UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 161 UFOs and the Psychic Connection

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Why do some people seem to have the innate ability to psychically connect with ETs? Or even use a technique like remote viewing to have a connection? Stephen Diener discusses these questions and more with filmmaker, Darcy Weir as they try to unravel the mysteries behind "Psychics and the Phenomenon." See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Enroll for summer at SMC.edu. Welcome back into UAP. Brand new episode. Stephen Dean. You're back with you here for episode 161 of the Unidentified Alien Podcast. and happy to be back with you on a brand new episode, like I said. Always love putting out the best hits, you know, the greatest hits and all that. Always enjoy putting those back out there.

But there's just something about that brand new feeling. So I'm glad to come back here with this episode here today where I speak with a filmmaker, a documentarian, Darcy Weir, a friend of the show. I think he's a great guy. We've spoken a bunch of times even outside of the show. And I think he just does a really good job on the subject. So I was happy to have him on here for this new episode of UAP because he came out with a new film covering the connection between psychic abilities and the UAP phenomenon, telepathy and everything like that. And he had some great interviews during this documentary with Tracy Dolan.

He spoke with Chris Ramsey. He spoke about Joe McMonigal and had some clips from him. Spoke about Edgar Mitchell. I mean, the list goes on and on here. they cover Ingo Swan, they cover Russell Targ. I mean, just anybody that you would want to hear about or hear from when it comes to the subject on remote viewing and or psychic abilities and how it connects to the UAP phenomenon, Darcy Weir spoke to them. He spoke to that person and has done incredible research on the subject and what these people have done in their work covering this field. So I was really excited to talk to him about this subject because it is something that I find extremely fascinating.

Like, how does this work? It happens. There's no doubt about that. At least that's the way it seems from all the studies and all the history of this subject of remote viewing or telepathic communication with extraterrestrials. But the question is how, why, who can do it? How does it work? What's the history about it? Well, that's what I go into with Darcy Weir during this interview.

So I hope you enjoy it. Really fascinating conversation. And then I'll come back for just a couple of things after we're done. So really fascinating and intriguing conversation that I really enjoyed. And I hope you do as well. So I'll bring it to you right now. Well, I'm excited to have him on here. I've been trying to work this out for a while now.

And finally, our schedules meshed. Darcy Weir, filmmaker, documentarian, and a great mind in the UFO field. Happy to bring you back on here to you AP. Yeah, Stephen. and good to connect again. Looking forward to our conversation. Yeah, absolutely. The last time I had you on here, actually,

now we've done some Twitter spaces together and everything like that, which have been great in the past. But the last time I had you on officially, officially, in air quotes, as a guest, was your previous documentary about the Pascagoula incident, Mississippi in the 1970s. Great work there. But now you've gone, and you've covered something that I find highly intriguing.

It's one of my most favorite topics to cover, which is why I really wanted to bring you on to talk about it. And it's a documentary called Psychics and the Phenomenon. And it's all about how ESP, remote viewing, telepathy, how that all connects to the UAP phenomenon. So there's a lot to get to there. But first off, if someone came up to you and said, Darcy, I didn't know you had this film. What can I expect from it? What would you tell them just kind of off the bat as a synopsis? that human psychic abilities are real and that non-human human intelligence, both animals on our planet

and possibly off-world beings hold this universal ability. Animals, really? Well, yeah, because if you look at Rupert-Sheldrake's research, this is. This is a university professor from the UK who took the sort of psychic phenomenon seriously way earlier, a bit of a trendsetter decades ago. In the 90s, he wrote and did a study about pets and their owners having a psychic connection with each other. And the sort of controlled test that they did was they would have this dog.

constantly being recorded on camera going to its front door whenever the owner had the intention in their mind that they were going to go home. And they thought maybe the dog built the schedule or something like that. You know, oh, at 4 or 5 p.m., they're going to be back from work, that type of thing. But they broke that idea and proved that there was something psychic connecting them because the owner would go to work. The experimenters would have them come back after 20 minutes, after an hour. And as soon as they had the intention on video,

they would see the dog would head to the front door. So I think there is that ability for, I mean, terrestrily, if a non-human here is able to. to have some kind of psychic connection with us. Why couldn't an off-world sort of intelligence have that ability to? And that is just something that comes up so much in the history of testimony by experiencers, contactees, abductees, is this sort of like telepathic communication. There is no flapping of the lips and the teeth and the tongue to create.

