with the idea of this, you know, Galactic Alliance, Dracos and the Guardians, how would you explain the relationship between those and how it plays into society?

Yeah, and I apologize, everyone, if I'm not explaining things very well. It's not the easiest topic. No, no, no. Yeah. Well, the Draco's are a pretty ancient race. And when you think about going back to just our ancient galactic history, I mean, the Draco's reptilians, yeah, they've invaded a lot of systems. We have the Lyron wars, the Orion wars, and exploded planets like Tiamod, and then we drop down into this lower harmonic universe, and then Maldek explosion and see these in the asteroid belts. So the nervous system of the planet holds a lot of trauma from previous cycles.

And the Draco are in charge of or rule quite a number of planets and galaxies. I'm not good with these numbers and I'm not good with like the nitty gritty details because I didn't serve on the SSPs. I wasn't given that kind of information. I go by, you know, just a lot of, you know, research and just memories, just, you know, we all are old souls, ancient souls that have experienced a lot. And Lisa Renee, EnergeticSynthesis.com, Ascension Glossary is a really, really great source. So we got like this negative alien agenda, right?

And it's connected to the Aneranaki and the Black Sons are like the name, you know, the ones that are connected to the Nazis are called the Black Sons. And you got the Sons of Belial and the Sons of Belial are connected to the Ananaki as well. So I do think that the Draco, the Black Suns, you know, they're really responsible for really taking out the ASEANs and the Cathars and really working hard at separating us from the Christophia. Right. So these beings manipulated the planetary grid network. They put reversal grid technology in place. in order to make it very, very difficult for humans to embody their full capacity on a DNA level. So you got these two control agendas, the Draco, Reptillion, Black Sun agenda that aligned with the Nazis and the Sons of Belial, which are also another control group. And they kind of intersect, right?

They're not warring with each other, I think, for a time that they were, and now they're a lot more. just aligned. It's hard to say. I don't know how these things might change an altar. But the Dragon Moth, Draco, Anonaki, so there's factions that are Draco aligned. I think it's a very, very mixed bag when it comes to the Ananaki.

But, you know, this has been going on for a while. Then you got this like reptilian hierarchy. And, you know, they're supposedly originating from the Alpha Draconis. and their hierarchical structure would be, you know, the ones that are at the top are overseeing the earth-based subterranean reptilians. And that's why people that have served in the SSP sometimes are like, I met the white Draco, you know, like the big guns right up there. And yeah, so there's been a lot of, you know, galactic wars.

The Orion group and the Orion Wars. yeah, that's where a lot of destruction happened and things got really, really polarized. So everything has kind of stepped down into this physical density. The trauma that was already very much alive in the nervous system of the planet after we fell from higher dimensional Earth into this one, you know, we experienced the seven root races, the five cloister races coming in. The whole idea is that we are going to rebuild our DNA, our 12th strand, over the course of time. And that, you know, this was seated as an ascension planet for that purpose so that we could recover from these galactic wars, planetary explosions, and walk our way

back home to source. You know, being in this free will universe, though, we have the choice. So when these deceptive controller agendas come into the picture, we as humans that have the vulnerability of amnesia and unconscious trauma from events that we don't remember and we're not taught about, they like to leverage that. So they've created a whole system that is rigged to keep us from awakening so that they can stay in charge. So, you know, from the minute we're born, you know, we don't remember our past lives or the galactic elements of our nature. And it's very easy for us to get completely entangled

in the system. And a lot of us awakening are trying to pull ourselves out to whatever capacity. Some have been a lot more free of it for a while. It doesn't matter. There's no contest here. But anyway, lots of alien machinery. AI is a part of it. So supposedly in 1920s, they let the deep state kind of be in charge and take over, right? And then you got your bloodlines and the fact that they have reptilian DNA as well. So it's a lot less the ETs. It's a lot more the humans that have the reverse engineer technology and the technology that they obtained.

But in a lot of these places like Montauk and a lot of these underground bases and projects and programs and block ops kind of, people do see the ETs. They do see Draco. They do see insecto. They come across, you know, aliens, negative alien agendas. But it's not like so prevalent. It seems like they're working alongside to assist in, you know, this, you know, capture.

