UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 181 The Antonio Alves Story part 2 - Insectoids, Alien Home Invasion, and Hypnotic Regression

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

In this shocking part two, Antonio Alves recalls more incredible details about his ongoing experiences with alien beings. How did his girlfriend see him as an insectoid? Why did 4 greys invade his home? And get ready to hear, in vivid detail, his word for word recollection of an alien abduction through a documented hypnotic regression session. All of this and much more right now... Go to surfshark.com/UAP or use code UAP at checkout to get four extra months of Surfshark VPNSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And we come back with part two of my interview with the rarely heard Antonio Alves. And what a part one it was, the Tales of Antonio Alves, to learn about his life experiences. And we're going to learn about a lot more today. And this is something, you know, again, that kind of like a new thing I'm trying to concentrate more on, not to say that I've never done it before in the past, but to bring on more people that are just, you know,

everyday walk of life people that have extraordinary experiences. And Antonio was one of those people, as you heard in part one, as he spoke about his sightings as a child, his lost time, possible abduction scenarios, meetings with what seemingly would have been the men in black, just incredible stories that we went over there in part one. And you're going to hear about more of that here in part two, where we just, you know, we begin right off the bat where we talk about a story from his girlfriend who says that she saw him as an insectoid alien. I kid you not.

And so again, this is always one of those things with UAP where we just come into this with an open mind and we consider the details to kind of figure out, you know, what are we hearing here? Is there something to this? And it's just incredible stuff to consider here from Antonio. Not only in part one, but in part two, you're going to hear about that story there where his girlfriend sees him as an insectoid alien, just stuff that I never really hear about this stuff before, has memories of seeing other children. aboard a craft that he was on as well and how that came about, this triggered memory, a kind of a lost memory that was triggered. We get in to those things. And we also talk about these strange lights that entered into his room back in 2021.

There's so much in here, including a regression session that took place in 2019 that focused on one of his supposed abductions. And this regression session, I want to, mention this because there are some things in here that, you know, just kind of thrown at you and I want to get some context to them. It's done by a doctor named Jolda or Gilda. You'll hear Antonio referred to her as Jolda. So just for those purposes, Dr. Jolda Mora. And you'll hear that name come up a few different times. This is a doctor who helped Antonio over the past decade or so with his own, you know, UFO journey, his experiences, trying to figure things. And you know,

out. And this is the doctor who did a regression session with him in this particular case. And when we get to that portion, you're going to hear me read his regression session word for word. The context that he was giving while he was under hypnosis. So I actually go through that word for word. It's really just compelling stuff to say the least that you're going to hear, especially in that portion. But not only that, so many other things. So I'll get to it. no more previews. And then I'm going to come back and give you a lot of other context on some things that I did not include in the episode just because I think some things might have got lost

in translation and it was a little bit hard to understand admittedly. So there were some things that I felt were better served if I related it myself that didn't make the episode, but I'm still going to tell those other particular stories. So I'm going to add to what you're going to hear from Antonio with some things that he told me during this episode that I'm just going to present myself. That way, it's a little bit easier to understand if I'm being honest. So that said, a lot more to add after I'm done with Antonio. So stick around for that reaction and more stories as well. But for right now, here is part two, the conclusion of the incredible tales of Antonio Alves.

Get ready to hear this stuff right now on UAP. Enjoy. One of the other things I wanted to bring up here, Antonio, was it just, it fascinated me. You were with your girlfriend at the time. And you mentioned to me in your message that she saw something that... On the insectoid? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. One day, she bring at my house for lunchtime and we are in the kitchen. And she looked at me real strange. and just something happened. I said, no, no, no. Because she's that kind of woman. If you talk about aliens or something like that, it's possible, but I don't care if it exists or not.

I have my life. It's not that interesting. Well, after we read, she turned to me and said, you know, you know, when you asked me, because I looked at you a little strange. Because when I look at you, I don't saw you. I saw you a son. bug or something

not you but she said there was real there was real fast and we go to the phone in the internet and I said look I'll go show you here some

different aliens you know maybe you can't see and when we go be the insectoid picture it says oh it looks like this this one I saw It looks like this. It does not have nothing else.

She doesn't have nothing about the alien. She looked out like that. It's, oh, okay. And we change. We change the subject and we don't talk. One night, it was with her. And she looked at me again real strange, real open heights. And she said,

I must go up to the kitchen. I don't want to stay here. Without reason. Well, they have a reason. And we go. I go to the upstairs for another floor. We sit down. And she said, you know, I look at you.

And we are so close. And I look at your eyes. And that time, everything changed. I see that thing. And I do what? The insectoid? Yeah. But that thing

look at me so deeply in my brain. She said, it's like a knife. I have a knife go inside to my brain and hurt me. And she said,

I don't listen any voice, but have in my mind said, you must laugh them. You guys can be together. And after that, She saw a lot of times. As Sharon's, matter of fact, she called me a lot of times.

She still called me. And I asked her if things happen. I said, no, it's normal. After you left, after you go back to Ninth State, the things, it's normal. Nothing happened with me anymore. Wow. And again, what I find important to highlight again

is that this is someone who wasn't investigating you. This isn't somebody who even found these. the topic interesting. She's just your girlfriend. Just an innocent bystand. You know about, I was in the talking shows and about the book, but she don't care about that.

Right. She has a business and she don't, she don't care about that. It wasn't somebody who was looking to get, you know, to see these things, we're looking to find these things out, but just she ended up seeing you in a different way.

She ended up seeing you as a different being. That's pretty amazing. And another thing is, how she got the insectoids. What is not that kind of thing you see in the movies, normal, you know? She told me, I saw like a gray or something like that. She never said, even there's no gray, the word. But it was different. She saw a movie.

We talked something about UFO. But no, she got to insectoids, you know. And the funny thing, I never thought. told them about insectoids or nothing dead and when I did the regression she was there too

you know and the regression come up with the insectoids what them surprised me a lot because all my life I think the contact there was the great the shadons and the reptilians because I have

a fray of snakes but I think everybody ever has a phrase of snakes And I thought there was that. And when it came to the creation and the insectoid come up, they would surprise me, you know. All my life, I was missing that, you know. And I want to tell us something that I think it's very important. Yeah.

The first time I met Dr. Gilda Mora, there was in the meeting of the APOI's Association, Portuguese of UFO. You know, you know, that things happen. You know, you don't remember. but something happened and unlock your brain. And you never forget that thing. This happened over there. And the subject is about adoptance.

People was adopted. This was Gilda talking that meeting. And they have a break time. After one hour after, they make like 15 minutes break. And that moment, I'm walking and the thing came in my mind. I send you that in the papers too. And what I saw is, What I saw is I was in the ship with, I don't see them.

I walk with two beings, too tall beings. I have feeling, but they think I'm always in my mind until today. I never forget. And I walk in the room with light, all light. And when we're walking, and I know I don't see them, but I feel they have two, two grades, they're tall ones in my back, walking with me. And I passed one room with a door. They have just the place, the door, they have not done.

And I looked at this empty room. In the far away, they have like a window, but it was all black. But it's empty room. I'm still walking. And I saw another room the same in my right side. I don't know there was the three or four room. I passed. And that time, I look, and they have a child.

all kinds of different ethnics and age of the child. All them look at me, you know. And I remember they have one, two child with the red air. They play cubes on the floor. And I stay and look. All they have the white tunes, you know, no shoes. And I keep looking at that. This thing, everything comes in my mind in that day.

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So something just trickered this memory where you see this. Yeah, that's right. Right. And that's actually, I wanted to say that too. When we talked about that at the beginning, I said that's going to come up again about how this possibly was something that was happening to even in preschool age. And this is where that comes into play,

where you have this memory of seeing preschool age children and these white tunics barefoot, playing with these cubes, these blocks on the ground. And, you know, presumably you're on a ship. You're having memories of being on a ship with all gray aliens and you're seeing this. So that memory of yourself, of, oh, you're like, wait a minute. Actually, I think I've been going through this

since I was about four or five years old. And then you see these kids. And when I look, and I look in the face of the girl in the Native American, you know, and I look right in the face, right in the face, and eye by eyes. And after that, I start walking again, and it's gone. Well, I'm going out of the meeting. It's about midnight. And I was thinking, what this thing can happen? If this thing happened, when?

And they just come in my mind like, wait, I must be a kid. Because when I look at that girl, because I have about around eight, between eight, ten years old, I was looking at the face eye by high. I don't look from the top of a barn. And I say, if this thing happened, I must be at that age, about eight, nine, between eight, eight, ten years old. You know, this is what happened. And so that memory comes back to you. So that is a memory of an abduction, it sounds like.

And is that what you took away from it, that this was something that you remember being on a ship with other beings and some other children? One of the things, I'm that kind of guy, I forget real fast on the things. But that thing just come in my mind. And if you ask me 10 years from now, I believe I go tell the same story. because the thing is in my mind and they never gone. You remember it very vividly. I remember very, very well that thing, you know.

Yeah. And sometimes it's locked, you know, they lock the things and they come, you know. I'm glad you bring them up, you know, it's like locked memories. If you don't mind, I'd like to bring up how you've been hypnotized to have these regression sessions. And you had one in 2019 where in this regression session, you just, described very clearly what you were seeing. And I thought this was so specific in the way that you wrote it out to me. I actually printed it out.

And with your permission, I'd like to read it word for word. Is that okay? Okay, okay. So this is from the regression session that happened in March of 2019 performed by... I have just the answer. I have not there. Because in the middle, this, she asked me things, you know, and I gave them all the answer.

Got you. Okay. So these are the answers that you gave. We don't have the questions, but these are the answers that you gave in the regression by Dr. Gilda Mora. Mora. Molda. Okay. And so I'm just going to read that

word for word now, okay? You start off with saying, I see a white mist resembling cotton beginning to surround me. I stop feeling my feet and start feeling very heavy. At this moment, I am completely enveloped in the mist. A white light approaches

and at this moment my legs also become very heavy and I can't move them. I continue to have the mist around me. The white light approaches and then moves away and approaches again, increasing in brightness. I see something inside the light and it appears to be

growing. I'm becoming paralyzed and I feel like I'm floating and suspended off the ground. At this moment I begin to float towards the light and the yellow spiral appears above the light and I continue to ascend. Everything is dark now, but suddenly a strong yellow light appears on my left side. I start to feel my legs and my feet heavy as well as my arms, and I also feel pain in my legs as if they are being squeezed. At this moment I am lying on some sort of table,

and I see a face with large, dark eyes. I remain lying down and the face is very close to me, observing me. At this moment, another white light approaches, and my body is getting lighter and lighter. More humanoid figures are around me, and I am still lying down. I notice that the walls appear to be spongy, in shades of blue and lilac. In front of me, high up, there is a window, and a geometric shape of a large hexagon made up of smaller hexagons. At this moment, I feel the pressure on my legs again, and the face approaches me once more, almost touching me. I don't know where I am. The face remains close to me, but very near, almost touching me.

They are touching my navel, and I start to feel a tingling sensation around it. Another being with a round head and dark eyes is on my right side, and I can see that I am naked from the waist down, and there is a yellow light that starts at my knees and goes down to my gentle area. I see a device similar to something I saw in a hospital. I notice another being with a thin face and head, eyes on the side of its face, presumably this would be the insectoid, and is dressed in a hood, not doing anything but observing me.

There was this being and another one with a large head and dark eyes on my right side, but farther away. The tingling sensation on my navel starts again, and I can feel another being on my right side near my head, but I can't see it. At this moment, everything becomes dark, except for a yellow light at the end of the room. but this time I'm sitting alone I don't know where I am the walls have turned blue and lilac again I'm back to where I started seeing the mist and the light

I'm on a road I've returned and so that it was just such amazing detail Antonio that I really wanted to read through that for perspective for everyone listening listening back to that now how does that make you feel what do you remember from that I remember after that

I talked with Dr. Gilda, and I asked one of the things I was doesn't understand is why that being, you know, that gray, the small, this one of the small ones, go to close his face to my face. And what she said is this is for when I be like free and they take when they do that, before they come down and for don't worry, nothing happen, everything will be all right. right. You know, this is what she explained about all the experience she has with another adoptives, you know. But what do you think they wanted with you, Antonio, do? Or what do you think they do want with you? Do you feel like this has been a, a bad experience that they want to do bad things? Or did they have just this interest in you or they chosen you for something? What, what do you feel now after all these years? You know, a lot of time when I,

I see another documentaries of podcasts and I see people talk about, they have afraid. I have nothing that, you know. All the moment I have afraid, there was in the beginning with the paralyzed things. You know, if you feel paralyzed can move, you know. And the reason why shows me, I don't know, you know, and why they come like a family line, you know. Yes, family. That's right.

Yeah. I remember one night, we'll tell you to 2006, I saw look at the sky, and it's funny because, you know, with the time, I'm not astronomy guy, but I know like orleans constellations, plaids and, you know, I know that, you know, we don't need to be an astronomer for no death. Sure. And I look, I can't. I see the sky. It's real different. I can't see any constellations I know. It's real different.

And I feel it's a, you call dumb. You know, it's like a wrong thing. Like a dome over you? Dom, yeah, above me. And I look and I start feeling something here is next to me. And that time I looked and I sell four shadow beans in my front. And there was two tall ones and two small ones. and the

but the shadow figure you'll figure it's the great ones you know and that

moment this looks like science fiction and that moment I know there was

the guy from my left side the tall one but they don't talk they come

just in my mind that's funny and this is not happened just the first time

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And I just looked and there was a real, real small. red, white, and they come another one, and they stop next that one, like parallel. And there come another one, they come three. And I'm just look. In that moment, when I look at that, I'm sitting down at the bed and looking. And the taste I move around my bed, you know, like parallel, and they just go move around from the left. And so from the right side, go to the left side, and they stand over that.

I might just look at that. that light. There's a real small, small light. And that moment, you know, they go down, about half meter and go back again, all together. You know, it's like you see the end with the fingers, you know, they come all together. But they, after that they stop, stop move again, go to down, down to the window, and just go through the wall, and just go through the wall, just leaving all three together. They come one at the time, but when they're living, they live all two together.

And there was a strange close encounter, too. I don't know if you want, if you mind. Yeah, go for it, sure. I was in the living room. And there was all dark, and I like be in the living room, turn the radio, listening music, but all dark and thinking. And there was C-town and the radio is in my front. And I have the wall from, I'm sorry, the door from the living room, go to the kitchen.

And I have that small wall. And everything is dark. And from the corner of my eyes, I start all that part come yellow. And I look. Yes, I have just that part over there. And I saw that. I can tell if the same ones they saw before,

but this, the four, two big ones and two small ones right stand over there in the entrance of the living room because the living room is open the entrance, if no door. And I look at them and, you know, because

when you saw so many things, if you have no free, you start talking with them normal, you know? Yeah. Because you can, be ever afraid because if they want make you do something they make, you have no choice.

And I even remember the music I listening that time. And I told them all it's dark except that place is yellow. And I make them like this. Look, come, like invite them.

Come inside and listen the music. You know? This looks like funny. but this happened. And that moment, when I make like this, what comes inside, all the things come dark,

everything's up here. And I remember I'm listening that music, it's a famous music, the 17th, from the Eagles, Hotel California. Okay. I listen that music. And the living room, they have a door for go outside for the farm, and I'm just going outside.

And that moment, I saw, the most beautiful thing I saw in my life. I have a big warehouse about two meters far away from the house. And the top I saw that bald, you know, that's fair. With one part yellow, another one orange. You know, and when they touch, they mix. But the part of yellow never go inside for the orange. And the orange just make like mix.

You know, when you mix like a paint, white paint with green and you just mix. And that thing is the same. It's like that. And I saw that. It was so beautiful that thing. And it's real big. You know, it's a little big. But there was in the top of the warehouse, but it's not really on the top.

It's a little far away. But it's in the same, same directions. and I just looked that thing and just disappear and that's it. And that's all I'm talking because there was two times I saw that group of shedons that fall. I can tell if it's the same ones, but it looks like, you know, it's the big one and two small ones. So it's just, wow. Incredible. And these beings enter your home.

They're in your living room. You're just minding your home business and they're just minding your home business and they, they're just minding your home business. home business and they enter in. Yeah, just stay over there. You know, and I even doesn't think about that, you know, I just listening music and it's funny because I'm still

remember even the music I'm listening that one of the thing ever. Do you remember did they just leave once the once the light went away? Did they go on two? When I asked them, when I invite them for going inside the living room for listening to music, that thing just

disappeared. Everything comes dark. That's why I walk me right away. outside and this where I saw that. Got you. Do you feel like that was their craft or whatever they were traveling in or whatever they used to get there? What I believe in it. They must

be built from that place and just go to the that cylinder. I'm sorry, that's fair. It was a sphere. Do you feel like it was a portal, Antonio? Or do you feel like it was a fiscal craft? No, no. I feel it's some ship. It's some ship.

Okay. It's fascinating. Antonio, I mean, and how this all connects throughout your life. To wrap it up here, what do you think your, after everything we spoke about here today, what do you think your part is in this conversation for yourself, for the world, for people who want to really pay attention to this topic? What do you think your part has been after, you know, we talk about abductions, we talk about, you know, messages, we talk about all these different things. What do you think your part is in all this?

And do you think you have more of a part to play as time goes on? Yes, I think so. You know, everything depends on the choice you have, you know. The connections you have, for you can tell your story. Because I think maybe they help another people have the same stories, you know. I have a real pleasure to tell mine story, you know, to the people. Yeah. And doesn't mean this for be famous or something like that.

Just tell the story because the important is the message. Now another people listen to my story, you know. And maybe I help another people, you know, we never know. Some of these experiences that you've spoke about here today are things that, you know, I've never heard. I mean, it's just incredible some of the things that you're able to tell us here today in the circumstances under which they happened. I think is what really separates it for me as far as the timing, your location, what's going on in your life,

and the effects that it's had ever since then and still ongoing. So Antonio, thank you so much for doing this. Thank you for reaching out to me about your story and for coming on here to talk about it all. Okay, thank you. Antonio Alvis. Thanks so much coming on here to UAP. Have a good one. Bye-bye.

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story. I mean, and the implications of it, right? Even if we go back to part one where he's talking about these men in black that came to visit him as a child, they knew where he lived, they knew where his friends lived. There's driving this out-of-place black car. There's a strange looking guy in the back who looked emotionless with, you know,

waxy, pale skin. And then you're talking about some of the things that we heard right there, where these alien beings or some type of beings are inside of his house. I mean, they show up inside of his house. And then he goes outside and he sees these lights in the sky, describes it as the most beautiful thing he's ever seen and how the lights mixed together.

You know, there are so many different parts of his story that made me, or that I had connections to, where I was able to connect the dots. And maybe you had that experience as well, maybe even your own personal experience, where you heard different things from Antonio and you said to yourself, wow, that's kind of like what's happened to me in the past.

It's very possible. But it reminded me of some things that I've heard where even going back to something like with Jake Barber, right, a very well-known story. Someone who sat down with Ross Coldheart, a whistleblower in Jake Barber who says that, you know, he worked on crash retrieval and had that experience, almost a religious experience

when, you know, carrying that egg-shaped craft, And he talks about this beautiful, angelic feeling. And then I hear, and we've heard those details before from other people. And then I hear it from Antonio right there. You know, he's not a famous person. He's not someone who worked in the military. He's just a normal guy that grew up in a small village in Portugal and who's had these extraordinary experiences.

And that's why I felt that getting his story on the record, again, very rarely heard from, but getting his story on the record here on UAP would be consequential. If for no other reason, you know, maybe 90% of his story is just mistaken identity. I don't know. But if 10% of it is true and comes from a place of actual phenomenon and related to non-human intelligence, I mean, we're talking about some really, really consequential things here when it comes to Antonio's story. And then, I mean, going back to that regression session, how familiar does that sense? sound, right, with these beings, tall beings, short beings.

I thought that, you know, being paralyzed, right, not being able to move, having all these hospital-looking instruments all around you. It sounded very familiar to a lot of other abduction cases. I mean, there's a lot of matching detail there. And then those triggered memories, right? Again, another side effect, if you will, of missing time, abduction stories where we've heard people talk about how they have these lost memories all of a sudden pop back. into their head. I mean, gosh, if you want to compare it to a high-profile case, one of the most high-profile

cases of all time, makes me think of Rendell Shum Forrest with John Burroughs and Jim Penningston. I mean, they had these, you know, the missing time, the triggered memories, the missing memories that came back to them. So it's, again, to draw the correlation there, right, from these well-known stories, his well-known figures to everyday people like Antonio. And just to hear of that, you know, memory, that walk where he, he remembers walking with these tall grays on, you know, what he says is some type of alien craft and seeing other children on there. It's incredible stuff. And it matches a lot of the things that we've heard in UFO lore, right, about child abductions or hybrid children. Who knows, right? Who knows

what he saw? But he remembers seeing these children in these white tunics and playing in this room. It's, again, the implications of some of his stories that we can connect the dots to two are astronomical, no pun intended. So those are just some of the things that stuck with me, amongst many other things, but I just don't want to drone on too long about it. I think you get the idea, right? I mean, the magnitude of his testimony and all these things can't be overstated if a lot of it is true.

Again, and that is not to say that he'd be making it up. I don't accuse somebody making things up, but when I say, you know, maybe cases mistaken identity, maybe some of it is dreams, maybe who knows? Who knows, right? But you can't help but to realize that a lot of what he was experiencing, and again, you heard me say this to him, a lot of what he was experiencing in his life, a life really kind of lived away from mainstream society,

but yet he's still experiencing these things. So you don't have that outside influence. And you heard me say it, and I'll say it again, that's why I found his story in particular to be so unique and noteworthy because he's living a life outside of mainstream influence, but yet he's still relating these experiences that we hear in the mainstream. So I just, that's probably the biggest thing for me coming out of these two parts with Antonio.

Now, I did want to look back on something here from the first part as well. Before I get into some of these other stories that I, again, admittedly did not include in the episode because I felt like something has got in translation. It was going to be too hard to understand. So I just wanted to relate some things on my own that Antonio did tell me in the interview that I did not include in here, but I did want to at least relate those stories. But I wanted to go back to something real quick from part one that stuck with me and I didn't talk about it at the end of part one and I should have. And that was what he spoke about seeing that, you know, big light in the sky, that the cylindrical

light that he explained with his dad. And, you know, he talked about hearing all the animals on the ranch and from his neighbors, you know, down the way go crazy. The dogs, the horses, the goats, they're all going crazy. And he goes outside, you know, remember from part one. And all of a sudden, everybody stops. All the animal stops. It's complete silence.

And they're looking at this light overhead. And I didn't get to reflect on that enough that I think enough that I should have because I just, I found that so striking comparatively. speaking to other stories where you hear about the phenomenon connecting to animals, how animals react. And we hear about that sometimes where they almost have this sense of knowing that there's something strange happening. And I don't know if that is because of some type of natural sense, right, of another life form, or if it's because they're reacting to some type of disturbance that's occurring in their own atmosphere. You know, maybe something related

to magnetism or pressure, you know, the way that a dog reacts or an animal reacts to a thunderstorm, right? They start, I know I can speak for my dog. She starts freaking out before and during a thunderstorm. They feel that pressure change. You know, we've heard about different cases of birds where they will react a certain way before an earthquake comes. You know, humans won't know that an earthquake is coming, but some animals do.

And that's been scientifically studied and they try to figure that out. how do animals know that an earthquake is going to come? So I just, I found that part pretty interesting how the animals on the ranch, on the farm were reacting to the phenomenon during and during it happening, you know, first going crazy, then being silent.

And then as soon as it ended, they went back to normal. It was almost like, and you heard Antonio explaining it that way in part one, it was like a switch went off. It's like, okay, we're done. and they just went back to normal like nothing happens. So that's the kind of stuff that really kind of gets me, you know, really jazzed up where it's, it's a question. It's a real question.

How is that happening? Why is that happening? What is the correlation there between the animal kingdom and the UAP phenomenon? It's it's there. And what does it mean? And I love that. I love that question. I love that story.

Again, if you want to believe it, I tend to believe it. I tend to believe it. Maybe I'm wrong. But it is something that I couldn't help but to notice there and kind of reflect on. I just wanted to mention that because I didn't mention it at the end of part one. But some things that I left out. So there's a few stories here that I feel the need to relate that Antonio told me. One of them being that he had another memory unlocked, that he had a triggering event when he was watching a movie that for whatever reason made this.

this lost childhood memory popped back into his head. And he said this actually just happened a couple of years ago where this memory came back to him. He remembered all of a sudden being sick. He remembered being sick a lot as a child. And for whatever reason, that was something that was kind of lost on him over the years. But all of a sudden, this memory came flashing back to him very dramatically over the past couple of years. and he remembers being in the hospital. He remembers having like this mystery illness.

The doctors couldn't understand what was happening. He remembers thinking that he was going to die, that a priest had come into the hospital, thinking that there was nothing that could be done. And he was like the priest was praying over him as a child. It was startling stuff. And it was stuff that he didn't remember. And he couldn't understand why.

And then all of a sudden he remembered being in the woods often talking to a man who he thought was his father. And then all of a sudden this memory came back to him. And this is kind of creepy. I'm not going to lie, that what you're about to hear, that he remembers seeing this man and realizing that's not my father. He said it looked like someone like a human male in their 80s, like, you know, kind of like wrinkly skin.

And he remembers looking at this man as he turned around. and being very uncomfortable like now he's not walking with his you know hand in hand casually through the woods but actually being dragged through the woods and as the man turned around and looked at him he remembers seeing his face and this is weird

and his eyes were totally black and the way Antonio explained it was it was like looking into a cave so I don't know if that meant that he just had all black eyes and it was like looking into an abyss or if he meant like looking into actually something that is concaved. Like there were two holes in his head where eyes would be.

That's something, again, that, you know, why I didn't include it originally here in the episode because I felt like it was one of those things that was kind of lost in translation and a little bit hard to understand when he was explaining it. So I just wanted to relate that story that he had these other experiences of being sick, this mystery illness, and then being in the woods with this. man, if you will, that had these big black eyes or lack thereof that was dragging him through the woods as a child. And his family didn't remember him being sick either. Because once this memory, and this was a weird part, once that memory came back to him just a couple of years ago, he started asking his family, hey, was I sick a lot as a kid?

Was I in the hospital? And they were all like, no, like, you're totally fine. So what he believes is actually that those memories of being sick or being in a hospital or having some type of mystery illness wasn't actually happening on earth, but possibly something, some type of medical experiments he was undergoing in another worldly craft. It's very, very odd, admittedly. I'm not going to sit here and say that, you know, that wasn't a strange story. But it was something that he told nonetheless. And I wanted to bring that out. it's I mean I

don't know what to do with it like it's one of those things that just kind of leaves me you know speechless I don't even know how to comprehend that I don't know how to kind of reconcile that

but that's that's the story that he told that I wanted to bring on here so it wouldn't be left out another thing that he mentioned actually that I wanted to put out there was that when he was talking to the doctor um

Dr. Mora who he was talking about there who, you know, has helped him over the past decade kind of try to figure things out. She did the hypnotic regression with him. He mentioned that she told him, and I never heard this before, that she feels that aliens or these beings that were getting close to his face, that they were doing that as some type of reassurance that they're trying to get close to his face to tell him that like everything's going to be okay. That's something that he told me. I don't know what to make of that. I don't know if that's something that's something that you've ever heard before,

but I had never heard that explanation before. I thought it was odd. I don't know if it makes sense, quite frankly, but that's something that he did say that this doctor told him that maybe that's why they get so close to his face because it was some sense of trying to reassure him in some way that everything was going to be okay. But there's just so much to take away from this.

And I hope that it's something that you found to be interesting, maybe kind of, you know, file it away with a lot of the other stories that we've heard and add it to it now. And there was one other correlation that I made in that he mentioned a lot four beings. And usually they came in pairs of two small gray aliens and two tall gray aliens. And I just thought that was kind of strange. I mean, there was a lot of stories that he told that involved these four beings, whether it was on a craft, whether it was in his house.

It always seemed to be two small grays and two tall grays. And so again, just something to keep a mind as we try to put all this together from Antonio Alves. And lastly, I'd be completely remiss if I didn't mention that you can read his story in full. He actually did write a book about all of this. And he includes everything that we spoke about and then some a lot more. But it's in a book. He wrote a book called Gods or Civilizations from the Stars. And this was a book that he felt like he was being led to write based off of his experience.

he felt like he was being given these messages. He was being given these experiences in order to put everything down on paper and tell everybody his story. So if you'd like to do that, by all means, he did write a book about all this. And it's called gods or civilizations from the stars. And, you know, you can find it anywhere that you look for a book on Amazon and all that good stuff. So just really, really fascinating stuff, compelling, intriguing to say the least, things to

consider from Antonio Alves. And I'm really glad that I got to do this. I'm really glad that I got to present a really, you know, kind of an unheard story. Maybe you've heard bits and pieces of it from something else. Or maybe you read his book, I don't know. But I'm glad that I got to present it here in a mainstream way on UAPs. So that way we can all hear these details added to some of the other stories that we've heard and consider what we heard and maybe some of it's true.

Maybe all of it's true. Maybe half of it actually did happen. I don't know. But it's incredible to consider. That is for sure. That we know for sure. With all that said, that brings us to an end here for this two-part series with Antonio Alvans. Coming up on UAP, though, there's definitely more to come.

Next week, I've got a two-parter with our buddy Patrick Armstrong from the Vetted podcast. Awesome, fun, enlightening, deep. I don't know what other adjectives to use, but it was really, really good. I'll put it that way. Maybe that's the simplest way to put it, a conversation that I just recorded with with Patrick from Vetted. Really, really good stuff. That's probably the best way I can put it.

It's fun. It's funny. It's a little bit of everything. And we spoke for a long time, actually, out in Spain. Well, I didn't go to Spain, but Patrick lives out in Spain now. And he was kind enough to spend a lot of time with me discussing everything in the UFO world, including his own new documentary that covers a subject that, you know, I find extremely compelling and fascinating.

And that is psionics. and the psychic connection that people claim to have with UFOs, being able to summon UFOs using remote viewing. He actually went out in the field and spoke to people out there and tried it himself. And his results were noteworthy. We'll put it that way. Very noteworthy. So look forward to hearing that two-parter with Patrick next week.

And I know I will say this. I will acknowledge this. I'm not going to act like I haven't heard it before. Some of you hate the two parts. I'll just put it out there. Some of you cannot stand that I do two-parters. But the reason why I do it is just really based off of my own philosophy. And it quite honestly makes my life easier.

If I'm being 100% up front with you, it really just makes my life easier to split these things up and present it in two ways. That way I can just, I feel like it's more comprehensive. I get more out there. And I feel like it's rushed. Maybe you don't feel that way. You hate it.

I'm sorry. I hope you still enjoy the episodes. I hope you still listen to them. But it just makes my life easier to put these things into two parts. And that way I feel like it just get more out of it. Like, you know, take smaller bites instead of one giant bite. So that's why I do it. I hope you stick around.

I hope it doesn't chase you away that I do two parts. Not everything is in two parts, right? I mean, sometimes it's all one part and one episode after the other. But that said, you can look forward to that next week. Just a fantastic, fantastic conversation with Patrick from Vetted. I can't wait for you to hear that because it was really. really good. I'm not going to lie. It was really good. So that's coming up next week here on UAP,

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