UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - Labor Day Weekend Special - Messages in the Pyramids and Crop Circles

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Last time, we discussed the hidden messages of sacred geometry all round us and inside of us, but this time around, the message is a little bit more direct. Could aliens be trying to speak to... us through math by using the Pyramids and crop circles? Proof of their presence might've been in front of our face the entire time...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:16 with the long Labor Day weekend here in the States. And shout out to everyone who listens around the world. I get so many great messages from places like New Zealand and Australia and England and Spain. It's amazing to see the reach of UAP, so I always really appreciate that. Oh, in Canada, a lot of great messages from Canada. But here in the States, we're ready for a long weekend. And I thought, you know what, why not put out a couple of like bonus episodes, like Labor Day bonus episodes of UAP? I thought that would be fun. So what I did was, I went ahead and got together a couple of greatest hits additions that playoff of the other two greatest hits that I put out within the past couple of weeks. So today I'm putting out this one that connects with the one I did two weeks ago with Sacred Geometry. This was part two of the Sacred Geometry series. And tomorrow I'm going to put out the first episode that connects to the Grizzly Abduction series that I just put out for the greatest hits.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So kind of a lot to put together there, but I'm making it all kind of come together in a fun way here for the Labor Day weekend. And then we got some new stuff coming up in the coming week. Actually, I'll tell you right now. I spoke with Roderick Castle, the new witness who has recently come out and spoken about his experience with a black triangle UAP in the desert and being held at gunpoint by mercenaries in the Arizona desert. Unbelievable story. We spoke for over an hour and a half. So I'll be presenting that next week. But for now, for this Labor Day weekend, enjoy these bonus episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:55 of UAP. Thanks. All right. Welcome in. Welcome back to another episode of UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast, Episode 41. And if you thought last week was mind-blowing,
Starting point is 00:03:13 it's always mind-blowing, isn't it, Karen? Big time. Oh, yeah. How are you, Cameron? I'm well out of you. Good, good. I'm excited. I'm always excited when we start one of these
Starting point is 00:03:20 because it's like a new mental adventure every single week. There's always something weird and crazy and mind-blowing and like, it's just, I know we use the term mind-blowing all the time. because it really is. A lot of this stuff is just like, holy cow. Well, we can always say, you know, bending spoons with our minds.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yes. It just seems like aliens are trying to talk to us and, you know, the overlord up there is going, so how's it going on Earth with those humans? And they're like, we're leaving them all these messages, all these signs, all these symbols, all these breadcrumbs, and they're just not paying attention. And, well, that's what we're going to do today. Eye-opening. That's another one that I'm trying to think of.
Starting point is 00:03:56 There you go. popping an experience today where I think maybe we will finally get some of these messages and we're going to go along together and figure these things out and talk about... For the greater good of human kind. Yes. And the communication that aliens might be trying, may have been trying to do with us for decades and centuries and we've just been overlooking it. So that's where we're going to look at today.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's all there. It's all there right in front of our face, literally. So we're going to look at some of that today, just like last week with the sacred geometry. That was kind of a different way of messaging and communication. This one's a little more physical that we're going to go into today. But aside from that, Karen, you know, we start with the factoid. We do. And I thought, you know, in the same vein of what we're talking about today, NASA scientists are going to launch pictures of naked humans. Excuse me?
