UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 209 May - A Wild Month in Review

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

From the shocking revelations of up close encounters in Brazil, to the compelling testimonies from Lue Elizondo, the month of May was full of big moments both here on UAP and otherwise. Join Stephen Diener as he recaps some of the most important points that we might have missed or have already forgotten...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yes, welcome back into UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here. As always, on the unattendedified alien podcast. This time for episode number 209 as we look back at the month of May in this month in review for the month of May. And I'm happy actually that this worked out. I'm not going to lie, whenever I try something new, it's a little nerve-wracking. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

And I feel like there was a lot of positive feedback actually on this on doing a month in review. and the whole idea was, you know, because now the second time doing it, we did the month in review for April at the beginning of May, just last month, obviously. But, you know, I actually felt like there was a lot of good feedback, a lot of positive feedback on that monthly recap, because for the reason why I did it in the first place was to kind of relive and remember a lot of the things that we learned that we so easily forget because there's so much that happens and this is such a fast-paced conversation. nowadays that I do really find this, you know, worth it to actually stop for a second and go back and kind of recap some of the big things that maybe we missed. We forgot from the previous

episodes of the month. So I'm glad that it did work out well the first time we did this. So I'm going to keep doing it as long as I find it worthy enough to do so. And what we found out in the month of May was definitely worthy of a month in reviews. So we're going to start. We're going to start at, well, the beginning of the month when we first brought on Roney Vernet. Of course, the famous Brazilian UFO investigator does some of the best international work, I think, out there when it comes to, you know, different reports and the history of the UAP phenomenon outside of the United States. And that's why I really wanted to bring him on because it's so important to, I guess,

realize, and he, that's what he did such a great job of, was to put into perspective the realization that there is a lot that happens outside of the United States, and there is a lot that has happened, some really incredible and incredibly detailed stories with very reliable and credible witnesses, including the encounters that he laid out for us when we spoke to him about four weeks ago, and specifically on a couple of things that we're going to look back on here

from that interview as we start off this month in review for the month of May, where he spoke about the encounters that took place from November to December of 2008. And he spoke about a lieutenant commander who actually surprised a lot of people just recently and came out and told the story in detail about what happened when they had a close encounter

with luminous beings and what they were chasing, the different craft that were being reported, electrical blackouts within different cities in Brazil. These are things that weren't making, you know, the nightly news here in the United States, but it was happening, according to these reports, from military personnel in Brazil, and Ronnie Vernet was just fantastic, absolutely fantastic when I had them on here to begin the month of May. And so we're going to actually look back here and play a couple of those clips, this first one going back where we were speaking about

those encounters from 2008. So a few minutes here to sit back and recap what we learned here from this particular or these particular incidents from 2008 in Brazil, as Roney describes them here. He wrote in the report that the beings also messed with his mind, his mind and mind of his colleagues. He was not able to carry the gun, to point the gun to the beings. Sometimes the beings were not, didn't appear, simply didn't appear in the camera. They fear, they felt, A lot of unbalanced, they felt dizziness, they felt a lot of physiological effects when these beings were close to them. And the beings were even able to create things that were not physically there.

For example, the military were chasing the beings and the beings created in the mind of the military, the illusion that a lake was there, a big lake. But physically, there was not any... lake there. It was only to the military stop the car and not be able to continue the chasing the beings. So it is all written in this report. I don't think I've ever heard of that before. Have you just just real quick on that detail about making the the military see something that's not there. So they essentially slowed down in their chase. Have you ever, I've never heard of a detail like that before, where they're being shown something, an illusion that is just simply not there.

Yeah. I don't think you've ever heard that. So the beings were able to put in the mind of the military everything they wanted. Wow. And I translated this report to English. I can send you so you can pass also to your audience. Yeah. And it's the first report where we have directly the military saying we had contact with

beings, we had physiological effects emanating not only from the phenomena, but also with the beings. The curious things that the phenomena, not the beings, but the phenomena, the lights, were able to turn off all the lights of the city. The lights were also able to stop the car of the military. The car simply didn't work when the light was closed. So we had electromagnetic effects and they also have physiological effects in the body of the military. And it's all written in this report. And it's the first time, as I said, that we have physiological, electromagnetic effects and beings also witnessed directed by the military and written in a report. Because you have a lot of testimonies and have a lot of conversations, but not official documentation.

And this is official military documentation saying that. And I think this never happened in the world, in any incident. Yeah, so there you go there on that clip. As you can hear why I decided to specifically picked that one because Roney pointed out this was a historic report that was being brought forth from the lieutenant commander on the Brazilian military there. And it's really unbelievable when you consider some of the details just a little bit. And had, you know, that snippet there. And I chose that one specifically because if you remember, it's encompassed. That was just a clip from the entire story. I mean, that story spanned about 25 minutes of the episode where we spoke about a few different things.

Another one actually I'm going to get to another clip from that episode we're going to get to here in just a minute. But in that entirety of the story, we really went in depth about what was revealed, you know, 18 years later from 2008 to 2026 with that lieutenant commander where he actually spoke about how they chased down different luminous beings, how they encountered craft, the witnesses throughout the cities who were saying that they were seeing, you know, glowing ore. and glowing craft flying over. They had the blackouts, like I mentioned earlier, before we played the clip. And I also brought that in because they mentioned, and this was one thing I didn't really get to spend as much time on as I wanted. And that's why I'd like to do these recaps, because I do like to kind of try to rehash, or I should say, maybe spend a little bit more time on different aspects of an episode that

I didn't get to as much as I liked the first time around in, like, you know, the post-interview discussions that I do. And one of those things that I didn't get to spend enough time on that I felt anyway was the health effects. You heard him mention how they felt off balance. They felt that their heads were being messed with. They had these illusions in front of them. They even felt like some type of physical effects that they couldn't explain from being, you know, having this close proximity to craft or to the beings themselves. Now, I want you to remember that because that connects directly to the next clip I'm going to play here from where Roney speaks about a famous UFO encounter that happened in 1977

and that wasn't revealed or at least spoken about from military officials 20 years later until 1997. And this was from a man named Colonel Hollanda, who, as you're going to hear, was actually found dead. You're going to hear Roney mention it that his death was officially considered or ruled a suicide by hanging. Now, of course, you can make up your mind on whatever you want to think about that, if that was a cover-up.

But this was, as we were speaking about, something called Operation Sasser from 1977. And it happened where there was so many different sightings that they had to acknowledge, in some cases, what was going on, and try to figure out with the Brazilian public and try to figure out what was going on. This was a huge UFO flap in 1977 that was. that wasn't officially acknowledged 20 years later until 1997. So that's

this clip here. It's a little bit more lengthy where we kind of go back and forth and you're going to hear us talk about the physical effects. And I'm picking these clips on purpose because I felt like this part of the conversation was really worthy of being highlighted. Maybe

we didn't get, like I said, to highlight it enough back in the first time during this episode. So we'll connect these two here as I play this next clip from my interview with Ronnie Vernet back at the beginning of the month of May. The events happened in 1977. He came forward in 1997, and after that he unfortunately committed suicide. This was very profound because it was the first time a commander came forward to speak directly that like this case. He had many incidents with anomalous phenomena, but at that time, the military

incidents was not with beings it was only different shapes of UFOs the colonel Orlando had experience of beings but after the operation he said he was abducted that the beings came and put him an implant on his arm he had an object inside his arm with any any signal of entrance in his scheme and he said that he was he started to see also in his home from poltergeist events. Things were floating. His car was turning off and turning on alone.

And he had like this hitchhiker experience after the operation. But during the operation, the official documentation, we don't have something like this case where the military, during the military operations had these experiences with the beings itself. And reading reports about the beings like that. This is not happening in the operation. So this is the different. But it was a big step to break the stigma about this topic.

And it was the biggest, until now, the biggest experience, the biggest thing in history about the phenomenon in Brazil. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the name, Operation Saucer, 1977. So what did he say about that exactly? Just that they were, like, officially investigating UFOs, but it had been denied up until that point? Yeah, the phenomena affected. two states in Brazil and even in a minor incident a third state so he covered a lot of the area

in north of Brazil the mayors of the cities was out desperate because the phenomenon was sending lights to people in these communities and taking blood from people and this was confirmed by exams that people did in these villages and so the people were completely in panic. The people were traveling to other cities to avoid the phenomena. Even the priests and the police chiefs were also running away from this phenomena. Wow. So this was the time when the Brazilian Air Force needed to go there and to investigate. And this is why Operation Sasser happened. They just had so many lights and so many things showing up that they were trying to figure out what was going on, essentially. Yeah.

And the main fact is that these people were affected by these light beings and the blood was taken from these people. Many had permanent sequela, permanent injuries about these attacks. And I could visit some of the families that was affected. And they had some type of brain damage together. And this is why this case became so alarming. for the for this military to go there. So we're talking about physical effects in 1977 that Colonel Hollande came out 20 years later in 1997 to speak about before his death. Um, to say this is what was going on.

We were investigating some type of UAP. I know we weren't using the term 97, but some type of UFO phenomenon, um, and interaction with other beings in 1977. Like you had, so we had physical effects that were, medically documented for people. They were getting physically affected. You're seeing they were taking their blood. They have physical effects and everything.

Yeah. And they were in a state that the red cells were taking from them. They had the deficiency in red cells. Wow. So they were anemic. I don't think the, I don't think the English word is enemy or something like that, enemy or something like that. Yeah, you got it.

It's a disease when you had the deficiency in red cells. cells. And this was the main problem there. The people being affected, they're being injured. And as I said, some some people had permanent sequela. At that time, we also had animal mutilations. That's something that people normally don't don't say about these incidents. Yeah. And we have a lot of people missing. So have everything happening in this area in northern Africa Brazil. So people missing animal or, you know, cattle, mutilations, problems with the blood. I mean, these real physical effects that were so important I felt to really focus on here

and looking back at my interview with Roney Vernet because there was so much in that interview. I really probably just could have done like three parts just recapping his interview alone. I won't even get to the 1986 UFO flap as well, the night of the UFOs, as he described in that episode. I mean, there's just too much to go over here today, but that was another piece. You know, 1986, the entirety of, you know, a great part of Brazil seeing UFOs, and they're talking about the news, they're trying to figure out what's going on. And it was similar to what they were seen in 1977 with Operation Saucer. And that's one of the things, too, that, you know, you really need to, or I should say that

I really want to highlight, which is this is something that it wasn't like, you know, oh, there's some weird stuff happening, you know, it's kind of fun. Ha ha, ha, is it aliens? No, but people were taking it very seriously, and it was undeniable at that point. These were, you know, nightly mass sightings happening in Brazil in 1977. And a lot of this stuff never really gets brought up. And it's so important, I think, to highlight some of these things as we look back on the month of May, especially considering how, you know, Kono Hollanda mentions his own physical effects,

having the implant. I mean, that's a classic implant story there. I've heard so many different stories about how people feel like they've been implanted after abduction scenarios. You know, why are those implants put in there? Are they for tracking? Are they for experimentation? Are they for health reasons?

You know, he talks about having attachments after that. Poltergeist activity, which is another aspect of this, by the way, that doesn't get reported on enough. And it's very strange. And I don't think, like, I've only spoken about it a couple of times when it comes the poltergeist activity and how it connects to the UAP phenomenon because I don't know how to explain it. And quite frankly, it kind of freaks me out because I've spoken to a couple people before

who mentioned, yeah, like there's been weird things happening in my house ever since. And I'm not talking about, you know, seeing beings in your bedroom. That's the kind of thing you hear about with abductions, which is creepy enough. But when you talk about, like, I've heard people talk about seeing glowing orbs in their homes, things being moved around, unexplained sites or sounds. You know, like you heard Roney mentioned there, just different attachments and poltergeist activity that has been mentioned many times before in connection with the UAP phenomenon, people who have close encounters or have been, you know, claimed to be

abducted. There is different attachments and poltergeist activity that does get reported in connection with those things. And so you don't hear about it a lot. It is one of those kind of like underreported aspects of the phenomenon, but it is something that is spoken about. And I thought that was really, really intriguing to hear Colonel Hollanda himself, as Roney recounted his account from 1997, where he mentioned his own experiences after the 1970 or 1977 Operation Saucer and what he went through. And not to mention, again, you know, the implants and the different things that he went through health-wise. and then you have these other physical effects of people who were being spoken to about in that time frame, whether it was things with their mind, things with their red blood cells becoming anemic.

I thought that was really interesting. Why is that happening? But again, I've actually heard of that before. This was not. That's why it caught my attention because it's not something to hear about a lot, but it is something I've heard about before. And it is underreported when it comes to extreme. close encounters or abductions where you have people now having some type of deficiencies with their blood or strange markers with their blood.

