UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 203 Month in Review: Recapping the Major Events from April

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Did you miss the big moments on UAP this month? Or maybe just need a refresher on all of the important events that took place? Well, welcome to the month in review. Stephen Diener starts off this new feature where we recap all of the major statements and compelling stories that we heard over the course of the months episodes. With how fast the news cycle goes these days, it is easy to let some of these things fall through the cracks...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, we're back. Welcome back into UAP. Stephen Dean here with you, as always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast. This time for episode number 203 as we continue to move forward here. And I'm happy to be back with you as we close out the month of April, which is just insane to me. I'm sure you as well, how we are already getting into May, almost half the year. Wow. But anyway, nothing to dwell too much on how fast time is moving. But actually, that's kind of the theme here today, funny enough, for this episode.

what I would like to do here is to try to start something new. Hopefully I can keep up with this as the months go on. That's the idea anyway. That is the intention as I start this off here for the first time is to do a month in review because time moves so fast. Because this conversation, specifically the UAP conversation is such a fast-paced moving discussion these days. There's something every day that happens a new topic, a new soundbite, a new subject or interview. that comes up every single day within this conversation

that sometimes I feel like after I do an episode and it's something that is really compelling, it's something that I find to be really important and I was excited to get out. And what I find that happens a lot of the time is, it's like, okay, here it is. And then two or three days later, it goes, okay, now here's this.

And that cycle continues to go. And I feel like sometimes a lot of those things that, you know, we spent a lot of time, on that I found to be very important and really intriguing to get out there is just within a few days forgotten because we moved on to the next thing. And I don't like that. I mean, you know, if it was important then, it should still be important now, even though we do have to move forward in the conversation. We can't continue to dwell on the same thing over and over and over again. I mean, that's what I try to do here. I try to keep things moving, keep things going forward to

keep you up to date on everything that's happening. But sometimes I feel like it's beneficial. to just stop for a second, sit down, reflect on what we did, on what we learned, on what we spoke about, especially over now over this past month. And so with that thought in mind, that is something that has bothered me over time where I just feel like some of these things that we talk about end up getting pushed to the wayside because it's so fast-paced. So what I want to try to do, again, starting this month, is this month in review. And we'll start with, you know, right now for the month of April because there was a lot that happened here on UAP that is absolutely worth looking back on.

And as we finish out here, after the look back, well, we'll look forward to what's coming up in May and try to forecast a little bit. Maybe, you know, prognosticated a little bit on some things that we may end up seeing. Maybe, you know, some things that we don't even have planned. Topics and conversations, news that might come up here in the new month of May. So we'll do all that here today as we put it together here on UAP for this episode 203. And on this look back here for the month of April, we'll start with, well, how the month began, which was with Timothy Albarino. And it was my honor to finally be able to make that happen because this is a guy that, you know, really goes around the world, speaking at different conferences, goes around the world investigating different UFO cases.

He's, you know, someone who has really looked at, and rightfully so, as a. legit, very legit figure in this conversation. I'm sure, you know, you're probably pretty familiar with Timothy Alberino at this point, especially after the first two episodes that we did together, or I should say the two-part episode. And by the way, if you missed any of these, because I'm going to play a couple of clips from these episodes that are worth, you know, that I wanted to specifically pick out and look back on in recap and review. But if you missed any of these episodes, you could always, of course, go back and listen to them in full. But as we begin this month or new view, this was from part one, this clip here with Timothy

Albarino during this over hour long conversation in part one. This clip here where he was speaking about, it was in the middle of our conversation regarding interdimensional beings. What is that? What is an interdimensional being? And he ended up telling us a story that has. stuck with me since I heard it over this past month about a friend of his who says he actually saw a portal open up while he was driving down the road. Listen to this story, just to recap on this

one. It's absolutely worth remembering this part here from our discussion with Timothy Albarino. I have a friend that he told me this wild encounter he had with some UFOs. He said he was driving down a road in California. He driving home. He's driving home. from work routine it's the middle of the day and it was a highway and as he's driving along he's he notices a billboard he looks over at the billboard it catches his attention it says he's looking at this billboard he sees i forget it was above or next it there's above the billboard this portal opens up like a circle just opens up right like in a marvel movie just circle opens up he saw this he saw it wow and he just you know he just sort of took his foot off the gas and he's just staring

at this and he said he could see a different atmosphere through that circle in the sky so it was our atmosphere but it was like looking through a hole in the sky and it was a different atmosphere and then i forget if it was two or three flying saucers came shooting out of it so they came from whatever that atmosphere was into our atmosphere and then the thing closed the portal closed so very very marvel-esque, right? Yeah, right. Experience that he had there. And when he told me that, I found that to be very intriguing because the question in

my mind is, what was that other atmosphere? Because there's various different possibilities. Could have been some other part of the earth. So if you're over here where I live in Montana, it's very gray and rainy right now, if a portal opened up to, let's say, Arizona, where it's where it's, where it's dry and sunny, that would look very different in the sky. I'd be looking at Arizona's dry, sunny atmosphere in contrast to my gray rainy atmosphere. Right. So that's one possibility. Man, it's still such a wild story to think about. And you hear him say at the end of the clip,

you know, where he goes, and that's one possibility. And I do want to touch on why he said that just real quick. But I also just want to point out, because I said, you know, a month in review of April, I do want to give a special shout out to Christopher Sharp. You know, I would love to recap that episode as well, but that episode actually aired on March 31st. So if you're wondering, hey, maybe wasn't that April, or maybe it felt like the beginning of April because it came out in the last day of March.