But it's a lot more the human agenda about controlling us with the allies being the Draco. They're in control of so many things that, you know, they're not so. bent on this earth, but they, they're kind of helping other people who are bent on control succeed. And that's kind of the way I'm making sense out of it. I don't know. No, I mean, it's the oldest reptilian race in the universe. So they are easily able to, you know, maintain control. But this earth is very different, you know, the sophionic aspect of it, the original grids and

the divine mother and the mother earth aspect. I mean, that's a whole other thing. So anyway, go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say that it's all incredible to consider. And I think it's a subject that a lot of people don't mention when it comes to, you know, how this all might connect. So I guess someone listening to this and hearing, you know, kind of considering this, you know, hidden past, maybe for the first time. They're not too familiar with it, like 100%. And they might think to themselves, well, my gosh, how does she know all this?

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And they do cooperate with the Luciferian Belials, right? Because they want to enjoy the spoils of war together, but at a time they were sort of competing. Basically, they want to control the stargates on the planet, keep things in reversal so that we as humans digress. We don't advance. So when you see the symbology of the pentagram in Satanism,

it's the fifth element going into the ground with the points of the star up here. It looks like a devil, right? But the Venus transits are creating corrections, the sophionic corrections. The orbit of Venus is drawing a perfect pentagram to flip it back up again. So when they put the reversal grid technology in place,

were targeting the ether element, which is connected to the dodecahedron platonic solid. And in targeting that element, it made it very difficult for us to heal, to purify, to overcome toxicity, to overcome disease, to lengthen our lives because it affected our telomeres, you know, the ether element is connected to the mother. It's connected to mitochondrial DNA. The other elementals are connected to our nucleic acids as well, our DNA. So if you look at the points of the pentagram, Earth, air, fire, water, ether, and you look at the zodiac, which is ruled by elements, and you look at our DNA, the nucleic acids of our DNA. When you look at nature and the elements and the way the planetary grid network is, it's all completely connected.

So if you put reversal grid technology in, you're going to get a dumb down human that's born into a system that even the Earth beneath its feet is operating in reversal because of these dark technologies. So a lot of grid workers and guardian groups and the guardians when we're talking about the guardians have come in to do the grid work, which means correcting the reversal and the distortion. On top of the fact that the Venus transits are a part of that correction. So how do I know? Because I've been targeted. I'm like trying to figure out what the heck. How did I end up in this family?

What is my relationship with Eisenhower? What does this all mean? And being like, okay, I'm open to being shown. and all the synchronicities, all the people that I've met, my relationship with Lisa Renee, who is the person behind EnergeticSynthesis.com and the Ascension Glossary and just deep diving. I mean, even as a kid, I was getting massive downloads. I was so overwhelmed.

I was very, very ungrounded. I'm like, like, ADD, like on steroids, right? When I was in school, you can still tell that I have, yeah, I'm not fully I'd like to be in a functional, communicative way. But I just was constantly processing, constantly processing. And so a lot of the information I ran into later helped to connect dots with the things that were coming through when I was a child. Because, you know, I was definitely being prepared for what we're in now. But I was pre-targeted.

I was told that I was a guide to Eisenhower's administration from the Galactic Realms. that the guardians, and it's written in a book too that was given to me, the guardians brought me in to incarnate into this family in order to help protect the timeline from being completely overtaken by, you know, these dark agendas. And you're doing it. Hundreds of us are doing it. There's a whole migration of us coming in at different points in different times, right?

To get to the truth. It doesn't mean we always have it, but we have the passion. We're wired to get to the bottom of things and work together in unity consciousness, right? You can tell somebody like you has that in your heart and other people that are listening and other people that are out there.

And you can tell when somebody doesn't and they're just definitely creating more problems than solution. So anyway, so that information was intercepted when Eisenhower was briefed that a dissent would come in And that's why I was pre-targeted before I was born. And I had some kind of attention on me most of my life that I couldn't explain. I couldn't talk to anybody about it. But I also understood what they were trying to prevent.

They wanted to steer me off course. They wanted to just mess with my life. And this group is called the aviary. And some of the disclosure people that talk about disclosure-related topics that are public are connected to this group. And they're the disinformation folks. Not all of them. And I don't want to smear anybody.

and I've already mentioned their names publicly. But, you know, they're responsible for a lot of what William Cooper was first exposing in his book and then changed his tune. Some of them have died out and some are new characters in the game. But anyway, I knew that when I was a child. I'm like, something's going on. You know, I was having extraordinary experiences, but I felt this targeting on me. Then I went to a Clairvoyne Institute and they helped explain it all. And they explained everything that I knew was.

happening and I was like whoa I'm like I'm going to sign up for some courses I'm like they actually there's some legit psychics here because who would know I walked I was living in California single parenting my twins and um there was this psychic fair going on and they say hey come on in and get a reading so I was like okay why not and uh the minute I walked in the door the person that was in charge of the uh little fair there um said Eisenhower just walked in the door And everybody was just sort of like looking around, had no idea like what was going on. And I went up to her after a couple hours because it was many hours. I had a few readings too.