sounds and communicate a message, it's just like an instantaneous connection, thoughts transferred mind to mind. And it's, I gotta tell you, I think I buy into this because, and I'm not saying obviously that, you know, I find your research faulty or anything like that. Obviously, I love talking to you about it, but just on a personal experience level, it's funny, we were just talking kind of before we started about the UAP hearing. and I was telling you kind of about, you know, a little bit of my experience there. When I got back home and this didn't come up until right now when you spoke about the animal psychic connection,

when I pulled up to the driveway and I came inside the house, my wife told me she's, because I was gone for a few days from, you know, when I was in D.C. and I got back to South Florida. And she told me she's like, you know, our dog's name is Evie. And she says, Evie, like, knew you were coming home. she's like she sat at the window five minutes before you pulled up to the driveway and now this wasn't a schedule thing you know again you can talk about okay you know dogs maybe get used to a schedule eight o'clock you know my master leaves the house and they come back at five o'clock and they kind of get used to a sense of a schedule right or there's different movement in the house before you leave

the house and they get used to that movement and that's a signal to them that you're leaving but this was something completely random this is me coming home on a you know Wednesday or Thursday whenever I came home at like three o'clock in the afternoon. And she was there waiting five minutes before I even pulled up. So that's pretty wild, actually. I didn't know they've actually done studies on this. Oh, yeah. It's been studied.

Something that's also, you know, everybody gets into the deep psychic stuff. And we get into that in the documentary with regards to the history of remote viewing, that it works and some very prominent remote viewers that are, you know, still alive today that are giving their testimony from Russell Targ's program, you know, with how put off and all those guys. But, you know, I think every human has an innate psychic ability. And it's usually very basic, you know, it's an instinctual one. Sure. I've talked about this before, but it's like, you're at.

a shopping mall or you're at a restaurant and you feel somebody's gaze on the back of your head or something like that. Like somebody's staring at you. You turn and you just connect eyes immediately. That's another thing Rupert Sheldrake sort of tested, you know, in this scientific study. And it works. It seems to be like repeatable that we just know when somebody's looking at us, right? we figure it out and lock in you know lock eyes with them uh this probably is something primal like when we were living in a forest and a predator was looking at us um that was our first indication our first warning sign and we would start to run or get out of the get out of there when we felt we were being watched so um i think you know

there's obviously levels of psychic ability. Sure. And in the documentary, we're kind of, we're going over that. We're showing that there's really powerful psychics that are available in the world. And they come from all walks of life. There's people that are psychic mediums and do readings of your life and have pre-cognitive abilities and can see what things may possibly be coming in your future. future. And then there's the remote viewers, which are, you know, more of a scientific team of

psychics because they follow protocols to create a controlled study to record their abilities on paper while they're testing them out. And I really like that. I think that's, you know, in a sort of scientific study, you want something repeatable and observable over and over again before you can prove it's real. Channelers, supposedly in the dock, we feature an Ingo Swan channeling segment that a friend made that's really, really cool. And it's from 1973 when he was a, you know, very busy remote viewer. And he's connecting with some kind of intelligence that apparently is based around the moon.

Wow. And they're talking to him about things. So pretty interesting stuff. Yeah, I would say. And there's a lot in that documentary, actually, that I wanted to try to get to. And you mentioned some of it already with Ingo Swan and some of the remote viewers that you spoke to. One of them was Tracy Dolan. I mean, just to real quick go over some of the names that you had in this documentary, Thomas Jane, who's great.

I've got to speak to him myself a couple of times. He's just such a fascinating dude. I mean, he's kind of like a high-level thinker. And I learn something new every time I get to talk to him. I mentioned Tracy Dolan, I want to cover her. You spoke about Edgar Mitchell. You spoke to Chris Ramsey. You spoke, did you speak directly to Joe McMonagall?

Did you have that interview with him? No, that one actually I got from Chris Ramsey after speaking with him. Because I wanted to, you know, include as much of that off-world sort of stuff as possible. and Chris had an amazing segment that he made for his YouTube channel documentary about Joe's Mars exploits. Amazing. Yeah. I want to ask you about that, but just to touch on Tracy Dolan, what did you learn from her when it comes to remote viewing, what she's experienced, how she was able to kind of explain it and connect it to Ingo Swans practices as well? Yeah.

So I pretty much started making the documentary because of Tracy Garbert Dolan. She's obviously the wife of Richard, my friend, and I was at a contact in the desert a few years ago. She did a presentation on the mind, consciousness, kind of relating that to quantum computers. and, you know, basically theorizing, hey, maybe the brain is a room-temp quantum computer, you know, and possibly when we're able to do things like psychic and remote viewing, we're using our brains to connect to something non-local. So that's like proof, right, that that thesis may be correct. And so we went, I took her aside, interviewed.

her and she connected me with Russell Targ. She's actually a powerful remote viewer and she tells this story in the documentary about a very effective remote viewing session that she did, which she later connected with the subject that she saw in her remote view. And then, yeah, she has gone to the mystery schools. She studied remote viewing and she knows the protocols. And so the interesting thing is that you have multiple people, like obviously many people in the documentary that are talking about their remote viewing. And I feel like her story is really important because, first of all, women are super overlooked in the UAP slash UFO.

community. Yeah. She's hyper-intelligent. She understands the history of remote viewing and all the key people, and she knows how to do this stuff. So I really wanted to feature her story and her thoughts heavily in this documentary. For sure. And yeah, in regards to Ingo Swan, she basically, you know, recounts what his experience was

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I mean, you can do a three-hour documentary on. I mean, when it comes to some of that, though, was that really? repeatable, do you know, when it comes to viewing the dark side of the moon and what was seen there, did anybody else go and try the same thing and actually saw what Ingo saw? Well, Carl Wolf, who's, you know, an early whistleblower from the early 2000s, came out under Dr. Stephen Greer's disclosure project. He had testimony that in 1960s, he had testimony that in 1960s, In the 1960s, he was working at an NSA base, a secret facility that was taking photos of the dark side of the moon. And they were apparently using the lunar orbiter to scope out the lunar landscape and try to find appropriate landing spots and points of interest, obviously,

that the astronauts could go investigate for Apollo 11. And when he was there, he was actually operating within the Air Force as a technician, a repair technician for basically an early commercial photo printer that they were using at the base to print out high-res images that were being beamed back from the lunar orbiter. Right. And what his testimony was, he arrives at the base. There's a bit of a mood because most of the people are spooked there. It's a bit of an intense environment.

And a Air Force member of the same rank that was working there around the same age, called him over to look at photos and said to him, we found a base on the moon and showed him structures that looked like, dishes, towers, and buildings that were not ours. They predated our ability to even land there. So I think that kind of confirms things that earlier that maybe inspired Ingo-Swan's remote view that he was targeted by the intelligence and military apparatus.

That's amazing to think about. How much of the work that Ingo did ended up being with the U.S. government? I mean, did they pretty much just employ him all the way through? Or was he kind of back and forth? So he worked, he headed up the DIA program that Paul H. Smith and Joe McMonagull eventually were working under. And he went and started his own school afterwards, after that was. Because that was shut down in 1991, right? And Ingo died years ago, but not in the 90s.

Right. So Paul H. Smith took over that remote viewing school of teaching. And he still teaches that today and has clients apparently that are connected to intelligence or military. And Paul Smith is a part of the documentary. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. He talks about, you know, whatever. Ingo's theories were what it was like to remote view UFO targets.

