UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 218 True or False? Monoliths in Space

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

Could the tales from a movie like "2001: A Space Odyssey" be based off something factual? Stephen Diener explores the statements made by the likes of Buzz Aldrin and Lue Elizondo when it comes to the reports of pictures showing monolithic structures on Mars and even our own moon! Why are these being hidden from us?...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Yeah, you know what that music means. Welcome back in here to UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here. As always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast for episode number 218. Happy to be back with you here on, well, I guess more of a classic type of episode, maybe even a UAP short, as I say that right now, because who knows, maybe it'll end up just droning on for the next 45 minutes. But we'll see.

Maybe this will be a little bit of a shorter one because I want to do more of a classic version here today, like I said, kind of diving in. into a subject. I want to focus on a subject here today and ask the questions and give the details kind of like old school UAP. I like to try to throw these in here when I can. And I had the opportunity to do that this weekend. I like to try to do that more because some of the other stuff out there, I guess I'll just start off with this. Maybe you can even say this is a factoid to go even more old school into UAP. Just, and this is really more of a personal gripe than anything before I get into the subject matter

of the day, which is monoliths in space. Is there really something to this? And what are the implications? And why is this a subject right now? So we'll get into that and something that's been intriguing to me for well, for a long time, but specifically the past few weeks on my mind.

But as far as the little bit of a factoid, which is more of a gripe, if you will, the social media, I guess chaos, the zoo of social media for UFO Twitter. It's exhausting.

I don't know. Maybe you don't partake in it, and if you don't, then that's good. Or if you do, maybe just go on to Twitter or to social media any of the accounts and just follow UAP, then fantastic. Then you're all set. Then it's nice and peaceful. But just it's become, that's one of the things I've noticed the most

over the past five years of doing this show and being in this space is it's just gotten so loud and there's so much infighting. And there's so much almost like high. school drama to this point where you have the personalities fighting with each other back and forth. This skeptic says that and this podcaster says this. And then this show host says this about that podcaster. And it's just, it's kind of exhausting. And then there's just so much fodder out there as well.

I mean, I log on to social media. And I say this as a benefit to you. I say this as a cautionary tale to you as well if you partake in social media. Maybe you even feel the same way if you do partake in all the social media craziness that is out there in UFO Twitterland or UFO TikTok or whatever it may be, Instagram. And maybe you even notice what I'm talking about where there just seems to be so much more drama these days in the infighting of UFO podcasters and hosts and personalities and influencers and all these different people, experiencers, even to the point where it's exhausting sometimes to see some of the stories out there where this person is. calling UFOs down and they're talking to God and they're getting messages and it's like just stop already honestly there's just so much out there and you got people like uh dr greer out there who says he's in touch with the pentagon and he's having meetings with the president just stop

you know there's just so much fodder out there and i might get in trouble for seeing some of this but i don't really care anymore um that that's that's the point i'm at you know figures into it. If you got something to say to me, then come at me, bro. That's where I'm at. I don't care anymore if I ruffle some feathers. It's just, you know, the messages out there, the, the self-congratulatory patty on the back, look at me style of, you know, reporting or podcasting or producing where it's just a circle pat on the back. Let me put it a nice way. I'll at least be, you know, G-rated here. A circle pat on the back. It takes place in this space now where it's like, okay, I'll talk to you, and then I'll talk to you, but I won't talk to this guy or I won't talk to that guy on my show, but I'll talk to this guy or that guy on my show instead because he's part of my good old boys club, and it's very clicky, and I'm tired of it.

So what I'm doing is I'm just doing my own thing. I'm still, of course, always happy to have on guests. If they're willing to come on, you know I'm always going to be happy to talk to people and bring people on to talk. but I'm really avoiding the whole, the clickiness. It's very high schoolish, very high school drama, atmosphere going on social media for UFO, you know, social media, Twitter, TikTok, whatever. But it's mostly on Twitter that I've seen a lot of this. And again, if you're on it, then you've seen it. You know what I'm talking about.

And if you're not on it, then you're probably scratching your head saying, wow, this sounds terrible. And it is, which is why I'm not getting involved with this stuff. and I haven't really been on even on Twitter that much. It's like exhausting. It hurts my brain. So if you're wondering why I haven't been seeing that much on social media, it's just because I can't stand the high school drama of it all. I'm just blinders on.

Let's do this. Let's get back to basics and talk about what really matters here. The stories that intrigue us, the interviews that make us think, the conversations that compel us to think of new ideas and new possibilities. Let's get down to basics. Keep it simple, stupid. Kiss. That was not the band.

I remember I was taught that in high school freshman year, and I never forgot it. Keep it simple, stupid. And that's what we're going to do here on UAP. I'm not getting involved with any of the drama out there on social media with all these other podcasters and influencers. Give me a bleeping break. I'm done with it. So, with all that said, and you're probably thinking, again, if you don't know

what I'm talking about, this is lost on you. But that's trust me, you're better off. And that's why I say this, even if you don't know what I'm talking about, It's a cautionary tale not to get mixed up in this garbage. Now, getting to the task at hand here today, monoliths in space. This is something that's, and this isn't Space Odyssey 2001. You know, of course, the classic Stanley Kubrick film there with the monoliths, you know, in space on the moon, on the planets, all the different stuff. It is interesting, and I do actually kind of want to tie it back to that towards the end, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

But that's, you know, not what I'm talking about. We're not talking about Hollywood movies. We're talking about what could really kind of tie in to something like we saw in Space Odyssey 2001, especially when it comes to AI. My goodness, we're seeing the advent of that right now as we speak in this world. But when we talk about monoliths and the real reports out there, whether it's on our moon or on Mars or on the moons of Mars, such as the moon of Phobos of Mars,

that's what we're talking about here today. And there's two specific people that I want to mention when we talk about these things. And the first person is, well, none other than Buzz Aldrin. There's two people that have spoken on this. Buzz Aldrin and Lou Elizondo. And Buzz Aldrin is where we're going to start because this clip is something that has stuck in my head for a few years, actually. And I'm glad that I actually kind of get to sit down and talk about this subject in particular, because it really doesn't get a lot of attention because there is so much out there where

everyone's grabbing for your attention these days. So like I said, boiling it down to basics here, this is one of those things that has stuck in my head for a long time. It was a clip from 2009. Now, some of people say that they've debunked this. Others say that it really does point to something. If you've never heard it, well, here it is right now. This is Buzz Aldrin, of course, I mean, I don't think he needs an introduction about,

Apollo 11, American hero, famous astronaut, walked on the moon, all that good stuff. This is where he was on an interview on C-SPAN in 2009 talking about space exploration and what we should be doing, what he wants to see us do in space when it comes to kind of pushing the envelope in space travel and exploration. And then he gets into some of the things that we might see and notice that a lot of people aren't paying attention to. Very interesting. We should go boldly where man has not gone before.

Fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit the moon of Mars. There's a monolith. They're a very unusual structure on this little potato-shaped object that goes around Mars once in seven hours. When people find out about that, they're going to say, who put that there? Who put that there? Okay, so a couple things there to pay attention to. And there is more to that clip there with Buzz Aldridge. from that 2009 C-SPAN interview.

But real quick, he talks about the potato-shaped thing going around. He's talking about the moon phobos that's, you know, going around Mars. And he's talking about this monolithic structure. That has caught a lot of people's attention then. And it's one of those clips that kind of goes around from time to time where people say, wait, when did this happen? Wouldn't it buzz Aldrin say that there was a monolith on Mars? Now, like I said, there's a very interesting end to that clip that you never.

hear because whoever usually puts up that clip, they usually cut it off right there where you heard it. Before I get to that part, though, what is he exactly talking about? So that quote there goes back to what scientists say, this object, this monolith, as he calls it, is according to scientists, again, just throwing out all the details, it's a naturally occurring boulder that was left behind by impact craters. It was discovered by a Mars Global Surveyor, which was, you know, one of those, you know, orbitors that goes around and everything, out of Canada, actually, in 1998.

So it was photographed then. And when they saw that, they were like, well, what the heck are we looking at here? That was back in 1998. I'm not going to say way back in 1998, because that's going to make me feel really old, because I fully remember, 1998. And I'm sure you do as well. But that's when this photograph was taken, when the discovery was first made about this monolith on Mars or on the moon of Mars, Phobos, one of the moons there. So that's what Buzz Aldrin was referring to there in that 2009 interview.

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And it's big. and we'll get to the size here in a little bit. But when it comes to the rest of the clip, the rest of the clip that you never hear, when Buzz Aldrin says there at the end, people will wonder, how did it get there? Well, there's a few seconds after that where he gives his own take on it.

So very interesting to hear the rest of his thought and how does it play into, are we looking at an alien structure in this picture? Because the picture does exist. There's no doubt that there is something on the mood of Mars, maybe even Mars itself, There's no question about that. The debate is, what are we looking at?

And how did it get there? So Buzz Aldrin actually did say this at the end of the clip that, well, maybe it was put there naturally or even supernaturally. Here's what he said in the rest of that clip there. Well, the universe put it there. If you choose, God put it there. So the universe or God put it there. And it's very, you know, it's important to get the entire context. of the clip because what a lot of people fail to hear is that Buzz Aldrin isn't, you know,

intimating that an alien civilization put it there or it's remnants of an alien civilization, which is what I think we would all like to think, right, because that is the compelling part, that is the exciting part. But what he finished off by saying there in that 2009 interview is that, you know, God put it there or the universe put it there, meaning something naturally occurring. but it is interesting. So that's his thought on it, right? That is his take on it back in 2009, but they call it a monolith. So again, when we hear the word monolith, we get different pictures and different implications in our mind of what that might mean. We think about some type of manmade, if you will, structure or some type of remnant of an ancient civilization. Well, Buzz Aldrin actually, believe it or not, that I didn't even know this until I was, you know,

kind of really diving into this and researching this whole thing a couple of days ago before doing this episode here today. He actually spoke on this again. Six years later, he sat down with C-SPAN in 2015 and referenced that interview that I just played there from 2009. He referenced that and kind of elaborated on the whole thing. And I thought this was really good. good because it kind of ties everything together, gives it a complete thought. And, well, I think

it's important to hear as part of the conversation. So here's Buzz Aldrin in 2015, going back again talking about why is it called a monolith. What is it exactly? And maybe it's not natural. I don't know. Well, we'll talk about that. But here's what Buzz Aldrin had to say more back in 2015 about that 2009 clip. The photographs that we see by the sun casting a shadow and knowing exactly where the sun was at the time, the time the picture was taken, they can measure and come up with a calculation that this object was 90 meters high. Now that's a football field. Now in this study that the Canadians did, all the engineers contributing to the study, they felt that this was sufficiently unusual.

So they called it the monolith. It's still there. I've seen the pictures of that. So there you go. It's still there. He's seen the pictures. And of course, again, that was as of 11 years ago. But we know it's still there here in 2026. And the pictures have, you know, come out. If you've never seen the pictures, they are readily available online, and it's unmistakable. I mean, when you see this thing, I can understand why they did decide to call it a monolith because it literally resembles some type of ancient monolith. And he, so he boiled it down. How did it get that name?

Why are they calling it a monolith? Well, the size of it, the structure, it's a big rectangular structure. It's 300 feet high. As you heard her mentioned, just about the size of a football field, which is 300 feet. So that puts us at 30 stories. So this is a 30 story. Think about it this way. Think about a 30 story building, right? Just in any city or, you know, whatever town or that you've been in, you think about a 30 story building. That's what's just sitting there on the moon of Mars or on Mars. I mean, that's impressive. And that is a very compelling thought. So now that doesn't mean that

It can't be a naturally occurring structure. Mount Everest is well higher than 30 stories. It's well higher than 300 feet, as we know, and Mount Kilimanjaro, many other mountains around the world and naturally occurring structures are higher than 300 feet. So it's not out of the question that something could occur like that. What makes this particular case compelling is the look of this thing. Again, it has the look of, and I put, I underline in bold and I talism.

that. It has the look of a perfect right-angled rectangular structure which gives us the idea of something out of a space odyssey 2001, which gives us the idea of something that was intelligently crafted because

that would be pretty hard to have that, not impossible, but pretty hard to have that as a naturally occurring structure if that was the case. Now on the flip side, you have opponents who say, well, your eyes are playing tricks on you, the pictures that you see of this monolithic structure, where it looks

like it has these 90-degree perfect angles of a rectangular structure, that is not the case. Your eyes are playing tricks on you because of the distance from the camera taking the picture to the actual structure on Mars and the moon of Mars. So in that case, you have the other side of the saying, well, don't believe your eyes. And the other side says, well, it looks pretty clear to me. on what I'm looking at. Again, you can look this up, just put in, you know, monolithic structure on Mars or on the mood of Mars, and you'll see what I'm talking about if you've never seen these pictures before.

Now, looking at them like I have, it looks pretty darn strange. I can't say for sure whether we're looking at something that was intelligently crafted or whether it is a naturally occurring structure. But I can tell you that it certainly does look like it has some straight edges to it and some perfect 90-degree angles. And it's just this big structure just plaiting. planted right there under the ground. It's very odd, which is why they've been studying it for almost 30 years since they've discovered this back in 1998.

Now, he did, or Buzz Aldrin did have something else to say about this as he continued here in that clip. So I want to play this part as well, and we'll get the full story here from Buzz before we look at another monolithic structure that Lou Elizondo recently mentioned that caught some attention. But here's the rest of what Buzz had to say about this structure during his 2015 interview. And I think it strangely was a natural occurrence. No evidence, really, one way or the other. But it disturbed people that heard me describe this on C-SPAN quite a few years ago. All right, so there you go. So that covers it.

You heard there at the end, he's referencing that original C-SPAN. he's referencing that original C-SPAN interview we played from 2009 and he wanted to kind of I guess clear the air on it and talk about well where do this thing come from because and just to clear what I've been saying too maybe I was making confusing saying Mars or the moon of Mars Phobos structures have been photographed on both Mars and Phobos so the pictures that you see come from both the planet and the moon but he you know again references that saying you know some people were disturbed when they heard me say that about a monolith on Mars or the moon of Mars because

they think, well, obviously the first thing you're going to think about is, is this some type of ancient alien culture? And these are the, you know, the archaeological finds that are waiting there for us to go and explore and study. And his point was, overall, again, to clear the air on it and this long debated topic is, in his opinion, some type of naturally occurring structure. But he did make the important point. which is also something that I've said here today, which is that there's no clear evidence one way or the other.

Now, again, for perspective's sake, that was in 2015. Fast forward to current day here, and just within the past 10 days as of this recording, there are still reports out there and still studies. Again, just 10 days ago, something on News Nation, where they quote a physicist saying, these Mars monoliths are worth examining. So still to this day, this is something that people can't get a full grasp on and we don't have the clear answers one way or the other. All we have is, quite frankly, all we have is speculation for both arguments.

You know, you have science and scientists that say, well, this is naturally occurring. Next, that's not fair to say. You can't be so dismissive of it. We don't know. Have you stood in front of it? Have you studied it? Have you taken samples? you're guessing just like we are.

And that's the other thing too. Just because you're a scientist, quote unquote, I don't want to be spoken down to and say, well, you don't know what you're looking at. No, actually, I think I do. And you're way too dismissive of the other possibilities. So the point here is, let's keep the possibilities open because ever since this photo was taken,

or these photos were taken of Maras and Phobos, almost 30 years ago, we still don't have a clear answer as to what we're looking at. because again, there's no denying that when you look at these pictures, you know, make of it what you will, but to say that it's naturally occurring or it's some type of deformed rock formation that's been there for, you know, millions of years, and say that definitively, I don't think that's fair. Is it a possibility? Of course.

I think we've covered that. But we shouldn't discount the other possibility as well that maybe there is something else to this. It's up to you. It's very interesting, though. And again, it's something that thing that I find most interesting. thing I think is that it's still spoken about a mysterious way today. We still don't have a clear enough answer on it anyway. You know, when you go to start a business, here's the great thing with Shopify. Everything you need is right there ready for you from day one. Shopify has step one

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and very well known as one of the big voices in this field. He was speaking with the Japanese Council on UAPs. And this is something, just as a side note, is something really interesting when it comes to what Japan is doing. I'm keeping an eye on Japan, and I've mentioned this in passing a couple of times over the past couple of months, because they are gaining more steam,

they're gaining more traction, they're gaining more interest, open. public interest within their government sector when it comes to studying UFOs, reports of UAPs, the history of this all. And they have their own files that they're looking at releasing too. And they're looking at what we're doing here in America. They're looking at what the American government is doing and kind of trying to figure out if they're going to follow suit. So, you know, they're looking at America as kind of like the leader on this issue and how we play

are file drops and, you know, our hearings and things like that. And they're very much paying attention very closely to what's happening because, like I said, they have their own story to tell. And actually, they brought on Louelizondo for a virtual conference. And he had a lot to say with them. And I know he's very interested in this subject as well about what Japan is doing, what they're willing to put out there and what they're willing to make public in their own investigations.

and he kind of dropped a, well, a little bit of a nugget here that people weren't expecting to hear. He says there's pictures of a monolith on our moon, the moon of Earth. It caught a lot of people off guard. Here's what Lou had to say. There's also photographs that I don't believe have been made public yet that show on the lunar surface what appear to be large, monolithic structures with right angle cuts that appear to be

on the lunar surface. And I believe those photographs, if they have not been released yet, may be released soon. But they are certainly very intriguing looking at these objects from space. You know what? I'm actually glad I listened back to that there with you because there was something

that I didn't I guess catch before. And that is he used plural monolithic. structures, right angle cuts. I didn't notice before. I was just thinking, you know, one monolithic thing. I mean, he says monolithic structures.

Now, whether that's a slip of the tongue by loo or whether it's a generalization, maybe there is just one. But he did use the plural there. So that implies, of course, that there is more than one monolithic structure with right cut angles on the moon, on our moon. Now, we haven't seen those photos. He's right. We all be very, very interested to see those photos.

Maybe that's something that NASA is going to release one day, possibly, or maybe something that would hopefully possibly maybe come out in the new trench of UFO files from the White House. I think that would be trance number five that we're waiting on, which if they stay on schedule, would most likely be this upcoming Friday, as we listen to this now, this upcoming Friday on July 31st. So I would not be surprised to see that happen. if it does happen, I will most likely not be commenting on it too much on that day because I'm actually going away for the weekend. So that's neither here nor there. But you never know. Maybe I'll pop on a video or something like that. Depends on what comes out if anything comes out at all.

But that's just me thinking out loud. So when it comes to that, though, very interesting teaser there by Lou. When it's, you know, what is he seen? Now, is that something that people are saying, hey, Lou, this exists? or has Lou looked at it? Now, my guess would be that he has seen these. He knows at least that they exist. So he's willing to put it out there that this is something that exists and it has not come out yet.

We'd all be very, very intrigued to see those photos and just let us judge for ourselves. Now, are we talking about maybe some type of higher resolution than what we saw with Mars or with Phobos where, you know, It is a little blurry, so it could be more subjective. Are these high-resolution pictures of right-angle-cut monolithic structures on our moon, where it's hard to refute that this is something that was intelligently made? Maybe, or it could be a far-away picture that's blurry. I guess time will tell, hopefully, that maybe we'll get to see these things one day. But just to know that the idea, you know, to know the idea that these pictures exist,

that someone knows about these things, you can't help but to be very intrigued by it all. I think it's very compelling and it catches my attention, that's for sure. We want to see these pictures of a monolithic structure's on the moon. What's out there? Did the Artemis astronauts see it? Did Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin see it? Now, he didn't allude to that, Buzz Aldrin in the clips that we played,

but it makes you wonder what they did see, which also kind of brings me back to another point. And I do have to be a little bit careful about how I say this next one because I don't want to give away names because it's not my story to tell. So if I can tell it without saying anything too specific, then I'm going to do that here. But I was told firsthand by someone who was speaking firsthand conversations with Buzz Aldrin. Someone within this sphere that does work in the UAP space. someone you would know it's not an obscure person by any means

and this person was telling me that they were trying to get an on-camera testimony and on-camera statement is probably probably the better word his testimony might imply this is something congressional wise

where they wanted him to swear under oath or something like that and on-camera statement saying what he saw while he was in space Now, that was going to happen, according to this person who told me that they were very, very close. They were working on it with Buzz Aldrin, and he was about to do it, and he was working with his family. He was going to do it.