Technically, it came out in the last day of March, so because it didn't come out in April, I didn't include it in the month in review. I know I'm kind of splitting Harris there. But that episode with Christopher Sharp from the Daily Mail and the Liberation Times. If you didn't hear that, that was the best, in my almost five years of doing the show, that interview was the best look into the underbelly of secrecy that surrounds the UAP topic

within the U.S. government. I mean, it was just an incredible look behind the curtain that I learned so much from it and actually disturbed me how much I learned during that episode that it stuck with me for about a week, some of the things that kind of stuck in my brain from that episode because of how deep the secrecy and how, you know, how big the web is. And we really had a great in-depth discussion on that. So if you did not hear that episode with Christopher Sharp that came out on March 31st, I highly, highly suggest you listen to that to get a really clear look of how this secret is kept behind the scenes for as long as it has been kept.

It's just unreal and disturbing. And so I just wanted to put that out there and why I wasn't recapping that one specifically here today. But when it comes to that part there from Timothy Albarino, there's so many clips that I could have chosen from this part one episode. And by the way, the same goes from every episode here that we're going to recap. There are so many different clips that I could choose from. But I wanted to pick stuff out that stuck out in my mind personally.

And hopefully that's something that can relate to you as well when you heard these episodes. And that portion there was one of the things that stuck out to me where he speaks about his friend who's driving along and sees this portal open up by a billboard and these UFOs start coming up. And you even heard him say, or coming out of the portal, you even heard him say it sounds very marvel-esque. And it does. It sounds like something that you would see in Avengers where, you know, the portal opens up over New York and Loki comes out with all the different creatures and all these different aliens. I mean, it sounds like something from a movie. And that was a topic and that was a discussion that I, admittedly, I did not get to elaborate on nearly enough during that discussion. I really wanted to pin down that conversation, that part of the conversation a little bit more with Tim, but unfortunately I didn't get to. And maybe that's why it's kind of stuck with me because just that idea that somebody saw that, you know, one of the questions I wanted to ask was, and I didn't get to, well, did anybody else see it?

I mean, was he driving alone on this road? Was it a busy road? Was it a, you know, I had a lot of questions from that one thing. And it just, it has stuck with me ever since. But, you know, one thing that he spoke about in relation to the interdimensional being aspect of that conversation, where he said that could be one, you know, that's option one, where he's talking about seeing into a different part of this world. Is that a portal that is opening up from a different part of the world? where you're seeing another part of the earth,

you know, hence the blue sky that his friend said that he saw in this portal, versus, you know, looking into another portion of another world, right? If you're seeing the surface of Mars is something that he went on to say. You see a red planet or you see, you know, is this brownish, reddish-looking sky? Okay, is that Mars? Is this portal being opened up from another part of the galaxy, another part of the universe? or option three would be something truly interdimensional. And that's something that we really got into in that first part,

which is what does interdimensional even mean? And maybe that's in the eye of the beholder, no pun intended. And, you know, we kind of settled on it being a matter of perception, whereas, you know, we only can perceive so much on the visual spectrum and in our 3D world. You know, is there a fourth and fifth dimension that we can't perceive? And it's just out there. And maybe that's where these portals are coming from is from our world or a version of it just in a dimension of this same world that we can't perceive.

I know it's super heady, but that's some of the fun that, you know, we like to have here on UAP. We don't shy away from the heady conversations. But that was one part of the Timothy Alborino conversation that did stick out in my mind that I thought was worth recapping here today on this month in review. Make 2026 your year with Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee, Brooke Linnon, and Kylie. But what if people haven't heard about your brand? Well, Shopify helps you find your customers with easy-to-run email and social media campaigns.

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in that part too because really I could have done three parts easily easily could have done three parts for that Timothy Albarino's conversation but I didn't want to draw it out too much I wanted to try to package it together for you and you know get that out in a two-part series and as as highly intriguing as I found the conversation surrounding the history of giants because there was a I mean a lot there even more that I thought because I always knew just from my reading that there is plenty of evidence. If you just look at the Bible alone, even outside of other historical documents,

if you look at the Bible alone, there's plenty of evidence for the historical truth of giants. But there was even more than I realized, as Tim went into it, such as actual archaeological evidence that he has come across and people that have told him about and how, you know, that's like the one secret that they can't reveal is giants.

whatever reason. They can talk about aliens all day, but they won't talk about giants. It was a very, very strange part of the conversation that I did not see coming. But man, it's something that has absolutely, you know, stuck in my mind. So again, you could always go back and listen to these if you'd like to. If you didn't get to hear those or if you want to hear some of those parts again on your own time. But the clip that I picked out here goes back to the face peelers. And I did that because this was the reason, this story about the face peelers was the reason why I wanted to reach out, or I wanted to have Timothy Albarino on this show for the past three years,

was because of what was happening in Peru just a few years ago about these villagers who were talking about these beings who are coming in dressed in all black on these anti-gravity discs flying up and abducting people, peeling their faces off as grotesque as that is. I know I apologize, but those were the reports about what was happening. And there was actual physical evidence to prove that bodies were being found that way. Again, as grotesque as that is. But it was happening.

And Timothy Alborino was the guy, the only guy to go out there. I mean, I should say him and his team, but the only guy to go out there and actually physically investigate this where it was happening in Peru. And I finally got to broach that subject with him. And this was one part of that conversation that I wanted to bring back here today during this month in review. So on one occasion, there's this 15-year-old girl named Talia who was in her backyard. And by the way, all the incursions would happen after dark. Right.

Always after. The blend in in the dark suits. This 15-year-old girl, she was out in her backyard. at dusk. She was knocking down some fruit from her tree and to make a drink and the fruit hits the ground. She bends over to pick it up and she notices that there, she felt a wind at her back and the, in the leaves sort of rustled around and she looked over and I should say that in her backyard, she's in the middle of the village or she's not on the very outstards of the village. There's other houses around, right? Other other dwellings are around their dwelling.

But in between there's like this gauly, this forested gauly. So there's jungle in there, and it's in her house, it dips down. And then when it climbs back up, there's other houses around, right? So when she bent over to pick up this fruit and she felt this breeze, she looked over and she saw one of these guys surfing on one of these platforms. And he flew up, that's where the wind was coming from. He flew up next to her. And he landed right behind her.

and he landed his disc and he grabbed her by the mouth. And he had a glove on. He grabbed her by the mouth and by the waist. She is securely in the arms of this guy. But she saw another guy directly after fly up this hill on the platform, landed in front of her and grabbed her feet. So now she's being held by these two guys. And then she described their body armor.

It's actually pretty interesting. They had armor on their chest, armor on their shoulders. there wasn't all hard. Like there were a segment, it was segmented. Okay. Like the Green Goblin. Yeah, right. Right. I keep referring to that because it's very accurate.

I said, when they took off, how did they do that? Did they activate any kind of like a mechanism? Did they press a button? Did they have anything in their hands? She said they didn't have anything in their hands. But after they grabbed her, they both reached down and press something on their boot to re-engage the technology, to float off of the discs, right? So they re-engage the technology.

Now they're floating holding her, and they float her over to behind this little chicken coop, this grass roof, thatched roof chicken coop, beyond her house. And they land, and remember, they got her by the mouth. And without going through all the details, it would take me 20 minutes to tell this story in great detail. They put some cream on her face. First, they shot something up her nose with the nasal syringe, and that made her feel disoriented. Then they smeared cream on her face. and she said that when they put the cream on her face,

her face went numb, instantly went numb. And she heard them talking in Spanish. One of them had a gringo accent, and the other one sounded like a Peruvian. And she said that one of them said to the other, be careful, be careful, don't put too much on. You're going to ruin the flesh. And she understood that as when they went to cut her face off,

that it would make it harder if they put too much of this cream on. And then they took out what we think was a laser scalpel. And they began to make an incision under her neck. In fact, they made two incisions because they were too high and then they went lower. They were too low and then they started going higher. And while they started to do this, it looks like a laser. While they started to do this, she reached behind her and she started to push up the helmet of the guy holding her from behind. She was starting to lift up his helmet.

And he sort of freaked out because he didn't want her to see his face. Yeah. And so the guy in front of her slapped her in the face. And during this commotion, they dropped her. And when they momentarily lost control of her. And so she screamed. She let out one blood-curdling scream. And you have to remember, this wasn't the first incursion.

So the villagers are already doing patrols. They're sitting on their front porches with their shotguns. So when they heard her scream in their flashlights, when they heard her scream, they were on scene pretty quick. her brother and some other villagers who were in the vicinity, their homes were in the vicinity. They were on scene, like in 30 seconds. Wow. And so after she screamed, one of the assailants said,

let's go, let's go. We have to get out of here. And the other one said, no, we can't just leave her here. And he grabbed her by the hair and was dragging her, flying on his disc, dragging her up the hill. But like as if they wanted to lift her up by her hair, but the villagers were on scene too quick, so they let her go. When the villagers got there, they told me what they saw, unsurprisingly, were two guys surfing on disks.

Yeah. And they saw Talia laying on the ground, blood in blood on her face. And the two guys on the discs, when the villagers approached them, they just shot up into the sky. Really? Up to the trees. Wow. This was a testimony of Talia and her brother and other villagers who were there. Man, hearing again, that story still gets me.