And basically his theories on a non-human intelligence as well because, you know, he's he's open to the idea that that exists. And he's a very scientific analytical mind. You know, he's not close to that because there's a. possibility scientifically. And I think what maybe some people forget or maybe don't even know is that remote viewing and

psychic abilities have a long documented history within U.S. government employment. So, I mean, how can we put that into perspective, Darcy? When people hear that, maybe they think, oh, well, that's just stuff that was in movies. That's, you know, that's that George Clooney movie, the men

had stare at Goats. That was silly. But this stuff actually happened, right? ends, it wasn't like a sideshow thing. They believed in it. Yeah. So essentially what you can look at from bird's eye view and understand for sure it's something that was usable and actionable and of interest by the intelligence and military apparatus of the United States of America.

You got to look at how Rustard. came in, Edgar Mitchell helped him. They went over to SRI at Stanford Research Institute, and they stood up this initial program. The CIA got interested, and later the DIA, defense intelligence agency, got interested too. And for decades, they were funding this.

because look, we were talking about a satellite that was going around the moon taking photos. You get photos from above in really high resolution definition now and videos, right, of all kinds of points of interest on the planet today. So where do you go when you identify a point of interest at an adversary's country? and you've only got the picture of some vehicles outside of a building and you can only see the rooftop from a bird's eye view. Well, maybe you go to a psychic, high-powered psychic that is well-trained, knows how to target, knows how to get inside that building. Look at the personnel. Look at the equipment they have inside. What are they doing in there?

Russ Targ has a story about a really powerful psychic that he originally worked with named Pat Price. And apparently Pat Price had the ability to do that type of thing. In fact, he even had the ability to look inside of a safe that was locked and read the words on papers that were inside there. Right. So if that's not an advantage that you would want as an intelligence or a military, agency, I don't know what you, what else you would want, right? Yeah. Of course, we can hack things today, but there's all kinds of advantages to possibly employing this method to gain intelligence on an adversary.

They shut down the program in the early 90s, right? And their statement when the press asked why, they said, oh, we didn't get any actionable intelligence, like it wasn't an effective method, which is total BS because they're still using these people today. I was going to ask you that. How often does this happen now? It has to be still happening. I mean, this is what I keep hearing from people like Tracy Garbert Doyle and Paul Smith, Russ Targ, and Russ himself even says, you know, at the end of the program, before, they shut it down, they sent over two CIA agents, one male, one female. They were very well qualified and were as powerful psychics as Pat Price. They fully learned the protocols. They

were trained and recorded how to conduct everything. And then the program was shut down. So, I guess a working theory would be the CIA took it in-house. Right. Once they learned everything they could from the process. And then it was no longer run by a third party. And it was, you know, all within their own domain. Right. Which makes perfect sense.

We mentioned, of course, talking about the moon and what, you know, Ingo Swan saw there and what's the satellite images or the images that were taken anyway of the moon on the dark side there. now someone else who is actually on the moon and has spoken about in your documentary that's astronaut Edgar Mitchell from the Apollo 14 missions who's of course passed away but he did many interviews he was very open about his work towards disclosure and his belief that we absolutely were not the only ones around and that there was something else out there talk about a little bit about what you learned about Edgar Mitchell and what his work meant to all of this. Yeah. So I think the thing people don't quite realize. So I got, I licensed a Noetics Institute

interview that was featured in the documentary. There's something about that astronaut, the Apollo 14 astronaut that went to the moon and came back, that was so remarkable. He was a champion for the disclosure sort of process. And he was a champion for SI and ESP, extrasensory perception and research into that because he was actually studying J.B. Ryan, who was a Duke University researcher in the earlier decades well before, you know, he was even probably born.

I think it was the 1940s when J.B. Ryan was conducting his ESP research. And if you watch a film like Ghostbusters, the opening scene is, I think Peter Vinkman is doing this sci experiment, which is a real experiment. There are these cards with like a triangle, wavy lines, a square, a circle, and a star. those are called Xenar cards and that ESP test is real and it's still something that's taught at the J.B. the Ryan Institute in North Carolina. And that individual inspired Edgar Mitchell. Actually, when I spoke to Russell Targ in his home for this doc, he was inspired as a 13-year-old boy when he read J.B. Ryan's instance.

research growing up. And that probably was a slight impetus for Russ to eventually as an adult create his own psychic research program. But Edgar Mitchell did these Xenar card tests in space as an astronaut. And they found 90% effectiveness with the people that were back on Earth that he was conducting this test with. Wow. So he was convinced, you know, and when he bumped into Russell Targ at NASA, Russell Targ was begging NASA for funding after he'd completed this laser research project that he had done for them. He wanted to do the ESP research. And Edgar Mitchell, you know, it was serendipitous, a

Synchronicity said, hey, I'm going to go to Stanford. I'm going to be a contractor at SRI. Right. I'll bring you over there and probably convince them to do this with you. I'll do whatever I can to help. So he just was an amazing force to be reckoned with in terms of allowing fringe science and theories to be researched and be embraced in the world. then obviously his contribution to the conversation about UFOs, now known as UAPs, was unprecedented. Do you feel like Edgar Mitchell was defamed a little bit later in life?

Do you feel like people were trying to kind of downgrade him and paint him as like this crazy old astronaut who has all these wild theories? And the reason I ask that is because I came across that myself, just because I've done research on Edgar Mitchell. I never got to speak to him, unfortunately, but I thought he was just an incredible person and always admired how open he was on this subject. But as I would do that research, I would find that a lot of negative articles about him, painting him as like, again, kind of like this crazy old astronaut.

Did you find that as well? And why do you think that was? I think that's anybody that pushes the fringe. I mean, Galileo was considered a cuck by the Catholic Church. when he challenged the theory that we weren't the center of the universe. And in fact, based off of early observations by Copernicus, the sun seemed to be the center of our solar system. And we probably revolve around that, right? So, yeah, he did get attacked.

And I mean, it's always by somebody else that seems to have higher credibility and and maybe a bit more notoriety in society. Neil deGrasse Tyson, he uses his stature and his place to attack the theory that UAPs, UFOs, being a non-human intelligence visiting our planet is totally unreal. But it seems he hasn't looked at all the research or all of the incidents that have happened throughout history.

If he had, he probably would change that theory, I would hope, unless he's just driving some kind of mainstream establishment debunking PR campaign. Right. Yeah. And so, yeah, everybody who stands up like a nail and gets attention, they often try to, people try to hammer them down. And that's just the way it goes. Yeah, unfortunately.

Do we know if Edgar Mitchell saw something that or experienced something in space while on the moon that kind of let him down this path? There's theories that they saw stuff on the lunar surface. There's actually a pretty interesting clip you can find online. And you hear them say, oh, they're here again. And that's the other astronaut. And Edgar Mitchell says, yeah, never mind them or something like that, like just ignore them. So I don't know what that cryptic conversation was about, but people, you know, they kind of pick that up and run with it. I don't know if he ever saw something.

Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't need to see something, you know, in cis lunar space or on the moon. Maybe he knew of very credible encounters that happened on Earth. And former Gemini mission astronaut Gordon Cooper, he certainly saw a UFO touchdown when he was working at an Air Force base. And all the astronauts talk to each other. I mean, even there's rumor that Buzz Aldrin and his crew during Apollo 11, saw some kind of object tracking them to the moon. Yeah.

And I'm sure that Edgar Mitchell talked with those guys too and said, okay. And he talked to pilots, all kinds of credible observers that had incidents like that. I'm sure that's why he championed the subject. Yeah. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee. Brooke Lennon and Kylie. But what if people haven't heard about your brand?

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He never really did say exactly what led him to this passion for disclosure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing it. Yeah, you're right. And I always wonder that too. But I don't want to get carried away with speculation. Right, right. It's just possible that he was threatened like anybody else in the early days. to not talk about what they actually know.

And that's something that we're plagued with even today with the current whistleblowers. They sign an order, NDA, you know, contract to work within highly secretive areas of the military or companies that are linked to the military, industrial complex. And if they break their oath, they're in big trouble, possibly could go to prison for life or, you know, be killed. We saw that recently with Tyler Borland. I mean, he mentioned that at the recent UAP hearing.

Right. And so, you know, this is something that's more commonly understood now. We know whistleblowers are worth a lot. You know, they're very important for what's really going on with the world and our reality. but imagine back in Edgar's days where you would never even think of breaking that contract or that that you know, code of honor with your previous employer who was from that sort of environment. And it probably was even heavier repercussions back then. Maybe people died that we didn't even know about.

It could be. Yeah, right. Again, it's kind of speculation, but it does make you wonder for sure. And I think it's honestly, I think it's fair to ask these questions. So that's why. Why not? Yeah, it's worth bringing up for sure. But someone else said, and we mentioned them,

I wanted to bring them up before we were done here today, was Chris Ramsey, who does a great job on his show, Area 52, does a great job there on YouTube and other platforms where it appears. Great guy. Obviously, you met him, we both met him and spoken to him in the past, and he's fantastic. But he spoke also about Joe McMonigal. And Joe McModigal is somebody that obviously we have a mutual interest in. I've never spoken to him, always wanted to, because I think that he is, if we're, you know,

I'm not trying to like rank anybody here, but I just have always found him to be the most interesting overall remote viewer because of this story, because of his past, because of his, you know, the military experience, how he was brought into the fold and everything that he saw in such detail, especially the Mars incident as well. So what did you learn about from Chris Ramsey and also that kind of led you down the road to Joe? Yeah. So you can actually go on Google and just search Mars remote viewing document CIA 1984. It's all there. And it's all there. It's like a dock that talks about the remote viewing of a target location on Mars where Joe was targeted to see Sidonia, which it was later named by Richard C. Hoagland.

This is an area that's famous because it looks like there's structures like pyramids on the Mars surface. and we have famous photos that were leaked, that were published originally, but varying qualities of those. And then you have this remote viewer that was targeted in that same area, and he has high-definition photos that he got after he found out what that target location was,

because it kind of spooked him, right? Like, well, he's doing it, he was just like, what am I looking? Like what is this target? This is so odd. And he apparently felt like he was connecting with a artificial intelligence sort of on Mars that was left over from a civilization that was about a million years old. And they were humanoid. So they were like humans, but 12 feet plus tall.

They were highly sophisticated, had great technology, but they were dying off. There had been some kind of cataclysmic event that caused a lot of stress to their society. And what he felt like he was connecting with was like this AI system or this computer system that was telling him what happened in the past. and they're no longer there. Like they've passed on. But he also surmised that maybe we are like some kind of altered version of them. And they were like the precursor race in our solar system that eventually made their way to Earth.

I mean, if remote viewing is real and we see these controlled experiments like these little remote viewing sessions where a highly psychic person is given an envelope with a random target and they're able to gain all of this information about a site in Russia that's of interest. Why couldn't they do it on the moon? Why couldn't they do it on Mars? Right. Through your research, Darcy, do you feel like anybody could do this? Is this a learned?

I know obviously they have institutes for this, but for instance, they have quarterback schools, right? I could go to a quarterback school and I'm not going to play like Patrick Mahomes or Peyton Manning. I might be able to learn some new techniques and how to throw the ball that I'm not going to be as good as them. So when I say, can anybody do it? What kind of level of success

could the average Joe or Jane expect if they were to try to take up through techniques of remote viewing and psychic abilities? It's good question. And it's something I kind of cover in the documentary,

because I was interested in that, too. Chris Ramsey talked to Ed May, who took over the SRI research of all this remote viewing psychic stuff. And he found that it's still 90, you know, 80 to 90% effective. And people have different levels of psychic ability, just like people have different levels of athleticism. You know, I probably would finish

somewhere in the lowest percentile of athletic abilities. That's why I'm a nerd sitting around making documentaries about UFOs. I'm right there with you, man. Don't worry. But there are physically really highly capable people out there that do well and they end up becoming NFL superstars, right? Right, sure. So everybody has a different level of ability in the world.

And in terms of this ability, it's the same thing. Ed May would say that you can go to a school like the Monroe Institute and you can learn how to do all these things, OBEs and stuff, but you're only going to achieve a certain ability based on your innate level. You're going to learn up to that level. You're never going to surpass it because it's just not something that you're naturally, you know, if you go and find one of these highly capable precognitive psychics, I'm sure if they were run through this schooling, they probably would

have incredible success and they would have a higher quality of data to provide than, you know, me drawing a stick man, you know. And if you look at the illustrations that come from these really powerful remote viewers like Joe McManagle, Pat Price, Ingo Swan, like they're detailed illustrations. Yeah. They're not like really vague, bad illustrations. Yeah, and that makes sense. And I think the athleticism analogy probably fits really well because, again, that just kind

of goes to show inaneability, right? Michael Jordan had more inate ability than some other basketball players. Tom Brady, you know. So it's, it's, we think about athleticism as obviously more because it's physicality, but there is seemingly some type of ability that we all have and some is just higher than others. Do you think that this is more hard to believe for people, this side of the discussion is more hard to believe for people than say there's other life out there? No, I think actually this is easier to believe for people because we've always had in like many different cultures around the world, mystics and shaman and, you know, kind of like wizards, people that just understood the world psychically better than people around them. And, you know, Edgar Casey was one of these guys back in the day that was a powerful medium and pre-cognitive psychic and stuff.

So, you know, you can see a history of these types of people living in society. I think this is something that people realize is possible. It's just how do we quantify? it and make it mainstream and not like taboo or ridiculous to the rest of society, right? Because most of the time people think of a crystal ball or something, like some lady with a beret on and like holding her hands over a crystal ball and conducting seances and stuff. It's not like that, you know, could be. but there's quantifiable research that's been done,

and it's obviously a real phenomenon. It's just not embraced by mainstream academic and scientific communities. Yeah, exactly. So all in all, what did you feel like you came away with, Darcy? When the documentary was done, what did you feel like you came away with when you asked the question, how does the psychic ability, ESP remote viewing, how does all of that connect with the UAP phenomenon?

You know, whenever you hear about people that have been either an experiencer of a UFO or possibly met a non-human intelligence, there always is this conversation about a internal mind-to-mind dialogue or communication. sometimes it's pictures, sometimes it's words. People have seen UFOs and felt like words beamed into their heads, right? I feel like it's possible in the future that we may make a breakthrough and communicate mind to mind through through technology or possibly like changing our biology. and I think it's also possible that non-human intelligence that originate from elsewhere

may have made those breakthroughs as well and they can connect with our brain, which is like this universal receiver for non-local communication. The documentary is amazing. You did an amazing work as usual. I got to ask you this before you're done. and I ask this because I've experienced it myself when researching a topic or making an episode or whatever it might be.

There's always something that I come across that I did not expect. And it kind of just throws me for a loop, maybe it takes me in a different direction that I wasn't expecting. What happened with you? And maybe nothing happened, but I'm assuming it did. What happened with you during the production of this documentary where you said to yourself,

wow, I was not expecting to learn this or to end up going this way when it comes to this topic? My son was born and my priorities shifted. Yeah. That'll do it. Yeah. That's for sure. Was it something where,

but it's like, like a research purpose and like an interview? Well, I guess I just like, you know, I want to always pursue these stories because I find it fascinating and I'm, you know, believer some of, I believe, I believe lots of it is real. But when you bring somebody into this world and, you know, with the aid of your partner, it's just like a little miracle that you experience and you realize how precious life is.

And you just know that we need to make this world better, a better place because we're, These are who are inheriting it and we got to look out for them. Absolutely. Yeah, well said. Congratulations, by the way, on the birth of your son. That is fantastic. Everything going good so far? Yeah, it's going all right.

All right. Going through diapers like there's no tomorrow, all that good stuff. Yeah, the bags under my eyes are growing. You know. You get it. It's all good, man. Well, enjoy it. And thanks for coming on here.

How can everybody find the film? Psychics and the phenomenon. Where can they get it? How can they follow you? Make sure that they're getting everything that they need to. Yeah, sure. They can see it on Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Google Play to start. You want to follow me on social media, Twitter. I'm at Occult Journeys on Facebook, just Darcy Weir, Instagram, Darcy Weir Films. My studio site is occultjourneys.com.

and YouTube. I have a free documentary up there right now. It's just Puerto Rico's UAP based on my exploits in Puerto Rico with Indie and Jorge Martin and a bunch of other people that brought this story together about experiencers in Puerto Rico

and the UFO UAAP phenomenon around the island. That's free to watch there. So yeah. Awesome. Hit me up. I'm always down to talk with people. Yeah, fantastic. Darcy, weir, thanks so much for coming on here to you AP. Obviously, we'll stay in touch and look forward to talking to you again soon. Thanks, brother. Thank you, you too. Take care.

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parenthood with current projects or work. So I completely understand where Darcy was coming from when we talk about becoming a new father. So all the best to him and trying to navigate those waters and trying to juggle both. I'm sure we've all, we've all been there before for the most part. So my best to Darcy, because that's, that's great. There's nothing, there's nothing better than that. As crazy as the kids make us, there's nothing better, at least in my opinion.

And I must say, just aside from the, of course, general discussion behind remote viewing and all those who have done it and studied it and what they've seen over the years, two things that really stuck out to me were actually outside of the remote viewing realm, more into the phenomenon side, and one of them being the psychic side, such as how animals can have a connection with us. And I've seen that, like I mentioned at the beginning of the episode, with Darcy, I saw that with my own dog.

And it's just, I wonder how many other people have noticed that with their pets. Maybe not even a dog. It could be another pet. But there seems to be something like that. So that really stuck out to me when Darcy mentioned that. And the other side of things with Edgar Mitchell, I have always found him to be someone worthy of discussion and worthy of research because he was so open and so matter of fact when it came to what he said was, you know, the existence of extraterrestrials, the other life out there. And so when we speak about Edgar Mitchell as an astronaut and how he mentioned on recording, NASA recording, saying that, oh, they're here again, who's they?

What were they talking about? Of course, we don't have a clear answer for that, but it is kind of weird. It does make you wonder when they're in space, and he's saying they're here again. It sounds like he's talking about some type of being. So those are a couple of things that just stuck out to me, even outside of the remote viewing

or human psychic connections to the extraterrestrial phenomenon. Those are two things that, outside of that discussion, I really took away from this. So I hope you enjoyed those parts as well And anything else that stuck out to you But thank you again too Darcy I really really enjoyed that conversation And it will not be the last time I cover that topic

I can all but guarantee you that But coming up on a new episode of UAP I really want to cover it's something that I've kept my eye on For the past few weeks I would say three or four weeks And I think I really am ready now To kind of dive into it and talk about What is happening with the interstellar

object. Now, the news is out there, of course, everybody talks about it. It's all over social media. It's on the news, on different, you know, national news broadcasts with 3-E-A-Atlas. And I really, myself, want to kind of cover it from my own angle. What is happening with it? What's everybody saying about it? What's really going on? What are the possibilities? So I really just want to kind of dig into that subject. And hopefully I'll be able to do that and present that to you in a brand-new episode, coming out in my plan is just another few days. So I'm going to work on that and hopefully have out a new presentation on just covering that subject of 3i, 3i Atlas. What do we know about it?

What's really happening? No, there's, you know, no panic as far as what I plan on doing with it. It's not going to be panic-inducing. It's not going to be, oh, my gosh, the sky is falling. Or a solid answer, you know, 100% one way or the other. It's aliens or it's a comet. It's an asteroid. It's a media.

We're all going to die. No, it's not what I'm trying to do. I just want to present what's happening, what's the research saying, what are people saying about it, and just try to make sense of all of that. So I'm going to do that coming up on a new episode of UAP, and I look forward to really digging into that and doing the research and presenting it to you on UAP coming up. And hopefully just a few days from right now on the release of this episode. But until then, continue to make sure that you download and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts. please do that. We're on Amazon, on Spotify, on Apple, wherever you get your podcasts,

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