UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 198 Timothy Alberino part 2: The Secret Past of Giants & Unmasking the "Face peelers"

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

After a rousing part 1, Timothy Alberino is back with the shocking historical accounts of giants that points to them playing a very big hidden role in human history. Why do the elites want to keep it a secret? And we learn the terrifying truth behind those alien "face peeler" reports out of Peru in 2023. Tim was there and he gives the unfiltered account about what was happening to those villagers. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hawaii starts here. Welcome into UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast, episode number 198, and she never closed her to 200, and we do have some special stuff planned for that, so I'll let you know what's going on there a little later on. But first, today, we are going to finish off with our friend,

Timothy Alborino, for part two of my conversation with him. And hopefully you enjoyed part one. I know there was a lot in there to take in, and that's why I really wanted to split these up. I know, quite frankly, some of you, I see the messages where you are not happy when I do two parts. I apologize for that, but I hope you still enjoy the show. And I hope you see why, by the end of it, why I decide to split these up sometimes, because there's just so much that's covered. I want it to set in and not throw so much at you at once because it all means something.

And I wanted to have everything get its deserved time and attention. So that's why I sometimes like to do these two-part episodes. And this one absolutely deserved that distinction. And I have a feeling there might be more of those coming up in the future as well. But for this one, we're going to finish off by going through, you know, just a few lighthearted topics like the truth behind ancient giants and demons and face pealers in Peru, you know, lighthearted things like that. All kidding aside, because these are heavy topics. But this is stuff that throughout the entirety of the conversation in this part two that I didn't know about when it comes to some of the history with giants. I mean, there were some things behind the scenes that's, you know, I was familiar with.

But then as Tim also went into his experience, his personal experience when he went to Peru a few years back to investigate the face peeler phenomenon. And this is the reason why I wanted to reach out to Tim Albrino originally a few years back was when that was going on in Peru. If you remember, it was around summer-ish early fall in 2023 when you had all these reports from villagers in Peru. And they were taking video of chasing after people with like shotguns and everything. And there's something going on where people were coming out of the jungle and kidnapping people. And then they would find their, you know, people from their village with their faces peeled off. Hence the term face peelers. And they didn't know what was going on.

They were possibly experiencing some type of advanced technology from the culprits who are doing this. Was it human? Was it extraterrestrial? Well, Tim Albino went to Peru to investigate that in 2023. And so we focus on that heavily here in this episode. But first, we do get into the port. about, yes, giants, real-life giants that may have been around in ancient times and maybe we're even around after that. So we start off right there picking up where we left off in

episode one and then the conversation goes on from there with these things that I mentioned. Stick around. I have a lot of afterthoughts for this one. But first, here's myself with Timothy Albarino in part two of our conversation on this episode of UAP. Enjoy. You talk to researchers who have actually dug up bones, they've told you, of giants. So we're talking about, according to these accounts, physical evidence, as well as physical as you can get, evidence of giants existing at some point, not only from the biblical terms, but from physical science of having these bones. So why do you think mainstream science wants to literally keep those things buried? Why do you think they don't want people to accept that this was part of our past? Again, I'm going to have to invoke the complexity of the situation here because there could be various reasons.

Yeah. But for me, nothing really makes sense except for the proposition that the occult is involved. And the reason why I say that is because I used to think that, well, the reason why they are lying about the bones of giants. and that they are so committed to omitting the existence of giants from the historical record is because of the Darwinian paradigm, the Darwinian worldview, evolution by natural selection. It doesn't really fit that paradigm very well. And in addition to that, it would validate the testimony of the Old Testament. And undoubtedly, there's truth to those statements, but more so to the second than to the first.

the existence of giants, as far as I understand it, doesn't really compromise the theory of evolution. It would be very easy for a Darwinist to just draw another branch in the evolutionary chain, right? Oh, well, these giants must have descended from this. We already have that. Yeah. Gigantle Pythicus was a giant upright, bipedal ape. Right. So we already have a potential. it would be very easy for evolutionists to attach the existence of giants, you know, humanoid giants to gigantopithecus. Oh, they just evolved on this branch of the tree. Done.

Easy, right? Yeah, exactly. I don't see any problem with that. Right. Now, in regard to the existence of giants verifying elements of the Old Testament, well, that's undoubtedly true, but it's broader than that. The Old Testament is not exclusive in its, in its, recording of the existence of giants, right? And it's, it's, it's testimony in regard to giants.

Every ancient culture around the world has a tradition of giants. And many of them wrote about giants. The best example here is the, the epic of Gilgamesh. The Mesopotamians clearly believed that giants existed. And there's a lot of other examples as well. Basically, everybody in the Near East, in the ancient Near East, understood that giant. existed and had traditions and some of them written records of giants in various capacities, whether we're talking about mythological stories or giants who fought in battles or who people encountered in narratives, right? So it's not exclusive to the Hebrew account. This would be an attestation of the existence of giants as recorded by the ancient near Eastern people

in general, not specifically the Bible. The Bible's included in there for sure, and perhaps most prominently, because I'm not sure that any other ancient text speaks so directly about giants. I like to say, because this is what I've encountered, that it seems to me that the topic of giants is more highly classified than the topics of, than the topic of UFOs and aliens. This is what I've encountered out there in the world. Individuals who, let's say, who maybe were adjacent to the crash retrieval program or, if not directly involved, they'll talk to you about UFOs. They'll talk to you about aliens. They'll talk to you about Greys, Nordics.

I mean, they won't go on a podcast with you and talk about it publicly, but they'll talk to you about it privately. They'll say things over a whiskey and cigar that they wouldn't say on a Zoom. call. But I mean, I don't think I've ever encountered anybody willing to talk openly about giants. So strange. In any setting. In any setting. It seems like an easy leap to make, too. I mean, and that's what kind of confounds me about the secrecy surrounding the existence of giants. It just, it feels like an easy explanation, at least easier to me than to explain what we were talking about earlier, all the theoretical science behind extraterrestrials. It does. And I should clarify, it's not that they don't want to talk about the individuals that I've spoken with,

that they don't want to talk about it because they don't know about it. Rather, when I broached the topic, it's like, oh, no, no, no. We can't go there. Or it's like, you know, literally looking at me and going like this. Wow. Giving you the signal no more. No more. So it's, it's, for whatever reason, it's highly classified.

And I suspect, as I said in the beginning, that the reason why so highly classified is it's entangled with the occult. That's my guess. And people will recall that there were in the WikiLeaks emails, John Podesta's emails were leaked, among many other things. And in one of those emails, apparently Hillary Clinton was inquiring about the resurrection tomb of Gilgamesh, about the location of his body. Well, that's consistent with what we with the cult of giants in the ancient Near East, specifically the Canaanite cult of giants. This is where the term Refayne comes from, by the way. The root word for Refayne, which was the clan of giants, comes from the root word Rafa. In the word Rafa means to heal or to man,

but it also means to reconstit. You could also derive from it the word to reconstitute or to resurrect. And the idea was that the giants had the ability to regenerate themselves. And that's why you had to cut their heads off. But also, certainly they believe that the giants, after they died, that you could still maintain communication with them. And you could invoke their disembodied spirits. You could bring them back into the land of the living. Or, according to the book of Enoch, when the giants died,

God cursed them. And the curse was that their spirits would persist in the world as vagabond wraiths, disembodied vagabond wraiths. And that they would experience all the desires of the flesh. In other words, they'd be hungry and thirsty and so forth. But they wouldn't have bodies through which to satiate those desires, to quench those appetites. And so they seek to inhabit bodies. And of course, this is what we find in the New Testament. them. So the tradition, the Canaanite tradition was the cult of giants and it was thought that the dead could

join them in the feast and they would invoke different giants. They would invoke the refaine and they would invite them to commune and to, and probably to inhabit certain individuals. And I could talk for a very long time about this because there's a, there's rights on the island of Sardinia, the right of incubation, which involved, it was a right of passage for young people who would incubate in the tombs of the giants. That's what they're called to this day, the tombs of the giants, in order to commune with the spirits of dead giants, the mighty ones who were likely buried beneath the tombs.

And maybe this was sort of like machinery, so to speak, for demon possession. Wow. For young people to go in there and get demonized and come out, you know, berserker warriors or something, you know, with these supernatural enhancement of demon possession. So there's something that connects this, the cult of giants, the Canaanite cult of giants with modern practitioners of the occult. There's a direct link here. It's interesting. And it's becoming

popular now. People are realizing that there's a cult of Baal, or Baal. Right, right. That the elites are involved in this worship of Baal. And that's true. That's a Canaanite God. And Baal was worshipped by, was associated with the giants and was broadly speaking was one of the primary deities in the land of among the Canaanites and there's a direct association without going too deep into the weeds here there's a direct association with the refiim with the clans of giants and ball so those things go hand in hand so if you have the elites let's say for the sake of arguments somebody like oh i don't know Hillary Clinton just to throw a name who is involved in the cult of Baal, well, then they would be very, very interested in recovering the bones of giants,

as she apparently was. Yeah. And not only the bones of giants, but the resurrection tomb, or the resurrection tombs of the giants, maybe to commune with them, maybe to invoke their power, their prowess, maybe to extract knowledge from them, maybe to demonize themselves or other people. Because remember, the spirits of the giants, when they die, they become demons. That's the origin of demons, by the way, in biblical cosmology. Demons are the disembodied spirits of dead giants.

So you can see how this would be very useful, advantageous. If you could summon and control the spirits of dead giants, glean information, these are very ancient beings. Yeah. Especially the Nephilim from the antediluvian world. fathers were the watchers. They know a lot of stuff, right? So it would be very useful to be able to commune with these beings. And this is the objective of the magician. And when I say magician, I'm not talking about the guy that, you know, makes doves fly out of his sleeve. I'm talking about Alistair Crowley, the real magician. They call themselves magicians and magic with a

k. The objective of the magician is to control demonic spirit. Yeah. Is to control spirits. Is to gain mastery over these things and to use them, to make use of them. The cult of Baal is intricately intertwined with the Nephilim and giants and dead giants and tombs of giants and resurrecting or communicating with dead giants, controlling their spirits. It's all there.

So that's the long answer, right? to why are, why is all of this hidden? Well, because I think that it's, it's hidden by the, and when we say the occult, of course, that's a, it's a very ambiguous term. The occult doesn't mean your local, which is Coven. Right. In this sense.

It does in one sense. But in this sense, we're talking about, we're talking about the Jeffrey Epstein level elite, luciferian occultists. Right. Many of whom are members of the mystery schools. And those are the individuals who would be keeping the lid on this thing. It's wild.

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but I kind of blew my mind a little bit to kind of draw the connection to all of that. and how that, you know, would cause all the secrecy. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's the only thing that makes sense in my mind. It's just a theory. Right. It's the only thing that makes sense in my mind. Again, I illustrated how I think that those other two ideas are fairly weak.

They don't really have explanatory power in regard to why there's such a tight lid on the topic of giants. Evolution, I think we can scrap that one because we have gigantopithecus, as I said, and the validation of the biblical narrative. Yeah, there's something there, but it doesn't account for the extreme secrecy. Yeah. We're looking at the cult of Baal. We're looking at, who by the way was the adversary of Yahweh. Right.

And that's testament. I mean, it's basically, you know, another name for, you know, the devil. That's right. Yeah. That's exactly right. Um, wow. So on that note, Tim, it's just incredible stuff here today. And there is one thing that I absolutely want to get to before we're done. And that is your exploits in Peru. Um, when I kind of first came across your career and, you know, your research and everything was when the face peeler events, the face peeler reports were going on in 2023 in Peru in South America. I did it some of, you know, your research and everything was when the face peeler events, the face peeler events, the face peal reports were going on in South America. I did it. I did. It's some of some investigations into those things, just basically, you know, basic investigation on what I could find online. I put those investigations into the episodes that I did here when I covered that

a few years ago. But I was watching from afar some of the things that you were posting at that point. And I just, I found it so intriguing because there, again, when we talk about physical evidence with the giants, there was physical evidence going on in Peru, not only in 2023, but also in other reports from decades earlier, I believe in the 70s, that point to 70s or 80s, that pointed to some type of entity attacking people. So when you, and they called them face peelers, because for anybody who doesn't know, they would literally, you know, according to lore and what people would find in the bodies, their face would be peeled off. So what do you recall about those investigations and looking back on it now, how do you explain what you went to

witness in Peru a few years back. Okay, well, yeah, the face peeler phenomenon, Pelacada, as they call them in Spanish, goes back to about the mid-80s, and the indigenous people live inhabiting the jungle. The face-pealer phenomenon is kind of like the boogeyman here in the United States that the mother would tell her child, don't go walking around at night in the jungle,

or the face-peelers might get you. And the reason why they would say, that is because there were incidents of individuals who had gone missing and showed up later, their bodies turned up later with their faces surgically removed. Crazy. With great precision. Right. And I should mention, too, and I'm sure you probably get to it as well, but I should mention

as a preface that you lived in Peru, for anybody who doesn't know, that you lived in Peru as a teenager for, I don't know how many years, but I know you... As a young man, yeah. for 10 years, approximately 10 years. So, in fact, I lived in the general area where this was taking place, the recent flap, the recent face peeler flap, was taking place in the region of Alto Nain. And I had spent a great deal of time, actually, in the jungles, in and around Altonanaai. The indigenous people, they believe, when they would find these individuals with their faces removed, sometimes with their organs removed as well. They believe, basically there are two ideas.

The first idea is that gringoes, again, this goes back to the 80s, gringoes were from the CIA or whatever, were in the jungle harvesting organs. That's the first idea, that these were gringoes with technology, and they were harvesting organs. And the second idea was that these were extraterrestrials, these were aliens. And the reason why so many indigenous people to this day think they're extraterrestrials is because of the technology that's deployed, which many of them have seen, have seen in the past, and also many of them encountered in the recent flap in 2023. So that happened in the summer and primarily in the summer of 2023, the months of June and July. And there were extended incidents that were unfolding in a number of different villages in the region of Altonana, generally speaking, but also in other parts of the Peruvian Amazon as well.

