UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 19: The Curious Case of Andrew Basiago

Episode Date: November 5, 2021

Imagine being able to time travel and see the Gettysburg Address, or having the technology to teleport to different locations such as Mars. Well, according to Andrew Basiago, he actually did those things and says that he has proof of that and alien life. And you won't believe who he says he went to Mars with!... This is unbelievable stuff and Karen and Diener cover it all in this wild episode of UAP. Oh, and did we mention the secret military department that supposedly has footage of the crucifixion of Christ? Yeah...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This is a doozy. This is something in the interest of full disclosure, because that's what we're about here. That's right. Yes, all about full disclosure. Unlike, you know, the government, but that's a different story. So, you know, look,

the government obviously has been hiding the truth about all this stuff for a long time, at least in our opinion. And even so much so that they finally had some type of disclosure back in July, which was kind of the start of this podcast, and why we decided to do it to begin with. But one thing that I've been sitting on

has been this story about a man named Andrew Boshio. And this is a guy that is extremely fascinating, might be crazy. He's a wakadoodle. Might be a pathological liar and making things up. But that's why we do this because you decide. You decide. We present you with a story and you decide

if it's something that is credible or if it sounds too crazy to be true. And today is one of those cases. It is. And of course I want to start with the UAP factoid Stephen. Oh, yes, please. Just breaking now. Oh.

China working on a complex mission to collect Mars rock samples and deliver them to Earth by building on the successes of recent Moon and Mars missions. Wow. So the mission's likely to be named Taiwan II. Okay. It could launch as soon as 2008 with the goal of returning samples around 2030. Wow.

Such a mission has never before been attempted. However, Stephen, there's a leading competitor in what would be seen as a race to Mars and back. And I would think that's probably Elon Musk? Yeah, it's us. NASA and EESA are already collaborating to conduct a Mars sample return mission. And the Perseverance Rover, of course, we had sound. of that. And it touched down on Mars on February in September, and it was collecting its first samples for potential later delivery to Earth. So, nah, yeah. Wow. How about that? But,

you know what? Somebody already beat us to it. The other major component of my truth campaign has been to establish not only the fact that Mars is an inhabited planet, but that our government, the United States government, has been sending U.S. chrononauts to the planet Mars. since the late 1970s and has established a secret colony there. Well, that's a way to start off the subject, isn't it? Wait, wait, there's more. Here's in this image. We have one of the Martian life forms that I call Pleziasaurus,

which are very similar to the Pleziasaurus that were rife on this planet before the KT extinction event. I wonder if the Chinese will send one of those Pleasiosaurus back. So this is so fascinating. So that right there was Andrew Bacciago. That's a guy. So we're in the thick of it now, okay? So we just kind of threw that at you.

So this guy, and he talked about the Pleasiosaurus, which is something that I will have on our UAP blog. The picture. Yes, the picture of the supposed pleasiosaurus, which he says is a creature on Mars that was captured by the Mars rover. Right. So wait, he has a photographic evidence of this. Well, he took the picture that the Mars rover took and says that's what it is.

So I will have that on the UAP blog, 850 WFTL.com. You can find all the images that we talk about from each episode as well as any past episode that you might have missed or wanted to listen to and haven't been able to yet. So you can always find it there. We dip in back and forth because we're going to talk about teleportation. We already did that. So you might want to check out past episodes that kind of elaborate on what we're talking about now. Right. Yes.

You're right. We do refer back to a lot of previous episodes. So this guy, Angie Bashiago, again, nice introduction there to him. He's talking about the word chrononaut. You heard that there. You probably heard what the heck is that? So first, let's start at the beginning. Andrew Bosciago is a guy who claims that he's a time traveler.

