UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - Labor Day Weekend Special - Forgotten Alien Abductions and Encounters

Episode Date: August 31, 2025

For this special, we reminisce about some forgotten abductions and alien encounters that are pretty hard to deny. One which was witnessed in NYC by multiple people, and then a first hand account from a soldier who fought on the battlefield against a UFO! These are wild...Enjoy!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So I'll get right to it. This was actually part one. It's kind of backwards, kind of Star Wars-ish, a prequel, if you will, to the greatest hits episode that I put out on Friday. That was actually part two and a part two series. And this episode here was part one that led into

the episode that came out on Friday. If that makes sense. Again, so, a prequel, if you will. Either way, I hope you enjoy this. Bonus content here. Labor Day special of UAP. It's Stephen Deiner back this week upcoming with some new interviews right here

on UAP that I mentioned with Roderick Castle. Looking forward to you hearing that. But until then, enjoy this bonus content. Labor Day bonus right here on UAP. Thanks. Welcome in to episode 42 of UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast. So excited for today. Stephen Deiner right here, Karen Curtis over there.

Karen, how are you? I'm well. Thank you very much. Good. And I really am. I hate to exaggerate, but I really am excited for this today because there's so much going on. It seems like before we get into our subjects here today,

which is going to be high-profile close encounters and abductions, because these stories are really, really something else that we're going to get into. They were actually witnessed many times. Right. And we're going to give you the reason why we chose that for today. But before we do, there's really big news in the UAP, UFO community that we might actually get some clarity, some truth coming out here soon. Some validation?

Oh, my gosh. Could you imagine? Yeah. Well, that's why we started the podcast because we had validation. Right. From the government. Right. No, you're right.

The whole genesis of this was... We figured it was okay for Stephen to unveil that he's been like squirling away all this information for years and years, but not telling anyone about it because he didn't want to appear crazy. That's right. Isn't that? And it's true. That's always been the stigma. But now, since Congress came out last year, almost a year later, Congress has added again,

which is one of the reasons why we're excited here today to see what's going to come with this. These congressional hearings are going to take place next week, I believe, on Monday or Tuesday. But it's really something that we could actually get maybe, maybe, I don't want to get my hopes up, some clarity, some validation, some vindication through these hearings the first time in 50 years that Congress is going to have these open hearings and actually ask honest questions to Pentagon officials and all these people and really talk about this in a serious way on a big stage. Who's testifying? Well, they're going to have some, I know for right now they're going to have some officials from the Pentagon. who are going to be there in testifying about, you know, the Nimitz video, which kind of started the whole push with Tom DeLong and that whole group there, Lou Elizondo and those guys there who do great work

and have got us to this point of really trying to have disclosure. It's the closest I felt to actual vindication and disclosure in my lifetime. Wow. So I'm hoping that we get something from these congressional hearings next week. That'll be so exciting. Of course, we'll bring it to you on one of our future episodes. But for now, you're ready for the factoid? I am ready.

So we're getting into the meat of the episode here today. But yes, factoid first. Please, Karen. I just, this is so cool in terms of what we're able to do. This is what a black hole, get ready, sounds like. No way. Yes. So this is the sonification of Perseus, indigestion from my breakfast.

It's the sound waves that astronomers previously identified. And then they extracted them and made them audible for the first time. How scary is that? It's unbelievable. So it's like they turned it in the sound waves into music. Yeah. One of our future episodes will be music and sound waves and how they actually could possibly create crop circles. But they do create beautiful patterns in like stones and stuff.

This is unbelievable. I have a feeling. Spoiler alert. You're going to be hearing about this again in a future episode because we do have that one stashed away. about sound and a lot of good things with sound. That's incredible. Isn't it? It's creepy.

It's kind of eye-opening. Otherworldly. It makes you feel like, you know, there really is something out there. Yes. When you hear something like that, and you know that a black hole is essentially creating that sound by the waves that are being captured. Amazing. It sounded like a haunted house.

It did, right? Yes. Very scary. That's wild. Well, there you go. Man. All right. So I'm getting from, I had chills.

I'm like trying to like recover from that. Oh, no. There it is again. All right. We're going to store that one away. Again, you might hear that in a future episode. That's amazing, Karen. Thank you.

So speaking of getting deep, we have gotten deep over the past couple of weeks. Oh, yeah. We've been talking about the meaning of life. Oh, my gosh. Mysteries of the universe and all these good things. The big picture. You know, all that good stuff. So we thought, you know what?

Why not bring it back down a bit and go over some hard? horrifying abduction and alien encounter stories instead. Let's lighten it up a little bit because honestly, Karen, who doesn't love a good old-fashioned mutilation? Absolutely. You got to have one of those every few episodes. And then we got people here that have been irradiated or something and their body weight dropped in half and they have somewhat of. It sounds like Ebola. We're lightning the mood.

Yes. Yeah, right. That's real light stuff. Oh, my gosh. But yeah, these stories, all kiddie aside, are really. something else. And just to let you know, it is a two-parter. Yeah. We, as we were making this episode, we don't intentionally, if you find two-part episodes annoying, I apologize. I really don't know. I don't think so. I don't think you do. I mean, the response has been, you know, pretty good on

a lot of these. And we appreciate that. We appreciate all the new listeners who are coming every week. It's overwhelming, really to see this. California. California has been great to us. The UK. The UK, Illinois, Florida has been great to us, Australia. It's, I mean, to look at the numbers of where we're going internationally around the country, thank you to everybody who's been listening. It's fantastic. So hopefully you enjoy the two-part episodes because, again, we don't do that intentionally.

It's just that as we kind of go down the rabbit hole here preparing these things, we realize, wow, this is a lot. We should probably split this up. So this is a two-part episode, just a heads-up. But the first one that we're going to get into here is about, Linda Napolitiano. Now, before we get into her, I want to just let you know. And I think it's important to kind of get the backstory on where this came from today.

Because we had someone say to us just last week, I mean, literally said, hey, you know what? How come all of these crazy stories about encounters and abductions? They always happen in remote areas. No one's around to see it. Yeah, but a previous episode, we had the actual governor of Arizona giving his first hand. The Phoenix Lights. description of the thing he saw the huge ship over his head. That's right.

He's the governor. We had an episode about undeniable mass sightings. That's right. Which was really one of my favorite ones to do because, again, it kind of, I was trying to take away in that episode, I was trying to take away the misnomer that this only happens to cow farmers in the middle of, you know, Iowa or something. And that's what everybody thinks. It still has that stigma.

We had somebody say it to us last week and I was like, you know what? You've inspired me. We are now going to do an episode. Again, trying to dispel the stigma of this only happens when no one's around to, you know, to Uncle Fester who's tending to the cows. So that's the nexus of this. Someone actually said to you, why are you doing this podcast because only weird morons who live in on cornfields. Exactly. So talk about this. That stigma is still out there.

So this episode, actually this two-part episode is really the purpose of it is to try to get rid of that misnomer, to get rid of that stigma and say, hey, guess what? This doesn't just happen in remote areas. It happens in the big city. It does, and that's actually, and it happens with many witnesses and with unexplained. Not just green acres, but on park place. Yeah, cover-ups and all this stuff. So speaking of big cities, Karen, that's where we're going for us with Linda Napolitiano. Oh, boy.

I can't say her name. That's all right. Let's call her Linda. Okay, we'll call her Linda from that one. So let me set the scene for you here. All righty. It's a night like any other as Linda sleeps in. her high-rise apartment in New York City.

Yep. Okay, New York City, yes. Yeah. An abduction did allegedly take place in the Big Apple itself. Huh. As she slept, a bright blue beam was seen shining through her window. Again, this is in New York. This isn't an NYPD and some sort of traffic stop. No, no, not a helicopter. And this is, allegedly it took place around three in the morning. So you're talking really middle of the night here. But, hey, New York City is the city that, the city that, what, never sleeps, right? Oh, yeah.