There was people were experiencing not only face-peeler incursions into their village, but also there were reports of people who were being attacked by UFOs, very much like the people. the Colades incident that happened in Brazil where there was one young man who reported that a flying saucer was pursuing him and deployed a light and was attempting to lift him off the ground. There was another incident in which there were, there was a group of young people from a college from a university who were doing something in the jungle and they all witnessed this being, this bipedal being that was walking. through the forest, the jungle.

So incidents like that were breaking out at the same time, apparently related to the face peeler stuff. But specifically, there was a couple of videos that emerged from the village of San Antonio de Pintoiaku in Altonanaay. And a young man in the village had recorded these videos. And the villagers, in the videos, the villagers, they were filmed at night. the villagers were in a state of disarray.

It's a very chaotic scene. They were clearly frightened, running around, shouting, and discharging their shotguns. Right. At something. And then subsequent interviews revealed that they were pursuing these people, these individuals. Some of them described them as aliens who looked like the Green Goblin from the Spider-Man movies. You know, that was flying on, the Green Goblin would fly on that platform. and he was dressed in a body armor.

And I would discover that that's actually a very, I would discover later that that's actually a very accurate depiction. Wow. That these beings, that these assailants were flying on a platform and dressed in body armor. So this is a very, very long tail. So I'm going to try and truncate it here. Sure. During, as these videos were circulating,

going viral on the internet, people were asking me to go down there and investigate, precisely because I'm so familiar with this area of Peru and I speak Spanish and even more specifically Chattapa. And so I didn't really want to go. I didn't have my passport at the time. I had sent my passport away to get renewed. And so I had a convenient excuse. I don't have my passport.

So I just sort of watched this all unfold with everybody else on social media. I did some videos about it on my YouTube channel. I was very intrigued. me and my friend and colleague Doug Thornton. And we did a series of videos on this. And ultimately, I got my passport back. And I no longer had an excuse. And so, long story short, I decided to go.

I decided to mount an expedition, me and Doug Thornton. And we chartered a riverboat. And I made contact with the village through. Ronnie Vernet, the uphologist Ronnie Vernet, a Brazilian uphologist. He helped me make contact with the village. In fact, he put me in contact with Christian. Christian is the one who filmed the footage that went viral. And Christian happened to be the school teacher there in San Antonio the Pinto Yaku.

And I made a WhatsApp recording at his request detailing my intentions, what I would like to do. namely that I would like to come and conduct an investigation. Nobody had gone yet. I was kind of surprised. I thought somebody was going to go, either a Peruvian journalist, because it was a big deal in Peru. It was all over the news. Yeah.

I thought a Peruvian journalist was going to travel up there for sure, or somebody, some American or some European was going to go and do an investigation. Nobody went. The only person who went was there was a couple of police officers who were dispatched to go out there. They had a Navy escort. And they went out there because they had to go do an investigation of an attempted abduction, the attempted abduction of a 15-year-old girl named Talia.

So they had to go out there and file a report. They did a piss poor investigation. We could talk about that later. But anyway, they're the ones who concocted the whole jetpack minor narrative. Right. I remember that. Which turned out to be utterly false and stupid. And I knew that.

That's part of the reason why I went, by the way. This jetpack minor narrative was proliferating. And people were saying even on like News Nation, oh, mystery solved. It's those pesky jet river miners with state of the art jet packs. I remember that. Utterly absurd. And I knew it was absurd. So that's one of the things that prompted me like, okay, fine.

I'm going to go down there and do this because this is stupid. And so when I made contact with the village, the elders, they listened to my recording. And then in response, I got an official invitation. So I didn't just insert. I always say that because I don't want people to think I just inserted myself. into the situation. I didn't. I was invited to go. Okay. And I decided to also to supply the village because it was made known to me that they were running out of supplies. They were they were out of anti-venom, for example, for snake bites. They were out of they were running out of ammunition.

They were out of food supplies. The men were not going to their chakras to the little farms out in the jungle because they were they were everybody was in a state of panic and and and was, and was, basically staying close to home. And the men were actually conducting patrols every night. They'd be up all night, patrolling the village with their shotguns. So they were kind of in dire straits. And so we decided to supply them with food and medical supplies. And Doug and I decided to bring some strategic technology to aid them in their patrols,

including high-powered flashlights, which are exceedingly useful in the jungle. High power flashlights. Really good radios so that they could communicate with each other on their patrol. Night vision goggles with recording capabilities so that they could record anything that they were seeing and send it to us. Thermal binoculars and some other things as well. And we also brought them more ammunition for their shotguns. 16-gauge shotguns. Nice.

chartered the riverboat, brought the supplies to the villagers. So when we got there, the villagers, they actually did a little ceremony for us to welcome us. These are the Akitu people, by the way, very, very old tribe. And so they did a dance for us and really received us very warmly. So then after that, we began our investigation in earnest, and we were walking around with the Apu, the chief of the village. and he was bringing us to all the various sites around the village where people had encountered these entities and interviewing the villagers.

And dozens and dozens of the people in the village had encountered the phenomenon directly. Some of them saw, okay, so I'll just describe what they saw. The incursions would begin with people would see two like little flying saucers or various little mini flying saucers flying around in the air above the village. No sound, just like little flying saucers. They had lights around the perimeter. They were like the size of, I don't know.

Sometimes you'd see people sled riding with those circular sleds, those circles, remember? Yeah. I don't know what those are called. Like the circular sleds, they used to be popular, not so much anymore. There's something like that. So imagine people flying around on those things, disks. And they would see these disks flying around or hovering above their village. And then they would notice two, two discs would go fly over.

the jungle and descend and land. It turns out that these disks were like hoverboards. Hoverboard technology. They were circles. They were flying disks. And the villagers oftentimes saw people on the discs.

And they would always go like this. Every time they described this to me, all of the villagers, they would go like this. Like they were surfing, basically, had these discs. Yeah, like surfing on the air, trying to keep their balance. Yeah.

Yeah, controlling the disks. Right, okay. And the disc were silent, except for when they took off, when they lifted off the ground, there was like a compressed air sound, they told me. And they would always come two by two when they would make the incursions into the village. And so they would land the disc in the jungle. And then they would usually disembark from the disc, from the platforms. And they would silently, surreptitiously make their way into the village.

And sometimes the villagers would catch them, and they would be creeping in. and they were dressed in stealth body armor, head to foot. So imagine the green goblin flying on his thing, except there was no noise, no propulsion system. And there were circles. But just like the green goblin who was dressed head to foot in our body armor, except his body armor was green, very, very similar to that. I mean, it really is very similar.

These assailants, they had helmets. except they didn't have the big grinning face on the helmets, like the Green Goblin. But they did have those almond-shaped eye lenses. And their helmets were elongated. Wow. So very, very reminiscent of the Green Goblin. Like I keep saying, that's a really comparison is apropos. So two of these guys at a time would stealthily enter the village.