And he's been able to teleport as well to different points in time and to Mars and things of that nature to see Mars colonies to look back at, say, the Gettysburg Address, which we're going to get to in a little while, even back to the crucifixion of Jesus. Oh, he saw Jesus, really? And so I don't think we have sound of that one, but that's something that I came across myself. You don't have sound of Jesus? No, no, I don't. So this guy claims that he was part of a super secret government program that derived technology from Nikola Tesla, who we all know and love. And it is said, and maybe we'll do an episode on Tesla in the future, but it said, I don't know if you've heard this, Karen. When Tesla died, he was basically, his technology was.

basically buried by big government and big companies who didn't want all this free energy out that he found out. You can't have free electricity for all at all times? No, of course not. Why not? Why not make the world a better place? So he basically was buried in all his patents and lost a bunch of money and things like that. It had his technology stolen from him.

And when he died at the hotel apartment that he was in or hotel, I forget which one, the government, so they say, government agents came in and took all his papers out of his room. And so the story goes that, at least how Angel Bacago tells the story, that the government derived this technology of time travel, so to speak, from Tesla's papers. And they were able to figure out how to do all this from his technology and everything in his secret papers that people to this day still don't know what he had written on those papers that were recovered after his death. We do know that there were papers and no one knows where they are. The dog ate him. Yeah, I guess so. So tell us about Project Pegasus. So this is, so Project Pegasus basically is the whole thing, really, from the government that wanted to use time travel to their advantage, right?

To go back and look at certain periods and time and history or to, you know, maybe try to change things, whatever it might be. And they took certain people. Now, Angie Boshiago's dad worked for the government. So if you're wondering why this guy, why would they choose him? He talks about being chosen as a kid. Right. So his dad was already a high-ranking official within the U.S. government at this time, which is you're talking back in, I want to say, the 70s and the 60s.

And he even traveled through the 80s and things like that. But when he was a kid, it was more around the time of the 60s when he claims this was happening. Yeah, here's Basiago. Is he related to the Bellagio? I don't believe so. Now, today I'm going to focus on my experience is not as a child in Project Pegasus, But when I was at UCLA as an undergrad in the early 1980s, and I was involved, I was basically recalled into government service

as one of the college-aged chrononauts attached to the CIA's jumproom program. There you go. So, a lot there in that one clip. Now, number one, this was created back in the 70s, allegedly. And they used children, according to Boschialgo, in their experiments because they could adapt well. to the, quote, strains of moving between past, present, and future. Now, that's not to say they didn't use adults because they did,

Bashiago's dad being one of them, which we'll get to that story a little while. By the way, he said he would be tortured if he talked about this with those people who didn't need to know, but we have a need to know. We do have a need to know. And just to give you a little more background on him, he's a guy that is actually an attorney, right, in New York, I believe, or in the state of Washington, I think it is. But anyway, he's an attorney. And so he's done a right for himself.

It's not like he's just some guy looking for money. It's not some Joe Schmo. Right, exactly. And by the way, they've had to develop a whole new wing of the legal jurisprudence common law of the world to associate with aliens that are on Earth because how would you sue an alien in regular court? Yeah. So that's a whole different subject too. I don't know. But so this is a guy again that's, you know, he's pretty high-powered attorney.

and he actually ran for president in the 2016 election. I didn't know that. Yes, he did. And so he was actually asked about... Well, he already knew President Obama. Well, and we're going to get to that as well. Because he was actually asked about Trump and Clinton, who, of course, he was running against in 2016,

when Trump won in 16. And he says that his dad told him that there was no mention of Hillary Clinton becoming president in the future. future, but he did remember hearing his dad talk about Trump being president in the future. Really? Yes. Oh, that's so interesting. Yes.

So it's very odd stuff. So he did get into some politics and was trying to run for president on this platform that he wanted to disclose the truth to the American public about all of these different things that we've been doing with time travel and space travel and alien civilizations. And they're still counting the ballots for him? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Things didn't go well for all, Andrew, they're on the presidential side.

But he does have a proud moment of his time in this whole thing, especially when he was on Mars. My proudest moment on Mars was when I walked out of the jumproom facility called the Corkster because of its conical or a conch shell of shape. And I saw a great U.T, one of the Martian human eyes that looks like a great U.T up on the roof of observing us. And because of our training at Daines where we were taught how to yell something kind of an abbreviated way, to give a fellow team member understanding of what you just encountered, I yelled court, bread, a grave, on the roof, observing us. That was my proudest operational moment, because it was exactly what we've been instructed in terms of this staccato kind of informing of your teamings.