So everybody's around. There's always someone to see something going on, and it wasn't a helicopter or anything else. And, well, here's why. The Manhattan Transfer Abduction. Linda Cortillo was living in a New York City high rise when she claimed to have been visited and abducted by aliens, who whisked her right from an open apartment window in 1989. Napolitano pointed to a nasal surgery of which she had no recollection as proof, offering up a new bump next to her nose as evidence.

Her story of abduction was reportedly witnessed by two bodyguards, supposedly working a United Nations security detail. In the aftermath of the event, both men allegedly suffered psychotic breakdowns. Despite scrutiny, Napolitano remained adamant about her story, which included being led inside a clam-shaped UFO filled with oddly shaped metallic furniture. What? So the UN guards had mental breakdowns? There's a lot. And she had a bump on her nose.

What did they put something up her nose to, like, take a piece of her brain? Well, according to her, and there's a lot to unwrap here. So we'll get to all the details as we go. My God. First off, the taking out the beam of light coming into the apartment, this was seen, again, by witnesses in the city. People even on the Brooklyn Bridge reported seeing this happen. But they didn't see her in the beam. Well, that's the thing.

So you had, I'll go in order. First, let me get to the nose, okay? Getting back to the nose here, that is something that she claims she had an implant in there. We've talked about Dr. Roger Lear and, I mean, way back, I'm talking maybe, what was it, maybe within our first seven episodes. And he was known as the doctor who would take out implants from alien abductees. And he would find these things in people, I mean, in their wrists, in their hands, under the thumb, you know, in the, arm in the nose and he would, he became known as kind of the alien

doctor because he would be taking out these implants of people who said they got it from alien abductions. And Linda was no different here. She claimed that they put this, I guess, medical instrument up her nose that had like this circular thing on the end and they put the circular thing up

in her nasal cavity. And whatever that is, I don't know. But that's what she claimed. And, you mean, there was proof through, you know, x-rays and things like that, that there was something there. So that's what she always kind of fell back on to say, no, this really happened to me. There's something in my nose.

They can remove it. They could. Maybe they did. Yeah. Her story, there's some different things said. And I know if you're listening, you might be thinking to yourself, why aren't you getting into the whole story about her, about how the bodyguards allegedly kidnapped her. And I didn't want to get into the minutia of her entire story.

It gets a little dark. And quite frankly, it gets confusing. And it gets very convoluted. And I wasn't even sure how much of the backends of her story that was made up. It got very, very weird. So if you want to look into the other parts of her story that happened after her alleged abduction, you can do that. But we're not doing that here in this episode because I think it was important to focus on an abduction that allegedly took place in a major city that was witnessed by a lot of people in New York.

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and talked about seeing the metallic furniture. And I want to touch on that because I found that interesting, Karen. Because remember when we spoke about, and this isn't the first time that we're going to talk about this guy's name in this two-part series. Bob Lazard. Yes. We did a whole... I think we might have done a two-part series on him.

I'm not sure. But no, it was a whole episode. That's right. And he talked about seeing... If you don't remember Bob Lazar, you can go back and listen to the episode. But he talked about... He was a guy who worked in the Secret's faction of like Area 51 and worked on these UFOs that were recovered.

And he was basically hired to reverse engineer the alien technology. Yeah, he explains what he saw. Right. He saw actual crafts. Crafts and bodies and all these different things. So I found it interesting with her description in 1989 of this strange metallic furniture, going back to his description, one of the things we spoke about with him, when he said he was working on these crafts and this secret government base,

he talked about how everything was like these strange metallic shapes. Right. And she said it was a clam-shaped craft. Right, right. And so it kind of, it matches. Yeah. If you go back and you listen to the Bob Lazar episode, you'll realize that her testimony from 1989 matches his claims that weren't really made public yet.

Right, exactly. So stuff like that kind of makes you wonder, that's all. I forget his Bob Lazar are still alive. He is still alive. That's why I wanted to get him, see if we can interview him. He's tough to get. He's very tough to get. I think he's only done like the Joe Rogan show.