Sometimes they'd be caught coming in. And in one case, I think this was the first incursion. They walked me through this in the village. One individual saw these guys. He was out back, I think, taking a leak. And he saw all these two guys creeping in. And so he grabbed, he happened to have his shotgun on him because he was guarding what's called the Tombo.

Tombo is a government building. It was a building that was built by the municipal government. It's a communications post. Okay. And he got close enough to these guys, and he shot them with the shotgun. Wow. And he hit one of them.

And he heard the BBs dingin off something. some body armor and the guy sort of like, you know, leaned down and was checking his leg out. That was sort of like the first incursion. Wow. And then after that, almost every night, there were waves of incursions or every other night, certainly every week. And these guys would come in two by two into the village, stealth body armor, head to foot. And now the villagers were having very close encounters, face to face, just a few feet away.

And they would see these guys, shine. their flashlight on them. Sometimes they would describe them as not walking but floating. And they all described this in the same way. Same exact way. The assailants were wearing these boots that had circles on the bottom. Each boot had two circles on the bottom of it. And there was a light emitting from these circles. And so they could float. And about a meter off the ground. In fact, in a couple of occasions, the villagers shot them with their shotguns at close proximity, and the assailants would get knocked back from the shotgun blast, but then pop right back up. Wow.

Completely unaffected. I mean, except for the fact that they were knocked back on their butt momentarily. Yeah. So the villagers realized, these guys are bulletproof. So they started to take, because they were using 16-gauge birdshot. They started to take, you know, open up the cartridge and to, to melt the BBs of the birdshot into slugs and then put them back in the cartridge.

So they were making their own makeshift slugs because they realized the birdshot wasn't doing anything. But it turns out the slugs really weren't doing anything either. In fact, they were setting up traps around the perimeter of the village. Nine traps, they told me, which, without going in too much detail, the traps are just these like tubes with cartridge in them and a mechanism, a hammer mechanism, and a string. So these are common traps in the jungle.

very, very dangerous. You trip the string and it discharges the cartridge, right? These assailants, by the way, were tall, unusually tall. All of the villagers said they were taller than me, and I'm six, I'm six one. So, and when they said they were taller than me, I'd be like, you know, how much taller? This much taller, this much taller. They would all say a foot taller or more. Some people said like two, three feet taller than me. Wow. Exaggerating, probably, right? Probably exaggerating. But, but nevertheless, at least as tall as me if not taller. And so the villagers, when they set these traps up, they, they position them so that they would be the height of their knees. What they estimated would be their knees so that they

try and take them out at the knees, literally. And they would hear the traps going off at night, and they would, they didn't catch any of them, but they would go out to check the traps, and they would see the footprints of the assailants. But, you know, rather than it being a boot footprint, it was these two circles, these two little circles next to each other with the outline of a boot, right? So there's some kind of levitation technology on the footwear. Yeah. Apart from the discs that they fly on. Right, right.

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And these assailants, most of the time they're dressed in like stealth black, but on one occasion, this one guy in the village, he swore to me, no, this dude was silver. He was silver. He was like, I'm telling you, I have my flashlight right on him, silver. And this is one of the guys that shot one of these dudes at close range and knocked him back on his butt. But most people told me they were stealth black, like Matt Black. Yeah. And they seem to be, it seems to be stealth technology.

Like the body armor is, is really, really stealthy, not just black, something else going on. Like they could disappear almost, something like that. And they did have backpacks on, but they were like hard shell small backpacks. They weren't jet packs. Right, right, okay. Now, I think some of the villagers may be. when they described this to the, to the police officers who came to investigate,

the Peruvian police officers, I think some of the villagers were confused, thinking that, you know, in their minds, there's got to be jet packs. Remember, these guys, these are, this is the Iquitu people, right? But they're not, they're not uncivilized. You know, they're not walking around naked or wearing grass skirts. These are, these are civilized villagers.

They watch all the same movies we do. They know what helicopters are. They know what, they know what aircraft is. know what jet packs are you know they watch all the same instagram reels that you all watch so uh these are people who are very very well informed okay in that regard and i think some of them did confuse the the backpacks for jet packs but clearly they they weren't a lot of these guys um were very specific they were they were emphatic that the propulsion system was in the boots and on the discs it's crazy i surmised that the jet

that the packs, because these are like little hard shell packs, that these are reactors or battery packs or something like that. And clearly, when they would be described floating, it was always the boots. There was a light emanating from the bottom of the boots. Every time they would describe that as the boots. So on one occasion, there's this 15-year-old girl named Talia who was in her backyard. And by the way, all the incursions would happen after dark. right always have to blend in in the dark suits this 15-year-old girl she was out in her backyard at dusk she was knocking down some fruit from her tree and to make a drink and the fruit hits the

ground she bends over to pick it up and she notices that there she felt a wind at her back and the in the leaves sort of rustled around and she looked over and i should say that in her backyard she's in the middle of the village or she's not on the very outstress of the village she's there's other houses around, right? Other other dwellings are around their dwelling. But in between, there's like this golly, this forested golly. So there's jungle in there. And it's in her house, it dips down.

And then when it climbs back up, there's other houses around, right? So when she bent over to pick up this fruit and she felt this breeze, she looked over and she saw one of these guys surfing on one of these platforms. And he flew up. That's where the wind was coming from. He flew up next to her and he landed right behind her. And he landed his disc and he grabbed her by the mouth. And he had a glove on.

He grabbed her by the mouth. And by the waist, she is securely in the arms of this guy. But she saw another guy directly after fly up this hill on the platform, landed in front of her and grabbed her feet. So now she's being held by these two guys. And then she described their body armor. It's actually pretty interesting. They had armor on their chest, armor on their shoulders.

It wasn't all hard. Like there were a segment. It was segmented. Okay. Like the Green Goblin. Yeah, right. Right. And keep referring to that because it's very accurate.

I said, when they took off, how did they do that? Did they activate any kind of like a mechanism? Did they press a button? Did they have anything in their hands? She said they didn't have anything in their hands. But after they grabbed her, they both reached down and press something on their boot. to re-engage the technology, to float off of the disks, right? So they re-engage the technology.

Now they're floating, holding her, and they float her over to behind this little chicken coop, this grass roof, thatched roof chicken coop, behind her house. And they land, and remember, they got her by the mouth, and without going through all the details, it would take me 20 minutes to tell this story in great detail. They put some cream on her face. First, they shot something up her nose or the nasal syringe,

and that made her feel disoriented. then they smeared cream on her face. And she said that when they put the cream on her face, her face went numb, instantly went numb. And she heard them talking in Spanish. One of them had a gringo accent, and the other one sounded like a Peruvian. And she said that one of them said to the other,

be careful, be careful, don't put too much on. You're going to ruin the flesh. And she understood that as when they went to cut her face off, that it would make it harder if they put too much, of this cream on. And then they took out what we think was a laser scalpel. And they began to make an incision under her neck. In fact, they made two incisions because they were, they were too high and then they went lower or they were too low and then they started going higher. And while they started to do this, it looks like a laser. While they started to do this, she reached behind her and she started to

push up the helmet of the guy holding her from behind. She was starting to lift up his helmet. And he sort of freaked out because he didn't want her to see his face. Yeah. And so the guy in front of her slapped her in the face. And during this commotion, they dropped her. And when they momentarily lost control of her. And so she screamed. She let out one blood-curdling scream.

And you have to remember, this wasn't the first incursion. So the villagers are already doing patrols. They're sitting on their front porches with their shotguns. So when they heard her scream in their flashlights, when they heard her scream, they were on scene pretty quick. Her brother and some other villagers who were in the vicinity, their homes were in the vicinity. They were on scene, like in 30 seconds.

And so after she screamed, one of the assailants said, let's go, let's go. We have to get out of here. And the other one said, no, we can't just leave her here. And he grabbed her by the hair and was dragging her, flying on his disc, dragging her up the hill. But like as if they wanted to lift her up by her hair, But the villagers were on scene too quick, so they let her go.

And when the villagers got there, they told me what they saw, unsurprisingly, were two guys surfing on discs. Yeah. And they saw Talia laying on the ground, blood in blood on her face. And the two guys on the discs, when the villagers approached them, they just shot up into the sky. Really? Up to the trees. Wow. This was a testimony of Talia and her brother and other villagers who were there.

So Talia, you know, I didn't mention this, but when we interviewed Talia, we went into the village in the evening one evening. We were in the village two or three days, I can't remember. Definitely three nights. And when we went into the village one evening specifically wanting to talk to Talia, everybody in these jungle villages in the evening, all the men are playing soccer, all the women are playing volleyball. And the rest of everyone else is just sort of sitting around walking. watching and it's a very relaxing scene. And we approach the Apu, the chief, who's a young man. We asked him, we told him we'd like to interview Talia. And it just so happens that Talia was

sitting over against the wall of the hut watching the people play volleyball and soccer. And she had a smile on her face. She was sitting by herself on a bench against the wall. And he said, there's Talia right there. And he said, you guys can go and talk to her if you like let me go get her father first. And, you know, her father can go and let her know you'd like to talk to her. So as he's going and fetching her father, Talia's just sitting here with kind of the smile on her face, enjoying herself. She looks over and she sees me and Doug. And me and Doug are pretty imposing figures.

You know, I'm 6'1. Doug's a big guy. He's shorter than me, but he's a powerlifter. He's a big guy. Gotcha. And she looks over at us and immediately starts to tremble. she looks over and she starts to tremble she's like in shock and she takes her hair her long hair

and she moves it over to the side of her face so we can't see her face and she's just sitting there trembling obviously severe PTSD right right and her father goes over to her and says you know these gentlemen would like to talk to you and she refused she did not she was crying and he came over to us and he said I'm sorry she's very upset she's crying she's trembling she's she's associating you guys with her assailants Yeah, right. And by the way, we sent her to a psychiatrist in the city of Ikitos to get treated

because she was really in bad shape. Our heart's broke for this girl. And anyway, her dad just told us she does not want to talk to you. He said, but come to our house tomorrow morning and just show up, you know, come in the morning, and I'll talk to her and I'll bring her to you and I'll just give me time to talk to her, to let her know that you guys are not the bad guys. you're trying to help us and so forth. So that's how we ended up talking to Talia.

But that was our encounter with her. When she came out, when her father brought her out the next morning, you know, when she was standing in front of me, she was trembling and crying. Wow. She's just at the site because you guys reminded her of, I guess, similar stature. There's a lot of other things I could say about this, but I don't want to just drone on for hours. People can go watch a video on my YouTube channel for all the details.

but apart from the hover disk technology, there were also advanced aerospace vehicles involved. Oh. Because many of the villagers saw a craft that they described it. Look, they drew it in the, and I have it in the video. Several of them drew it in the dirt for me. They all drew the exact same thing. It was kind of like a triangle shape, but rounded.

And the way they described it was an acorn, like an acorn on its side. Okay. And in fact, there's a scene in the video. where this guy draws it on an acrylic chalkboard for me and I film it. And he describes the craft in great detail because he had a close encounter with it one night, pulling up his nets. And some of them said that he said that the body of the craft that he saw was translucent. In other words, it looked like mesh, like a screen door, you know, like mesh.

But he could see the shape of the craft and he could see two bundles or people inside of it, in which he interpreted as two guys sitting at chairs. in seats, one in the front, one in the middle. And he described the craft, the various lights and so forth. And many people in village saw these craft. But he was the only one who said he saw it translucent. The others, when they saw it, it was just dark and hovering. Like it had dark body armor type, like Matt Black, not body armor, but like that

Matt Black type coating on it. Yeah. And it just hovered about 40 feet above the village. and multiple people saw this thing. Again, they all drew it for me. So there's advanced aerospace vehicle, vehicles involved in this phenomenon. That's why the jetpack miner,

you know, everybody invoking this, how many of these people have ever encountered river miners? I have. Yeah. And believe me, they don't have anything that we would even describe as advanced technology, let alone modern technology.

They're floating around on these, rusted out metal boats and dumping a bunch of mercury in the water and trudging the bottom of the river, killing all the fish in there. And it's just terrible what they do. And these are, these are criminals and they're, they're not sophisticated. Believe me. Right. So they're dangerous. They're armed with shotguns and pistols. But they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not sophisticated. They're not what you guys saw. Yeah, just incredible. I mean, to say the least, so, I guess all in all, Tim, you know, looking back and all that, what do you think ultimately we were dealing with there? I mean, was this special operation, some type of clandestine CIA type thing?

There's an incident in the city of Nauta that we investigated, which was really, really fascinating. And the reason why I invoke Nauta is because people were saying, and we'll say to this day, that, oh, these were river miners with jet packs, and they wanted to scare the people, drive them out of their lands so that they could mine the river for gold. well, you know, and the idea is that these are soft targets out in the middle of nowhere, and that the jetpack, the miners were putting, you know, sheets on drones to try and scare the people, making them think they're ghosts. You know, has that happened? Sure, that's happened in the past. But that's not what this was.

And the proof, the definitive proof that that's not what we're dealing with is the fact that these incursions were also happening, or at least these assailants, were also being seen around the city of Nauta, 36,000 inhabitants. This is a hardened target. There's a police force. There's an army presence with helicopters, and there's a Navy base with Navy boats. This is not a soft target.

Right. And the same phenomenon was being seen in Nauta. Incredible. So bye-bye to the idea of these who are trying to drive these hapless villagers off of their land. No. because the same stuff was happening in Nauta. In fact, outside of Nauta, there's a village called Bagasan, not far from Nauta,

and a boy was attacked. And this young boy, same kind of assailants dressed in the same body armor, flying on disc, same deal. They attacked this boy, and they had cut, they had successfully cut into his, on both sides, cut under his jaw as if they're going to take his face off. but the boy was rescued i don't remember what the exact circumstances were to his rescue the boy was rescued when he was rescued he was rushed to the hospital because he had he had these deep lacerations in his under his neck yeah and he looked like it looked like it looked like gills i mean it looked like he looked like a fish with gills geez and it was very gory and it was on it was on peruvian tv i

put it in one of my videos it was on peruvian tv they show everything in for real they don't they don't to blur much over there. And the boys just sitting there in the hospital in shock, bleeding from his neck. And thankfully, they were able to sew him up and give him blood and save his life. My goodness, gracious. So these incursions were happening all over the place. People can refer to my videos about this on my YouTube channel,

which is just my name, Timothy Alborino. Watch out. There are some imposer accounts out there. Mine should be apparent. You'll see my featured video is our report on this on my YouTube channel. So if you want all the details and the video, the footage of us out there doing this investigation, then I would refer you to that YouTube video. Yeah, absolutely.

And I guess just on your way out here, Tim, just I guess, you know, short answer. What was your final assessment? Extrarestrial, human? What kind of... Oh, yeah, I didn't answer your question. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so I was illustrating. I was bringing up those extra additional details to make my point about

that, which is I think that we're looking at human beings, nefarious human beings, in possession of advanced technology, including aerospace technology. What's the purpose? What are they doing? Who knows? I suspect they're using the face peeler legend as cover for something else. And I should remark at the very end here, there was a joint military operation happening in Peru called Resolute Sentinel involving almost every branch of the United States military, also including the Coast Guard. The Space Force was there in Peru. The Peruvian equivalent branches of the military were involved. So was Brazil.

So was Uruguay. I believe Ecuador was involved. The United Kingdom was involved. There were a handful of different countries. This was a quote unquote exercise, right? Military exercise happening just so happens at the end of this exercise, these exercises corresponded, overlapped with the face peeler incursions. So is there something to that?

Was Resolute Sentinel a cover? Was it being used as a cover for some other operation that was being run in the Peruvian jungle? Now I'm not suggesting that the United States military were the perpetrators. But what if they were hunting the perpetrators? What if this was like a predator scenario? And the Resolute Sentinel operation was being used as a cover for a real operation in which we had special forces guys in the Proving Amazon trying to weed something out. Or, you know, some people like to say, no, though they were testing technology on the villagers. I don't like to think about that.

So, I mean, I can't totally rule that out. But I would lean more in the direction of a rogue aerospace contractor or a contractor of an aerospace contractor that's gone rogue and is testing technology or actually harvesting faces. Look, if they're harvesting faces, if that's what the op was, they really suck. at their job because they only got a couple. Yeah. There were a couple of cases where people did have their faces removed. Wow. During this flap, at least one in particular that I'm aware of that was confirmed to me

by the villagers of San Antonio de Pinto Yaku. It was a young man. But for the most part, you know, they were making dozens and dozens and dozens of incursions and only got a couple of faces. That sounds like a cover for something to me. That sounds like they wanted the villagers to think that this was a, the face peelers were here to cover for something else that they were doing in the jungle. Now, were they abducting people, were maybe, I, again, it wasn't limited to San Antonio de Pinto Yaku. There were other villages.

They were being attacked. Right. And not just in Alto Nana. There were villages being attacked outside of the city of Terrapoto where two of my children were born. Wow. In the Peruvian Amazon. So it was fairly widespread. And if they were there to harvest faces, like I said,

they had all the technology, all the stealth technology, and they only got a couple of faces. That doesn't seem like it was the purpose of the operation. Something else was going on in my estimation. Now, could it have been, and this is wild speculation, but could it have been human and non-human? Maybe a co-op of some kind? Maybe.

And I have some reasons that, you know, that why I think that could be, maybe. I'm not convinced that that's true, but maybe the possibility exists. We don't have time to go through that, but people can refer to my video on my YouTube channel where I talk about it. Wow, yeah, I mean, Tim, this is, this whole thing has been incredible to go over all the topics that we've covered. And believe it or not, I could cover even more with you,

but we'll put some things on the shelf for now, and hopefully I can have you back on another time if you don't mind. Yeah, we haven't even talked about the bugosphere. Yeah, right, exactly, yes. I mean, I was going to get into that. Vatican and demonic possession and all these different things. And so we'll have to shelve some of those things. Yeah, I've got other interesting projects.

I'm doing some on my own. I'm joining some other operations that are happening. They're UFO related in South America. I can't say more than that. But I'm always ongoing. I'm always got something cooking. Some expedition cooking. That's what I like to do.

I like to do field investigation. And people can follow me. By the way, if you want to follow along, I do events to conferences and other kinds of events as well, people might be interested in. Above all, I have a members community. So I go, you know, I reveal a lot more in my members community just because it's not public. It's a subscription community. And we talk about all kinds of things in that community. We do deep dives into different books, including my own book, Birthright. And if people are interested in that, they can sign up at the elberinoanalysis.com, the elbrinoanalysis.com. And follow me on social media

on X and on Instagram. I don't currently have a Facebook page, although everyone tells me I need one. So, but again, the videos on the Facebook stuff are on YouTube for those who are interested. But yeah, I'm always involved in some kind of an expedition. So people can track with me if they want. Yeah, absolutely.

And I'm glad you brought all that up and where people can find you, look for the books, look at what you're doing now, look at the work you have coming up in different conferences. So I'm glad you put all that out before we were done. because I was just about to ask you to do it. So you read my mind. Timothy Alborino, again, really appreciate it.

I'm glad we got to do this. It's something I've been looking forward to doing for a while to sit down and talk with you about all these subjects and topics. And hopefully we can stay in touch and catch up again soon to talk about even more. Certainly. Thank you, sir, for having me on your show. My pleasure. Timothy Albrino, thanks so much right here on UAP.

And there you have it. So ends the Timothy Alborino saga here on UAP. But I hope it's the first of many. I would love to have him back on again. As you heard there at the end, there were things that he wanted to get to that I wanted to get to. But we were speaking for over two hours that day. And he stayed even longer than he could. So he actually put his day on hold just to be able to speak about everything that we did speak about during this conversation.

So my eternal gratitude to Timothy Alborino for spending all that time here on UAP for us to, you know, cover all these subjects. as you heard, the way that he went in depth. I mean, he paints such a great picture about, you know, with the fine details about what was going on and what he found out happening in Peru. And you hear about that testimony from the 15 year old girl Talia. I mean, that terrifying encounter, disturbing details where she has these two. I mean, seemingly human men. That's the impression that I got. This didn't feel extraterrestrial to me.

And you kind of hear Tim echo that toward the end where, you know, he says he feels like this also was more human in nature with humans using advanced technology. And of course, leave you open the possibility that maybe there was some type of human extraterrestrial cooperation going on. We have no idea if that's the case, but it's at least, you know, worth keeping the door open on such a theory. We can't disprove it. But on the surface, it does feel like, and it does seem like with the details given there by Tim, as he investigated this, it gives the impression that this was some type of black ops human operation to kidnap these people, to terrify them, to use the face peeler legend like Tim was saying in order to kind of, you know, as their cover. And to what end? I have no idea. And that's one thing that we don't really know is to what end?

What are they trying to get to by feeding into this face peeler, you know, kind of urban legend within the communities there in Peru? And then actually following through with that. If this was a human-led operation, I mean, this is super disturbing. I mean, that's why I said in part one, this is the part that stuck with me after we were done. When I went home, there's a lot of times that when I'm done here in the studio, I kind of wrap it up and I mentally wrap it up as well. And I go home and I keep what I do here in the studio and at home for the most part separate. Sometimes topics carry over and, you know, becomes part of a discussion or something like that. But for the most part, I leave it in the studio so I can be present at home.

This was one of those things that stuck with me when I was at home. and I could not get. And it still has stuck with me here as we, you know, finish off this saga with Timothy Albarino. What was going on then? Something was happening. These people weren't imagining things. As you heard him say, it wasn't just in a, you know, small village on the edge of the jungle in Peru. This was happening in more populated areas in some of the bigger cities in Peru.

So this wasn't just isolated to, you know, these communities on the outskirts of, the jungle, this was happening in actual, you know, major cities. Maybe not Lima, but at least other major cities with larger populations and, you know, different resources and everything like that. So what was going on? Why was this happening? One thing that we spoke about that wasn't in this episode was that it's pretty much ended.

Once Tim got there with his team, it was, it pretty, it pretty, much ended at that point. Now, whether or not that's a coincidence or whether or not someone who was in charge of this operation decided, okay, you know, we're made. We have to kind of give up this endeavor, whatever we're doing. We're going to stop now because we're made and there are people here investigating it. I mean, honestly, your theory is as good as mine if you have a different one, but it was interesting to hear that the kidnappings and this phenomenon stopped. once Tim and his team actually got there. And you heard him mention Operation Resolute Sentinel, which I had never heard of that before either

when it came to U.S. and British forces and Peruvian forces and these other countries that he spoke about. And that's something that, you know, I actually want to kind of look into on my own time. Maybe that's something that we can all do. Look into Operation Resolute Sentinel in 2023 in Peru. What was going on there in the months of July, August, and September? and maybe even reaching into early October in 2023. You know, did that have something to do with it? He did say he noticed that maybe this is just circumstantial,

but he did notice that once that operation was ending and the forces were leaving, then this phenomenon was also ending. So not only did it coincide with his arrival there, but it also coincided with the departure of foreign forces in Peru for this cooperative, you know, operation exercise with Resolute Sentinel. Very, very odd details and circumstances.

And overall, extremely disturbing that something like this was going on because we have no idea why it was happening. Is it just some, you know, part of some type of black ops human smuggling operation? I don't know. But it is something that's, I hope we never hear about again that people don't have to go through because that is a terrifying ordeal that was. is going on in Peru. And I am happy that we were able to get those details here, finally, on UAP, from Timothy

Albrino himself, to hear about what he discovered there back in 2023 in Peru. Just, just unreal stuff. And it does sound like they're using some type of, you know, advanced tech, like some type of like Iron Man boots, you know, or these anti-gravidic boots that would, you know, use some type of anti-gravity technology to make these people float. And then they're using these disks that they're floating. on. So there's something going on there. And he did have an interesting point about the battery packs where people might have mistaken those for jet packs, right? Those original reports,

these jetpack miners, these miners that were using jet packs, you know, obviously he said he did not agree with that from his findings. So were these battery packs, that theory makes sense to me. That's these guys wearing some type of battery packs that were the power source for their anti-gravitic technology that they were using. Just very, very odd stuff. And this advanced acorn-like craft that people saw, this acorn-shaped craft where they actually saw two occupants inside because it had like this screen door-like see-through appearance,

you know, like type of transparency to it. So all these things adding up to some kind of black ops scenario where they're using this advanced technology, again, though, for whatever reason, I don't know. But it is very disturbing and it is very odd. There are things that go on, man. There are things that go on that we never hear about and we never see. Because it's true, I mean, the circumstances that we went over, if all that happened and all those things were being used and it's humans doing it,

then, of course, the implications there are the consequences are, enormous. You know, it's immeasurable how enormous the consequences are if stuff like that was really going on with these black ops teams using advanced technology, this stuff is, it's unbelievable. And it actually reminds me

of Michael Herrera's story from a few years ago. You know, actually within the same time frame, I think around like the 2023 area where Michael Herrera had his story as well, very similar in details with like some type of, you know, black op human smuggling operation that was going on. And we come to

out that that was more along the lines of people being used for experimentation in like, you know, like C.E5 type of experimentation and for psionics. I mean, so I don't know if that's what we're talking about here, you know, are we talking about some type of connection to what Michael Herrera says he experienced where people were being taken for psionic experiments? This stuff goes deep, man. This stuff goes really, really deep. And it's a very dark hole. And I'm not sure how far. go down because it's a very dangerous dark hole. And there's people there involved with the stuff that you don't want to mix around with. But my thing has always been here.

I just want to try to find the details to these stories as deep and as dark and as dangerous as they might be. I want to get those details out to you so we can discover these together and try to decide and make up our own minds about what is going on. And this is one of those things. So unreal. And that was the heavy stuff. The light stuff was the giants.

I mean, the fact that you look at the complexity of the true history of giants and the, as Tim put it, aggressive secrecy behind the giant lore. I mean, what is it about the history of giants that makes that secrecy so aggressive? For him to say that the people that he's spoken to, the people with knowledge of both the, you know, history. of giants and the UAP phenomenon, he says, they're more more readily, you know, readily available and willing to talk about aliens than they are giants. You know, he spoke about during this episode that he gets the signal they put their hand across their throat like, nope, not going there, don't bring it up when he brings up giants to them.

Really, really strange. That was the first time I heard from anybody about this aggressive secrecy that surrounds the history of giants. It's the biblical history. It is the archaeological history, maybe even. It's within ancient civilization texts about giants. It's very, very strange that you have all the secrecy surrounding what seems to be recorded history in some cases about giants. And, you know, we kind of made the leap there as we went down the road.

as we were talking, I started to think about, well, are giants essentially, you know, ancient demons? Is that, is that the secrecy here? And that's why people don't want to touch it. And that's actually where the conversation ended up going, that they are believed to be, you know, that their spirits are the origin of demons possibly. Is it the fallen angels to begin with, if we go back to, you know, mixing in biblical script? here of the Old Testament where you find writings about giants of obviously Goliath being the most famous one with David and Goliath. But then you have this, this, you know, history of the Nephilim and the Watchers. Now, of course, that's not canon. We're talking about the book of

Enoch at that point. But if the Watchers were the start of it all, they come down, they mate with female humans. And then you have the Nephilim and then you have this race of giants and you have the Great Flood and you have all these different things and how they all mix together. Were the watchers in the Book of Enoch, think of the Book of Enoch, whatever you will, but it was part of the conversation here, are those the fallen angels? Their pride makes them fall from heaven because they want to be greater than God, right? We all remember the stories from the Bible. So are those the watchers in the Book of Enoch, right?

I mean, their sin of pride brings them down to earth. Their lust for human women brings them. them down to earth and they become like, you know, these demigod-like beings and is that the origin of demons? When it comes to these giants, they're cursed. They're cursed by God because they come from these unclean spirits that came to earth and made it with humans. It's wild stuff.

I mean, to me, the connections are there and it makes sense if we want to make these leaps, if we want to talk about, you know, kind of in that realm of things with giants, obviously not really connected to the UAP topic, but still we're talking about ancient mysteries here. And that's kind of the stuff that, you know, sometimes I like to venture into just in the overall picture of ancient mysteries. That's definitely one of them. But one final thought on that, because I wrote down this note, I found it interesting. Going back to Father Chad Rippaker, remember if I had some of his clips on here during the

three-part series, the good, the bad, and the others. Father Chad Rippiger was somebody who was talking about the connection of demonic possession and gray aliens. And I've kind of gone down a rabbit hole with some of his studies and some of his, some of his interviews lately and his public speaking, because I find the topic fascinating. And he spoke about how in some of these exorcisms that he's done, these demons are able to, you know, have the grasp of ancient languages. In some cases, languages like Phoenician. And when I thought about that and what Tim was talking about with these, you know, these

lore of the ancient giants and how they might be connected to, you know, these demonic spirits, I started thinking, well, are we talking about then when we talk about possessions and demons, are they just literally coming from these spirits of ancient giants? And that's what demons are. and that's what demonic possession is, is these ancient giants, these ancient beings who lived a long time ago and would have knowledge of thousands of years ago, like, you know, the Phoenician language.

So that was something that kind of popped into my head just separately because that was a clip I was watching just separately outside of UAP, but it connected to what I was hearing here during this interview where I was like, huh, you know, that is interesting. He's talking about how these demons have this great knowledge of ancient languages

is, well, you know, these giants were around a long time ago. And if that's the case, if they were unclean spirits and cursed by God to be, you know, these wraiths, what turns in, you know, to demons is another terminology for it. Then maybe that's what we're looking at. We're looking at the origin of demons. Very, very interesting stuff. I'm sorry if I lose you on some of that, but I can't help but to be fascinated by it. And hopefully you are too.

And as you can see, there was a mix, a huge mix of things. a big potluck of topics here as I spoke to Timothy Albarino, which is why now you see I wanted to split this up into two parts. And I hope you're okay with that now once we're all set and done. But yeah, just unbelievable stuff. And I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did to ponder on all these topics over these last two parts this week with Timothy Albarino. So thank you again to him so much for all his time and expertise on the subject. But with all that in mind, there is one more thing that I want to mention here. It's an important message because it actually comes from a message from a listener who pointed out something that Tim had said in part one when we were

talking about the Book of Enoch and the origins and why it might have been left out of the traditional Bible when I asked him that question about, you know, can you theorize in why the book of Enoch might have been left out? You know, of course, the easy answers, well, maybe, you know, just didn't fit in with the biblical narrative that the scholar's thoughts was true, right? So when I asked him that question, he gave his answers and went over some different suggestions. But there was something he said in there that rubbed some people the wrong way. So I do want to address that because I want to apologize on his behalf. It's never my intention.

I'm sure it wasn't Tim's intention either to offend anybody in any of the answers that he gave during these two episodes of UAPs. So to the person who messaged me and to anybody maybe who felt offended for any reason, reason during these episodes. Hopefully you didn't, but I do want to apologize on his behalf and here for UAP because it's never the intention here of the show to make anybody feel less than or, you know, left out or marginalized or picked on or anything like that at all. It's never the intention here on UAP to do that. So if anyone felt that way, especially, you know, reaching out to the person and sent me the message, you know who you are, then I apologize that that was something that didn't sit well with you. And I know it's not something that's, you know,

Tim was trying to do in his answers. So I am sorry for that. And that is one of the things thought that I love about UAP. I mean, is that we can come together. That is the goal of UAP, which is, has always been, of course, the obvious to investigate this topic and try to find the answers to, you know, to look at the stories and the details of all these stories and try to find those answers together, make up our own mind on it. But, you know, the unconscious effort of UAP is it brings us all together, right? It doesn't really matter where you come from societally or politically or racially or, you know, whatever. Socioeconomic background.

It really doesn't matter. We all have the same questions. And that's what I love about this. And that's what I love about investigating this topic is that it reaches everyone, whether you have, you know, $100 million of the bank or you have $1,000 of the bank or whatever it is, it brings everybody together to ask the questions that we all have. And so if anybody feels, you know, offended by an answer that was given at some point, that's never the intention here on UAP.

So I do apologize for that. And at the same time, I also don't want to censor my guests because I ask the question, they give their answers. So, but obviously if it doesn't land well with someone, that I do want to address that and say that's, I apologize for the way something might have been said. during the course of one of these episodes, and that happened in part one when discussing the Book of Enoch. So just wanted to get that out there and address that. So hopefully we can still continue to come together here on UAP and enjoy. And I hope you enjoy these two parts. And there

is a lot more to get into coming up. Next week is God willing, episode 200. That is on the docket. And I can't wait to do it because we're going to bring back one of our favorite guests here. I know everybody loves hearing from him. And it's been a while since he was on. There's only one way we could do episode 200. There's only one way we can celebrate 200 episodes of UAP. And that is with our good friend Anthony Williams. Anthony Williams is going to come back next week right here on UAP.

Of course, our good old military intelligence insider, one of the most knowledgeable minds to this day that I've come across. And I've come across a lot of people now over the past five years, a lot more than I had just a few years ago, just a couple of years ago. And still to this day, Anthony Williams is one of, if not the most knowledgeable minds on this subject because of what he has come across as a military intelligence analyst. And he's going to come back. He's coming back to us next week for episode 200. So I cannot wait to bring him back. There is a huge amount of stuff to get to with him.

things that I haven't even mentioned here on UAP on purpose because I wanted to wait for him to be a guest and we're going to do that next week. But before that on episode 199, we're going to bring on Ryan Sprague from Somewhere in the skies podcast. There's a lot that we're going to get to with him as well, just a lot of the current topics in uphology that Ryan has been covering, you know, along with what we do here on UAP, that we're going to kind of put our heads together and have a discussion on all the big topics surrounding neufology.

So a big week coming next week right here on UAP. So make sure you are sticking around. You're subscribing to the show wherever you get your podcasts, all the big channels, and check out UAP on YouTube to search UAP podcast there and follow along on social media at UA Podcast 850 to get all the latest updates

and see what we're doing on Twitter and TikTok and all the good stuff. Instagram at UAPE podcast 850. So on that note, we'll bring this one to a close today. in this two-part saga with Timothy Albarino. Really hope you enjoyed it all. A lot to consider, that is for sure. And can't wait to come back with more soon here on UAP.

So thank you all again for everything, for all the support, for always coming back. It really does mean the world to me. So until next time, it's Stephen Deaneer here saying, be well, thanks so much. Talk again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast.