UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 188 The Disclosure Process Has Begun

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Release the UFO Files! That was the command of the President last night in what was the culmination of a week long series of shocking events that have now brought us to the official start of the disclosure process. A lot of things are about to change and Stephen Diener breaks down everything over the past week that has led us to this watershed moment in time...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And this one is going to be a doozy, dare I say, maybe even a historic episode here of UAP. So thanks for stopping by. Thanks for joining here today. If you're following along on Twitter, you pretty much know what this episode is going to be about today. because I was all pumped up last night. And as I, you know, speak here today and record this on February 20th to get ready to put this out here today. If you saw my reactions last night on February 19th, due to President Trump's comments and truth social post on disclosure, then you know exactly what this episode is going to be about here today,

which is talking about everything that has happened on the disclosure front within the past seven days or so, with seven to ten days. And I believe, just my own observations, maybe you agree or disagree, I think more has happened here in this front, in this conversation within the past 10 days, then maybe has even happened in the past, dare I say, 10 years? Quite honestly, I'm sorry for my voice.

I'm getting over a little bit of a cold, but I wouldn't let this cold stop me from coming on here and doing what I think to be a hugely important episode because what I want to do here today is go over the past 10 days or so, and break down everything that we've seen, kind of put it all together in this nice package here today for this episode of UAPs, so that way we have something to refer back to here

and look back on and say, okay, that's how all of this kind of went down. This is how the dominoes fell. And I'm going to start back with my interview, actually, with Mark Christopher Lee. So even going back a little bit before this, on February 12th, I interviewed Mark Christopher Lee. And just to go a little bit before that,

about a week before I interviewed him, Mark Christopher Lee came out and went viral internationally talking about his source who has told him. I'm sure you know the story by now. His source who has told him that President Trump already has a disclosure speech written and is going to deliver that speech on July 8th. Furthermore, when he came on the show here with me, he revealed that his source who is telling him this stuff is going to come out himself or herself, I don't know. on May 1st. And this source, Mark Christopher Lee's source, is going to reveal themselves and say, here I am. I'm the one that's giving this information to Mark.

And this is why I'm saying it. This is why I'm doing this. And the president has a disclosure speech planned and is going to give it planned anyway on July 8th, which of course is the anniversary of Roswell this year being the 79th anniversary of Roswell. So that brought us to February 2. 12, and that's when Mark and I spoke about all this. One of the chances that this is actually going to happen. If you remember, if you heard, Mark said that he gives it a nine out of ten chance that Trump will make the speech.

He probably thinks even higher of it now after the events of the past really just, you know, 48 hours, honestly, which is incredible to think about how much this accelerated so very quickly. So that takes us to a couple of days later, right? We have the interview with Mark Christopher Lee. He gives everything here on the show. what to expect moving forward. Then we get to Valentine's Day. And I remember this specifically being on Valentine's Day

because I was coming home from lunch with my wife for Valentine's Day. And God bless her, she puts up with me. My goodness, does she ever put up with me in my escapades here with UAP? She was driving, so I'm just going to put that out there because I was on my phone and I came across the post with former President Obama on the podcast that he went on saying that he thinks aliens are real.

And so that's why I remember vividly Valentine's Day because we were on the way home. And I was like, whoa, like, at first it almost didn't even register when I heard it. And I'm like, wait a minute, did he just say that? Like, okay, wait, hold on, that's a big deal. And then I started looking more into it like, okay, when did this happen?

Oh my gosh, okay, this was like an hour ago. Here is the clip, the famous clip now, of former President Obama saying he believes aliens are real. They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in, what is it? Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy, and they hit it from the President of the United States.

We'll get to that in a second, because I think it would be a rude awakening for him, that he's right about that. I forget the guy's name and I apologize because I do want to attribute to him. Brian Taylor Cohen I think was the podcast but when he was on and made those

statements of course that sent everything into a frenzy right everybody starts talking about it oh my gosh did we just get disclosure from a former president a sitting or former president has never said those words before aliens are real and Obama said it

right there so of course rightfully so it got attention everywhere It spread like wildfire across news outlets, across social media, everyone talking about it, friends and family talking about it, and again, my poor wife having to deal with this on Valentine's Day on my end. But then we get to the next day on February 15th where Obama has to come out and clarify because all of us thought, why didn't we get a follow-up question? Why didn't we hear, hey, hold on a second. You're a former president and you just said aliens are real.

Can you elaborate on that? maybe do you believe your opinion is that aliens are real based off of just your own observations? Or are you saying aliens are real because that's what you have had briefed to you in your presidential capacity during your two terms? We didn't get the follow-up questions. So we were all left to kind of, you know, left to our own devices to kind of figure out what the heck did we just hear. So that's when we get on February 15th, Obama,

former President Obama to come out on his Instagram and put out the statement saying basically, in short, I'm not going to read the whole thing right now, but to summarize it, this was my belief. You know, I wasn't trying to cause a whole stir here just based off of the vastness of the universe. And of course, I'm paraphrasing here. This is a direct quote. But, you know, the general idea of him saying this was just my own belief based off of the vastness of the universe that there are aliens. But again, reiterating in his post on Instagram that he had never been shown anything, to see that aliens were real.

Well, we thought we would just let that lie there, right? And I thought at that point, okay, this is pretty interesting because remember, now we already had the interview with Mark Christopher Lee, and he's already put the information out there that President Trump is going to have this disclosure speech. And now all of the sudden, we have a former president who is coming out and saying aliens are real, even if it just ended up being what he believes to be true, not necessarily based. off of any briefings that he got, which was the statement that he made. But more on that in a second.

Let's first finish going through the timeline here. We took a few days off to theorize and let this all simmer. And then on February 18th, just a couple of days ago from right now, we had the president's daughter-in-law, Laura Trump. And actually, she had been speaking about this on her own podcast for the past few days. And then she went on with a reporter when she was asked, hey, has the president told you anything about aliens? And she had this to say.

We've kind of asked my father-in-law about this because we're like, well, what do you know? Because Miranda, we all want to know about the UFOs. Or we all want to know what's going on. And he played a little coy with us. And so that, of course, led us to believe. Eric and I were like, oh, my gosh, if he won't even, like, fully tell us, maybe there's more to it. And then I have just heard kind of around that I think he's actually said. I think my father-in-law has actually said it that there is some speech that he has that I guess at the right time.

And I don't know when the right time is. He's going to break out and talk about and it has to do with maybe some sort of extraterrestrial life. Maybe, right? Maybe some sort of extraterrestrial life. So there we go, right? Where Laura Trump is saying all this and saying that he has. the speech plan, that's what she's heard. Now, my curiosity is, did she hear that through the grapevine through Mark

Christopherly's reporting, through maybe him even being here on UAP, maybe she saw some of the videos or saw some of the posts? I really have no idea where she's getting the information from. It could be just from the information we were all getting, right? From the same source. So, but then you heard her say, which was interesting because that was the first time we heard anybody else say it within the inner circle of saying that, I believe actually he has mentioned that he might have his speech planned to talk about, you know, she didn't use

the word disclosure, but some type of disclosure. So that was very attention-grabbing right there. And that got us all into his. He's saying, oh, my gosh, is the speech actually real? Are we really going to get this in about four and a half months down the road? And then just a few hours later, on February 18th, the press secretary, Caroline Levitt, was asked the question from one of the reporters in the press pool. I want to say with CBS, but I'm not exactly sure.

One of the reporters in the press pool asking about all of this and what Laura Trump had to say, and I don't have that clip here, but to paraphrase, Caroline Levitt pretty much said, I don't know about any speech. I'll have to talk to our speechwriters to see what they have planned. And there was laughter in the room. The usual laughter that's, you know, is the dismissive laughter whenever the UFO, UAP discussion comes up within, you know, mainstream circles. Oh, how funny, funny, little green men.