It's incredible there. Again, the whole two-part series with Timothy Albrino, we could always go back and listen to the entire conversation well over two hours between the two parts. So by all means, if you'd like to go back and listen or if you haven't heard it, then just search it out, obviously. It'll be there on the episode list. But that is one portion of it that really did resonate with me

because, again, that was, to get that backstory was the main reason why I wanted to have on the story. Timothy Albarino in the first place. Everything else was just a cherry on top bonus during the, you know, the two, over two hour conversation that we had. And I'd love to have him on again because there was still so much left, so much meat left on the bone that we could have gone through on so many other topics that I would love to be able to schedule something with him again in the future. So hopefully that's something that we can do. But again, that is a story that is worth reviewing, worth recapping, because we're talking about some type of, you know, smuggling

In my opinion, you know, that's what I took away from that story when we were talking about it. And when you hear that clip, again, I know that's in a small dose. But that was my main takeaway after the entire conversation was we were hearing the reports of some type of human, advanced, human smuggling operation using advanced technology. That's what it comes down to. And as unbelievable as that sounds, you know, why? Right? We have to ask that question. well, you can't just say something like that.

There has to be a reason why that would be happening. I don't know the answer to it. You can hypothesize if you want. Scare tactics, drug trafficking, genetics. I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine. But if you want to believe what Tim was putting out there, if you want to believe what the villagers were reporting that they were going through,

then you have to look at the details that were being given in the story. and if we're going to believe those details, then we have to come to some type of conclusion as to what was going on. And if we're crossing that bridge, then my conclusion is that we're looking at some type of operation, black-op's thing going on there with advanced technology.

Obviously, some type of anti-gravity technology being used. He used the comparison throughout the episode of like the Green Goblin and Spider-Man, using the hovercraft there. That's essentially what they were flying on. And he also mentioned during the conversation that they were using some type of boots that would make them float. Again, presumably some type of anti-gravity technology that would make them float up in the air and they could move that way just floating through the air to give that effect of maybe some type of alien.

They're in this black suit. They have elongated helmets on. So they really do look like the green goblin from Spider-Man, just in all-black instead of green, obviously. And even flying a similar type of craft, according to the reports. So if we're looking for some type of finality on that, it sounds like what was happening in Peru three years ago. For some reason was some type of black ops operation happening to gain something from these villagers in Peru. It's scary. It's evil. It's diabolical. If that's what was going on. But you heard it there. And that's why I wanted to recap on that clip because it's just so unbelievable. And it's something that you don't hear about really in many other places. So there you go. Very much worth the recap here on the month and review. And that's why, again, my whole idea behind this was, I don't want to just leave these things there. The episode comes out and then it's just left there. It's very much worth bringing these up again to remember what was said here.

These stories are really important. And that brings us to our next part, actually, which was the next episode in the month of April. And that came to us from Ryan Sprague. Someone again who was really excited to talk to, I've kept up on his, you know, work, actually, through his podcast. He has been in this longer than I have where he does his podcast called Somewhere in the Skies. He does TV work. He does work on other podcasts with other hosts. So Ryan Sprague was someone that I've paid attention to just as a consumer in this field, even before I started.

So it was really cool to finally connect with him. A really fun guy, really knowledgeable, has a wealth of information within this topic. And just has incredible recall as well, which if you heard the entire episode, you'll know what I'm talking about. because this one, the object of that episode was origin stories. I really wanted to sit down and cover a lot of the big origin stories surrounding modern day uphology and even beforehand, things that are forgotten, right? Reason why I'm doing this to begin with as well is to look at some of these stories that are forgotten over time. And that's what I wanted to do with Ryan Sprague, and we did that.

We spoke about the Phoenix Lights. We spoke about from 1997. we spoke about the Westall School in 1966, I believe it was, yeah, because this was the 60th anniversary. That was a school in Australia that had an incredible UFO sighting, one that doesn't get talked about enough these days because it was 60 years ago. And many more that we spoke about in that episode. But toward the end, I asked him a question. I said, what is one story out of all the many stories that we take in and that we've investigated over the years. What is one story that really sticks out to you that does not get nearly the

amount of tension that you think it should get? And he brought up one actually that I was hoping he was going to bring up because I completely agreed with him, which was a story out of Iran back in the 70s. Here's where he explains it. But yeah, in 1976, the case in Tehran where Air Force pilots were sent up to pursue a craft, a diamond-shaped craft in the sky. And these documents, they read like a science fiction novel. I'm not kidding you. It's crazy. The general at the time, Parviz Traffari, he sent two pilots up.

They tried to pursue this thing. Their instruments failed. They got scared of what they were seeing. And they highted it back to the military base. And Parviz Jafari was like, okay, I'm going to go up there. Like you guys are whatever. I got this. And he went up and same thing, man.

All of his instruments started to fail. His weapons wouldn't work. He couldn't lock a target on this thing and nothing like that. And it's a crazy case. The way he played cat and mouse with this diamond-shaped craft up there. And he would eventually come back to the base, report what he had seen. And they didn't even get off the tarmac. and there were already federal agents and stuff from the United States there.

Wow. In Tehran. I mean, yeah. Well, 76, right, it's pre-IrGC, so right. Exactly. And we were lending them aircraft at the time. Right. And the fact that something was out maneuvering and shutting down the weapons on one of the U.S.'s aircraft.

True. They probably were a little alarmed. And they questioned this guy like crazy after this. and he would eventually go on to testify at the National Press Club about this event. You can read his entire story in Leslie Kane's book on UFOs, or go to John Greenwald's Black Vault. He's got all the files that I have and more on this case. So I highly suggest people look into it.

Probably one of the most incredible, if not the most documented, at least, pursuits of a UFO by a military ever. Exactly, right. And thank you to Ryan Sprague again for coming on during that episode. That was episode number 199 there of UAP. But he's exactly right about that case out of Tehran in the 70s. It really is one of the best documented military chase accounts ever. You know, we always, not that it was a chase, but we always think about Rendell Shim

or we always think about Roswell or all these different, you know, accounts having to do with the military. But for whatever reason, this case out of Tehran doesn't really get, brought up too much. And this was almost like a dogfight that a military jet had with a diamond shaped UFO. By the way, and this was an important point, he pointed out, a U.S. made military jet. So, you know, at this point, it was about as high tech as you could get. You had U.S. jets and Russian jets. Those were the most high tech you could get in the 70s, and probably still today with the addition to probably China. But that's, you're talking about the highest of the high tech in the 70s not being able to match up reportedly, according to these military members at the time in Iran, saying that they couldn't do anything against this diamond-shaped UFO that they say they were going up against.

And that is something that should be spoken about. That is something that should be noticed. We can't take that lightly. This is a very much accounted for story that doesn't get a lot of attention, which is why I'm glad he brought it up, which is why I wanted to bring it up here. again today during this month of reviews. So thank you to Ryan's break for doing that. And if you haven't looked into that one, I can't, I don't know what number episode it was because it was so long ago, but I did do an episode of that or on that occurrence way back when maybe within, I would guess probably somewhere within the first 30 episodes, maybe of you AP. So if you want to go back

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But that takes us to episode 200. Yes, we had the big celebration this month. Can't go this episode talking about the month of April without acknowledging the big milestone of episode number 200. And I said it then and I'll say it again now. That's because of you. So thank you all for helping me get there. to episode 200 of UAP. But yes, that did happen this month.

And we celebrated it the way it should be celebrated by bringing back on our good friend, Anthony Williams, to go into some of the biggest topics that happened in April, which included in episode 200, the missing at that point when we spoke, the missing

10 or killed scientists or military officials, we spoke about that in great length. And also the 46 videos that has seemingly gone by the wayside and that was in episode 201 so we'll recap both of those starting with episode 200 that celebratory episode where we did talk about the missing scientists and military officials or those who have been found dead and at one point during our discussion on that episode 200

anthony williams gave his i guess you could say synopsis or i'm trying to think of the best word to use here. His best theory, according to the information that he has and his background on what might be happening here with those that have gone missing or who have been killed. And believe it

or not, Anthony's analysis here is that he leans toward this being a U.S. government or at least legacy program type of operation to take these people out.

that's a theory that some people may may not agree with, but here's the reasoning that Anthony gave. My personal, you know, belief just based on what I know, within foreign adversaries, the more common thing to see is if there is someone that is identified to be a key player and a capability or an effort that may be counter to what a nation wants, For instance, if we identified that, let's go back to World War II, let's not use any current examples, but if we go back to World War II and we identify that there is a certain German scientist that seems to be the lead effort

or the key contributor like Oppenheimer to helping the Germans create a nuclear weapon, then that would be a target. Not so much for us to capture and exploit what he knows, but the quicker, more effective method would be to eliminate that individual so that we can halt or slow or delay progress that our adversary may take in that way. To actually kidnap, capture, detain, and exploit, that is also a key tactic. if you go back to 9-11, some of the first terrorists that we went after were people that we wanted to glean information from to understand how that terrorist network operated, how they functioned, how they worked to get into their operation cycles so we could help dismantle it and restore safety to our nation and to any Western country that was targeted by those organizations. So eliminating the threat,

someone to exploit what they know. In this example, and I hate to tie it to popular culture, but if you think about the train station at Yellowstone, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding a lot of hope that these missing people are going to turn up safe and sound and just on a walkabout out in the woods,

reconnecting with nature. I don't hold a lot of hope. I think they're missing until we find them. And when we do, I don't think it's going to be favorable. And so again, that's just a little piece of the conversation that we had about that. And, you know, his, again, Anthony's analysis really kind of leaned toward maybe this being an inside operation here within the United States. Now, that might be a controversial opinion.

But you heard kind of the comparing and the contrasting there that Anthony was doing, which was looking at how we've gone after foreign adversaries or how foreign adversaries would go after us. and the different strategies that would be used in order to get those things done. And what has been done in the past versus what is happening now. And throughout the course of the conversation, you could kind of hear where he was leaning. And the assumption, the conclusion anyway that his analysis led to was that this might be more of a U.S. or legacy program-led operation. to take people out who want to talk or who have too much information about the programs and about recovery efforts and about retrieval and about reverse engineering efforts or even successful efforts of reverse engineering to take these people out within,

or, you know, orders coming from within the legacy programs to remove these people, either by extraction or by elimination, so that way they won't talk. You know, maybe that there was some type of indication that they showed they would be a threat to the secrecy that the legacy programs continue to maintain over the past 80 years. And so that's kind of where Anthony landed, which is obviously startling if something like that is going on,

but it's not the first time that we would see something like this. This goes back to the early Cold War. War days. Listen, you know, there's speculation that this has been going on for a long time in different areas. Let's just look at it now, current day, you know, versus going back 60 years ago to early Cold War days. Now we have these 10 who have turned into, by some estimations, 13. In fact, since we put out that episode, that episode 200, just a couple of weeks ago, since then, It's been said by Eric Burleson, actually just today, as I'm doing this, Eric Burleson has put out on social media. He's using the number 13 missing or killed scientists or military officials.

He's now using that number. Some people still say 11. They've added in Amy Escarriage. Of course, you're probably familiar with her story. I covered her story not too long ago here on UAP, where she was said to be studying anti-gravitic technology at the Propulsion Center. in Huntsville, Alabama. She said that her life was in danger, and sure enough, she comes up, you know, dead, unfortunately. And they've added her there, even though hers goes back to 2022.

And now you have Matthew Sullivan. That's something that has taken place over the past week or so. And that one hit home personally, kind of for me, because Matthew Sullivan was somebody that Eric Burleson, speaking of him, did bring up here on the show, but not by name. About six months ago, Eric came on here. and said that they were looking in, he and Eric Rush were looking into this, a possible suspicious death tied to someone who they were trying to bring in to testify, someone who was reportedly connected to the legacy programs, who had inside information who worked on the real

inside, you know, stuff of the legacy programs, actually had his hands on crash retrieval, according to these reports that Eric is putting out there. and that ended up being Matthew Sullivan that we learned now over the past week or so, and they ended up finding him dead from a supposed drug overdose. And now they're even talking about another scientist connected to, you know, the space programs who has been found dead. I believe from a Tesla, I believe that Tesla burned and he was found dead inside the Tesla. It's a terrible story.

So because of that now, the number is being put at 13 by some, including Eric Burleson. And so this continues to grow even ever since that episode 200, which just came out on April 17th. It's not that long ago. It's just a couple of weeks. And within that couple of weeks, we've added three more to that total of 10, which was where it was at when we recorded that episode with Anthony Williams. So it's startling. It's scary. But it's happening. One way or another, something is going on. And these people are whining up dead or missing. And also even coming out today worth adding on here to the discussion as we recap all of this here for this month. Cash Patel, the FBI director, has come out in an interview today to say that they are looking

into these cases. He says that they are state by state cases, but they're looking to see, and this is a quote here, looking to see if there is any connections, and we're going to have a final report here in short order. So that's Cash Patel's quote, the director of the FBI, and actually goes to, just to bring up the name again, Eric Burles. and he has come out recently saying that he was trying to gain answers from the FBI to figure out what is going on with these cases. He was trying to say, hey, look, are you guys looking into this?

And can you tell me something about it? What is happening to these people? And according to now Cash Patel, the FBI director, they're going to come out with a final report on what they're finding. Hopefully we learn some actual information here. Hopefully we're not, you know, talking about this report once it comes out and criticizing it as some type of possible cover-up. I really, really, really hope that's not the case. But if it is the case, that might play into what we were just talking about with Anthony Williams' analysis. So this is an ever-evolving story that continues to gain a lot of attention nationwide and even internationally,

and one that I'm going to continue to try to keep up on and cover here on UAP. But that's where it stands right now and what we were looking at then just a couple weeks ago. And that brings us to our final recap of the day here for the month. of April from episode 201 and that's not to you know not not to skip over episode 202 and so just a quick shout out there if you didn't get to listen

to it it's the most recent episode so I didn't feel like I really needed to go back and cover that one you know recap it in depth with EJ and John the married couple there who were talking about their UFO tracker technology they're trying to make people more aware of

and even their own stories having to do the supernatural and alien abduction really cool stuff from them in that most previous episode. So if you didn't hear it, it just came out, you know, like I said, about last week or so. So if you didn't hear that, that was episode 202. But the one that I want to finish off here on today, just on the recap, since it wasn't the most recent one, was episode 201. And that was part two with Anthony Williams. And during that part two, we spoke about the 46 videos that were still waiting to see, by the way, this list that was put out requested by.

Eric Burleson, by Annapolina Luna, by Timberchette, and the Oversight Committee to the Pentagon, directly addressed to Pete Hegseth, to Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, and to other head honchos, if you will, to gain information to declassify not only videos, but documents as well that detail videos or occurrences, sightings that were seen by U.S. military pilots. And here's a little clip from that episode where Anthony actually talks about some of the things that are on those videos that we haven't seen yet because guess what? He has seen them and we covered those in depth here on episode 201. Here's a little bit of that. Definitely worth looking back on here. This one stands out to me. Number seven on the

list, Anthony, it says uap, a spherical UAP pulsing over water jacker to X. Is anything there that's you can shed some light on yeah so the the the color pulsing which is observed in the video also aligns with the report on that where it was actually fading in and out of different colors so not only is it pulsing and brightness but it's shifting between a green hue to a red hue to an orange hue to a white hue so it's it's changing colors as well and you can see the color then this isn't like a, you know, like some type of black and white. You can't see the color. You can't see the color in the video, but the pilot flying that could see it in real time, that is so that correlates with that report.

So that's, that's really, really intriguing. It's very compelling because you're talking about multiple different colors that don't match FAA lights that would be on an airplane or any other aircraft, civilian, you know, or, you know, professionally piloted aircraft. Yeah. I mean, what, red and green lights flash. They don't pulse. Yeah. And they flash in there for anti-collision, they're to determine which direction that airplane's flying.

There's all the different reasons why they have those lights. Similar to anyone that boats, you know, we have the red and green lights and a white light in the back on our watercraft and our aircraft to indicate, you know, which direction it's going, which way it's facing. And our aircraft are no different within the flight corridors that they operate. This was not doing that. This was slowly fading in and out and pulsing, brighter, dimmer. That is not something that any of our aircraft do.

So strange. I mean, what was made of it after this report came through? I mean, just was put in a file and said, let's go have lunch. I mean, how is this not bigger? Yeah, that's the other alarming thing with much of this reporting. The initial reports can be found, but there's, with any other. topic, you can look to find the resolved intelligence or the resolved information about these incidents.

Where these reports go and what is made of them is not put anywhere. There's no repository to go find what the belief is, what was made of it, you know, just the initial reports. So these are going up somewhere. They're being harvested, compiled, and not. not released back down to inform the force as to what it is that they're seeing. It doesn't give a very reassuring nod to any of these pilots that are capturing these things on film that, hey, yep, it's a thing, nothing else to tell you about it.

And there you go. Just incredible stuff, honestly. I mean, and this is why I really like to do these, you know, kind of look backs. And I really do want to try to make this a habit moving forward because there is so much from these interviews that, as you go through it, because it really is, you know, you try to get this portion out, and then I try to get this conversation out, and then this topic out, and you're just trying to keep up with yourself to get these conversations out there. And sometimes you miss the fine detail.

And I think that's one portion there that I really did miss until doing this month in review. Not only are we talking about, you know, the strange multicolored lights that don't resemble anything that we use, you know, according to FAA regulations. But I think even more importantly, the most damning part for me of that particular clip, again, aside from the entire episode, where we spoke about all of this in detail, but the most damning part for me is how this stuff has just left there. You heard Anthony say at the end of the clip talking about how a lot of, or every other topic. I mean, again, this is coming from him as a military intelligence analyst. Every other topic that they look into, you get some type of final resolution. You get some type of final report talking about what was going on.

But with this one, it doesn't happen. And, you know, especially with these 46 videos and documents, by the way, that's one thing that's lost. These are not 46 videos that were requested by Congress. It's videos and documents. And that's something that isn't really said very often. And even from me, and I want to start to say that more because I was reminded of that going back through this episode. And one of those things that, you know, we find out from looking into the stuff that Anthony tells us about is this stuff is just left there. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

This isn't even a tip of an iceberg. This is a chip of ice from the tip of the iceberg. That's what this one report is. and when you take this one report colored lights that don't match anything that we use on any of our aircraft or anybody else uses on the aircraft as far as we know, and it's seen by military pilots, and they report it, and you take that siding, and then you take that and you understand the fact that nothing is done with that report. It's filed, it's kept away, there's no resolution to it, there's no, you know, coming back and following up with the pilot who reported it. It's just, thanks for telling us, move on with your day. And that's how it is done every single time.

Hundreds, thousands, actually, of videos and reports working exactly the same. Which again is why I say this is just a chip of the ice off the tip of the iceberg. Because this is how it works. Why does it work this way? We know how it works. Now the question is why. Why is there never any follow-up? Why are these things just filed away for people to just forget about and never come back to?

It's up to you to decide on that one. But the fact is that this is how it happens. And you're hearing that directly from someone who has worked on the inside on these cases in Anthony Williams. It is, man, it's tough. It's frustrating. It's a lot of things. Actually, I have a whole myriad of emotions. It's frustrating.

It's compelling. It's interesting. It's unsettling. And most of all, it continues to feed my drive to work towards the answers here on this subject, which is why we aren't stopping here on UAP. And hopefully you come back for more coming up on episode 204 of UAP. just unreal stuff that I'm really, really happy that we were able to

kind of stop, sit back, reflect on and remember what has been put out here over this past month of April. So thank you for doing that with me here on this month in review. But coming up, there's going to be plenty more to add to this list. First on the show, before I get into some

forecasting here for the month of May, I had mentioned, you're probably wondering, because I'm teased it on the previous episode, What happened to Roney Vernet? Yes, I know I did say he was going to be on here as well as Laura Eisenhower. Laura Eisenhower is in a holding pattern. She's literally traveling around the world, so I'm trying to work with her schedule to try to make that interview happen. But we are in contact, so hopefully I can bring an interview with Laura Eisenhower to you at some point soon.

I'm also in contact with Dr. Beatriz Villarreal, who has been incredible over the past six months with her work coming out about transient objects being. measured outside of Earth's atmosphere pre-satellite age. So if there's something outside of Earth's atmosphere orbiting Earth pre-satellite age, what the heck is that? And so she has become very famous over the past six months or so, give her take six to eight months for her studies, for her papers, which have now been peer reviewed on more than one occasion. That is something that should be covered.