And some of the readings that I got were the weaponry that was on me, the attention that was on me. And anyway, I went up to the lady at the end of it. And I said, oh, I'm related to Eisenhower. She's like, yeah, he walked right through the door with you. He's your guide. I was like, wow. And then I came to understand that I was his guide. you know, in that, in his era. So I came in with a really, really strong curiosity. You know,

we all have amnesia, right? We might have more recollection when we're, you know, very, very young, or that recollection might come in later, depending, or it might be a mix of both. But, you know, there's nothing special about me or my abilities. It's just a mission and an agreement. Because the thing is with the guardian races and groups, they don't have anything that we don't have. They're helping us to remember what has been dormant. And when we look at the dark agendas, it's not just, you know, abduction. It's not just doing dark and evil things and experimentations or working dark technology and underground bases and creating hybridization programs and doing hybridization.

It's the manipulation of the human mind through social engineering, through rewriting history, through all these different tactics to lead us down a course that is not a trajectory we need to go down. So the guardians are helping us to remember who we are, our creative power, our ability to, you know, overcome all of this. So I think it's a mixed bag of humans being abducted, military abductions, things that are trying to cover up the truth and come up with a similar storyline to take us into a different direction, they can twist it just enough to throw us off. Because yes, a lot of those things have happened, but was it Eisenhower? No. And when we look at it, like it might be

Eisenhower, we fail to see all the things that he actually did set up and all the countermeasures he put in place and why it makes zero sense and why the overwhelming amount of testimony that actually points to what truly happened and what William Cooper later validated is something that we should, you know, be paying a lot more attention to, I feel. And so that's part of my role is to help to unearth, you know, these truths. But, you know, they try and stop me and whack me and put plants in my path and really disrupt my nervous system and make it really, really hard to be able to do this. I get death threats all the time. I get weird time travelers coming in and being like, you know, I just have to block and delete.

I've learned that because I'd be sometimes curious. Like, what do they have to say? Because I'm just, I need more information. And I could just see how they would just pull me in. And so it's been like nonstop since I was a little kid. Wow. And time travelers, how? Because some people hear that, they think, you know, what they see in movies, right?

If you're in a Delorean or if you're in a machine or, you know, whatever, you have some type of instrument, how does something like that work if someone is? Yeah, good question. Yeah. And that might be where people start to fall off like, okay, now she's just talking crazy. And again, I can only share. I'm curious. I'm very curious. I can only share me.

experience. I can only share what I've communicated. I think a really good source would be Andrew Bishago, who was a childhood participant in Project Pegasus. They traveled back in time to the Gettysburg Address to, you know, events in our history. Stuart Swerdlo talked about it as well. People that have sat in the Montauk chair have experienced this and projecting yourself into certain times. But there are technologies that can literally transport you into into the past and I believe into the future. And so that's what Ike's Force is all about, is working with temporal management to correct some of the timeline

manipulations that are out to compromise humanity. And a lot of SRA survivors, satanic ritual abuse survivors, they use their abilities to create such a strong intent to create events, to use their creative imagination to create events that they wanted to create in order to harm us. So it's not just technology. It's using the gifts and abilities of children and sell, you know, a lot of these bloodlines sell their children into all of this and the trafficking and even off planet, you know, type operations. They just sell their children right into it. So I wasn't in those projects. I was targeted outside of the family because they knew because of what I told you about with the guardians that, you know, I would be coming in and a lot of us would be coming in. It's not just me. obviously. But in the context of, you know, Eisenhower, you know, that's, that's the particular station I've been assigned. Like, all right, you got to get this area here because this is an

important one. And God knows why. I was like, okay. Sure. Yeah, I was going to say, do you feel like just sounded kind of like a supernatural aspect when we talked about guardians and guides? Do you feel like that President Eisenhower speaks through you sometimes? Do you feel like he's trying to reveal truth through you? Definitely, definitely. He was appearing to me as a child, and I'm like, he was in his military, you know, uniform. I remember looking at books on the bookshelf and being like, wait a second. Because it's not like my mom sat me down.

