UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 165 Addressing the Elephant in the Room - ET's and Nukes *Plus, a Special Announcement*
Episode Date: October 24, 2025Will the realization that ET's have been interfering with our nuclear weapons be a wake up call to the general populace? Stephen Diener and Steve Bassett go into detail about this topic and h...ow it was something that may have been overlooked during George Knapp's recent congressional testimony. That, and a major teaser about the release of a never before seen UFO video that may truly shock the world...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome back into UAP.
So happy to have you back.
Stephen Dean are here with you, as always,
on the Unidentified Alien Podcasts for episode number 165.
Hello, where we're getting up there, aren't we?
And it's all thanks to you because you keep coming back.
And I truly, truly appreciate that because I love doing it here with you on UAP.
And I'm excited to finish off this conversation today with our good buddy, Steve Bassett,
because as you heard in part one, we got into a lot about how the Age of Disclosure documentary might play
for future conversations within this field.
How is that going to push things forward?
And, of course, you know, there's a great discussion about that.
And also kind of finished off right before we got into Steve Bassett's thoughts on George Knapp.
And I really wanted to ask him about that.
As I mentioned at the end of part one, I really wanted to bring up specifically his thoughts
on George Knapp's testimony during the UAP hearing because I kind of felt that after everything,
the big takeaways and everything that got the attention,
George Knapp's testimony, I felt, didn't get enough attention.
And he said some really provocative, important things that had never been talked about
in a congressional setting like that.
So I wanted to ask Steve about that because, as you'll hear it to start off here,
we're going to pick up right where we left off in the conversation that, you know,
Steve Bassett was in the room just as I was.
And you'll hear us start off the conversation that way.
So we get into that as well as asking Steve,
personally, some of the things that he has been intrigued by over the years, the different
stories that have stuck with him and why.
And there were a couple of other things that we got to that I'll fully explain or I'll try
to explain after we're done with the conversation, but I will say that I did have to cut
it short, unfortunately, because, and you might hear it here and there, and it's, again,
unfortunate.
It was kind of out of my control, but there was a lot of background noise during,
our conversation and some of it was just for me I was just like I it's just too much I couldn't put it out
there was just too much background noise in some of it unfortunately that was just a circumstance there was
actually a lot that happened uh this day when Steve and I were talking just some behind the scenes as
to why I had to make that that executive decision if you will uh there was there was internet issues in
steve's building he had to go to another room uh just to be able to record and unfortunately that room was
of in a public area. And in some cases, especially toward the end of our conversation, the background
noise, the background conversation that were taking place between other people was just too much
to bear. And it was, I mean, not Steve's fault, not anybody's fault, but it was just unerable,
if I'm being honest. So at the end of this, you might hear that it kind of ends abruptly. I don't
think it does. I mean, I think it kind of ends at a good spot from what we were talking about at
the end of this episode, but I'll come back and kind of relate the other things that I wasn't able
to air. And also, there's a special announcement to make. No, it's not about UAP Investigates.
Let me just put that out there right now. I know I've been talking about that special series
that I have coming out. UAP Investigates. You can subscribe to that right now, by the way,
because that will be coming out soon. So you might as well go ahead and get that out of the way
before it premieres. That way you're the first to hear it. But it has nothing to do with UAP.
he investigates, but it is, I think, hugely important.
And I think it's going to be something that ends up being, hopefully, hopefully ends up
being something that pushes this conversation way forward.
I don't want to use the term game changer because I think it's overused and I don't want
to hype it up too much.
But there is something really important that I want to tell you that, tell you about,
that is going to be coming up.
So all that said, get to the second part here with myself and Steve Bassett on this episode of UAP.
Enjoy.
You and I were both in D.C. for the hearing.
You and I were both in the room.
And I think we agree that it was a significant hearing.
There were things that, some big takeaways, some big attention getters that day.
Of course, one of them being the Burleson video of the Hellfire missile hitting that unidentified objects.
the testimony from Dylan Borland.
There was a few things there that really caught people's attention as far as Chief Wiggins,
Jeff Newsatelli.
But there was someone that spoke that is really, I would say, a luminary in the UFO world,
and that is George Knapp.