Starting point is 00:04:45 It'll be me and Stephen Diener. I was going to say. Birthday suits. Did they hack into my phone? I mean, this. What's on your phone? I'm just saying, I mean, my gosh. Please.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah. None of that. Anyway, they're going to launch these photos into space in hopes of luring aliens to us. But they're not actual photographs of people. They're not graphic of naked humans. They're a drawing of a naked man and a naked woman next to the depiction of DNA. So the man and the woman are waving, hello, in an attempt to look more inviting. So artist renderings.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It's not like they're sending up pictures of, you know, Kim Kardashian or anything like that. No, okay. mercy all right well that's an interesting new take from NASA nice job and not to get too far off subject here but it just makes me think of one of the other episodes we had last month where we talked about you know aliens like how are like what do they experience what is the alien experience what do we know about them from people who have supposedly had direct contact
Starting point is 00:05:50 with aliens in places like the Dulce base and one of the answers that we got were they basically just have no personality There is no sexual attraction. There's no, nothing like that. So I'm not sure if this is really going to work as far as maybe just other than science itself. Here's our anatomy and this is what we look like. Well, case and point, you know, what we just started talking about, this is actually hilarious because the aliens know we're here. And they've been trying to communicate with us for thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And we're sending them a naked picture of us waving at them. They're like, oh, my God. That's old news. sending that. We know you're there. And then if you believe some of the abduction stories we've gone over before, then it wouldn't really be a surprise to them. Look, they've sent us a postcard. Oh my gosh. Oh, my God. So speaking of postcards, Karen, that's a nice segue there. Talk about
Starting point is 00:06:42 ways of communicating. There's a lot of different ways that we think aliens have been trying to communicate with us, that society has just been overlooking continuously. Pay attention, people. And in our last episode we did cover a lot about the way life is built. We went more about like with sacred geometry, how it relates to the golden ratio and all those things. But now it's really, I think, taking a look at the building block stage.
Starting point is 00:07:07 The tangible actual messages. Right. Just the hidden math that we have around us in our universe or on our planet. But the actual things, the symbols and signs that are in the ground and also like for large geoglyphs. It's everywhere. It's in all different. scales. It's everywhere. We got it all right here today. And it's, it does relate to math. Now,
Starting point is 00:07:30 don't be scared. No. But it really is right in front of our faces. And I know that math term is scary, but remember, it's considered to be the universal language. Which screws me because I'm not good at math. And so if it is the language that we would eventually speak if we do start talking to aliens, I'd be like, uh, uh, uh, knot times not is not carried the knot. It'd be like, oh God. What are you saying? We don't understand you. But I know, we've covered some of these things that you're going to hear today before in previous episodes, okay? And we'll just tell you that right up front. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:08:02 They're going to tune out. No, no. Don't listen to Stephen. It's in a very different way today. It's all new and fresh. It's different aspects in any single way that we've covered this stuff here that we're going to talk about before because we have a new angle. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Not a math joke. A math joke. See what I did there. Anyway, it is a new and exciting angle involving the great pyramid of the, of Giza. That's where we're going to start here today. With our friend David Childress. Ever since the first studies of the Great Pyramid in Egypt have been made, researchers have been amazed at the mathematical knowledge that is encoded into the Great Pyramid,
Starting point is 00:08:41 the measurements that are used in it. Even the placement of the Great Pyramid has aroused great interest among Egyptologists. That's right. And that's, so that's what really, one, the focus, on here today because again last week it was more about communication through the geometry through golden ratio through how things in us were made and how it relates to the universe this is math this is again universal language and when you start to look at some of these things you start to realize oh wow this all connects yeah you know people go to egypt and go oh look at that
Starting point is 00:09:13 big stone triangle cool right no it's actually aligned with what the Orion's belt it's actually on true cardinal north it's aligned with cardinal north it's aligned with cardinal north It can't be a coincidence. You have to start looking at, okay, it's more than just a structure in the middle of the desert. And that's, well, there's more to adhere. And so when you hear more here, you will start to realize, I think, like we have, Karen, this cannot be just a simple coincidence when you start to hear more. No, here is Michael Denon. He's a Ph.D.
Starting point is 00:09:45 When you look at the Great Pyramid's alignment, it's aligned very, very close to True North. Even more interesting is to think about tracking back in time because the Earth's axis has been shifting slowly. It's what we call processes. And so if there's been a shift in that alignment, it could be that it was even more accurately aligned to North in the past when they built it. Wow. Right. That's a lot of coincidence. So how, okay, so think about this.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Okay. I know, again, the true North, it's the math of the pyramid and things like that. But that's the language. That's how you speak to somebody if you're from another world because math is universal. And when you start to look at the pyramid, I know, oh, the pyramid again, but when you look at it this way, you come to the realization that this is not like you say, Karen, just a big triangle in the middle of the desert. This thing was put here for a very specific reason in a very specific spot. So, and again, exactly aligned with that cardinal true north. It can't be a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Why is that true north position so significant? Well, consider this point here. If you pass a great circle from the Great Pyramid through its cardinal and its ordinal directions, what you find is that these circles will pass through more landmass of the earth than any other location on Earth. You find that the Great Pyramid is essentially located at the center of the world's landmass. Hello. Earth. I love that guy's accent.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It's like, it reminds you in the movie Brave. I have kids, so I watch a lot of Disney movies. I love that movie. I mean, but look, I know maybe that was a little bit hard to understand, but when it comes down to it, what he's saying there is the pyramid is lined up. Essentially, when you do the math, you find out that it, when you draw all these different lines from the center of the pyramid, it goes through more land on the earth than any other structure,
Starting point is 00:11:39 any other point in the earth. It's the center of the earth. I know sometimes we think we're the center. of the earth, right? We're a center of our own universes. But the Great Pyramid of Giza is literally, by definition of math and latitude and everything like that, when you draw these lines, it is the center of the earth.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So why? And really, what other structures that we have built are going to be standing 4,000, 6,000 years from now? Not, I, I postulate none of the things that we've built. I mean, because it's all built differently than. than before, right? Then some of these ancient civilizations and cultures built their structures. Even from the way they built things over in Ireland and England, those things are still standing. Right. Stonehenge and only different, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 There's a wall built in the 1400s still standing there. You come here and if it's 30 years old, we'd knock it down and rebuild. That's right. Oh, you're a great point, you know? A wall you put up 10 years ago has got graffiti on it and so you've got put up a new one. I mean, knock that down. We need a new one. We can't have this old stuff around here. So, yeah, nothing will be left. But. So it's, when you really start to consider this stuff, you have to start to think, okay, well, all right, it lines up perfectly with A, B, and C, and it's true north. And it covers all this ground. And that's fascinating to me, Karen, because when you talk about the pyramid and it's true north position and that it covers when you draw these lines, you know, around the earth, it covers more landmass than any other structure or any other place in the world. So that, to me, says this was a specific hub, right? Think about transportation hubs. that we use today. They're all strategically placed. They're all put in a spot where it's going to be easily accessible for trade and things like
Starting point is 00:13:21 that. So whoever built this and why they wanted it at that specific spot to where we can cover all the landmass better than any other point on the earth. It's not by accident. No. So with all that in mind, we have to ask ourselves, could that position really be a coincidence? No. Could the ancient Egyptians simply have gotten extremely lucky with where they built the pyramid?
Starting point is 00:13:44 They threw a dart and it landed in Giza. Let's just put it here. Let's just put it here. Oh, wow, look, this is perfect. So, I mean, look, I'm not judging you. That's fine if you think so because, again, we've said this from day one, episode one, which is 10 months ago now. You believe that with 10 months journey together through space and time. We've said it from day one.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You make up your own mind. This is never meant to be a preachy type of thing. It's never meant to be here is what it is, believe us or go away. We're just giving you the information that's out there and you make up your own mind. Not ancient astronaut theorists. No. So if you think that all this is BS, then that's fine. But ask yourself this.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Could their luck have struck again with the exact measurement involved with each stone? That's right. We're leaving no stone unturned. The Great Pyramid was built the level of technological sophistication far in excess of anything that we have today. They don't use the inch as we normally have it in the English system. It's the cubit. And what's interesting about this cubit is that it is exactly one 25 millionth of the polar diameter of the earth, meaning the distance from the North Pole to the South Pole of the Earth, chop it up into 25 million pieces.
Starting point is 00:14:58 There's your cubit. It's perfect. If you actually take the length for the Great Pyramid at its mean socket level, which is the corners of the actual building, it translates into 365.24 pyramid cubits, which just happens to be the earthly year right down to a quarter day. Hello. Oh, my gosh. The proof is in the pudding. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So you still think it might be luck and coincidence. The numbers don't lie, Karen. Those are specifics. Maybe we should still be using cubits, though. Maybe that's part of the problem. Well, I remember that. I mean, that was the term of measurement. I mean, back in the Old Testament, Noah's Ark.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Exactly. I mean, it's all measured in Cubits and all those things. The Ark of the Covenant. Right, right. So everything was built as a measurement toward cubits in ancient times. What is the cubit? I forget the... Your size your thumb, right?
Starting point is 00:15:42 I forget how they measured that. I remember looking up one time when we did our episode on Giants, which was one of my favorite episodes, by the way, if you didn't hear that one, I don't know, I forget the number, maybe like 18 or somewhere in the 20s. You could always go back 850WFTL.com or Apple or Spotify. However, or wherever you get our podcast, you could always go back and listen to previous episodes.
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Starting point is 00:19:41 See, we're blowing our own mind now. Yeah. And then we came along with, no, we're going to go inch pound. Inch and pound. And then Europe went, no, we're going to go metric. Metric is scary. Keep it away. Oh, stop. But it really is amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:54 You think about the measurement of each stone, right? Like they were saying there, the cubit, how it lines up perfectly. They're not a centimeter off from the north to the south pole perfectly. And then you add it all and you talk about the dimensions of the pyramid and how it fits and it adds up to the amount of days in a year. I mean, this is just insanity. Someone had to be paying attention to that to come up with the number of days in the year. Or somebody was told. Oh, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Uh-huh. Okay. So what are they trying to tell us? These are all very specific messages through math built into the pyramid. At least that's the way I see it. Now, think about this. It also reminds me when they talk about how it lines up with the earth, right? you said the 365 days.
Starting point is 00:20:38 We did last week, we did the deep dive and the sacred geometry and all that. Remember this, you might have thought about this too. If you heard last week's episode about sacred geometry,
Starting point is 00:20:46 we talked about the tetrahedrons and everything that if you put it one on top of the other. Which becomes a star tetrahedron. Listen to this. You might have thought of this too. It's amazing how things connect. When you have two tetrahedrons
Starting point is 00:20:57 inverted over one another, that forms a star tetrahedron. When we look at a star tetrahedron and we're, inside of the sphere, the vertices of a star tetrahedron impact the sphere at 19.5 latitude, both north and south. And that is exactly where the big island of Hawaii is in relationship to the entire planet. Which is where... Because of the planet's geometry, you're going to have hot spots that
Starting point is 00:21:26 would be very strongly charged in such a way that you could use these hot spots to teleport from one point to the other. Now the Great Pyramid of Giza isn't on 19.5. I think it's 26.2. It's somewhere in there. I could be wrong with that. The hot spot, the big islands of Kilauea, one of the oldest founting volcanoes on Earth. Right. So if you didn't hear that last week,
Starting point is 00:21:51 they were talking about, and we were talking about 19.5 degrees, how you have that hotspot in Hawaii, the big island, and that connects directly to Easter Island and all these different spots throughout the world that they consider what, you know, hotspots. maybe used for teleportation, and they're all connected on the same latitude. And then, so when I heard this thing about the pyramid,
Starting point is 00:22:12 how it can line up perfectly and add up to the days of the year and how long it takes exactly for, you know, the rotation, everything with the sun, and for the year, I thought, oh, my gosh, the tetrahedron is a pyramid. It's a same shape. Right. And so now when you make this connection, it's all, I mean, sacred geometry,
Starting point is 00:22:33 connecting with the language of math. They couldn't dumb it down anymore. It's math for dummies. It's like aliens speak for dummies. And we're still not getting it. We're trying, right? We're trying. Oh my gosh. That's such a good point. I didn't think of that. It just popped into my head and I started thinking, wow, this all connects. And it always does, right? Unintentionally. We don't try to make these connections. It just, it ends up happening. And that's when, that's when you know that you're really onto something, when you have these inadvertent connections. And I think that's why I call. all these episodes of Journey? Because I feel like we go on this journey together. We do. We do.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Where we find these things out, kind of, you know. But now I know it's kind of been a real mind-melter so far. But just consider this one last fact about how the pyramid lines up perfectly with a possible indication towards space travel when you bring in all the numbers. Think about this here real quick. If you take the location of the Great Pyramid as a coordinate, this number sequence of this coordinate matches exactly the speed of light traveling through space measured in meters per second, this is amazing stuff. When you consider the vast amount of information about the earth that's encoded
Starting point is 00:23:45 into the gray pyramid, you can't just dismiss all of this as pure coincidence. Boom. Yeah. I love the sound effect. Ancient aliens uses. Of course, Giorgio there. Sickle's there. We love him. We always get him credit for some of the sound that we come across. to help explain some of these things with you. I think he's Greek, but he grew up in Switzerland. Is that right? Yeah. How about that?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I tried to get him on the show one time. Oh, he should. Yeah, that'll be fun. Boy, how much fun would that be, right? I know. It would be an extended edition of UAP. Pick his brain. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But, no, so I really go back to some of the things you talked about there because it's amazing stuff. When you stop to think about this, how does this one structure have so many different properties to it? Right. How did the ancient Egyptians have all the specific knowledge? I mean, someone or something with a higher knowledge, you would think. I mean, this is just me theorizing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You can disagree, but they must have been given some pointers on all this. Well, you know, the ruler Toth, right? He looks like an alien. Right? He's super tall. He's got the almond eyes and the weird shape head. And we see some of those depictions with Akhenaten as well. We've talked about in past episodes.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So, I mean, what is it? What is it that they're trying to tell us? Because to me, It seems, I know you probably agree, Karen, it seems undeniable that there's something going on here. And they used very specific math to accomplish their goal and put it all in the structure of the pyramid, which we're still trying to figure out today. Yeah, was it a power plant? Right. What was its purpose?
Starting point is 00:25:19 Why is it lined up with True North? Why is it all these certain specifications that add up to the speed of light, that add up to, you know, when you put into measurements different way of the Earth, it adds up to the day? of the year. All right. I mean, it's just... And the three of them in that configuration is the Orion's belt. I mean, so there's just so much. And again, I know I apologize.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't mean to keep covering the pyramid and everything, but there's just so much to uncover, no pun intended, when it comes to talking about the pyramid and the messages that have been encoded in this thing, someone's trying to tell us something. And it's specific with the way that it was built to give us an indication that this was no accident. It was built to certain dimensions for a reason, and here we are. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Pay attention. We need to all. But see, some are paying attention and some aren't. And until we all pay attention at the same time, we're just not going to get it. Yeah. And I get it. Look, we all... We're all busy doing our day-to-day stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Sure. You know, I mean, and I'm the... And there's a bigger picture from 50,000 feet. And that's fine. I'm not saying you have to go into, you know, constant meditation by any means and throw away your life and things like that. And look, we... Karen and I do it. We have many different tasks throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You know, I get distracted with kids and with sports and with all these things. Sure. We're all in the same boat. You get stuck in traffic. You yell at the guy who just cut you off. You know, listen, we all get in the same boat. But it's important sometimes, even if it's just right now as you listen to the podcast to just consider what else is going on. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:49 What am I missing? What breadcrumbs am I missing? All right. So how else could aliens be using math right in front of our faces to try to communicate with us? Well, you may recognize this next subject as well, because like the pyramids, we've never considered it from this perspective before. And that's why we're bringing up once again the NASCAR Incan lines and their famous giant shapes in the desert. We all know about it. But did you know that this phenomenon is not unique to the Incan's?
Starting point is 00:27:20 There were other ancient geoglyphs. Almost everywhere around the world, we find what are known as geoglyphs. whether they be the NASCAR Lions in Peru, British geoglyphs, to those in the Middle East. There's something that are virtually universal around the world, and they've been appearing for many hundreds of years. Yeah. And so consider that, right? Because petroglyphs, now those are similar to geoglyphs. It's basically you call it like symbolic knowledge that was shared around the earth.
Starting point is 00:27:53 They're just smaller. It's a different scale. You know, something you would call maybe not cave paintings, but, you know, sculptures or carvings, I guess I should say carvings into rock. Right. So, and we've seen those before, different ruins or, you know, different caves, any different type of culture. Even in the Grand Canyon, these things are carved into caves. They have, like, and there's whole tunnels and, like, with spirals and, like, our galaxy-looking kind of carvings. Yeah, that's pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:28:21 So that makes you wonder right there. Yeah. Now, admittedly, not every. geoglyph is some type of shape. If you're familiar with, you know, the NASCAR lines, then you would know that there are many different designs carved into the desert floor. You have different, you know, animals. You know, you got the big monkey-looking design in there.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Then there's like an alien astronaut-looking thing. Yeah, it's like a spaceman design, which we've talked about before. Why are they only visible from the air, though? Why would they spend all this time? Right. I mean, you'd have to have the whole village come down to do it. That's right. They just uncover, they take the dirt off the top, and then the white.
Starting point is 00:28:55 underground shows through from the air. I mean, why waste their time? We don't know for sure what ancient peoples were trying to communicate through geoglyphs, but the most important thing is the amount of time and effort that went into building them. They're not quick sketches. There are many of them whole community projects. And the time that you spend working along is time not spent gathering food, not spent defending your land. It's time not spent looking after your children. So the first thing that they communicate is to the community itself, what is important to the community? Yeah, and it's a good point.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I was going to say before our friend interrupted me there, as that it's, you think about these carvings all over the world, and they're all the same, which is to say that they're made to be seen from the sky. So think about, if you get stuck on an island, okay, you are going to make something. that's big enough to be visible from an airplane flying over. Right. You're going to make SOS. You're draw a huge S and a huge O and a huge S in the sand. Build a big fire. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So that way it can be visible from the air. So someone flying over and see it. That's the only reason why you'd make something so big on the ground that can't be appreciated from the perspective of standing on the ground. So therefore they must have had knowledge, I'm saying people of earth, of things that were flying around in the air. You would think so. Or other beings or the things that could see from above.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Right? You would think so. Right. I mean, that's just a theory. You know, you could say maybe they just held these carvings in such high esteem that they wanted to make them huge. I don't know. Maybe a skeptic would say that and that's fine.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And those are all possibilities. But it really is, there's some type of communication going on here, especially, too, with these shapes because we've talked about before. Again, you know, the NASCAR lines. But they have these perfect geographic shapes that are in the sand in the desert. So it makes you wonder why do they have these different shapes as well, right, in the desert? These are perfectly carved geographic, I guess you could say, just, you know, shapes that are in the desert. Well, and we did an episode on hotspots.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. Where the hotspots are, that's where these geoglyphs and these pyramids, everything shows up. So it's just they're chosen for a reason. So you have the math in the pyramid, right? There's specific measurements that add up to, again, the days of the year, to the speed of light, to north to south pole, perfect measurement with the cubits and the stone that make up the great pyramid of Giza. So you have all this math that's undeniable. Okay, math is undefeated.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's right. It's in there. The message is there. What does it mean? Does it just mean that they're trying to tell us that, hey, we made this because. because we were smarter than you, so we're trying to show you everything that this was no accident, or is there
Starting point is 00:31:55 something more to it? Well, they're definitely smarter than us. We know that. And where they get the knowledge? And we're the dummies down here going and we're still trying to figure it out, right? And it's right there. And so the same thing here with the geoglyphs. Right. Especially, you know, in NASCA as well, it's not just animal shapes or space man shapes. They have these geographic shapes
Starting point is 00:32:15 that means something, just like we talked about with sacred geometry, that means something. It's a message to someone or something that are no accidents. I mean, and there's the lines and the carvings are, and the edges are perfect. Right. And they remain perfect to this day. Have you seen that weird rock that was found near Roswell because I think we're moving on to another crazy thing other than the Naska lines about,
Starting point is 00:32:41 it's controversial, but crop circles, right? Sure. But that weird rock was found near Roswell, like years after. crop circles. In 2004, a mysterious rock was found near the Roswell crash site, bearing the same image as a crop circle that was discovered in Chiseled in England on August 2nd, 1996. Now explain that one. And that's so weird. This rock is so weird. They extraded. It had, they couldn't recreate it. They tried. Right. But they couldn't recreate this rock and had the same image as this crop circle that was over in England. And if you've never seen this rock, I'll try to.
Starting point is 00:33:18 to explain it, but also put it on our blog on 850WFTL.com. We search podcasts in there. You'll see UAP. And we'll have a picture of this rock, really a video talking about it. It looks like a pebble, okay? It looks like a pebble you would buy it, maybe put on your front long garden or something. A pet rock. It looks like a pet rock with a little image on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And the image is, it kind of looks like it's geometry, like two crescent moons and two circles. So it's kind of hard to explain So you'll have to see it on the blog But like that says there And the reason why we bring this up Is because our next subject here is crop circles It is controversial Some have been known to be hoaxes
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Starting point is 00:36:07 And this crop circle that matches this rock that was found at Roswell. I know. kind of weird, right? It is. Talk about coincidences. That may not be coincidences. What does, what do these symbols mean? And why was that rock with this symbol found at Roswell?
Starting point is 00:36:22 After the crash. On the Roswell rock, you have an almost identical symbol in England. To me, it's very fascinating because it essentially shows that they're trying to somehow communicate with us. So the idea is that perhaps some of these crop circles. Indeed, are messages from elsewhere. And elsewhere, in my opinion, means of extraterrestrial origin. All right. So you really start to consider what we started talking about here at the beginning of the episode,
Starting point is 00:36:57 which is communication, messages, these glaring, blinking lights that have been thrown at us. Hello. For hundreds of thousands of years. Pay attention, little people. And crop circles, I think, are one of those messages. I mean, you talk about things again, you know, maybe you can only see, get the grand scale from the sky. But it's just, it's, they're put right there. It was interesting because in a future episode, we're going to talk about music and sound.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah. I postulated that crop circles could possibly be formed by sound. It's possible. And that'll connect, you're right, Karen, in a later episode. Yeah. You'll hear it's pretty amazing stuff. Sound makes the most amazing geometrical shapes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 And how else are they, you know, okay, some people say it's a farmer out there with a rope and a piece of board. No. Not all the time anyway. I mean, these are beautiful if you look at them. Speaking of beautiful, you know, math can be beautiful sometimes, Karen. It is. So how about a beautiful mind? That's right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So how about a crop circle that adds up to pie? Would you believe this? No. All right, well, listen to this and tell me what you think. One formation had everyone baffled and people were saying, well, Well, what is this? Then a mathematician had a look at it and said, wait a minute. That's a representation of pi.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And it's correct down to 10 decimal places. It's a representation of pie in a geometric sense. It's kind of interesting, because the way you get pie out of it is the lengths of the different arcs in each segment. And what happens is there's these little notches in the spiral that let you know you're at the end of an arc. So you actually have to measure the arc. lengths as you go around and their links give you the digits of pie and there's a little circle to
Starting point is 00:38:48 give you the decimal point so it's a really interesting example of using geometry as a code for representing digits and numbers thank you to nick pope there i mean another great mind when it comes to the ufo and uap and alien community would love to get him on the show one time too he's he's great he knows a lot to been around a long time in this field but other than that just a little background on this incredible little message that was found this crop source Circle appeared in 2008 in England near what's called Barbury Castle, which is an Iron Age Hill Fort above a village named Routen in Wiltshire. So in short...
Starting point is 00:39:23 I think it's Wiltshire. Wiltshire? I'm sorry to our English listeners. You probably say Worcestershire too. Probably. Actually, I know I do. I'm sorry to our English listeners. I know you're out there.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I'm too American. I'm sorry. That's right. Yes. But in short, it's literally in the middle of nowhere. So if you're in England, you know, you might know the area we're talking about. it's you know it's it's an open space we'll say but it was actually found in a barley field and it measures 150 feet wide this crop circle and it's a big one and it's like you mentioned
Starting point is 00:39:52 beautiful this thing is absolutely gorgeous i mean it's perfect edges and when you hit these notches that they were talking about in the video and you go to each one and each one you go around in this circle spiral okay remember we're talking about the spirals last week with the golden ratio and all those things the fiber notching numbers when you go around this spiral in this crop circle it adds up to pie you get the digits of pie no oh no you won't if you have to see this video i'll put up the clip of this as well on our uip blog um right there on 850 wftl dot com and you can see it it's it's quite fascinating i mean we talk about these crop circles and all these structures that we've been talking about you have to see this thing to uh to believe it really
Starting point is 00:40:33 yeah but now going back real quick to some of these petroglyphs and geoglyphs who we're talking about before Because remember I mentioned the, I don't mean to like jump around and confuse you here, but it's an important point to make when I talked about some of the geometry that was involved in some of these, you know, NASCAR lines even. It's undeniable when you start to consider what's actually in the ground. When you take a deeper look at these things, you'll realize how this all connects. Yeah, whether it's a crop circle, a geoglyph or a petroglyph, it all has to do with math. We see certain symbols recurring again and again. There are many geometric forms. These take the form of spirals, of concentric rings,
Starting point is 00:41:21 and other more rectilinear or abstract designs. There's something that are virtually universal around the world. One of the most interesting geoglyphs that you have at Nosca is the Sun Star Cross geoglyph, which is really a very complicated, huge mandala of interconnected stars and triangles and something we see all over the world in Tibet and India as mandolas and even yantras. So things like this that are so geometrically complicated
Starting point is 00:41:52 and are found all over the world indicates that there was some kind of worldwide symbolic language that was brought here by a higher intelligence, probably extraterrestrials probably we're theorizing but again this stuff is not
Starting point is 00:42:11 an accident it's not coincidence this was used for communication okay this is a language it's just like if you wrote SOS on an island right it's communication so when you're putting
Starting point is 00:42:22 these perfect geometric shapes in the sand that can only be seen from the sky you're talking to somebody but it's what confuses me maybe you can help me is you've got the binary ones and zeros, the computer language that we think they also speak. And then you've got
Starting point is 00:42:40 all this other mathematical language. There's different, maybe those are like French, German, and English to them. Hey, look, it's as good a theory as anything else. Why not? I know. But so consider all of that, right? You know, skeptics would say that it's all for different reasons or maybe there are hoaxes or something like that, especially with crop circles. See how this all kind of comes together. Math is everywhere in these things and it's being used to speak. You're circling back. I am circling back with the crop circles. How do you like that? So many of these sites, just like the geoglyphs found around the world, exhibit perfect geometric shapes, including, but not limited to, some of the main shapes of sacred geometry, like the Mandala,
Starting point is 00:43:20 we were talking about right there. We spoke about those last week. The spirals, the tetrahedrons, the lotus flower design. You can find all these things. So again, the similarities between these are very striking. To make these, you have to have knowledge of math. Mathematics is of course the universal language. If we ever encounter aliens, they're not going to speak English or French or German. We'll speak and we'll communicate via mathematics. Could crop circles, as some believe, be an attempt from an alien civilization to reach out and communicate with us?
Starting point is 00:43:59 There's a consistent amount of sacred geomical. geometry, tetrahedrons, cubes, octahedrons, and even more complex geometric patterns. Many of our best and top scientists are now saying that this geometry is the secret keys to the higher dimensions, and it's right there in the crops, as if they're giving us a trail of breadcrumbs, showing us how to get to the next level as a planet. Hello. There it is. That's what we've been saying.
Starting point is 00:44:30 There it is. We've spent two weeks now specifically on this subject of communication and using all these different means, whether it's the sacred geometry that's the golden ratio that's literally within our blood and our DNA structure. It's all over the world with the spirals and how everything all connects to now crop circles and the geometry of the NASCAR lines and the math and the pyramid. It's just it all connects. It all literally adds up. Yep, it does. You can't deny it. No, right?
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, no. I mean, are we wrong about this? I don't know. I mean, it's up to you, dear listener. You tell us. Yeah, that's true. And you could always find us on Twitter at UA podcast 850. I always forget our Twitter handle.
Starting point is 00:45:14 At UA Podcast 850 on Twitter. You can always send us messages there. We love feedback. We've got some feedback for you before, and we always appreciate that. So if you always want to find us there, you can. But it's just, man, this stuff is really something, isn't it? It really is. It's eye-opening.
Starting point is 00:45:29 When we first decided to do the podcast, it was, you know, going to be about aliens. But then we just started going off on different tangents, but everything continues to connect. Right. It's all happened organically. Yes. Organic life and matter. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Anyway, we'll do it all again next week. That's our music there to get out. It's episode 42 next week where I guess you can say we'll go more down the traditional route, if you want to say that. Abductions. Why do they always happen in spots like in the farms? Well, guess what? In the forest.
Starting point is 00:45:59 In the forest. Well, they don't. No. We're going to go over someone that were very public. Yeah, surely there's other witnesses to alien abductions. Sure, right, you would think.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah. And, well, there are. We'll hear from them. And we're going to talk about all those next week on UAP. After we've discussed and digested what the aliens are trying to tell us through math and all these different structures and all these things throughout the world,
Starting point is 00:46:23 it's really, really incredible how all this added up, so to speak. But until next time on episode 42, is Karen Curtis there. Stephen Dean are here. Talk to you again next time on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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