UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 113 A Living UFO?

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Scott Gearen, an Air Force veteran and UFO experiencer joins Stephen Diener to detail what may be one of the most unique sightings ever. What did Scott see in the skies of Florida back in 2019? This really brings up some interesting possibilities...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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who was on the show recently, Air Force veteran and had just an unbelievable story of his own sightings and people he's spoken to behind the scenes. and one of the guys that he knows and has spoken to about, you know, his own experiences, a fellow Air Force veteran is a man named Scott Garen. And Scott is someone that Jeff put me in touch with. And I'm really happy he did because I'm going to present you a two-part conversation with myself and Scott Garon, who, again, fellow Air Force veteran, just like Jeff, and has another incredible story like we heard from Jeff.

And this one is quite honestly unlike any that I've ever heard. Now, you can make of it what you will, as always here on UAP, and in this first part, you're going to hear in detail, starting off with Scott, his background, his experience, how he got in to the Air Force, what he was doing in the Air Force once he got in there, where he was stationed, things like that. And then we get into more than a, like even a little bit of a childhood sighting that Scott had. So we go into a little bit of that, which brings us to the details on his own siding that happened back in 2019. So about five and a half, six years ago, the craft that he saw in the duration of his sighting truly, again, like I said, is unlike anything else I've ever heard in any other type of sightings. So what we do here is we go through the details of that. I try to come up with some of the things that it could be. And then, well, I'll let it take it from there.

So I don't want to give away too much. I'll just present it right here. part one of myself with Scott Garron, Air Force Veteran, with really quite an incredible tale of a sighting that he had back in 2019. And then stick around for after that. I'll preview part two with a couple of other news and notes before heading out here on this episode 113. But for now, here's my interview with Scott Garron on UAP.

Enjoy. Scott, thanks so much again for coming on the show here today. Really looking forward to speaking with you. And I guess before we get into really the, you know, the meat, the main meat of your story, I do want to kind of start with your experience just as far as military is concerned. Your background, when it comes to the Air Force, how did you end up there, what did you do, where did you end up, all that good stuff? How does that all bring us now to where we are today? Okay, I guess just start at the beginning. I grew up in Tampa, Florida.

I graduated Hillsborough High School there in Tampa a couple of years after that. I was going to junior college. I wasn't really fitting in with it. Going to the beach more than I was going to class. And a friend of mine suggested that maybe we go see a recruiter, join the Air Force, do something exciting and see the world. I thought that was a good idea. So I went down and talked to an Air Force recruiter,

found out about a job called Para Rescue. I didn't know anything about it. It showed me a video. There was a young man. standing in front of a old wooden locker. Back then, it wasn't real fancy in the units. You pretty much built your own lockers out of plywood and two-by-fours. And had a lot of gear.

And he put some on scuba gear, put a tank on the back, you know, full scuba gear, put a parachute on top of that. They got on a big airplane. I find out it was a C-130. They go out, jump out of it, land in the water. whatever body of water it was and gets into a life raft. And I said, hey, stop the video. That's what I want to do.

Found out, you know, about the job and what it entailed. The main mission being recovered downed air crew during hostile situations, wartime, behind enemy lines and go in clandestinely and rescue the downed air crew. So my first unit was to Royal Air Force Base Woodbridge in England. Okay. I got there in February of 80. Right. That seems pretty close to the Rendlesham time stamp of December 1980.

Were you in the vicinity and the area there of Rendlesham when that famous siding took place with Jim Panningston and John Burroughs? I was on the base. I was on Woodbridge. It was kind of sister bases there with the Woodbridge and Bellwaters. And if you look on a map at that area, you will see that they're, both of them are almost, and not completely surrounded in 360, but Rendlesham Forest touches on the bases in quite a large area around them. I, from my interaction with the Rendlesson Porras was, you know, it was there. It was at the base and where we would, when you'd come on the base, you'd drive almost to the flight line and go down.

It would have been a right turn or head at east in that situation and go almost to the end of where the buildings were. And our building was one of those buildings for our second. and then it was probably another 100 yards or so to the fence line. And then on the other side of the fence line was Rendlesham Forest. Oh, wow. We were out there quite often. I never saw the UFOs that were, you know, in that particular story. But as far as being in Rendleson Forest and being there at that time, you know, that's fact that I was there.

So was that talked about, though? I mean, when that happened in December of 1980, how often did that come up on base where you were there? You know, it was well talked about on the base. It was, you know, everybody was kind of whenever you'd see somebody here talking, it was like, hey, did you hear about the UFOs? Did you see the UFOs? Do you know about the UFOs? And so, I mean, the people on the base that, you know, that I was around and would see, it was a small base. It wasn't, you know, a lot of people there.

It was certainly a topic of discussion, but after a few weeks, you know, it was like, I don't think the UFO community was as large or as interested in the UFOs as they are in current, currently in today's world. So it was like, okay, you know, I wasn't a skeptic on them. I had, you know, a belief system that whatever UFOs were, they were out there. I looked back as a child. I had an experience as possibly a UAP-type event. There was this large, round, green object shaped like a large donut. Wow. And we looked at it.

As kids, we all kind of scream, you know, what is that? And then we all high-tailed it to our own individual homes. And, you know, we're like the phones. You could get on a party line phone practically then. Hey, what was that? What is that? And the parents, you know, we're telling them when they go out and look. And nobody knew what it was.

But it came out the next day in the news that it was some type of an experiment from MacDill Air Force Base. So that kind of was the answer. And then it was never talked about again. Interesting. So this was in the Tampa area as you were a kid. Yep, about 1966, time frame, 66, 65. It's pretty wild still, though. Getting now, I'll fast forward a little bit now here, Scott, because with all that said,

I want to get to your own experience. When this happened, what were you doing? I mean, what were your initial thoughts when you saw what seems to be some type of strange, metallic looking craft that is almost like phasing in and out of reality as as wild as that sounds. Yes. It was very, very weird, and that certainly changed more of my thinking, a paradigm shift, so to speak, where up to that point, and I'd had other things that I thought were sort of weird or encounters. But it didn't really change me until this one very much affected the way I have my outlook on it. I was in Panama City Beach, Florida.

I was staying at a hotel there on the beach. On the 22nd floor, I had a nice balcony. It wasn't facing directly to the beach, but I could see along the shoreline and see the beach and see the land. along there. And I was on the balcony, had the doors open, probably like 10, 11 in the morning. And I was doing some push-ups, exercising right there on the balcony. And, you know, when you, I think as a whole, people don't normally look up, you know, say, I will never see anything. Well, how often do you look up during the day or the night? Very little. Most people walk around looking at the ground in front of them and don't,

take the time to observe the sky and see what's there. Because there's a lot up there, whether we know what it is or don't, there's a lot up there. So my point with that is in that push-up position, for me, I know we were always taught to keep our head back and our eyes up, rather than, you know, keep your head down, looking at the ground, somebody could take you out if you're not aware of what's going on. So we do push-ups. We keep our head up and we look up. And as I was doing that, off in the distance, I noticed a very bright light.

And like you said, this was during the day as well. It was during the day. It was a perfectly blue sky. I saw this bright light and it kind of flashed. It flickered. The intensity was changing like on a rheostat of your light. You could go up and down a little bit. So the light, the brightness with intensity was,

was fluctuating and off to not exactly on that but off in the air I could also see a contrail so I put those again my first thought was is that an airplane is that a jet of some sort and I looked at it and quickly realized no it's not the typical aircraft a fixed winged aircraft that we would commonly see because you know it needs a forward movement horizontal movement to stay in the air and it wasn't doing that. And I thought, well, maybe it's a helicopter, you know, hovering in that area. And I watched it for a couple of minutes. And I could see the movements moving around were quick movements up and down and around.

And it just seemed like it was fading in and out of my sight. It was there, but it would get really bright. And then it would get, it was like, well, where is it? It's gone. And then it would come right back in the same spot. I said, well, that's not a normal helicopter either. So I thought, well, I don't know what it is, but I'm going to take some pictures of it. And then I started taking pictures.

I took them on my phone, took 40 pictures maybe, you know, real quick as you can with your phone. I took some video of it. And then I thought, well, I can see it now. I want to take pictures. And when I went and got my camera, my other camera, it was still there. So I took a few more pictures. You know, in my mind still wasn't like clicking that, well, I'm seeing something that's really, really strange or really weird, or possibly a UFO. I don't know what I was thinking, but I was thinking it's weird.

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because I had other things on my mind that I was doing. Like I said, I was doing my exercises. I had a goal that year to do a certain number of push-ups. And on that particular day, for the year, my goal was 100,000 push-ups. Four days a week, I was doing 2,000 push-ups. And on that particular day, I was doing 10 sets of 50. So I was also there to do a presentation, a speaking presentation. So my mind was on that as well.

and I was preparing for that in between the push-ups. So I'd do a set of push-ups. I'd look up. I'd see that it was still there. So I'd sit down and I'd take a few more pictures, do a set of push-ups, and it was still there, take some more pictures. So that was done at least 10 times like that.

Wow. You know, and now I'm into two hours, and then I take a shower or get dressed because I'm going to be leaving in a little while. And I still see it. So I take some more pictures and felt like a couple of times during that time period, I thought, I wonder if it is aware that I'm taking pictures of it. As strange as it was, it seemed that the object came closer to me at that point,

although I didn't realize it until I was taking the pictures. Then I can see the change in distances in the pictures. And in my mind, I'm realizing. or hearing or however it's being communicated that when I think I wonder if it's aware and I hear you whatever it is is aware I'm taking pictures and they know it so it's okay and I'm just going to keep taking pictures and I was a new camera I tried to take some video I took a little bit of video with the cameras a Sony camera I didn't have a tripod so I felt like I was um wobbling a little bit on the railing.

So that was towards the end of the day. And then I remember thinking, well, I got to go. I don't know. I don't want to just leave and have it still out there. Also, during that time, there was a period where with my normal eyesight, I could not see it. But when I put on my sunglasses, I could see the object. And I would hold him on my eyes. I could see it.

I looked it up. Nope, I can't see it. Yep. I see it, can't see it, yep, I see it. So whatever it was, had the ability to hide itself or camouflage itself or manipulate light frequencies to where a normal human eyesight couldn't see it. Now, maybe, you know, an animal that has different capabilities could see it, but our normal human eyesight, I couldn't see it. And though my glasses were polarized lenses. So maybe that was one frequency that it had not thought about.

I also noticed that it looked like the object had a top and a bottom. And the top had bright areas on it. And they would move around on it. It wasn't like a bright spot that never changed. The spots, the bright areas, I don't think they were light. I know they've been called lights. I don't believe they were lights, but they were very bright areas.

If you would, something you would see on an octopus, the way it changes its colors, and it can go from a very intensely colored object to just blend in with a white rock. Yeah. And the bright areas, they would appear smaller.

They'd move around, and the intensity would get larger, and then they'd get into where it looked like the whole object was consumed with this brightness, and it looked like it was spinning at an incredible high rate of speed that we couldn't even calculate the speed, and then it would disappear, and then it would come back.

And each time it did this, over this time period, it was kind of a regular interval, 15, 20 seconds. It was doing this process. It would come back in a different shape. maybe almost similar or completely different, but it would be in a shape that I could see. It would go into this extremely bright sphere,

disappear, and come back in another shape. And so that was the series of how it progressed over the time that I was seeing it, which was about a three-hour time period that I was watching. You know, it may have been a little bit longer, that I was there, but I wasn't taking pictures of it for the entire time. And it may have been up there, you know, hours before I saw it. I don't know when it appeared.

Yeah. I only know when I first saw it. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of things that really stand out to me, Scott. I mean, number one, the duration. I mean, that's one of the main things. Normally, when you hear about something like this, like when I spoke to Jeff Nusitelli, mutual friend, he was on the show. guys are very friendly with each other and know each other a long time and you know he's

talked about his experiences maybe lasted a few minutes over his house at vandenberg air force base that's normally what you hear you know it's very quick a couple minutes maybe even 10 15 seconds people have this this experience to hear about something that's three hours is incredibly unique i mean i i've never i don't think i've ever heard of an experience that that lasted that long. I've since then. I've never heard of of that either. It possibly does happen and we don't hear about it. The investigator that was assigned to this case from Moufan, Sabrina Robb, was also in the Air Force and enlisted security forces, individual airmen, and then later got commissioned and went on into the nuclear field was a launch control officer for the missiles up in the silos throughout

the Midwest. And, you know, she's had some experiences herself, signed NDAs for a couple of things that have occurred over her career that she has witnessed or been a direct part of. Then when she retired from the Air Force, I don't know what all she did then, but I know she, one of the things from her interest, she became a field investigator and moved on. And fortunately, she was assigned in my case. We've become good friends and discussed this case and others quite often. And she said the same thing. It's like, you know, you're the only one that she knows of or is aware of to have a

sighting like this and the pictures. And later, you know, I did publish. these pictures in two books, hiding in plain sight, published that in 2020. Then the second one was hiding in plain sight, volume two. So you can see the entire series of what I saw. Most of the pictures are in there. Some of them that I took during the time period when I could not see the object without my glasses. you look at the picture and you just see a blue sky,

but after a lot of different analyzing of it with different filters being applied to it, and some of them, not all of them, but in some of them, there is a very small, hard-to-detect outline of a sphere, perfectly round sphere. That's what the object was doing, was turning into that sphere

and disappearing. Yeah, it sounds like, Scott, and correct me from wrong, but you mentioned the, you know, this phenomenon, really, where you're able to see it while wearing your sunglasses and then you take them off

and then you can't see it. So it sounds like, you know, with polarized sunglasses, whatever this thing was, and you mentioned it, was using light refraction in order to cloak. Like you can only see it

on certain spectrums. I believe that completely. Somehow I was doing that. Another part of that is that the object on the top of it is where I could see the bright areas. And the bottom of it was clear. So if you were on the ground looking up, you would see a blue sky or not see it at all. You know, just like you would see a man ray or a spotted eagle ray, You look at the bottom of it.

You're on the bottom of the ocean. You look up, you don't see it because it's all white bottom. It blends in with the water and the sunlight coming through the water. But if you're above it and you look down, you see this beautiful spotted eagle ray, you know, gliding through the water. I think it was the same type of situation with what I saw in the air that day. It's really interesting, you know, something that can naturally use perspective. in order to cloak itself, whether it's from a predator or prey, or for whatever other reason, if we're talking about, you know, the animal kingdom and translating that into what we're seeing

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And I'll retweet them as well at UA Podcast 850 on X. And I'll put all those out there. So make sure everybody can see what we're talking about in detail. But one of the things that really got me was just the oddity of how these things looked as far as shapes were concerned. You mentioned that you had the glowing orb and then he would kind of change shapes. It almost looked like to me like origami. I mean, it's probably the best thing I can describe it to. It looks like some of them. Right? I mean, some of these things, they look like when someone makes a swan out of origami. And some of them even look like part of it is seen, but it's like incomplete.

like part of it is in our reality or in this dimension, whatever you want to say, and the other part of it hasn't quite fully phased into our reality. So it was like almost like a half and half, like some in, some out. I know that sounds crazy, but that's the impression I got when I'm looking at these pictures. Am I crazy, Scott, or does that make sense? No, I think it's very possible. It's somehow it's, it's, uh, the speed or the technology of it is able to, um, be an interdimensional craft or no better word that I have with what to call it.

Can I ask you actually on that note? This is an idea I've been floating that's been floating around my head the past couple weeks. And I've been a little bit apprehensive to put it out there. But I can't help but to think of it. And it's just knocking in my head over and over again as we talk. Is this organic? I mean, are we thinking about you talked about, you know, you almost heard a communication in your mind,

whether that be telepathic or not, I don't know. You can speak to that better than I can when you said, I wonder if this thing knows I'm filming it or taking pictures of it and you get the message back in your head, yes. We talk about how it's changing shapes, phasing in and out possibly, how it's reflecting, all these different things.

We talk about the octopus, how it can change colors, the mantel ray, how it can blend in. Are we talking about something organic here that's flying in the sky? I believe it is. There are so many things we don't know. We don't know what's in the future, for one.

But if you just talk about a non-human intelligence, it's organic and as an alien, everything under the level of the sea, the water, the freshwater, salt water, or whatever it is, is a non-human intelligence. The octopus, the cofish, the sharks, the fish, everything out there, the oysters, the clams, everything. is, you know, it's non-human. And it has intelligence to survive. Everything that's not human on land is non-human intelligence. Every most probably majority of the people in the country have NHI living with them. And they call them, you know, spot or rough or dude or whatever they name their pets. You know, we have non-human intelligence all around us that, you know, if you went to another planet,

would you expect to see a creature with four legs and big ears and big teeth and all? It's like, well, there's one right there in your house, you know? So it's everywhere around us. But as far as my thoughts on what I saw being organic life of some sort, I believe there's an interface with that as well as a non-human intelligence that is possibly a humanoid figure, type, what we would look at is what we perceive an alien or an ET to look like. But if you look through the pictures, many of them have an element of some type of a live sea creature.

For me, I look at it. I see eyes on them. and they're very distinct eyes in the picture that looks like a transparent manor ray. I call it a sky ray. I've never seen anything like it. I don't know what to call it. I call it a sky ray. But it has distinct eyes on it.

Now, it also looks like it has them on each end. So the other creatures that would do that are birds or moths or butterflies and things like that that would have a big fake eye on one end. So a predator thinks it's being looked at and it has another eye that it's really, you know, taking care of whatever business it needs to. And those are some of the pictures that I do have posted where I've been large and zoomed in. and you can see very clearly it looks like an eye. If you've ever seen, you know, a 600 or 1,000-pound blue marlin, you look at their eye, and it looks like what is on this particular object in the picture. Other pictures looks like a rounded head,

what I would say, the leading edge of like an aircraft or the wings, you know, it's going forward, that's the leading edge of it. So this type of object is in the aerodynamics, it has a leading edge. It's rounded. And it looks like it has eyes on either side of it. It looks to me like I refer to it as a bonnet head shark. And as these things change shape, it doesn't always stay in that shape. But as I've looked at other pictures, I see things, certain.

shapes, a heart shape, a rectangular shape, a triangle shape. They kind of retain some of those shapes, but they're consistent in the other pictures where the object has completely changed shape. So it looks like there's some type of a capsule, like a cock-refer, like a cockpit of a, you know, what I would say, like a fighter jet, you know, the cockpit area, but some type of a capsule that has this craft, biological craft around it, which, again, you're talking about what you were saying, sounding crazy, so I don't think it's crazy. You know, I say right now our technology, our interface, we can go out and get on a horse and

ride it around. Now, what about, you know, a thousand, a million years in the future? Maybe that horse has wings and there's a capsule inside it and you can take off with the horse. I don't know. That's kind of a craziest thought there, but that kind of that term, that analogy of it, what type of advances happen in the future that enable something that is alive and to be part of as a non-human intelligence or when we say non-human intelligence maybe it's

intelligent human intelligence from the future that's doing that right we're you know breaking through through you know different dimensions but i i guess the overall point here in in this scenario and maybe even in other scenarios and this this is kind of thing that gets me scott is that are we saying that in some cases what people view what people perceive what people perceive as, you know, a mechanical craft, if you will, what we're perceiving as, you know, something that's being used for transportation or gathering information, whether it's or the cigar shape or triangle shape, whatever people see, you know, or even the drones, right, the drones that people keep talking about that have been seen. Is it possible that some of these

things that we perceive as mechanical craft could, in fact, be organic life forms in some cases? Hey, you know, as Sabrina said to me one day, it was like, and she, that was not her first thought. She did not think that this was something that was a life form. She does tend to believe more of that as a possibility now. But, you know, she, and her mind was more of a fixed craft. But when she did say is, all options are on the table. So I don't know what it is. I took pictures of.

I just put it out there. These are the pictures. This is what it is. And people can look at it and believe it or not or make up their own mind. Sure. You know, part of the reason to put these pictures and this story out, as I did in these books, is if I didn't do that, who would ever know about it? Very few people would know about it. Sure, right.

But think of how many, how many. how many thousands upon thousands and thousands of people since they say Mufon started in the 50s have seen something that they don't know what it is and maybe it's a secret project or an airplane or something that's that is identified later. But there are many things that were not identified, unable to be identified. And those things are in reports that people wrote and submitted to the these agencies. Nobody ever sees them and they disappear. They go into the round file of the archives somewhere and you never hear about them. So basically this is my report that I have done on my own

and made public. And it's, you know, it's not something I'm getting rich off of. I've been accused of that. I do post pictures from the book, both originals and the ones that have been cropped and zoomed in and cleaned up online. There's up to you have sold, but, you know, certainly I'm not something to say. It's all a money-making thing for me. Sure. No, and I totally get that. Kind of going back, so just in your experience, and I want to put this out there as far as taking the devil's advocate angle here, right, for people who say, well, it could have been this.

It could have been that. You know, someone listening and says, well, you know, Stephen or Scott, why didn't you think it's obviously this? So let me ask you some of those questions. In your experience, right, in the Air Force, let's just cross off some possibilities. Helicopter. Yes or no? Would it make sense?

Okay. Any type of fighter jet or commercial jet? Glider, anything like that? Nothing that is currently out there that normal people are aware of. Okay. Balloons. Mylar balloon. It's shiny.

like a Mylar balloon. That's obviously a balloon, right, Scott? You know, that was one of the first things I heard. And I don't believe that. People that see the pictures don't believe it's a balloon. Either. Most people don't believe it's a balloon. I would just say, find that balloon that can do all these things and show it to me. And if you can, then I'll say it's a balloon. But until somebody can do that, I don't believe it's a balloon.

It's obviously what I took pictures of is none of those things. I have a little bit of experience being part of teams that launched, you know, smaller weather balloons. There are just round balloons that we'd fill and they release them so we could get the, what was going on in the weather. Now there's other balloons with many other shapes. I've been to the Albuquerque Balloon Festival, which has thousands. thousands of hot air balloons, but in all different kinds of shapes, but

they don't look like anything that I saw and I just don't believe that it's a balloon. That's totally fair. Any sound associated with this, Scott, when you were looking at it for a few hours? I mean, did you hear anything

coming off of this, whatever it was you were seeing? I never heard anything. We were, you know, we're several miles away from it, certainly. And my estimate, I think my initial estimate was a little bit farther than it really was looking at it and thinking about it in the pictures over the time. But it was at least, I would say, for the most part, and if I went in a direct line away from me, at least 10 miles. and probably in that ranging from 5,000 to 15,000 feet as it was moving around. Any other observable things like, you know, instantaneous acceleration?

Did you experience that at all? Or was it really just kind of floating there for a few hours? I don't know if floating is the word. I understand what we don't have words to identify what it's really doing, some type of anti-gravity capability that was keeping it up there. as far as an instant acceleration, you know, it wasn't like in one spot and then zipped across the sky

across the sky at a super high rate of speed. It stayed in that area, but its movements of itself where the speed was, the spinning. It was, and then it would turn into such a fast spinning sphere and disappear and then it would reappear. So that's where the high rate of speed was. Itself was generating that speed. I even though it didn't shoot across the sky,

it was in that area generating that speed. And so ends part one. Thank you again to Scott for joining the show. And quite honestly, we spoke for a long time, which is why I wanted to break this up into two parts. I normally like to do that. I try to break it up a little bit so it doesn't become too, too much all in one sitting. But I am looking forward to giving you part two in just a couple of days because, you know, in this part,

you heard the conversation and you heard the idea pop up about the possibility of, again, just posing the question of UFOs being living things. Now, maybe that's not the case all the time. If it isn't even case, you know, at all. there's absolutely still could be craft maybe it's a mix again just putting the idea out there whereas sometimes it is a mechanical craft maybe other times in the case of what scott was seen maybe it is a living thing and this biological entity this biological organism whatever you want to say would be some type of you know alien itself that we uh maybe mistake i don't know if

mistake is the right word, but that we kind of see as our perspective is, well, it's UFO, so it's a mechanical flying craft with something piling in it, whether it's in there or it's being remotely piloted, something. But maybe we're missing something. Could it be possible? And that's the question that I posed there with Scott. It's just in the way that he was explaining what he saw. And again, maybe it sounds crazy.

Maybe you're rolling your eyes right now. Maybe you're saying, Stephen, you've jumped the shark on this one. But I can't help but to have that thought come into my head. And again, maybe it's a crazy one. Maybe it's not too crazy. Is there a possibility that this theory that we bring up here could be an explanation for some of the things that are seen flying in our skies that cannot be explained? That UFOs themselves, in some cases, could be some type of living thing, some type of biological entity. I'm just putting it out there.

Leave it up to you to decide. but that is something that I couldn't help but to bring up at least, at least bring up while talking to Scott about this sighting. So that, of course, is what you just heard in part one. And so just some afterthoughts from there that I wanted to expound on. But on part two, when I get that out to you in a couple of days, we do kind of elaborate on that idea as far as, you know, the supernatural side of things. If it's not something prosaic, if it's not a helicopter, if it's not, you know, some type of

regular thing that we can explain away like a balloon or whatever it might be, then what else could it be? If it's not a living thing, and if it's not even a UFO, is there some other type of explanation that we could put out there on this supernatural realm? So we were just floating all the ideas out there, and there's a few more of those questions left to be asked. But we also get into something really, really intriguing that I couldn't help but to wonder, does this have a connection to what Scott was experiencing?

and that was his own near-death experience. And so that didn't come up to later in the conversation, obviously since it's in part two, but it was an important part that, quite frankly, I almost left out, not intentionally. It was just I got so caught up in the other part of the conversation that I almost forgot to even bring it up until Scott brought up himself.

I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got to ask you about this, and I'm really, really happy he came up because, boy, that really takes an interesting turn when we talk about that portion and connected to all this in part two. So absolutely look out for that in a couple of days. Can't wait to get it out to you. But really fascinating stuff.

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