UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 190 Exclusive: Congressman Eric Burlison Reveals "There's Something There"

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

"I can now definitively say that there's something there." Congressman Eric Burlison made this amazing admission regarding UFOs during this enlightening conversation with Stephen Diener. Hear why Eric is now convinced there is something out there that we can't explain. Plus, learn why the UFO topic has now jumped up the priority list for the agencies in DC. All of this and much more during what turned out to be a jam packer conversation on this exclusive episode of UAP...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Summer starts June 22nd, SMC.edu. Welcome back in to UAP. Stephen Dean. We're back with you here on another edition of the Unidentified Alien Podcast, episode number 190, and she never closed her to that magical number of 200. And this one is definitely worthy of the annals of UAP because another great interview here today with Congressman Eric Burleson. I really enjoyed this.

It's short. I would have loved to talk to him for two hours, but to fit into his schedule here today, we only had about 25 minutes. So we made the most of it. And there's a lot of really interesting information in here, very interesting information in here in a short amount of time. I'll get to after the interview, obviously some post-interview thoughts, some of my reactions afterward and some of the things that I wanted to bring up, but didn't have enough time to bring up, but I at least wanted to bring them up in some former fashion, and I'll do that on my own after the interview here with Eric Burlston.

And actually, this is just a couple of quick notes. Number one, it's really nothing, but you might hear this is maybe just my own OCD, but you might hear like a couple of like a hammer sounds or something in the back like someone's doing construction. You might hear some background noise. There was some slight maintenance going on outside Eric's office while we were we were recording this. But it's not that big a deal. I just wanted to point that out in case you heard it and you're wondering what it was. And lastly, real quick, this was actually recorded just a couple of hours ago. It was this morning. And I say that because I don't normally, actually almost never, really almost never,

put out an interview as soon as I'm done with the recording, or I should say I put out an episode as soon as I'm done with the recording of the interview. What I normally like to do is kind of let it marinate in my head for a day, take some notes, go back, listen to everything, and really kind of take it all in, and then come on and do the episode and react to a couple different things. But with this one, I wanted to get it out as quickly as I possibly could. There's a lot of really good information in this that I wanted to put out as soon as possible.

So made that special exception here today. So we'll get into it right now, myself, Congressman Eric Burleson, in this new latest interview here on UAP. Enjoy. Well, happy to have him come back on the show here today and to make some time. Representative Eric Burleson, very appreciative you to come back on here to UAP. Thanks for stopping by today.

Thank you, Stephen. Yeah, absolutely. A lot to go over and not a lot of time to do it in. So we'll see what we can fit in here today. I know you're busy. You've got a full schedule today. First things first, of course, everything going on and with the war and with disclosure on that front and just kind of how all this mixes right now.

There's a lot that you've been involved with even just lately over the past couple of weeks. Going back to last week, even before the war broke out, you had an interesting moment that I want to bring up here with Hillary Clinton in the depositions that you guys had with the Oversight Committee on the Epstein documents. and you went into the UFO question with Hillary. That was a clip that went viral on different fronts. I just want to ask you now here, what was that like for you? Were you satisfied with the way that went?

And her answers on kind of asking about her take on the UFO issue and her view on what's going on now with it. I think I got what I needed to out of that conversation. But look, I mean, mostly the reason why I asked the question is that it had been a very, very long day. She had her defenses up from the moment that she set down. Just as a point of clarity, for example, when she came in, she went directly to her seat,

didn't say anything to anyone. But when Bill Clinton came in, he walked around the room and shaked everybody's hands and asked for everybody's name, that kind of thing. He really tried to charm the room. She did not. She was very angry. And at some points became unhinged in the meeting.

It was a tense day, and it lasted for hours. And then it becomes my turn right towards the very end. And I thought, well, I'm going to ask a pallet cleansing question here and just kind of see if we can't lighten the mood before I do a deep dive into asking her some difficult questions about Epstein. So I knew that we had that we had that commonality that, when it came to the topic of UAPs because she and her campaign, many of her staff made it a campaign issue that she would release the documents should she be elected.

And I wanted to also get a chance to get her on the record saying something nice about Donald Trump for once, right? Because Donald, so I just wanted to know, given that this was a desire of your campaign, how do you feel that Donald Trump has now made the statement that he's going to be released in the files? And so that's why I asked that question. The fact that she later on asked us, and I'm not sure if it was, if it's recorded or on the record, but as I was leaving, standing up and walking away, she asked us about the status of the UAP Disclosure Act, which indicates that she was paying attention to that way. That's a topic of interest to her.

Yeah, and actually I was wondering the same thing as well. That's something I wanted to ask you about. I know that was a project that you were leading. The last time we spoke about this was around the September hearing last year, and that was an effort that you were really charging through was the UAP Disclosure Act, and then it ended up getting kind of torn apart, tear down by behind-the-scenes efforts. Where does that stand now? Six months later after those September hearings last year,

where do we stand on a UAP Disclosure Act? So the fact that we went through a moment where I was scrambling, trying to have conversations with each of the ranking members and the chairman of all of these committees, has at least that groundwork has been made. So now they all, whenever I call them or talk to them about this topic, they can't really say, I don't know what you're talking about. I'll have to talk to my staff.

I think it has given us a step in the right direction. for this next year. So we're now in the time where we can start talking about it with the chairman, reminding them that this is important. And the goal would be to get this into the committee language before it leaves the committee to come to the floor. So basically the groundwork has been laid. You feel like the table is set for it to where you can really kind of maybe like a launching pad kind of take it to the next step here this year. Do you feel like? I do. And if anything, We've had a hard time these last few years figuring out who's killing the language. And I think we're narrowing in on that.

So I think this year, early on trying to get that language in, we will identify if there's any holdouts on this language. As far as who's killing it, I don't want you obviously to have to reveal anything that might show your cards too much. But is it something of a situation where it's representatives on either side of the aisle that or maybe. be connected to different defense contractors that are in their district? Is it something like that? Whereas there's a special interest that's causing this to be killed or is it a different situation? You know, I don't have, I don't have definitive information on that.

But what I, what I have been told is that it's staff, that there are Senate staffers on other committees that don't, you know, that really kind of try to protect their turf. And this is a turf issue. and they do not want to have other committees, you know, being briefed on a topic that they, that they have. So, which is why I think, like, for example, some of the staffers of some of the senators and some of the staffers of the committee staff. So we're, but at the end of the day, I think that we've narrowed it down to that is the problem. And so it's now time to figure out exactly what their problem is. Wow. So we're talking about then, and correct me from wrong here, but it sounds like we're talking about really just like a territorial thing where other staffers and other committees are feeling like you're crossing the line into their territory.

So maybe not even really to do with the issue at hand, but just that, hey, you're entering my territory and I don't like that. That's right. That's exactly right. Wow. That's pretty interesting. And what's really sad is like, especially in the Senate, the staff run the, you know, the inmates run the prison, if you will. the staff run the show. Most of these senators are, you know, one step away from a nursing home. So a lot of them are not paying attention. And they let their staff run the show. Yeah.

And so that's interesting because the theory has always been, right, that while there's something else going on behind the scenes, they're being paid off or they don't want to upset their, you know, their people in their district, whoever it might be, their constituents. But it's really just a territorial thing like, hey, this is my. thing, I don't want you're crossing a line. That's wild. It's something so trite. It is, but it's true. Wow. Well, I'm glad you guys got down to the bottom of that and hopefully, like you said, you can use that as a launching pad now to get over those issues. A couple of the big things that have been going on lately just in this topic I want to bring up here. A couple weeks ago, you and I both reacted along with everybody else when former President Obama said aliens are real and then kind of walked it back a little bit with an statement on

Instagram saying well that's just what I believe based off of you know the size of the universe and so on and so forth not based off of classified briefing I received and then a few days later president Trump says we're going to disclose this stuff directs secretary Heggseth to put out all the files puts out that truth social post that went mega viral and everybody's reacting you and I kind of spoke behind the scenes when that was going on that night so now that kind of the dust has settled on that. As you reflect back on it, was that, how did you feel in that moment when all that was going on? Was it a feeling of vindication even for you and your cohorts in Congress who've been working on this for years now to try to push this forward? Which part on Obama or

President Trump? I guess ultimately President Trump when he put out, hey, let's put these files out there. Yeah, so I'll back up and first begin with the Obama statement. To me, whenever I read, whenever I saw that interview, I inferred that what his experience is is similar to mine, which is that, you know, there's lots of footage that is blurry. The more you get involved in this, you can determine that there's something out there, but we don't really know what it is. And so I think that the president was speaking in that kind of vein. And, but when Trump's, I think that when that upset Trump,

that Obama might get ahead of him on this. You know, I've been requesting from the White House for since Trump has come into office and even before through back channels. Asking for an executive order on disclosure, I really wanted it to happen at the very beginning because he was doing executive orders on JFK files and the MLK files. And you might as well do it on UAPs. The fact that they didn't do it early on meant that we've just, we've been having to try to get that in front of him for the last year and a half, or a year or so. So we, for me, it was fine, it was a great win.

The fact that the staff of the White House texted me as soon as the president's statement came out and said, you know, here we go. indicates that they were that that that that I at least had some kind of they they were at least acknowledging that that I've been requesting this for quite some time are you the only one requesting that by the way or is as Luna is Burchett or others requesting that even some senators hey Mr. President please put out this executive order I'm like what what is the push like for that behind the scenes well I don't know what any I don't know of any senator that's doing that but I do know Anna and Tim they want that. Now, I haven't heard if they've had an actual conversation with the president or the,

or the White House staff. You know, look, you, you only get so much time when you're talking to these people. And often, you don't want to, you don't want to, you really have to prioritize what you want to have said and what, and what your ask is. And so a lot of times people don't want to burn an ask on something like this, but I'm willing to do that. That's great. And I'm sure your phone was blowing up in that moment. I'm sure. On that note, there's been talk from a British filmmaker journalist named Mark Christopher Lee. And I've spoken to him just for a full disclosure here on the show.

I've had conversations with him. He was a guest on the show. And I've had conversations behind the scenes as well where he put out that news that President Trump has a July 8th date set for disclosure. It's the anniversary of Roswell. It happens to be the 79th anniversary this year. He's going to come out and say, here's what's going on. this has been happening. And then on top of that, that there's supposed to be some type of press conference

on May 1st in D.C. from this source that is giving Mark this information. I want to get your thoughts on that because Mark is even coming out lately within the past few hours today, saying that this source is going to have a press conference in D.C. on May 1st, showing proof of extraterrestrial life to put pressure on the president to make that speech on July 8th. Are you hearing any of this behind the scenes? And what are your thoughts on some of these talks? I've heard the rumors about the July 8th just from from chatter on the internet, but I don't know the individuals that you're talking about, the reporter. I'm welcome to talk. I'm, you know, I would be eager to talk to him and try to get as much information as he's willing to give me. But at the end of the day, I don't, I don't know who that person is.

So no, I guess, confirmation or denial as far as what you're hearing that, This may or may not happen. It's just kind of floating out there. Yeah, I can't validate the claim. Okay. No, fair enough. There's another thing that came out, too, actually. I wanted to ask you about this, Eric.

And, of course, you may or may not be able to say whether or not you've seen some of these things. But I want to grab this that I printed out. This is, and credit goes to Ross Colthardt on this. He put this out on Twitter a couple days ago, and I found it very, very intriguing. He put out a quote from, he calls a well-informed source. who has seen UAP videos being withheld by the Department of War. This is what Ross Coldhart says. He says they're accessible on highly classified Sipternet servers.

And according to his source, there's three videos that he speaks about, one of them being a video of a black disc three times the size of an oil platform that was captured speeding underwater near a platform in the Gulf of America. Then there's a video of a B-52 where a disc approaches, it slows down to keep pace of the B-52, so obviously that the disc was going fast, and then it zips off at the end, all while the NHI are looking out of the windows,

or if we call them windows. And then there's a third video described by this source, according to Ross Colthardt that says an orb playing cat and mouse, if you will, with a Reaper drone at 30,000 feet. It forces it to go evasive, it keeps pace with it, it zips around on the right wing,

and then zips off, and all of this is in 4K or better, as told to me by my source, according to Ross, who says this person is extremely well cleared and someone who he trusts. Have you heard about those videos or even seen anything like that? I haven't seen those videos, but what I can say is that I am increasingly being briefed. There is activity that is, it seems to be accelerating, and that, and they do. some of this phenomenon that we do not understand what it is and don't know the physics that it's operating, which is startling to me that we don't. And it is extremely worrisome that we can't even identify what the type of technology is, even these vehicles. And that they're becoming

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that I would have never seen in any other context. Really? How so? Like what sticks out to you when you see that? The way in which they move does not seem to be under conventional propulsion. They, it's, they're clearly not a drone. It just, it almost looks like a ball of plasma that is, that is controlled. And so that's, I don't know what kind of, what creates that, what kind of technology can do that. Or is behind that, you know, I came into this topic thinking that it probably wasn't any, there, there, I can now definitively say that there's something there.

Now I still cannot confirm if it's us or China, Russia, or the other, but we definitely know that there's something there. And I think whenever I'm talking to the intelligence community and they tell me that it's not us, at least not note, it could be a private U.S. contractor. but they are certain that we're not aware of it in the military or in the government. Wow. Wow. I know you have plans to kind of go out in venture, if you will, to see some of these different sites where reportedly some of these crash retrievals or even biologics might be stored.

What do you expect from that? And what are you trying to, I guess, accomplish by going to these places? expect to see actual hard physical proof when you when you go to these sites that's that's certainly what my goal is um i i fully expect it's that many of these sites there um there there isn't going to be material there but what i can't for example if i went to a site which i did go to one recently um and i'm going to wait until i visited all of them before i because i don't want to ruin my opportunity to visit the other sites. What I was looking for, I had information that there was no material there, but there's enough evidence of the infrastructure on the property to indicate that there was,

you know, what I was trying to do is prove or find any kind of evidence or proof of the narrative. And so if I could prove, for example, that there was a building that was created for the purpose of receiving a transfer of goods, then at least if the building exists, then I can identify and prove that there may be some validity to that story. And so that's the kind of investigation. You know what I'm saying? Even if I don't find the smoking gun, if they don't like lift a curtain and there's, there it is, there's still ways to kind of at least try to figure out, is there any truth to what's been reported? Right, right. Are you going alone or have other congressmen or women going with you?

So I've requested for them to, because I have a lot of colleagues that want to go with me. Yeah. And so I've asked, you know, the Department of War if they will, you know, if they'll allow these other members. This first one, they did not want anybody else to go because they wanted to just kind of test the proof of concept and see logistically how they would pull this off. It appears like this is not done very often. I mean, they kind of, this is not, this is very unusual to take a congressman, you know, behind the scenes. And so I'm excited to do it and I'm going to be respectful of this and the opportunity that I've been given and try and take advantage of it the most I can. Yeah, that's amazing.

That's at the end of the month you have a plan for, right? At the end of March? We've already had one visit. We'll continue to have others. Okay. So in the near future, I guess. Yes. Do you plan on going to see the UFO too big to move?

I know that's been a big point of contention lately. Right. So obviously I've heard the reports, seeing the reports that Dr. Stephen Greer has made public. And that's why I can talk about this. I've also had similar reports from people inside of a secure setting. Now, what I can say is that what I have heard is that that site that everyone shows photos of, it's a building that when you look from above,

it looks like a perfect circle. that is not that is ironically that's I mean it's it's an oddly shaped building but it's not the building that uh that that that is that we're talking about interesting um I know you're playing coy there a little bit Eric but that's okay I understand and I have to try to throw these things out there to see what we can talk about but I totally understand last thing real quick because this popped into my head is there something obviously things that you've spoken about or seen in a classified setting that you can't mention. But are there things with this topic,

things that you've seen over the past couple of years have been told that in your own quiet moments, in your own life, where you just sit down and kind of unwind for the day and just think like, wow, I was actually told that or wow, I actually saw that. Do you have any of those reflective moments to yourself? You know, recently I had one of those moments

where I, you know, walked away from a briefing and thought, what I have seen and heard, whether it's us, you know, or I'm sorry, whether it's China or some private contractor or its other, it is terrifying that we may not have that kind of technology and capability. So to me, the fact that there is technology that is out there, it's proven, it's been well documented, it's kind of messing with us, and we do not have a capability of, we do not have that kind of capability is what is terrifying to me. Very poignant. Eric Burleson, Representative, thank you so much for doing this.

Hopefully we can catch up again soon. I know this is an ever-evolving topic, and especially as you continue to investigate it on your own and go to these sites. I love to have you back on in the future as we go on here. Before I leave, I just wanted to say that what I can tell you is that while the president has it issued an executive order, whenever I've been meeting with, whether it's people within the Department of War or with the intelligence community, Every one of these agencies has been addressing this topic with very limited resources because it's not a priority, right? It has, it is, in fact, one of the conversations I had, they said, look, we have a lot of irons in the fire.

We have a lot of priorities. This is probably ranking in the, you know, if we have 600 priorities, this is number 598. Wow. Now, the president's comment, even though it was just a truth, has empowered these agents. to push this as a priority all the way to the top. And so it's now one of the top priorities. They're now going to be dedicating more time, resources and attention to this topic that I think have been long overdue. And it's taken a president to kind of to basically give that direction.

And I think that him just truiting it, they were ready, willing, and able to make it a priority. They just knew that they couldn't. if it wasn't, right? So now these agencies, I think, they've been given the green light and they're ready to go. So I think that we're going to be seeing a lot of movement in the next few months and years. Wow.

That's a great point. It's an important point in this. I'm glad you threw that in here at the end. Like I said, look forward to doing this again. So Eric Burleson, thanks so much for coming on here to UAP and we'll talk again soon. Thank you. Thanks.

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I mean, there was a lot of things that stood out to me. But first off, where he said, I am convinced that there is something out there that we don't fully understand. To kind of hear it out that, I don't know, I guess you can say admission how Eric has kind of come full circle. And he painted the picture himself. you know how he thought about this, how he looked at this situation, the UAP situation when he first came into it, versus now after experiencing everything he's experienced, the hearings, the briefings, you know, the skiffs and the videos and everything he's been told and shown, now you heard him say, I mean, there's something there and we don't know what that is,

and that is something that is disturbing to him. And I mean, we can't take that lightly, right? I mean, that's coming from a sitting congressman. That is something that should be highlighted. is something that that should be really taken in and digested by everyone. That's a very big statement for Eric to say that as a sitting congressman. So I'm honored that we were able to put that out here today on UAP. I always, always appreciate Eric's openness and candidness.

He's been like that since day one, ever since I started speaking with him here on the show. And behind the scenes as well, speaking with him, he's always been candid. He's always been open. And I can't thank him enough for that because, as we know, it's not always like that. Quite frankly, it's rarely like that when it comes to this topic. And he will give any information that he legally can, obviously without handing over something classified that he learned.

So I'll always appreciate that from Eric because it's for all of us. It's not just for here on UAP. That's a service to everybody who is interested in this topic. It's a service to everyone who may not even find this topic interesting. But still, to put that information out there, it's for humanity, quite frankly, not to kind of like wax poetic here, but it's a really big deal for humanity to try to further this conversation and to further this discussion. And Eric is a big part of that. And I'm honored that we're able to do that here on this show and that I can bring that to you.

A couple of things also just the kind of highlight that I found were noteworthy. Those visits, right? We've seen Eric talk about that over the past week or so that he's going to take these visits. and actually I'm glad he mentioned it. He already has, I don't think I've ever put it out there because I was asked not to, but a few months ago, actually probably longer than that, it's probably like six, seven, eight months ago. I did learn that Eric had already made a visit to a, I guess, let's call it a facility

that was supposedly showing evidence of extraterrestrial life or had evidence of reverse engineering. He's already been to one. and he mentioned that, which I'm glad he did, because I haven't been able to say anything about that, even though I knew about it. I can't say where it was because he hasn't said where it was, but I'm glad that he at least did mention

that he has been to one and he's looking to go to more. So that was big and we'll learn more. Once he kind of has these things checked off his list, then we can finally maybe dig into this a little bit more as far as where he went and the information that he found out of things that were there before, maybe before something was moved or maybe something that he actually did come across while on one of these visits. But it's really fascinating to hear that, you know, congressmen don't get approved to do these

things very often. And he's getting direct approval from the Department of War, of course, formerly Department of Defense to go and see one of these facilities. And this will be the second one that he goes to, which again, I'm glad he put out there. The UFO too big to move. we'll see what comes to that. Obviously, a lot of talk about that. I don't really have much more to add to that conversation because we don't know where it is.

The rumors are South Korea, but then he says the picture that we've always seen isn't the ones. Maybe it's in Utah. Maybe it's in Arizona. I don't know. You don't know. But maybe we'll find out more in the future. I'm glad I got to ask about the deposition with Hillary Clinton because I just, I love that he threw that question out there. So it was cool to kind of get the behind the scenes on how that went down and what

that room is like. Obviously, you heard him answer about whether or not the Trump disclosure speech will happen or that May 1st speech will happen with the source that, you know, this unnamed source is putting the information out there to Mark Christopher Lee. And Eric, you know, really wasn't short to make of it. He's kind of hearing the same things that we are. So I suppose we're all going to find out together, but I wanted to ask him about that to see if we can get any more information on it.

But I guess, you know, again, that's one thing that we just continue to have to wait and see. really interesting to hear him comment on those reports from Ross Colthardt because that's where I think we got one of the big clips of this episode, just in my opinion. Again, a lot was in there. But the one that really, if I had to choose one, that stood out to me personally, was around the middle of this episode where he spoke about in response to those reports from Ross Coldhart about these classified videos that show clearly NHI, that show clearly, you know, UFOs. being piloted by NHI, these videos that are on classified, you know, DOD servers, the SIPRNet, as they call it, one of the classified servers, that these things are out there. And for Eric to say, you know, he hasn't specifically seen those, but that's where we got that, you know, statement of, hey, look, I've learned a lot.

And what really gets me is that there is something going on and we don't know what it is. And I really thought, to me, that was the biggest part of this conversation. That was my biggest takeaway was to hear that from Eric. And maybe, you know, you took something else away, and that's perfectly fine because there was a lot in here. Actually, the second thing that really stood out to me was, you know, we asked about, or I asked about the whistleblower protection. And, well, actually, I didn't get to bring that up. That was one thing I wanted to bring up was whistleblower protection specifically. But I wasn't able to get into that.

We ran out of time. But we did get into the Disclosure Act because he brought that. up when it came to what Hillary Clinton was asking them about and it kind of carried over to the very end, what you just heard from Eric, where he said, you know, that truth social posts from Trump, the famous one of course talking about we wanted to declassify everything with UFOs, he, I thought it was so intriguing to hear him talk about how that has pushed this priority or it has pushed this conversation up on the priority list. You know, we've always kind of suspected that this was low on the list for the insiders and

Washington and for these agencies, as he said, you know, stating that they've told him this is number 599 on a list of 600 priorities. But now, since the president did put that on on that true social post, and as you heard Eric say, it may not have been an executive order that he's signed in the Oval Office, but it was significant because just with that one social media post, it pushed this up on the priority list to near the top. Now, of course, yes, there is a war going on, and that is inexcapable, and that is obviously number one on anybody's priority right now in D.C. and within the administration and all the agencies. But once that slows down and once that dies down and ends, hopefully sometime soon, then since this is higher on the priority list, I think this will be revisited once again.

And hopefully we'll get back to that momentum that we had just about two or three weeks ago before the war began. and we can get back to this momentum that was being built towards disclosure through the administration and what they may or may not say. So I really, that was a big takeaway for me to hear that at the end from Eric to say that from what he's being told behind the scenes, this is now a top priority within the agencies. And that's a big deal. Again, because once we're able to move on from the current situation, the current war, then they'll be able to get back to this.

And I think that was really encouraging for me. to hear and I think that was a really big thing to put out there. So those were the main things that stuck out to me. I'm sure I'm forgetting something and if there are other things that stuck out to you, then make sure to tell me. And you know, I'm always open through email, S-Diener-U-A-P at gmail.com, S-D-I-E-N-R-U-A-P at gmail.com

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But the point of me saying this at UA Podcast 850 on those channels and on YouTube, of course, is that if there was something else that stuck out to you, then feel free to reach me. I'm always there and I always answer. and so I mean feel free to give any feedback on that or anything else really that has to do with this topic because I'll answer everything that you put out there even if it's about your own story that you want to talk about but some of the other things that I didn't get to mention that I really wanted to but I ran out of time and I do want to throw a couple of these things out here today because they're worth discussing There's a moment when things start to feel uncertain, not urgent, just a quiet question in the background.

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They're protected by the Department of the Interior. I wanted to bring that up to Eric. Didn't get to maybe another time, but that's something that I want to look into more myself to find out, is it possible? Because I've always thought it's very possible, but is it possible that there really are portals to where? I have no idea.

But portals to maybe, you know, other dimensions or something I don't know, other spots on the earth, that these things may actually exist in this country, other parts of the earth, and the ones in this country are being protected and guarded heavily by the Department of Interior, maybe along with some other three-letter agencies. Your guess is as good as mine. I thought it was super interesting to hear that report. I didn't get to bring that up to Eric.

And one of the other things that's really caught my eye over the past week or so that I just find really suspicious. and I actually kind of kick myself that I didn't get to ask this. But it's about some of these suspicious activities, if you will. The Caltech astronomer and scientist who was killed, I mean, straight up murdered on his front porch. And this guy lived in the middle of nowhere out in, you know, the deserts of California. Carl Gilmer from Caltech just killed in cold blood. and we don't really know why.

Unless I missed some details, please let me know if I missed any details of this. If there's an explanation and I missed it, by all means let me know, then that's on me. But I haven't seen any hard details as to why this Caltech scientist, astronomer, was murdered in cold blood at his home. He was investigating UFOs. He was investigating outer space objects.

This is a guy who worked in, I'm sure, some type of different, you know, programs. That's just my assumption. I don't know that for sure. But someone of his stature, I would assume, maybe it's a responsibility to do that, but I would assume that he probably came across some different programs or maybe he was brought in to different programs somewhere along the way.

I don't know what type of foul play this was. I can't make any accusations that he was killed because of UFO secrets or secrets that any type of secrets that the government didn't want getting out that maybe he was going to blow the whistle on. That's my first inclination. But I can't make that accusation. I don't know. All I can say is that it's very suspicious, given who he is, what he was into, and the circumstances of his death.

It's highly suspicious. And until there's an explanation for it, that makes sense to me, then it's going to remain suspicious. And it kind of just went away. And I wanted to bring that up to Eric. I didn't get to. The other one I wanted to bring up was, again, very suspicious. Retired Major General Neil McChastland. Major General Neer McCasteland is a guy who essentially is a head honcho.

He worked at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He was in supposedly the programs regarding UFOs. Supposedly one of the guys with knowledge of a lot of secrets. Now, he went missing this past week under a silver alert because it's reported that he has early onset dementia. That said, there's Facebook posts from him from last year where he's climbing mountains, and he looks perfectly fine. Now, that's not to say that early onset dementia can't quickly and rapidly evolve. It can. And maybe, you know, unfortunately, this is a case of a medical emergency and he got lost somewhere.

That's very sad if that's the case. I hope and pray that he's found safely for his sake and for his family's sake. But there's still no word on where he is and where he went. And I hope he's found because this really could just be a case. and with a very easy prosaic explanation of a, you know, an older man with early onset dementia who got lost and got confused. Maybe that's the case here. But we have to at least, at the very least, bring up the possibility that that's not the case,

that this does have something to do with his past working in the program, the years of experience that he had working at, you know, these top secret situations at some of these major, basis throughout the country. Who knows what he was involved in with the UFO program? But the fact that someone like this can just go up and missing without a trace, you got to at least wonder about why and what happened to retired Major General Neil McCastland. It's concerning. It's very concerning.

I wanted to bring that up to Eric. Didn't get to, but maybe in the future. And maybe at that point, next time I get to talk to Eric, we'll have answers on both of these things that I brought up. Right now we don't have answers, and I hope we do get them because it just, it looks really sketchy on the surface. I'm all for there being absolutely prosaic, easy explanations here on both of these cases I brought up. All for it. I'm not saying that there can't be, very possibly could be. They just haven't been reported.

So, of course, we start to kind of wonder ourselves, is it one of these other things? Is it something nefarious? I certainly hope not. but it's unsettling. There's no way around it. Before I go, I wanted to bring up something to that I brought up to Eric afterwards. I'm putting this out in the public and normally wouldn't put something like this out in the public. But I want to put it out there in order to spread the word on it and hopefully catch the interest of those involved and make this happen.

I asked Eric after we were done off camera if he would be open to. me coming to interview him in person in D.C. at his offices on Capitol Hill, along with some of the other members of Congress that are involved with this, such as Representative Luna, Representative Burchett, Representative Moskowitz, Representative Mace, and anybody else who wants to be involved. So I just threw out some names to him, and his answer to me was he is absolutely for it. In fact, the term he used was, you're greenlit on my end. he said, but I can't guarantee what everybody else wants to do.

So the onus is on me, and I'm putting this out there publicly because, like I said, I want the word to get out there. I want the word to spread, and hopefully it will be noticed by those who can help make this happen. Eric is all for it. He's all for the idea to do this roundtable, to have me come out to D.C. I'll come out of my own dime. I don't mind. I'll make this happen because I think it's extremely important, so I'll make this happen on my end,

whatever I need to do to make that happen. And he's for it. So I'm going to work on this and gosh, it's going to be, I can't make any promises on this. It's going to be extremely difficult to coordinate something like this. Even if it's just Eric and two other congressmen or women, you know, I can shoot for the moon and try to get six all at once in a roundtable discussion. That would be amazing. But even, you know, to have one other person along with Eric is going to be extremely difficult to coordinate. So I'm putting this out there publicly.

I'm trying to do this. Eric has greenlit it on his end to have a roundtable discussion to have me come out to D.C. and host this roundtable discussion with him and other members of Congress about this issue. So I'll keep you updated. I mean, I'm shooting for the stars on this one. A highly ambitious effort on my part. I fully admit that. But I'm going to do my best to make this happen, especially since I got the go ahead from Eric to pursue it.

So fingers crossed. Wish me luck. And hopefully it all works out well. last thing before I go three months from now I will be at contact in the desert look forward to seeing you there hopefully you're going if you're planning on going

of course this is the biggest UFO conference in the world every year this happens I went last year for the first time it's at the end of May into early June I'll be there on that weekend for a couple days and I can't wait to go so if you're going I will be at contact in the desert

and I was actually able to get a special code this year to give you discounts on five day tickets so if you're going, five-day tickets are awesome because it allows you to experience everything throughout the entire conference. So if you buy five-day tickets and use the discount code that I was given to give to you, it's Radio 5, the word radio, and then the number 5. So Radio 5, if you use that when you're checking out on the five-day ticket for contact in the desert, Radio 5, the number five there at the end, then you'll get a discount, courtesy of the code that they gave me there to

give to you. So by all means, hopefully you can do it. And hopefully, I see you there. But aside from that, there was a lot of catching up to do there after the interview with Eric. I hope you enjoyed it. I think this was really important today. And I can't wait to see where we go next. Not only in the next episode of UAP,

but just in this discussion in general, I'm going to do my best to continue to bring it all to you here on the Unidentified Alien podcast. So until then, continue to download and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast, spread the word. Let's get it out there. And I'll keep coming back to do what we do here on UAP. So on that note, thank you very, very much for the continued support for always coming back.

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