You know, the missing scientists and military officials is widely covered throughout all of media, and rightfully so. I'm not complaining about that. But those reports, pure-reviewed from Dr. Villarreal, should absolutely be at the top page as well when it comes to national media. Because how do you explain these moving objects, these transient objects, as they're called the paper, moving around Earth's atmosphere, Earth's orbit, before the satellite. If it's not a satellite, what the heck was it? And that's the question that she poses. And she proposes physical proof that there is stuff that's being measured pre-satellite age floating above the Earth.

And we're not talking, you know, asteroids and meteors and things like that. We didn't really have space junk yet. So super interesting work that she has been up to over the past six to eight months. And I'm in contact with her as well. And we're going to try to do that this month coming up here in May. So stay tuned for that. And Roney Vernet was going to actually be this episode, or maybe not this one. I did want to do the month or any views.

So either way, this was going to happen. But Roney was something that we had scheduled for this week. But unfortunately, his schedule changed last minute, which I totally understand. I'm not mad about that whatsoever. And the changes that we were trying to work out to get it done this week didn't align with my schedule. So things happened and we had to reschedule for next week. So to start off the month of May, I will bring on Roni Vernet here to actually talk about a military encounter out of Brazil that really has not gotten much coverage at all. But think about what we were talking about with the Tehran case out of Iran, the clip that we played there from Ryan Sprague.

Think about that and then multiply it by like a hundred. It's an incredible story, truly incredible. And I cannot wait to cover it in detail with Roney because that's where he works out of, his South America in Brazil. And he's been covering that case and not many other people have at all. So I'm very much looking forward to bringing that story to you soon here on UAP. and also Ron James, the famous documentary and filmmaker. He has a new film coming out, and we're going to speak to him about that. And I'm also in contact.

I know there's a lot going on. This is what goes on behind the scenes, so here's a look for you. I'm in contact with the director of the new movie covering Jeremy Corbell. I think I might have him on here soon as well. So those are some of the things that we're working on here for UAP. So be sure to stay tuned here to the show. Download, subscribe, wherever you look for. podcast. Just search out UAP. It's going to come up as well as on any social media platform that

you use. Search out UAP. You should see the profile show up and on YouTube as well. UAP podcast and it should pop up there to follow along and check out the videos that I've been pointing up on there too. And you can reach out through social media for messaging. You can do that and I will try to get back to you on those messages as well as email if you'd like. S-Dieneru-U-A-P at gmail.com. It's S-D-I-E-N-R-U-A-P. at gmail.com if you'd like to reach out directly. But as far as any forecasting or prognosticating, what are some of the things that we might end up talking about

in the month of May that, you know, I hadn't mentioned here as part of a plan anyway for the show. Well, there is something going on on May, the weekend of May 8th, 9th, and 10th. Now, I am not going to be there. I could not make it, but it's going to be taking place in Washington, D.C. Dr. Stephen Greer has a new disclosure conference going on in Washington, D.C.

It's the 25th anniversary. He's doing a 25th anniversary of his original disclosure conference that took place back in May of 2001. So he's going to commemorate that at the press club in D.C. for that weekend. And he's going to have a ton of new special guests, new whistleblowers, new witnesses. So I am sure, once that is revealed sometime later next week,

as we sit here now in the last day of April, I'm pretty sure that we're going to be looking at who was there and what they were saying because you know, who knows where they're going to come out with? You never know Dr. Greer and some of the the stories that he comes out with that really shock people. So whatever you make of that

is up to you. But one way or another, I'm sure that I'll be covering it here on UAP. So that's something to look out for. Of course, we're still waiting for the disclosure papers to come out from the Trump administration. Will that drop, excuse me, on aliens.gov?

We know that website exists. It's owned by the federal government. It's a real website, aliens.gov. If you go to it right now, as I sit here, that website still is not live. But the speculation is as soon as they're ready to put out their declassified information, whatever that might end up being, videos, pictures, documents of important historical relevance covering the UFO subject. Whatever we're going to see is going to most likely drop on alien, So that's something we're looking out for in the month of May.

What might we learn from the Trump administration and possible some type of, you know, info disclosure? I don't know how much. Is it going to be like capital D disclosure like we talk about? Is it just going to be some tidbits, some things that we already knew, but it's an elaboration. We all have to wait and see together how that one shakes out. So looking forward to seeing how that one kind of develops over the month of May. and who knows what else might come out.

Like I said, new videos, new whistleblowers, new stories, whatever happens coming up in the month of May and forward, you know I will do my best to cover it right here on UAP. So on that note, thank you so much for sticking around here and for going on this adventure with me to recap the month of April. I really, really appreciate it, and I hope that you enjoyed this look back and reflection on a lot of the things that we learned.

So thank you again. for everything and for all the support and the kind messages. It's just incredible and always means so much to me. So until next time, it's Stephen Deiner here saying be well. Thanks so much. Talk again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast.