UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 107 Secret Orb Sightings & Trump Drone Statement Reaction

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

An orb formation that stopped missiles from flying towards Israel? And what do we make of the statement on the "drones" from the Trump administration? Stephen Diener reports and reacts on all... of that, and more, during another jam packed episode of UAP...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:23 It seems like there is something happening every single day, almost to the point where I should be doing one of these episodes every single day. So we'll see how many I can crank out these days as we try to keep up with all of the news and current events. And that's what we're going to try to do today. It's going to be a little bit of a mix. of things actually. And what I like to call orbs, USOs, and drones here in this episode
Starting point is 00:01:46 107 because we're going to touch on all three of those craft, if you will. That said, I don't mean to bury the lead, as they say. I obviously understand that the thing that everybody is talking about after yesterday afternoon is the press conference there from the new White House press secretary Caroline Levitt where she started it off in her first press conference by giving the statement
Starting point is 00:02:10 about the drones from President Trump. So that will be something that we tie in together here with the rest of this episode. And we're going to get to that later on because there is a lot to unpack with that. So we're going to tie all this together and start off with these stories first because this is exclusive to UAP what you're about to hear. These stories about these orb incidences that have been seen last year, this is really going to peak your interest when it comes to what we've seen. just with the reports about the MH370 video and things like that. A lot of these orbs acted like that. So I'm going to get into those stories so you know what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And then we're going to move through the U.S.O portion, connect that with what's happening in the political discourse side of things with the drones because there is a lot to unpack there. But starting with the orbs, I'm going to go into a story that I've been talking about for the past I don't know, two or three weeks on UAP here. And I've kind of been alluding to it teasing in a little bit because I wanted to make sure I had all the details. If you weren't following along on Twitter yesterday, I went on and put out this whole long post, kind of describing these three separate incidences where incredible occurrences were reported by U.S. military pilots. And so I went down and described those.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And what I want to do now for anybody who wasn't able to read those, I'm going to describe those here, now to start off the show and also go into more detail, even if you did read that post yesterday on X, on Twitter, I'm going to go ahead and elaborate on some of these as well. So at long last, let's get right into it and start with incident number one, as I call it. And this goes back to April of 2024. Now, as far as I know, these have never been reported anywhere else. And if they have been reported somewhere else, then feel free to write me and correct me and say, no, we've heard this before or so-and-so had this on their report or whatever it might be, but I'm almost positive this is nowhere else because of where I got it from. And I'm pretty sure this is an exclusive here
Starting point is 00:04:22 on UAP. So with incident number one, going back again, like I said, April of 2024, U.S. military pilot reported seeing four orbs near the Iraq-Iran border. And these four Orbs came together to form a trapezoid shape. These were not seen on radar. So I want to put that out there as well. This is a visual report, a visual sighting from the pilot who was in the air, giving this report to, you know, mission control, I guess, if you will, and also documenting the report later on.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So this is seen by a pilot who's on mission near the border there between Iraq and Iran. 30 to 40 minutes later on this day in April of 2024, after his initial siting of these orbs coming together to form a trapezoid shape, Iran launched their missile attack on Israel. And if you remember, this was a very, very big deal. It was all over the news, all over world news back in mid-April of 2024 when they launched their missile attack. It was the first time they had ever done this against Israel. And what we didn't know, okay, what we saw in the news was that these missiles,
Starting point is 00:05:36 were stopped almost entirely by the Israeli Iron Dome missile defense system. That was the report. What we didn't know was that, in fact, according to this report that I was given, 50 of those missiles that were sent by Iran toward Israel exploded exactly where the orbs that form the trapezoid shape were a scene. Now, the story, like I said, was that the Iron Dome took them down. but what we weren't told was about these 50 or so missiles that were actually apparently taken down by this trapezoid of these four orbs.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Now, what I don't know and what was not conveyed to me was whether or not these four orbs were still there when the missile attack went off because the pilot reported seeing these orb stationary after they formed this trapezoid formation. So your assumption is as good as mine at that point. Did they create some type of barrier? Is this a complete coincidence? That's 50 or so of these missiles exploded exactly where these orbs were seen. Now, if we're asking, well, how do we know that it was in the same exact spot?
