UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 10: Ancient Alien Mysteries part 2
Episode Date: September 3, 2021Part 2 of this special series continues to explore the ancient alien mystery. Were the Pyramids really built to be used as tombs? what's under the Sphynx? And what's the deal with that underw...ater pyramid off the coast of Japan? We break down all this and more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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All right.
Welcome in to episode 10, the landmark episode of UAP,
the Unidentified Alien Podcast.
Stephen Dean are over here.
Karen Curtis there.
How are you, Karen?
I'm well.
You know, I'm hearing UAP all the time now.
You know, we were trying to decide what to name the podcast,
and you came up with this UAP idea
because that's the new name for UFOs.
Right.
And I'm hearing it all over the place now.
It is funny, isn't it?
How that kind of works out.
I guess we made a good choice, didn't we?
Yes, you did.
So that's good.
Very smart.
I think I want to correct myself.
I think last week I said the wheel was invented in 400 BC.
Yeah, I think we said.
said that and that's wrong that's all right though we missed a zero what happens it was
but how do they know when crap was invented ah you know carbon dating with things they find who
knows well i just have to say that google says the wheel was invented in fourth century bc but that's 400
bc but wikipedia says it was invented in 4500 bc i think wikipedia is right and google is wrong
so it's not my fault but
That's the question.
One of the questions we're going to talk about today in our special part two of ancient aliens,
our ancient alien series that we started last time in episode nine,
when we talked about all the different things that we did in episode nine.
And now here we are in episode 10, which again is our landmark episode.
And we thought, well, why not?
By the way, 10th anniversary is 10.
Oh, how about that?
Which is also interesting because maybe 10 was used in some of these structures.
But so we thought, why not in a landmark type of episode, let's do like a special two-part series.
So today is part two of our ancient alien series, and then we'll move on from there to greener pastures.
But there's so much to cover that we didn't get the cover in part one, which is why we wanted to split it up.
I think that everything we're talking about from last week's episode to this one, it's a roadmap left by aliens for us to understand technology and to understand things that we need to.
to create or to make happen in order for us to evolve.
It could be.
I mean, you know, that's one of the theories.
And if you're ignoring these things, then you're an idiot because everything is there for you
to go, uh, pretty much.
I mean, it's hard to explain different hieroglyphics and, you know, and sculptures and carvings
that depict what look like beings that are not human or.
different vehicles that don't look like something from ancient Egypt.
Maybe we put it that way.
People look like astronauts in these hieroglyphs.
Then you've got stones placed in such a way that we could never even engineer it today.
Right.
Yeah, pretty much.
And you need to go, you need to start questioning this stuff, like the pyramids.
At least question it.
So I think we have, what, pyramids on?
In Giza.
On deck today?
Yeah, they were built for religious purposes, Stephen.
Sure.
The Egyptians were one of the first civilizations.
to believe in the afterlife.
This is so interesting.
They believed that we all had a second self called the Ka.
Right.
That lives within each one of us.
And when your physical body dies, the Ka enjoys eternal life.
So that's where they put all the stuff in their tombs so that when their car goes out,
it's got a chariot like King Tut's tomb.
Right.
He had all kinds of stuff.
So that was their idea of a soul, essentially.
Correct.
And which, you know, it is interesting to look back on this.
When you start to look at the ancient alien type of theories and history, if you will,
you do find some interesting things about, you know, ancient Egypt and whatever it might be.
They're like, oh, I didn't know that was going on.
Yeah, well, now they're all brown, the pyramids, but at one time they do believe, you know,
they match the Libyan Desert.
Do you know there's something called Libyan Desert Glass?
Interesting, no.
It's actually the breastplate of King Tut had a desert glass scale.
garob carved on it.
And it's made out of desert glasses.
When the lightning strikes, the sand turns the desert to glass.
Right.
That's true.
George Bush.
That's right.
But anyway, so back in their heyday, they think that the pyramid sparkled because they
think they were encased in highly polished white limestone.