It does happen. And it did get reported widely, medically documented with people in 1977 during Operation Saucer, during that, you know, a huge flap that went on in Brazil. These are things that people really went through, these physical effects because of close encounters with, you know, UAP. Now, why is that? Were they encountering some type of advanced technology from the United States or another country that, you know, for whatever reason, maybe we were testing out over Brazil

or someone else was testing out over these areas of Brazil in 1977? Your guess is as good as mine. Or was this actual, you know, real life, otherworldly technology, otherworldly beings that they were encountering, these luminous beings. and for whatever reason, just like we've heard about in other aspects, like I said, of abductions and close encounters, they are left with physical effects, long-lasting physical effects that have been adverse to their health condition. And so that happened in 1977 in Brazil. And it's not really spoken enough about it. And that's why I wanted to really touch on that here on this recap today.

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member one soldier dying as a report, you know, reportedly as a direct contact. I'm talking skin to skin to skin with one of the beings that was said to be recovered and brought to the hospital in Virginia where the soldier ended up dying and they have no idea why. Like they could not figure out what was wrong with him and then he died a couple of days later. So these are all, again, this isn't hearsay, this isn't rumor. These are physically documented, medically documented anomalies directing back or connected directly to reported close encounters with other worldly beings or their craft. That stuff happened in Brazil on multiple scenarios, multiple cases, and especially as we look back here on those cases with Roney going back to that episode to start off the month of May.

I can't say enough about that episode. I really can't. If you haven't heard it or if you want to hear the whole thing again, it's in its entirety, then please by all means or spread the word on it because there's so much more in that episode that I really hope that people hear. But I wanted to focus on those things here today because that was a really, really important episode with Roney Fernette to start off the month of May. But as we moved forward in the month of May, we brought on Ron James. UFO Documentarian came out with a new film this month actually, or it should say in the month of May. a follow-up to his other work in the subject.

And, you know, he's a very much acclaimed UFO documentarian, director, storyteller, and just also happens to be the media relations director for Mufon. So someone who is very influential in the space and someone who is very knowledgeable in the space, decades, decades of reports and disclosure efforts just living in his head. So it was really cool to have on Ron James here. for the first time actually. We had them on for the first time here on UAP in the month of May. And what I want to do actually is play a clip from that interview that did not air. This is a deleted scene, if you will, from this episode.

And I'll explain more in detail after I play the clip. But the reason why I deleted this, and it did not make it in the original episode as it aired a few weeks back was because it was about, I asked me a question about the story. remember it, all these different pastors from different Christian denominations came out and said that they were on some type of secret call. They were sworn to secrecy with some people in U.S. Congress, and they were told in this super secret meeting that they need to prepare their congregations for disclosure. Now, that story in itself was highly controversial, and I'll touch on it after I played this clip and go into more detail. But I ended up deleting this clip you're about to hear from our interview because I had asked him about it before we found

out more about that scenario. We ended up finding out that there was a lot more that meets the eyes. So with that's reported story. So when I asked him about it, it sounded kind of dated once the episode finally aired, it sounded like, oh, we kind of know about this already. Why you ask you about it? We already got our answers on it. So since we already got our answers on it, By the time I was ready to air the interview, I thought that it kind of just sounded silly at that point. So I deleted this clip from the original interview with Ron James as it aired. But I want to bring up back here, this deleted scene from my interview with Ron James about pastors who were supposedly briefed. And I thought Ron's answer was really interesting.

And I'll come back and kind of dive more into it and fully explain here. But here's the clip. My deleted scene with Ron James from our episode just a few weeks ago about that. about that report. There's something that's been kind of making the rounds here lately. And I wanted to get your take on what you're hearing about it. Is it fodder? Is it just or is it made up or is there something to this that Congress or government

officials, one of the other or both, have brought in religious leaders, United States religious leaders, different Christian denominations and, etc. other leaders have brought in to say prepare your congregations because this is going to be revealed aliens are real and it's going there's going to be a revelation about this have you heard about this and if not i apologize for throwing you under the bus but if you have what do you make of this and do you know any insight as to if this meeting these meetings actually took place well you know this is another one of those things this is just an example of how this this dog and point pony show is playing out. The churches and the religions are the ones that have been telling us

since the beginning of human history that we are in the presence of non-human intelligence, that there are beings other than us that exist in realms other than ours that are engaging us. And so, you know, the idea that all of a sudden we need to bring the churches on board to acknowledge non-human intelligence is kind of laughable. But these meetings have happened and continue to happen for a long time. Danny Sheehan was involved with the Jimmy Carter administration and interfacing with the church. The Catholic Church has already come out on numerous occasions

and said that if there were to be an acknowledgement of alien life, that it doesn't interfere with our, you know, they're all God's children, so to speak. And of course, you know, you look at some of the other religions like Islam has factored in non-human and even extraterrestrial intelligence right into the fabric, of its teachings. Even the Bible tells the story of Ezekiel in the wheel. And if you go back into some of these books like Genesis revisited, we have Zachariah Sitchin kind of tying together the

book of Genesis with an alien mythos. And so, you know, formal meetings about, hey, this is coming. Yeah, these things are happening routinely. It's not like they just convened a big thing and the Pope showed up and the leader of Islam showed up and Benjamin Netanyahu and his crew showed up from Israel to have a big, you know, sware of the world's religions to discuss disclosure. But the, you know, certainly the churches have to be involved because in a lot of ways they maintain the fabric of society. And so you can't have disclosure. You can't just go, oh, hey, I'm going to tell the world there's aliens today. yeah, by the way, maybe we should call the Pope.

No, this stuff is all being worked out. All right, so there you go. The deleted scene there with Ron James from our previous episode that came out a few weeks ago. And what I found really interesting about his answer was, you know, his overall response of like, this isn't new. And so let me put this all together. When it came to that original report, I didn't believe it for a second personally and I actually even put out on on X. Don't believe a word about this pastor story. because it was very much embellished.

And even some of the pastors who came out and, you know, tried to push this whole narrative came out and kind of had to correct the terminology they were using because Eric Burleson came out and said, yeah, you know, they brought me on like a conference call. And I just said a few things. It wasn't at all what they're talking about. And they weren't brought in by Congress or the U.S. government. They were brought in by some type of, you know, private group. And it was just like this, this overall conversation in some direction.

and it wasn't at all what it was made out to be, which is another reason why I had that scene or that scene, you know, like it's a movie, that clip deleted from the interview that came out with Ron James because it just really didn't fit anymore and the story had kind of died out by the time the interview actually aired. But it's worth coming back to and kind of touching on again now because that, you know, it's a great lesson to look at as far as the pitfalls

on how this conversation can go sometimes. You really need to be careful on what you pay attention to and what you take to heart on some of the things that come out, especially now, especially now. And I put an emphasis on that because this is the hottest and the conversation has ever been. There's more eyes on this conversation, the UAP topic, than there has ever been before in modern times when it comes to social media and mass media. It's been covered heavily before, but it's not like it is now when it comes to the way that, you know, the international media works and the way, especially the way that social media works. It's all uncharted territory with how hot this topic is now. And so what you get is some different influential accounts on social media, you know, throughout TikTok, Instagram X, whatever, YouTube. And now they're trying to ride the wave.

Maybe some people who hadn't covered it before, been interested it before. Now all of a sudden they're getting exclusive, you know, scoops. They're getting exclusive news. They're posting videos of UFO sightings. And you kind of have to stop and think to yourself, why? Why you all of a sudden are you talking about this? And all of a sudden, you have exclusive information on this. And so just be weary because you have a lot of people who are now trying to jump on the train

just because it's popular. and they want to try to get their name out there and get on top of things because people are paying attention to the topic. So they want to be part of the algorithm. They want to be part of the UAP algorithm. And so just be wary of those things when it comes to this topic right now and who you're listening to and what they're saying as to not be kind of, you know, let astray in this conversation just because they want to be part of the crowd. And I think that's exactly what happened with these pastors who came out to try to really,

quite frankly, prop themselves up and make them. make them seem like they're more important than they actually were. And I know that might seem like, you know, kind of strong coming out the gate, but that's the reality. And I do want to come strong out the gate with that because it's annoying, quite frankly. And it's very irritating to see, you know, oh, the act so serious and the act so kind of high and mighty about the whole thing. Like, we are the ones you need to listen to. No, enough with that noise. They weren't the ones you need to listen to. They're trying to get on top of it and cash in for themselves on the topic to get clicks and views on their own videos.

So it's people like that, these pastors that came out and tried to make more out of the story than what it actually was. And then they were found out and called onto the carpet and then they had to come out and correct the whole thing. So shame on them and shame on anybody else who tries to capitalize off of the eyeballs on this just for their own clicks and their own views and lead people astray in erroneous reports. And that's exactly what the whole pastor thing was, taken into secret meetings with Congress. No, you weren't. Stop it. You were lying or embellishing at best when it came to that whole story.

So I'm glad that got squashed. I'm glad that got put to bed. And that's why, in all, I ended up cutting that scene with Ron James because it just didn't, you know, kind of align anymore with the current news cycle by the time the interview came out. But his response was interesting also, just to kind of look back on to hear that perspective. Like, even if that story was something overall true, okay, yes, there was some type of, I shouldn't say they were outright lying because there was some type of element of truth, like a morsel of truth that they were spoken to by like this private group. Okay, big deal.

I had nothing to do with what they were saying originally with U.S. Congress. It's just that Burleson was brought on to a speaker conference and he spoke for like 30 seconds, big whoop. So anyway, enough of that. But when it came to them trying to make it seem like this was breaking news that this is the moment, no. And you heard Ron James say it there. Like, this is a conversation that's been going on for decades, decades within churches and synagogues and temples alike where, yeah, this has been going on, you know, going back just to look at the Vatican. This is a conversation that's been taking place for probably 100 years.

when you're talking about, you know, world leaders having conversations with religious leaders and how to handle this topic, maybe even how to cover it up in some aspects. That's just speculation of my part. But when we talk about, you know, religious leaders being brought in and being briefed, again, embellishment, a lot of embellishment there. But it's not new. Even if that was happening, this has been something that has been taking place for decades and decades where you're having conversations with religious leaders on how to handle the U.S. topic. So it's not new. Even when you hear different reports about it outside of the pastor's story,

it's not something that is breaking news. So don't fall for the trap of, I have the scoop. This is happening. Okay, cool. It's been happening for 70 years. Okay? So I wanted to put that out here today in this recap and kind of put that into the proper perspective as well. Now, it's a totally different story. And it's worth noting. It's a totally different story.

if it comes out that Pope Leo has been brought in to the White House. They flew him over from the Vatican to have a secret meeting in the situation room with President Trump and his cabinet on how they're going to disclose the alien truth on so-and-so date. Like there's a specific date where they're going to announce this together. That's a different story. But to take old reports and recycle them about, you know, this leader and that leader and this church and that church and synagogue, whatever it might be. Those are recycled things have been happening for a long time. So, again, just to kind of frame that in the proper perspective, as far as I understand it. But enough.

I'll get off the pulpit there. But I thought it was important. It's important to put that into the proper framing. But before we're done here, I can't finish off this recap for the month of May without getting into our two-parter with Lou Elizondo. And even after Lou Elizondo, I do want to get to a couple of things that have happened, actually, just within, like literally the last. days of May. Like quite literally the final two days of May, the news that came out.

So we'll end with that after Lou. But getting into R&B with Lou Al-Azando, now it would take two or three hours to fully recap that whole thing. So if you didn't hear those two parts, by all means, go ahead and grab those two parts there with Lou Alizando. But there were two things, two and a half, I guess I should say, that I really wanted to harp on today during this month in review. The first one was, and something,

admittedly that I really didn't get to follow up on with Lou. I really wanted to. It was actually on my list of things to really kind of dive into with him. And that was how disclosure is being handled in other countries, specifically out of someplace like Japan, because it hasn't been brought up a lot, but Japan is really in the news when it comes to their push and they're reporting on disclosure and their own UFO files. And Lou touched on it here. And again, I didn't get to touch on it as much as I want to.

to with him or even recap it as much as I wanted to, which is why I'm doing that here right now on this month in review. So here's a clip with Lou where he mentions that, and then we'll come back and kind of touching that a little bit more. It's been a bit cathartic and not for personal or selfish reasons because so many people had put faith in this topic and really had over the years and decades, in fact, dedicated a lot of their life to studying this topic and they were never taken seriously. And now it's not just the United States government, which is a pretty big deal. It's other countries as well. You have countries like Japan, right? And other countries in South America and in Europe, China are all admitting, yeah, we've got to take this topic seriously

because we're dealing it with ourselves. And so you have countries owning up to this. Yeah. So that last part there really stuck with me, right? Other countries owning up to this. And by the way, the clip, if it sounded a little bit out of place to come in, I had asked him, you know, how he felt as he's now seeing a lot of this stuff come out when it comes to the government side of things with, you know, the UFO files that have come out on the, you know, war.gov slash UFO website, not aliens.gov. Yeah, I'm going to touch on that. I mentioned there were a couple things that happened over the weekend at the end of May. That was one of them, and you better believe I'm going to touch on that before we're done to finish this recap on the month. But, you know, I asked him, you know,

how has that felt? And he said it has felt cathartic because it's kind of, you know, a little bit of vindication for a lot of people who have put their life, their careers, their reputations on the line to try to point out a lot of this stuff with reports and sightings in the history, of course, when it comes to the UAP topic. And then you heard him mention there at the end, other countries who were talking about it, South America, right? We talked about Brazil with Roney-Vernet. He mentions China.

He mentions European countries. And then he mentioned Japan. And I wanted to touch on Japan specifically because what they were talking about here really caught my eye. In the middle of May, there were reports coming out from Japan that their government is now actively analyzing the Pentagon file dump, right? The tranche or trenches that have come out in the two dumps on war.gov slash UFO on the UFO files. And Japan is closely monitoring that situation, actually, because There were two videos that came out in those releases, specifically, I believe in the first one on May 8th, where one of the videos showed a UAP, a UFO flying near Japanese airspace.

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And after you purchase, they will ask you where you heard about them. So please support my show and tell them my show sent you. Now, the chief cabinet secretary for Japan, a man named, and I'm sorry if I get this name wrong, but a man named Minoru Kiara confirmed back on May 11th that they are reviewing with what he called a quote here with great interest, the files that came out, and they were weighing their own cases and actually that the Japanese government, according to the chief cabinet secretary there, that they were weighing their own cases on maybe doing releases for their own Japanese UFO files.

They have mentioned before that the physics, you know, obviously they defy physics, the objects that were seen in some of the videos that have come out. And Japan's own UFO Parliamentary League is reportedly pushing. for this release on their own ends. So this is kind of like the domino effect that we kind of speculated on when the UFO files first came out. With the United States kind of dipping their toes in the water and releasing files, would that help the cause now? Would that help the case of other major economies, other major countries to come out and say,

okay, you know what, maybe we will release our own. Brazil, of course, Japan, China, Italy, England, Germany, France, Portugal, Spain, going even to Oceania, countries, and Australia. I mean, there is, again, this is not unique to the United States. And I think I've hit that point home very clearly over the years, and if not over the past few months. Canada, Mexico, of course, just staying here in North America. there are so many different countries in Russia being another big one that could release their own UFO files. So with the United States doing that, even, yes, we can make the criticisms that it hasn't been exactly what we've wanted it to be. Some of the things that have come out have been subpar.

I will fully admit that, but some things have been very interesting. Even, you know, what I spoke about on the most previous episode, the forgotten files, where I spoke about some of the really big things that came out, just documents that weren't videos or pictures. documents that were highly, highly interesting that warranted some major investigation that I thought were very noteworthy that came out within the UFO file dumps. And I'm not going to go over, by the way, just a quick side note.

I'm not going to recap the forgotten files because that is the most recent episodes just like five days ago. So I think that would be a little bit too repetitive to go back and take a look at since that one just came out. But it is very much worth looking back on if you haven't heard it.

The forgotten files there, the last episode I put out, in May and just mentioning, you know, covering the things I just mentioned there. But, you know, could that be that domino effect? And Japan was very interesting in the month of May, in the middle of May, where the government came out kind of hinting that they might do their own disclosure. And that's what Luehle-Azondo kind of pointed out there in that clip from our part one during our interview.

So very, very noteworthy. And I wanted to point that out here because, like I said, I didn't get to touch on that as much as I wanted to. the first go-around. And another part that I didn't get to touch on in detail as much as I wanted to was something called Project Interloper. This was something that Lou Elizando mentioned that, I don't know, maybe flew under the radar.

I don't know why this isn't spoken about more, which is why I wanted to highlight it here today, something that he mentioned in part two of our interview toward the end-ish of that interview called Project Interloper. And if you missed it or you forgot what it is, I'm going to play the clip. and we actually begin, it leads into Project Interlober, where he's talking about the Department of Energy, because we were talking about the would-be whistleblower Kevin Chuldress, who was found dead, and that was revealed in our interview back in August of 2021. He was found dead in his home by his wife about, you know, a week or two before he was set to go with Lou Elizondo to testify privately in front of Congress about what he knew regarding the Department of Energy and the role that they play.

or have played allegedly in the UFO cover-up because Kevin Childress worked in a major capacity within the Department of Energy. And then he's found dead five years ago. So you're going to hear at the start of the clip he's mentioning, because I had mentioned about, you know, what kind of role does the Department of Energy have in all of this, in cover-ups or in the science behind UFOs or, you know, trying to reverse engineer things when it comes to crash recoveries. So that was the question, and you're going to hear at the start of the clip that answer, as you're speaking about the Department of Energy and the role that they play,

and then that leads into Project Interloper. So here's that clip now as we recap this part of the episode with Lou Elizando. So look, people say, well, everybody says Department of Energy, what role do they really have? Well, a lot of people don't know this, but Department of Energy actually has a lot of authority, especially over anything that gives off a radioactive signature over X amount, Department of Energy has primacy. That's why if you've got any nuclear power plant, Department of Energy is there. That's why if you got any, you know, there's a nuclear propulsion on board of a Navy boat, right? There's always some sort of Department of Energy equity there. Same thing with nuclear weapons. Department of Energy is always sitting

side saddle with whoever owns the warhead, right, or the rocket, because they are fundamentally and responsible for anything with a certain signature of X plus. And then when you have the topic of UAP, it turns out that we are fairly confident that the propulsion units on these things can often give up a radioactive type signal, like the source it can give off. And again, I'll be very careful what I say and how I say it, but just that, you know, there's some form of radiation that is emitted. And that has, from my understanding, what has been the predicate for Department of Energy involvement.

Do you feel we've intentionally taken down craft, Lou? I know that's something that gets brought up sometimes that we have intentionally either tried or actually successfully taken down non-human intelligence craft vehicles, whatever we want to call them. Has that happened according to your knowledge? So let me answer in a way that I can answer it because it's already been approved by the Pentagon. I talked about it a little while ago in something that I wrote. And I talk about something called Project Interlover, where during the 2015 time frame, there were so many incursions of UAP into Navy airspace during workups and practice and also during live missions, that we had created an effort at the time that would lure in UFOs,

lure in UAP. We were going to put out a big, huge nuclear footprint out in the middle of the ocean, knowing that the UFOs were going to show up, and then when they did, we'd have collection assets there ready as a tripwire to start collecting information. It was brought up in one of our meetings that do we want to, if we had the opportunity, do we want to bring one down? I was one of the voices to say, I probably wouldn't do that. I think that's a bit too provocative.

I think that could be considered a hostile intent. And what we don't want to do is anything to upset or piss off. You know, if these folks, these are really truly our friend from out of town, so to speak, you don't want to do something that provokes them into an action that we may not be prepared for. So I think we need to be very cautious not to do that. I think we're okay collecting information. It's okay, you know, lowering them out, but I wouldn't go that next step of any type of kinetic effort to try to bring one down.

And that view was shared by others as well in the Pentagon, but not by everybody. And there were people who say, well, you know, we've tried to do it in the past. Why shouldn't we do it now? You know, and it's a good question. But my response is that I just, I don't think we should do that. I don't think we should be provocative that way. You know, one thing is to passively assess something and analyze something and collect information on something passively.

Another thing is to actively do it. And, you know, if active translates to kinetic, then I don't think we should do that. And that clip there from Lou is a perfect example as to why I think it's really valuable to do these, you know, month and reviews to do these lookbacks. because as I listen back to that clip, there's even some, you know, kind of word usage, some hints, some clues that I didn't pick up on the first three or four times that I listened back to that clip. But here I am listening back to it or, you know, on the fifth or the sixth time. And I pick up on different words, some different phrases or even cadences that he used when discussing Project Interloper. because I'll be honest, as I came back on here to discuss it, I thought, okay, well, let me research Project Interloper a little bit more.

But it was something kind of funny as I started to research Project Interloper and just look it up on Google. The only resources I could find on it were some Reddit threads where it was discussing what Lou Elizando has already said and clips of that interview from my show showing up on Google, where he's discussing Project Interloper. Otherwise, there is no documentation on it. There is no paperwork on it. There is nothing else on it other than what Lou Elizano has said, what has been picked up in Reddit threads, or what has been said right there in my interview.

So I'm researching it, and I'm thinking to myself, well, clicking on my interview isn't going to do much to help me. So the fact of the matter is when it comes to Project Interloper, as I listen back there, showing the discussions, taking back in 2015, where he's saying they were discussing and everyone kind of being okay with the idea of research purposes, to use Project Interloper as a passive type of way to observe and research craft, but not to take them down because my question is,

and again, I ran out of time with Lewis, so maybe this is something I have to ask and maybe bring up another time if he can even answer it, which I have a feeling he won't be able to. but my main question would have been, did it work? Meaning, not did we, you know, what did we find out in a passive observance type of way, which is interesting enough in itself, but did we actually take that step to use a kinetic strike, as he puts, to actually physically use force to take down a non-human craft? Now, you heard him say it was not definitive there in his statement.

You heard him kind of mention I was one of the voices that spoke up against using force to take these things down at risk of, you know, making them angry at us. But there were others, as he said, who were for it. It sounds like, and really, again, this is really just up to your perception, right? It's always leave it up to you and let you decide. And that really is the case here when it comes to that statement from Lou. My personal read, and you might agree or disagree, is that they probably try. tried just based off of his statement, like he was one of the voices saying, don't do it. But my personal read is that they have probably tried over the past 10 years or 11 years, in that case, going back to 2015, to take some of these things down.

And if the question is, did they try to do it? Did it work? And what did we find out? It does sound like absolutely that they did try to passively observe and research these craft using the, I guess you could say, nuclear carrot stick under the. box like in a rabbit trap. I have like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. It's some nuclear radiation signals that are bringing

in these craft. So as we set that trap in Project Interloper, what did we find out, whether or not we took these craft down or not? What did we find out? So I think there's still a lot to learn there from Project Interloper, but the fact of the matter is, according to Luz

testimony from his days back in the Pentagon, those things were actively discussed. And it seems like in one way or you know some type of fashion uh it was deployed in some way so very very interesting to kind of listen back to that and try to pick up on some of the hints that he dropped on how exactly that was deployed and what we might have actually um successfully done during project interloper really really wild stuff to even consider uh that we were doing that right and who well who knows what else we were doing before that or since then

Look, let's face it, this really does connect to what we've heard from Michael Herrera over the years, right here on the show and in other documentaries that he's been on. I know he's in some documentaries coming out in the next couple of months. And, you know, Michael Herrera was one of the whistleblowers that came out a few years ago with Dr. Stephen Greer where he said that, you know, he in his time overseas, I believe in the Philippines. It's been a while since I heard the story where he came across some type of, you know, black ops thing going on. He thought they were moving drugs, comes to find out that, according to his story, it was human trafficking. And he kind of went down the rabbit hole where he discovers, he says, he alleges that it was human trafficking in order to bring in psionic assets from third world countries. And they would use these people to sionically connect, to craft, to bring them down. And this is post-2015 outside of Project Interloper.

So if we just look at what Louelizondo is saying there with what they were trying to do in the Pentagon and then go with what Michael Herrera alleges with using psionic assets or the P3 program, as he put it a few years back, where they would take in these people and bring them to these secret bases here in the United States to psychically connect to craft and then bring them down to lull them into this false sense of security and bring them down, you know, I don't know what to believe. Are we really actively trying to take these things down? I wouldn't be shocked. Look, of all the stories that I've heard and the testimonies that I've heard, even outside of the show,

I would not be shocked if this stuff is true. In fact, maybe I expect it to be true in some form or fashion. But again, to consider that these things might be happening is just a whole other story in itself. And that's the kind of stuff. That right there is the kind of really heavy stuff that, you know, I'm curious to see how long it takes for the mainstream media to pick up on, because they're picking up on, you know, hybrids. They're picking up on the four types of alien species and the different programs.

But when do they start picking up on abductions and, you know, and the hybridization as a whole, those programs. I know they started talking about it a little bit with like 23 and Me, where the scientists were trying to use 23 Me to track DNA to find alien hybrids. but there's more for them to find out there and do they start to pick up on these types of things so very very interesting to consider those details and to really think about

what has been going on with projects like that and then you heard I mention at the start of it with the Department of Energy and they're kind of how they connect to all that and the reason why the Department of Energy came up as I mentioned a little while ago before we played that clip was because of the revelation of the passing of Kevin Childress we found out his story that I mentioned mentioned a little while ago.

And that kind of connected us to actually what happened over this past weekend. It was discovered, much like Kevin Childress was discovered to be dead five years ago and he was about to become a whistleblower. Now we find out one of the missing scientists in that list that, you know, kind of went viral. Melissa Casillas in New Mexico, she was the lab assistant at Los Alamos. She went missing right last year. She was one of the missing kind of scientist government employees. And her body was discovered on May 28th and confirmed on Saturday, May 30th to be her.

They found remains in Carson National Forest in New Mexico. And it was confirmed to be Melissa Casillas, this former lab assistant from Los Alamos in New Mexico. Of course, various strange circumstances surrounding her disappearance, just like we saw with some of the others, like General McCasteland, who was mentioned in my episode with Lou, where they leave behind their personal belongings. It was the same type of thing for Melissa. You know, her phone, her keys, her wallet, like all these different things were left behind. Things that you wouldn't normally leave behind. But for whatever reason, she did not have them with her when she went into the wilderness,

so to speak. And they ended up finding her body and confirming that it was her remains over this past week on May 30th. They also, curiously enough, did find a handgun. next to her body. Now, there is no report on whether or not they found some type of gunshot wound to her body. We don't know that yet, as of this recording right here today on Wednesday, June 3rd, as I put this out here today, but what we do know as of right now, as I speak to you, is that they are investigating the remains and they have not put out an official cause of death yet as to

why she was found dead in the middle of course, the National Forest there in New Mexico. It's a sad and disturbing story. Of course, our condolences go out to her family and her friends to have to deal with something like that is unimaginable, of course. But, you know, this kind of all ties together. We talk about Kevin Childress, his connections with the Department of Energy. He's found dead before he goes to speak to Congress. We don't know, like, we know what Kevin Childress was going to say because Lou told us.

But we don't know what type of information Melissa Casillas was dealing with working at Los Alamos, was she working to become a whistleblower? We have no idea. That's just wild speculation. And I don't know. And neither does anybody else. All we know is that she was a name on the list of people that had gone missing or had been found dead in connection with, you know, these top secret laboratories or or information.

And now we know that she is indeed deceased. So these things continue to develop. some of them are interesting, some of them are intriguing and fascinating and compelling, and some of them are just downright disturbing, as in the case of Kevin Childress or Melissa Casillas. Lastly, here today, as we finish off this episode here for the look back in the month of May, and there was a lot, so I appreciate you sticking around in kind of rehashing this month and kind of trying to learn some new things as well as we move forward here into June now, halfway through the year, which is incredible for 2026.

But the last thing I want to touch on here today, that is noteworthy for the month of May, was the release of aliens.gov. And this happened at the end of the month just this past weekend. Aliens.gov, it finally went live. Yes, the long awaited. We get to see all the files and all the secrets. Sure.

So as you know by now, and there's a lot that I need to get off my chest here, and I'll try to make a brief, and I'll try to kind of encapsulate it here. But as we now know, or in case you haven't heard, aliens.gov ended up being a website essentially tying back to illegal immigration and illegal immigration arrests and all those different things. So aliens as in, you know, foreigners coming across illegally. And the thing is for me and why I did have a negative reaction to the launch of aliens.

dot gov and if you didn't see i put out a video on x when this went live uh over the past few days and kind of gave my thoughts and to encapsulate all those thoughts it basically boils down to this it was the lead up to the release it was the imagery that they used it was kind of like you know the tees that they used having to do with it the white house social media team kind of strung people along in a joking mocking way to use alien imagery or emojis or kind of different language relating back to the UAP phenomenon to hype up the release of aliens.gov, knowing full well, of course, that it had nothing to do with extraterrestrials, but rather illegal aliens.

And to use all of that intentionally for me was the thing that left a very much sour taste in my mouth when it came to the release of this website. by all means if that's what the federal government wants to do then that is up to them that's the website they made hey i'm not getting into that this show is not about illegal immigration or politics okay what it is about though is obviously the uap topic and when you use different terminology or symbols or images on social media that depict or point back to the UFO topic to kind of average and hype up your website and then you open up the website and it has nothing to do with the UAP topic but rather it's legal immigration that to me felt like a slap in the face that to me felt like a mocking type of tone leading up to the launch of aliens.gov and i for one do not appreciate that whatsoever it's amateurish um it's silly it's a really bad look for this administration. And I say that specifically because I'm separating the messaging from the administration,

which this is contradictory. I don't know how much they care, the higher-ups or even President Trump himself and how this was launched or even if he knows. I don't even know what he knows for the launch of aliens.gov. He probably doesn't even care. But what it comes down to is the messaging there at the top, right, Vance talks about it, the vice president. He's obsessed with the topic, he says. and we've heard from the top of the intelligence agencies that they take this seriously. Trump says he wants to release it all. So the messaging from them is that it's more of a serious tone that they want to give disclosure or not disclosure.

They haven't said that, but they want to give the files to the American people, which is why they came out with war.gov slash UFO. War.gov slash UFO turned out to be what we thought aliens.gov was going to be. Okay. And so when it comes down to it, that's what they're using that website for. So you have the messaging there, which is the more serious tone. They take it seriously. They try to bring, you know, uncover the facts from the American people.

Transparency is the term that they use. So that's the tone at the top of the administration. But then you do this on the social media side, and that's why I say I separate the two, because you have the social media side of the White House where it's a whole different department. They kind of do their thing on the White House, you know, social media accounts. and when they do that, it really makes a bad look for what the administration and the serious tone that they've been trying to put out toward it, towards transparency. And then you have this mocking tone from the social media side. So they're budding heads.

It's a contradictory messaging from the administration. And I just think they need to kind of like get together and decide on what is it that they actually want to do here. Do they want to make fun of it or do they want to take it seriously? because you can't have it both ways. So, so far, in the release of the two different batches on ward.gov slash UFO, they have seemingly taken seriously,

and there will be more releases in the future. So don't, my point is, don't pee on our leg and tell us it's raining. Don't do one thing and then behind our back to another with this stupid release of aliens.gov, and then you have all this imagery, you know, kind of,

going back and leading back to the UFO topic just to hype up your website having nothing to do with the UAP topic. Stop that. Don't do that. It's a bad look. So that was my negative reaction to the whole thing. And I hope we don't get something like that again because it's insulting. It's really insulting. And even though, and I know some people point back to this and they say, oh, it was a funny

troll job. And if you think it was funny, then fine. I don't think it was funny. So agree to disagree. I think it was insulting. and some people also point back to Annapoleon Aluna and she wrote on social media that Aliens.gov had to do with illegal immigration. That one is on me because I thought she was being sarcastic and some people point back to that

and say, well, you know, she did say that it had to do with legal immigration. And you know what? You're right. You are 100% correct. And I should have taken that more seriously. And I didn't. So that part is on me. I thought she was being sarcastic, kind of like, ha, ha, you know, this is a little bit.

illegal immigration. Meanwhile, we know it was really going to be about, but actually it did turn out to be illegal immigration. So credit to her, she tried to tell us. Some of you listened. I did not. I thought that part was the joke. In fact, the website itself is the part that turned out to be the joke. So aliens.gov is live, and it has nothing to do with the UAP topic. What we need to pay attention to now is UFO or is war.gov slash UFO. That's where they're going to be dropping these files in the future, just like they have. and the past two drops. And now we know. So no more speculation on aliens.gov. We have found out what that is

and on the unfortunate strategy that went into the launch of that to end the month of May. But with all that being said, that will end the month of May as we look forward to June now. It has been quite the recap here. There was a lot to go over.

So again, I appreciate you sticking around and kind of rehashing some of this. And again, really learning some new things. And that's why, like I said, while ago I love to do these because it gives us a chance to kind of look back, take a breath, and realize, oh, wait, I didn't even hear that part the first time. Get some new enlightening little nuggets there as we come out of May and go into June. And speaking of which, I'll look ahead here on the show and for the month of June because

we're not going to slow down and neither is the topic coming up here. A few different interviews actually that I'm excited about just in the short term. I'm going to have on a woman named Carolina, and she is a real-life experiencer who is, I had mentioned it once in my episode with Ryan Sprague, if you go back, I believe, to April, I mentioned to him somebody that I've been talking to for the past year or so now, who claims to have, like, downloads coming into their brain with, like, quantum mechanics and physics, things that she can't explain, this knowledge that she has having to do. with like, you know, physics and quantum mechanics and all these different things and math. And she can't explain where it's coming from. And that's Carolina. So I've been talking to her for a while behind the scenes. She has an incredible story, really unbelievable.

And I'm looking forward to bringing her on here to UAP. Again, just an everyday experiencer. And we've been having these conversations behind the scenes. So I'm looking forward to debuting her story for everyone to hear for the first time here on UAP. also bringing on investigator Serena D.C. She was just out at contact in the desert, actually. So I'm looking forward to having her on the show as she's kind of got some new information

and investigations into the alien human hybrid subject. So looking forward to talking to her on that because that has definitely been in the news lately when it comes to the hybrids, as I was just kind of mentioning earlier. We're also going to talk to an author named Simon Brown who has some incredible stories when it comes to abductions and close in calendar.

He's out of England, and I'm looking forward to bringing him on the show. There's a lot coming up here on UAP. I'm still in touch, by the way. I mentioned her a few weeks back. I'm in direct contact now with Laura Eisenhower, the great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower, and she has been willing to talk in the past about this subject and her family's history when it comes to this subject, of course, the famous stories with President Eisenhower, you know, the supposed meeting with Greys and Nordics.

that he had. You've heard me talk about it here even recently on the show. So I'm a direct contact with Laura Eisenhower and I'm hoping to have her on in the month of June. She's extremely busy. She travels around the world at different speaking engagements. So I'm trying to coordinate with her to get a time to bring her on to the show. But that will be exciting. I'm really, really looking forward to that opportunity because she has some incredible accounts of her own that I'm looking forward to bringing to you here on UAP. And then a little bit of look ahead too. in the very near future. Next week, there is supposed to be this big press conference on the steps of Capitol Hill

involving Eric Burleson, Timberchette, Annapolino Luna, Jared Moskowitz. So four big congressional members there on the UAP caucus, if you will, along with David Grush and James Fox and Leslie Keene. They're all supposed to be there in D.C. to have this press conference on Tuesday, June 9th at 1 p.m. as they basically try to push the disclosure narrative forward in D.C. to actually push for some type of legislative processes towards disclosure. So that should be a really big event.

A lot of us don't know what to expect from that. Even some behind the scenes conversations I've been having over the past couple of days with my contacts in D.C. I'll be honest, even some of them that have been talking to aren't exactly sure what to expect from this. they just know it's going to be big. The word I got was significant. It's going to be a significant event. From their read that will take place on June 9th on the steps of Capitol Hill. And I think there's going to be a massive, massive ripple effect here.

And this might, in my opinion, we'll see how the month works out. But this might end up being the story of June is this press conference coming up on the ninth, on the steps there of Capitol Hill. So I'm going to try to make it out there. My plans are kind of in flux myself, so I'll keep you updated. But I'm trying to plan out myself to make it there. And if I can, then I'm going to bring you everything I can as it happens on the steps of Capitol Hill in this big press conference that's going to take place, this like disclosure push for some type of legislative process that's going to take place with the big names I mentioned with David Grush and Burleson and James Fox and all these names I mentioned, Luna, Burchett, Moskowitz. it's going to be a really big deal.

So we'll keep an eye on that, along with everything else we have planned here on the show and everything to come that we don't even know. Maybe we'll get another UFO drop on war.gov slash UFO. A lot still to come out, and I can't wait to cover it all as it happens here on UAP in the coming days, the coming weeks, and of course, the coming months. So with that said, thank you so much for joining here today on the show. Thank you so much for continuing to come back. and for all the kind words and the kind messages,

they really do truly mean the world to me. Thank you so much for those things. And I can't wait to come back and do it all here again soon on UAP. Continue to subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts. All the major platforms to search UAP, and it'll come up there, including on social media, YouTube, all the big outlets, X and TikTok and Instagram, just search UAP, UAP podcast.

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