Starting point is 00:06:50 I mean, let's be honest. Obviously, intelligence knows where the missiles exploded and they can match it up with where the pilot said he saw these orbs. So I think that answers that question. but the pilot was not there to see the missiles explode. So we don't know, because he was on a different mission, that wasn't his mission to go search for orbs or anything like that. They're just so happy he came across it at that moment. So we don't know if the orbs were still there at the moment of explosion
Starting point is 00:07:18 of these 50 or so missiles where this trapezoid formation was seen by these four orbs. What we do know is that the four orbs were there in a trapezoid formation, stationary and about half an hour or so later, about 50 or so of the Iranian missiles exploded in that same exact area. So make of that what you will, I believe that out of all the three instances that I'm going to go over here to start off the show, I believe that one has the most gravity to it, the biggest implications. because if we're talking about some type of orb tech here, whether it's NHI or human-related, something happened there. And to me, it can't be a coincidence. That's just my thought on this. It would be a very heavy, heavy coincidence that 50 or so of these Iranian missiles would explode in the same exact area where this trapezoid formation was seen by these four orbs that they created.
Starting point is 00:08:19 that to me is just making way too big of a leap. I could be wrong, but that's just how I see it. So if that's the case, if it is not a coincidence, then there's only two options left. Again, this is official reporting for the military, intelligence report, okay? That was shared with me. So if you choose to believe the validity of this story,
Starting point is 00:08:39 then to me it comes down to two options and what this means. Number one, it's NIH-related, and for whatever reason, these orbs relating to non-human intelligence decided to intervene that night, then that's option number one. Or option number two, this is secret tech being used by either Israel or the U.S., of course, one of the strongest allies of Israel,
Starting point is 00:09:07 and being used that night, knowing that the attack was coming from Iran. And they deployed these orbs in order to try to intercept these missiles, before they got closer to Israel, kind of like a first line of defense before getting to the Iron Dome. That's my read on it. So you can take from it what you will, but the fact is this report is there. This is a real intelligence report.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And since that is the case, it's really incredible to consider the implications of this. Like I said, one way or the other. And if you want to go with option C as a coincidence, then by all means. Or if you want to go with option D and say it's all BS, that's up to you as well. but I'm looking at options A and B.
Starting point is 00:09:50 That's incident number one. Incident number two takes us just a couple weeks after that, actually, late April of 2024. Again, U.S. military. This is a report from a pilot and the air crew who were up in the air that night, again, over Iraq. They reported seeing three to four orbs that were moving erratically until coming together, and they started to rotate counterclockwise around what this was an unknown object. They couldn't make it out. But these orbs were rotating, this is this sound familiar,
Starting point is 00:10:22 rotating around an unknown object. And again, saying, does this sound familiar? It was reported to me as acting very much like the orbs we've seen in the MH370 videos. Of course, Ashton Forbes has been on this show many times, actually just recently. And we know how much that he discusses those videos and has put those out for the past almost couple of years. So when we talk about it, and it's funny actually because the day I spoke with Ashton a few weeks ago in our most recent interview here on UAP, I asked him during the show, I said, do you know of any other incidences like that of MH370 where we're seeing orbs rotating and teleporting something or anything having to do with not only an airplane or a passenger plane, but anything, where orbs are rotating around something. and teleporting it. And he said, no, you know, we haven't seen anything like that.
Starting point is 00:11:21 MH370 is the best example. And I kid you not. And I didn't get to mention this part on Twitter, so I'm happy I get to mention it here on the show, which is why I wanted to elaborate on all these reports that I put out on social media. But I kid you not, about an hour later, after I recorded with Ashton that day,
Starting point is 00:11:40 I get the call about these sightings. So I don't know if someone's listening to my conversations. Or if it was just, you know, cosmic timing, if that's the case, I like to think it's the latter that it's cosmic timing and I'm not being, you know, spied on. But it was just really kind of incredible to get that call and be told these stories about these other MH370-like occurrences when I had just asked that question to Ashton on the show. Now, to be fair, I don't have anything in these stories that tells us that any orbs teleported something. So far in, so that's unique, as far as I know, to the MH370 claims. So in the first story, I didn't, I wasn't told that, you know, those orbs in the trapezoid shape teleported the missiles. It was that the missiles were destroyed.
Starting point is 00:12:36 They exploded in that same spot where the orbs were seen about half an hour earlier. In this story, we're talking about three to four orbs rotating counterclockwise around something, an unknown object. But again, the air crew that was up in the air that night over the Middle East, over Iraq, didn't stick around to see what happened because that wasn't their mission. They were flying on mission. And that wasn't their mission to stay there to see what happened. So we don't know if whatever those orbs were rotating around ended up. teleporting something like we saw in the MH370 videos, if you believe those. So, you know, we have to use our imaginations at that point.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But just to hear that it was something extremely similar to what we seen in those purported videos, it was really quite startling to me when this was presented to me. The third incident, third and final one, happened just about five months later, about four and a half, five months later, mid-September of 2024. So all three of these occurrences happening in 2024. A near identical incident to the one that we just spoke about, actually number two. But instead this time, it was seen over the open waters of the Pacific Ocean. Again, reported by U.S. military pilot.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It's important to note as well that with that one, with incident three, the main difference there, instead of seeing three to four orbs, the pilot in that sighting reported seen up to 10 orbs rotating around something. and the open waters of the Pacific. So that one is even more extreme than incident two. But all three of these taking place within just a few months of each other, two in April, one in mid-September, all three happening last year in 2024. Those are the full reports that I was given. Intelligence reports on those unreported previously,
Starting point is 00:14:34 exclusive here to UAP. Really incredible stuff, really fascinating. And the fact is that, you know, as Ryan Graves has said before, he's talked about this on many shows, many interviews. Pilots are seeing these things a lot, whether commercial or military or private. They're seeing these things. They're seeing these orbs a lot. And a lot actually happens off the coast of Florida, where I live here. So probably even more of these things are happening, and they're just not either, A, getting reported or B, being related to anybody.
Starting point is 00:15:07 So it's really kind of remarkable to consider the implications of this and to think about that this is not unique. These things are not unique. This isn't the first time reports like this or sightings like this have happened and it's not going to be the last. So we're going to continue to watch out for these things and see what happens next. What other reports are out there that we've never heard about before? But the fact is these three are confirmed reports through military intelligence. so do with that what you will. But I was like, whoa, the past few weeks,
Starting point is 00:15:40 I've again been gathering information on it, wanted to make sure I had everything correct because I thought these were pretty high-level stuff and I didn't want to get any of the facts wrong. So that's where we're at with those orb incidents that I've been kind of alluding to the past couple weeks. I hope I didn't disappoint you. So that's the official word on those.
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Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, I'm going to have to continue to look into that and see if we hear anything more about that, but that one continues to stick with me. It's pretty incredible. But on to the next subject, which is the U.S.O side of the story, unidentified submerged objects. They don't get brought up a whole lot these days because there's so much else going on when it comes to, you know, the orbs, the egg-shaped UAPs, the tic-tacks, which, by the way, some people are even saying that maybe they're all the same thing. just a quick side note the orbs the eggs shaped uh uap's the tic Tacs maybe they're all the same type of craft but they're being um I don't know maybe mixed up one looks like the other and depending on the angle it's hard to tell which one is which especially with the egg and the
Starting point is 00:19:16 tick tack that's just a theory but I just wanted to kind of put that out there as a as a side note but when it comes to the USO that's something that is not seen a lot because it's underwater hence the name unidentified submerged object and it's really something that has been spoken about when it comes to is this the origin of these UFOs? You know, when a U.S.O becomes a UFO after it comes out of the water, these transmedium craft, leaving the water going into the air. And a lot of people have brought up, including myself, the theory, the idea that this could be the origin of these craft that we see flying in the air, any type of shape, no matter what it is, the egg, the orb, the, the, the, the tic-tacac. cigar-shaped classic saucer or a giant one the size of a football field.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yes, that's right, like Tim Burchett was speaking about. So Timberchette, of course we all know him, Congressman from Tennessee, on the UAP Disclosure Caucus. He was on with Matt Gates, former congressman here from Florida. Of course, he still is big. And when he was in Congress, he was big on this discussion. So now he's having the discussion outside of Congress on his own show that he does had on his old buddy Tim Burchett to discuss it. And while he was on with Matt Gates,
Starting point is 00:20:33 Burchett discussed the idea of U.S.Os and related a story about one the size of a football field. Listen to this. When they tell me something's moving at hundreds of miles an hour underwater and our capabilities are, I don't think we have anything in order to do 40 miles an hour. This one was, it was large as a football field underwater. And this was a documented case. And I have an admiral telling me this stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And it just to me, I think. So that's where you think the bases are is underwater, then, because of those reports. I do. I do. I just think traveling light years. I think it happens. I think it's possible. So could this all connect, again, when it comes to any type of craft, whether it's
Starting point is 00:21:14 something that's 100 yards long, which is an unbelievable story from Timberchette? I mean, as far as I know, we don't have, or anybody, any country has something that can go, you know, 100 miles per hour under the water. that's the size of a football field. Again, you're talking 100 yards long, 300 feet, however you want to break it down. That's unfathomable, quite honestly. And then you connect it with the thought that there could be bases under the water. Now, we've spoken about this before.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's not a revolutionary idea. There's been a lot of different areas that have even been suggested, whether it's in the Pacific. Okay? You just talked about that with those 10 orbs that were circling something seen by the military pilot or off the coast of California by Catalina. A lot of people have suggested that area because of some topography maps that have been seen where we see some different structures under the water.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Pretty fascinating stuff there. Or anywhere else around the world, maybe by Antarctica out towards Europe. So a lot of these, or even in the Atlantic off the east coast of the United States, a lot of different areas have been suggested for possible places where underwater, basis could be for UFOs, in this case U.S.Os. And this isn't, again, unique when Tim
Starting point is 00:22:31 Bichette is talking about this. I mean, Tim Galadette has mentioned this, and he's told the stories. He was in front of Congress talking about these types of stories. So when we discuss whether it's the or the or the arcs circling or the tic-tacks, it seems like they all go together because they have to come from somewhere. So to Timberchette's point, and he went on to say in the rest of the clip, you know, if these things are traveling, say, say they are coming from a different star system. Maybe it's the Zeta reticulized star system, okay, just for an example. And they're coming from there and it's a long distance, right? Light years away. Then why would you end up going back and forth, right? It's almost like if you're going to a friend's house or, you know, a family
