UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 174 The Language of Dreams

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Get ready to dive into this one. Stephen Diener welcomes in author, public speaker, and experiencer, R.M. Almonte, to discuss how our dreams may mean a lot more to us than we might give them credit for. Are we subconsciously accessing a different plane of communication with other life forms? There's a lot to discuss here...Go to https://surfshark.com/uap or use code UAP at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It really turned into something that went a little bit longer than I thought it was going to, actually, when we first started with author R.M. Almonte. I planned for about 40, 45 minutes. We ended up just kind of going for an hour because I really, really got into this conversation with R.M. Almante. So welcome in here to UAP, and I really do think you're going to enjoy this

because what we get into in this conversation is all about dreams. Today we're doing a deep dive into the connection that might exist between our conscious selves, our unconscious states, and our dream state and how that might connect to the UAP topic, the conversation, who do we encounter in our dreams? Do they mean more than we actually realize, you know,

should we not just kind of say, oh, that was a strange dream and forget about it? Are there, is there more going on with our dreams? And can we take more away from it than, you know, I would say normal society would, might think and even myself. So this is a topic that I've actually, I'm super interested in, but I never really have been able to do a true deep dive on dreams. And actually, it's funny, I spoke about it with Jordan Crowder not too long ago, just kind of the, you know, with consciousness and how it all connects to the UFO topic.

And this kind of was a perfect opportunity to bring that entire conversation together. And quite frankly, it wasn't even planned. R.M. Amante is a great speaker. He's been a speaker around the country on this topic. when it comes to dreams and experiences and connecting to the UFO phenomenon because he himself is an experiencer in this field. So it's great to kind of get that firsthand knowledge and hear about how he connected it to his science fiction works in his books, which you'll hear about as well.

But it is funny, like I was saying, how this kind of came together really last minute. RM wasn't on my calendar to speak with this week, but I ended up coming across an email from a few months back that it just got lost on me, unfortunately. And I thought, well, you know what? Actually, maybe this is the right timing. Maybe it was supposed to happen this way. I don't know. And reached out and said, hey, you know, I would actually like to have you on.

This is a topic that I find super fascinating. And I think you will as well. So it just all kind of came together here last minute with myself an R.M. Amante author, speaker, and someone who I think you're really going to enjoy hearing during this conversation. So stick around a few news and notes to come back with after we're done. but for now it's myself with Ramon. You'll hear me refer to him as, and his first name, Ramon,

but as an author, his, I suppose, his pen name, R.M. Almante right here on UAP. You know, one of the things I love about doing UAP and bringing on different guests is when I get the opportunity to bring on someone who's actually lived through personal experiences, not only that, but it's been able to put them into words,

put them into some sort of platform, where everybody can learn about it. And that's what we get here today with R.M. Almante, author, experiencer. R.M., thank you so much for coming on here to UAP. It's great to talk to you. And I think everyone's in for a real treat here today with our conversation. Thank you. Thank you so much.

I really appreciate you having me on. Absolutely. I'm happy to have you on. I'm really looking forward to the conversation here today. And as we begin, I also, of course, want to point out the books that you have written on this subject. based off of, somewhat based off of, you know, your own personal experiences, scratching the cosmic conscience and your United Earth series for anybody who hasn't read those. So with that said, how did you come about or how did you get to the point where you came up with the ideas for these books?

What did you go through personally that kind of led you down, you know, the path of consciousness and dreams and the UAP topic? and ultimately led to you writing these books and, you know, putting everything on paper. Yeah, just to clarify for everybody out there, it is fiction. So it's not, it's not 100% based on my life. Right. There is a lot of it in there. There's a lot of other people's experience in there as well. But it all starts off as a young kid in my family.

So my family is from Dominican Republic. And in the Latin community, it's something, the majority. is something that it's openly talked about. Unlike in America, I love this story. This is a hilarious story. So I was living in Japan, and I'll get into that later, but I was living in Japan. I was on my way to an East City conference,

and all of a sudden, these two guys, I'm talking to them, and they're like, oh, are you going for the big bike race or something like that. And to Portland, I was like, no, I'm actually going to a UFO conference. They literally turned around and ignored me the rest of the flight. Wow. This is in Narita Airport in Japan. And they didn't, I saw them on the flight.

I saw them in Portland. They completely ignored me after that. I might as well told them I was smuggling crack or something. Not that I do that. Right. But yeah. So going back to the beginning. So in my family, we always talked about it openly, especially on my father's side.

They have crazy amount of stories about it. And every time my father would look up in stars, he would talk about aliens coming down here. Would it be something similar, you know, the old story of, would it be something similar as what happened to the natives in this side of the world or indigenous people all over? Or would it be more like Star Trek? because he also was a huge Star Trek fan. And him and my grandmother always talked about it openly, my cousins, my uncles. So it wasn't something that was tabooed. And then on the other side, on my mother's side of the family, dreams were extremely important.

One of the important things that you can do with your children is, and something I'm trying to develop with my son, is as soon as they wake up, what did you dream about? Let's discuss it. no matter how outlandish their dreams are, or if it makes it's completely incoherent because you know how three- and four-year-olds talk, you listen to them. And because one of the things that I found out from my own experience is that dreams are fleeting.

They're not solid. And what makes them solid, what I mean in your memory, is you thinking about it, talking about it, writing it down, it trains your brain to solidify these dreams quickly because have you ever woke up and felt like you knew something? And then as the more time goes by, the less you feel like you know what was going on. Oh, sure. And that's because you're not solidifying in your brain. I don't know how that works, but I, and I'm not a brain surgeon or any of those things, but I feel like dreams are not fully in your memory yet, or maybe a part

of your memory that maybe the short-term memory at first or something like that where it doesn't solidify it. So going back to my background, that's where I all started. Then I started writing the United Earth series. And then that's when I dove deeper, more into the extraterrestrial Who are they? What type are they? For example, you have the draconians, the Pleadians, Pramantis type. From there on then I had dreams about,

more recently dreams about people fading out of reality and time traveling, people being stuck between two time periods. For example, I had a dream where the guy is seeing the sunrise and behind him he's seeing the sunset and he's freaking out. It's like the 1950s. And I'm watching this like it's on TV and he's freaking out. And that influenced the book for Fog's Time, which is the paperback is coming out January 17 and the Kindle ready drop. So for those of you out there, if you want to pick it up, it's actually free.

Yeah. So you guys can pick it up and check that out. But yeah, that's pretty much the beginning. beginning. Yeah, how everything came about. And your experiences are really more dream-based, like you've, or out-of-body experience even, where you've had these instances where something so vivid, something that just can't really be explained, that you've gone through in dreams or out-of-body experiences. Yeah, I've also, I mentioned earlier about E-SETI, where the first time I went there was 2009, and E-Sedi is in Trout Lake, Washington,

about an hour and a half from Portland. If you guys really want to see some craziness, I suggest you go there. I'm not saying they're going to land and shake your hand, but you will see a lot of things in the air that don't, in the sky that don't 100% make sense. What type of things did you see there when you went? The most mind-blowing one I saw, I can't try to remember the years. It might have been either 2011 or 12. And when I was there, it was late at night, maybe midnight.

I wasn't drinking or taking any hallucinogens. But there was this, it looked like a satellite crossing over. And you have to be able to tell the difference between satellites, meteors, airplanes, helicopters, and all those different things. Right. This is important. As it's crossing over, it stops. First of all, satellites can't do that. The ISS cannot do that.

Meteors definitely can't do that. So it stops, and then there's a huge blue flash. And for the first time in my life, I saw a plasma cloud. And it just dissipated. Wow. What was that? I have no idea. It's not like I had communication.

I didn't see the license plate. the ship. So couldn't tell you. Wow. But that is the most mind-boggling experience I had. Unfortunately, I haven't had any physical face-to-face. Sure. I might not.

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dreams and abductions or out-of-body experiences or perceived close encounters. You know, we've heard a lot of stories like this and it's hard for people sometimes to differentiate between

was that a dream or did something actually happen to me? Two things that actually come to mind and I think it'll probably relate to what you're talking about. Snooki, remember Snooki from the Jersey Shore? And this popped into my head. I haven't thought about this in a while, but I had her on here a year or two ago,

and she told an incredible story about an experience that she had. And it was in her adolescence where she had this dream, seemingly, where she was on a ship, and these aliens were around her. And then they poked her in the back of the neck with a needle. and it woke her up. It's like she shot back down into her bed. And when she woke up, that hole was actually there. And she actually still has the hole on the back of her head.

I've actually seen the hole in the back of her neck. She sent me a picture of this. And it's still there to this day, years later. I didn't know that story. It's really incredibly. She doesn't tell it too often. And I was very appreciative that she told it here on the show. She was great talking about her own experiences.

But it's things like that. even a shout out to another podcast in this space. Jesse Michaels, who does a great job, he just had on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's never a guest on a podcast, and he had on Joe Rogan. And Rogan spoke about a dream that he recently had about how he was on a ship and surrounded by these tall beings that looked human but weren't exactly human. They had bigger elongated heads, bigger eyes. And he's talking to this story just recently within the past week or so to Jesse Michaels and

He's like, I don't think I was abducted. I'm pretty sure it was a dream. But that's where, and I've heard so many other details from different experiences in this space. And it's just that part of the phenomenon really, really fascinates me because there seems to be something there where it's, there's a connection. Like there's some type of undeniable connection where it's either really happening or for one reason or another, there are certain people who have these very. vivid experiences in a dream state. So what is the connection there? So here's the important part that we need to think about.

What is the fastest way of communication between me and you right now? Just talking back and forth, I guess, right? Yeah. But what if I put you in a different solar system? Telepath. What is the type of telepathy? Exactly. Right?

and what is the easiest way for humans to do that? I guess I would say probably through a dream state maybe, a conscious connection. Bam. So if I am investigating, and what is the safest way for me to do that if I don't know what your people are like? Because I can't, if I look completely different,

I forgot who was a comedian who was saying, it's like, you know why aliens in Everland? because, you know, they hear arguing about black and white and you're purple. What do you think they're going to do to you? So this way I can connect with different people. I can see where they're at because for those of you who are very into your dreams, you can look at people in the dreams and see energetically where they're at. I need to stay.

And I mean, some people can actually feel that. But going back to the extraterrestrials, If I want a deep connection with you, that is the fastest and the deepest connection that we can have is through the dreams state. Now, what I also found, at least in my own family, that I'm not unique. This is something that, and when you talk to, if you're having these kind of experiences, you talk to the people in your family that are open to talk about it. They would tell you stories, especially for some reason the grandmother is always. is the go-to. Sure.

I don't know why, but haven't you noticed that? Yes. The grandma's, I think she's too old to care. So when you look at your family and you look at what kind of dreams you're having, are they similar to your parents or your grandmother? And did her parents talk about it? Probably not because they're too busy trying to survive like then. But if they did, you'll see there's a pattern starting.

to involve here. Yeah. Now, I don't know how many of us might be involved in some programs or they might be different programs running simultaneously or it might be something where, oh, consciously he just broke through this. Let's go talk to him. You know, so when you said Snooky, Joe Rogan, and they're not unique to that, why would they want to talk to those people.

Think about it. They're huge influencers. Especially Joe Rogan, huge influencer. And he's very open to talk about this. He doesn't shy away from it. He doesn't make fun of it. Right. You'll have all different kinds of people on his show.

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Right. Who are we talking about? out here. Right. So again, all of a sudden, all these scientists are investigating it, right? So the same thing with us. So when certain people start hitting certain conscious levels, that's going to get their attention. And I've noticed that in my own life that when we are, when I'm meditating every day, doing two, three times, I'm really into it. All of a sudden, the dreams start getting weird, weirder. But when I fall back into this nine to five mentality and the unique money, make sure my son's good, make sure this is good, and I'm not really taking the time out to do those things,

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a couple of questions I come to mind actually, but I want to start with age groups. Do you find that there is a different level of this phenomenon where these dreams might just be more than dreams? Are they happening more with children? Have you found that or does it, does age not, you know, discriminate here? That's a yes and no question. Yes, with children, obviously, because they're open. They haven't been jaded yet. They're they don't have to worry about nine to five. They're in the moment, the most important thing. And also the other group is the older, let's say 70 and older. And the reason why I say that, because a lot of, if you notice with older people, they get to the point where they just don't care anymore. Like, I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to,

you know, scratch my teeth in front of you. I'm going to, you know. Yeah. I don't care. Whatever. I'm close. I got, you know, I'm closer to death than I am to life, so I don't have time to care. So I think those two age groups are the ones that probably are most open to it. That does not mean that you cannot reach those levels. Obviously, if you're meditating and you're trying to be more in the moment.

And I'm not here talking like I'm some guru or I got it all together. know, like I still get really upset when things go the wrong way. I still feel extremely sad when, you know, someone passes. Sure, you're human. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I'm going through these different human experiences. But I'm noticing that you are able to tap into that, especially in the, and I'm going

to keep going back to the dream state because the dream state is the one. For me, the dream state is the overall part, the umbrella part of your life. And let me explain what I mean by that. So we have our working life. We have our love life. We have our parenting life, if you're a parent, your friendships, and whatever other sections of your life, right? Then the dream state is going to start showing you these different very,

versions of what's going on with you internally. Now, think about your own dreams. Where are you? Are you in a dirty swamp? Well, what do you think is telling you? Are you in a bad neighborhood? What do you think is telling you? Are you at this beautiful beach with the sun shining on you?

And you just feel amazing. What is it telling you? So that is what I'm talking about with the overall arc of it. And through there, when you have a lucid dream, that's when you wake up. And I'll show you guys real quick ways to develop that. Because remember, everything is a skill. Every single thing you do is a skill.

And that means it gets developed, the more you work on it. So this is not like, oh, he's really good with dreams. I'm not. Right. That's not this. So everything that's going on in your life, you will see it in your dreams. dream state. And when you have a lucid dream, that's when you can try to either, A, look deeper

into yourself, or B, try to connect with these beings. And let's talk about how to develop your lucid dreaming. Yeah. It's lucid dreaming is just your skill to develop awareness. Awareness, what's going on at the moment right now. So it's very easy for us in our waking. life. I'm moving my fingers. I can feel that. I can feel the table. I can look around. I'm looking at the time. Why am I mentioning these things? Because if you keep doing that and then asking yourself, are you dreaming? One day you're going to do that and you will be dreaming. And that is a way to develop because just take a moment. I know we have so many things going through our heads. Just take a moment. look at the time says 1026 a.m. Okay, perfect. I got it. And I'm not dreaming. I'm touching my fingers.

It feels physical. In the dream state, it feels different. That's when I realize, oh, I'm dreaming. Or there's a purple elephant walking by. That's not normal. So those are ways that we can develop, develop it. And then from there, you can take that and try to connect with these different beings. Now, they're all sorts of beings. And some of you might ask questions, well, how do I know whether that's a good being or a bad being? The same way you know that's a good person or a bad person. You've been around people that, wow, that guy is amazing or the girl's just an amazing person. Or you've been around people like, yeah, I don't want to be nowhere near them.

Yeah. It just feel wrong. You can feel an energy. Exactly. And it's actually easier because it will come off as long as, and the biggest. And the big one that happens to a lot of people is that the more negative energies will disguise himself in your desires. So Shimae appears a beautiful girl or a famous actress. You know, the same goes for women or whatever you're into.

And you will feel that energy like I've seen like, oh, wow, these two beautiful girls are really trying to hook up with me. and then their face changes. And I'm like, oh, wait, hold on. So that's, and I'm saying that because some people right away get paranoid. You have to treat them the same way you treat everyday people in the sense of you're trying to feel them out. You're using your experience. That's right.

So we're talking about actual beings entering into your consciousness, entering into your dreams. So yeah. And you've had those experiences. You've, you've had absolutely from the very negative to extremely positive. And I have certain guides that there's this one guide I have and he's, he's not funny, but he's funny to me in the sense. He's really tall. He always, for some reason, he always appears with glasses. I don't get that one. But when I say tall, his, like, his chest is up to my face. And he's a tall white guy. His hair is, you know, very, like, to the side.

And he'll either tell me things like, oh, you know, your aura looks like this. Good job. Or he'll just straight yell at me. He's not, he's not kind about it. He'll just be like, you. And he'll curse me out. He'll straight curse me out. Yeah.

And then I have these other two guys. that they're twins, they don't talk much, and they always change their nationality. I don't get that one either. Am I making this up in my mind and my dreams? Possibly, is it telling me something about my subconscious? Possibly, I don't know. But these are occurring.

You're seeing these beings more than once. Since I was a kid. Since I was a kid. Wow. And some of them don't ever show themselves and others do. Is there one of the other questions that popped into my mind here was, And I know you said obviously this can be, you know, learned as far as being able to remember more of these, possibly interpret these, and just, you know, understanding more about what's going on with your own consciousness. But with that said, Ramon, is there an element to this that is hereditary?

And I ask that because, you know, you talk about with your own family as well, where they've spoken about these experiences in their dreams. But just in the aspect of the UAP phenomenon as well, we've, I've come across. so many stories of, and I've spoken to different authors and researchers about this as well, and so I find it interesting that it comes up here, about some type of family lineage connection, whether it's these vivid dreams or experiences in your dreams, or whether it's actual physical encounters, abductions, there seems to be some type of lineage, blood-related type of connection here that yes it could happen to anybody theoretically but there seems to be something deeper. Am I off on that?

No, not at all. And what I'm starting to think the reason why is it's a, how can I say this? It's family culture. I'm not talking about your nationality or your culture, you know, like the Italian culture or Spanish culture. I'm talking about the nucleus, sorry, the main family culture, what was passed down within that family itself could be part of it. That doesn't mean that, let's say, your family was very off that. Nobody ever talks about that.

That can't start with you. You can't be the beginning. It's not like, well, they're lucky to have that. We're not. That's not the case either. But, you know, within my own family, it's always been very open to talk about it. And I've noticed with people who I get along with that are very into this kind of thing. It's the same thing.

Their dad was very into it. Love watching programs on it. Their grandfather used to tell crazy stories about it. So if you notice within that family culture, they're open about it. The whole thing here, the key here is how. open are you? And again, for a lot of the fear-based mentality, we're not saying, you know, like you're not going to sit there and count money. Now I'm going to explain that. You're not going to sit here and count money in a bad neighborhood. So energetically speaking,

that what I've noticed that that is, and energy is an exchange of money in the dream world, astroworld, whatever, physical energy, because there's certain entities that either they were human ones or they were never humans that feed off this energy and they'll try to latch themselves onto you the same thing as a human person. You know, like, you're counting money is going to try to rob you. So if you're not paying attention, they will rob you of your energy. No difference, right? But the more you grow consciously and energetically, the more your vibration moves up, it happens in the physical and it happens in the astral world where they're not going to come near you. What do I mean by the physical world is certain type of people won't want to mess with you because you're just vibrating on a whole different level. So you don't even your connections are there's no connections whatsoever.

And so they're not going to mess with you. This, you know, like if you're walking in confident through a bad neighborhood, you're confident nothing's going to happen to you. You know, your mind is open and you feel comfortable. They're really not going to try to rob you. But if you're walking through that bad neighborhood scared, like something's going to happen, then you're an easy victim. I got you. He's scared. I don't got to do much.

But so let me bring this. back into the astro and dream world same thing you're confident it's it's not when they when they say as how does it go as on heaven so is on earth right right as above so below right yeah they're really they're being serious like take it seriously so energet energetically speaking it's the same thing you're giving off that same energy those entities are not going to mess with you those negative um extraterrestrials on that and a mess for you It's really interesting because you know we talk about this in a

in a fashion of there's this whole different like conscious world there's this whole different metaphysical world that's within our consciousness and we can tap into that through the dream state you know so many people

think of dreams it's just you know we throw them away oh that was a weird dream I was you know I was on a pirate ship and they were making me walk the plank that's such a random dream. And there are people there who I've never been seen before. I don't know who these people are. They're just random faces.

People I've never met. I have no idea what that means. But there seems to be something else happening where recently I had on a guy Jordan Crowder who's very much into what we're talking about, dreams, the metaphysical world, the UAP topic. And he said something that stuck with me ever since I spoke with him a few weeks ago where he said, when we're dreaming, our bodies are asleep, but our conscious doesn't sleep. Our consciousness is not going, it's not taking a rest. It's continuing to move.

It's continuing to go. So is, like, are people not looking into this enough of a moment? I mean, should people take their dreams more literally, the things that we're seeing, the things that we're feeling, the things that we're experiencing? Is it for everybody or, you know, is it for some people, yeah, that was just random? No, I think everybody should take them extremely serious. Here's the problem with dreams. The dreams are not one shoe fits all, right?

The way you dream and the symbolism that are coming to you are very unique to you. So they're a combination of how you see the world, how you were brought up, your cultural looks on it, everything that, The symbolisms that are given to you are things that are unique to you. So what a snake in my dream doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be the same as yours. There are things that connect us. For example, the reason why we will look at snakes as bad is because we know if we go close to a snake, he might bite you and you might meet your maker room. So that's why

Overall that symbolism of snake would always be But let's say you grew up I forgot the name of that Christian religion Where they dance with the snakes Oh I know what you mean Yeah Let's say you grew up in that And I'm not promoting it or saying anything

Right Right But let's say you grew up in that And so you don't see snakes the same way That means that The way I dream about a snake and the way that person dreams about us think is not going to be the same. So that's what I mean.

So a dream I had one time was I was petting a camel. And when I told a friend of mine who's from Egypt, they looked at it very different. And I was like, yeah, I don't think it means that. Because he grew up around camels. That is part of his culture. It's not part of my culture. To me, that's like seeing a unicorn. It's unique.

it's wow it has a whole different symbolism yeah sure life experiences so it means something for something else for for someone else right yeah it's yeah go ahead no i was going to say and if you read any of my books especially um scratching the cosmic conscious especially that one and the united era of series you'll see that the dream symbolism for my characters are extremely deep and important to them. And the reason, you know, a lot of those dreams are my own or dreams I've heard from other people. And some of them I did make up.

But a lot of them are my own dreams and my own interpretations of what I think that means for me. So it's everywhere in my life. And here's the other part about dreams. How many inventors having you heard talk about that. They invented this because of a dream. Or a scientist figure something out while either A, he was dreaming, B, he was in the shower, or taking a bath.

Yeah. And even movies, directors, I believe James Cameron got the idea of a Terminator in a dream, if I'm not mistaken. Exactly. And I got a lot of my book stuff for my dreams. Hmm. So there's absolutely, it seems like some type of deeper connection here, even outside of the UAP topic.

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it's so fascinating to be able to connect the two because they may not be separate, right? When we talk about otherworldly beings and we talk about consciousness and guys, right? And I think that might kind of be the crux of the phenomenon is consciousness itself. And maybe that's why it's so hard for people to

I guess accept that you know there's something else out there because it's so much deeper there's more than just you know crash recoveries and reverse engineer technology and you know and autopsies of alien bodies

there's now those things are incredible don't get me wrong but when you boil it down it's like well where is this coming from what does it mean and how are we connecting how are they getting here and it seems like they understand it And consciousness is the missing link, if you will.

No, it definitely is. And one of the craziness is when people don't connect the consciousness to it. I mean, I've heard there was one story. I think it was George Norrie interviewing this lady. I think it was George Norrie on the one he does on TV. And she was telling this fascinating, I'm going to say like that because I don't, I wasn't there. Right. I love to bring there.

But she's talking about these crafts that are, they have AI, but they're physical and the pilots are bred to connect with these crafts. And of course, I had to put that in my stories. The amazing thing is that these crafts, they heal like the way. we do, you know, you get a gash and it'll heal over time if you take care of it, clean it. So it seems that they, that's where

their level of technology is at. So they're consciously connecting with these ships and which would make sense because at that point you can foo, foo, and move from one side to another real quick and it's, there's, your fingers will never move as fast

as you're taught. Sure. It's just, it's never going to. So the consciousness aspect is, from my point of view, I feel everything is consciousness. It's you have this best way I can describe from my point of view and I could be completely wrong is consciousness is like this liquid that kind of sits right behind our point of view of reality. and it's separate but it's still it's the droplet in the ocean okay so each droplet in that ocean is a conscious being whether we're talking about an alien being a human being or a dog or whatever an angel whatever and but it's still part of the ocean but it's still separate but it's still part of the ocean right so um

And that to me is, I don't want to use the G word, but it's the overall intelligence that runs or is everything you see or experience. Yeah, it's super interesting. And I want to get back to, before we're done here, I want to get back to some of the things where we talk about having these experiences with beings in your dreams. I mean, real, you know, physical beings that are. recurring that are coming back. Now, a lot

of people have gone through this, including yourself. So what do you make of something like that where what are these beings? Are we talking about ancestors? Are we talking about spirit guides? Are we talking about good spirits, bad spirits, that are trying to, you know, infiltrate

your consciousness for one reason or another? Or are we talking about extraterrestrials? Some form or fashion and mix depending on personal experiences, I suppose. but it seems like it could be a variety, I suppose. Yeah. I've had, there's two that comes to mind where I just knew they weren't human, quote, unquote. I felt that they looked just like us and they would blend in.

Or maybe that was my perception where my conscience was more comfortable seeing them. in that way too as well. The funny, I was much younger. I was in my 20s and I see this girl, she looked, she looked like she was a mixture of everything, literally. Like she looked like she was half black, Asian, and whatever, you know, her mixtures. And we were in the bedroom where I grew up at, which was weird because I was, at that time, I was living in Japan.

And in the dream, she's sitting on my bed. And then she was like, humans, you humans, I can tell you're human by your aura. It's like you almost wear, it's almost like a tattoo on your, I don't know if that's true or not, but that was her message. And then another one, it was this beautiful black girl, curly fro. and she held my hand and I felt, I literally felt butterflies like in my stomach. And she was like, you felt that? And she starts giggling. So we start flying out into space and all of a sudden I'm feeling all this wind.

What they mean, I'm not 100% sure. Sometimes it's just the experience of what they felt like, how they are. So when you do come in contact, if you do, you all get a good idea. Have you yourself had experiences outside of, you know, anybody human-looking? Have you had experiences personally with non-human-looking intelligences? Physically?

Not to my knowledge. Of course, there are people you look at it. You're like, mm-right. You question it, but I wouldn't say 100% sure that they were non-humans. It seems like though that this is this is kind of like the the plane of operation. And what I mean by that, I guess, is, you know, we go through our everyday lives. We're texting each other.

We're calling each other. We're having face-to-face conversations or over Zoom or whatever it is. And this is our plane of reality. It's our plane of existence. This is how we communicate. This is where we do it. It seems like consciousness, and let's use your ocean analogy, is the, universal field,

universal plane of language. And the way we're able to tap into that, the way we're able to access that plane is through the dream state. And it's almost like these other forms, these other beings, whether extraterrestrial

or otherwise, non-human intelligence, whatever that may be, it almost feels like they're just waiting for us to enter that plane so they can tell us what we need to know or show us what we want to see or maybe try to do nefarious things as well. Like they're there.

They're just like, what are these people going to get here as well so we can communicate? Is that, I mean, that's kind of the impression I'm getting as we talk. Yeah, I also get that impression. It's the development of who we are spiritually, physically, and they're observing that for what reasons I'm not 100% sure because, you know, it's the other thing you have to think about it that people love to put this blanket over extraterrestrials, you know, people love to do that with everything.

They just put a blanket over everything. So just like you can't put a blanket on every single individual, you know, like why you do something and why I do something are not going to be the same reason. You know, that doesn't mean that isn't an effect. various all the time, but it's not the same reasons why we're doing something. And the same thing with them, why they're studying us. Is it just scientific? Is it sociological? Is it anthropological?

Is it purely spiritual? Yeah. They're all there. We don't. And I think that is the biggest problem. There's two big problems. I find that, number one, we're not going to get all the answers we need. we want. That's the main one that drives everybody crazy. And what drives a lot of people to just shut the door on the whole thing. Because you can look into this for the next three centuries and you still won't,

you might not still find any answers. And then the other side of it is the just studying the crafts, the physical crafts. They don't go into the ethereal or any of that. They don't want to touch it. Just the nut and bolts. And they keep the two things separate. Right, right. Which they're not, you know, but.

And it becomes, when you're hearing the same story over and over and over and over and over, you know, Roswell, that's great. It was a very important part of history when it comes to this. But how many times am I going to watch this? watch the same documentary. How many times we're going to interview the same people? majority of those people are all dead now. Where are we going from here? So that's why where, for me, I want to know what are they like culturally? What do they eat?

What is their social structure like? What is their family structure like? Are they like us? Do they raise their children in a similar way? What is their school system like? I want to know all these. things and I've heard from one side this I found this hilarious so on the spiritual side is I don't care about that I just don't know about the spiritual stuff what what do you

mean and then on the nut and both side is like well if it's not physical I don't care you know if I can't so they both sides I find it they ignore all these different things if you go to Japan you want to look at their structures you want to eat their food food, maybe try some of their alcohol, talk to some of the locals. What do they eat at home? How are they like in their house? You know, you're learning all these different things and it changes you. And that's where I'm looking at like, what are they like in that way? So obviously, I'm not getting those answers. So the best way to answer it, it's not really an answer, but it's the closest thing I could do is write a whole series about it. No, that's exactly right. That's what

makes it so much fun to think about and consider and talk about all the the possibilities behind it all. And I love doing that. And I'm glad that we got to do that here today. Before we are done, though, there was something that we spoke about, Ramon, before we started. You said, something crazy happened recently. And it said, okay, if I bring that up here before we're done? Oh, no, it wasn't, sorry. It wasn't crazy in the sense of, it's not crazy in the sense of, the whole UFO, spiritual, woo-woo kind of world. It's crazy in the sense that I'm going after a world record

to do a book signing in every single state. And we just covered 10 states. I did the Midwest all the way from Kansas to through Missouri up to Nebraska and all the way to Virginia. It's awesome. Yeah. So I'm going in January,

going back at a, So if you guys are interested, just look up on my website, rmalmonte.com, and you'll see the dates where I'm going to be at. So that's why I meant by crazy. Oh, no, that's great. That's awesome. I mean, it's a different level of like, oh, wow, crazy, this is happening in my life right now. Yeah, and that's why I was saying I was kind of a nervous wreck because putting that all together. Right.

It feels like hurting cats. If you guys are familiar, I love that thing. First time I heard it, I think I was like 35. But I love that thing. Yeah, no, I think it's a good way to put it. Even this time you're with the holiday season and family and trying to get things together, it is. It's kind of like hurting cats. I totally understand.

But this has been amazing. This is a topic that I really like to cover, or at least I like to ponder on my own time. I like to think about it. I like to try to explore. And I don't get to do it enough here on UAP because I do believe, as we spoke about here today, it's not random. it's not separate from the UAP conversation. I know this is where people would say this is the woo-woo side of the UFO topic

but if we're going to... And it's scared a lot of scientists away. And it does and I think that's so ironic because we talk about the this topic being taboo, right? And we started off that way when it comes to different cultures. It's taboo and some taboo and not.

And it's so funny to me how there is this acknowledgement that it shouldn't be taboo, right? and we have these congressional hearings and helps to break down the barriers in everyday society where they can talk about these things seriously. But then we say that this part of the conversation is taboo. So there has to be a realization, I think, at some point where none of it should be taboo, that we shouldn't have to shy away from the woo-woo side. We shouldn't even have to, in my opinion, have to have a disclaimer or preface or statement

with, oh, this is the woo-woo side of the topic. If we're going to talk about the UFO topic, let's talk about the, entire topic. Yeah, and I just give some parts. But here's the issue that just talking about the UFO topic alone, just the ships alone, blows a lot of people away still. But it's gotten way better compared to 20 years ago. Sure.

20, 30 years ago. But it's, you have to treat people at different levels differently. And what I mean by that is when you're watering a plant, you can't sit there with a hose. you're just going to blow the sea right that's fair so you know some people have that people who get into this I'll tell them slow down because they will come out

and just to anybody who yeah hey how you doing yeah aliens real and it's spiritual right right and all it sounds it just sounds like we're up all over the screen so you know you can't do that to people either

right no and you're absolutely right yeah 100% and I think I guess it's just to kind of kind of put it on top of that what you're saying is I don't shy away personally from having these types of conversations and seeing where the bridges are

seeing where we can connect the dots when it comes the entire conversation so that way this hopefully acts as a little bit of a that next step right if you haven't considered this part of the conversation then maybe this back and forth that we've had here today

can kind of start as that first step into thinking, okay, what is happening in the metaphysical world? What is happening with consciousness that might actually connect all of this and paint the bigger picture? So I like to be able to bring it up when I can for that reason. But you're absolutely right. You don't want to spree somebody with a fire hose 100%. Yeah. If you allow me to simplify even more.

Yeah. Let's forget about the ET and the spirit side and consciousness. let's just look at what, for example, the dream state, what that means for you, for your career, your family life. So forget about all the woo-woo stuff, just that part. Because we do know that that side of us has influence civilization throughout the ages. We know that for a fact. That's a fact, right?

There's a lot of, if you look around your house, there are a lot of things that came from people's dreams. A lot of things that we use, the sewing machine is one of my favorite stories. I forgot the guy, the guy's name who invented it, but he had a dream that some indigenous people were poking him with spears. And at the end of spears, I think even in the front, no, it was in the front of the spear. There was a hole. And he invented the sewing machine from that.

So if you look at how it can help you physically overcome things, emotionally, just that starting there is extremely important. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Just start there. Yeah. Start there. And as you grow in that, then those other things will start coming in naturally.

It's, again, it's the water holes, you know. Yeah. If, if, if a eight foot prey mantis showed up in my apartment right now, I'm going to react the wrong way. That's a fact. Right. If a six foot human being appeared in my house right now, I'm going to. react the wrong way. So regardless, whoever appears in my house, I'm going to react

the wrong way. Why are you here, first of all, you know? Yeah. So it's that startling. Yeah. And I think once you kind of start at the beginning, then you can start to look into more what we're talking about. And then all of a sudden, you get into someone like Edgar Casey. Edgar Casey for me was,

and I've mentioned this a bunch of times here on the show, probably one of my biggest influences when it came to getting into the UFO time. topic in general because they started to learn about remote viewing and they started to learn about consciousness. So I think I kind of went backwards. I started with the heavy stuff and then came into everything else and was able to make connections from there. But I think this is, you know, a conversation that is absolutely worth having. And I'm glad we got to do it here, Ramon, because there are so many connections and so many bridges that we can cross by talking about this topic.

and it's, I think all plays into a whole bigger role, I think. Yeah. And the last thing I would say for any of those interested in picking up my books, if you do want to sign copy, either eight, you can go to one of the book signings, but if you want an early copy, you can pick it up from the TikTok shop, and that's all under my website. And the Kindle will be available for free to Saturday. that was the 6th, December 6th, you can pick it up there too as well.

And yeah, I've had a blast and I love when I can meet people that I, you know, we could just openly talk about whatever. Yeah, no, it's great. And before I let you go, I do want to let people know where they can find you. How do they look you up on social media? What websites can they go to to to find your materials and everything that you're doing? Like you said, with your book signing dates and everything that you got out right now. Yeah, number one way is just when you dream, just think of me.

Just go to R-M-A-L-M-O-N-T-E.com. So R-M-A-M-A-Monte. If you put R-M-A-M-M-A-M-M-T-O-M-M-O-M-M-O-M-M-M-E-O-M-M-E-R-M-M-E-R-M-E-R-M-E-R-E. You'll have my name there, so if you just Google that, you'll find me. Perfect. Well, R.M. Amante, Ramon, thank you so much for coming on here to UAP, for making all this time. I'm glad that we got to connect and talk about this. I really enjoyed the conversation and love to keep in touch and have you back on another time. Absolutely. And thank you so much for making the time for us. Absolutely. Glad to do it. Arma, Mante, look him up. Great stuff. Thanks a lot. Talk again soon right here. UAP.S.

Have a great one. Thanks. Yeah, like I said, ended up being a real deep dive there. So thank you again to Ramon, R.M. Lomante, for making all that time to come on here to UAP, really, really enjoyed that conversation. And again, I'll be honest, I wasn't really sure. It was one of those topics and one of those conversations where, as I started off, I wasn't exactly sure how the flow of the conversation was going to go. Of course, I always have the topics in mind that I want to bring up and how I kind of picture the conversation going, but I try not to overplan it. I like to see, I like to let the conversation breathe, which I think you've probably noticed by now through listening to the show and the different interviews I've done, is I like to see how it naturally evolves.

And this one certainly did. I really only had like maybe two questions right now to start off with this. And I just wanted to let this one breathe and see where it went. And I'm glad I did because it was just that natural curiosity, I think, that came out during this conversation where we, I think, even made a couple of possible discoveries and connect. about how everything connects, dreams, consciousness, and the UFO topic, abductions, and, you know, experiences who we're seeing in our dreams, different beings, you know, and they're coming to us and maybe even feeling like, you know, we're on a ship, are those abductions, are those messages? So we were kind of able to bring all that together here.

And I know for a fact, after speaking to different people who have been here on the show before and even behind the scenes that have spoken to, this is a topic that certainly hits home for a lot of you and for a lot of people that I've spoken to who have had experiences like RM was talking about. So I'm really glad I was able to present that here today. And I hope that you found it's worth your time, worthwhile, as always here on UAP, something that is a conversation that I'm not going to shy away from, like I said. And I think he made a good point. Like, you know, you don't want to have the fire hose approach, right, towards the end of the conversation where I was kind of what I was trying to say was I find it ironic how we try to eliminate the stigma of the UFO topic

in the general conversation of society, but then we put a stigma on it when it comes to this type of conversation, the woo-woo, if you will, you know, the strange of the strange. And so it's like we almost have a stigma within a stigma, even though we don't want a stigma. So I always find that part to be kind of ironic and maybe even hypocritical at times. where we say, well, this should be normalized, but we shouldn't talk about this because it's too weird. Well, then what are we really doing here? So that's what I was trying to say there was I want to be able to talk about it all and not worry about having that. Wow, this is kind of strange.

Let's just talk about it and see where it goes and see how it all connects. But I also completely understand what RM was saying there is you want to have the right approach to it as well. You don't want to have that fire hose where you just spraying in somebody's face is totally overwhelming. Sometimes you need to use a sprinkle can and kind of, you know, pour the water, softly on that plant, let it nurture, let it grow. So I think if we can have that fine line between the two as we evolve this conversation as a whole, that's probably the right way to go about it. Don't be shy about it, but also know that, know your audience, know you're talking to, know when is the right time to bring different things up as to not overwhelm anybody. And that's

really with anything in life as well, I think too. And it was one of those moments where, you know, just that organic conversation, where the thought popped into my head, you know, is that is consciousness or even in that dream state, is that how we are able to enter that plane of consciousness where it's almost like this universal, you know, plane of language where everybody else who is able to have these types of interactions are on this plane that we can't access unless we're dreaming. Or some people can access it, right, through remote viewing and through all these different techniques that seem to be learned and that you can grow with. Some people have it innately and just able to heighten these abilities, if you will, and

others are these are learned techniques. So this plane, from all the conversations that I've had, there seems to be this different plane of consciousness that people are able to tap into. And for those of us who haven't learned how to do it or haven't been able to do it, is the dream state everybody else's way of being able to enter this plane whether we realize it or not. And that's where these conversations, that's where these interactions are taking place. And sometimes we remember, sometimes we don't.

And what did they really mean? And it was fun to kind of be able to have that thought and, you know, come into my head and put it out there and talk about these possibilities. And that's why I love to do this, because we get to just kind of, you know, theorize, hypothesize about how all this connects, which is why I really personally enjoy this conversation in particular here today. And of course, I hope you did as well. and maybe came up with your own ideas from it too. But again, really cool, and I'm glad we got to do that one here today. Before Thanksgiving, I did say, and I want to make note of this,

because this kind of ties into what to look forward to next here on UAP. I did say that I was working on getting somebody here that has never been on the show before, and it would be, you know, a really big moment here on UAP if we were able to work it out. Now, that said, R.M. Lamonte has never been on the show before, so I was glad to have him on. But like I said at the start, that wasn't the original plan, but I'm glad it came together the way it did. Originally, and I'll say this now, because I'm hoping that it's something that does work out in the future, and I think it will. I'm going to keep working at it.

But originally, it was actually supposed to have on Congressman Tim Burchett. And I've been in touch with his office. I've been in touch with his communications director working behind the scenes on this for about the past three or four weeks to try to make this happen. We had a date for this week to make it happen. unfortunately the time is never solidified and just couldn't put that final nail. I couldn't close the deal on the solidifying that time frame with Congressman Burchett. But things are trending upward there and I hope to be able to finalize that one with Tim Burchett here on UAP, hopefully sometime soon. If not in this month of December, then hopefully by the start of 26.

Either way, I do plan on having him on soon. But that's who I was talking about. I don't want to keep that mystery. I don't want to, you know, say something and not pay it off. That's who I was talking about was when I said, I'm going to try to have somebody on here who's never been on the show. It's a big moment if we do it. I was talking about Tim Burchett.

It was supposed to work out. Again, just that last minute. It kind of fell through. We didn't get to solidify that last part. But still working on it. So stay tuned. I'll let you know when Tim Burchett is going to be on the show here because it will happen. It will.

I have faith that we're going to get him on here. just super, really, really hard to, you know, nail down those final schedules. And also coming up on the show and working on this one as well, we're emailing back and forth. Someone who I got to know at Contact in the Desert earlier on this year back in the summer was Matt Ford from the Good Trouble Show. Really good guy. Really enjoyed getting to meet him back at Contact in the Desert this past summer. And it was one of those things where I was actually really happy it happened because I never spoken to him. We never had any dealings, but we ended up having a conversation for like two,

three hours one night. And we were like, I was like, dude, I got to get you on the show. He's like, yeah, absolutely, let's do it. But again, one of those things, you lose contact, no pun intended. And, you know, schedules fly by. Everybody gets busy. But we're still talking and actually we're trying to get something done here soon. So I do also plan on having Matt Ford from The Good Trouble Show come on here to UAP.

And hopefully we can get that date nailed down here pretty soon. So a lot of things in the works here for UAP. And I look forward to bring it all to you. All that and more. You never know what's going to come up next, but Lord knows I'm going to cover it right here. So thank you so much for stopping by. Thank you so much for coming back for this episode. And like I said, much more to come.

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I am going to be putting up more videos. I know I always say that, but more videos will be going up there. And at UA Podcast 850 on Twitter and TikTok to follow along on all the latest that's going on and maybe any little thoughts that just come across my head that I want to put out there. So make sure to keep up to date and I will keep coming back here on UAP because you keep coming back. And I come back for you. So thank you so much for that. And I hope you enjoyed those first five episodes as well.

That was fun to do. I just wanted to say that before I was done, you know, over the Thanksgiving holiday, I had decided to do something I had ever done before, which was re-released the first five episodes of UAP from way back when in the summer of 2021. I know right so long ago, but from 2021. And just to kind of have a new perspective on, you know, an old conversation. And I'm glad I got to do that. That was a lot of fun to put those out there as kind of a way to say, thank you for helping me get this far.

Like I said, for continuing to come back and listen to the show and just kind of had that full circle moment and say, you know what? As a moment of thanks for, you know, being thankful to continue to do this, let's go ahead and re-air these first five episodes and just kind of had that full circle moment. And that was a lot of fun to do. So hopefully you enjoyed kind of listening back and remembering and getting to hear those again in their original form. So that was fun and I hope you enjoyed it.

So until next time, it is Stephen Deiner here saying be well and thanks so much. And we'll talk again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast.