UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 208 The Forgotten Files

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Numerous compelling experiences and sightings have been released within the new UFO file drops from the government, but they have been largely overlooked. In this episode, Stephen Diener digs out these files to expose what may be some of the biggest smoking guns towards disclosure that have been released to the public thus far. In some cases, you may be left asking yourself, how didn't I hear about all of this before?...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, welcome back in to UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast for episode number 208. Thanks for coming back here and for going on another crazy adventure. What I'm pretty sure it's going to be another crazy adventure here on UAP as the latest UFO files drop happened last week. And that's what we're going to focus on here today. Not so much what came out, but we're going to focus on,

well, there is one thing I do want to focus on that has come out. but other things that maybe haven't been seen yet before. And some things that I know for sure have yet to be released to the public, hence the name the forgotten files, which admittedly is more for just alliteration on the title part of things. But maybe overlooked would be the better term here today because these things, I believe, have been overlooked because we pay a lot of attention to the videos, the pictures, right?

Those are the sexy things. Those are the visual things that we like to look at, dissect. What are we seeing? Is this a UFO? Is this something that is really showing an alien craft? And I get it. I totally get it. I'm the same exact way.

But that's why I wanted to come on here today and highlight some things that maybe have been overlooked or the forgotten files. And I want to start with, before we get into some of those things, I want to start with something that really kind of inspired me to actually do this episode. here today. It was a tweet actually. It was a response to a post that I put out on X. I put out a quick little video last week on Friday. What was that? On the 21st or 22nd, whatever Friday was, I can't remember anymore. It was the 22nd. And it was after, you know, part two of the UFO files had come out from the Department of War from the White House. And so I put out just a quick thing saying, hey, you know, very interesting videos that we've seen. And here's some things that maybe we'll see next time.

And there was a comment on there from a listener of the show. Shout out to Brad Roberts. And especially shout out because Brad shared on another comment saying that he's been listening to UAP since day one, since episode one, which is almost five years ago now. So just incredibly thankful for that. Thank you, Brad. I know there's a lot out there who have said the same thing to me. So just a special shout out to everybody who has been here since the beginning on UAP. And if you're just joining now for the first time, almost five years later for episode 208,

shout out to you as well. Thank you for joining. And hopefully you stick around and go back and listen to some of the things that you've missed over the years. It's worth it, I would say. There's a lot of good stuff there, if I say so myself. But this comment here from Brad really struck me. And he wrote, I'll be honest, I'm kind of losing hope here. are we going to get anything substantial?

Now, when I first read that, my first honest reaction was kind of like, well, you know, maybe we shouldn't be so negative. I think that's kind of a pessimistic view. But then I stopped because, and I thought that, just explained a little bit because I really do think that we have seen some substantial things. I think we have seen just the fact that an administration, a presidential administration is doing this, I think is. substantial in its own way, that they are releasing UFO files that they have acknowledged. Just a simple fact of acknowledgement that UFO files exist within federal government, you know, cases, if you will, digital cases, digital closets. Just the fact that they have admitted that, that there are things that have not been released

having to do with UFOs, UAPs, reports, videos, pictures. That, to me, in itself, was substantial. and then to actually have releases on the things that they have kept filed away for decades. Now we put that aside and we look at what has actually been released, right? Now let's look at that. And that's where the question becomes, okay, are we going to see anything substantial? Maybe the fact that it is happening or that it is happening is substantial. Yes, I think I can make that argument.

But are we going to see something that would be characterized as a game changer? And so when I sat back to think about that, I actually thought to myself, you know what, maybe I shouldn't be hard on that question. That is actually a very smart question to ask. And it's multi-layered. I think the answer was very complex. So I wrote back to Brad and I said, I'm going to use that question. Thank you, Brad, because I'm going to use that question on my next episode of UAP. It's kind of like the crux of the thought behind all of this.

And I think the way that I've thought about answering this is, kind of been, you kind of peel the onion back on these answers, which is, what do we characterize, number one, as substantial, right? Maybe that's more philosophical than anything, but I think that is in the eye of the beholder. I've been getting this question a lot lately on social media from people, which is, when are we going to see disclosure? What is disclosure? When is full disclosure happening?

And my answer to these things are, it's in the eye of the beholder. Right? for me, I see a video that comes out of an object on, you know, infrared footage from a military apparatus be fighter, jet, or drone. And it is presumably showing characteristics, flight characteristics that cannot be explained with anything that we have in our arsenal that we know about with U.S. technology. We see something like that coming out from an administration, from the intelligence communities. That's substantial to me because they are releasing it, right?

It's not me releasing the footage. It's not Jeremy Corbell. It's not George Knapp. It's not anybody else. They are the ones releasing this footage. It's not Eric Burleson at a congressional hearing. It's the government. So when you see different videos like that, that to me is a big moment.

But I think what people are waiting to see, and maybe speaking for Brad here from his comment, saying he's losing hope when are we going to see something substantial, I think that comes from a place of frustration. And it's something that I completely understand where we say we're going to see the files. We're going to see proof. We're going to see things that are unexplained. And we want to see more than just the Tic Tac. We want to see more than just the glowing orb.

And I completely understand. But so I think what it comes down to is we kind of have to take it as it comes. And I don't mean that in a submissive way. I mean it as we're going to be given breadcrumbs here. This is not going to be the here is clear, you know, full color HD footage of a UFO landing on a military base. I don't think we're going to see that. I don't think that's something that we're going to see in a release anytime soon. We're going to see videos that have been deemed anomalous within the intelligence community and some that have actually been debunked.