Starting point is 00:23:15 member and you got to take a five-hour flight to get there. Are you going to leave the same day? Most likely now, you're probably going to spend a couple of nights because you just had a long travel. be, you know, you take a new job in a different state. You're not going to fly back and forth every day. You're most likely going to move there. You're going to have a base there, which is your home. So if you are talking about, and again, to Timberchette's point, he made this later on in the clip, if you're talking about beings, craft that are traveling possibly light years to get here, whether it's through some type of, you know, wormhole tech or whatever, the fact is, it's probably not extremely easy to get here
Starting point is 00:23:54 from a different star system if that is the case, if that is what is happening. So it makes sense that you would have some type of home base and it would make sense if that is the case that would be underwater because you talk about not being able to be detected either underground inside of a mountain or
Starting point is 00:24:10 underwater, all three of those have been mentioned before and very interesting to connect it here with what Tim Perchette is saying about this USO report and he believes as a congressman that that's where some of these bases of NHA are right on right underneath us under the water just remember we know less about the ocean than we do about the moon so it makes sense to me but he also went on news
Starting point is 00:24:33 nation Tim Burchett and spoke about as we move forward towards the political side of things he spoke about Trump and the message that he would give to Trump he was on news nation and the reporter here asks him the question that you're about to hear what would you say to Trump and that's what We'll start off. What is your message to Trump tonight? Disclosure. America deserves to know the facts. And I believe we are not alone.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And President Trump has confided that, in fact, he will be releasing some of these. And I plan to have that conversation again with him very soon. Whoa, hey now. Okay. So this is really interesting. Two takeaways there, obviously, saying that we're not alone. And he wants to hear more from Trump. And Trump has confided in him that he is going to be releasing some of this information
Starting point is 00:25:18 and that he's going to be talking. to him more about it. That was actually more than two things. But those are, it was a loaded clip really in like eight seconds there from Burchett. There was a lot there in that little, that little handful. So if that's the case, you know, we're talking about someone in President Trump who has talked about this while he was campaigning, talked about it when it comes to the drones, which we're going to get to in a second here as we connect all the dots. So if he has been briefed and we're talking about him looking at releasing something. That's
Starting point is 00:25:50 directly from Tim Burchett where he says that Trump has told him that he's looking at declassifying some of these things and releasing some of the information and Burchett's going to follow up with him on it. The question is how seriously do you want to take that? This is going to happen one way or another. It feels like it's
Starting point is 00:26:06 inevitable. The push gets stronger and stronger. Not only every year, just going back personally for me, three and a half years, almost four years. Just personally speaking, starting new AP back in July of 2021. And now here we are at the end of January 2025. It feels like, actually, I know, every single hear of the push has gotten louder, stronger, more aggressive, more information coming out.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I don't mean aggressive in a bad way. I mean just that stronger, stronger push and the information that is being presented and the whistleblowers that come out and the hearings that take place. Absolutely, it's becoming more and more as the years go on. And now to the point where it feels like it's becoming more and more as the weeks go on, quite frankly, as the days go on. So I find it very intriguing. Maybe five, six years ago, I wouldn't have taken that clip as seriously where Burchett says that. He's spoken to Trump about it and, you know, he's looking at releasing some things and he's going to talk to more about it. Maybe I would look at that as lip service six years ago.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Now, I think there's something to that. But we'll see. Time will tell. All right. But now let's get to the hot top. of the day in what's is really just such a wide-ranging discussion here today on UAP. So really happy that you can join me for it because I was not expecting really to cover this right now, but you never know what's going to come out these days.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I mentioned, you know, how quickly things are happening by the week, by the day. Quite frankly, even more than that, I'll amend my statement. Things are changing by the hour at this point when it comes to this discussion. In case in point, what ended up happening yesterday afternoon. when the Trump administration dropped the bombshell the statement on the drones. A lot to uncover with this or to kind of dig through and unpack, as I said earlier. So let's go ahead and get started by playing the statement here from White House Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt. From President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones.
Starting point is 00:28:11 After research and study, the drones that were flying over New Jersey and large. numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational, and private individuals that enjoy flying Jones. In time, it got worse due to curiosity. This was not the enemy. All right. So there's your answer, right?
Starting point is 00:28:35 Discussion over. Moving on. No, obviously, there's a lot there that a lot of people took issue with, including myself. Let's start with the FAA authorization. And before I put in my own two cents, I want to put in a statement here from Jake Barber. Jake Barber, of course, the new whistleblower.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's been out there with Ross Coldheart. Of course, I think we know who that is by now, the AUAP, you know, everything. And he put out a tweet right away. He's been very, very active on social media. By the way, just going to throw this out there. We'd love to have him on the show, if anybody knows of contacts or Jake Barber that I can,
Starting point is 00:29:10 you know, acquire for him to come on, AP, just want to put that out there for anybody he might be able to help because it seems like he's pretty shielded right now. So we'll see what happens there. But he puts this out and says the activity there was not FAA approved. He says, I know firsthand. I was assigned there specifically to look at the debacle from an FAA violation standpoint in order to give a basis to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Someone is not presenting the whole story to our new president. That is the quote there from Jake Barber who put that out last night. Again, his words, not mine. So his opinion is saying that the Trump administration is not getting the whole story there. And basically they're being fed a story to give out to the general public. And his firsthand knowledge, again, this is really a new wrinkle that a lot of people, another thing we didn't see coming, that he's saying he has firsthand knowledge of this because his assignment was to specifically, look at the FAA violation standpoint so he could report back to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Now, believe that or not, it's completely up to you, but it's something to consider absolutely when we start to unpack this statement here from the Trump administration. Now, another thing to point out, and I think this is kind of, I hate to say misdirection, maybe just in my standpoint, because I already knew this to be true, and I've been saying it for a couple months, the last thing they said there at the statement, which was it's not the enemy. And that's something that's, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but that's something that I've been putting out there for a couple of months now through this entire drone situation. I've been told over and over again through my sources, Anthony Williams, of course, who I've spoken to a lot about this situation.
Starting point is 00:30:58 We did an hour and a half episode talking about what was going on there. And he specifically said, this is not China, this is not Russia, this is not North Korea, it's not Iran, it's not any of our adversaries, because they don't have the technology. to do what we're seeing. So that takes me to my next point. If our adversaries don't have the technology to do what we're seeing with these massive drones, remember, SUV-sized drones people are describing, then what is it to make us think
Starting point is 00:31:26 that these are just hobbyists, that these are just drone enthusiasts, doing their own thing? Now, we can say that about some of the smaller things that people see in the sky, right? Absolutely. I'm not seeing people don't fly their own. drones. Of course they do. And I absolutely think that people were flying their own drones during this
Starting point is 00:31:46 entire scenario, during the entire situation. Yes, people were flying their own drones and maybe through hysteria, people were mistaking them for something else. But that's not the entire picture. That's not the entire answer. That is just one piece of the puzzle. So I thought to me it was very striking to hear in the statement it's not the enemy because that is telling us if it's not the enemy and put that together with what I've been told over and over again, it's not the enemy because they don't have the technology, then who is doing this? It's not, it's not Larry down the street flying some massive drone from his porch. It's just not commercially available. It's not a thing. So we get confirmation of not the enemy, but to me, it also creates more questions, such as
Starting point is 00:32:33 what were they researching? Let's just go with the scenario that the White House Press Secretary puts out in saying that these drones so to speak were authorized by the FAA to fly where they were for research purposes and other various things
Starting point is 00:32:53 okay two questions there what various things what are the various things that they were doing that aren't named are they investigating something we know it's not the nukes okay that was debunked a while back they're not searching for nuclear material
Starting point is 00:33:09 or dirty bombs or anything like that. So if that's not the case, what are the other various reasons? They don't want to say something. Maybe it involves national security. Maybe it involves something having to do with alien craft that they're trying to research. Or on the terrestrial side of things,
Starting point is 00:33:28 it could be some type of government contracting that's part of a classified research mission. Again, what are they researching? I don't know, but maybe that's part of the classified, situation going on. These are just ideas because I'm going with their statement. When they say various things, then you have to wonder, well, what are they?
Starting point is 00:33:50 And who would be doing it? So if it's not, you know, the enemy, if it's not NHI related, if it's not people flying drones from their porch, then maybe it is some type of U.S. government operation that is highly classified using government contractor drones, technology that we haven't seen before, so it's freaking people out, and they've been contracted to do some type of highly classified research in these areas. Just throwing that out, there's a
Starting point is 00:34:19 possibility based off of their statement. Because we still don't know where these things are originating from. We still haven't got that answer. We can track them back, supposedly, so they say that we can track them back. Why haven't we tracked them back to anywhere? Why don't we know the point of origin if it's not an enemy and there's nothing to see here and it's authorized by the FAA well that we should know where's the point of origination let's find that out and let's also keep in mind these things are not seen on radar there's no planes on flight aware when people are saying well that's just an airplane no it's not because there's nothing on flight aware showing an airplane going over these places at that moment so we have to we get caught up in in the shiny
Starting point is 00:35:00 thing which is this statement and because you have a lot of people kind of like you know doing their victory dance, dancing on graves saying, told you there was nothing to see here, told you there was nothing going on, this was just some type of government thing, I wouldn't go dancing on that grave too quickly, because you're doing that and you're forgetting all of these things that happened and you're forgetting to ask these questions.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Whatever it is, that various word there encompasses quite a bit that they don't want to let out. That is word crafting is what that is. Again, playing with this scenario here, was put out or really the answer that was put out because I'm very curious to see now if they continue to comment on this and if they get questions because I can tell you and I think you don't notice it too and it's probably your reaction a lot of people including local politicians and law enforcement are not happy with this answer. They're not satisfied with this answer.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So I do think they're going to continue to get questions from people in the media about this, especially since it's still happening, which I'll get to in a little bit. I have some examples of that in case you haven't seen it. And it's not just New Jersey, by the way. So getting back to the question, though, what are they researching? If this is an FAA authorized operation and you have these technologically advanced drones flying over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, where they end up shutting down the airspace there, Wright-Patterson, a major, major base within the U.S. military. And when you have drones flying over nuclear installations in numerous states, not just New Jersey,
Starting point is 00:36:40 we're talking North Carolina, we're talking Virginia, we're talking Connecticut. There's many different states where these things are flying over sensitive installations, including nuclear sites. Okay, maybe not all those states have the nuclear sites, but nevertheless, sensitive installations. And New Jersey itself, with the Picatinny Arsenal, the largest distributors, of ammo for the U.S. military comes from the Picotini Arsenal in New Jersey. Why would the FAA be authorizing drones to be flying over these extremely sensitive areas? What research is our own government doing authorized by the FAA over these extremely sensitive
Starting point is 00:37:26 areas? It's just not cutting from me. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be Tinnat conspiracy. guy. These are just my observations, knowing what we know over all the details and the investigations that we've seen and that I've done personally over the past few months into this situation. That statement for me does not cut it. It just does not add up. And another hypothetical, if this was the case, if this statement is 100% the answer, why wasn't this just said before by the Biden administration? Why go through the song and the dance? When it comes to, I remember Admiral John Kirby being out there and saying this is no big deal.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Why not, you know, you had Alejandro Mayorkas talking about this, the former Homeland Security Secretary. I mean, there are so many different things. I mean, former President Biden put it out himself. He talked about this in one statement. So if this was the answer, the statement that we just heard, from Caroline Levitt through President Trump, why didn't the Biden administration just say it? So again, a lot of different scenarios,
Starting point is 00:38:41 a lot of different questions, and I think the overall thing here, though, is it just doesn't add up. But I also did mention that this is still happening. I would love to get answers on this. I mean, because the way that statement is framed, before I get into these examples, the way that statement was framed yesterday
Starting point is 00:38:59 was in the past 10. It's not a past tense. This is currently happening in various areas of the country throughout the Northeast, and you're going to hear about Ohio in a second. So when we're asking this question and we get that statement, it just is not enough. It doesn't address the issue and it creates more questions, in my opinion. Maybe you disagree. Maybe you think it's completely fine.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And by all means, if that's the case. but I can't help but to have those questions pop into my head and just think that two plus two doesn't equal five. Something isn't adding up here. And by the way, I want to make it known too. I think it's important to say, I don't claim to know what these are. I still do think, yes, it could be related to some type of NHI phenomenon. I don't think that should be discounted. I just think it's not the answer that we've been given.
Starting point is 00:39:58 That's just my outlook on this. So overall, in that case, it comes down to two main things. Either the Trump administration knows what's happening, and they're not willing to tell us what that is. So this is what they decided to come out with instead, which would be a lie. Or they are being lied to and being fed bad information, like Jake Barber alluded to.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I was saying earlier. It really is one of the other at this point. So all that said, Let's look at some of these other most recent examples, like within the past couple of days, examples of these mysterious so-called drone sightings, which I think maybe contradicts this statement a little bit from the Trump administration. Because they're not talking about these current sightings we're about to mention. They're talking about the old ones. Is it all the same thing? How much research do you need to do on the various things?