And when the sun hit them, they shimmered.
And then they were supposed to have a gold cap at the top.
Right, right.
All that's gone.
Yeah.
So all that's gone.
gone, so it makes you wonder again, you know, really the ancient question is, how were these things done?
And why were they done?
Maybe because we've been asking for centuries, how are these built?
Why would you build these things?
Right.
Well, they said the massive pyramid was built for the Pharaoh Kufu, which I think would be a great cat's name, Kufu.
That is a good cat name.
Yeah, Kufu.
And it was finished around 2560B, C.E, which would be before common era, not before Christ, because they have to just erase Christ from everything.
Yeah, pretty much.
But he's the big guy.
And it's the only marvel of the original seven wonders of the ancient world that's still intact.
No colossus of Rhodes?
What happened?
The guardians of Babylon?
Those are gone?
What's going on here?
I know.
So it's, now, I will throw a theory out for you here, Karen.
I'm just going to throw it out there.
You can throw it right back at me.
I'm going to.
Yes, you probably will.
I have heard different theories that the pyramids were not built for religious reasons,
that they were actually built as structures from the help of the people.
alien civilizations using
anti-gravity technology
as either monuments
toward themselves
or using alien
technology for the purposes
of building a power plant.
So I have heard different theories
that are very interesting and I know you have
some
proof here if you will or at least
some things to think about as to how
these might have been power plants because they have
found different
caverns and different hollow
parts by doing x-rays.
New chambers have been discovered. Yes, these
new chambers that would make you think,
well, are these chambers for the dead
or were these giant chambers
filled with water at one point
that they were using... Yes, because
there's so much water in the Libyan Desert.
Listen, when you have aliens helping you
out, the possibilities
are endless, Karen, okay?
I said I was going to throw this out.
You could throw it right back at me if you want. I'm just
telling you what I've heard
is that these were once used
the pyramids where once used its power plants,
which would explain the gold at the top.
Oh, yes, very highly conductive.
And the hieroglyph of the light bulb inside.
That's right.
So it just, it makes you wonder what were really the purposes.
When you really think about, too, how these, the pyramids, it's a known fact,
are lined up with Orion's belt with the three stars that are visible to us today.
And actually, the way they were back then in 2,500 BC.
Exactly.
It's actually coordinates with that sky.
Exactly.
So the new chambers were discovered in the Great Pyramid recently, and it's inspiring, passionate debate between Stephen and myself.
Yes.
Not to mention new conspiracy theories, and of course you think that pyramids were a power plant.
It's just saying it's a possibility.
That's why we do the show, Karen.
But the Russians, you and the Russians are together on this because they created a model of the pyramid to measure.
It's electromagnetic response.
So they created a smaller version, okay?
Right.
And it was used to see how wave energy is scattered or absorbed by the pyramid, and the group tested the interactions with waves of resonant length, ranging from 200M to 600 M.
Okay.
What is M?
I don't know, but it sounds like it means I'm right.
It's my God.
And the pyramid's ability to concentrate energy can be recreated on this nanoscale.
And the researchers say that the same science could be used to create more efficient sense.
and solar cells.
Right.
So in Earth conditions, this could be used for controlling the radio wave propagation and reflection.
Some believe the giant pyramid of Giza was actually a large acoustical device.
Uh-huh.
A great echo chamber.
So either way, something that was being used in my book anyway, by aliens, alien technology being used to create this for a purpose that they wanted us to use it for.
Yeah, by its size and dimensions, this crystal edifice.
created a harmonic resonance with the earth
and converted the earth's vibrational energies
to microwave radiation.
Aha.
So you're talking about Tesla before Tesla?
Yeah.
These were things that he came up with.
Yeah.
Well, that's according to the Russians.
That's according to the Russians.
But, you know, there's a papyrus that was discovered recently
in Wadi al-Jarf.
Of course.
Of course.