Oh, by the way, you're related to, you know, a former general of the Second World War and president that served for eight years or anything, really. I mean, I just went to family gatherings and I'm kind of like hearing things and you grow into it eventually because you become a part of the conversation. But yeah, I was looking on bookshelves

and I was like, that's the one that's appearing to me. And then as a kid, I was processing all this, like, what is going on? And like realizing, oh, my God, he's famous and what did he, I hope, blah, you know, to understand this man more, why I was born here and what this community.

communication is about. And it wasn't like I could write it down. It wasn't like I was channeling, but it was, it was like I was being prepared. And I was shown through a viewfinder timelines, you know, timeline that we don't want, timeline that is our divine birthright, one that, you know, comes directly from us, our trust in ourselves, our remembrance of who we truly are and what we're capable of, and how this other timeline is all based in manipulation and harvesting and siphoning our creative energy. I was getting a clue of that. So when I was navigating, life at a young age, I would always kind of see the difference between, you know, people that were very much themselves being true to themselves versus people that were really getting wrapped up

in what they wanted to engineer you to become, the labels we've been thrown, also the diagnoses from the medical industry that really keep us from understanding, you know, who we are underneath it all. Obviously, you know, labels aren't bad. It can align with things that matter to us, but it doesn't take, it should never take over where you become the label. Because if something were to change, you know, are you going to have a voice and say, hey, I don't agree with this? That's part of the social engineering. And then same thing with disease.

You know, if you're depressed or angry and you're not getting to the root of it and you're just medicating it to make the difficult sensation or pain go away, you're not going to understand what it's really trying to tell you. So I remember advocating for that at a young age. I was always crying about the state of the world. My mom was like, oh, you should go on some medication. and I'm like, no, I need to understand it, you know. And so I've always just been, you know, digging really deep.

And you asked about Eisenhower, though. What was your question again? I think you answered it just in the sense of, you know, do you feel like he's guiding you to tell different truths? Absolutely. Yeah. So when I was first understanding the Griata Treaty, I'm going to have to move so I can plug in my computer.

When I was first answering about the Griata treat, when I was first understanding and hearing about it, you know, I was totally open-minded to it. And I thought it was a huge breakthrough, like, oh, yeah, disclosure. Yeah, we need this information. And I shared about it when I first came public that, yeah, there's a strong possibility. I was exposing the Mars recruitment, though, in my targeting and what my experiences were. But then that kept coming back because I was realizing, too, this is really traveling.

And people are really, we really, I really need to understand this. Then it became more of a priority. And I was meeting, you know, the right people. They were finding me or the synchronicities pulled us together somehow. And I could feel him and his presence, helping me to see, you know, wait, that's just, just keep digging, you know, keep being curious. Lisa Renee, yeah, and others, you know, just really help me as well, get to the bottom of things. but I could feel when I would communicate something that might have been off, I could feel his energy kind of swoop in and help me and help, you know, kind of guide me.

Like, like, you're not done yet. You know, keep like over here, over here. And I remember when I met Dan Cooper, I had this rush and I don't know if it came from, like, this is the man you want to listen to. You know, it was like, oh, okay, because I hear things from a lot of people. And I'm here pretty neutral. I'm not that bias. I'm not here to protect a family name.

I'm way too more bellies to care about that. You know, I'm just here for truth. But yeah, I mean, I would feel him. I would dream about him. And I would, yeah, and it would get really emotional for me. And, yeah, so we work really closely. I know it. And he, yeah, just helps me to communicate at times.

And at times I'm sure he's like, like, ugh, like I drive him nuts. You know, I've fallen down my own, you know, downward spirals and I've had my own issues. and sometimes the enormity of the pressure and just the responsibility, you know, no other family members tackling this particular aspect of it all can be too much. And when I'm bombarded all the time with attack and these stories and that he starved German POWs because one guy wrote a book about it and none of the evidence holds truth to this. Even the German historians and the government themselves said this book is completely inaccurate. They had summits. They had, you know, it's just, and Eisenhower inspired the Marshall