And I feel like there was a lot of stuff that George Knapp said, Steve, that I hate to say,
got overlooked or overshadowed, but there was just so much that happened that day that's,
I think some of the really important things and important things,
important names and instances that he mentioned didn't really get the intention that it deserved,
quite frankly. So do you agree with that? And what were your takeaways from George Knapp specifically
from that hearing? Absolutely. First of all, let me just say this, folks, when you, when you watch
these hearings, any video or photos or anything they turn up, just don't make a big deal out of them.
They're not that important. Okay. A video or a photo.
is it's not there are no smoking guns like that and and all of them are vulnerable to it can be problematic
the evidence for the ET presence is overwhelming you don't need to see another picture to say oh yeah yeah
now it now I know no it's about the testimony that's what you want to focus on now here's why
george knapp is so important okay well let me put it this way in the first hearing we had three
Air Force guys, or Navy guys, right, Navy Flyers.
And, well, I'm sorry, two Navy Flyers and, of course, the intelligence guy, crush.
In the second hearing, we did have a journalist, and that was Schellenberger, and then the rest were government and so forth.
And so that was kind of a breakthrough.
And then when the third hearing, they brought in another journalist, only this is not.
any journalists.
They brought in a journalist
who has probably done more
investigation as a journalist
mainstream journalist than any
other in the world, period.
Everybody's come close.
Yeah. Okay.
And so he's carrying
around in his brain an unbelievable
amount of information that
it's there because when you're a journalist
and you're investigative journalist
and you have to put together
a report and investigate it
to write up articles. It burns it into your brain.
And so when George walks in that door, he's just not another government guy who worked on maybe a program that might have had an ET connection, right?
He is somebody that has been looking at this issue for decades, doing actual investigations, talking with people on the record, off the record, and accumulating a huge body of knowledge, which could easily have never made it in front of,
the Congress because, you know, they want, they want firsthand witnesses. That's what they always
want that firsthand witnesses. Right, right. But Schellenberger was an exception, and I,
and I was wondering if they would continue with that. And, of course, George walks in. Well,
let me tell you. Okay. That opened the door to a lot of things. Now, some people will say,
well, look, he didn't have a classified thing. He didn't work, you know, in the Pentagon or anything.
And so why do I care? No, that's silly. So let's go back over that hearing a little bit.
bit and tell you, let me mention for some that maybe are not familiar with it, the kind of things
that took place.
Yeah, please.
Okay.
That caught, I'm sitting there and a couple of things just, whoa, my just, right, just really sat up and said, whoa.
Yeah.
That was a big deal.
Right.
All right.
And so, first of all, one of the most significant things that is going on in the background that I am involved in, but there are others that are involved in, I assure you.
is that the it is my view that the most important witnesses to test that need to testify in front of a hearing right now are in fact the witnesses to nuclear weapons tampering.
You can't get more national security than that.
The witnesses are in some case sack-based commanders.
I mean, my God, you can't get more serious people than that.
All right.
And the implications.
In other words, it's one thing to say, I saw something come out of the water and then fly away at extraordinary speed.
That's important.
Okay.
Why they were in the water, where they were going?
We don't know.
But it would confirm that if that is something humans can't build, hey, that justifies the ET presence.
And there's a lot of testimony along those lines.
Okay.
Crash vehicle recoveries.
Okay.
That's a very big thing.
What's different about the nuke witnesses?
It's simple.
It's not that, oh, we saw a nook, we saw a sighting, right?
It was not an airplane.
And it was, we saw it in the sky and we want to tell you about it.
No.
We were present when one of those craft was hovering over a nuclear ICBM facility and turn the missiles off.
Yeah.
Turn the missiles all off.
once, but several times, three times in the span of six months, twice at Malmstrom, one at
minor. That's 30 missiles. And for a number of years, there were many, some of the witnesses
that were present that could have testified have died off because the government has denied this
completely. They don't want to touch this. This is something they have gone, everything they can,
short of killing people, I believe, to ghost this issue and hope to God it just never gets in front
of Congress. But it is about to. All right. And, and so now when you get into something like that,
it's more than, gee, I have a saucer and we're working on it and I want to tell you about it,
is I was present when the extraterrestrials, the technologically advanced non-humans,
did something with potentially incredible implications for the human race. Yeah. More incredible,
more, more,
uh,
implicative than, you know,
cutting up a cow and taking
its blood. I mean, that's, that happens too.