Starting point is 00:40:54 I don't know. Let you decide. Here's what's going on, though. This just aired yesterday morning, a few hours before the statement came out from the Trump administration about the drones. Today's show on NBC. This is what they had on yesterday morning. From Connecticut to New Jersey, new videos emerging once again. We have like a field in the back of our house and we can see them up there. Okay. So that's from the today show. Like I said, the reporter talking to one of the residents in New Jersey saying that she can see them.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And he mentions the different areas, right, throughout the Northeast, Connecticut, New Jersey, so on and so forth. but this isn't just a northeast thing. Remember, a few months back, we spoke about drones flying over, and I say drones. I know that we can call it UAP or UFOs, and that's fine too, but that's just the word that's always used in the news reports. So I'm not trying to insinuate anything saying that they're actual commercial or private drones. It's just the verbiage. So I just don't want to get attacked for it and say, Stephen, they're not drones. I understand, but it's just the verbiage in the stories.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That said, we remember the story. I guess a couple months ago over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base when these drones shut it down. I mean, there was seen flying over and they couldn't do a thing about it. And they had to shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,
Starting point is 00:42:06 which is a major, major base in the U.S. military. Well, about 50 miles away from Wright-Patterson, something happened in Ohio in a county called Mercer County. And this was a report from Monday morning out of a local news station in Mercer County
Starting point is 00:42:22 in Ohio called News Center 7. Here's their report on it. A lot of questions this morning surrounding a sudden rush and mysterious drone sightings in our area. And you can see some of that from this video here playing behind us right now. And now the Mercer County Sheriff's Office is working with federal law enforcement officers. News Center 7s, Mason Fletcher joining us live. And Mason, the sheriff told us it doesn't usually get these kind of complaints. Yeah, Nick, he said he hasn't heard of anything like this in 31 years.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Those calls started coming in on Friday. And since then, they've increased every night. Wow. Okay, so this could be one of two things, right? You're talking about all the sudden a swarm of drones, this massive siding that's getting bigger and bigger every day, and it became the question in New Jersey as well. Are we talking about, A, a real occurrence here where it's becoming more and more every night, or is it B, mixed in with some mass hysteria where more and more people think they're seeing something because other people are talking about it. And that's always the question. But the fact of the matter is, this is not confined. It's not you. unique to the northeast, to New Jersey. Just over the past few days now, as you heard there in the report, it's becoming more and more prevalent in this area of Ohio, 50 miles away from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in the Mercer County area. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of
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Starting point is 00:44:50 And again, as they've continued, now to grow and starting to get all this attention once again. And people are talking about it. Ross Coldheart was asked about it on News Nation recently. It was asked, what does he think the government knows about the drones and what they are and how this all relates to now the current Trump administration? Here's a little bit of what he had to say. The FBI has been trying very hard to capture one of these drones.
Starting point is 00:45:15 They've been trying to bring them down. They've been trying to find the source. And they've failed. So if somebody from the neighborhood was putting up just a standard drone, they've been doing it very cleverly because the best resources of the U.S. military and government have been unable to catch them. He also added, by the way, during that clip, it was something really interesting. He said, they appear to be changing their shape. They're doing all sorts of weird anomalous things. People from government investigative agencies are telling me they have no explanation of these objects.
Starting point is 00:45:46 They don't know what they are. It's so funny to watch or listen, I should say, to these clips with perspective in mind, because that was something that was recorded over the weekend from Ross Coldheart on News Nation. And then just a few days later, the statement comes out that we've talked about here today from the Trump administration about the drones. So when you hear Ross Coldheart says something like that and then put it together with the statement that we heard, it kind of goes with what I was saying earlier, something's not adding up. somebody's got bad information or someone's not telling the truth about it. Of course, the question becomes which one is it and which side does that pertain to?
Starting point is 00:46:26 And another question worth asking, and I haven't brought this up yet today, but I think it's a very important question to ask. Why would the FAA ban their own authorization? What I mean by that is, remember, by about late December through most of January, the FAA had a ban on drones.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It was a month-long ban. So if they are authorizing these drones to fly wherever they wanted to fly, why would they then ban that? Again, something here is just very, very fishy. That's the main point of that statement. Everything was fine. FAA authorized all this. but we forget to mention the ban on the drones.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Why are they banning their own authorization? And you heard Ross Coldheart saying there. They've tried all these different things. They can't track them. They can't trace them. They don't know. That was one thing that Trump had said before he became president. When he had these different meetings, he would say, well, they must know.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So why aren't they telling everybody? Maybe that's the problem because they realize, oh, there's more to this than we thought. and now they're kind of, you know, caught between a rock and a hard place because they're, they don't know what to say. And again, you hear that clip from Ross Coldheart saying that they don't know what they are, and that matches what I've been told and I've reported here, like I said, on UAP. So that has possibly put the Trump administration in a very tough place because, number one, if this is something that was, you know, a little bit more secretive than they anticipated,
Starting point is 00:48:10 now, like you said, they're in a tough place because they had mentioned that they're going to tell everybody what it was. Can they? They realize maybe we shouldn't say anything? I hope not because we deserve disclosure. And if this is part of it, then I think it should be told, whatever it might be. So where does this leave us? Where are we now when it comes to disclosure and the Trump administration, how they're going to handle all this? Well, I want to come back to what we were talking about a little while ago.
Starting point is 00:48:40 to kind of close things out today and tie this all together, where Burchett says that, you know, Trump has been briefed on these things, and he might release some of it soon, and he told he has confided. You heard Burchett say it there. In fact, I'll play the clip again real quick because it was short,
Starting point is 00:48:55 and I think it's good to refresh your memory. What is your message to Trump tonight? Disclosure. America deserves to know the facts, and I believe we are not alone. And President Trump has confided that, in fact, he will be released in some of these, and I plan to have that conversation again with him very soon. Okay, so especially that last part there.
Starting point is 00:49:14 President Trump has confided that he will release some of these. I'm going to have that conversation again soon. We have to wonder, again, looking back here with perspective, now that we've got that statement about the drones, we have to wonder how will this statement affect any type of disclosure conversation? In the Trump administration's eyes, and I can't answer this question, but it's really just more of a thought that I put out myself. Does the drone discussion fit in with their disclosure talks?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Or is it two separate things in their eyes? I asked that because I wonder if it was a lie, okay? If this was an intentional misdirection from the Trump administration, this statement they put out, and that's an if. I'm just pointing this out as a theory. If it was, then would they be able to contradict? what a conversation with Tim Burchett contradict what they're saying about the drones. Or again, do they see it as two separate things?
Starting point is 00:50:17 Because we heard it, Burchett saying there that Trump is serious about looking into disclosure and talking to him about this. And also you have to wonder if this will affect any type of conversation about a UAP czar. That idea has been brought up before. And different names have been brought up, whether it's David Grush or Hal Putoff or Luella, Zondo or Christopher Mellon or whoever it might be, those discussions have come up before about some type of UAP czar that would be in Trump's administration to look into this. So it's just it's just an observation. I don't have a good answer for it. I'm just wondering out loud, does this new statement about the drones, would it contradict anything that they're trying to do when it comes to UFO disclosure? Would it impede it? I don't know. All that said, what is going to happen next?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Well, I can tell you something for sure, and I'm definitely very much looking forward to you hearing this and to present it to you. I will be talking with someone that I mentioned earlier in the show. The mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham, will join me here on UAP, and I plan to have that episode out to you by Friday. So within the next few days, barring any unforeseen circumstances on the mayor's schedule, I will be speaking with him. and we're going to talk about what he saw in person, what he's hearing from his constituents, from the people around him, people in his office,
Starting point is 00:51:45 and what he's trying to do in his area when it comes to working with any type of federal response. Really looking forward to talking to him to get the report from the ground from the mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham. Can't wait to present that to you on Friday. So definitely stick around to stay tuned to UAP. make sure you're downloading and subscribing to the show
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Starting point is 00:52:48 or through social media at UA Podcast 850 on social media, especially through X is where I do a lot of my activity on social media. So you definitely follow along there and get all the latest updates. Man, there was a lot on this episode. I hope you enjoyed it because it was, it had a different feel. It was almost like two different episodes and one. I mean, honestly, I thought when I finally was able to give you those stories about those orbs, especially the one about the missiles going towards Israel that were blown up from that trapezoid formation of the orbs, I thought for sure that when I was able to give you this information, that that was going to be the main portion of the episode, no matter what, no matter what happened, that was going to be the main portion. And little did I know that all this information was going to come out over the next, you know, 24 hours as I was preparing this episode. Now, that's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It's fast and furious these days when it comes to the wild world of UAP. So hopefully we got to enjoy it, piece everything together from the Orb Stories, timbered shed, going into the drone report and how this all ties together with things to come in the future. It was quite the ride today. And I can't wait to see what happens next. I know I'll be here to cover it all with you right here on UAP. And stick around because there's a lot of exciting stuff coming up, not only the mayor from Belleville, New Jersey, in Michael Melham,
Starting point is 00:54:13 but a lot of great stuff coming up next week. And the week after, there's a lot of really big plans coming up for UAP that I can't wait for you to be a part of and to hear as we go down the road. And like I said, whatever else happens, I'm going to go on this ride with you. So stick around right here on UAP to see what happens next. But on that note, thank you all again for everything, because your support always means the world to me. Truly, it truly does.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. So until next time, it's Stephen Deiner here saying, be well. Thanks so much. Talk to you again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Bye for now. Catch the NBA playoffs on Sling TV, the most flexible live TV streaming service, putting consumers in control to watch games their way with flexible subscriptions.
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