plan to rebuild Germany, and he changed the policies that were really harsh after a million Germans surrendered. So I guess the task has been to correct what they're trying to rewrite and not be biased, to have an open mind, to dig deep, to find the evidence, to find credible individuals and present what I find out. Even if it's what I I don't like. That was the agreement from the get-go. But I found out more and more like, wow, what a remarkable man. Because I, you know, was coming from the place of skepticism. I was coming from a place of maybe that did happen. And if so, I will speak on it. I'm not going to hide if that did happen. But as I dug deeper, I found, you know, overwhelming evidence that

all these smear campaigns and targets on him are absolutely false. So I have felt him sort of help take care of me through all of this, help keep me strong, help my heart, you know, like, because I'm very sensitive, you know, kind of handle everything. And yeah, I can't wait, you know, when I get to the other side to just give him a huge hugs. I'm just like, I just can't wait to see. I'm like, oh my God, what the hell was that? Wow. No, it's been incredible, Laura, and I really appreciate you spending all this time to talk about it, to have this conversation. Like you said, you know, it's not one that's had a lot. So I'm excited that we've been able to kind of like go down this path and discuss all these possibilities and, you know, how this all might work, you know.

But before we go, I do want to ask you just how everything relates to what we talked about here today, how it relates in your view to what we are seeing today, play out in front of us on the news in Congress when it comes to whistleblowers, congressional testimony, congressmen and women getting involved, president, vice. president talking about it and putting out files and things like that. When you see all this going down, you see this outward disclosure push from all these different angles. What is your view on that as you see all these things happening? Well, I'm glad, you know, it's, these concepts are being put out there. And I just hope people stretch their viewpoint, their, their panoramic view so that they can see how many people have been talking about this, how many events happen multiple times a year of people sharing their disclosures, their experiences, whether they're abductees, whether they're contactees, whether they recognize that they were my lab, military abducted, served in SSP

researchers, intuit people that are very, you know, psychic and tuned in. I mean, everybody needs to be a part of this conversation. I'm just glad that the topics are getting out there. It's not so just, you know, something to laugh at or dismiss. But I always am wary about limited narratives, false narratives, things that cover up other things that we need to know. And I would just hope eventually that somebody like me might be taken seriously on a larger level, being related to Eisenhower, you know, doesn't mean that I have credentials, but the kind of path that I've lived, the kind of experiences that I've had, the things that I've had to overcome, the targeting, the people I've met, the clients that I've worked with, the stories that I've heard, whistleblower testimony

from insiders that had access to things that other whistleblowers didn't have. And I don't even want to use the term whistleblower anymore. But, you know, we need everything out on the table. And there's some things that they don't want out on the table. And there's some that they will allow. So we have to be the ones that say that's great and all, and that's hugely helpful. And it's all so incredibly important. But what about this? And if what about this is shut down and silenced, We have to keep pushing for more exposure. Not necessarily to say it's absolute truth, but to say this is worthy of being a part of the conversation

because of this evidence, because of this person, because of this survivor, and because of this deathbed confession, which you're gonna get none of that for the Grata Treaty in 1954 connected with Eisenhower. But yet, I have a feeling that they have prepared and engineered disclosure to look right at him and people will just go for it.

Because people don't require the deeper evidence, if it's been passed around enough and if it comes from legitimate sources. And that's why I kind of took the bait a little bit. And it's nothing to, you know, worry about if you did, it's no measure of intelligence. It's just, we got to just open up the dialogue a little bit further, you know. And so I like that you're talking about it. And I'm glad you had me on because, you know, there's more to the picture than just that. And so, but I am, you know, just keeping my eye on all of it.

I continue to do events. I have a webinar coming up, September 6th. So if everybody's kind of like, oh, it's too much what I just shared, this will really help you walk through it. You can have a replay. If you share the link in the description, that'll be great. And then people can join me. And it's two hours. You'll have replays. And it gives you a chance to know where to find me so that, you know, you can ask questions and I can give you more information on all these topics, even after the webinar. I'm very accessible in that way, or I try to be. But yeah, I'm looking forward to what's to come.

I think it's a huge breakthrough that all this is happening. I feel much better about this administration being the administration connected to these times. Not that I'm happy about everything that's going on in regards to it. But, yeah, I'm just going to continue doing what I do, sharing what I share. And yeah, and I know, yeah, why else would I've been incarnated into this family? I mean, and be shown what I've been shown and have been targeted. there must have been a reason because I would get to the bottom of things.

Or they just wanted to use me on a planet somewhere else and just for whatever reason. I don't think I have any special abilities for that purpose. But I do have a big mouth and I do dig deep and I am kind of a detective. Well, this has been awesome, Laura. And I know if people do want to follow, I'll definitely share that link you're talking about for your webinar. But if people want to keep up with you, how can they do that website, social media? How can they find you? So cosmic gaya.org is my website.

And yeah, if you can just share that webinar link, that'd be great. You should be able to find most of my social media on the homepage of cosmicgaya.org. I'll give you that link. But you can find me under Laura Eisenhower. Most of my social media has a blue checkmark just because there's a lot of imposter accounts. So I'm on Instagram. I'm on X. I'm on Facebook.

I'm on telegram. So, yeah, I hope you guys, you know, follow. and it's a lot, I know, for an interview covering all these kind of topics, but hopefully, yeah, you'll check out my substack, Lauraisenhower.com. I have multiple articles on all these topics. Great. Now, Laura, this is fascinating. I'm really glad we got to do this finally trying to, you know, work things out. I know you're super busy, and I'm glad that we finally got to work out of schedule and get you on here and have this discussion.

And I'd love to have you back on in the future if you're open to it, bring you back on whenever you have time. continue this. I would love that. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you audience for tuning in and much love. I'll see you again soon. Awesome. Thanks. Laura Eisenhower here on UAP. Thank you again to Laura for all of that. Truly sincerely appreciate her coming on to the show. That is something that I was trying to pull off for well at least in conversation over the past four months her and I going back and forth to try to pick out a date to do this and we know we finally did like I mentioned there during the interview. But she's been a on my short list to have here on UAP for the past few years.

So it was really my pleasure to have her on here and finally be able to have that conversation. Just lay it all out, you know. And that's the thing about UAP. There might be things in there that you heard. Of course, I get it, and so does Laura. There might be things in that you heard that you thought were maybe too far out there for you, right? If she's talking about the Nazi-Drako alliance or when the treaty may have been signed, was there a treaty in 1929 with the Nordics?

I thought that was really interesting, actually. I've never heard that theory before. Was it in 1947, you know, in the year of Roswell? Eisenhower. Was he working with Vali and Thor? I mean, those are things that actually really kind of parked my ears and interested me that if I get to have her on again in the future, I'd like to bring those things up more in detail. We just didn't have enough time to really get into it all.

And, you know, I thought it was interesting to hear about her own spiritual connection. She says that she has with her great-grandfather and President Dwight D. Hower and how she feels like, you know, he's there guiding her through things. So all those things to me were, even if they sound a little bit further out there, were definitely compelling to me. And then maybe some of the other things, even like Laura said, when we start talking about time travel or these temporal management people, Ike's vigilantes, Ike's force, as she mentioned, that was something I never heard of before. So there was a lot of different topics in here, whether it was, you know, on that end or some of the other subjects that she brought up that I had

never heard before. And I like when that happens, even though it's something different, it may be different to me, maybe different to you, but it opens up other conversations, it opens up other ideas. And even though it may sound like something that's, you know, maybe turns you off at some point or you say, okay, this is too much for me. Hopefully that's not the case, because that's what we do here on UAP. I always try to have the conversations, right? That's my motto. Have the conversations and you decide for yourself. So if you feel like maybe it was too much or too far out there with some of the theories or some of the things that Laura was presenting, then by all means, that's up to you. If it resonated with you and you felt like, oh, wow,

this actually really adds up and it makes a lot of sense, then awesome. I'm glad that that happened. I just want to put this out there and have the conversations, have the discussions. Laura said the same thing. So however you took to it, I was excited to have Laura on here on the show and present this side of the conversation, present this side of her story, her family story, and what she believes to be true, what she says is really going on behind the scenes and has been going on for a very long time. Again, if nothing else,

fascinating and compelling to consider all these different aspects and how these hidden forces over the decades might be playing into this. Yeah. Honestly, I'm thinking about, I don't know if I'll do it or hopefully try to follow up with Laura again in the future,

but I might try to even do an episode in the future where I do a deep dive on some of the things that she brought up, just some of the subjects that she brought up where I put in my notes here where maybe I can go back and do a deep dive into some of these things that we were discussing just on my own time and maybe present it that way. But she did mention her webinar, and I have that link

coming up on September 6th. If you want to take part in that, by all means, take a look at the link. It's in the description there for the podcast. Also, if you're on YouTube, it's in the YouTube description. So you'll see the webinar link if you want to take part that and see, you know, the time, the date, well, we said the date September 6th on Sunday, or that is a Sunday.

And if you'd like to take part, then you can just check it out. Click the link and you'll see it. She gave, you know, her website and everything with Cosmic Gaia gaia, cosmic gaya.com. So you can check it out and follow along. And again, really, really eyebrow raising, compelling, attention catching, whatever you want to say, whatever type of movie review headline you want to put on it. That's what it was for me. And honestly, I will say this, too.

I didn't expect the beginning of the conversation to go the way it did. I thought that she was of the mindset, which is why I always like to talk to people about things, that she was of the mindset that the meeting absolutely happened. And she kind of left it open to interpretation, right? Did the meeting happen or didn't it? She's very adamant that President Eisenhower would not have signed a treaty like the story has gone over the years. You know, because, of course, that treaty says that you can experiment in some humans

if we get your technology. And so she's very adamant about that, that that did not happen, that she could never see him doing something like that, you know, based off of her own connection to him, of course. So, yeah, a lot to take in for sure. Maybe if you want to go back and listen again and take notes of your own, feel free. But either way, thank you again to Laura for putting out her story, putting out her truth with all this.

and I'm glad I can present it here today on UAP. Really, really fascinating stuff. And coming up here on UAP, talking about fascinating, I can't wait to bring it back on. Plan for next week is our buddy, Anthony Williams. And this is the first time we've spoken to him in a few months, actually, since episode 200. So that'll be really cool to catch up with him.

We've been speaking kind of a little bit, you know, just on our own conversations behind the scenes, and there's a lot that he wants to get off his chest, And there's a lot that we can discuss, especially considering the recent government drops with all the UFO files, all the different talk going on. Will there be a speech from the president or not? Anthony has a lot of thoughts on the current climate right now of disclosure and the push for disclosure and the things going on in the community as we speak. So looking forward to bringing back Anthony Williams, of course, always exclusive that he comes here on the show. He doesn't appear anywhere else.

And we're always so happy to have him on here on UAP. So we plan on doing that next week. I'm also working on a project right now that I'm pretty excited about for a new episode. And you know me. Sometimes it turns into a two-parter, even a three-parter. And that's what's happening here. I decided to start to dig into the history of UFO lore and reports in China. I feel like that's a part of the world that isn't brought up a lot with this conversation.

But there is a lot of reports out of China, even as secretive as they are. are with their government over the years, over the decades, really, or even over the centuries, if you want to go back that far, there's actually a lot of different reports and some really wild stuff that kind of doesn't get spoken about very much at all or if at all out of China. So I'm working on putting and kind of compiling all this information together. And when it's up happening, I come across a ton of stuff. I'm like, oh, this is cool. Oh, wow, I didn't know that.

And before I know it, I have 10 pages of notes, and we have a multi-part series episode. So I will try to finish up that one at some point and get that most likely two-parter out about the secret, kind of like hidden history of UFO lore in China. It's crazy stuff. And I don't mean like, you know, cuckoo crazy. I mean like, wow, like this stuff is unbelievable. So a lot coming up here on UAP. Also in contact with Eric Burleson's office as they are. getting ready to come back from recess in Congress in the next, what, I guess maybe a few weeks.

So look forward to trying to get Congressman Eric Burleson back on the show here, too, hopefully in the next month or so. So a lot to look forward to a lot planning here on UAPs. So be sure to stick around and follow along wherever you get your podcast. Be sure you are subscribed to the show on any of the podcasting platforms. Just search UAP, UAP podcast, put it in there. Also on YouTube. Same thing.

Subscribe, download, wherever you get your podcasts. And don't miss any of the stuff because, It's fast and furious, not the movie, not Vin Diesel, but the information and the episodes and the interviews, there's so much happening. And, you know, I'm always trying to do my best to keep up on everything with you and for you. So follow along and do all that and follow on social media. At UA Podcast 850, you know it. And if you don't know it and you're not following, well, there you go. At UA Podcast 850 on social media, especially Twitter.

Follow along there where I do a lot of stuff. Now, all that said, for the final time, thank you, Laura. Eisenhower for doing that and I do hope to have her back on again in the future which I look forward to to and following up on some of these things because we probably could have spoken for three hours but that'll do for today no three hour episode today. It's Stephen Deiner here saying thank you all again for everything for all the continued support. Couldn't do it without you. So until next time it's Stephen Deiner here saying be well. Thanks so much. Talk again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast.

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