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the implications of that and where that could go once we engage that issue are extraordinary.
And so the fact that these men are ready to testify has been a problem.
So we're getting close to that.
That's why they put that article in the Wall Street Journal.
Right.
Right.
And so that is on my mind as this hearing takes place.
Okay.
And so the first thing that happens is one of the witnesses.
And I think it was, it wasn't Wiggins.
It was the gentleman on the end.
Jeff Newsomtele?
Yes, yes.
In his, he happened to mention in his statement, he may have mentioned Bob Salas' name briefly.
Okay. And I noted that, but it was just, it just kind of passed, right?
It didn't go anywhere, but he mentioned it. I'm going, okay, that's important.
And then we go on further and we get to George Knapp.
Yeah.
And so when there, now, now I had already read George Knapp's written submission prior to testify.
Okay.
And in that written submission, he wrote about the fact that about his research in Russia.
All right.
He went over there a couple of times and his extraordinary stuff that he did, right?
And it was done.
He put it out there and then we move on, right?
But in his research in Russia, he learned through documents and maybe interviews that he took that an incident occurred in Russia that was not a shutdown, but a turn on.
And this is when a craft hovers over the base or the facility.
And instead of turning all the missiles off, it sets them all into launch mode.
And he was forwarded that years ago.
All right. So it's not that it wasn't out there. But now it's it's just it's it's an statement to the committee. And so now it's time to interview him. All right. And so when they it when they when it when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they, uh, when they, uh, when they, uh, the first thing they do is they read their statement. And so each one had done that. So I'm, I'm waiting for George to read a statement because I want him to get to that that research. Okay. This is a really big deal. But it was a long statement.
And so he gets just up to when he's going to get into the Russia research.
And Aluna, I think, breaks it there to show a film, the other film, which again, I just put it aside, folks.
I just don't think that is going to be a big deal.
Just relax.
Again, it's hard to be absolutely certain about that kind of thing.
These films without extensive analysis and research, whatever.
Anyway, so it's at the film.
And then she comes back. Now, he goes into the question mode.
Now, I don't know if this was the case, but I'm sitting there and I'm going,
she's got to get to the Russian stuff. She's got to get to the Russia's stuff.
Okay. And so at some point, because I happened to have Representative Berluson's number,
I texted him, you know, please bring up, you know, the Russian stuff and the nuclear thing.
And so lo and behold, that's what happened.
After a short amount of time, he brings it up.
And at that point, George Knapp, who was not a witness to it, brings up his research in Russia that, as far as he was concerned, confirmed, there was an incident where E.T. Kraft, hovered over the base, turned the missiles on.
There's some evidence that Robert Hastings came across it.
You can find it in UFOs and nukes, that that happened.
happened here as well.
Yeah.
Right?
The, the nukes were turned on.
And at the point they were about to launch, they turned back off.
At that point, of course, the two guys down in the silo or lying on the ground, you know, clutching their chest.
Right.
Okay.
And so that came out.
That was a major milestone.
It was the first time that a nuclear tampering event was brought up under oath in a hearing in front of Congress.
And I'm sure the Department of Defense probably just coughed up a fur ball there.
I mean, they just went, oh, my God, we don't want this.
And I'm sitting there just saying, this is fantastic.
Right.
Okay.
And so that's George Knapp.
That's the way they got it in.
Okay.
And so that is a major thing.
And, and again, it's worth noting that it was after that hearing that Representative Berluson,
did in fact meet in his office for 40 minutes.
It was fully filmed.
It's on the internet.
And he interviewed Bob Salas.
The reason that Minot and Mounstrom are the three most referred to events like this,
because there are other events mentioned in Robert Haystons' masterpiece, UFOs and Nukes,
is because of Bob Salas.
He was there for one of these three incidents that occurred over a six-month span.
And that, of course, was Mounstrum.
And he decided to come from.
forward in 1994 and for the last 30 years he has been leading a personal campaign to get these witnesses
to testify and they haven't yet but the ones that are still alive and there are a limited number
which includes Robert Jacobs who's not witnessed to a shutdown he was witness to the tampering of a
nuclear dummy warhead and a missile moving 8,000 he filmed it when he was shown the film later in
in his commander's office, a couple of guys in suits took the film.