And that's where some of this concern happens too. there is valid concern with some of these videos, especially within the second release just last week as we record this here today. Because some might look at these and say, well, some of these videos have actually been debunked already as balloons or as something else by the intelligence community. And the government has put those out. So I understand the, I guess, maybe disappointment or the pessimism when some of those come out.

you think, well, are they just trying to, you know, put out debunked videos to make us lose interest? Are they putting out obvious videos that are balloons or there's an obvious explanation for some of these just to throw us off the trail? So you'll have your casual observer look at these on the nightly news and say, why are they releasing videos of balloons? I knew all this stuff was stupid. Click, there goes the channel. Next video on your YouTube feed. Next video on your Instagram or whatever feed that you're looking at. And then you lose interest.

So that is one theory that people look at. Are they putting out videos that could be debunked just to make people lose interest that may have had a passing interest in this as they see more and more coverage within the mainstream media? So you kind of have, like I said, this is a complex answer, right? This is why I didn't answer it on Twitter because there's much more to this than just saying yes or no, are we going to get something substantial? Because you have to talk about what is substantial, what has come out that might be considered substantial, and what has come out that might be considered substantial, and what has come out that might. might be looked at as, well, did they put this out for a specific reason to try to throw us off the scent or to try to bring us in in a different way? So I think there's a lot of ways to look at this, but the bottom line is at the risk of

joining on too long with this. The bottom line is, I think what we're seeing is an attempt at controlled disclosure. And that's why you are seeing things come out the way that you are. Now the question, the other question would be, why are we seeing control disclosure? Why now? I think we can look at a lot of theories. But I think what it comes down to for me is, and actually in the interest of full disclosure, I was actually talking about this over the weekend with Anthony Williams just in a private conversation

where he and I were speaking about all these things. And a lot of this inspiration for this conversation here today actually comes from what we were talking about just privately on the phone over the weekend. And one thing that I mentioned to him when we were speaking was it could be that not only the fact that people are more interested in this and more and more people are believing it, more and more people aren't taking what the government says at face value anymore with the old old weather there's nothing to see here. It's a swamp gas. It's a weather balloon. All these different things. That is part of it. But also, look what we're doing with space.

And this is just my theory. putting this out there. They just came out. NASA just came out yesterday as I record this with their moon base plan. We're going to the moon. We know that from the Artemis, the, the Artemis launches that they are scheduled to land on the moon in two years in 2028. And then according to the NASA conference yesterday with the, the administrator there, Jared Isaacman, we're going to build moon bases there, permanent moon bases within the next six to seven years. So if we are doing these things and we're going to space more often, we're bringing payloads to the moon and we are constructing bases on the moon, maybe there's a chance that some

type of undeniable siding is going to be disclosed. So if that is the case, if we are now, it's an outward push for space exploration, whether it be Elon with SpaceX or NASA, the bottom line is it is a very front facing outward push for space exploration. And to basis on the moon and on Mars. So with those things coming that we know about, is it possible that the people behind the scenes know sooner or later we are going to see something that is unexplainable and undeniable. So let's get out in front of it now while we can.

Let's look like the good guys. Let's let everybody know what's out there, what they're going to see as we explore space in our neighboring galaxy much more than in the coming years. And that way people can get used to it before they see. it on a, you know, live feed somewhere when we're doing one of these missions. Just a working theory. That's just my thing. Because a lot of people say, well, why now?

And yes, I think the disclosure push is real. I know it's real because I've experienced it a bit of part of it for the past five years. But I also think the writing is on the wall with what we're doing with our own space exploration. So you kind of put all that together. And I think we can take that question. Are we going to get anything substantial? and I think that is, I know a very, very long explanation, but I think it's the right way to explain it,

that what is happening right now is substantial. We've seen some things that are pretty curious, but no doubt about it, there are more things out there that we haven't seen, which I'll get to here before we're done. But I wanted to cover that first here today as we started. Sorry if I went a little bit long on that, but I really wanted to really dig deep into that. that topic into that question.

But when it comes to what we have seen or maybe haven't noticed, there are a few things actually that are pretty significant. We didn't see before. Maybe we didn't notice before. And one of them actually happened within the most previous release this past week when it came to version 2 of the UFO file drop. And one thing that was released in there was sightings that took place in admission of sightings, reported sightings,

in the Sandia, New Mexico area, between 1948 and 1950. Now, let's go back in time a little bit and think about what was happening in those areas. The atomic bomb had just been, you know, invented, tested to end the war in August of 1945. So what happened after that? Did we stop testing? No, of course not. We kept testing atomic bombs, eventually the hydrogen bomb. So we are in that time frame of atomic bomb testing, building, and further exploration of weapons of mass destruction.

So what did we end up seeing? Well, a report came out from in this most recent drop, which may have been overlooked or forgotten. Again, hence the name, the forgotten files here today. A report detailing security inspections. It was found that something was after our atomic bombs. These are early incursions into our, call it nuclear bases, into our, even though it wasn't exactly

nuclear yet, I don't understand that, we're splitting hairs with the terminology, but just for the sake of being easy, early incursions into our nuclear aspirations, I guess maybe it's the better way to put it. And these were documented. Again, in 1949.

Listen to how this was put here. They documented over 200 sightings between 1948 and 1950 just within this area of New Mexico in Sandia, New Mexico, okay? Just that area, not D.C.,

not, you know, Nevada, Nevada, not anywhere else throughout the country. We're just talking about this one area of New Mexico. Over 200 sightings within the period of 1948 and 1950. They saw glowing orbs, flying disks, according to the reports that were declassified in the recent drop

here, exploding fireballs right next to the sensitive installations where the testing was taking place and our nuclear aspirations there. Now, granted, maybe some of these could be explained away as something natural. Meteors perhaps, right? Meteors crashing Earth, glowing green. We see that a lot with, you know, meteors that come down.

It's a pretty common occurrence. So maybe we could, let's say it's half of that. Let's half the 200 and say it was all meteorites, okay? We still have 100 unexplained sightings of orbs and flying. disks. This is the terminology that was used in these reports that were released. Glowing orbs and flying disks. And I can tell you this will not be the last time you hear about glowing orbs here today on this episode. According to these reports, witnesses watched all these things maneuver like nothing that we had on earth during this time period. They described it within these

documents. These objects were darting, hovering, and vanishing into thin air and even blowing up in the sky. Now again, that last part sounds more to me like meteorites coming down. Some sites were, this is weird, I never heard of this before, they said some sites left behind what they described as a copper-like

powder residue. So not only like a white powdery substance, but a copper-like, like a copper coloring to it in this powdery residue that would be left behind these areas where they were seeing these sightings. And then reportedly

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Great interview from a couple of years ago if you want to go back to find that with myself and Paul Hynick. But this was the advent of these things. These sightings back in the late 40s, early 50s documented over Sandia, New Mexico, over 200 that were released in the UFO files recently. And I don't think a lot of people took note of that. And this was really important stuff. So I wanted to make sure that we highlight some of these things here today because these

were important sightings that were being reported by. military personnel, and that ultimately led to some of the most historic UFO programs in U.S. government history with Project Grudge, which led to Project Blue Book, which led to many other things like ATIP and ATIP and all these different programs that we've heard about, whether they're unacknowledged or acknowledged special access programs. I mean, this was the beginning of all that stuff. And we're seeing it play out in real time in these documents that were being released now, you know, 80 years later almost, which is insane to think about. That's how long these things have been going on.

And again, worth pointing out and highlighting here with this, they were happening over the testing sites while we were doing our atomic bomb testing, while we were trying to gain more technology, our nuclear aspirations. So even then, we were seeing these things going, being attracted to our nuclear capabilities, our atomic capabilities. And of course, we hear about all that now. the incursions over nuclear bases. I was just talking with Willizondo about it last week during our two-part episode. How, you know, one of the projects that he worked on where apparently they were trying to attract UFOs with nuclear materials so they could try to shoot them down. Which, by the way, was a very underrated portion of that episode. But maybe I'll cover that more in our end of the month special where we go over some things for the end of the month recap from May.

but it's just kind of connecting the two to modern day to, you know, almost 80 years ago. It's just amazing to think about where we were and where we are now. This is not a modern day phenomenon. This isn't a 20-26 thing. It's not a 2015 thing. This has been going on for decades, for centuries even, of course, you know, depending on how far are you back, you want to go with different reports around the world. But if we're just talking about some of the things that we talk about, you know, recently,

you could say within the past, let's just say the past hundred years. And that's being very, very conservative. But again, worth highlighting, you know, we talk about now like, oh, well, it's just, you know, China. It's just Russia. This wasn't China or Russia in 1948. I'm sorry. It just was not. And it wasn't to us, as far as we know, you know, could we have been testing some type of super secret new technology that we were reverse engineering from.

Roswell the year before in 1947. If you want to go with that theory, by all means, we can maybe work with that theory. But it's always important to remember, and I think we get caught up in this sometimes, which is why I want to say it here before I move on, it's always really important to remember when this all started. Again, this is not a modern day phenomenon. We can't sweep everything under the modern day rug of, it's just us testing secret weapons. it's just China or Russia spying on us with drones or their secret military stuff.

That wasn't happening in the 40s. It just wasn't. And so when we acknowledge those things, given the technology of the time, maybe we can take that and say those are some of the things today? Sure. But what was it in the 40s? What wasn't in the 30s and 20s? What was it when Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were reporting sightings? Which, by the way, happened.

You don't hear about it too often, but it happened. and if you are new to the show, I did episodes on that way back when if you want to search through the library. It's true. So these are all things to keep in mind as we look through these files, the forgotten files,

some of these things have been overlooked. It's always super important to keep in mind as we're investigating these things and maybe if you're new to the topic and you just started hearing about it and you're interested in it, this is not a modern day phenomenon. It's been going on for a long time.

Speaking of which, one thing that is modern day actually is this report that came out from the Disclosure Foundation, something I think that was very much overlooked in this recent file drop. The Disclosure Foundation does great work. If you want to look them up by all means, just search them on the internet, just Disclosure Foundation. But they did something actually using a freedom of information access.

They put in a request for recently on, I should say, previously uncovered, previously, you know, declassified pages of UIP records. Through their FOIA, they got 334 pages of previously unreleased UAP records that were hidden from the public. And some of these materials, this is really interesting. I was just talking about Russia, right? Within some of these materials that they got, the Disclosure Foundation found that these records showed Soviet incursions. Now, George Knapp spoke about this at the recent congressional hearing, maybe not so recent anymore. It's almost a year ago back in September of 2025.