Because if you did to do that, you might suddenly find one of them being swept away by the dinosaur-like creature 12 to 16 feet tall. Oh, that's the Pleziasaurus. He's talking about the dinosaur-like creature, which, Again, you can see the picture on 850 WFT on the UAP blog. Yes. Hey guys, so before we get back into the conversation, I just want to talk about something that affects all of us, and it's scary, starting something new, right?

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You know? And that lends to his credibility. Right. Well, I guess, again, that's up to you. But this is something that, you know, you're talking about Project Pegasus. He's talking about Chrononauts. I'll explain that a little bit more, too. Look, crazy man on the radio.

He's talking about Project Pegasus, which we mentioned, was supposedly something that started in the 70s from DARPA. Now, DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. And they were supposedly the ones who created this experiment called Project Pegasus. and the whole point of it was to work on teleportation and time travel. So they basically look for kids between the ages of 7 and 12 to participate in this. And then, you know, you stay in it, I guess, as you get older as time goes on. Yeah, he talks about, this is attorney Andrew Basiago, and he's claiming a secret government program called Project Pegasus sent him back in time to like Gettysburg in 1863 where he was photographed. that. Do we have a picture of him in Gettysburg that we can put up?

It's funny. You say that, Karen. Yes, we do. Yay. Actually, you should see it on the cover photos. So when you go to 850 WFTL.com and search for the UAP blog, you'll see this picture that Andrew Bacciago talks about when he went back to Gettysburg. He says he's the boy dressed in the union clothes. He called himself a bugle boy. And they sent him back to Gettysburg, basically to observe President Lincoln's address. So when you, pardon me, when you time travel, do you look the same as you do now, then? Well, actually, it's funny you say that. So he explains at different points where, because he says he went to Gettysburg five or six times.

Oh. It's his claim. And he actually ran into himself multiple times, he says. So. Pardon me. And he said they sent his dad there as well. And he didn't know his dad was coming. And when he asked his dad, like, hey, what are you doing here?

His dad had to kind of like play, you know, coy about it and be like, Oh, I don't know who you are. This is like Marty from Back to the Future who almost... It's insane. Yeah. Prevented himself from being born. Yeah, this stuff is crazy. Right.

So I don't know. I guess it's not like how Doc says in Back to the Future where he'll create a rip and, you know, time, space fabric and destroy the whole universe. Well, he explains time loops here. I was officially brought in in the fall of 1969. I was involved in different forms of time travel until the end of the summer of 1972 when I was near an age 11. And during those four years, I had four hidden summers in New Mexico as a result of teleporting there, spending time there, involved in secret project activities, and then teleporting back to New Jersey, arriving on the afternoon of the day I had originally left.

So the timeline here is somewhat convoluted because they were using time loops to create places where we would do secret work for the Defense Department and then collapse those time loops by having us teleport back to the day we were. left on the East Coast. It's, look, I know, I know, okay? I'm going to, I'm going to teleport back an hour this weekend. Oh, are you? Oh, that's right. Yes, the fallback. That's true. It's, look, it sounds wild. It sounds kooky. I understand that, and it sounds a little bit hard to follow, even, but you're talking about a guy that, why lie about this stuff? I guess,

I mean, just for notoriety to sell books. I mean, sure, you can profit off of it. You know, I think he believes it. It sure sounds like he does. It's possible that he is delusional. And maybe as a kid, he thought he was teleporting back and forth. And he has all these memories. I don't know. Or maybe he really did.

But he also claims that then, at that time, a 19-year-old Barack Obama who went by the name of Barry Sartoro. Yes. Was with him. I would also note that we're living in a time in one of my fellow jumpers in the Mars jumpers, program of the early 1980s. A same age appeared by the name of Barack Obama, who's currently clearly president of the United States. Now, obviously, this is an older clip.

Yeah. So he's talking about, okay, again, bear with us here. So this guy, let's recap, shall we? Because this is such been a heavy subject. So he's on Mars with Barry? He's on Mars with Barack Obama, who was Barry Sotero at that time. You remember he's meeting him, says he was. was a nice kid and things like that, and they were on Mars together, basically in these bunkers,

in these barracks, so to speak, to, you know, do different experiments. Was Matt Damon there growing potatoes? He may or may not have. He didn't mention. I'm not sure. The Martian. Yes. So this is what he describes.

Again, it sounds crazy, but this is what he describes. And he says, again, just to recap, DARPA, one of the defense agencies, creates Project Pegasus in the late 60s, early 70s. He becomes part of it. They look for kids 7 to 12 because they can handle the streams of time travel better, I suppose. I see, yes. And then from there they send him to Gettysburg. They send him to all these different places. He even describes going to Ford's theater on multiple occasions.

Oh, with Lincoln. On the night that Lincoln was shot to witness the assassination. So these are all things that, according to him, the government, DARPA agency, was using teleportation and time travel to basically gain knowledge of the past, present, and future. He said he was a part of a group of 10 young adults, including Obama in the Mars training class at some California college. How do you say that? Siskiy-Yus-Coos. Something like that.

Yeah, in 1980. And they were chosen to travel to Mars via top secret teleportation jump room. And by the way, he also says that for some odd reason, nobody reported that Obama was part of it. And we don't know really anything about him as a result of the ceiling of his records. and despite the hundreds of radio interviews I've done and the numerous public appearances, there has been no mainstream journalistic attention

focused on President Obama's service in the jump room program. Again, I know this sounds crazy, but this guy has been, Karen, I'm telling you, he's been claiming this stuff since 2004. He ran for president. He did. Why isn't no one covering him?

Well, that's why we are. Exactly. Leave it up to us, the crack team of Karen Curtis and Stephen D. Deaner on UAP. That's what we're here for. But this is a guy, again, who has been claiming these stories, unchanged details, for 17 years going on now. Describe the teleporter that they used.

I mean, so they didn't just beam up like on Star Trek. They used an actual physical elliptical type thing. Yes, I'm glad you said that. So going back to Tesla, basically what they're saying here is when they found Tesla's papers in 1943 in January of 1943 after his death, they again used the derived it from his papers when he created this technology. So the teleporter consisted of two gray elliptical booms, they call it, about eight feet tall. So it's like in the fly with Jeff Goldblum? Yeah, kind of. If you think about the famous picture of Tesla sitting in between the giant static towers where he's like sitting

in the chair with his legs crossed, you can think about something like that. Okay. And so they're eight feet tall and they're separate. by about 10 feet. So between those, there's a shimmering curtain, as Bacago describes it, of what Tesla called radiant energy. Oh, cool. Was being broadcast between these two elliptical booms. Now, Bacciago says that radiant energy is a form of energy that Tesla discovered and that

it's latent and pervasive in the universe and has among its properties the capacity to bend time space. So that's interesting. It's not dark matter, though. No. So this is something, you know how again, back to the future, the flux capacitor is what makes time travel possible. In this case, it's radiant energy that makes time travel possible because it allows you to bend time space. According, I guess, the Tesla's papers that people never got to see because they were confiscated after his death. So again, this is all depending on what you want to believe. But this is the guy who goes into great detail and has gone into this detail. This is an important note to mention. Has kept this detail for 17. years. These stories are unchanged. So, you know, he claims that these claims are supported by Alfred Weber. He's a lawyer also. Also a lawyer. That specializes in exo politics or political implications surrounding an extraterrestrial presence on Earth, as I was talking about before.

So that's kind of interesting. The new legal implications, not covered by common law or current jurisprudence. There's actually people that are specializing in this. Yeah, and this guy says, Alfred Weber says that teleportation and time travel have been around for 40 years, which kind of matches with the time frame here, even going back 50 years in the time frame we're talking about. But he says that they're hoarded by the Defense Department instead of being used to transfer, you know, goods and services. How great would it be?

Look, look at the supply stuff that we're going through right now. The crisis would be solved. How about that? How nice would that be to just be able to teleport all these, you know, supplies and goods throughout the country and throughout the world instead of having, you know, ships jammed up a cargo hold. It seems like if this is all true, they just don't want us to succeed, you know, because we would be able to have, as Tesla projected, free energy. Right. And we would be able to move stuff around. Who was the guy that we had? We talked about before he was teleporting

all around to these different bases. That's right. So I think you're thinking about Valiant Thor. No, not him. The other guy with the missing fingers. Oh, our buddy, Philip Schneider. Yes. Yes. Yes. And so we've talked about this different type of stuff before. If you wanted to hear, learn about Philip Schneider, you can go back to one of the, I think within the first five or six episodes is the Dulce Base Wars. Again, one of the best episodes in my book that we've ever done. My favorite. And then, of course, the Valley and Thor, that was a few weeks ago.

When I was supposedly an alien who was working the Pentagon that tried to give the technology to the U.S. government into the world that would make the world a better place and help to bring about world peace. Supposedly, they're like, no, we're good because we want to keep power in our hands. So look, these are all things that kind of tie together in past episodes that we've done. And that's the thing that I find intriguing about this, Karen. We've done all these different subjects, different people, different time periods, different stories. But they all have the same theme. They all come back to the same thing, right?

Philip Schneider. They have a common thread. Yes. Philip Schneider with the Dulce Bayes talk about how there's all this advanced technology that government doesn't want us to know about. Then you talk about Vali and Thor, try to give technology to the world. world says he's from Venus and they don't want all this technology. Intervenous inside.

That's right. Inside Venus. Inside Venus. Yes. Venetian, as they call them. And then you have this story here with Andrew Bashiago talking about and his buddy Alfred Weber, how they've had this technology for 40, 50 years, but they don't want to give it out to the public because the defense department uses it for their own purposes.

So different stories, different time periods, different people, same type of theme. Government wants to keep control. and it just, I hope it's not true. Like this stuff, this story is so interesting and so intriguing to me, but in the back of my head, I'm thinking to myself, honestly, there's a part of me that doesn't want this to be true because if it is, that means this technology is out there and no one's getting to use it for their own good throughout the world.

You know, people believe that there's actually cures for cancer already. There's all kinds of these types of conspiracy theories that we've had the power all along to do all these things. Now, again, though, maybe it would be used for evil. I mean, could you imagine just some guy in the street being able to teleport and try to change history somewhere or change the future? If we could all teleport, it'd be a mess. Oh, my gosh. Be running into each other in time space.

If we're running into ourselves, each other, like me, running into me, no. We'd be texting and teleporting. Oh, no. It would be mess. Maybe we're better off not having this stuff. I don't know. But it is. It's fascinating, isn't it?

I mean, to think about these stories, these claims that Baciago made. that these programs through DARPA, Project Pegasus, have been around for 40, 50 years where they're teleporting. Well, see, there's just no way to police it. No. And this guy with his exo-politics, I mean, there's just no law that can help you to control all of this. I mean, he's talking about going to Gettysburg.

Again, he says, he has the picture and says it's him as a child. Now, whether or not we have no way to know that's true. I have a picture with Elvis. Yeah, I mean, we don't know if that's true. From last week. The picture is on 850wfdl.com on the UAPB blog. You can see it. as well as the plesiosaurus, that he says is a creature on Mars.

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he's just a really good liar. I don't know. Maybe he's a really good story. storyteller. But on the other hand, maybe he's telling the truth. Well, yeah, sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. That's true. And the people that know the truth are like, ah, let him talk about it. He sounds like a complete idiot. But it could be true. No, you're right.

You're right. And that's maybe one way of them covering up and saying, just let him talk about it like you said, because no one's going to believe it anyway. So if you wonder why, well, how is he being able to talk about this stuff and he's still alive? Well, because he sounds like a kook. I mean, you're listening along with us. You're thinking the same thing we are. This guy sounds like a crazy person. He does.

He does. But maybe he's telling the truth. And that's why we talk about it because we let you decide. There was one other story actually, Karen. And President Obama didn't return my call. Oh, yeah. And I tried to verify the story. Yes, we did try to get with him about this.

There was one other story that I wanted to tell you about with him. Oh, please do tell. Oh, I will. So there's actually a story that he tells. And I heard the interview. We didn't get sound of this one, so I'll just kind of impart the knowledge to you. He tells a story that. he was in a room

and they showed him a film now before I tell the whole story let me give a little backstory to the story he explains the word chrononaut now we've heard the word chrononon a couple times during the episode he said it during one of his lectures that we were playing earlier just like a time astronaut

yeah exactly and what they do there's two different forms of time travel that Basiagra refers to the first one is actually going to the location using radiant energy from the Tesla technology and bending time and space and going to that location. The second form is using this technology to essentially make a hologram of the past or make a hologram of where you're teleporting to. He describes being on Mars as more of a hologram than actually being on Mars itself by using the technology that they have.

So in this case, in the story that he tells about Jesus' crucifixion, now, to give some background on Basiago himself, he was raised Catholic, but then fell away from Catholicism. So he's kind of like, you know, in between, he wasn't trying to preach or anything like that or convert anybody. He saw Christ. He, that's what he claims. So he says they used the technology of more of a hologram instead of being at the actual crucifixion. site in Jerusalem, they used the hologram technology to show and essentially record the crucifixion of Jesus. And he says he saw the video, which again, as fantastic and wild as it sounds,

he says he saw the video of the crucifixion with his father and one of their friends. And they were basically given this video, this knowledge of watching this. And he describes it. As the passion of the Christ. Yeah, he describes watching Jesus. on the cross with the crown of thorns. He said he described the crown of thorns as looking almost like a motorcycle helmet in its size and how it like rested on his head. He described Jesus being punctured with the lance. All the things you hear are from the Gospels.

He describes seeing it in this, I guess, time travel film, so to speak. And he mentions, you know, the two people behind Jesus, you know, again from the Gospels, the thieves who were crucified with Jesus at that time. and he describes seeing all this and the sky's going dark everything you hear about in the Gospels he talked about seen in this time travel film

and then he even talked about that there was a resurrection film that he did not see but that they did have footage through time travel through this technology of Jesus so these stories are incredible I wish we did an episode

on all the weird kind of stone structures around the world. Yes. I wish he had teleported himself back to figure out how they did Puma Puckoo and Right. And all those things we talked about. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. Go Beckley-Tepa. How did they do all that? That would be nice to know, right? Yeah. But again, this is something, it's, what's intrigued me and what has intrigued me over the years about this story is, again, of course, the idea of time travel that intrigues all of us.

The idea of teleportation going to Mars and seeing different creatures and seeing aliens and the fact that he claims that he was there with Barack Obama as a young teen. Well, even Einstein and also, to some extent, the father of time, Hawking, believe everything is about time. Right. And Einstein has or had said, anyway, in his theories, that he believed that time travel was possible, maybe through a wormhole, whatever it might be.

And he actually went as far. I mean, if you remember the studies of Einstein, where he theorized, and it was just proven to be true within the past decade, I think, that if you travel at light speed, then time moves differently for you. And you don't age. Right. The faster you go, the less you age. The less you age, which goes back to the movie Interstellar with, you know, that crazy

Matthew McConaughey movie, Christopher Nolan directed, where I won't get that whole, that movie was insane. But it's that same theory, which that theory has been proven to be true. So that is time traveled to a certain extent, not to what, you know, Vasiago was talking about, which is actually going to a certain time period, where he claims being at the Gettysburg Address and the Ford assassination of Lincoln and all these different things that he's claimed to be at, to be a part of, and see in person. And of course, being teleported to Mars, or at least a hologram of Mars and being at the bases. And he's talked about these, you know, these CIA

headquarters, these secret locations where they have these, quote, jump rooms. These are all details, again. Maybe he's just a really smart fiction. writer and he's been able to keep these stories in check and not deviate from his details over the past 17 years. But that's hard to do. I mean, at some point, you would think over the 17 years time span that he's been claiming these things to be true that you would forget some detail or omit something or change something by accident.

I don't think, I think he believes what happens. So therefore, he's lived it somehow in his brain, whether or not it was imagined or not. But he's got the memory. Yeah. No, you're right. Because if you watch a video of him, and maybe, I don't know, I mean, maybe we'll have up the video on the UAP blog. Because maybe, I mean, you know, maybe I will do that because you can be a judge for yourself. When I, I always like to watch people on video to kind of get a feel of their body language, to see how they're structuring their sentences, to look at their eyes. Because you can look at somebody's eyes and tell if they're recalling something as they're talking. You're right. You know, like you're talking to your friend and they're telling you, oh, man, I got to tell you this story. This happened last. night and when someone's telling you the story they're usually looking away they look down they look up because they're recalling in their mind well that's what makes an actor good if they can make it seem like their lines or something they're recalling right and not just looking off to the

side to cue cards yeah exactly exactly so you know that happens a lot when we tell stories thinking about yourself when you tell a story you're usually closing your eyes to think about it or you're looking down because you're you're visualizing as you're speaking you have the images in your mind and recalling it as you're talking so And I kind of noticed that type of body language from Bashiago as he spoke. So you be the judge. I'll have the video up on the blog as well that you can check it on 850wfTO.com. And look, that's all we ever do here.

You be the judge. We give you the stories. We give you the details. And you be the judge on whether or not this is something that is true or not. Or could be true anyway. Yeah, I mean, here he is just to remind you. Here's this image. We have one of the Martian life forms that I call Plesias soldiers.

similar to the Pleziosaurus that were right on this planet before the KT extinction event. There you go. So the Pleasiosaurus is also on the blog. Photographic evidence. That's what he says. So you can check all that on 8050WFTL.com. And you've probably noticed that you might be thinking to yourself, wow, they spent a lot of time in this one story. Well, there's a reason for that.

This thing was so loaded. Normally, if you've heard any of our other previous episodes, you would know that we'd normally cover about three different stories. And today we realize this story is just completely loaded with unbelievable details that we wanted to devote the entire episode to this one thing. And we're actually going to do that again next week. Yes. Because originally what we wanted to do was include the story of a man named Randy Kramer.

He's an American. He spent 17 years deployed on Mars. That's what he says. And his stories as well are just. Well, he was part of the Mars Defense Force. Oh, well, excuse me, yes. And he talks about all that, how he was part of this space defense system and 17 years, teleportation, fought against aliens, peace treaties, just wild, wild stories. He flew anti-gravity vehicles throughout the solar system, Stephen, as part of the Earth Defense Force.

How could it be so disrespectful? So now we're going to look at next week devoting the entire episode to Randy Kramer, because just like Angie Bob, It deserves its own episode because there's so many wild, crazy details that you'll only get here on UAP. Absolutely. I can't wait. Where do you get this stuff? I'll tell you, Karen, I have been looking. There are some things, there are some subjects and stories that I've been sitting on that I could not wait to get to.

Dulce Bayes being one of them back in, I think, episode five or six when we did it. This, what we just did today and what we can do next week are two of the things that I could not wait to do these episodes at, some point. So finally, I'm so happy we're finally at this point. Episode 19 to talk about Andrew Bacciago and his time travel claims and Radiant Energy and Tesla's technology and doing all these crazy things and seeing all these things to now episode 20 next week and talking about Randy Kramer and his wars on Mars. It's incredible stuff. It's very, very exciting. It is. I love being along for the ride with you, my friend, on UAB. But you can do it all again with us next week right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast.

Karen Curtis over there, Stephen Dean, are over here. And make sure to check out all the previous episodes, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Rate us with five extra-trestrial stars. And, of course, check out 850WFTL.com for the UAP blog with all the episodes and pictures of everything we spoke about. And download and subscribe. We would love to have new listeners as well. So tell your friends about us. Yes, that's right.

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