Well, then we had audio from that. Right, exactly. And he has said publicly before he hates doing interviews. I know. So he's kind of like a recluse. But anyway, so there's that kind of coincidence, if you want to call it that. I don't know, maybe matching detail. But then let's look at the UN bodyguards there.

So it took a while for these two guys who saw this happen from the street to be identified. At first, they were thought that they were NYPD officers. Then they said that they were with a government organization. Well, I'm assuming her building was near the UN building. It was in type of, it was kind of in the Brooklyn area, which the UN isn't really in that part, but they were supposedly driving. It came out to be later that the two guys who saw were actually UN officials who were bodyguards and driving the, at that time, the United Nations Secretary General Javier Perez de QR. And apparently, all three of them were in this, you know, government car driving towards the UN for. or toward the hotel, I don't know.

And they saw this happen. And they say that they saw her in the beam. Oh, they did see her. Yes. Because sometimes people don't see the actual person in the beam. Maybe they've been departiculated. Is that a UAP term? It could be.

We can make it one. But they were the ones, they were kind of like the star witnesses, so to speak. And again, if you dive into her story a little bit more, that's up to you. I didn't want to go into the minutia of her being kidnapped. Well, now I want to know. You have to tell me. It's just, it's very weird. It got weird.

Who kidnapped her? Supposedly these guys did. Oh, geez. And they became, like, obsessed with her. And I think that's what's the mental breakdown. Right. So the mental breakdown is referring to them essentially becoming obsessed with her and her story. And it got very, very strange.

You can understand that, though. They saw it. They saw it. So they were part of it. Yeah. They felt personally affected by it. Reportedly, these two guys were never the same. And it's got to be very scary to see that.

I mean, could you imagine driving down? No. Brooklyn streets and you see this woman in a beam of light going into a craft. Shape like a clam. And that's what these guys say they saw in New York City. That's wild. In 1989, right? 1889, that's right.

I mean, it does. It sounds like something that's kind of out of a movie. But again, this stuff just doesn't happen in the cornfields of Nebraska. Okay. So that's why we're doing this. But for all those reasons, you know, it's considered to be one of the most controversial but important. abduction stories on record. Yeah.

Wild, isn't it? Very. Especially in New York. I mean, so heavily populated. Right. Yeah. But onward we go. And as you may know, Karen, there are numerous stories, numerous,

involving the U.S. military and the alien encounters. And until now, they've been told to shut up. Yeah. We only hear any kidding. I mean, we've covered a handful of them. Yes. And in a lot of our previous episodes, we've talked about Operation High Jump. Ooh, that's one of our more list than two episodes.

To this day. And that goes back to. like episode three. So feel free anytime you want, 850WFTL.com. You go to the podcast section. All of our episodes are there. You'll see UAP. No, you send them to the platforms. We're on Spotify. We're on Apple iTunes.

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We've talked about Roswell or the Dulce Bay Wars, which was another huge one. Rundlesham Forest. We've talked about that in England, who are English, UK listeners, or any other number of stories where UFOs have showed up at test sites. Yeah. Shetown missiles. Malmstrom Air Force Base. We've talked about that. So crazy.

A lot that's happening. There always seems to be some type of connection to aliens and the U.S. military. Remember we did the episode where we were talking about Shirley McLean said that the aliens come back to Earth when we threaten nuclear holocaust, and they just want to make sure we don't kill ourselves and blow up the planet or destroy the universe, which apparently we have the power to do. Maybe. And to that point, you're so dumb.

You know, and think what you want about Shirley McLean. I know some people think she's a loon. I have an open mind. Oh, do you have to have an open mind? She's not the only one who says that that's why they do come and why ships are seen around our nuclear arsenals, because they just want to make sure that we don't screw up and blow everything up. And that was part of the reason why we did our, not to keep plugging past episodes,

but a lot of this comes back. A lot of it ties in when we did our episode about are we the aliens? You know, is it us traveling from the future to say, hey, morons, don't do this because, you know, X, Y, and Z is going to happen. Yeah, it's us. It's us. Coming back to tell us to stop it. It could be. It's all theories. But to that point, Karen, we talked about all those different things.

things and maybe trying to stop nuclear war and that's kind of where this next story takes us. Yes. And we wanted to cover this is one of two, just a heads up because like we said, it's a two part series here about these high profile abduction cases that aren't really publicized.

This is one of two stories that involved the military in particular. And they have high level witnesses and supposed coverups by the way. Oh yeah. They're startling. They're a little disturbing. But that's what we have coming up here, is that they evolved the military, both of these stories.

The one that we're going to finish off with here today and then in part two is really quite a doozy. So let's go ahead and jump right in to our first encounter because, again, going back to the nuclear-type stuff and wars and things like that, this one dates back 70 years to the Korean War. Yeah, my ex-husband's father served in the Korean War. Is that right? He said it was really cold and mountainous and awful. And it's so important to remember. those veterans because the Korean War is considered

like the forgotten war. Like broke his back and oh my God it was awful. They went through hell. They did. It's important to remember that one. Now it was this happened in May 1951 this particular story here which is one year into the Korean War and there was a man named Private First Class

Francis P. Wall, okay? One that'd get his name specifically in here because... You're going to hear about it. Yeah. His regiment found themselves stationed about 60 miles north of Seoul. So that's where this story takes place about seven years ago north of Seoul. It's important to keep a couple things in mind here, okay?

Number one, the time frame, because it's the early 50s. So remember, that means it's only a few years after the crash at Roswell. Right. Which was first, yes, they published it was a UFO and then, oh, no, we covered it up. It's a weather balloon. So at that point. So that's how sticky it was. Right, exactly.

I mean, secrecy involving UFO is at an all-time high at that point. So it's also important to note everything that you're about to hear, came directly from private first class Francis P. Wall. This is from a 1987 interview. We did a tele-in interview with UFO researchers who were trying to get to the bottom of this story because before he came out about it in 1987, this story was really just thing of myth.

It was hearsay. Well, because back then in the military, they didn't want to document what happened. Right, exactly. They intentionally didn't document it. Exactly. So here is very upsetting. and there's a major attack that they were preparing for.

Yeah, they were closing on Korean forces here. The North Korean forces. Right, exactly. So the military, U.S. military is setting up. They've kind of came in like a pincer movement to North Korean forces, and they're trying to drive them out, and they're setting up for this major attack, and that's when things start to kind of go wrong.

The thunderous booms echo across the hills, as a dozen guns open up one by one and deliver death to the, enemy. Suddenly, though, private wall and other men responsible for providing security for the artillery sees something in the hills above the village. It seems that the bombardment has attracted the attention of something none of the men will ever be able to explain. The light is dim at first, but quickly grows in brightness as it moves down the jungle hill. To the Americans, it appears like a floating jack-o'-lantern, emitting some kind of light from its body that is at first orange in color. To their shock, the light moves just over the village,

even as the American artillery continues to pour fire into it. So here come the UFOs, Karen. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. Little did the U.S. forces know what they were up against, though, because as they started to fire upon the graft... Oh, gosh. The air-bursting shells detonate all around it,

and then the light does something incredible. In a move that defies all-known physics, the light is able to rapidly move to the side of an exploding shell, avoiding being directly hit by the rounds. Even avoiding a direct hit, the object, which by now, the men, must be some sort of craft, must have some sort of protective shielding, as it's still being showered by Fregg from the exploding artillery shells.

Even if it is receiving any damage, though, the Americans on the ground are unable to tell and simply watch in awe for almost an hour, as the craft weather's the bombardment of the village. I mean... That's a long time. It is. An hour. Imagine going through that, and you hear about force fields of all these things. I mean, it sounds like something of the movie Independence Day, you know?

And it's like bobbing and weaving like Muhammad Ali. I mean, it's floating like a butterfly, stinging like a bee. And this again, this is in 19, before Muhammad Ali, this is in 1951. They're like, what is that? So who can have that type of technology? We're actually talking about U.S. armed forces engaging with a UFO and not being able to penetrate it because of some type of force field. And, you know, of course the first thought goes to, and this is what many skeptics thought about the story when they first started to hear about it from the forces was, well, it must be some type of secret Russian technology. Right. Because again, going...

Of course it is. It must be, right? Because going back, again, to the theory that aliens intervene when we're getting a little bit too close to self-destruction, this was essentially the beginning of the Cold War because as the Korean War started, there were a lot of fears that this was going to be the beginning of World War III. World War II had just ended like five or six years prior. And now, you know, you're starting to... We have the atomic bomb.

Russia's developing it. And now everybody's thinking, are we about to blow ourselves up here? and so maybe that's why the aliens are interfering because they're like, hey, you guys have these weapons now, we've got to make sure that you're not going to use these things. And that could be explained and in every other scenario that's happened with the military that we've spoken about too.

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Hawaii starts here. So, of course, the skeptics started saying, well, this must be Russian technology that they got after World War II, from the projects that the Nazis were working on, because we know, and we've talked about before, Karen, that the Nazis were working on some secret technology of their own, you know, the Nazi bell and things like that. So, you know, the theories were where maybe this is the Russians,

but it wasn't because we came to later find out that the Russians were experiencing sightings as well. Oh, yeah. And things like this. So as they continued to fire upon the craft, they noticed something very ominous. Not only was it not the Russians, but it was starting to come right toward them.

Oh, my gosh. Suddenly, the craft goes wild. The lights begin flickering on and off erratically, and the craft makes crazy sporadic movements from side to side. At one point, though, the craft remains floating in the air above the GIs. The lights go completely off, but then seems to flicker back to life. The Americans on the ground worried that the craft is going to either explode or come crashing down on their heads.

The US forces continued, I guess, to attack the craft they thought they were making headway, but then the aliens pulled a 180. Then, the craft seems to regain its stability, and suddenly the mountain valley is filled with the unbearable sound of what seemed to be dozens of diesel-train locomotive starting up all at once. The craft begins pulsing bluish light and attacks the soldiers below. As the men watch helplessly, the craft sweeps a ray across the battlefield below it. The brightly colored ray seems to come in pulses that the men can only see when it sweeps

directly over them. Like car headlights or a searchlight in the dark, the craft sweeps this ray across the ground below it, seeking out soldiers where they lay in their fighting positions. As it sweeps over each man, they're racked with a burning, tingling sensation all over their flesh. The company commander immediately shouts for his men to take shelter from their bunkers, small dugouts reinforced with plywood and sandbags. The bunkers offer protection for their men from the artillery bombardments, and the soldiers

dive below the ground to take shelter from the mysterious ray. All right, so a lot to unpack here. First off, they did think that they were making some headway. you said, Karen, because they noticed some bullet holes actually going into the side of the craft. And that's when, you know, you started to see it coming down toward them. It was kind of going on and off. But then it did recover. And that's when it started.

That's weird, right? Yeah. It is amazing. It was almost like the Terminator guy. Right. You shoot him and he comes back. It's an interesting point, though. I mean, what kind of technology did they have that maybe was there some type of like material regenerating technology that they had?

You know? Lizard. can regrow their tail. Interesting. Maybe were these the reptilians? I don't know. But it's a good point because, again, this is technology that nobody had ever seen before and they were up against it. 70 years ago.

The bobbing and the weaving, moving in and out, getting away from the shells. The force field, nothing can penetrate it. And so they started using those armor piercing rounds. So it's just incredible to think that that's what they were going through seven years ago. And you hear these same type of reports about, you know, instantaneous

acceleration and all these different things now, and it hasn't changed. Well, but all this was done in Star Trek. You put it with the force field or what is it? Yeah. The shields. Yeah, these shields. And then in Star Wars, they go, what's that called? Lights, you go warp speed and everything.

Yeah. So we knew about this. We somehow, people that actually in Hollywood know about this. They always put the stuff in movies. Yeah, they do. Independence Day. Yeah. So we think of it as just, oh, well, that's just fiction.

Yeah, science fiction. But no, it happened in the 50s. According to this story, again, this is all coming from private first class Francis P. Wall. This was his account, of course, told through different mediums, us and the videos that you're hearing and everything is being retold. But these are his details. And could you imagine the sound? I mean, what is that sound they're talking about? I don't know.

It was a black hole. Oh, no. It could have been a black hole. Oh, my gosh. What is the UFO? There it is. Was it harnessing the power? Of the black hole, that is so creepy.

I can't believe it sounds like that. So scary. So they're hiding in this bunker. This blue light is going over them. And I want you to remember, too, what they said about feeling the burning tingling sensation. It's really important to remember as we get into the final. When the blue light came over them, even though they were in their bunker, right? Yes.

In their plywood, they actually went underground. It was still affecting them. They could see it. They could feel it a little bit. So, I mean, just imagine this. As they hit in their bunker, they watched as the crafts, again, of course, According to private first class wall, they saw it shoot out this, this brilliant light, as if the night just turned into day.

Right. And they stayed hidden until the UFO sped off at what Wall described as impossible speed. How many times did we heard that before, right? As the night wore on. Space balls. Yeah, right. There you go. Ridicrous speed.

Ludicrous speed. It all comes from somewhere. It's right. So the night war is on. They're down in their bunker. And they finally decided to come out of hiding, and they debrief with their commander. Now, not surprisingly, for the time, and even days like now, they still do this, they thought the nightmare was over, so they decided to keep it all to themselves because they didn't want to think that they were crazy. While each day, the company is expected to file a report on its activities for the day, the company commander agrees it's best to leave this one off the books for now for fear that they'll all be thought of as crazy.

Yeah, see, and that's the stigma, Karen. Yep. That's it. That's what we've talked about. I mean, I even felt it myself. we talked about, you know, I never really brought this stuff up because I didn't want people to think it was some type of crazy person. Well, half the room thought you were, you know, that you were crazy. Yes. I fortunately didn't.

And I came to you and said, you did. I think we need to do a podcast. You did. And then people laughed at us. They did. They laughed at us. Who's laughing now? That's right, baby.

But no, thank you to everybody who's been listening because it's your response that has made this show. You're validating us. Yeah, exactly. And now Congress is validating us. Man, I can't wait. After the Pentagon validated it. I can't wait. So, but yeah, this show has really, no pun intended, taken off at impossible speeds.

Warp speed. But it's all thanks to everybody who's been listening because I'm glad that you're out there with us. Globally. Or possibly, intergalactically. Maybe. Do they have podcasts in space? Sure they do. I'm just glad that.

Black holes make sound. Yeah, well, I'm just glad that people have an open mind to all this, you know. We leave it up to you, dear listener. And that's it. Exactly. That's always been our mission from. Day one. I'm glad to say that, Karen. That's been our mission from day one is to present you to present you with the story and leave it up to you. Is it B.S.? Is it plausible? Are there some things

you believe or don't believe? Maybe there's a little bit of both, but it's up to you. We're not coming on here. No, this is the story. Private First Class Wall is giving this account. You know, people witnessed the deduction there in New York. That's their account. We leave it up to you, but these are the stories. These are the details. So we were not making any of it up. We promise. Now, how did this all-end? for the soldiers and private first-class wall. Well, unfortunately for them, not well. A few days later, the men of the 25th Infantry Division, 27th Regiment, 2nd Battalion,

Easy Company, start to fall ill. They're nauseous, they have terrible headaches and diarrhea. So many of them are affected at once that the army has to cut a road through the jungle to send ambulances and evacuate many of them. When doctors examine them, they find the men have extremely high counts of white blood cells and seemed to be suffering from dysentery. After the war, Private Wall would struggle with PTSD and dropped from 180 pounds to 136. The weight loss would be permanent, and the private would struggle all his life with weight issues as he struggled to recover to his normal weight.

An official explanation for the event was never given. Okay, so I want that weight loss plan because that sounds really effective. Let me get that Blu-ray aliens. Let's get that Blu-ray in here. Holy moly. He lost all that weight and it never came back? My gosh, that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable.

And the reason why I said to remember... We could do alien weight loss. There you go. It's a new program. We'll have an infomercial. But the reason why I said... I mean, not to joke around about the guy, I'm sure that was been terrible from... Oh, I'm so sorry.

Yeah, it'd be bad. But the reason why I said to remember about the radiation... Or not the radiation, but how they felt that the light, the burning, the tingling sensation... Well, radiation. It's radiation poisoning. Yeah. And so we talk about the dysentery and all these different things that they had afterward. It really does kind of come back to this.

Blue light, you would think, that's my assumption about radiation poisoning. I think also doesn't the radiation destroy the bone marrow blood cells and that would cause the white blood cells too? Yeah. So, I mean, it does kind of match when you think about, man, these guys, you hear about that burning sensation. We've heard that in other stories too. We haven't covered every single alien encounter here, but there are the ones I've heard about

where people have experienced that same burning sensation and it ends up being radiation. So that's my assumption, just based off of my experience and kind of delving into these stories and these accounts, that's what they got. And that's what Private First Wall, First Class wall kind of experience there was radiation poisoning that caused the dysentery, the diarrhea, the weight issues. Oh, please don't go into the whole litany of some symptoms. That's what happened to them. This is scientific, Karen. This is the genesis, maybe, of alien military involvement in their interest in our kind of weapons of mass destruction capability. Seems like they would have been around when we dropped the big one on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

That must have gotten there. They're like, what are the humans doing on Earth again? Right. I mean, I don't know. What is going on now? You would think, and then all of a sudden they start showing up with Roswell, then they're there in the Korean War. And this could be, is this like the first, one of the first major events? that a lot of people don't talk about and don't know about which is why we wanted to bring it up today.

So I don't know. This is not just been around from the Korean War. Oh, I mean, we've talked plenty about ancient Egypt and things like that. Thousands of years ago. Well, believe it or not, that was the more tame of the two military stories. Oh, my gosh. So the next one we're going to get to next week, Karen. I'm going to give it a warning right now.

Okay. It does get quite graphic. Oh, dear. And it's considered to be one of the most mysterious and questioned cases of all times. to this day. Wow. And it does involve the military. Oh.

So we kind of had the start there of maybe, maybe the start of military, alien involvement in the military with this Korean War case that, again, is not highly publicized, but has been first-hand account by a private wall there. No, but you had the Fugees? Oh, the Foo Fighters. Foo Fighters. Two different bands, two different music groups. And in World War II, the Foo Fighters were aliens. Yes. Right?

So that's something. that's, yeah, the World War II pilots did start seeing. So you're right. Yeah. It was going on. But this one here was really kind of like your first. Well, when they shot back. Right.

This might have been, and I don't know this were a fact, but it seems to me that this might have been the first major involvement. Encounter. Exactly. Exactly. But then again, Operation High Jump. So maybe I'm wrong. I'm telling you, go back.

Episode 3, Operation High Jump is wild. It's just so much. That did take place before 19. 51 Operation High Jump in Antarctica. So, man, they have been kind of meddling for a while, haven't they? Yes, they have. And there's going to be more next week. It doesn't just happen in the cornfields of Nebraska.

That's right. Because next week we're going to, again, another military story this time in New Mexico when we go over another wild abduction case. And much more to come in part two of these high-profile cases that really don't get a lot of mention. And they kind of take away the stigma of, oh, this only happens to, cow farmers. Please. That's what we're here for.

It's all going to come up next time on UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast. It's Karen Curtis there. It's Stephen Deiner here. Don't forget to download and subscribe to the podcast. Apple, Spotify, wherever you get it. 850wFTL.com. You can check us out there as well. We always have something going on on our blog page.

And, well, we'll talk to you again next time. Be safe.