UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 165 Addressing the Elephant in the Room - ET's and Nukes *Plus, a Special Announcement*

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Will the realization that ET's have been interfering with our nuclear weapons be a wake up call to the general populace? Stephen Diener and Steve Bassett go into detail about this topic and h...ow it was something that may have been overlooked during George Knapp's recent congressional testimony. That, and a major teaser about the release of a never before seen UFO video that may truly shock the world...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:12 So happy to have you back. Stephen Dean are here with you, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcasts for episode number 165. Hello, where we're getting up there, aren't we? And it's all thanks to you because you keep coming back. And I truly, truly appreciate that because I love doing it here with you on UAP. And I'm excited to finish off this conversation today with our good buddy, Steve Bassett, because as you heard in part one, we got into a lot about how the Age of Disclosure documentary might play
Starting point is 00:01:39 for future conversations within this field. How is that going to push things forward? And, of course, you know, there's a great discussion about that. And also kind of finished off right before we got into Steve Bassett's thoughts on George Knapp. And I really wanted to ask him about that. As I mentioned at the end of part one, I really wanted to bring up specifically his thoughts on George Knapp's testimony during the UAP hearing because I kind of felt that after everything, the big takeaways and everything that got the attention,
Starting point is 00:02:11 George Knapp's testimony, I felt, didn't get enough attention. And he said some really provocative, important things that had never been talked about in a congressional setting like that. So I wanted to ask Steve about that because, as you'll hear it to start off here, we're going to pick up right where we left off in the conversation that, you know, Steve Bassett was in the room just as I was. And you'll hear us start off the conversation that way. So we get into that as well as asking Steve,
Starting point is 00:02:37 personally, some of the things that he has been intrigued by over the years, the different stories that have stuck with him and why. And there were a couple of other things that we got to that I'll fully explain or I'll try to explain after we're done with the conversation, but I will say that I did have to cut it short, unfortunately, because, and you might hear it here and there, and it's, again, unfortunate. It was kind of out of my control, but there was a lot of background noise during, our conversation and some of it was just for me I was just like I it's just too much I couldn't put it out
Starting point is 00:03:15 there was just too much background noise in some of it unfortunately that was just a circumstance there was actually a lot that happened uh this day when Steve and I were talking just some behind the scenes as to why I had to make that that executive decision if you will uh there was there was internet issues in steve's building he had to go to another room uh just to be able to record and unfortunately that room was of in a public area. And in some cases, especially toward the end of our conversation, the background noise, the background conversation that were taking place between other people was just too much to bear. And it was, I mean, not Steve's fault, not anybody's fault, but it was just unerable, if I'm being honest. So at the end of this, you might hear that it kind of ends abruptly. I don't
Starting point is 00:04:01 think it does. I mean, I think it kind of ends at a good spot from what we were talking about at the end of this episode, but I'll come back and kind of relate the other things that I wasn't able to air. And also, there's a special announcement to make. No, it's not about UAP Investigates. Let me just put that out there right now. I know I've been talking about that special series that I have coming out. UAP Investigates. You can subscribe to that right now, by the way, because that will be coming out soon. So you might as well go ahead and get that out of the way before it premieres. That way you're the first to hear it. But it has nothing to do with UAP. he investigates, but it is, I think, hugely important.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And I think it's going to be something that ends up being, hopefully, hopefully ends up being something that pushes this conversation way forward. I don't want to use the term game changer because I think it's overused and I don't want to hype it up too much. But there is something really important that I want to tell you that, tell you about, that is going to be coming up. So all that said, get to the second part here with myself and Steve Bassett on this episode of UAP. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You and I were both in D.C. for the hearing. You and I were both in the room. And I think we agree that it was a significant hearing. There were things that, some big takeaways, some big attention getters that day. Of course, one of them being the Burleson video of the Hellfire missile hitting that unidentified objects. the testimony from Dylan Borland. There was a few things there that really caught people's attention as far as Chief Wiggins, Jeff Newsatelli.
Starting point is 00:05:38 But there was someone that spoke that is really, I would say, a luminary in the UFO world, and that is George Knapp. And I feel like there was a lot of stuff that George Knapp said, Steve, that I hate to say, got overlooked or overshadowed, but there was just so much that happened that day that's, I think some of the really important things and important things, important names and instances that he mentioned didn't really get the intention that it deserved, quite frankly. So do you agree with that? And what were your takeaways from George Knapp specifically from that hearing? Absolutely. First of all, let me just say this, folks, when you, when you watch
Starting point is 00:06:17 these hearings, any video or photos or anything they turn up, just don't make a big deal out of them. They're not that important. Okay. A video or a photo. is it's not there are no smoking guns like that and and all of them are vulnerable to it can be problematic the evidence for the ET presence is overwhelming you don't need to see another picture to say oh yeah yeah now it now I know no it's about the testimony that's what you want to focus on now here's why george knapp is so important okay well let me put it this way in the first hearing we had three Air Force guys, or Navy guys, right, Navy Flyers. And, well, I'm sorry, two Navy Flyers and, of course, the intelligence guy, crush.
Starting point is 00:07:11 In the second hearing, we did have a journalist, and that was Schellenberger, and then the rest were government and so forth. And so that was kind of a breakthrough. And then when the third hearing, they brought in another journalist, only this is not. any journalists. They brought in a journalist who has probably done more investigation as a journalist mainstream journalist than any
Starting point is 00:07:39 other in the world, period. Everybody's come close. Yeah. Okay. And so he's carrying around in his brain an unbelievable amount of information that it's there because when you're a journalist and you're investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:07:53 and you have to put together a report and investigate it to write up articles. It burns it into your brain. And so when George walks in that door, he's just not another government guy who worked on maybe a program that might have had an ET connection, right? He is somebody that has been looking at this issue for decades, doing actual investigations, talking with people on the record, off the record, and accumulating a huge body of knowledge, which could easily have never made it in front of, the Congress because, you know, they want, they want firsthand witnesses. That's what they always want that firsthand witnesses. Right, right. But Schellenberger was an exception, and I, and I was wondering if they would continue with that. And, of course, George walks in. Well,
Starting point is 00:08:42 let me tell you. Okay. That opened the door to a lot of things. Now, some people will say, well, look, he didn't have a classified thing. He didn't work, you know, in the Pentagon or anything. And so why do I care? No, that's silly. So let's go back over that hearing a little bit. bit and tell you, let me mention for some that maybe are not familiar with it, the kind of things that took place. Yeah, please. Okay. That caught, I'm sitting there and a couple of things just, whoa, my just, right, just really sat up and said, whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. That was a big deal. Right. All right. And so, first of all, one of the most significant things that is going on in the background that I am involved in, but there are others that are involved in, I assure you. is that the it is my view that the most important witnesses to test that need to testify in front of a hearing right now are in fact the witnesses to nuclear weapons tampering. You can't get more national security than that. The witnesses are in some case sack-based commanders.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I mean, my God, you can't get more serious people than that. All right. And the implications. In other words, it's one thing to say, I saw something come out of the water and then fly away at extraordinary speed. That's important. Okay. Why they were in the water, where they were going? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But it would confirm that if that is something humans can't build, hey, that justifies the ET presence. And there's a lot of testimony along those lines. Okay. Crash vehicle recoveries. Okay. That's a very big thing. What's different about the nuke witnesses? It's simple.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It's not that, oh, we saw a nook, we saw a sighting, right? It was not an airplane. And it was, we saw it in the sky and we want to tell you about it. No. We were present when one of those craft was hovering over a nuclear ICBM facility and turn the missiles off. Yeah. Turn the missiles all off. once, but several times, three times in the span of six months, twice at Malmstrom, one at
Starting point is 00:11:02 minor. That's 30 missiles. And for a number of years, there were many, some of the witnesses that were present that could have testified have died off because the government has denied this completely. They don't want to touch this. This is something they have gone, everything they can, short of killing people, I believe, to ghost this issue and hope to God it just never gets in front of Congress. But it is about to. All right. And, and so now when you get into something like that, it's more than, gee, I have a saucer and we're working on it and I want to tell you about it, is I was present when the extraterrestrials, the technologically advanced non-humans, did something with potentially incredible implications for the human race. Yeah. More incredible,
Starting point is 00:11:52 more, more, uh, implicative than, you know, cutting up a cow and taking its blood. I mean, that's, that happens too. Right. So, Hey guys. So before we get back into the conversation,
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Starting point is 00:14:07 Right. Right. And so that is on my mind as this hearing takes place. Okay. And so the first thing that happens is one of the witnesses. And I think it was, it wasn't Wiggins. It was the gentleman on the end. Jeff Newsomtele?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yes, yes. In his, he happened to mention in his statement, he may have mentioned Bob Salas' name briefly. Okay. And I noted that, but it was just, it just kind of passed, right? It didn't go anywhere, but he mentioned it. I'm going, okay, that's important. And then we go on further and we get to George Knapp. Yeah. And so when there, now, now I had already read George Knapp's written submission prior to testify. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And in that written submission, he wrote about the fact that about his research in Russia. All right. He went over there a couple of times and his extraordinary stuff that he did, right? And it was done. He put it out there and then we move on, right? But in his research in Russia, he learned through documents and maybe interviews that he took that an incident occurred in Russia that was not a shutdown, but a turn on. And this is when a craft hovers over the base or the facility. And instead of turning all the missiles off, it sets them all into launch mode.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And he was forwarded that years ago. All right. So it's not that it wasn't out there. But now it's it's just it's it's an statement to the committee. And so now it's time to interview him. All right. And so when they it when they when it when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they when they, uh, when they, uh, when they, uh, the first thing they do is they read their statement. And so each one had done that. So I'm, I'm waiting for George to read a statement because I want him to get to that that research. Okay. This is a really big deal. But it was a long statement. And so he gets just up to when he's going to get into the Russia research. And Aluna, I think, breaks it there to show a film, the other film, which again, I just put it aside, folks. I just don't think that is going to be a big deal. Just relax. Again, it's hard to be absolutely certain about that kind of thing. These films without extensive analysis and research, whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Anyway, so it's at the film. And then she comes back. Now, he goes into the question mode. Now, I don't know if this was the case, but I'm sitting there and I'm going, she's got to get to the Russian stuff. She's got to get to the Russia's stuff. Okay. And so at some point, because I happened to have Representative Berluson's number, I texted him, you know, please bring up, you know, the Russian stuff and the nuclear thing. And so lo and behold, that's what happened. After a short amount of time, he brings it up.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And at that point, George Knapp, who was not a witness to it, brings up his research in Russia that, as far as he was concerned, confirmed, there was an incident where E.T. Kraft, hovered over the base, turned the missiles on. There's some evidence that Robert Hastings came across it. You can find it in UFOs and nukes, that that happened. happened here as well. Yeah. Right? The, the nukes were turned on. And at the point they were about to launch, they turned back off.
Starting point is 00:17:50 At that point, of course, the two guys down in the silo or lying on the ground, you know, clutching their chest. Right. Okay. And so that came out. That was a major milestone. It was the first time that a nuclear tampering event was brought up under oath in a hearing in front of Congress. And I'm sure the Department of Defense probably just coughed up a fur ball there. I mean, they just went, oh, my God, we don't want this.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And I'm sitting there just saying, this is fantastic. Right. Okay. And so that's George Knapp. That's the way they got it in. Okay. And so that is a major thing. And, and again, it's worth noting that it was after that hearing that Representative Berluson,
Starting point is 00:18:38 did in fact meet in his office for 40 minutes. It was fully filmed. It's on the internet. And he interviewed Bob Salas. The reason that Minot and Mounstrom are the three most referred to events like this, because there are other events mentioned in Robert Haystons' masterpiece, UFOs and Nukes, is because of Bob Salas. He was there for one of these three incidents that occurred over a six-month span.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And that, of course, was Mounstrum. And he decided to come from. forward in 1994 and for the last 30 years he has been leading a personal campaign to get these witnesses to testify and they haven't yet but the ones that are still alive and there are a limited number which includes Robert Jacobs who's not witnessed to a shutdown he was witness to the tampering of a nuclear dummy warhead and a missile moving 8,000 he filmed it when he was shown the film later in in his commander's office, a couple of guys in suits took the film. They've never seen it since, and they told them, you know, never talk about this.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It never happened. Since then, two people have said they've seen the film, so apparently it still exists. And so we want Jacobs to testify in the process of getting that film out. Imagine what that would have. An Air Force filmed event with high-tech Air Force cameras watching a saucer flying around a missile at 8,000 miles an hour, shooting beams at and knocking a warhead off. That's going to be more difficult for the DOD
Starting point is 00:20:16 to come up with some stupid ass explanation for and stick it in the Wall Street Journal. So that is what is going through my mind as George Knapp has now brought that into play. And his testimony about Russia in general and other things means that, and I don't know what's happened with George since then, but if I was, you know, major paper, and of course there's other things going on,
Starting point is 00:20:42 but the New York Times, Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal should be all over him. They should be out there right now with reporters picking his brain. This guy's got enough for 10 stories in these papers. And so George has been bought into play. That one thing was a major contribution of that hearing. And there were other aspects of, of course, were important without question. And so it was an important hearing. And I was very thrilled.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Where we go with the next one depends on which witnesses are willing to testify. But the thing I want to state clearly here is that the nuclear witnesses who have absolute solid backgrounds, right, that are documented. Two of them are sack-based commanders, right, are ready to testify next week. And I don't know if they're getting any calls. from un-named people working with a DOD or something saying, we don't want you to test. I have no idea. And in fact, if they were, it wouldn't matter.
Starting point is 00:21:48 They want to testify. So they're available. All right. So I hear a lot about, well, we couldn't get this person. We couldn't get that person. And some of them are stepping back because they don't think they have maybe the level of witness protection they would prefer to have. I get that.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And that will improve, I believe. however, these gentlemen are ready to testify right now. Wow. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee, Brooke Linnon, and Kylie. But what if people haven't heard about your brand? Well, Shopify helps you find your customers with easy-to-run email and social media campaigns. But what if you hit that wall and you get stuck somewhere?
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Starting point is 00:23:28 has made some efforts behind the scenes to sort of, how would you say, stall that, meaning we'd really not, we would prefer not to see those people in front of a hearing, you know? Maybe, look, there's other things we're willing to help you with, but we don't want that now. Whatever. It wouldn't surprise me at all because that is a hearing they just don't want to see. but the fact is there's been a doc there's been a book it's out there plenty of people know about it this has been out for a long time thanks to the work of robert salas and so i have seated every single every single member of the oversight subcommittee and the task force as well as the senate
Starting point is 00:24:23 intelligence committee has received copies of the witness statements a couple are dead but but at least we have their affidavit, their witness statement. Everyone has got more than one, actually, two hard copies. I've also sent emails with video links to, such as their testimony in front of the citizen hearing on disclosure in 2013. So it's there, it's up there. The question is, will they go there? I'm not going to stop until they get to testify.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And they will eventually get to testify, but they are old. they're in their 80s. Yeah. Now, another reason that the DOD is probably a little skittish is that if they testify, that opens the door for another group of people to testify. And that are the security personnel. You see, when the nukes were shut down,
Starting point is 00:25:18 there were X number of security people that are up top, right, within the perimeter. Their job is to make sure nobody breaks in to the ICBM facility. And so they are the ones that physically saw the craft. And let me tell you. And one of the witnesses, like one of the witnesses that was involved in the, I think the turning on of the missiles again, testified that when he arrived at the site and went in,
Starting point is 00:25:56 one or more of the one at least one of the the security men were literally curled up in a ball they were so upset so upset they were like curled up in a ball wow shaking right because that thing was hanging right over the base and and so at maunstrom and mine it twice you've got i'm sorry mine it and mausdram twice all of those security guys saw it firsthand. What happened after that is that they were all immediately reassigned to the far corners of the earth, including Vietnam. They were undoubtedly given statements about, don't ever talk about this.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And by and large, that has been the case. They were younger. So they're right now more likely in their 70s than 80s, right? mid-70s. And so if the nuke officers are able to testify, it's possible that some of these gentlemen may come forward. There's one, I believe, Mario Woods that falls in this category. If I've got that right, he was one of those, and he had a terrible time. In other words, they got on his case pretty badly, if I have that correctly. But there are others. And so they could come forward. And the whole thing gets completely out of hand. I don't think the truth embargo can
Starting point is 00:27:21 survive formal under oath testimony of the people witness to the shutting down of these nukes. I just don't think so. At that point, the demand for a clear statement from the White House is just going to be overpowering. Yeah. And I think that's why the Department of Defense has been really tough on this one. But they knew they couldn't just destroy these new command officers, that could have literally created a mutiny in the Strategic Air Command, you know, disappearing commanders because, you know, they witnessed this or trying to disgrace them. And so they just ignored them. They ghosted them, and that's how they've dealt with it.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Of course, once they testify in front of a hearing, that's over. So this is kind of a, when people talk about disclosure is dead or, you know, there's an end of a cycle and we've got to wait for another second. I would suggest they're not fully aware of everything that's going on. In other words, in any given time, at any given time, there are one or more components of the disclosure process operating. Maybe some have had to step back, but there's always something, some aspects of disclosure activism moving forward.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It never is otherwise. I'm curious, and gosh, and you're right. I mean, there's so much to take away from that, from those moments. I was taking it back to, in a good way. I was excited like you to hear Bob Salas's name come up from Eric Burleson and for George Napp to start talking about those subjects. It was the first time I had really heard it in that setting. So it felt big.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's the first time anybody heard it in that setting. It was, right? Okay, so I'm not going crazy. I thought so. Yeah. I didn't know. I was pretty sure about that. I'm curious, kind of switching gears here a little bit, Steve, just your own history.
Starting point is 00:29:22 You know, we've spoken so much about, you know, I've had you, we've been on the show here together. I've been privileged enough to have you on here now a handful of times. And we speak kind of about what's happening all around us, right? But I've never actually spoken to you about you and what's happened in your life, things that you've come across. Why did you become interested in this? So I'm curious. I was thinking about this earlier to myself when I thought about things I wanted to ask you about. I'm like, what about Steve Bassett?
Starting point is 00:29:49 So I'm curious about you and what happens maybe something early on in your life. Did you see something? Did you experience something? Or was it just a natural curiosity that brought you to this topic? And that has propelled you forward for decades now in this discussion. I can assure you that I am way less interesting than the subject itself. It's just there's not a lot of there there. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Essentially, it's a simple thing. I, well, that's actually more than simple. I was born about six months after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima. I'm sorry, I was conceived six months after they bombed Hiroshima, and I was born about six months before Roswell. So I literally began life in between these two things, which are connected, believe it or not, in a very important way. I started reading a lot of science fiction when I was young.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I loved it. And so I'm into that. It's hard not to like science fiction. And then went off to try to lead a life that really didn't go well. I just had a lot of issues, a lot of problems, as many people did. I wasn't coming together. So I got, I studied physics, but ultimately I couldn't pursue it. So after I got my BS, I wandered into other things.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And so essentially, at the age of 49, I hit a point where I need to make a decision. What are you going to do with your life? Because what you're doing now is not really adding up to hell of a lot. And this issue, I was aware of it. I knew about it. Never joined anything. Didn't get involved.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Didn't do research. But I was aware of it. And I read some books. And something came together for me in 1995 that I thought about this a little more. I went to my first conference. That was interesting. And then I discovered John Mack's book, Abduction. And when I read that book and realized what this college, this, this Pulitzer Prize winning Harvard psychologist, head of the, I think the Department of Psychology at the hospital, was doing seriously studying contactees and trying to develop, you know, get some professional papers written and so forth.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. And held a symposium at MIT on the MIT campus. I mean, I know about Bud Hopkins. I knew about the issue of contact. I know about Betty and Barney Hill. I was pretty much convinced that was all the truth. They were telling the truth. I said, this issue is about to become a very big thing. And I'd like to maybe that's what I should do.
Starting point is 00:32:31 It's obviously exciting and interesting. But something else happened at that time. Is it I'd spent my whole life trying to basically have that life, you know, make money, build up a, you know, an estate, right, a retirement plan, all that kind of stuff. And it just wasn't working out. And so I think I decided at that age that what I wanted to do was serve, that that is about as rewarding as anything. And there's a lot of people that have talked about that. How to serve. So I volunteered for John's operation and and then decided to go into the politics of this, essentially as an activist.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah. And have been serving ever since. Do you feel like you're more interested now and more driven now than you were 30 years ago when you first got into this? When I started to get a full understanding of the implications of this ET presence and obviously the new connection, which was really a big deal. There's a reason I called it the Paradigm Research Group. Because it's going to be the biggest paradigm shift in history in the world ever. That's probably the same reason why Dan Sheen called his organization the New Paradigm Institute. Something else that's going on here, Steve, that has gained a lot of attention.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Someone that I know you and I both know is Avi Loeb. And Avi has been everywhere the past couple months talking about 3-E-A-Atlas, the interstellar object. And I've spoken about it here on the show. I've done some studies on it. I've done some presentations on it here on the show. What have you made out of that when it comes to, you know, because we talk about the momentum. We talk about, you know, is there a lull in the UFO conversation right now as a whole?
Starting point is 00:34:21 It seems like, you know, aside from any lull that we might feel, it seems like any momentum or any conversation is going all towards three eye atlas. And Avi Loba has been a big part of that. What has been your takeaway about this interstellar object and all the talk that's been made about it? and even some of the speculation about what it might or might not be. That's a big deal. It is. It's not from our solar system.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It may have been traveling for billions of years. Think about that. There's a lot of people paying a lot of attention to this. And how excited about it and wondering, could it be, could it be, could it be? And that reflects the public's interest in what's out there. Okay. And by out there, I don't mean more stars and galaxies. There are plenty of those, but maybe something living out there.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And that just reflects the fact that the awareness of the ET situation is huge. And we're going to jump on anything, right, that could have a connection to the ET issue, whether it's evidence of ancient presence as turning up in, ancient aliens all the time and and a lot of it's pretty damn interesting and I think I happen to think it's confirming I mean there's stuff stuff there that confirms ancient inter-engagement the mummies and that I think in fact are in fact real and reflect something important but whether it's ET I don't know thanks to Jesse Michaels he finally sorted that out yeah because it was getting pretty crazy but that's something important there's any any possible ET connection people are jumping on it
Starting point is 00:36:00 That reflects the fact that, one, the interest is there. Two, that people engage it in a good way. And three, that we can handle the truth, right? We could have always handled the truth. And any time somebody says, you know, seriously, that we can't handle the truth, I grip my teeth a little bit, you know, and say things inside my head that I would prefer not to say properly. What has been your favorite story, Steve? There's just been so many instances and occurrences over the decades.
Starting point is 00:36:36 What are some that you have stuck with you over time, where if you talk to somebody who's not really into the topic and they say to you, you know, kind of flippantly, oh, you believe in that stuff? How could you believe in that stuff? What are some of the stories that you would come up with and say, well, here's how? there are amazing stories in the history of this truth embargo and ET presence and of course some have been documented some have been in actual movies the Travis Walton case which I know a good deal about is fascinating in a lot of levels some of the ones that emotionally have affected me the kids the Rua and Westall cases it turns out that the ETs have landed near schools many times not just the two best known cases. And similar things have happened. They leave the craft.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Kids rush up. They give them messages and they fly away. Ruha's the best known because John Mack interviewed it. I studied, went down, interviewed these kids. There's a film. There's a doc. There's a film.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Aerial school by Randy Nickerson. I recommend people watch that. And these are just still kids. And they give them these messages of pending disaster, pending destruction, images, which is kind of traumatic. They do it with contact ease as well. It's a warning that they're giving to kids.
Starting point is 00:38:01 You're getting into this field. It's motivating and you get into it, but it's not an easy thing, whether you're a journalist or whether you're a researcher or whether you're an activist or anything else. The government continues to deny there's anything there and you're up against the entire might of the state. And that is where we will end our conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Again, I hope it wasn't too abrupt there, but I hope you enjoyed the conversations between Steve and I during this two-part series here on UAP. But again, you know, I had to do that just because the final minutes were just, like I said at the beginning, quite frankly, just unerable, which I hate to say, and I wish the circumstances were different, but there was just because of the circumstances that, you know, we had to go through to make that interview happen, it just turned out that there were other people around and too much. conversation in the background for me to even play it here. It just wouldn't have been good to hear. But one of the things that we did talk about, and I mean, I can relate a little bit to you, one of the things that we did talk about that is absolutely worth mentioning is I had asked Steve toward the end, you know, what do you think is on the line for disclosure? When it comes towards disclosure, what is on the line, in your opinion, for humanity? And, you know, he spoke about the importance of not only having that truth out there, but also the importance of being able to
Starting point is 00:39:25 have the technology that, you know, ETs would, you know, purportedly have at our disposal for many different reasons. I was, in fact, actually able to salvage a little bit, just a little bit of this answer. So I can play that for you right now. But it happens that the ETs are here. They are engaging us. They are demonstrating concerns. for us, literally, in statements they're making to kids and to contact these, they're turning off our nuclear weapons. They have extraordinary technology. And by and large, we have to have a technological solution. We need a worldview change, but we have to have a technological solution. A lot of our problems. It's not like we're going to feed what will soon be 10 billion people by having good intentions. We're going to have technology that allows us to do that. and I could go on and on, right?
Starting point is 00:40:20 E.A.T.s have that too. So there you go. That kind of gives an idea of how that's, last part of the conversation went when I asked Steve that question. You know, what's really on the line here? And he's very passionate about that as far as, you know, how much that could help humanity, right? If there is this advanced technology that could help medicine, that could help, you know, feeding, starving people throughout the world,
Starting point is 00:40:44 that's kind of a big deal. So it was, again, really interesting conversation with Steve, as it always is. And so I'm really happy that he was able to come back on here and spend so much time together here on UAP. And I'm glad that you got to hear it. Now, I did mention something really important that I wanted to get to. So here's what's going on. On Sunday, so just a couple of days from now, I'm going to put out a greatest hits episode that I've been wanting to get back out there for the past few months about underreported sightings.
Starting point is 00:41:15 and because I think those sightings in that episode that I did over a year ago still really applied today. And I wanted to kind of bring that back to the forefront, put that back on the shelf for you to hear. So in this episode that's going to come out on Sunday in this Greatest Hits episode, be sure to tune into that because what I'm going to do in there is give a detailed explanation of what I'm going to be putting out. And what's going to be happening here is that I have a video. It's what I believe to be an extremely provocative video that shows a UFO caught on video from a military apparatus. It's a video that was given to me about maybe three or four weeks ago. And it's been something that I've been wrestling with as far as how to handle this.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I can tell you that the video is real, and it shows a UFO in a situation that I don't think anybody's ever seen before, at least in the public sphere. It's not a classified video, so I'm going to put that out there right now. It's just that it's never been shown. So I go into more detail during this greatest hits episode that's going to come out on Sunday. So tune into that. It's right at the start of the episode. I wanted to put it in there just so I could properly frame it and not take up too much time for what I just did here with Steve Batson. So on the greatest hits episode that's going to come out on Sunday, tune into that about underreported sightings.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And actually, I think they went quite well together considering what is in this video. So I go into detail at the start of that greatest hits episode coming out in just a couple of days. So if you're not already following along on social media at UA Podcast 850 and downloading and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast and all the major platforms, be sure to do it now for sure because I'm going to put this video out. in my opinion there is a a holy bleep if you will a holy bleep moment maybe a couple of holy bleep moments during this video that's just that's just my opinion and I'll explain to full detail what that is coming up on that greatest hits episode it's and then I'll be putting that out pretty soon so all the details there if you'd like to listen along but until next time sorry to leave a
Starting point is 00:43:38 cliffhanger there, but that's the situation. Like I said, continue to download and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and all the major platforms. And like I said, follow along on social media at UA Podcast 850 on all the big platforms there.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But on that note, thanks again so much for joining during this two-part series. Can't wait to come back with you and talk to you more about this in detail as the days go on. A lot to come up here on UAP. So until next time, it's Stephen Deiner here saying be well. Thanks so much. We'll talk again soon right here on UAP.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Always appreciate the support here on the Unantitified Alien Podcast. Thanks.

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