He was going to go on camera. He was going to talk about the things that he saw that he couldn't explain. Again, this is firsthand conversation I had with someone who says they had these first-hand conversations with Buzz Aldrin. So very, very important to keep in mind there. This isn't just something I read on Twitter. These conversations were told to me directly that this happened. And it was about to go down. Buzz Aldrin was going to go on camera for the first and only time and say,

here's what I saw in space that I couldn't explain. And unfortunately, at the very last minute on the day this on-camera interview was going to take place, Buzz canceled. He got cold feet. He didn't like the idea of being ostracized or being looked at in a funny way or being thought of differently. by anybody. He didn't want to take any part in it anymore. He felt it wasn't worth the risk professionally or, I guess, personally.

Or, or somebody got to him. Can't say for sure. What I can say for sure is that, according to the person who told me this, Buzz has seen things. And he's never really fully explained that in a public manner. I can only hope, and I doubt he will, but I can only hope that maybe he has some type of statement prepared. Maybe upon his passing that, and I'm not wishing for that by any means, but maybe upon

his passing that some statement will come out, you know, some type of deathbed confessional. I don't know. I mean, my guess is he probably takes whatever he saw with him to his grave. If he hasn't said it now, he may not say it at all. But I can tell you from first-hand conversation that I had with someone who has spoken to Buzz Aldrin that there is more that he hasn't said. And we may never hear it, unfortunately. But It does make you think. What is he hiding? And do those pictures exist from NASA or whoever has them?

You would think NASA because it involves our moon. But, man, it's all stuff that I wanted to throw out there today. This is all stuff that's been in my head. And I wanted to put out there for you here today on this episode of UAP. So I hope that you find it as intriguing as I do because there's some pretty crazy stuff to think about. And even if you go back to someone like Gary McKinnon, remember Gary McKinnon, And I mean, you know, he's basically still in hiding for hacking into the NASA computers way back when. And he says that, you know, he saw all the documents there talking about alien cooperation, alien employees at NASA, all the files that they're hiding, all the knowledge that they have of alien bases and all these different things when it comes to, you know, extraterrestrial life and space on the moon, on the planet, on other planets.

I mean, he put it all out there. Gary McKinnon's accounts have always been a point of contention. Maybe that's something that'll cover more in depth another time or maybe even even. and try to get Gary on the show. He's kind of elusive, but you never know, I guess. But it is worth considering, right, when we talk about all this, how does Gary McKinnon's accounts play into all this? Maybe he was onto something if we're talking about things like this.

And I also wonder out loud, you know, if things like this are true with these structures, then is that a reason why we seem to be on an accelerated pace to get back to the moon all of a sudden after 60 years almost of not being there? Is that the reason or maybe one of the reasons why? Because they know that they can only keep these things a secret so much longer. I've speculated about this in the past, but it's worth bringing up again during this conversation. It could be a possible reason why we see this accelerated pace to get back to the moon,

to build bases, to do all these different things. Now, of course, we could also talk about what China and Russia try to do, so we want to try to be the first to do all these things, you know, a new space race. Just geopolitically speaking, that does make sense. But you can't help but to think that maybe there is some type of, you know, hidden agenda there. Let's get to it before they find out on their own.

Let's control the narrative. So we have this accelerated space program. Let's get to the moon. Let's do all these different things. Let's drop UFO files for the first time ever. Make of those files what you will, but they are happening for the first time. So just a question worth bringing up a connection to what we're talking about here today. And one last point that I can't help but to think about too before we're done.

And yes, this is a little bit of a shorter episode, but that's fine as long as we get the point across. I hope you enjoy it. But another point that comes to mind that I have to mention is the remote viewer, the famous remote viewer for the Army and the CIA, Joe McMonigle. I did a, you know, what was it, a two or three part series on him back a couple of years ago? super fascinating guy incredible story if you've never heard that by all means go back and listen to those episodes because I did a total deep dive into the life of joe mcmonigle so just go back and listen to those if you search through the archives of uap if you don't remember if you've never heard those that's that's a guy or maybe I'll even re-release on the greatest hits but if you want to go back

and listen by all means but that's a guy who in you know one instance said that he remote viewed mars it's a very famous story of his that I covered in those episodes. They were, he remote viewed Mars and looked back, you know, over a million years back into the past and saw all these, you know, giant structures on Mars and these very tall human-like beings who were living on Mars over a million years ago. And they were dying out and the planet was dying. And they had all these giant structures.

So if we're talking about that, again, just connecting the dots of past stories, if there is something to that, what Joe McMonigle said in that remote viewing session, then maybe we can connect that to these monolithic, so to speak, structures that were photographed on Mars and on its moon phobos. Just putting it out there into the universe when it comes to possible connections here. It's hard not to at least connect those dots and ask, ask the questions, which is what we always love to do here on UAP, right? Ask the questions, raise the possibilities, and let's have fun talking about together. In other words, back to basics.

Keep it simple, stupid. And I'm glad we're able to do that here without any of the drama that is out there in the UFO world these days. So hopefully you enjoyed this one. Just sitting down talking about this and thinking about all the possibilities here with these reports of monoliths in space. So be sure to come back again soon here on UAP. Always something cooking here.

Always something coming up. So be sure to follow along on social media and wherever you get your podcasts. and again, try to stay out of the fray on social media that I spoke about earlier, but to follow along at UA Podcast 850 and all of the channels of Twitter and TikTok and Instagram. YouTube, just search UAP podcast. You'll find it there. Putting up some stuff and you could always keep up there as well. And, of course, always just keeping up on all the podcasting streaming channels.

Apple, Amazon, Spotify, just search UAP, UAP podcast. It will come up and subscribe and download and keep up. keep coming back because I always appreciate that. If you keep coming back, then I'll keep coming back. That's always been the deal I've had with you. So I can't wait to do that again in the future. And I'm also getting excited. I will say this for the final thing.

I'm starting to get it, and I hesitate to say this, because you never know how things can change. But I am excited, so I'm going to say it. I'm getting excited about a new project. Now, I know in the past UAP investigates that's still on the shelf. If it ever comes out, I'll let you know. But there's a totally new project. project that I've been working on behind the scenes has nothing to do with UFOs, has nothing

to do with the alien topic. But it is supernatural in its core. It is beyond reason in its core. And I'm excited for it. And it's a new project. It's going to be a new podcast, actually. It hasn't been finalized yet. So I don't want to get your hopes up.

In fact, I don't even want to get my own hopes up. But it is something that I'm working on behind the scenes. and I hope that by talking about it here today, maybe by putting it onto the universe, this actually does come through and I can follow through on this and everything kind of lines up. The stars align where I can put out this new product on a new conversation that I'm really, really excited to talk about.

I'm really passionate about it. The stories are something that I've been fascinated by since I was a child. I mean, I'm talking like seven years old with some of this stuff. and so to have the opportunity to talk about that subject, which, yes, I'm being vague on purpose, because I don't want to reveal it yet, but to have an opportunity to talk about a subject like that,

that's still in this kind of the supernatural realm, really, really excites me, and I hope I can bring it to you soon. So I will keep you up to date on that new project, really, that new show. And hopefully, and I won't stop doing this. I'm not saying I'm replacing UAP with something new. I'm just going to have two shows, is the plan. So, you know, like I'm not busy enough.

That's all. I'll just try to juggle another show and create something new. Why not? I love doing it. So let's keep it going. But I'll keep you updated on that. And anything else that comes up, like I said, follow along through all the social media channels and wherever you get your podcast for UAP. So until next time, it is Stephen Dean here saying thank you again so much for everything, for always coming back and for all the kind words because it really does mean the world to me that you do that.

So until next time, it's Stephen Dean here here. saying, be well. Thanks so much. We'll talk again soon right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Thanks.