UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 107 Secret Orb Sightings & Trump Drone Statement Reaction
Episode Date: January 29, 2025An orb formation that stopped missiles from flying towards Israel? And what do we make of the statement on the "drones" from the Trump administration? Stephen Diener reports and reacts on all... of that, and more, during another jam packed episode of UAP...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome back into UAP, episode 107.
Stephen Dean are back with you here.
As always, on UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast,
and really exciting times.
It seems like there is something happening every single day,
almost to the point where I should be doing one of these episodes every single day.
So we'll see how many I can crank out these days as we try to keep up with all of the news
and current events.
And that's what we're going to try to do today.
It's going to be a little bit of a mix.
of things actually. And what I like to call
orbs, USOs, and drones here in this episode
107 because we're going to touch on all three
of those craft, if you will.
That said, I don't mean to bury the lead, as they say.
I obviously understand that the thing that everybody is
talking about after yesterday afternoon is the
press conference there from the new White House press
secretary Caroline Levitt where she started it off in her
first press conference by giving the statement
about the drones from President Trump.
So that will be something that we tie in together here with the rest of this episode.
And we're going to get to that later on because there is a lot to unpack with that.
So we're going to tie all this together and start off with these stories first because this is exclusive to UAP what you're about to hear.
These stories about these orb incidences that have been seen last year, this is really going to peak your interest when it comes to what we've seen.
just with the reports about the MH370 video and things like that.
A lot of these orbs acted like that.
So I'm going to get into those stories so you know what's going on there.
And then we're going to move through the U.S.O portion, connect that with what's happening
in the political discourse side of things with the drones because there is a lot to unpack there.
But starting with the orbs, I'm going to go into a story that I've been talking about for the past
I don't know, two or three weeks on UAP here.
And I've kind of been alluding to it teasing in a little bit because I wanted to make sure I had all the details.
If you weren't following along on Twitter yesterday, I went on and put out this whole long post,
kind of describing these three separate incidences where incredible occurrences were reported by U.S. military pilots.
And so I went down and described those.
And what I want to do now for anybody who wasn't able to read those, I'm going to describe those here,
now to start off the show and also go into more detail, even if you did read that post yesterday
on X, on Twitter, I'm going to go ahead and elaborate on some of these as well. So at long
last, let's get right into it and start with incident number one, as I call it. And this goes back
to April of 2024. Now, as far as I know, these have never been reported anywhere else. And if they
have been reported somewhere else, then feel free to write me and correct me and say, no, we've heard
this before or so-and-so had this on their report or whatever it might be, but I'm almost positive
this is nowhere else because of where I got it from. And I'm pretty sure this is an exclusive here
on UAP. So with incident number one, going back again, like I said, April of 2024,
U.S. military pilot reported seeing four orbs near the Iraq-Iran border. And these four
Orbs came together to form a trapezoid shape.
These were not seen on radar.
So I want to put that out there as well.
This is a visual report, a visual sighting from the pilot who was in the air, giving this
report to, you know, mission control, I guess, if you will, and also documenting the report
later on.
So this is seen by a pilot who's on mission near the border there between Iraq and Iran.
30 to 40 minutes later on this day in April of 2024, after his initial siting of these
orbs coming together to form a trapezoid shape, Iran launched their missile attack on Israel.
And if you remember, this was a very, very big deal.
It was all over the news, all over world news back in mid-April of 2024 when they launched
their missile attack.
It was the first time they had ever done this against Israel.
And what we didn't know, okay, what we saw in the news was that these missiles,
were stopped almost entirely by the Israeli Iron Dome missile defense system.
That was the report.
What we didn't know was that, in fact, according to this report that I was given, 50 of those
missiles that were sent by Iran toward Israel exploded exactly where the orbs that form
the trapezoid shape were a scene.
Now, the story, like I said, was that the Iron Dome took them down.
but what we weren't told was about these 50 or so missiles that were actually
apparently taken down by this trapezoid of these four orbs.
Now, what I don't know and what was not conveyed to me was whether or not these four
orbs were still there when the missile attack went off because the pilot reported seeing
these orb stationary after they formed this trapezoid formation.
So your assumption is as good as mine at that point.
Did they create some type of barrier?
Is this a complete coincidence?
That's 50 or so of these missiles exploded exactly where these orbs were seen.
Now, if we're asking, well, how do we know that it was in the same exact spot?
I mean, let's be honest.
Obviously, intelligence knows where the missiles exploded and they can match it up with where the pilot said he saw these orbs.
So I think that answers that question.
but the pilot was not there to see the missiles explode.
So we don't know, because he was on a different mission,
that wasn't his mission to go search for orbs or anything like that.
They're just so happy he came across it at that moment.
So we don't know if the orbs were still there at the moment of explosion
of these 50 or so missiles where this trapezoid formation was seen by these four orbs.
What we do know is that the four orbs were there in a trapezoid formation,
stationary and about half an hour or so later, about 50 or so of the Iranian missiles exploded in that same exact area.
So make of that what you will, I believe that out of all the three instances that I'm going to go over here to start off the show, I believe that one has the most gravity to it, the biggest implications.
because if we're talking about some type of orb tech here, whether it's NHI or human-related, something happened there.
And to me, it can't be a coincidence.
That's just my thought on this.
It would be a very heavy, heavy coincidence that 50 or so of these Iranian missiles would explode in the same exact area where this trapezoid formation was seen by these four orbs that they created.
that to me is just making way too big of a leap.
I could be wrong, but that's just how I see it.
So if that's the case, if it is not a coincidence,
then there's only two options left.
Again, this is official reporting for the military,
intelligence report, okay?
That was shared with me.
So if you choose to believe the validity of this story,
then to me it comes down to two options
and what this means.
Number one, it's NIH-related,
and for whatever reason,
these orbs relating to non-human intelligence decided to intervene that night,
then that's option number one.
Or option number two, this is secret tech being used by either Israel or the U.S.,
of course, one of the strongest allies of Israel,
and being used that night, knowing that the attack was coming from Iran.
And they deployed these orbs in order to try to intercept these missiles,
before they got closer to Israel,
kind of like a first line of defense before getting to the Iron Dome.
That's my read on it.
So you can take from it what you will,
but the fact is this report is there.
This is a real intelligence report.
And since that is the case,
it's really incredible to consider the implications of this.
Like I said, one way or the other.
And if you want to go with option C as a coincidence,
then by all means.
Or if you want to go with option D and say it's all BS,
that's up to you as well.
but I'm looking at options A and B.
That's incident number one.
Incident number two takes us just a couple weeks after that, actually, late April of 2024.
Again, U.S. military.
This is a report from a pilot and the air crew who were up in the air that night, again, over Iraq.
They reported seeing three to four orbs that were moving erratically until coming together,
and they started to rotate counterclockwise around what this was an unknown object.
They couldn't make it out.
But these orbs were rotating, this is this sound familiar,
rotating around an unknown object.
And again, saying, does this sound familiar?
It was reported to me as acting very much like the orbs we've seen in the MH370 videos.
Of course, Ashton Forbes has been on this show many times, actually just recently.
And we know how much that he discusses those videos and has put those out for the past almost couple of years.
So when we talk about it, and it's funny actually because the day I spoke with Ashton a few weeks ago in our most recent interview here on UAP, I asked him during the show, I said, do you know of any other incidences like that of MH370 where we're seeing orbs rotating and teleporting something or anything having to do with not only an airplane or a passenger plane, but anything, where orbs are rotating around something.
and teleporting it.
And he said, no, you know, we haven't seen anything like that.
MH370 is the best example.
And I kid you not.
And I didn't get to mention this part on Twitter,
so I'm happy I get to mention it here on the show,
which is why I wanted to elaborate on all these reports
that I put out on social media.
But I kid you not, about an hour later,
after I recorded with Ashton that day,
I get the call about these sightings.
So I don't know if someone's listening to my conversations.
Or if it was just, you know, cosmic timing, if that's the case, I like to think it's the latter that it's cosmic timing and I'm not being, you know, spied on.
But it was just really kind of incredible to get that call and be told these stories about these other MH370-like occurrences when I had just asked that question to Ashton on the show.
Now, to be fair, I don't have anything in these stories that tells us that any orbs teleported something.
So far in, so that's unique, as far as I know, to the MH370 claims.
So in the first story, I didn't, I wasn't told that, you know, those orbs in the trapezoid shape teleported the missiles.
It was that the missiles were destroyed.
They exploded in that same spot where the orbs were seen about half an hour earlier.
In this story, we're talking about three to four orbs rotating counterclockwise around something, an unknown object.
But again, the air crew that was up in the air that night over the Middle East, over Iraq, didn't stick around to see what happened because that wasn't their mission.
They were flying on mission.
And that wasn't their mission to stay there to see what happened.
So we don't know if whatever those orbs were rotating around ended up.
teleporting something like we saw in the MH370 videos, if you believe those.
So, you know, we have to use our imaginations at that point.
But just to hear that it was something extremely similar to what we seen in those purported
videos, it was really quite startling to me when this was presented to me.
The third incident, third and final one, happened just about five months later,
about four and a half, five months later, mid-September of 2024.
So all three of these occurrences happening in 2024.
A near identical incident to the one that we just spoke about, actually number two.
But instead this time, it was seen over the open waters of the Pacific Ocean.
Again, reported by U.S. military pilot.
It's important to note as well that with that one, with incident three, the main difference there,
instead of seeing three to four orbs, the pilot in that sighting reported seen up to 10 orbs rotating around something.
and the open waters of the Pacific.
So that one is even more extreme than incident two.
But all three of these taking place within just a few months of each other,
two in April, one in mid-September, all three happening last year in 2024.
Those are the full reports that I was given.
Intelligence reports on those unreported previously,
exclusive here to UAP.
Really incredible stuff, really fascinating.
And the fact is that, you know, as Ryan Graves has said before, he's talked about this on many shows, many interviews.
Pilots are seeing these things a lot, whether commercial or military or private.
They're seeing these things.
They're seeing these orbs a lot.
And a lot actually happens off the coast of Florida, where I live here.
So probably even more of these things are happening, and they're just not either, A, getting reported or B, being related to anybody.
So it's really kind of remarkable to consider the implications of this and to think about that this is not unique.
These things are not unique.
This isn't the first time reports like this or sightings like this have happened and it's not going to be the last.
So we're going to continue to watch out for these things and see what happens next.
What other reports are out there that we've never heard about before?
But the fact is these three are confirmed reports through military intelligence.
so do with that what you will.
But I was like, whoa, the past few weeks,
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wanted to make sure I had everything correct
because I thought these were pretty high-level stuff
and I didn't want to get any of the facts wrong.
So that's where we're at with those orb incidents
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Man, I still can't help but to think about that, that first one with Israel and the missiles exploding.
That one's pretty heavy.
Yeah, I'm going to have to continue to look into that and see if we hear anything more about that,
but that one continues to stick with me.
It's pretty incredible.
But on to the next subject, which is the U.S.O side of the story, unidentified submerged objects.
They don't get brought up a whole lot these days because there's so much else going on when it comes to, you know, the orbs, the egg-shaped UAPs, the tic-tacks, which, by the way, some people are even saying that maybe they're all the same thing.
just a quick side note the orbs the eggs shaped uh uap's the tic Tacs maybe they're all the same
type of craft but they're being um I don't know maybe mixed up one looks like the other and
depending on the angle it's hard to tell which one is which especially with the egg and the
tick tack that's just a theory but I just wanted to kind of put that out there as a as a side
note but when it comes to the USO that's something that is not seen a lot because it's underwater
hence the name unidentified submerged object and it's
really something that has been spoken about when it comes to is this the origin of these UFOs?
You know, when a U.S.O becomes a UFO after it comes out of the water, these transmedium craft,
leaving the water going into the air.
And a lot of people have brought up, including myself, the theory, the idea that this could be the origin of these craft that we see flying in the air, any type of shape, no matter what it is, the egg, the orb, the, the, the, the tic-tacac.
cigar-shaped classic saucer or a giant one the size of a football field.
Yes, that's right, like Tim Burchett was speaking about.
So Timberchette, of course we all know him, Congressman from Tennessee, on the UAP Disclosure Caucus.
He was on with Matt Gates, former congressman here from Florida.
Of course, he still is big.
And when he was in Congress, he was big on this discussion.
So now he's having the discussion outside of Congress on his own show that he does
had on his old buddy Tim Burchett to discuss it.
And while he was on with Matt Gates,
Burchett discussed the idea of U.S.Os
and related a story about one the size of a football field.
Listen to this.
When they tell me something's moving at hundreds of miles an hour underwater
and our capabilities are, I don't think we have anything in order to do 40 miles an hour.
This one was, it was large as a football field underwater.
And this was a documented case.
And I have an admiral telling me this stuff.
And it just to me, I think.
So that's where you think the bases are is underwater, then, because of those reports.
I do.
I do.
I just think traveling light years.
I think it happens.
I think it's possible.
So could this all connect, again, when it comes to any type of craft, whether it's
something that's 100 yards long, which is an unbelievable story from Timberchette?
I mean, as far as I know, we don't have, or anybody, any country has something that can go,
you know, 100 miles per hour under the water.
that's the size of a football field.
Again, you're talking 100 yards long, 300 feet, however you want to break it down.
That's unfathomable, quite honestly.
And then you connect it with the thought that there could be bases under the water.
Now, we've spoken about this before.
That's not a revolutionary idea.
There's been a lot of different areas that have even been suggested, whether it's in the Pacific.
Okay?
You just talked about that with those 10 orbs that were circling something seen by the military pilot
or off the coast of California by Catalina.
A lot of people have suggested that area
because of some topography maps that have been seen
where we see some different structures under the water.
Pretty fascinating stuff there.
Or anywhere else around the world,
maybe by Antarctica out towards Europe.
So a lot of these, or even in the Atlantic
off the east coast of the United States,
a lot of different areas have been suggested
for possible places where underwater,
basis could be for UFOs, in this case U.S.Os. And this isn't, again, unique when Tim
Bichette is talking about this. I mean, Tim Galadette has mentioned this, and he's told the stories.
He was in front of Congress talking about these types of stories. So when we discuss whether it's
the or the or the arcs circling or the tic-tacks, it seems like they all go together because
they have to come from somewhere. So to Timberchette's point, and he went on to say in the
rest of the clip, you know, if these things are traveling, say, say they are coming from a different
star system. Maybe it's the Zeta reticulized star system, okay, just for an example. And they're coming
from there and it's a long distance, right? Light years away. Then why would you end up going back
and forth, right? It's almost like if you're going to a friend's house or, you know, a family
member and you got to take a five-hour flight to get there. Are you going to leave the same day?
Most likely now, you're probably going to spend a couple of nights because you just had a long travel.
be, you know, you take a new job in a different state. You're not going to fly back and forth
every day. You're most likely going to move there. You're going to have a base there, which is your
home. So if you are talking about, and again, to Timberchette's point, he made this later on in
the clip, if you're talking about beings, craft that are traveling possibly light years to get here,
whether it's through some type of, you know, wormhole tech or whatever, the fact is, it's probably
not extremely easy to get here
from a different star system if that is the case,
if that is what is happening. So it makes
sense that you would have some type of
home base
and it would make sense if that is the case
that would be underwater because you talk about not being
able to be detected either
underground inside of a mountain or
underwater, all three of those have been
mentioned before and very
interesting to connect it here
with what Tim Perchette is saying about this
USO report and he believes as
a congressman that that's where
some of these bases of NHA are right on right underneath us under the water just remember we know
less about the ocean than we do about the moon so it makes sense to me but he also went on news
nation Tim Burchett and spoke about as we move forward towards the political side of things he spoke
about Trump and the message that he would give to Trump he was on news nation and the reporter here
asks him the question that you're about to hear what would you say to Trump and that's what
We'll start off.
What is your message to Trump tonight?
Disclosure.
America deserves to know the facts.
And I believe we are not alone.
And President Trump has confided that, in fact, he will be releasing some of these.
And I plan to have that conversation again with him very soon.
Whoa, hey now.
Okay.
So this is really interesting.
Two takeaways there, obviously, saying that we're not alone.
And he wants to hear more from Trump.
And Trump has confided in him that he is going to be releasing some of this information
and that he's going to be talking.
to him more about it. That was actually more than two things. But those are, it was a loaded
clip really in like eight seconds there from Burchett. There was a lot there in that little,
that little handful. So if that's the case, you know, we're talking about someone in President
Trump who has talked about this while he was campaigning, talked about it when it comes to the
drones, which we're going to get to in a second here as we connect all the dots. So if he has
been briefed and we're talking about him
looking at releasing something. That's
directly from Tim Burchett
where he says that Trump has told him that
he's looking at declassifying some of these things and releasing
some of the information and Burchett's going to
follow up with him on it. The question
is how seriously do you want to take
that? This is going to happen
one way or another. It feels like it's
inevitable. The push gets stronger
and stronger. Not only every
year, just going back
personally for me, three
and a half years, almost four years. Just
personally speaking, starting new AP back in July of 2021.
And now here we are at the end of January 2025.
It feels like, actually, I know, every single hear of the push has gotten louder, stronger, more aggressive, more information coming out.
I don't mean aggressive in a bad way.
I mean just that stronger, stronger push and the information that is being presented and the whistleblowers that come out and the hearings that take place.
Absolutely, it's becoming more and more as the years go on.
And now to the point where it feels like it's becoming more and more as the weeks go on, quite frankly, as the days go on.
So I find it very intriguing.
Maybe five, six years ago, I wouldn't have taken that clip as seriously where Burchett says that.
He's spoken to Trump about it and, you know, he's looking at releasing some things and he's going to talk to more about it.
Maybe I would look at that as lip service six years ago.
Now, I think there's something to that.
But we'll see.
Time will tell.
All right.
But now let's get to the hot top.
of the day in what's is really just such a wide-ranging discussion here today on UAP.
So really happy that you can join me for it because I was not expecting really to cover this
right now, but you never know what's going to come out these days.
I mentioned, you know, how quickly things are happening by the week, by the day.
Quite frankly, even more than that, I'll amend my statement.
Things are changing by the hour at this point when it comes to this discussion.
In case in point, what ended up happening yesterday afternoon.
when the Trump administration dropped the bombshell the statement on the drones.
A lot to uncover with this or to kind of dig through and unpack, as I said earlier.
So let's go ahead and get started by playing the statement here from White House Press Secretary, Caroline Levitt.
From President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones.
After research and study, the drones that were flying over New Jersey and large.
numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons.
Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational, and private individuals that enjoy
flying Jones.
In time, it got worse due to curiosity.
This was not the enemy.
All right.
So there's your answer, right?
Discussion over.
Moving on.
No, obviously, there's a lot there that a lot of people took issue with, including
myself.
Let's start with the FAA authorization.
And before I put in my own two cents,
I want to put in a statement here from Jake Barber.
Jake Barber, of course, the new whistleblower.
He's been out there with Ross Coldheart.
Of course, I think we know who that is by now,
the AUAP, you know, everything.
And he put out a tweet right away.
He's been very, very active on social media.
By the way, just going to throw this out there.
We'd love to have him on the show,
if anybody knows of contacts or Jake Barber that I can,
you know, acquire for him to come on,
AP, just want to put that out there for anybody he might be able to help because it seems like
he's pretty shielded right now.
So we'll see what happens there.
But he puts this out and says the activity there was not FAA approved.
He says, I know firsthand.
I was assigned there specifically to look at the debacle from an FAA violation standpoint in order
to give a basis to the FBI.
Someone is not presenting the whole story to our new president.
That is the quote there from Jake Barber who put that out last night.
Again, his words, not mine.
So his opinion is saying that the Trump administration is not getting the whole story there.
And basically they're being fed a story to give out to the general public.
And his firsthand knowledge, again, this is really a new wrinkle that a lot of people, another thing we didn't see coming,
that he's saying he has firsthand knowledge of this because his assignment was to specifically,
look at the FAA violation standpoint so he could report back to the FBI.
Now, believe that or not, it's completely up to you, but it's something to consider absolutely
when we start to unpack this statement here from the Trump administration.
Now, another thing to point out, and I think this is kind of, I hate to say misdirection,
maybe just in my standpoint, because I already knew this to be true, and I've been saying
it for a couple months, the last thing they said there at the statement, which was it's not
the enemy.
And that's something that's, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but that's something that I've been putting out there for a couple of months now through this entire drone situation.
I've been told over and over again through my sources, Anthony Williams, of course, who I've spoken to a lot about this situation.
We did an hour and a half episode talking about what was going on there.
And he specifically said, this is not China, this is not Russia, this is not North Korea, it's not Iran, it's not any of our adversaries, because they don't have the technology.
to do what we're seeing.
So that takes me to my next point.
If our adversaries don't have the technology
to do what we're seeing with these massive drones,
remember, SUV-sized drones people are describing,
then what is it to make us think
that these are just hobbyists,
that these are just drone enthusiasts,
doing their own thing?
Now, we can say that about some of the smaller things
that people see in the sky, right?
Absolutely.
I'm not seeing people don't fly their own.
drones. Of course they do. And I absolutely think that people were flying their own drones during this
entire scenario, during the entire situation. Yes, people were flying their own drones and maybe through
hysteria, people were mistaking them for something else. But that's not the entire picture. That's
not the entire answer. That is just one piece of the puzzle. So I thought to me it was very striking
to hear in the statement it's not the enemy because that is telling us if it's not the enemy and put that
together with what I've been told over and over again, it's not the enemy because they don't
have the technology, then who is doing this? It's not, it's not Larry down the street flying
some massive drone from his porch. It's just not commercially available. It's not a thing.
So we get confirmation of not the enemy, but to me, it also creates more questions, such as
what were they researching? Let's just go with the scenario that the White House Press Secretary
puts out in saying that
these drones
so to speak were
authorized by
the FAA to fly where they were
for research purposes
and other various things
okay two questions
there what various things
what are the various things that
they were doing that aren't named
are they investigating
something we know it's not the nukes
okay that was debunked a while back
they're not searching for nuclear material
or dirty bombs or anything like that.
So if that's not the case,
what are the other various reasons?
They don't want to say something.
Maybe it involves national security.
Maybe it involves something having to do with
alien craft that they're trying to research.
Or on the terrestrial side of things,
it could be some type of government contracting
that's part of a classified research mission.
Again, what are they researching?
I don't know, but maybe that's part of the classified,
situation going on.
These are just ideas because I'm going with their statement.
When they say various things,
then you have to wonder, well, what are they?
And who would be doing it?
So if it's not, you know, the enemy,
if it's not NHI related,
if it's not people flying drones from their porch,
then maybe it is some type of U.S. government operation
that is highly classified using government contractor drones,
technology that we haven't seen before, so it's freaking people out, and they've been contracted
to do some type of highly classified research in these areas. Just throwing that out, there's a
possibility based off of their statement. Because we still don't know where these things are
originating from. We still haven't got that answer. We can track them back, supposedly,
so they say that we can track them back. Why haven't we tracked them back to anywhere? Why don't we
know the point of origin if it's not an enemy and there's nothing to see here and it's authorized
by the FAA well that we should know where's the point of origination let's find that out and let's also
keep in mind these things are not seen on radar there's no planes on flight aware when people are
saying well that's just an airplane no it's not because there's nothing on flight aware showing an
airplane going over these places at that moment so we have to we get caught up in in the shiny
thing which is this statement and because you have a lot of people kind of like you know
doing their victory dance, dancing on graves saying,
told you there was nothing to see here,
told you there was nothing going on,
this was just some type of government thing,
I wouldn't go dancing on that grave too quickly,
because you're doing that and you're forgetting all of these things that happened
and you're forgetting to ask these questions.
Whatever it is, that various word there encompasses quite a bit
that they don't want to let out.
That is word crafting is what that is.
Again, playing with this scenario here,
was put out or really the answer that was put out because I'm very curious to see now if they
continue to comment on this and if they get questions because I can tell you and I think you
don't notice it too and it's probably your reaction a lot of people including local politicians
and law enforcement are not happy with this answer. They're not satisfied with this answer.
So I do think they're going to continue to get questions from people in the media about this,
especially since it's still happening, which I'll get to in a little bit.
I have some examples of that in case you haven't seen it.
And it's not just New Jersey, by the way.
So getting back to the question, though, what are they researching?
If this is an FAA authorized operation and you have these technologically advanced drones flying over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio,
where they end up shutting down the airspace there, Wright-Patterson, a major, major base within the U.S. military.
And when you have drones flying over nuclear installations in numerous states, not just New Jersey,
we're talking North Carolina, we're talking Virginia, we're talking Connecticut.
There's many different states where these things are flying over sensitive installations,
including nuclear sites.
Okay, maybe not all those states have the nuclear sites, but nevertheless, sensitive installations.
And New Jersey itself, with the Picatinny Arsenal, the largest distributors,
of ammo for the U.S. military comes from the Picotini Arsenal in New Jersey.
Why would the FAA be authorizing drones to be flying over these extremely sensitive areas?
What research is our own government doing authorized by the FAA over these extremely sensitive
areas? It's just not cutting from me. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be Tinnat conspiracy.
guy. These are just my observations, knowing what we know over all the details and the investigations
that we've seen and that I've done personally over the past few months into this situation.
That statement for me does not cut it. It just does not add up. And another hypothetical,
if this was the case, if this statement is 100% the answer, why wasn't this just said before
by the Biden administration?
Why go through the song and the dance?
When it comes to, I remember Admiral John Kirby being out there and saying this is no big deal.
Why not, you know, you had Alejandro Mayorkas talking about this, the former Homeland Security Secretary.
I mean, there are so many different things.
I mean, former President Biden put it out himself.
He talked about this in one statement.
So if this was the answer, the statement that we just heard,
from Caroline Levitt through President Trump,
why didn't the Biden administration just say it?
So again, a lot of different scenarios,
a lot of different questions,
and I think the overall thing here, though,
is it just doesn't add up.
But I also did mention that this is still happening.
I would love to get answers on this.
I mean, because the way that statement is framed,
before I get into these examples,
the way that statement was framed yesterday
was in the past 10.
It's not a past tense.
This is currently happening in various areas of the country throughout the Northeast, and you're
going to hear about Ohio in a second.
So when we're asking this question and we get that statement, it just is not enough.
It doesn't address the issue and it creates more questions, in my opinion.
Maybe you disagree.
Maybe you think it's completely fine.
And by all means, if that's the case.
but I can't help but to have those questions pop into my head and just think that two plus two doesn't equal five.
Something isn't adding up here.
And by the way, I want to make it known too.
I think it's important to say, I don't claim to know what these are.
I still do think, yes, it could be related to some type of NHI phenomenon.
I don't think that should be discounted.
I just think it's not the answer that we've been given.
That's just my outlook on this.
So overall, in that case, it comes down to two main things.
Either the Trump administration knows what's happening,
and they're not willing to tell us what that is.
So this is what they decided to come out with instead,
which would be a lie.
Or they are being lied to and being fed bad information,
like Jake Barber alluded to.
I was saying earlier.
It really is one of the other at this point.
So all that said,
Let's look at some of these other most recent examples, like within the past couple of days, examples of these mysterious so-called drone sightings, which I think maybe contradicts this statement a little bit from the Trump administration.
Because they're not talking about these current sightings we're about to mention.
They're talking about the old ones.
Is it all the same thing?
How much research do you need to do on the various things?
I don't know.
Let you decide.
Here's what's going on, though.
This just aired yesterday morning, a few hours before the statement came out from the Trump administration about the drones.
Today's show on NBC. This is what they had on yesterday morning.
From Connecticut to New Jersey, new videos emerging once again.
We have like a field in the back of our house and we can see them up there.
Okay. So that's from the today show. Like I said, the reporter talking to one of the residents in New Jersey saying that she can see them.
And he mentions the different areas, right, throughout the Northeast, Connecticut, New Jersey, so on and so forth.
but this isn't just a northeast thing.
Remember, a few months back, we spoke about drones flying over, and I say drones.
I know that we can call it UAP or UFOs, and that's fine too, but that's just the word that's always used in the news reports.
So I'm not trying to insinuate anything saying that they're actual commercial or private drones.
It's just the verbiage.
So I just don't want to get attacked for it and say, Stephen, they're not drones.
I understand, but it's just the verbiage in the stories.
That said, we remember the story.
I guess a couple months ago
over Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
when these drones
shut it down.
I mean, there was seen flying over
and they couldn't do a thing about it.
And they had to shut down Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,
which is a major, major base
in the U.S. military.
Well, about 50 miles away from Wright-Patterson,
something happened in Ohio
in a county called Mercer County.
And this was a report
from Monday morning
out of a local news station in Mercer County
in Ohio called News Center 7.
Here's their report on it.
A lot of questions this morning surrounding a sudden rush and mysterious drone sightings in our area.
And you can see some of that from this video here playing behind us right now.
And now the Mercer County Sheriff's Office is working with federal law enforcement officers.
News Center 7s, Mason Fletcher joining us live.
And Mason, the sheriff told us it doesn't usually get these kind of complaints.
Yeah, Nick, he said he hasn't heard of anything like this in 31 years.
Those calls started coming in on Friday.
And since then, they've increased every night.
Wow. Okay, so this could be one of two things, right? You're talking about all the sudden a swarm of drones, this massive siding that's getting bigger and bigger every day, and it became the question in New Jersey as well. Are we talking about, A, a real occurrence here where it's becoming more and more every night, or is it B, mixed in with some mass hysteria where more and more people think they're seeing something because other people are talking about it. And that's always the question. But the fact of the matter is, this is not confined. It's not you.
unique to the northeast, to New Jersey.
Just over the past few days now, as you heard there in the report, it's becoming more and more
prevalent in this area of Ohio, 50 miles away from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in the Mercer
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Even good old Ross Colthard is now commenting on the drones again.
And to be fair, he's been commenting on it here and there still.
And again, as they've continued,
now to grow and starting to get all this attention once again.
And people are talking about it.
Ross Coldheart was asked about it on News Nation recently.
It was asked, what does he think the government knows about the drones and what they are
and how this all relates to now the current Trump administration?
Here's a little bit of what he had to say.
The FBI has been trying very hard to capture one of these drones.
They've been trying to bring them down.
They've been trying to find the source.
And they've failed.
So if somebody from the neighborhood was putting up just a standard drone, they've been doing it very cleverly because the best resources of the U.S. military and government have been unable to catch them.
He also added, by the way, during that clip, it was something really interesting.
He said, they appear to be changing their shape.
They're doing all sorts of weird anomalous things.
People from government investigative agencies are telling me they have no explanation of these objects.
They don't know what they are.
It's so funny to watch or listen, I should say, to these clips with perspective in mind, because that was something that was recorded over the weekend from Ross Coldheart on News Nation.
And then just a few days later, the statement comes out that we've talked about here today from the Trump administration about the drones.
So when you hear Ross Coldheart says something like that and then put it together with the statement that we heard, it kind of goes with what I was saying earlier, something's not adding up.
somebody's got bad information
or someone's not telling the truth about it.
Of course, the question becomes
which one is it and which side does that pertain to?
And another question worth asking,
and I haven't brought this up yet today,
but I think it's a very important question to ask.
Why would the FAA ban their own authorization?
What I mean by that is, remember,
by about late December through most of January,
the FAA had a ban
on drones.
It was a month-long ban.
So if they are authorizing these drones to fly wherever they wanted to fly,
why would they then ban that?
Again, something here is just very, very fishy.
That's the main point of that statement.
Everything was fine.
FAA authorized all this.
but we forget to mention the ban on the drones.
Why are they banning their own authorization?
And you heard Ross Coldheart saying there.
They've tried all these different things.
They can't track them.
They can't trace them.
They don't know.
That was one thing that Trump had said before he became president.
When he had these different meetings, he would say, well, they must know.
So why aren't they telling everybody?
Maybe that's the problem because they realize, oh, there's more to this than we thought.
and now they're kind of, you know, caught between a rock and a hard place because they're,
they don't know what to say.
And again, you hear that clip from Ross Coldheart saying that they don't know what they are,
and that matches what I've been told and I've reported here, like I said, on UAP.
So that has possibly put the Trump administration in a very tough place because, number one,
if this is something that was, you know, a little bit more secretive than they anticipated,
now, like you said, they're in a tough place because they had mentioned that they're going to tell everybody what it was.
Can they?
They realize maybe we shouldn't say anything?
I hope not because we deserve disclosure.
And if this is part of it, then I think it should be told, whatever it might be.
So where does this leave us?
Where are we now when it comes to disclosure and the Trump administration, how they're going to handle all this?
Well, I want to come back to what we were talking about a little while ago.
to kind of close things out today and tie this all together,
where Burchett says that, you know,
Trump has been briefed on these things,
and he might release some of it soon,
and he told he has confided.
You heard Burchett say it there.
In fact, I'll play the clip again real quick
because it was short,
and I think it's good to refresh your memory.
What is your message to Trump tonight?
Disclosure. America deserves to know the facts,
and I believe we are not alone.
And President Trump has confided that,
in fact, he will be released in some of these,
and I plan to have that conversation again with him very soon.
Okay, so especially that last part there.
President Trump has confided that he will release some of these.
I'm going to have that conversation again soon.
We have to wonder, again, looking back here with perspective,
now that we've got that statement about the drones,
we have to wonder how will this statement affect any type of disclosure conversation?
In the Trump administration's eyes, and I can't answer this question,
but it's really just more of a thought that I put out myself.
Does the drone discussion fit in with their disclosure talks?
Or is it two separate things in their eyes?
I asked that because I wonder if it was a lie, okay?
If this was an intentional misdirection from the Trump administration,
this statement they put out, and that's an if.
I'm just pointing this out as a theory.
If it was, then would they be able to contradict?
what a conversation with Tim Burchett contradict what they're saying about the drones.
Or again, do they see it as two separate things?
Because we heard it, Burchett saying there that Trump is serious about looking into disclosure and talking to him about this.
And also you have to wonder if this will affect any type of conversation about a UAP czar.
That idea has been brought up before.
And different names have been brought up, whether it's David Grush or Hal Putoff or Luella,
Zondo or Christopher Mellon or whoever it might be, those discussions have come up before about some type of UAP czar that would be in Trump's administration to look into this.
So it's just it's just an observation. I don't have a good answer for it.
I'm just wondering out loud, does this new statement about the drones, would it contradict anything that they're trying to do when it comes to UFO disclosure?
Would it impede it? I don't know. All that said, what is going to happen next?
Well, I can tell you something for sure, and I'm definitely very much looking forward to you hearing this and to present it to you.
I will be talking with someone that I mentioned earlier in the show.
The mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham, will join me here on UAP, and I plan to have that episode out to you by Friday.
So within the next few days, barring any unforeseen circumstances on the mayor's schedule, I will be speaking with him.
and we're going to talk about what he saw in person,
what he's hearing from his constituents,
from the people around him,
people in his office,
and what he's trying to do in his area
when it comes to working with any type of federal response.
Really looking forward to talking to him
to get the report from the ground
from the mayor of Belleville, New Jersey, Michael Melham.
Can't wait to present that to you on Friday.
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Man, there was a lot on this episode.
I hope you enjoyed it because it was,
it had a different feel. It was almost like two different episodes and one. I mean, honestly, I thought when I finally was able to give you those stories about those orbs, especially the one about the missiles going towards Israel that were blown up from that trapezoid formation of the orbs, I thought for sure that when I was able to give you this information, that that was going to be the main portion of the episode, no matter what, no matter what happened, that was going to be the main portion.
And little did I know that all this information was going to come out over the next, you know, 24 hours as I was preparing this episode.
Now, that's just the way it goes.
It's fast and furious these days when it comes to the wild world of UAP.
So hopefully we got to enjoy it, piece everything together from the Orb Stories, timbered shed,
going into the drone report and how this all ties together with things to come in the future.
It was quite the ride today.
And I can't wait to see what happens next.
I know I'll be here to cover it all with you right here on UAP.
And stick around because there's a lot of exciting stuff coming up,
not only the mayor from Belleville, New Jersey, in Michael Melham,
but a lot of great stuff coming up next week.
And the week after, there's a lot of really big plans coming up for UAP
that I can't wait for you to be a part of and to hear as we go down the road.
And like I said, whatever else happens, I'm going to go on this ride with you.
So stick around right here on UAP to see what happens next.
But on that note, thank you all again for everything,
because your support always means the world to me.
Truly, it truly does.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
So until next time, it's Stephen Deiner here saying, be well.
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Talk to you again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast.
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