As I was sitting behind him while he was making his testimony heard, he talked about a lot of files from Soviet-era Russia and from even modern-day Russia where they have a lot of their own UAP files, Russia. So does China, so does Japan. So does Mexico. A lot of England, of course, a lot of different places. Canada, Australia, a lot of places around the world have their own UFO files. This is not just an American phenomenon as well. Also something always important to keep in mind. But when it comes to the Soviet era incursions, they were found a couple of really startling ones within these 334 pages.

One occurrence had 13 migs chasing the UFO documented within these files. Again, you can look this up. Google it. The Disclosure Foundation, 334 pages. UAP records. You will find this. This is not a made-up thing. This isn't some social media share that is just ridiculous.

This is stuff that was really in there. 13 migs chasing UFO documented. What were they going after? By all means, it could have been U.S. spy craft. 100% that could be the case. But we don't know. That's why I find this very interesting. Another event spoke about.

Now, this one's a little bit harder to explain. Maybe it was a U2 spy. plane, I don't know, but another event spoke about an event where you actually had Soviet jets. They were scrambled to chase after not one, not two, not three, but 23. 23 UFOs were reported, documented within these reports. It was a huge incursion over Soviet airspace and they scrambled jets to chase after these 23 UFOs that were traveling. And this is why I mentioned the U2 spy plane,

because I'm not sure what else could have flown this high. Maybe the SR-7-1 Blackbird. But we didn't have 23 spy. Maybe I debunked myself here. We didn't have 23 blackbirds. We didn't have 23 U-2s that were flying over Soviet airspace, at least that I know of. I've never heard of that.

But the reason why I mentioned those specifically is because those were high-altitude planes. Listen to this. These UFOs were reported to be traveling at 70,000 feet, an altitude of 70,000 feet. Again, this was Cold War era stuff. These Soviet jets were scrambled. Now, what are you supposed to do?

And a Soviet jet, you're not going up 70,000 feet. I'm sorry. So it might have been a futile effort. But these reports are in there. It happened. I'm not making it up. You can make of it what you will. But it happened.

And it's in these documents. Disclosure Foundation, 334 pages. of UAP records. You can Google it, you can find it, you can read through it, it's in there. So both of the,

though that's something that I believe has gone way underreported and I really wanted to put that out here today because I was like beside myself when I saw that.

I really, it was, I was like, why hadn't I heard about this before? This is incredible. So if you want to dig into that deeper, by all means, you can maybe get back to me with some of the findings

that you find on social media at UAPy. podcast 850 throughout social media right here on YouTube. By the way, this episode is going out on YouTube. So if you want to search it out, just search out UAP podcast on YouTube and you should be able to find it. But again, I'm not making this up. The reports are there and they're incredible. They are astounding, quite honestly.

23 UFOs traveling at an altitude of 70,000 feet. What were they? Your guess is as good as mine. but it happened. And also something that happened that I want to really focus on here today. This is kind of like the main course, if you will, the lead up here that I want to get to before we're done.

This is a very recent event. And this one you may have heard about because this one did get attention, but you still, this is something that should get more attention, which is why I want to bring it in more light here today on this episode of the forgotten files of the recent file drop. This is something that happened just last year in 2025.

And it involved a numerous amount of orbs, multiple orbs, an encounter with fighter jets and helicopters. And this is, again, all documented and brought to friend of the show, Congressman Eric Burleson. Now, what I'm going to do here is I'm going to kind of set this up

and then I'm going to bring it over to another friend of the show, Dan Warren. If you don't know Dan Warren, and he does a great job of breaking down. His specialty is breaking down UAP News, reports, big stories in bite-sized videos. He's been on the show here before, a really great guy, and does just a fantastic job with the coverage that he puts out there. They're like five-minute videos. He takes the topic and breaks it down for you in like five to ten minutes,

and it's fantastic. So if you want to look for him, Dan Warren, he goes by, Hey Luke, Over, there. It's hey, H-E-Y, Luke, L-U-K, there's no E, L-U-K, and then over there. So you can look him up on any of the social media channels. He's on TikTok. He's on Twitter and does a great job. And he did a

really, really great job covering this. So great, actually, that I reached out to him personally and I said, can I use your video on this episode? He said, yeah, absolutely. It would be my honor. So thank you. Shout out to Dan Warren for allowing me to do this here today. I'm going to play the audio

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That's Shopify.com slash UAP. But what this occurrence is, before I play Dan's recap here, what this occurrence is is actually a real event. Make of it what you will, but it happened. Again, fighter jets, helicopters over somewhere over southwestern United States and one of the test ranges there. Presumably they don't give an exact location because obviously this just happened. So they're not going to give you an exact location of where this was over one of the test ranges. but late 2025, early evening hours. It was an event that Eric Burleson recently in a radio interview,

he said that it has shaken the intel community and our military. That's a direct quote, by the way. These are direct quotes. Eric Burleson said, this event here you're about to hear about has, quote, shaking the intel community and our military. Another quote about this where he says, it was undeniable multiple witnesses who are all senior intel officials and military who witnessed the same thing at the same time.

So that's what makes this encounter really, really unique because you have multiple military witnesses and intel officials. They all saw this. They all say the same thing. It was caught on video, by the way, with infrared footage like a lot of these things are. we have not seen that video yet important to point out before you hear it and the question is will we see the video come out? We don't

know if we're going to see the video come out at some point in the future. Eric Burleson I know is pushing for it to come out but I guess we shall wait and see so that is the setup here and I'm going to let Dan again thank you Dan Warren for letting me do this here today check out his stuff

I'll let him take over from here this is about a five and a half minute clip so it's I'm going to play the whole thing So listen closely. This is the entire encounter that had come out in the recent UFO file drops. Here you go. 2025 orb encounter. Incredible stuff.

The following declassified UAP event was documented by the FBI during an intense debrief with the primary witness, a senior U.S. intelligence officer. It unfolded at a classified government testing installation nestled between jagged mountain ranges and nearby towns somewhere in the remote. Western United States. At 5 p.m. on the evening of the encounter, the senior intelligence official climbed aboard a helicopter with two federal partners and two seasoned state pilots. They launched into the fading daylight to perform an aerial sweep of the surrounding mountainous terrain. Strange orbs had been reported earlier that day by installation personnel, glowing spheres

accompanied by deep thunderous thuds, as if massive objects were slamming into the earth. But the hours-long search turned up nothing. As darkness swallowed the last remaining daylight, they returned to base to refuel. A short time later, they received a strange report. Observation post personnel scanning through night vision goggles had spotted debris four miles to the east. At 9.41 p.m., the crew scrambled back into the helicopter. Blades thunder as they lifted off and raced toward the suspected debris field.

They circled the area in question in near total darkness. sweeping the ground with night vision goggles and the powerful spotlight, but only found empty shadows. After eight tense minutes, they turned back towards base, only for the radio to crackle to life with an even more concerning message. The observation post reported multiple high-speed radar hits just four miles from their location. The Joint Operations Center fed them new coordinates in an effort to have them intercept whatever was observed on the radar. 13 minutes later, at 10.02, 2 p.m., they arrived at the rally point and locked eyes on a distant aircraft slipping away along the horizon. Confirmation of the aircraft came instantly from the observation post, followed by an even more alarming transmission.

A superheated orb was spotted hovering at ground level close by. Just then, the orb exploded into motion. It rocketed eastward at impossible speed, veered sharply south, and suddenly split into two distinct objects. The observation post vectored the helicopter south to attempt another intercept. Five minutes later at 10.07 p.m., the JOC warned the helicopter pilots that five military aircraft had entered the shared airspace on a training mission. The helicopter reached the new intercept coordinates and began a desperate search with fleer night vision goggles and the naked eye. Nothing was seen. But the observation post could still see the orb.

They reported that the orb rapidly accelerated into the air, climbing straight toward the helicopter until it passed within 10 feet. Then it streaked east like a rocket. The pilot aggressively gave chase only for the radio to interrupt his effort by informing him that the orb was now 20 miles away. The helicopter was no match for the orb's flight performance. At that moment, the co-pilot caught sight of it through his night vision goggles. It had split into two orbs, and he observed something a murk, emerging from them that took off in a different direction at tremendous speed. The helicopter hovered in place waiting for direction when suddenly the entire crew witnessed

a massive swarm of lights, too many to count, streaking in every direction as the swarm drifted to the south. At 1027 p.m., visual contact with the swarm was lost, and the Joint Operations Center announced that they canceled the exercise of the five military aircraft and redirected them to assist the lone helicopter in their search for the UAP. That was when the sky truly came alive. The Hilo pilot suddenly spotted two enormous orbs hovering side by side directly above them. The orbs flared brilliantly, stationary, menacing, glowing ovals with fiery orange exteriors and blinding white centers, radiating light in all directions, illuminating the shocked faces

of the crew. Seconds later, a third orb ignited below the first. two, then a fourth, then a fifth, until five blazing orbs hung in a vertical column of light. They held their position, then slowly flared out in reverse order, vanishing into the darkness. One minute later, four or five identical orbs were observed to the west, ominously positioned directly over the five inbound military aircraft. They flared up one by one in a perfect horizontal line, burned intensely for 10 to 15 seconds, then extinguished in the reverse sequence. Five minutes after that, another formation flared up to the east, near a small town, same horizontal pattern, same eerie precision.

Eight minutes later, yet another flare-up erupted west of the military installation over the mountains. They two flared down and disappeared into the night. At 10.49 p.m., a new swarm erupted, but this one included three distinct orbs locked in a tight triangular formation. After several seconds, they too flared out. Three minutes later, positioned 10 miles north of the installation, the crew watched five or six orbs ignite over a local town to the east, flaring up one at a time in a horizontal formation before extinguishing in reverse. At 10.57 p.m., four more orbs flared up directly above the five military aircraft yet again

as they made their final descent back to the base, burning brightly before vanishing. This was the final sighting that ended the hour-long game of cat and mouse. At 11.16 p.m., the shaken intelligence officer and crew landed back at the operation center, forever changed by what they witnessed. Yeah, and that's not hyperbole. You know, according to Eric Burleson, which I'll get to in a second, they were all shaken. As you heard me say, I mean, that's why Eric Burleson gave that quote before I played that. That's why I wanted to read that. He said it has shaken the intel community.

military. They saw something. They experienced something that they couldn't explain. And you know what else? That they couldn't defeat. That they couldn't match up with. This isn't a report of foo fighters during World War II in 1943. This is a report from less than a year ago with our most advanced military, you know, flight technology out there at these test ranges. And I think what disturbed them most was not that they weren't, that they were seeing something that they couldn't explain. I think what disturbed them most, what shook them the most,

was that they couldn't match up to it. There was nothing they could do to catch up to these things, to fight these things, to get these things, to get them under control, to make contact with them. That feeling of being powerless,

that feeling of helplessness, and realization of oh shoot there's nothing we can do about this that I think is what has left them shaken from that occurrence in late 2025

as you just heard Dan Warren explained so so well again look him up hey Luke over there L UK there's no there's no E there um hey Luke over there on social media so

thank you to Dan again for allow me to use that clip that you put out on your channel um but just an incredible report and one by the way that Eric Burleson himself said that he was briefed on the story shortly after it happened. He said one of the senior intel officials who was witnessed all this, who was on this flight, came to Burleson personally and briefed him on this.

Burleson said in a tweet on X, he said that he highlighted this particular document and called it the most important record released. so far within these file releases. That's a quote from Eric Burleson said that this story here that we're talking about now and the document report on it is the most important thing that has been released so far because he has spoken, he knows firsthand that the video exists and he has spoken firsthand to the military witnesses who went through this and felt powerless and had that realization of, yeah, there's nothing we can do about these things. We don't know what they are and we can't stop them.

that's a somber realization to go through when you're up there in the air and you're just at the mercy of whatever these things are. I know that sounds scary, but that's what was going on. And it's important to point out. There's a couple of things that I want to highlight from that story real quick before we finish up that I think deserve to be highlighted. This was directly from the report here. I'm holding the report here if you're watching on YouTube. It's just a couple of pages that I want. There are some things that literally highlighted.

when I say I want to highlight some things. I actually literally took a highlighter and did it. And this is directly from the report from the senior intel official who was debriefed and they put that debrief in the released file. And this is when I say there are some things that have been put out that have been very noteworthy. And that's, you know, some of these things have been overlooked or forgotten. He said, our mission was to investigate loud thuds. You heard Dan say that in the video. They heard these thuds in the mountains. on the test range.

They still don't know what those thuds were, but he said they coincided with UAP sightings that were reported over previous several nights. So what are these loud thuds they were hearing? And were they indeed connected to the UAP sightings that were taking place within this range? Another part I highlighted here, he said, we continued searching near areas of reported orb activity.

We discovered a large cave. I thought this was really interesting, and I'll expound on it. He said they discovered a large cave entrance with no visible end in sight. The terrain around the entrance offered no safe landing spot. We noted the location and then pressed on. So the cave thing jumped out to me because so many times, and there's even videos of this, one of them I put out a few years ago of an orb over Iraq as it swoops down. I put out this video.

It's on YouTube. This orb swoops down and it goes into a canyon and then it makes a hard right and it goes into a mountain or what looks like a cave if there was a cave there but there's no visible opening. It just goes through the wall of this canyon. And we've heard other reports like that over time. Even recent reports in Jesse Michael, shout out to him on his American Alchemy show where he has been speaking to people about you know, these reports over Sky, or not Skywaters, I'm going to say Skywalker, Skinwalker Ranch, where there's been reports over the years of glowing orbs flying in and out of the ground, flying in and out of terrain.

And so when I see this about a cave being discovered that was within the area of the orb activity, it made me think, are these orbs or these crafts, whatever this is, coming out of this cave. It's a thought. It's a thought that's, you know, kind of passed through my mind, which is why I wanted to put that out there. It was very interesting,

considering all the other reports of these things flying through, you know, mountain ranges. Another part here says, I then received a message from JOC. They said radar had detected hits several miles up the range from our position. The same area where UAP activity had been observed on prior nights.

The witness says, I relayed this to the pilots and we altered course to intercept. What followed was a series of close UAP encounters lasting over an hour, which you heard Dan allude to there. The witness goes on and says, en route, ground teams reported spotting a UAP on forward-looking infrared footage there, Fleer, describing what they called a super hot, low-to-the-ground object, moving east, then south at high speed.

Okay, so we have the high speed aspect there, as you heard. The object then split into and changed direction. And we heard Dan Warren relate that, that's detail there, that it's split into and change direction. It reminds me of the occurrence that took place famous video, Aguadilla, I believe it was called, off the top of my head in Puerto Rico, where you actually do in clear footage see an object split in two and then go into the water.

and we're talking about something similar here in this mountainous range, presumably somewhere in the southwest U.S. The witness goes on. The ground team suddenly radioed that the object had risen from the ground, what were we just talking about in Skidwalker, right, coming up from the ground, approached within 10 feet of the helicopter. I mean, that's nothing. What is that? Like three yards.

Like, you know, three and a half yards, 10 feet, come on. It dropped below us, the witnesses, and then sped away. once again. He said the pilots observed it through their night vision goggles and saw it split in two. Eyewitness account. Not just something on Fleer footage

that might be able to be debunked and say it's a lens flare. It's something that got caught up. It was a bug being mistaken for it and or being split into. This is an eyewitness testimony that these military personnel saw a craft split into

looking at it with their eyes through night vision goggles. This is incredibly important to highlight. they saw it split in two as a smaller object then emerged before it accelerated out of sight. So it splits into and then a smaller object emerges and then they're gone. What the heck is that? And again, this is maybe six to eight months ago.

This happened. He said we briefly pursued it but broke off because we were unable to match its speed. And that's where that realization sets in of like, there's nothing we can do about this. It's just gone. He said, we took up a hovering position. at approximately 700 feet above the ground or above ground level, AGL. He said, in the distance, we saw countless orange orbs. This is the quote from this document.

Countless orange orbs were swarming in all directions against the backdrop of the mountain. I'm not summarizing. I'm not paraphrasing. I'm not exaggerating for performative purposes. Sometimes I do that, admittedly. but this is the quote We saw countless orange orbs Swarming in all directions

Against the backdrop of the mountain He said they displayed Or this display lasted several minutes Before it faded They said they then saw Two large orbs flare up side by side Close to the helicopter They were oval shaped

Orange with a white or yellow center And emitted light in all directions So I do have to This kind of begs the question for me Are they seeing some type of plasma for lack of a better term plasma craft I mean plasma entity plasma energy I don't know what you want to call it

but something plasma based is that what they're seeing I don't know I'm just thinking out loud based off of the description here of this oval shaped you know kind of really bright really hot on IR footage orange with white or yellow center and that's eyewitness by the way they're describing what they're seeing that's not on camera. They're describing it with their eyes.

That's what they saw, orange of the white or yellow center emitting light in all directions. Then he continues after a few seconds, a third orb flared up below the pair, followed by a fourth orb that formed a total of four or five in a T formation under the original two. The entire event lasted 10 to 15 seconds

in that particular instance he's talking about. Now, he mentions because a lot of people would say, well, dude, where's the pictures? right you know Pixar didn't happen as we say well he answered for that in the report the eyewitness says I didn't take photos as I was focused on assessing what it was and whether it posed a threat so just put yourself in that situation I know we would all say well if I'm in that situation I'm taking out my phone and I'm taking pictures in video and maybe you would but if you're a senior intel official your your job is literally to analyze and that's what he was doing in the moment of course you're

flabbergasted, you're beside yourself of what you're seeing, so you're probably very, you know, befuddled, if you will, and really just simply confused at what you're seeing, so you're kind of caught in awe. You're caught in that moment of like, what am I looking at here? And then before you know it, the moment is over,

and you didn't get to record it or take any pictures. And that's where the intel officer found himself within this occurrence. They said that the orb seemed to that they were now chasing them. So I'll go back here a little bit because he goes on and says that they spotted

fighter jets entering visual range at about 23,000 feet above ground level. He said they were identifiable. They knew where they were fighter jets because of their blinking navigation lights. He said they watched them from afar as these fighter jets came in and then they said the same type of orbs

appeared directly above the fighters and they flared up one at a time in a horizontal formation matching the jet speed and flight path. So like almost mimicking them. Like these orbs were like, yeah, we can do what you're doing. What are you going to do about it? And then again, after 10 to 15 seconds, they dimmed sequentially and disappeared.

And then the witness says this repeated several times. He goes on to say, as we almost finished up, he says, it seemed the same orbs we had encountered were now, and this is an important note. He said these orbs were now seemingly chasing the fighter jets, chasing them. Not the other way around. This wasn't a dogfight with the fighter jets going up to orbs. The orbs were seemingly chasing the fighter jets. Startling to say the least, of course.

He finishes by saying, We also observed orange orbs flaring up and down around us for several minutes, forming a distinct triangle before vanishing. We were virtually speechless. The witness finishes here after these observations. And now we can see why. Congressman Eric Burleson called this the most important document within the UFO file drop.

The video exists. Will we see it? Will we see that video? Will we see other videos that are out there? The bottom line is, and I don't have the interest to that, I hope we do. I can tell you there will be more drops.

You know, what they decide to put out in these drops in the future. I honestly have no idea. Do I have sources? Yes, but I have no idea what is coming out in these file drops. Is there going to be more documents like that? that need to be highlighted, which is why I did it here today in this forgotten files episode, quite possibly, because a lot of people overlook the documents. A lot of people overlook the written document.

And sometimes the written document might be the biggest smoking gun out of the bunch. Again, like I said in the beginning to start this, the video, the picture, that's the thing that gets the press. That's the sexy thing. That's the thing you can put on YouTube or the nightly news. But a report like that from military witnesses, from intel officials, who directly had eyewitness accounts, multiple pilots, multiple officials to attest to that event?

That's a big deal. That to me is pretty substantial, if I'm being honest. You might not think so. You might say it was flares, it was skydivers, it was weather balloons, it was birds,

my lar balloons, whatever you want to throw at it, I think when it comes to secret activity, normally you're going to be told about activity happening over a range unless it's like super super super need to know and even in that case I'm not sure how common that is where you wouldn't have some type of indication to flight radar on the ground that hey this

you know you're going to see some weird things just just ignore it they may not be told what's going on but they'll say just ignore it okay no questions I'll ignore it nothing like that happened you're not going to have sky divers with flare on their ankle going over the bases without saying anything to anybody. Sorry, or just not. Same thing with flares.

There would be an explanation for it. Senior intel officials and military pilots would know what's going on. They just would. They would get the reports about something happening over their test ranges. And they are left speechless. That's not my word. That's what the witness said. They said they were left virtually speechless.

And this was about six to eight months ago. And no one's talking about it on the news. They show the videos. They show the pictures. but this stuff this needs to be spoken about and I'm glad I could do that here today and thank you to Dan Warren

for covering this so well on his own channel because he highlighted it really well and got a lot of attention because of him and that's why I wanted to do this on this episode of UAP today for the Forgotten Files because it needs to be heard

it's a massive story it's incredible honestly it really is and hopefully we hear more about it hopefully we see something from it and hopefully we see more of the videos that I know are out there Like this one, I'll finish with this here today on this episode 208 of UAP. Ross Coldheart alluded to this, that this video exists.

And I confirmed it with Anthony Williams, who if you don't know, is our military intel analyst here on the show. The insider, our intel insider here on UAP, who gives us incredible insight, very unique insight that only he could give us someone on the inside. So I said over the weekend I had a call with him. I said, does this video exist? Yes, it does. Here's the video. If you heard Ross Colthard talk about it, it is iPhone footage, right? So we talk about pilots or intel officials.

Take out your phone. Take a picture. Take a video. Why don't you do it? Well, reportedly this pilot or at least someone in the B2 stealth bomber did. Reportedly, they took out their phone and they took a video from the cockpit of a B2 bomber of a UFO coming up to the cockpit visible within the UFO footage or within the iPhone footage

and this UFO gets so close now I don't know the shape if it's an orb if it's a saucer if it's a cigar I'm not sure what the shape is but I do know that the video does exist of this craft coming up to the cockpit of the B2 bomber and in the cockpit of the craft you do see a gray alien that's what I was told over the weekend by Anthony

William's so credit to ross coldheart he has put that information out there it is absolutely confirmed on my end that this video does exist from the cockpit of a b2 bomber from a a an airman that was in the cockpit and they filmed this event of an alien approaching them and you see the gray alien in the craft now this video exists on sipernet classified network okay that's why it hasn't come out yet. Will we ever see it? I hope so. Let us be the judge of it. Because here's what Anthony Williams told me. I said, when we were talking about it, he's like, yeah, I've seen it. And I'm like, wait, wait, hold on. Let's move back there for a second. Back it up a little bit. What do you mean you've seen it? I've seen it. So I said, well, is there an actual alien in the video? He said,

yeah, I've seen it. Like, well, dude, what are you seeing an alien in the video? Like, that's kind of a big deal. And he said, well, look, here's the thing. It's a gray alien. It looks like the classic gray that you see in the pictures that's described. He said, yeah, it's very weird when you see it. He's like, the reason why this hasn't come out, and the reason why it's on Sipper is because

they don't know if it's a real video or not. All they can do is go by the report from the airman in the B-2 bomber, that they saw it and they took the video on their iPhone. And because of that, because it was taken on the iPhone,

and this is what I was told by Anthony Williams, because it was taken on the iPhone, they cannot 100% verify its veracity that it is an actual video showing a real event and that it's not AI or it's not doctored because it was not caught on military cameras. It was not caught on the camera from the B2. It was not caught on on Fleer footage or, you know, a drone,

whatever else that they use to capture these things because it wasn't captured on official military apparatus, if you will, they cannot officially verify its authenticity. So it lives on the Sipternet. It lives on the classified networks. But it is real. And it does show an alien in craft that they can see outside of their cockpit. This is the story.

Apparently this video does exist. It would be incredible to see. You know, will we see that come out? personally I doubt it it would be incredible though I do know and I mentioned this in the video last week when the file drop happened on May 22nd I know for a fact

verifiable that high definition full color videos exist of orbs flying through the sky at super high speeds I know that for a fact and we have not seen that come out there is no mistaking what you're seeing of a metallic orb flying through the sky at high speeds

it's no mistaking it it's not a bird It's not a balloon. It's not a weather balloon. It's not a smudge on the camera. This is high definition color footage. And these videos do exist. So hopefully, and I'm putting this out there because I'm hoping that we end up seeing these videos at some point. That's what we deserve to see.

Should we be encouraged that it's happening and that things are being released? 100%. I think we should be encouraged that things are being released. But also don't play us for a fool. Right? We can say both things. Good that it's happening. But don't play us for a fool.

fool. Don't pee on our leg and tell us it's raining by releasing footage of easily debunkable things that we can say, okay, well, that's kind of silly. That's not a UFO. That's a balloon. Or that's a mannequin flying in the sky. I don't know. Or that's a lens flare.

Don't put something out just to try to appease us. Yes, we're happy that you're putting things out, but let's also put out some real you know, identifiable, incredible things that people can look at and make their minds up for themselves. That's what this is supposed to be all about. And I think to go along with the report that we heard, that's the kind of stuff that should be coming out.

The report is there, but let's also put out the videos. There is much more to come on this side of the disclosure push. Really, we've only scratched the surface of the surface. There's like a scratch on the surface of the surface. shavings off at the tip of the iceberg, if you will. That's what we're seeing here over the past, you know, few weeks to a month. But there's much more to come. And you know I'm going to be here to cover it all with you here on UAP.

And this, I think, has been a very educational, a very important episode here of UAP for episode 208 of UAP for the forgotten files. And I really just want to kind of like make sure that I'm not leaving anything out as I kind of look at my notes here. I'm pretty sure I covered everything over this past. hour and I'm glad that you stuck around that you went through all this with me because it is a lot to uncover, but I really wanted to do my best here today to kind of, you know, dig as deep as I possibly could into these reports to highlight what needed to be highlighted because it is really,

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