It's so cute. X-Files, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. They weren't laughing a couple of days later. Actually, the next day, because that's when we got this question from Fox News reporter, Peter Ducey. This came on Air Force One as Trump was traveling from Georgia back to D.C.

And Peter Ducey from Fox News asked President Trump, can you tell us anything about aliens based off of, He didn't ask about any of the speeches, what Laura Trump had to say. He asked him in framing the question, what did you think about what former President Obama had to say, saying that aliens are real? And this is the one that set it all off yesterday. Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth? Well, he gave class of right information. He's not supposed to be doing that.

So aliens are real. Well, I don't know if they're real or not. I can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. Okay, so that was, again, another big tip there, another huge thing to hear that now you have a sitting president saying, for the first time, I mean, that was a monumental moment. Make no mistake about it. You can have your own opinion, by all means, about what this all might actually mean, you know, what is the play here, what's going to happen from here on out? But the fact is that we just had a sitting president admit, essentially, that alien.

information is classified and that former President Obama, according to what Trump was saying, that, you know, he might have revealed classified information. That was a very big moment. A very big moment. So much so, again, got everybody's

attention. Peter Ducey from Fox News. Credit to him for asking the question, honestly, because, you know, a lot of reporters would shy away from it. A lot of it, it's still very taboo to mainstream media. Even though it's got picked up so much, I know Fox had on Dan Farrah along with Bill Maher had on Dan Farah. He was everywhere.

CNN had on Dan Farrah. Of course, the director of the Age of Disclosure film, you know, leading up to that release on Amazon. And so since then, a lot of this has really become, you know, more acceptable. I shouldn't say since then. I mean, really, from the congressional hearings, a lot of that has, a lot of that stuff over the past five years, maybe five to eight years, has really played into this discussion more and more becoming more acceptable in the mainstream media. I don't think five years ago, or maybe even three years ago, you would have had a presidential pool reporter from a major news network,

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was the post that President Trump put up on his truth social platform. And this is when everything just went up to another level that we've never seen before. I'm going to read this word for word. I'm going to break this down because I believe that this was written in a specific manner for a specific reason. Here was the post that President Trump put on his truth social platform last night, as I speak here, last night on February 19th. It reads, based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to alien and. and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomenon,

UAP in parentheses, and unidentified flying objects, UFOs in parentheses. He continues, and any and all other information connected to these highly complex, but extremely interesting, and important matters.

And finishes the post with God bless America. So let's break this down. Oh, and also worth mentioning Secretary of War, formerly Secretary of Defense. Of course, they changed the name recently, Pete Hexeth retweeted the post

with an emoji, an alien face emoji, and a saluting emoji. So basically saying, you know, yes, sir, Mr. President, we're on it. We'll get to the bottom of this and release what we know about aliens. Massively significant. My opinion, paradigm shifting moment. We'll see what comes of it, and we're going to get to that here as well in the second part of the episode.

But to me, just from that, again, never in the history of the presidency has a statement been put out like that. Same thing here. Think what you want about the statement. Think what you want about the motive or the reason why this is happening or whatever it is or what you think may or may not happen down the road.

The fact is this post was made and that's never been done before. So that in itself should be recognized. I want to break this down here sentence by sentence because I do believe this was constructed in a certain manner, deliberately. So, of course, it starts off based on the tremendous interest. Of course, you're

acknowledging that a lot of people are talking about this, right? He's directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies. So that to me, that part was very important to me because that showed that he is not blind to the fact that this is outside of even the Pentagon's purview, that the secret lies within other departments. and agencies, whether that be other intelligence agencies like the CIA or even, you know, anything outside of the Pentagon, the Department of Energy, for goodest sakes. We've heard about them for so long and so many other departments and agencies. He included them all in there, which I thought was very, very significant.

So he gives other relevant departments and agencies to lump them all in with the Pentagon, of course, where the Secretary of War resides. and then he mentions to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to, you know, UAP, alien and all that. But then he says, and any and all other information connected to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important matters. So in that one sentence, he has put into context making sure that he has his basis covered, essentially saying, don't leave anything out. I want everything out there. This is a directive from a sitting president saying, I want everything out there concerning the UFO topic. Any and all information connected to these highly complex, acknowledging the complexity of the situation, of the decades and decades of perceived cover-up, of course, but also mentions interesting and important matters.

And to use the word important, he is now taking away, in my opinion, he is now showing. showing people that this is not something to laugh at. The President of the United States has just called the UFO matter and matters of, you know, extraterrestrial life important and worthy of attention. So much so that the Department of War, the Pentagon and all other relevant agencies and departments have been directed to identify and declassify all relevant files. This was such a big statement. I honestly can't overstate this.

And it took everything within me last night. I wanted to jump on Twitter right away and go on spaces and make a video and just talk for hours on end about what this meant. But I wanted to kind of save it all here for today. So that way I wouldn't have to repeat myself. So that was kind of a recap of everything that we've seen over the past week or so, okay? We're the past seven to ten days. And again, the acceleration of how all this has been taking place is mind-boggling. Like it's making my head spin

how much this is accelerated over the past seven to ten days. So we have the post, we have the directive, and now what? Right? Well, now we have reactions. Now we have theories. I want to start with

Lou Elizondo, actually. Lou put out a statement earlier today, and of course, everybody knows, I think, who Lou Elizondo is, one of the main names in the disclosure effort. Think what you will have

Lou. He's been here on the show. I enjoy talking to him. Hope to have him on again in the future. Of course, he was one of the main players in the Age of Disclosure film. And he had this to say on Twitter earlier today. Thank you, President Trump, and to those in your administration, as well as those in past administrations who fought for the same goal. Thank you to Congress, to the media, to the whistleblowers, and to the American people whose faith and persistence made this moment possible. This is the culmination of many years of effort, Lou says, years in which families, careers, and personal safety were often placed at risk simply to have this conversation. He says, I am deeply grateful to witness this day and to honor those who helped begin this journey in 2007.

And most notably, he goes on to mention a few senators like Harry Reid and Ted Stevens. He says, it finishes by saying as we move forward toward greater disclosure and transparency, my hope is that this moment brings people together. I have always believed that America is strong enough to face the truth and that the American people deserve nothing less. And then he finishes by saying, I am proud to have been a part of this effort. Now, again, I think that's a big statement from Lou

because he has been, of course, a main player and one of the big names in this effort for the past, you know, 10 years, give or take, really, if you want to go that far back. You know, even going back behind the scenes as well. But he wasn't the only one to talk. In fact, the other, I guess, for lack of a better term, star of the age of disclosure, Jay Stratton had this to say. And I'll read part of his statement here because he also put this out on Twitter.

And the reason why I'm doing this is to highlight the main players and their thoughts on this. They find this historic as well. Jay Stratton goes, President Trump's announcement is a landmark occasion for us all. After years of fighting for disclosure behind the scenes, I couldn't be prouder to be a part of it. of this turning point in human history. He goes on to congratulate everybody involved to Dan Farrah for the Age of Disclosure movie,

for those efforts. And he goes on to say, we are all living in the age of disclosure. There will be more watershed moments and issues to face ahead. But I hope all of humanity celebrates this moment. Big statements to me to see that from Jay Stratt and Lue Alizondo kind of in sync together to highlight the historic importance of what we just witnessed here over the past couple of days. And that kind of takes me into more of the, you know, the now what portion of this, which is,

what about the reported speech, right? July 8th, where Trump is supposed to have this disclosure speech. What about May 1st? Where Mark Christopher Lee's source is supposed to come out in a press conference in D.C. to reveal who they are and say why they're putting this all out there. Well, maybe those dates. come, but also maybe this acceleration might change those things. Maybe we get earlier disclosure than we thought.

Or, this is all part of a plan to take us to those dates. I'll get to that more in a second, along with what I mentioned earlier, because it connects about Obama's admission that he thinks aliens are real. I think this all connects. the date, the speech announcement, Obama's podcast appearance, Trump's statements, Trump's truth social. I believe this is all connected.

But before I get to that, I want to also point out the reactions have come in hot and heavy from the religious sector. Now, this has always been a point of contention. This has always been a main point of conversation within the UFO field and one that I've always had myself

and one that I've always found to be a main cog. I've never shied away from it. I've always thought it was a main cog in the disclosure conversation. And, well, it proved to be that. Because as soon as all this came out, you had a lot of people within Christianity and Catholicism and other religions come out and say, you know, this is not true.

The church doesn't teach this. Aliens are demons. There was a lot of matter-of-fact. statements that were being made that I think are irresponsible and also that I wasn't surprised about. We always saw this coming. We always saw one of the main, I guess, hurdles to disclosure being religion. How are people of faith, whatever faith that might be, going to take this news once it

actually comes out? And we started to see that on the reactions throughout social media of a lot of people of faith, specifically from what I saw Catholicism, Christianity coming out and just basically rebuking the whole thing, saying this is no good, it's not true, and if it is true that they're demons. So it's a lot of the reaction that I expected over the years. Let me speak to that real quick before we get to the final theories here about how this all connects and why I think this, everything we've seen in the past seven to ten days is all part of one big picture. But first on the religious aspect, my belief, my personal conviction has always been,

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While we bring you to our island home Hawaii starts here But my overall point has been, why shouldn't we think outwardly? Why should we think so? I had this closed thought that we're the only sentient beings, that an all-powerful God who created the universe and everything inside of it, that were the only ones that he made. It's never made any sense to me.

And I know a lot of other people think that way. but for one reason or another, a lot of people think that a thought like that is blasphemy or that a thought like that is only going towards, you know, demons. All these are demons. And I know a lot of people in D.C.

in Washington, D.C., that's been a belief throughout the years for people within Congress or the Pentagon or positions of power in Washington. So this has always been a point of contention, big time. Books have been written on it, theological discussions have been made on it, movies have been made about it,

So this isn't anything new. But that's always been my overall point. Why shouldn't we consider that? On top of that, as a practicing Catholic, I have also recognized that the Vatican has spoken about this and actually studied the UIP phenomenon for as far as we know the past century and maybe even more before that. So why would we rebuke this? Why is this something that we would look at and say, you know, put up our two fingers like it's a vampire? No, no, go away. You're evil.

If the Vatican is studying this, that means that they're acknowledging at least the possibility that someone else or something else is out there. They have one of the biggest scientific study areas for space in the world. I mean, so to me it's silly to think that we're the only ones or that it's against God to think that we, that there might be other life. That, to me, personally, has never really made much sense to think that way. But that's the way a lot of people are approaching this. And there's a lot of ontological shock out there right now

and they're having trouble accepting the fact that, you know, their understanding might be challenged. And at the same token, not only has the Vatican taken this seriously, like I said, for at least the past 100 years that we know of, but even past popes like the late Pope Francis has spoken about it. He spoke about this a couple of years before his passing, saying that, you know, the Catholic Church acknowledges that there might be other life out there. And if that there is, they believe that they fall under the one true God and that they could be saved by Jesus as well in his teachings. So the Pope said that, for God's sakes, okay? Again, not this current Pope Leo, but former Pope Francis. Even some of the saints have spoken on this.

If you really want to get into, you know, theology, St. Padre Pio is a very famous saint in the Catholic Church. He spoke about alien life. Not in a funny way, not in a rebuking way, but as a way of saying, God's creation is vast and maybe beyond our understanding. So, again, why we would put this lid on an all-powerful God, And for us as humans, these little insignificant things, these little blips on a radar that is the vastness of the universe that our minds can't even comprehend.

But we think we're it and we think we got it all figured out. That to me is naive. And quite frankly, I hate to say this in such an accusatory tone, but it's ignorant to think that we, little humans, understand everything. that we understand God's vastness and God's infinite plans. We have no idea. And that's always been my take

on the alien conversation to begin with. You know, you look behind me if you're watching the video on YouTube where it says, decide for yourself, right? I'm trying to move out of the way and I can't figure out the camera here. If you see it on YouTube, decide for yourself. That's all, that's on my banner behind me as I have this video

on YouTube. That's always been the motto. You know that. to UAP throughout the years. So my understanding, in my opinion, has always been, I don't know. I'm just going based off of my own personal opinion. But the thing that bothers me, and we saw a lot of it over the past 24 to 48 hours, is people act like they know. How could you know what else God might have done or who else he might have created?

Again, yes, I understand what the scriptures say. I get it, but there still might be other life out there that maybe wasn't specifically mentioned. I don't know and you don't know. And to act like we know exactly what's happening is, I don't know, it's arrogant. Maybe that's a better word than ignorant. It's arrogant of us.

That's the better word. Erigant of us to think that we know exactly all of the answers. We don't. We have an idea about what's going on. We can make educated guesses. but to sit there and talk about how this is all figured out and these are demons, this whole thing is evil, don't approach it in any other way than that,

that's wrong. And we should be open-minded. We should have curiosity to try to understand more of God's creation. That to me is what it's all about. So I'll get off my high horse now, but I had to comment on that reaction that I was seen from the religious sector

because we always knew it was going to come. So just imagine. just based off of a presidential statement saying we need to declassify these alien files because a sitting president acknowledged that there are classified alien files, which had never been done before. So this was a watershed moment, which is why I wanted to read specifically Jay Stratton's comments and Louis-Lizondo's comments because their sentiment echoes what I've been saying here, which is this is a very, very big deal.

And it is something that's a very big domino to fall. it's a big domino that we've been waiting for to fall one that we've been working toward for a long time all the congressional hearings all the witnesses all of the whistleblowers all the stories all the documenting that i've done here on uap if i just want to throw myself into the conversation it's it's all been and quite frankly everybody else within this space there's a lot of podcasts out there you know i mentioned some names like uap gurb like chris ramsay like jesse michael like uh jeremy corbell and george knapp and patrick from vetted, good friend who's been here on the show. These are all things that we've been doing, and I know there's many more out there. Kelly Chase, who's been on here. I know there's a lot more. But these are all things that we've been doing

out of a passion project to try to get the word, continue to get the word out there, that there's more to this that meets the eye, and that there is a truth that needs to be revealed. And this feels like we have reached a new step, which, obviously, you heard there from Jay Stratton and Lou Elizondo as well.

So what are the theories? Let's finish off with this. What do we think now? What's going to happen next? Then why is this all happening in this moment? In my opinion, okay? Again, behind me on the banner, decide for yourself. In my opinion, I believe this was all orchestrated.

Now, I would say that might sound crazy, but is anything else really going to be that crazy compared to what else has happened over the past seven days or so where you've had a former president and a sitting president talking about aliens in a way that we've never heard before. So I don't think it's too crazy for me to theorize about this and saying that I believe this is all orchestrated. What do we mean by that?

Well, let's go back to the beginning. Mark Christopher Lee, the British showmaker, journalist, comes on to social media, early February, late January to say that he's been told that the president has a speech written and is going to disclose it on July 8th. He comes here on the show, says the same thing, puts all the dates, puts all the information out there. Then we say, okay, let's see what happens. And then all of a sudden, we start to see the wheels in motion. Coincidentally or not, February 14th, Obama comes out and says what he says. A few days later, Laura Trump comes out and says what she says.

We went over all of this, right? President Trump last night says what he says what he says. Post what he posts. I believe that this is all an orchestrated plan. This is the procedure that has been laid out to get us to that disclosure date of July 8th. Now, that said, and Mark has mentioned this as well, that date may not be set in stone. That date might still change when it comes to, you know, reading the room, if you will. Maybe they will see that.

Okay, maybe people are more ready for this now than we thought. We don't have to wait four and a half months from now. We can come out sooner than later. Maybe President Trump will come out May 1st and Mark's source won't even have to come out themselves to reveal themselves. Maybe they'll preempt that source to come out and have the disclosure speech. But my point is, and my read on the situation is, and this was my main thought last night when all this went down, was that this is all part of the process. to lead us up to the disclosure speech.

Yes, I am alleging that former President Obama and President Trump are working together on this. If you're wondering if that's what I'm alleging, yes, that's what I'm alleging. Again, you might think I'm crazy. I probably am. I think I've said crazier things. I don't know. But my read on this is it doesn't make sense for this to be a coincidence. We get this story about a timeline, about a speech, about a date, and then the,

the presidents start talking about it, one after the other. President Trump starts getting asked about it after Obama's asked about it. I do believe that it was Obama's part to answer the question on the podcast like he did. And then from there, to have questions come out about it in the media, put it all out there, let people get used to it. Then from there, have President Trump get asked about it, put it out there again. say that maybe Obama revealed classified information. Whoa, wait, are you saying aliens are real? I don't know, but maybe it was classified.

And then puts out the order, get the files out there. So I think, and I could be wrong, and that's fine, but I think all of this over the past week has been a concerted effort and a planned procedure to give the United States citizens and really the citizens of the world because this is international news. So to give the world soft disclosure, to kind of put the idea out there, start talking about it, get used to it.

You know, these big moments where the president mentions it, you have two presidents talking about it. Let people get used to it. Because what's the other option? The other option is on, let's say July 8th, the speech actually happens. There was no primer for it. There was no lead up to it. There was no talk about, hey, this is really going to happen other than within UFO circles. And we know that's a very, very small part of the population.

So all of a sudden, the president of the United States is going to get up in front of the world and disclose aliens. People wouldn't know what to do. I mean, it would take a while for them to process that. I'm not saying there's going to be panic in the streets and rioting and markets would crash. I've never believed that, to be fair. but it would throw people off if it just came out of nowhere so maybe

the better plan is to use a soft disclosure let's cushion the blow let's get movies like the age of disclosure out there let's get movies like Disclosure Day from Steven Spielberg right that's coming out in June

that kind of coincides with our timeline it's a month before the reported date of Trump speech I don't know if that's part of the plan or if that part's a coincidence, I have no idea. But my overall point is with this past week specifically and everything that has taken place, it makes more sense to me that a soft disclosure procedure is more likely than we're just going to throw this at you.

Have a nice day. We'll talk to you later. Soft disclosure is what I'm going to call this. Makes more sense. And I think what this will lead to is for. for the next four and a half months, you know, people will start to forget about it a little bit. Time will move on. Big stories will come out, whatever those might be.

The news cycle continues, right? On the news cycle, they won't even be talking about this by Monday. Let's face it, they'll talk about it more today, and they already have. But throughout the weekend, the Olympics will end. Iran is in the news. Epstein is in the news. The news cycle will continue to move on, and people will start to forget. But that gives the Trump administration the next four.

and a half months to dig into this and then maybe all the sudden on July 8th the president comes out and says due to my directive we have been digging through the files and we're ready to tell you what we found out now the cushion is there now the preparation has been put in place he told you that he wanted the information out there he told you that you know he wants the files released and now guess what we're going to release the files I'm going to tell you what's going on instead of it being just boom aliens so that's my overall point by saying that makes more sense to me than you know the alternative i think it may be not all of it but most of it has been a very orchestrated effort to get people used to the idea and get us ready for what's coming that's my theory

makes sense maybe there's holes in it up to you but that's that's what i'm thinking so in the end what kind of disclosure will we get? This has been another big question. I don't believe my theory here or my opinion is I don't think we're going to get you know everything at once. I believe we'll get what David Grush has referred to as, you know, just this basic disclosure.

I've spoken about it here before, the three main points, we're not alone. We've had crashes and we've recovered craft and bodies. I think that's what we're going to get. Those three things. Basic disclosure. We're not alone. They've been here.

They've crashed and we've recovered that stuff. I know that put it all together that you know what I mean. So that's what I think we're going to get. Now, from there, because that's easy to manage, the government can put a handle on that, they can control that narrative. But from there, everything else is going to stem off. And that's what they have to be ready for.

Then people start asking the questions, rightfully so. How long have you known? How long has the United States government and other governments of the world been lying about this? What have we reverse engineered? Have people been killed over this secret? Have people's lives been ruined over this secret? All these stories that we've heard, right? From whistleblowers and the sort and in the past people who've been supposedly silenced.

We've talked about it for decades. What else? What about abductions? Are people getting abducted? Is the U.S. government aware of the abduction phenomenon? Is there anything they can do about it? Or are they in cooperation with the alien races to allow it? These are all questions that are going to start to come up, and they are hard questions,

but they're questions that will come. And these, maybe we'll get answers. Maybe we won't, because I'm not sure, you know, how and when they're going to have to answer for those things. About reverse engineering, about the abduction phenomenon, and so much more in there. And especially about the genesis, if you will, of alien life. where did they come from? Who are they? Do they have a religion?

Do they believe in a Christian dogma, Jewish dogma, a Muslim dog? I don't know. Okay? Do they have their own belief system? People will start to ask these questions. And again, these are all very fair questions. And these are the questions that excite me

because these are new discoveries. This is going to be one of the biggest stories in human history if it unfolds, continues to unfold like we've seen it unfold. And then, of course, the past, right? we can start asking, okay, how long have they been coming here? Did they really help to build the pyramids? Were they really involved with ancient Egypt and other ancient cultures in South America? So there's going to be a lot that comes from this that is not going to be answered right away.

And I want to stress that. If the speech actually does happen, it is not going to be, here is everything. It's going to be basic disclosure. Ladies and gentlemen, you know, the great citizens of America, we're not alone. and we've recovered craft. We had a crash in Roswell in 1941. This and that. We had, you know, operational security.

We couldn't reveal it for this reason, that reason. But now we're working together with our allies to further discover what's out in the universe. Stuff like that, okay? I'm not a presidential speechwriter, but something along those lines. That's what I believe we're going to get. But then the bigger issue will be, like I said,

the questions that follow. And that's something that the government is going to have to be ready for, and also the governments of the world, adversaries and allies alike. That can be one of the main things that stem from this moving forward and of course the religious discussion, like I said. You know, how do the world's religions

also mitigate and explain this truth if it when it comes out? It's exciting times. We never seen anything like this. Again, this was a very big step, which is why I wanted to do this episode today, even recovering from a cold. And again, I apologize

if my voice has been a little bit raspy. But I wasn't going to let me, I was not going to let that stop me here today. Not at all. So, again, just massive things that have taken place here over the past seven to ten days. It is my honor

and my biggest, I guess, yeah, honor is probably the best word of my career that I've been able to maybe even be just a small, tiny part of what we've been seen here over the past seven to ten days. Hopefully some of the things that I've been able to do here on UAP, whether it's the interviews, whether it's the episodes, whether it's the discussions that we've started here on the show. Hopefully it's been able to help to push this process forward. I hope. I really do. I don't know if that's true,

but it really has been my honor to go through this journey with you. And now I can say, I think we've hit a new step and quite frankly, we've only just begun. We have begun a whole new process here in the UFO topic and the disclosure effort. What's going to be the next domino to fall? It's only going to speed up from here. So stick around. Stay tuned because we are not anywhere close to being done. And, you know, I'll cover it here on UAP.

Thanks so much for tuning in here today to go over all this. It's just super exciting. So be sure to continue to follow along on social media as things develop. It's incredible to see this all develop in real time At UA Podcast 850 on Twitter and on TikTok At UA Podcast on YouTube Where are you watching this today If you're on YouTube, I appreciate that

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