It's the oldest papyrus discovered
and it contains within it lines
stressing that the pyramid was just a tomb for the king
and is the only papyrus that talks about building the pyramid
about King Kufu, about managing the pyramid,
and about transporting stones by boat from the Nile to the pyramid.
Either way, there's many argue from Harvard
that the Jews weren't slaves, but I don't know.
Really?
If these pyramids were power plants,
then where is the text that supports it, Stephen?
Maybe it's lost.
And if it was built as a power plant,
where was the kingberry?
Well, it could have been both, right?
I mean, why not?
Maybe he went up into the sky.
Yes, through the gold.
Through the gold.
I don't know.
Look, I'm not saying that these were actually power planes
that the pyramids were actually planned.
It's an interesting thought.
It's really kind of intriguing thing to think about
where if these were just tombs,
if that's all these were, then these are pretty grand tombs.
I mean, and you're talking about,
you know, taking these stones down the Nile on boats.
Look, maybe these were built by human hands.
No alien help, no anti-gravity technology, no electricity, nothing like that.
And these were just tombs built out of good old ingenuity and hard work.
It could be.
But it could also be the other way.
But they're so precise.
Right.
You know, they're the north, south, east, west.
I mean, they're perfectly placed.
And some people say that the pyramids preserve technology and also,
the technology that belongs to the lost continent of Atlantis.
Or were built by aliens who landed from space.
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Now there's another, speaking of that, Karen, there's another theory about the sphinx.
So I don't know if you've ever heard this since we're on the subject of ancient Egypt.
And I have one more theory with ancient Egypt, too, before we move on.
Because it's not all going to be about Egypt, so don't worry.
The sphinx is actually part of the pyramid complex.
The complex.
So there has been a long speculation that there are relics from Atlantis buried under the sphinx.
Yeah.
specifically under one of the front paws of the sphinx.
And there's actually been x-rays done of that area.
And there are caverns under there.
There are, I guess you say, chambers.
And no one knows what's inside.
Because the Egyptian government will not let anybody dig under those things.
It's sacred ground.
And we've never found Atlantis, right?
Well, there's different theories, but not officially now.
So, again, is there some type of ancient technology,
buried under the sphinx that we don't know about?
Are those legends true?
Will it point toward Atlantis?
Will it point toward how these pyramids were built
or some type of other ancient alien civilization?
But the fact of the matter is,
there is whatever it means, I don't know.
It could just be an empty hole in the ground,
but there is a chamber under the sphinx,
under the paws of the sphinx.
And also talk about Akanaten and Nefertiti
because they're the most mysterious.
She was like the most powerful woman in ancient Egypt.
Right.
And she was alongside the fairer.
Akanaten. This was from 1353 to 1336 BC. And he actually took them to monotheism.
That's right. So that's what I've always found them fascinating because you go from, it kind of like with
Constantine. So if you go back to ancient Rome, Constantine in the 300s A.C. was the first, you know,
Roman emperor to say we're moving away from paganism, from, you know, the Roman gods, if you will, to
Christianity. He saw a cross in the sky. Right. So that was. During the first.
a war and they won.
So that's, you know, that's the old story behind it.
The legend of, if you saw the cross in the sky, he was converted.
Now, other skeptics would say he just saw the way things were going, that Christianity
was becoming more popular.
So he decided based off of politics to make Christianity the religion.
But he also selected the books of the Bible.
He took all the powerful women out and made us look like hookers.
So they say.
Yeah.
So, but we don't know.
But what we do know is that like Constantine, when he did that in 300, it was a big thing,
or 325 in that area.
And he established a calendar around Jesus' birth.
Right. So a lot changed during Constantine's reign, with Constantinople and things like that that you hear about, which I believe is modern day Turkey, if I'm not mistaken.
I've been there, by the way.
Have you?
I've been to, I was in Croatia and Bosnia, Herzegovina right as it split.
Really?
And it became, Croatia became its own country.
Right.
I got stuck inside the country.
Oh, my.
That's the whole thing.
But I crossed over into Turkey to meet this woman Mara who lived in a, like a stone hut.
with no electricity.
So you look at the ruins, some of these things in Turkey and in, you know, in Iraq, in the cradle of civilization.
Right.
They were so much further ahead than in 1994 what Mara was living in with her beeswax candles.
And it just.
And her schlivitz is what they made from the grape skins.
It's like this clear alcohol.
I mean, it was very, very rudimentary.
And like, I went back in time.
So why were they going backwards is the question?
Yeah.
Things like that.
I don't get it.
And how did they have the technology that they had?
It was such a hard life.
My goodness.
So my point being with Constantine, not to go off track here.
I did.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
It was to point out how rare that is, how much of a big deal that is when an emperor or a king or a pharaoh moves away from one system to another.
Yes.
So that's what Akanaten did.
You move away from the Egyptian gods of, you know, Osiris and Ra and all these different gods where now.
Well, unless you're Henry the 8th because he just wanted to get a divorce.
So he just like, the church of England.
Yes.
And that's basically why he did what he did.
But, you know, that's a different story.
But so you have Akanaten who says, no, we're just going to a system of monotheism where it's the sun god.
Right.
And that's where they started worshipping.
And the thing that made this interesting to me, and I've always found it kind of fascinating with Akanaten is when you look at pictures of him and we'll have different pictures of Akanaten on our UAP blog that you can check out to see what we're talking.
about he looks different than anybody else.
Well, maybe that could be some type of ancient alien.
So when you're thinking about that.
He had a big head, right?
A very big elongated head, elongated jaw, just very big outstanding facial features that...
And those al-Madi eyes.
Right.
These facial features that you didn't see before in ancient Egyptian, I guess you could say depictions,
or anything that we see now.
Now you have different cultures, you know, in places in South America.
or in Africa who would use the planks on the side of baby's heads to elongate their heads.
Or they wrap it.
Or they wrap it, things like that.
So we see that in cultures now around the world, but you weren't seen it until Akinaten.
So where did they get that from?
And there's even pictures of them and their baby, who have, forgive me, I don't know who that grew up to be,
but of the baby with the head elongated.
So the theory is that Akinaten went to monotheism because he wanted to worship the sun god.
which was essentially the alien god that he knew and introduced that system into ancient Egyptian culture.
By the way, 17 years she spent on the throne, then Akhenaten died of causes unknown.
Mm-hmm.
Ooh, I rhymed.
That did rhyme.
How about that?
So, by the way, the Ananaki, they're a bunch of deities of the ancient Samarians,
and they are believed to be the offspring of Anankai.
Right.
But the Ananaki, right, are a whole different.
story where did you know did Akhenaten come from the Ananaki that's that you're talking about a whole
separate alien civilization that was living in Egypt because it's at the same time yeah 2350 to
2150 you know did they have a hand in the building of the pyramids so these are all the questions
that are so mysterious and probably will never be found out quite honestly that we're going to
be theorizing about forever what did the Ananaki this this possible alien civilization have a hand
in the pyramids this was Akhenaten you know what did he learn from them
And who were they?
And they were before him because then he was on the throne in 1349.
So did he, you know, was he descended from them, so they say?
And so there's just so many questions, Karen, of these ancient civilizations that are very fascinating because it makes you wonder.
You know, you have all these names and all these depictions in records and in sculptures and things like that.
And the sculptures don't lie.
Well, the oldest of the Ananaki was Anil.
Inl?
Fair enough. Close enough.
The god of air and the chief god of the Sumerian pantheon.
The Samarians believe that until Inliol was born, heaven and earth were inseparable.
So, you know, what was changing their belief system?
Because you think about it, just go back into sort of modern times.
Go back 2,000 years.
What changed the belief system of Jews and pagans?
It was Jesus, right?
Jesus comes to earth.
You start Christianity, that changes a belief system.
So what was changing?
It had to be something tangible.
It had to be something significant for them to change a belief system in ancient Egypt.
What was going on?
Right.
True.
I mean, there's no, nobody comes close to all the information in terms of text and written down history than Jesus.
Right.
Samarians believe that until Anil was born, you had the heaven and earth inseparable and that he
left heaven and earth in two and carried away the earth while his father on carried away the sky.
So he was sent to Earth to search for life-saving gold, which is what we've been talking about.
And these ancient astronauts from the planet Niburu created the first humans as slaves to mine the gold.
So that's, you know, one of those ancient alien theories.
Now, again, that kind of goes in when you start talking about creating the first humans.
now you're talking about
which one is true
Are you talking about?
The missing link?
Well, I mean, are we talking about
Are the Ananaki God?
You know, and we start getting in
some muddy waters, you know,
if God created humans
and how are they Ananaki creating humans?
So there's a lot of muddy waters there
that I'm not trying to dip my toe into right now.
But it's a theory.
Being the good Christian that you are.
Yes, that's right.
I try.
But did you know that ancient sites
like Easter Island, Naska,
all kinds of,
the pyramids of geese,
Eza, they all line in a single great circle.
That's true.
They're all on the same lay lines, which laylines are these different lines that lay, you know, basically that's lay L-E-Y.
Right, that go around the entire Earth and they have special magnetic properties to them.
Apparently, the Great Pyramid, Stonehenge, the stoneheads at Easter Island, the sun and moon pyramids in Mexico.
Right.
All agent mystical sites, churches, temples, henses, no one knows.
knows what a heck a henge is.
Also, I just love the churches in Africa that are buried under the ground.
The, what are they called?
I mean, I know there's a bunch of them over there.
I forget the names.
Lolliebella.
Ah, yes, okay, in Africa, right.
Have you been there?
No.
That's all right, though.
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But you have all these
different
sites.
All around
they're on the lay lines
and in fact
4,000 sites
of historical
and spiritual significance
are found on the grid.
I mean,
come on.
The Irish called them
fairy paths.
Oh.
Germans call them
holy lines.
Greece called them
the sacred roads
of Hermes.
Hermes, yeah.
Hermes.
And the Chinese
call them
dragon currents.
So you have all
of these,
and this is what
I've always found
fascinating too,
Karen,
is you have
all of these
different cultures. I mean, look at all the cultures you name. The Greeks, the Germans, the Irish,
the Chinese, and they all have, and they all knew about the laylines, and they all had different
names for them, and different uses for them, but they all believed and knew that there were certain
spots on the earth that had special properties. And all at the same time, people are building these
pyramids. They're building structures that are similar to other structures on the complete opposite
side of the world that are also on a layline. It's mystifying. How do you know? How do you know?
How do you have Easter Island, which is, I mean, on the other side of the earth?
And it's an island.
And it's an island away from ancient Egypt.
And you're building these giant stone structures that line up with each other.
Yeah.
Not to mention Stonehenge and all the other 4,000 sites we'd talk about.
And they all line up perfectly in this geometric circle on all these different laylines.
And they're all connected.
How and why?
Is that happening?
What did they know that we have decided to ignore?
Ignore or just not find out for ourselves.
And the NOSCA lines, it's a group of very large geoglyphs.
They're made in the soil in the Naska Desert in Peru.
And so they were created like at 500 BC to 500 AD.
And people just scraped away the surface soil on the desert floor.
And apparently the soil underneath, it's lighter.
So when they removed the pebbles, they left this color, different colored earth exposed.
And it's still there to this day.
If you fly over, you see all kinds.
of things. There's like 80 to 100.
Actually, after 2020, they found
8,200 new things, but
there's so many different types
of things. Like,
there's spiders. Yes.
And...
My personal favorite is the giant ant.
Ant, man.
There's trees,
flowers, a monkey, a lizard,
a dog, a cat, a fish,
a condor, a heron,
a human.
Yes.
trees flowers I said
it's just incredible
there is one and it's kind of weird
I don't know you be the judge and we'll put it up there
with the picture of
Aknautin so you can see what we're talking about how his facial features
were much different than everybody else
and another thing you can see on the
UIP blog in 850
I'm sorry wasn't he really tall
he was very tall too that's right it's good point
on 850wFTL.com
I don't think I mentioned I just said UIP blog earlier
I didn't say where to go 850wftl.com
that might help where you can see the UIP
blog. You could also Google search UAP
blog and should come up. Yes, we know how
reliable Google is with when the
wheel was created. But A50
WFTL.com and you can see these
pictures of the NASCAR lines too that we're
talking about if you're not familiar with them.
And one of the more intriguing ones to me,
it kind of looks like a spaceman.
Yes. I mean, you be
the judge, but... Well, the Hopi
Indians did the same thing. Right.
You know, what, Phoenix or wherever on a
side of a mountain. That's right. It looks
just like the NASCA guy.
There are caves, if we want to talk about more ancient alien things.
There are caves, because believe it or not, folks, there was in America before we came here, you know, in the 1400s, 1500s, 1600s as the first settlers started coming in Jamestown.
Yeah, that we know of.
Yes.
There was an America before them, believe it or not.
And we did have Native Americans who were here for thousands of years.
Yes.
And one thing that has been found that...
Especially the Seminoles here in Florida.
Right.
One thing that has been found that the Grand Canyon that no one is allowed to go into, for one reason or another, there's different caves inside the Grand Canyon that have these depictions inside the caves pointing back to ancient civilizations.
And just like in Egypt, very strange carvings of figures that are unexplained.
I'll bet there's scrolls in there too.
Yeah, maybe.
What's really interested about the Naskolines is that they run straight across the landscape.
So you've got the figurative designs of animals and plants, but then you've got these straight lines.
And then you also have like a plateau where something could land.
Right.
And all this stuff can only be seen from above.
Yes, I was just about to say that.
And at the time, we didn't have any capability.
So why are they building this thing that big?
So you have to think in terms of now.
When we make something now, you're making it because you're basing it off of knowledge that you either have now
or you're making it based off of a necessity, that you know, okay, we need to.
build this
necessity is the mother of all invention, right?
Right.
So why were they, if they're thinking that same way back during the NASCAR lines,
why were they building these, or I should say sculpting these things in the sand that could
only be seen from the air?
Yeah, you look at it on the ground and you can't tell.
How would they know that you can even go up in the air?
Well, the combined length of all the lines is over 1,300 kilometers.
I mean, my gosh.
Yeah.
So if they're building something that you can only see from the sky, there has to
be a reason why they were building it, or I should say structuring it in a way that you could see
it from the sky. Who did they want to show it to? They vary in complexity. It's like a crop circle.
Also, from the ground, you just see some crushed, some grass, you know, crops, yeah.
But these varied in complexity. There's hundreds are simple lines, geometric shapes. More than 70
are zomorphic designs, including a hummingbird and the spider, the fish, the conder, etc.
Others take shapes like trees and flowers, and scholars different in interpreting the purpose of the designs,
but in general, they ascribe religious significance to them.
But still, if you can't see them from the earth, then why?
Exactly.
It's like they always fall back on, oh, it's for religious purposes, the pyramids, and now the NASCAR lines.
Seems like if they don't know, they always fall back on religion.
And again, what was it about it that made them think?
There has to be some type of scenario.
Again, think in modern terms.
It has to be a scenario when you're inventing something.
making something that makes you think, okay, this is going to be seen from here or this
is going to relate to this.
Yeah.
They had to relate it to something.
So what are they relating something that you can only see from the sky when they couldn't
get it up into the sky?
They, I mean, as far as we know, they didn't invent flight.
So who were they showing this to?
I don't know.
It's so weird.
And we need to think about it, you know?
Yes.
Now, you started to tell us last week about the mysterious ancient Japanese pyramid.
So WTF.
So this is really odd.
And we'll close out with this one here today.
The final piece of our ancient alien series part two, because we got something fun.
Well, I mean, it's all fun, but something pretty interesting coming up next week, too, that we'll get to in a minute.
But Japanese pyramids?
So pyramids before the ancient Egyptians, these were being built in Japan.
I'm going to blow you out of the water on this one, but go ahead.
So you're talking about pyramids that were, what, $10,000?
years ago, well before ancient Egypt, I mean, like 5,000 years before ancient Egypt, where they're
talking about remains that are found underwater in Japan.
Suburged stone structures lying below the waters off of Yanagumi Jima.
Good.
And you're talking about these structures that are resembling pyramids.
It's the ruins of the Japanese Atlantis.
Yes, which is what they refer to it as.
And this has been found.
So that's why I think Atlantis is real as well, because the Japanese.
Atlantis is real, then why not the other Atlantis?
They said it's sunk by an earthquake 2,000 years ago.
A little less than 10,000 years.
But, I mean, I've heard different reports, too, of like 10,000 years.
And a marine geologist from the University of Japan dove the side,
and he's convinced that it is the lost city of the Japanese Atlantis.
But what I'm going to tell you is that these underwater pyramids are probably the same
thing that's happening with the Hawaiian islands.
Meaning?
The plate tectonics are moving the island slowly, like I think it's an interesting.
inch a year north. The Pacific Ocean is the rim of fire. And so there are these magma spewing holes that come up.
And right now there's one south of the big island creating another island called Loliha.
I've heard of that actually, that there's a new island being created. And I'd like to sell you some land on there.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So the magma spewing hotspot is what's creating it. So these hotspots stay in one place, but the
tectonics move the plates creating.
I mean, these, the islands of Hawaii are actually huge mountains.
True.
Yeah.
They're like the biggest, they're even bigger than Mount Everest.
And you live there.
They're mostly covered.
Yeah, I live there five years.
Right.
Went to school there.
But they're mostly covered with water.
So I'm thinking these pyramids are actually mountains that were over hotspots that have, you know,
gone under the ocean because they've moved north.
Interesting.
It's a theory.
I mean, you know, they talk about them being more stone structures.
and looking like pyramids.
Well, they're saying they have hard angles, but...
Yeah.
And if that's the case, then why pyramids both times?
You know what I mean?
What is it about the pyramid shape that makes the Japanese a few thousand years before
the Egyptians do it, build their own pyramids?
If that's the case, if these are actually Japanese pyramids submerged underwater,
which a lot of people say they are, but it's disputed just like anything else we talk about here.
what is it about the pyramid shape that made ancient civilizations say this is what we've got to build?
Who was telling them that?
Why was it that one that had to be built?
Because, Karen, you even look at different places in South America.
Yes.
I know we talked about like, you know, Puma Punku last week and things like that.
But you look at the Mayan civilizations, they were pyramids.
Aztec, same thing.
Right.
Inks.
Inkins.
What is it?
And these are different civilizations on different parts.
of the world far separated from each other with no way of communicating that we know of.
And they're all building pyramids on light lines.
Exactly.
So I just.
Someone's communicating with someone.
It's very confusing.
And it's intriguing.
It is intriguing.
Which is why we do the show.
You have to ask questions.
I mean, you do.
At least ask questions.
We're not asking you.
And this was the thing that we said from the very beginning of the show.
And by the way, if you ever want to listen to any of the previous shows, if this is your first experience with UAP, the unidentified
alien podcast then you can always go back all the shows are on 850 wftl.com Apple
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can find this podcast you know subscribe and all that good stuff and rate us if you
like it but the one of the first things we said Karen when we started this
podcast was we're not here to say you need to believe in aliens because we
think they're real with the main point of this show is to always present you with
what is out there and let you make up your mind yeah refuted
figure it out for yourself, start looking up more information.
And if you find information, let us know, you know, contact us.
Yeah, you could always do that as well.
How do they contact us?
Oh, through the Akashik record.
Through the laylines.
There is actually a real quick thing.
I mean, you could always write a comment things on the podcast and we'll see that.
But there is actually something interesting too.
I'll say this before I go because we talk about laylines.
In Oregon, there's this actually a tour.
attraction in Oregon, and I forget the city for the life of me.
I can't remember the name of the city.
But there's like this park in the woods where it's a layline hotspot.
Really?
And all of these different...
They all cross.
And there's a center point in these woods in Oregon where a lot of tourists come to check it out.
And it's so magnetic that there's all these different weird things that happen.
So if you put a compass there, it goes crazy, obviously.
if you stand on this plank of wood that they have set up,
if you put, let's say I'm standing there and you stand to my right,
you're going to be taller than you are when you're standing on my left.
Oh my God.
I mean, strange stuff.
They actually have this house that someone built and everything is sideways.
Have you ever seen the Wonderworks building in Orlando?
It's kind of like that where you're actually facing down.
So like you're standing at a decline, but you're not falling.
And you can lay back and there's,
so much magnetism that you will not fall. Like you actually get pushed back up by the magnetism.
I mean, you can look it up. This is real. It's a spot in Oregon where all these laylines cross.
It's called the Oregon vortex, Stephen. It's apparently located in Sardine Creek and Gold Hill, Oregon.
It consists of a number of interesting effects, which are Gravity Hill optical illusions.
The Oregon side also exhibits phenomena similar to those perceived by visitors at the mystery spot
located outside of St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Odd angles create an illusion of objects seemingly rolling uphill.
In fact, the Oregon Vortex was featured in the 1999 episode of The X-Files.
And also strange about that is there's no animals around it.
No.
They all sleep away.
You know, when there's a storm, they like go hide and fly away and whatever.
They know what's going on.
I mean, there's been different stories of animals knowing when an earthquake is going to happen.
Yes, yes.
Especially birds.
There's no animals around this area in Oregon.
I was going to say it's a great place to take a honeymoon.
Yeah, right?
For different reasons.
Book it. Oh, my goodness.
Good news.
What are we doing next week?
Next week, yes, we have ended our two-part series, but this was fun.
A lot of good stuff.
Yeah, make up your own minds.
We just give you the info.
We just make up our own stuff.
That's kidding.
But next week, we're going to go back to modern day.
You would not believe how many pilots, air traffic controllers,
people on airplanes from the past 60, 70 years,
these stories of pilots and air traffic controllers who have seen things on radar
and seeing things while they're flying and they were sworn to secrecy
and the people who broke that secrecy lost their jobs.
Really?
This is...
Well, now, I mean, as of the last year, the government,
come out and say basically aliens are real
and UFOs are real or UAPs.
That's right.
So now I wonder how those people feel
who lost their jobs.
Right.
There's one in particular
that we'll get to next week
from O'Hare Airport in Chicago,
which is one of the busiest airports
in the country and in the world, quite frankly,
that was a mass sighting at O'Hare
caught on air traffic control,
recordings and everything.
There you go.
So this is pretty wild.
My daughter's father, my ex-husband,
his dad flew for Pan Am.
That tells you how long ago that was.
out of Miami to Europe.
And he says he saw a spaceship
when he was leaving MIA
out over the ocean, came up beside him,
you know, and then took off really quick,
but they couldn't talk about it.
Exactly. All these guys sworn to,
there's so many stories in that,
and all of them sworn to secrecy too.
So check out that subject in UAP,
the Unidentified Alien Podcast,
episode 11 coming up next time.
And don't forget to download,
subscribe, rate us,
find all the past shows like we said,
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850WFTL.com and look at the UAP blog while you're on 850's website.
Yeah, put all the pictures and videos and everything up there.
Very cool.
Thank you, Stephen.
Thank you, Karen.
And thank you all for joining us and listening.
Looking forward to next week as well.
And hope you are too.
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