They've never seen it since, and they told them, you know, never talk about this.
It never happened.
Since then, two people have said they've seen the film, so apparently it still exists.
And so we want Jacobs to testify in the process of getting that film out.
Imagine what that would have.
An Air Force filmed event with high-tech Air Force cameras watching a saucer
flying around a missile at 8,000 miles an hour,
shooting beams at and knocking a warhead off.
That's going to be more difficult for the DOD
to come up with some stupid ass explanation for
and stick it in the Wall Street Journal.
So that is what is going through my mind
as George Knapp has now brought that into play.
And his testimony about Russia in general
and other things means that,
and I don't know what's happened with George since then,
but if I was, you know, major paper, and of course there's other things going on,
but the New York Times, Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal should be all over him.
They should be out there right now with reporters picking his brain.
This guy's got enough for 10 stories in these papers.
And so George has been bought into play.
That one thing was a major contribution of that hearing.
And there were other aspects of, of course, were important without question.
And so it was an important hearing.
And I was very thrilled.
Where we go with the next one depends on which witnesses are willing to testify.
But the thing I want to state clearly here is that the nuclear witnesses who have absolute solid backgrounds, right, that are documented.
Two of them are sack-based commanders, right, are ready to testify next week.
And I don't know if they're getting any calls.
from un-named people working with a DOD or something saying,
we don't want you to test.
I have no idea.
And in fact, if they were, it wouldn't matter.
They want to testify.
So they're available.
All right.
So I hear a lot about, well, we couldn't get this person.
We couldn't get that person.
And some of them are stepping back because they don't think they have maybe the level of
witness protection they would prefer to have.
I get that.
And that will improve, I believe.
however, these gentlemen are ready to testify right now.
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Now, I would not be surprised if
individuals associated with the truth embargo,
whether they're in the DOD or intelligence,
has made some efforts behind the scenes to sort of,
how would you say, stall that, meaning we'd really not, we would prefer not to see those people in front of a hearing, you know?
Maybe, look, there's other things we're willing to help you with, but we don't want that now.
Whatever.
It wouldn't surprise me at all because that is a hearing they just don't want to see.
but the fact is there's been a doc there's been a book it's out there plenty of people know about it
this has been out for a long time thanks to the work of robert salas and so i have seated every single
every single member of the oversight subcommittee and the task force as well as the senate
intelligence committee has received copies of the witness statements a couple are dead but
but at least we have their affidavit, their witness statement.
Everyone has got more than one, actually, two hard copies.
I've also sent emails with video links to,
such as their testimony in front of the citizen hearing on disclosure in 2013.
So it's there, it's up there.
The question is, will they go there?
I'm not going to stop until they get to testify.
And they will eventually get to testify, but they are old.
they're in their 80s.
Yeah.
Now, another reason that the DOD is probably a little skittish
is that if they testify,
that opens the door for another group of people to testify.
And that are the security personnel.
You see, when the nukes were shut down,
there were X number of security people
that are up top, right, within the perimeter.
Their job is to make sure nobody breaks in
to the ICBM facility.
And so they are the ones that physically saw the craft.
And let me tell you.
And one of the witnesses, like one of the witnesses that was involved in the, I think
the turning on of the missiles again, testified that when he arrived at the site and went in,
one or more of the one at least one of the the security men were literally curled up in a ball
they were so upset so upset they were like curled up in a ball wow shaking right because that thing
was hanging right over the base and and so at maunstrom and mine it twice you've got i'm sorry
mine it and mausdram twice all of those security guys
saw it firsthand.
What happened after that is that they were all immediately reassigned to the far corners of
the earth, including Vietnam.
They were undoubtedly given statements about, don't ever talk about this.
And by and large, that has been the case.
They were younger.
So they're right now more likely in their 70s than 80s, right?
mid-70s. And so if the nuke officers are able to testify, it's possible that some of these
gentlemen may come forward. There's one, I believe, Mario Woods that falls in this category.
If I've got that right, he was one of those, and he had a terrible time. In other words,
they got on his case pretty badly, if I have that correctly. But there are others. And so they could
come forward. And the whole thing gets completely out of hand. I don't think the truth embargo can
survive formal under oath testimony of the people witness to the shutting down of these
nukes. I just don't think so. At that point, the demand for a clear statement from the White
House is just going to be overpowering. Yeah. And I think that's why the Department of Defense has
been really tough on this one. But they knew they couldn't just destroy these new command
officers, that could have literally created a mutiny in the Strategic Air Command, you know,
disappearing commanders because, you know, they witnessed this or trying to disgrace them.
And so they just ignored them.
They ghosted them, and that's how they've dealt with it.
Of course, once they testify in front of a hearing, that's over.
So this is kind of a, when people talk about disclosure is dead or, you know, there's an end of a cycle
and we've got to wait for another second.
I would suggest they're not fully aware of everything that's going on.
In other words, in any given time, at any given time,
there are one or more components of the disclosure process operating.
Maybe some have had to step back,
but there's always something, some aspects of disclosure activism moving forward.
It never is otherwise.
I'm curious, and gosh, and you're right.
I mean, there's so much to take away from that, from those moments.
I was taking it back to, in a good way.
I was excited like you to hear Bob Salas's name come up from Eric Burleson
and for George Napp to start talking about those subjects.
It was the first time I had really heard it in that setting.
So it felt big.
It's the first time anybody heard it in that setting.
It was, right?
Okay, so I'm not going crazy.
I thought so.
Yeah.
I didn't know.
I was pretty sure about that.
I'm curious, kind of switching gears here a little bit, Steve, just your own history.
You know, we've spoken so much about, you know, I've had you, we've been on the show here together.
I've been privileged enough to have you on here now a handful of times.
And we speak kind of about what's happening all around us, right?
But I've never actually spoken to you about you and what's happened in your life, things that you've come across.
Why did you become interested in this?
So I'm curious.
I was thinking about this earlier to myself when I thought about things I wanted to ask you about.
I'm like, what about Steve Bassett?
So I'm curious about you and what happens maybe something early on in your life.
Did you see something?
Did you experience something?
Or was it just a natural curiosity that brought you to this topic?
And that has propelled you forward for decades now in this discussion.
I can assure you that I am way less interesting than the subject itself.
It's just there's not a lot of there there.
I'm curious.
Essentially, it's a simple thing.
I, well, that's actually more than simple.
I was born about six months after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima.
I'm sorry, I was conceived six months after they bombed Hiroshima,
and I was born about six months before Roswell.
So I literally began life in between these two things,
which are connected, believe it or not, in a very important way.
I started reading a lot of science fiction when I was young.
I loved it.
And so I'm into that.
It's hard not to like science fiction.
And then went off to try to lead a life that really didn't go well.
I just had a lot of issues, a lot of problems, as many people did.
I wasn't coming together.
So I got, I studied physics, but ultimately I couldn't pursue it.
So after I got my BS, I wandered into other things.
And so essentially, at the age of 49,
I hit a point where I need to make a decision.
What are you going to do with your life?
Because what you're doing now is not really adding up to hell of a lot.
And this issue, I was aware of it.
I knew about it.
Never joined anything.
Didn't get involved.
Didn't do research.
But I was aware of it.
And I read some books.
And something came together for me in 1995 that I thought about this a little more.
I went to my first conference.
That was interesting.
And then I discovered John Mack's book, Abduction.
And when I read that book and realized what this college, this, this Pulitzer Prize winning Harvard psychologist, head of the, I think the Department of Psychology at the hospital, was doing seriously studying contactees and trying to develop, you know, get some professional papers written and so forth.
Yeah. And held a symposium at MIT on the MIT campus.
I mean, I know about Bud Hopkins.
I knew about the issue of contact.
I know about Betty and Barney Hill.
I was pretty much convinced that was all the truth.
They were telling the truth.
I said, this issue is about to become a very big thing.
And I'd like to maybe that's what I should do.
It's obviously exciting and interesting.
But something else happened at that time.
Is it I'd spent my whole life trying to basically have
that life, you know, make money, build up a, you know, an estate, right, a retirement plan,
all that kind of stuff. And it just wasn't working out. And so I think I decided at that age
that what I wanted to do was serve, that that is about as rewarding as anything. And there's a lot
of people that have talked about that. How to serve. So I volunteered for John's operation and
and then decided to go into the politics of this, essentially as an activist.
Yeah.
And have been serving ever since.
Do you feel like you're more interested now and more driven now than you were 30 years ago when you first got into this?
When I started to get a full understanding of the implications of this ET presence and obviously the new connection, which was really a big deal.
There's a reason I called it the Paradigm Research Group.
Because it's going to be the biggest paradigm shift in history in the world ever.
That's probably the same reason why Dan Sheen called his organization the New Paradigm Institute.
Something else that's going on here, Steve, that has gained a lot of attention.
Someone that I know you and I both know is Avi Loeb.
And Avi has been everywhere the past couple months talking about 3-E-A-Atlas, the interstellar object.
And I've spoken about it here on the show.
I've done some studies on it.
I've done some presentations on it here on the show.
What have you made out of that when it comes to, you know,
because we talk about the momentum.
We talk about, you know, is there a lull in the UFO conversation right now as a whole?
It seems like, you know, aside from any lull that we might feel,
it seems like any momentum or any conversation is going all towards three eye atlas.
And Avi Loba has been a big part of that.
What has been your takeaway about this interstellar object and all the talk that's been made about it?
and even some of the speculation about what it might or might not be.
That's a big deal.
It is.
It's not from our solar system.
It may have been traveling for billions of years.
Think about that.
There's a lot of people paying a lot of attention to this.
And how excited about it and wondering, could it be, could it be, could it be?
And that reflects the public's interest in what's out there.
Okay.
And by out there, I don't mean more stars and galaxies.
There are plenty of those, but maybe something living out there.
And that just reflects the fact that the awareness of the ET situation is huge.
And we're going to jump on anything, right, that could have a connection to the ET issue,
whether it's evidence of ancient presence as turning up in,
ancient aliens all the time and and a lot of it's pretty damn interesting and I think I happen to think
it's confirming I mean there's stuff stuff there that confirms ancient inter-engagement the mummies
and that I think in fact are in fact real and reflect something important but whether it's ET I don't
know thanks to Jesse Michaels he finally sorted that out yeah because it was getting pretty crazy but
that's something important there's any any possible ET connection people are jumping on it
That reflects the fact that, one, the interest is there.
Two, that people engage it in a good way.
And three, that we can handle the truth, right?
We could have always handled the truth.
And any time somebody says, you know, seriously, that we can't handle the truth,
I grip my teeth a little bit, you know, and say things inside my head that I would prefer not to say properly.
What has been your favorite story, Steve?
There's just been so many instances and occurrences over the decades.
What are some that you have stuck with you over time, where if you talk to somebody who's not really into the topic and they say to you, you know, kind of flippantly, oh, you believe in that stuff?
How could you believe in that stuff?
What are some of the stories that you would come up with and say, well, here's how?
there are amazing stories in the history of this truth embargo and ET presence and of course some have been documented some have been in actual movies the Travis Walton case which I know a good deal about is fascinating in a lot of levels
some of the ones that emotionally have affected me the kids the Rua and Westall cases it turns out that the ETs have landed near schools many times not just the two
best known cases.
And similar things have happened.
They leave the craft.
Kids rush up.
They give them messages and they fly away.
Ruha's the best known because John Mack
interviewed it.
I studied, went down, interviewed these kids.
There's a film.
There's a doc.
There's a film.
Aerial school by Randy Nickerson.
I recommend people watch that.
And these are just still kids.
And they give them these messages of pending disaster,
pending destruction, images,
which is kind of traumatic.
They do it with contact ease as well.
It's a warning that they're giving to kids.
You're getting into this field.
It's motivating and you get into it,
but it's not an easy thing,
whether you're a journalist or whether you're a researcher
or whether you're an activist or anything else.
The government continues to deny there's anything there
and you're up against the entire might of the state.
And that is where we will end our conversation.
Again, I hope it wasn't too abrupt there, but I hope you enjoyed the conversations between Steve and I during this two-part series here on UAP.
But again, you know, I had to do that just because the final minutes were just, like I said at the beginning, quite frankly, just unerable, which I hate to say, and I wish the circumstances were different, but there was just because of the circumstances that, you know, we had to go through to make that interview happen, it just turned out that there were other people around and too much.
conversation in the background for me to even play it here. It just wouldn't have been good to hear.
But one of the things that we did talk about, and I mean, I can relate a little bit to you,
one of the things that we did talk about that is absolutely worth mentioning is I had asked Steve
toward the end, you know, what do you think is on the line for disclosure? When it comes towards
disclosure, what is on the line, in your opinion, for humanity? And, you know, he spoke about the
importance of not only having that truth out there, but also the importance of being able to
have the technology that, you know, ETs would, you know, purportedly have at our disposal for many
different reasons. I was, in fact, actually able to salvage a little bit, just a little bit
of this answer. So I can play that for you right now. But it happens that the ETs are here.
They are engaging us. They are demonstrating concerns.
for us, literally, in statements they're making to kids and to contact these, they're turning off our nuclear weapons.
They have extraordinary technology. And by and large, we have to have a technological solution. We need a worldview change, but we have to have a technological solution. A lot of our problems.
It's not like we're going to feed what will soon be 10 billion people by having good intentions. We're going to have technology that allows us to do that.
and I could go on and on, right?
E.A.T.s have that too.
So there you go. That kind of gives an idea of how that's,
last part of the conversation went when I asked Steve that question.
You know, what's really on the line here?
And he's very passionate about that as far as, you know,
how much that could help humanity, right?
If there is this advanced technology that could help medicine,
that could help, you know, feeding, starving people throughout the world,
that's kind of a big deal.
So it was, again, really interesting conversation with Steve, as it always is.
And so I'm really happy that he was able to come back on here and spend so much time together here on UAP.
And I'm glad that you got to hear it.
Now, I did mention something really important that I wanted to get to.
So here's what's going on.
On Sunday, so just a couple of days from now, I'm going to put out a greatest hits episode
that I've been wanting to get back out there for the past few months about underreported sightings.
and because I think those sightings in that episode that I did over a year ago still really applied today.
And I wanted to kind of bring that back to the forefront, put that back on the shelf for you to hear.
So in this episode that's going to come out on Sunday in this Greatest Hits episode,
be sure to tune into that because what I'm going to do in there is give a detailed explanation of what I'm going to be putting out.
And what's going to be happening here is that I have a video.
It's what I believe to be an extremely provocative video that shows a UFO caught on video from a military apparatus.
It's a video that was given to me about maybe three or four weeks ago.
And it's been something that I've been wrestling with as far as how to handle this.
I can tell you that the video is real, and it shows a UFO in a situation that I don't think anybody's ever seen before, at least in the public sphere.
It's not a classified video, so I'm going to put that out there right now.
It's just that it's never been shown.
So I go into more detail during this greatest hits episode that's going to come out on Sunday.
So tune into that.
It's right at the start of the episode.
I wanted to put it in there just so I could properly frame it and not take up too much time for what I just did here with Steve Batson.
So on the greatest hits episode that's going to come out on Sunday, tune into that about underreported sightings.
And actually, I think they went quite well together considering what is in this video.
So I go into detail at the start of that greatest hits episode coming out in just a couple of days.
So if you're not already following along on social media at UA Podcast 850 and downloading and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast and all the major platforms,
be sure to do it now for sure because I'm going to put this video out.
in my opinion there is a a holy bleep if you will a holy bleep moment maybe a couple of holy bleep moments
during this video that's just that's just my opinion and I'll explain to full detail what
that is coming up on that greatest hits episode it's and then I'll be putting that out pretty soon
so all the details there if you'd like to listen along but until next time sorry to leave a
cliffhanger there, but that's
the situation.
Like I said, continue to download and
subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts
and all the major platforms. And
like I said, follow along on social media
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on all the big platforms there.
But on that note, thanks again so much for joining
during this two-part series. Can't wait to come back
with you and talk to you more about this
in detail as the days go on.
A lot to come up here on UAP.
So until next time, it's Stephen Deiner here
saying be well. Thanks so much.
We'll talk again soon right here on UAP.
Always appreciate the support here on the Unantitified Alien Podcast.
Thanks.
