UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 231 UFO File Release #6 - Recap and Review

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

The US government just dropped the newest UFO file tranche and Stephen Diener is here to break it all down in this impromptu episode! New video reveals, acknowledgements from Air Force officials of real sightings in the 1950's, and a 22 million dollar "smoking gun" are just some of the highlights to go over...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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mixed reviews mixed responses but as always i'm going to try to bring it to you here as it has come out today i'm going to go over some of the things that have caught my eye and then kind of dig into a couple of other files that I haven't even opened up yet and see what we can discover here together today and see how this works out. So first things first, I want to go over the a couple of things that I know for sure are worth going over here. Some of the things that I've been studying over the past hour or so. And one of them concerns a document and an audio recording that actually Eric Burleson and others have been fighting to get out to the public for a while now. and that was something called the 1952 Flying Saucer Talk.

What is the Flying Saucer Talk? There is a transcript and there's an audio recording. And again, this was something that they've been working on, trying to get out to the public for a while. And it refers to a lot of the UFO reports that they were seeing between 1950 and 1954, but specifically in 1952, where you have the famous lights over the Capitol incident. One thing that had been talked about in the past was that these were actually shot at, Jacques Valet had told James Fox about this, and Jacques Valet was told about it by his source within Washington, who said that these were actually shot at back in 1952, and a piece of debris was collected and then studied in secret by the U.S. government and contractors.

We know how that story goes. So that is one thing that we're not sure about that still as far as confirmation from the UFO transcripts in the trench that has come out. that part wasn't confirmed, but that is a story that has gone around a long time about those sightings and that specific one over the Capitol in 1952. Of course, the group of UFOs, the lights over the Capitol, very famous. But something very interesting that has been known about that is that, of course, you know, the truth has been hidden for a long time about that incident. Until today, where now we finally see and hear the transcript that basically admits

that they don't know what that was. A lot of it, you know, was tried, they tried to sweep it under the rug. They tried to, you know, kind of just characterize it as a big nothing burger, right? They tried to say, you know, this was a case of mistaken identity or it's birds, it's weather balloons, it's this, it's that, it's swamp gas, it's light reflecting off of Venus, all the different things they've said over the years about UFO sightings.

And this one was no different. But now we finally see the transcript and we finally hear the talk about some of these things that were being seen in the early phase. and the flying saucers, you know, including the lights over the Capitol. I want to read some of it. This was actually directly from the Department of War site. The file is DOW, UAP, PR 160. And it's the presentation by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, 1952.

And it says on the website here, it says this audio file, and I do have a couple of the audio clips I'm going to play here. It says this audio file records a March 1952 presentation by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt outlining the U.S. Air Force's reorganized investigation into UFOs. The presentation previews prospective technical methodologies such as diffraction grading, photography, and radar scope synchronization that were subsequently incorporated into Project Blue Book. Of course, we know about that. 1952 and 1969 investigated all the UFO reports. Rupbelt explains that out of approximately 800 historical cases reviewed by the Air Force, approximately 20% remained unexplained after technical analysis.

These unresolved reports were sourced from credible military personnel, commercial pilots, and other qualified technical observers. He does go in to say that, by the way, the audio recording of this flying saucer talk that finally came out today, it's an hour long. long. So if you go on to listen to it, make sure you have some time. I got through about half of it, and I cherry picked a couple of segments here that I wanted to play for you. It goes on to say he highlights geographic report concentrations around sensitive national security and nuclear weapons installations. Sound familiar to today, right? He talks about

Los Alamos, spots in Albuquerque, Oak Ridge, National Laboratories. He talks and notes recurring anomalous characteristics, including silent high-speed flight and radar detections indicating unconfirmed air speeds between, get this, 1,000 and 3,500 miles per hour. So he talked about this during his briefing there to, you know, Air Force officials, government officials talking about what they found. He emphasized that the Air Force found no conclusive evidence regarding the nature or origin of the phenomena.

Rupbelt underscores the national security need for a systemic physical data collection effort to better evaluate these sightings. And of course, that turned into Project Blue Book. So, you know, and the rest is history, as they say. That is, but that was a short summary of the one hour recording. And that summary again, coming from the war.gov slash UFO website where this sixth government tranche lies. This, I do want to play a couple of clips, though, from that recording.

And this first one talks about some of the unexperienced, you know, some of the unexperienced, explain sightings that they were having and how they're characterized. And you can almost hear him, you know, he's trying to rationalize and say, basically, we're not really sure how to characterize some of these things. So here's that first clip here from this now declassified flying saucer talk with Captain Edward J. Ruppelt. There's one small segment in here, which is only six-tenths of one percent of all 800 reports, and that is reports of groups of lights going through the sky.

And we've had quite a bit of difficulty with those because the reports are usually from pretty good sources, and they'll see, oh, anywhere from six to 20 lights in a formation going streaking across the sky. Well, it's almost impossible that you would find six meteors together. I understand it's possible to see two of them together that would appear to be in formation, but no more than that. So really fascinating to hear that because you're listening to this talk of how, you know, In 1952, they're talking about these formations with bright lights that they can't explain. And he's acknowledging, you know, not really sure what it is because we know it's not meteors. So what are we looking at?

They go on to now talk about the flying saucers here. And really interesting to listen to, again, given a perspective that this is, what, let me do some quick math here, what, 70, right? 74 years ago, 1952 to 2026. Yeah, that's, that's wild. That's 74 years ago. So here's this clip now with Captain Edward J. Rupbelt, where he's talking about the types of shapes, including flying saucers that they're seeing,

and they're trying to figure out what these could be. Getting back to this disc or spherical-shaped objects, these things are always silent. I mean, if we want to assume that this object we're dealing with is a disc-shaped thing, these are always silent, and they're usually highly maneuverable, although lately the reports that have been coming in have neglected to put this 90 degree turn business in, they just go over at a great rate of

speed. But the fact that they're silent is quite interesting because we have no knowledge of any type of power plant that would be completely silent. So fascinating to listen to that because it really sounds like a recording that could have been done just last week. I mean, talking about all the same things that we mentioned. Today, you know, it kind of reminds me of like talking about the previous episodes or one of the previous episodes about, you know, the reports out of China over the past 1,000 years and how it sounds just like the stuff that we talk about today. And that's 1,000 years ago or 500 years ago. Now, in this case, it's in the 50s. So it's about 70 years ago. But still, you're hearing the same things, right? Whether it's 1,500, or 70 years ago, we're talking about highly maneuverable, 90 degree angles and turns, high rates of speed, these spherical shapes or distance. shaped craft that are seen in the sky that people can't explain how they're moving, why they're

moving that way, what they're seeing. It's unlike anything they've ever seen before. You heard the captain say there that the silence factor is something that was very confounding to them because as you heard a mention at the end of the clip saying that we don't have any power plants. Of course, that has a different meaning when we think about it today. We think about, you know, different power plants. But he's in terms of, you know, technology and and specific terminology at the time, of course, talking about what type of technology they had, what type of power sources they had that would be able to create silent propulsion. And he is saying there in the talk that we don't have anything like that and we don't know of

anything like that. And by the way, we say the same things now. Now, is it possible in 2026 that we do have, that we have mastered some type of silent propulsion? and it's just under wraps in some type of, you know, black budget R&D projects. Of course that's possible. It's possible that we developed it 20 years ago and we still don't know about it. But we didn't have it in 1952. I can tell you that.

I think we can all agree on that. And that is something that the captain there is stressing. Again, he's saying that, you know, this was a classified briefing. So in a classified briefing in 1952, if he was. is able to say, hey, you know what, this is probably one of our projects that we're working on. We have this silent propulsion technology that we've been kind of playing around with. So that could be our thing. And yeah, it's spherical and it's, you know, a disc shape.

So that's probably ours. So we could probably file that one away under one of our R&D projects. No. Again, in a classified setting, he didn't say that because there's no such thing. If there was, he would have been free to say that in a classified sense. setting, but you hear him saying there that we have no power plants like this, and we don't know of any that exist. So it really incredible perspective to listen to that and think about what that means in terms of today. And of course, like we said at the start, what it meant then in

1952, what they were dealing with with like, you know, the lights over the Capitol. And there's a couple of things outside of that, too. I just want to read his statement here as well before I move on to the next thing, because this really probably was the highlight of the entire file release, but I am going to go over a couple of other things here today that definitely need to be mentioned. A couple of videos, be honest with you, some of the videos are pretty underwhelming, but there are a couple that I want to touch on, one of them from 1952 actually. But just to finish up with Captain Rutbelt here, his statements that a lot of people have gravitated towards since this file dropped, just to read through the whole thing. Some of it you might have heard in a

couple of the clips already, but he goes, we've gone through these reports and come up with the fact that about 20% are very good reports offered by very reliable people and are just absolutely no conclusions can be drawn. Now, just real quick, I want to interject the people who are giving the reports, the very reliable people. I want to stress that because he goes on and he says only about 2% were hoaxes or psychopathological reports. Mass hysteria, he said, no longer held water. He said newspapers had stopped playing the subject up for years and still the reports continued to come in.

He said the remaining unexplained cases came from military personnel, airline pilots, tower operators, balloon crews, scientists, and engineers. So he really stressed that during that talk about how these reports were coming in at a time where newspapers weren't playing it up. Okay, so we talk about the mass hysteria or people, now we would call it. clickbait or people trying to engagement farming. They're trying to get in on the hot topic. So they're going to start saying that they saw something.

They'll do TikTok or Instagram videos. No, none of that existed. And that version of 1952 would have been your local newspaper buying into some hypermass hysteria to sell newspapers. But they weren't even doing that anymore is what he's saying. So, you know, kind of taking that into account, he's saying it's kind of strange, even though this isn't being hyped up anymore, we're still getting reports of this stuff.

So he noted that. And he noted, of course, the type of people who were telling him what they were seeing, military personnel, airline pilots, tower operators, balloon crews, scientists, engineers. He said that the disk or spherical shape objects were always silent. We heard him mention that there during the clip. Highly maneuverable. Detective of having speeds between 1,000 miles per hour to 3,500 miles per hour. Again, they're seeing this in 1952, okay?

the SR 7-2 or the SR-7-1 Blackbird, excuse me, didn't exist in 1952, so we know that it wasn't that going that fast. And the U-2 spy plane, I'm trying to think, was that around 1952? I don't think so. But anyway, Ruppelt said that the sightings clustered around sensitive areas. We mentioned that Los Albuquerque, Oak Ridge, and Tennessee. Of course, that was a big spot when it came to the, you know, evolution of the atomic bomb. He said that the concentrations also appeared near ports in other military areas.

Hello, again, sound familiar, same stuff we talk about today. And it was going on back then, as we know. He stressed that the Air Force had found no conclusive evidence of nature or origin and that the country needed systemic physical data collection. So we went through some of that already. I apologize for some of the repeat here. I'm just trying to go through all this and figure out what's new and what needs to be pointed out here as everything has come out in real time today.

But he really highlighted the sources. He said about the sources, again, the airline pilots. He went on to say in the recording that this was really significant because in his words, if they encountered a V2 flying wingtip to wingtip over Spokane, then they wouldn't tell anybody about it. He's made the analogy saying that people would think they were crazy. It's the same stuff we say now with pilots. They don't want to, they don't want to fly a desk, is the term, right?

They don't want to be grounded. They don't want to be thought of as the crazy person who's seeing things. And now they're not mentally or physically fit to fly because they're seeing things in the sky. Whether it was a V2 rocket or a UFO. His point was these are the people who never say anything about what they see for fear of losing their jobs. And those are the people who are coming to him telling them about these spherical objects and these saucer-shaped objects going incredible speeds, making impossible maneuvers that are silent. And of course, again, coming to the conclusion that they had no conclusion. So that's what really made that part of the drop here significant today was getting to hear that inside information from 70 plus years ago and know that how seriously they were taking this.

And there was more to be seen. And of course, they were just kind of, you know, on the surface saying nothing to be seen here. And they tried to downplay it. But behind the scenes, they were absolutely concerned because they had no idea what they were dealing with. that quite frankly, it still seems like we don't really know what we're dealing with in some circles anyway. Obviously, in other circles, it seems like some people do know, which we'll get to here in just a few minutes.

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And this was one that actually hit the airwaves this morning on Fox News. Peter Ducey was reporting on it about how this video has come out about 1952 UFO swarm, these lights that were investigated heavily by the air. Air Force flying over Utah. Now this video is part of the tranche drop and it actually has come out before. So someone had pointed out on social media that was part of actually a 1956 documentary. So this isn't a new video. It's just kind of one that hasn't been seen a lot in modern times.

But it is pretty interesting. I mean, it shows a lot of these, you know, kind of discs flying through the air, you know, lights in the sky. if you will. It kind of looks like, it's weird, it looks like big mylar balloons, all kind of bunched together, disorganized,

but it wasn't mylar balloons, although some people speculate that was the finding that they came out with. There was really no official resolution to this, though. The video isn't the best quality, obviously. And you can check it out, though.

It's, of course, on the war.org. It's, of course, on the war.org.com slash UFO site. it's the file PR 159 historical film of reported UFOs Utah in 1952 is the title on that

it says the film's limited detail and lack of fixed reference points prevented a conclusive resolution it says from the 55 second mark onward the film transitions to unrelated footage appearing to show a demonstration of sewing equipment which I just watched and I had no idea what I was seen so I'm glad I read that

because I was like is this footage of them trying to like, you know, reverse engineer some wreckage from that? Like, no, it was some sewing machine. I'm not really sure why they showed that. It really, I don't think, has anything to do with it. Were they trying to sew something back together? But it goes on to say on

the UFO.gov or the war.gov slash UFO site here, this archival footage is a digitization of a 16 millimeter print of Kota Chrome color motion picture film shot on a handheld bell and howl auto master camera.

near Trementon, Utah on July 2nd, 1952. It was shot by U.S. Navy Chief Warrant Officer Delbert C. Newhouse. So pretty famous name when it comes to this reel, you know, the chief warrant officer there at Newhouse. He reported observing and filming a group of bright airborne objects, and shortly thereafter, submitted the footage to the U.S. Air Force, and it became one of the visual cases reviewed by Project Blue Book. of course during its run from officially on the books 1952 to 1969.

So that is one of the things that has come out in the trance and was on the news this morning. They were talking about that video kind of highlighting that the government has released that one. It is, it's a very strange looking thing. It's hard to tell exactly what you're looking at, but it's like this swarm of flights.

They're kind of moving around very oddly. But you can take a look. If you've never seen that video, you can take a look at that on the website there. But really, a lot of those you know, reveals from the 1950s were one of the most significant parts. I think as far as, you know, as far as my initial review goes here

of this release. There are some interesting videos, like I said, that I'm going to go through here before we're done and some stuff from OSAP as well that we're going to go over to talk about their newly declassified renderings of their ambitious projects that they were trying to undertake. This stuff is wild, science fiction type stuff.

And it makes you wonder, you know, what kind of technology were they working with to try to get these things done. But all in all, these are the types of things, these long sought after documents. When they finally come out, it shows really what we thought they would in the end, right? Which is basically that the government and the military, the investigators there, that they knew what they were dealing with. Or maybe I should say that they were dealing, that they didn't know what they were dealing with. It actually shows that they were dealing with something that they couldn't explain. but of course they tried to play it off as if it was nothing and really the main point to get

across here is that it's the same type of reports right it's it's a really kind of highlight the most important parts of this initial these initial findings the same type of reports and the same type of procedures going from 1952 to now meaning the stuff that they were seen as far as the observables as we come to know them now when these spheres these flying discs, as they say, the saucer-shaped craft, what they were seeing from those, and the procedures, meaning how did they handle it in the public and behind the scenes? So not much has changed over the past 70 years as far as what we've been seeing, how we've been handling it, and not knowing really what to do from there.

Again, now the question is, 70 years later, how many people do know at least some of what we're dealing with and what has been recovered? and worked on over the past 70 years. Those are the questions, of course, that remain unanswered, and that's, of course, that we want to get answers to ultimately. But that said, let's go ahead and take a look at some of these videos that I came across to. Again, most of them underwhelming,

but there are a couple that are worth mentioning here. This one is file number PR-135, titled Middle East 2025. And the description says, United States Central Command submitted a report of a UAP to Arrow, all domain anomaly resolution office, consisting of one minute of video footage from an infrared sensor aboard a U.S. military platform in 2025. In short, that means fleer footage from probably a drone would be my guess,

but it also could be from an F-16, F-18, 22, whatever you want to say, an F-35, who knows, any type of fighter jet craft. It shows what is described as six small spherical objects grouped together and characterized their behavior as seemingly agile, is what the report ended up saying. They characterized it as frequently changing direction. And the reporter estimated the speed of the UAP to have been somewhere around 480 miles per hour. That's pretty fast. Of course, not out of the realm of possibility for a fighter jet, but, This doesn't seem like any type of fighter yet because these look like spheres.

These look like orbs, which is what they were reported as. And watching the video, it is very strange. They move in and out. There are six of them as they watch it now. Do a little play by play. And they're moving in and out. They don't fly like birds. They're not steady in formation.

They're kind of weaving in and out of each other. At one point, they group into two groups of three, almost making a triangle formation between the two groups, where they're each in a triangle formation and then they quickly group back together in this cluster. It is really interesting actually. I just paused it on this part by accident and it's pretty crazy.

They make two perfect like Chevron shaped formations right, that V formation really, really interesting. I did not mean to pause it on that part but I just kind of happenstance there. They come together separately to form these two distinct V formations.

One group of three, another group of three, these orbs, left to right, side by side, and then the one on the right veers back over and clusters back again. It's a strange video. This one, this one's good. It doesn't seem like balloons. It doesn't seem like birds. Again, these are not flying like birds. I don't know. You can take a look at this one for yourself. This is D-O-W-U-A-P-R-135. It's one of the videos. There's about, I don't know, maybe 12 videos or so that were released, and this was one of them there that is definitely worth taking a look at. I'm not going to lie.

This one is D-O-W-U-A-P, of course, it's just understood. That's what they're all going to be named. PR-133. Again, this one is in the Middle East in 2025. The report goes to say on this one, it's a four-minute and a 58-second video. Again, Fleer footage, infrared sensor, aboard a U.S. military platform. This was on New Year's Day 2025, accompanying mission report, oh, I'm sorry, the video accompanies the mission report D107. And it describes the

UAP as looking like a white round orbit moving as fast as 500 miles per hour. So estimated similar speed to the one that we just spoke about there. Makes you wonder if it was the same craft just caught on a different day. Who knows, right? But this video is interesting. This is just one craft, but it's zooming, man. I mean, this thing is moving. And you can really tell on this one that this thing is just flying like crazy and it's veering in and out. It's not flying in a straight line. It's moving like a ping pong ball is how I would describe this one. It's very unusual for sure. So I would say definitely take a look at this one. PR133. Absolutely take a look at this one, war.gov slash UFO. See, I'm not like a lot.

lot of other people who will trash the videos and just say, until I see an alien, I'm not going to be impressed. Listen, I would love to see video of an alien, okay, a verifiable one. I'm not talking about the ones that we fight over. Verifiable from a government apparatus where they release it and say, here's an alien. I would love to see that too. But I also understand that we have to work with what we're given. And I also understand, and this is a very fair point to make that I did want to make here today. So I'll say it right now before I forget, which is they absolutely are holding back. They have been holding back. I think I mentioned that after the fifth trance drop. Anthony Williams has made that very clear to me. He said it here on the show. He said in a private

conversation. He knows for sure they are holding back the good stuff, so to speak, and they are giving us things to kind of hold us over until maybe they show us the good stuff one day. But that's not to say, even with that in mind. And that is a fact. That is knowledge that we should all have. that they are giving us, you know, bits of the low-hanging fruit. That's really what this is. But with that said, at least we're getting the low-hanging fruit these days. Okay, so I try to stay positive. I try to be a glass-half-fold type of guy.

And even though it is not the quote-unquote good stuff, it is still pretty good and still interesting enough to look at and say, hey, I have really no idea what I'm seeing here and neither did they. And that's the important part for me. So I would say that this video falls under that category. Oh, wow, this thing just went zooming. Holy cow. So I'm sorry, I didn't expect to see that.

The apparatus zoomed in and it was trying to get a closer look on this object. And it just went, shoo! I don't know if it actually made that sound, but that's what it sounds like in my head. It just zoomed right by the camera. Very, very fast. That was crazy. So I would say definitely take a look at this one. File.

PR-133 is one of the videos that they drew. dropped on this this latest tranche. Pretty good, I would say. Those two that I've mentioned so far, pretty darn impressive. Others may not think so, but I think it is. So that's my take on those two videos right there. And of course, there are other videos. By all means, feel free to take a look through them.

It's kind of underwhelming, like I said before, so I'm not going to really spend a lot of time on them. It's not anything out of the ordinary that we haven't seen before. as far as, you know, as far as, you know, just some glowing lights in the sky. You can't really tell what it is. What are you looking at? It's kind of blurry footage. So if you want to go look at it, I'm not stopping you.

I'm just saying it's not really worth the time to go over here on this episode of this recap of the sixth tranche. Now, all that said, the last thing I want to go through here today are the Ossap documents. Of course, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program, which is why we just call it Ossap. because there's a ton that came out from this and a lot of it is stuff that they were working on. I mean, this is crazy stuff. When you look at it, this is like things you would see in science fiction, you know, movies or, you know, Star Trek or something.

You look at some of these things. You look at the titles here of some of these, you know, classified documents that were released from OSAP, this technology that they were working on, like this one here. I'm just going to start clicking on some of these and see what happened. and see what we can find out from them. This one says invisibility cloaking theory and experiments March 2010.

Let's take a look at this bad boy. Wow, okay, there's some pictures here, and it looks like they were trying to make somebody invisible. This is crazy. They have a diagram of how this would work. They have a picture of a guy showing him, I guess, what it would look like if he was turning invisible, or is that him actually turning invisible?

They call it camouflage or optical camouflaging developed at University of Tokyo's Tech Laboratory. This is wild. So it goes on to see here. Let's read through this. They're called durds. I know it sounds like a funny name. DIRD Defense Intelligence Reference Documents.

So there's a lot of these dirds from OSAP. It's a technical reference format that they use. it's used by the defense intelligence agency of course as we know as the DIA and we've spoken about them many times before as far as what role they play in the secrecy of UAPs and the reverse engineering aspect of all that and this was one of the 38 dirds that were produced under OSEP

and sent out to the corresponding, you know, agencies. Now, they do stress in this document release that even though these documents are being released, and they're showing what they were working on, it doesn't necessarily mean that they were successful in what they were working on. So we're not told of what we actually, you know, have some of this technology,

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to start your free trial today. It shows, let's see here, it says, it describes several ways an object might be hidden from visual or sensor detection, including camouflage, transparency effects, and optical cloaking that bends light around an object. I have heard about that before, and I know that the Air Force has worked on that

with optical cloaking. It goes on to say it focuses mainly on metamaterials, negative refraction and transformation optics and reviews experiments that had already demonstrated limited cloaking at microwave frequencies. The report continues to say the report argues that imperfect cloaking is physically achievable in some parts of the electromagnetic spectrum, especially for microwaves. But that perfect cloaking is not practical because it would require material properties that conflict with the underlying physics.

So they're saying it wasn't physically possible to actually cloak. Its overall conclusion is that cloaking is a scientific field with plausible narrow applications, but that useful visible light cloaking depends more on future theoretical breakthroughs than on conventional advances in material sciences. So in short, in layman's terms, this report from, or this dird from March 2010, is basically saying they think it's a cool idea, but they're not really sure how viable it is because they can't figure out how to do it right now.

Makes you wonder what they've been able to figure out over the past 16 years, though. This one is called Pulse High Power Microwave Source Technology. Should we take a look at this one? Why not? Oh, this is interesting. This actually comes up with a document that shows a Humvee with like this hexagonal shape on it,

resembling something like a big satellite, but it's not a satellite. This is some type of like directed energy weapon, which is really interesting concerning what we've heard over the past, this past year about directed energy weapons coming out from the Department of War and the State Department and how they've used it to take down drones. Remember when they closed the airport in Mexico?

And they said it was like this laser weapon. They were taking down drones with. Now, whether or not that was the case, I don't know. But we know that a vehicle like this exists where they can now use, you know, like directed pulses, directed energy weapons. I mean, that's a real thing. So apparently this is a look back at the dirt concerning this technology when they were first bringing it up.

That's pretty interesting. So this is D121, if you want to take a look at this. But here's another one I wanted to touch on, because I was reading this earlier. It's called aerospace applications of programmable matter. And what they were trying to do here, it's an awesome idea. And I do wonder, because this came out, December 2009 was when they had this particular dirt. If you want to look at it, it's file number D118 in the Ossap Dird release here, December 14th, 2009.

And they're talking about how they're trying to figure out using applications of programmable matter. They wanted to use it, of course, for warfare and for space technology. when it comes to like, you know, repair is on the International Space Station or any type of spacecraft that we put up. Instead of having to physically repair something, they proposed trying to figure out a way to build programmable material that could change into something else on demand. It's really cool. So now again, they didn't come to any conclusions. They figured that it wasn't viable because they couldn't, you know, figure it out with current day technology. So one of those things again, kind of like with the cloaking, what else have they figured out over the past 17 years?

And it makes you wonder if they continued working on this, which I don't see why they wouldn't, because most of the time these are things that they continue to work on for years. Some of these actually talk about like 50 year contracts or 50 year studies where they say they're going to be working on this and trying to figure things out. So who's to say that they're not still working on now or haven't made some type of advancements with cloaking or programmable math? matter. Wild, wild stuff. It's incredible. There was one other one here, though, that I also wanted to touch on. And a document that came out, too, that shows that $22 million worth of research that was ordered by former or late Senator Harry Reid essentially disappeared. I got to mention that before we're done. I actually almost forgot about that. And that actually is a huge thing from this drop that people are talking about. And I want to mention that.

before we're done. But just a couple more of these dirds from offset because I just find this so intriguing that some of the stuff that they were working on. They were working on different propulsion. Let's take a look at this one. This looks pretty wild. Single stage reusable vehicles. Oh, okay. So this is kind of, at least on first glance here from March 2010. Is this kind of like what, you know, Elon Musk has come up with with the reusable Falcon rockets and the SpaceX launches? It seems like that type of thing. They say that, let's say that, let's see. see here. This dirt examines possible fuel

for advanced aerospace propulsion. Arguing that antimatter. Oh, okay, this is different. Arguing that antimatter offers extraordinary energy density and could in principle support applications ranging from long endurance

aircraft and missiles to single stage launch vehicles on board power systems and crude Mars missions. Wow. Okay. So this goes back to March 2010 when they're talking about basically anti-matter fuel that would power long-duration missions in space is really what they're getting at here for the most part. I know they mentioned a couple of other things, but that jumps out to me for sure. They said at the same time, it makes

clear that the concept depends on resolving major unresolved problems in producing positrons in sufficient quantities and storing them safely for long periods. Okay, I could see how that could be a problem. And much of the documents discussion of flight systems and Mars missions remains conceptual rather than closely tied to demonstrated engineering practice. The overall conclusion they came out with according to this report here, which is D123, if you want to look it up, they say their conclusion is that positron propulsion is theoretically attractive, yeah, I would say, but remains highly speculative as a practical technology because its core production and storage required. remain unresolved.

Again, from March 2010, so what else have they come up with? Remains to be the question ever since that came out. Now, there's a bunch of these here, and I would be here all day reading these views, but there's one more. They have stuff about superconductors. They have technological approaches to controlling external devices,

whatever that means, advanced space propulsion based on vacuum. Hello? Space time metric engineering. the vacuum of space. All right, hold on, I got to click on this. Let's see what this says. There's a pretty wild document with a diagram attached.

Show some type of curvature of space, it looks like. All right. We've got to read through this one. It says this dirt examines the idea of vacuum or space-time metric engineering. The possibility that an unspecified future technology might alter the structure of space time in ways useful for propulsion, power. generation or extremely rapid long distance travel using, wow, listen to that. Extremely rapid long distance travel.

This is stuff that they're theorizing in their studies. This goes back to March 2010. Essentially, you're talking about wormhole travel. I mean, that's really what this is, extremely rapid, long distance travel, you know, the structure of space time. This is wormholes, in my opinion. That's what it reads to me anyway. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, but it says using general relativity as a model independent framework, it explores the physical effects that would theoretically follow if such metric changes could be artificially induced, including altered time rates, changes in effective mass, wow, modified light propagation, gravity-like effects, and warp drive propulsion.

Yeah, there it is. This is incredible. This document does not propose any mechanism for generating these effects and treats these physical consequences as an assumed result of space time manipulation, rather than as the outcome of a practical engineering pathway. This is incredible. You know, to read that they're actually talking about this, all the stuff that we theorize that, you know, they're doing behind the scenes. And here you go. 16 years ago in this document, it also emphasizes that the energy requirements predicted by current theory to create such effects are far beyond. existing technological capability.

So again, that doesn't stop them from theorizing, from working on it, and you better believe that they continue to work on it. So I ask the question again, how far have they come in the past 16 years? You know, people say you're crazy if you talk about space-time manipulation and the vacuum of space and teleportation and traveling at near light speed, all these wormhole technology, they're working on it. We've always said they're working on it, and it's right there from these document-release leases for these dirds from OSAP, it's all right there.

Incredible. So this is the stuff that maybe some people would overlook, and that's what I like to do is try to find some of the things that you might overlook because you're looking for the really sexy thing. But this is super sexy to me. This is showing the conversations that they really do want to figure these things out, which tells me they haven't stopped trying to figure these things out. That's really the main takeaway.

How about this? Space communication implications. of quantum entanglement. Okay, that's interesting. But there is one, anti-gravity for aerospace applications. No, that's not it. There's one specific one that I'm trying to find

anomalous acute and sub-acute field effects on human biological tissues. Oh my gosh. Again, there's too much to go through and it starts to hurt your head. But one of the ones, and they have one in here for, how could they use nuclear propulsion

for manned, deep-spaced missions. But they do go into, to teleportation, like specifically. And there is, that's what I was trying to come across, but I'm not sure I'm going to be able to find it as they talk to you. There is actual stuff here. They talk about hypersonic vehicles. Yeah, just incredible.

There's actual pictures in their diagrams where they show theoretical concepts of what it would look like with teleportation or even time travel because in the diagram, they use this opening of a wormhole. On one side is a person. On the other side is a Tyrannosaurus Rex. I kid you not. This is the stuff that they were putting in their diagrams.

It's fantastic. You've got to look through this stuff. Absolutely go through the OSAP documents here. All these dourns. Traversible wormholes. Stargates and negative energy. Hold on. Warp drive, dark energy in the manipulation of extra dimensions.

Ladies and gentlemen, this stuff is wild. They really do theorize about all this. Concepts for extracting energy from the quantum vacuum, April 2010. Okay, this is the last one I'll go into before I wrap up about where did that $22 million go. That's what we'll finish with. But I have to read this one at least. Traversible wormholes, Stargates, negative energy, April 2010. The diagram I can't even understand what I'm looking at here.

Let's go down here and read what this one examines on this Department of War documents. D139 is the document. This dirt examines traversable wormholes in stargates as hypothetical space-time structures within general relativity that theoretically offer a means of faster than light, travel, or communication. The report focuses extensively on the requirement for exotic negative energy matter to stabilize and keep such geometries open for the passage of massage. macro scale objects. This is teleportation.

This is wormhole technology. My goodness. It says it reviews standard wormhole models describes, oh, I'm sorry, standard wormhole models. Okay, excuse me. It describes a flat-throated stargate variant and argues that violations of general relativity's standard energy conditions do not physically rule such structures out. Wow.

Okay, so they're saying it's possible is what that means. That's incredible. They cite microscopic transient negative energy effects observed in the casimir type laboratory phenomena. I'm sorry, but this is like I'm talking to Ashton Forbes. I'm sorry. Think about what you wanted about the guy. He was on the show a lot in the past. This is the stuff that he's been talking about with theoretical physics for like the past four years.

This is what he must be having a field day with this. I cannot but to think about Ashton Forbes when I read this. I'm sorry. It goes on and say, however, The document acknowledges that the transition from microscopic quantum fluctuations to macroscopic engineering is an unresolved barrier, while small-scale negative energy effects are observable. Okay, they did say that, while small-scale negative energy effects are observable, meaning they did teleport something. They said there is no known mechanism to generate, concentrate, or stabilize the amount of exotic matter proposed to be required to sustain and. a traversable, macroscopic wormhole.

Ultimately, while the paper frames wormhole concepts within accepted relativistic physics, they're saying it's possible. Wormhole travel is possible. It does say, though, that it confirms that the gap between theoretical models and any realizable technology remains enormous. So the same type of challenges as we've read

with all of the other documents there from OSAP, those are awesome to read through. I highly suggest going through those dirds there. There's 38 of them. Just thinking about all these, you know, it's like science fiction like technology there that we discussed in that section of this episode. That they're really trying to get that done. And I just, I know I keep saying that. It's not like a broken record, but you can't help out to wonder how far have they gotten since then, right?

They keep talking about the technology gaps. This stuff is written in 2009 and 2010. You're talking 17, 16 years. Have they made any breakthroughs that we're not aware of? Or maybe we are aware of it. And those are some of the things that we argue about. Man, oh man. Okay.

Well, so that's a very, in my opinion, a very worthwhile part of this newest tranche is to look at some of that stuff in the theoretical physics that they're openly putting out there that have been discussed in the past 15 to 20 years. But we will finish with this. This was a contract that was dropped as part of this trance to run. Robert Bigelow and Bigelow Airspace. Now, we all know that name. Of course, as somebody who is highly involved, billionaire businessman, highly involved with the UAP phenomenon.

You know, there's a lot of speculation about how much does he know and does he have craft that he's worked on or at least that his company has worked on to reverse engineer for R&D for the government. You know, we have the report confirmed anyway from George Knapp saying that Robert Bigelow has spoken to the president about this, urging him to disclose to the public that, yes, there is other life and yes, we have recovered craft and kind of just leave it at that.

You know, those conversations have taken place and that Robert Bigelow has told him that, you know, he knows that these things are true. So he's a major, major player when it comes to what is being kept behind the scenes. And that's why this document here was. so significant, in my opinion. And I know a lot of people gravitated toward this one in the trance. It's dated September 22nd, 2008. So actually, what, almost 16 years? No, I'm sorry, 18 years. Geez, 18 years to the date almost as we record this here on this trance drop on September 18th. So it says it's a contract awarded to Bigelow Aerospace in the amount of 21 million. Boy,

that would be nice, wouldn't it? Imagine seeing that come up in your bank account? $21,948,810. So rounded up to a $22 million contract awarded to Bigelow Aerospace. And the late Senator Harry Reid was involved with this in getting this money over to Bigelow Aerospace to basically investigate UFOs. That's the wording on it is to investigate UFOs. So obviously there is a massive scope. there of what investigate UFOs means. Does that mean R&D?

Does that mean reverse engineering recovered craft in their possession? And they sent this over to Bigelow Aerospace in 2008? We don't know. You know why we don't know? Because the results are nowhere to be found. This was actually something

they broke on Fox News this morning and again has been running gangbusters here today. The acknowledgement, not speculation, not theory, not second hand report the acknowledgement that the $22 million that was used here for this contract with Bigelow Airspace to investigate, in air quotes, UFOs, that the results of those investigations are nowhere to be found, that they have looked for them.

And the White House, according to Peter Deucy, who did the reporting on this on Fox News today, the White House can't comment on the whereabouts of the results of those investigations. So where did all this go? Either no one knows or no one's willing to say. And that, my friends, is what you call a smoking gun. That's a big one. And that's why I wanted to end with that one here today because I believe that that is significant. You might look at it and say, meh, but I'm telling you with something like that, when you have a paper trail and when you have a money trail and then the trail goes cold, something happened, something took

place. This isn't theory. Something took place. Something exchanged hands and work was done. And now the results of those work, of that work is kept under wraps to the point where the White House is telling Peter Ducey, they don't know where to find it. Now, is that cover? We don't know. But that's what they're telling him. It's like, so we're just supposed to accept that $22 million worth of investigative work in UFOs disappeared? Did it not yield any results in they're too embarrassed to say that nothing happened? Or is this one of the many things that continues to be kept under wraps? Now, over the past 18 years since this contract was awarded on September 22nd, 2008.

Smoking gun. That's what that is. And that was a very big acknowledgement here today during this drop. So like I said at the beginning, even though it is true that they don't put out the quote-unquote good stuff, there's still plenty of low-hanging fruit that, of course, as I pointed out here today, that is very much worth chewing on, whether it's a couple of videos that are very intriguing, or these Ossap dourds, or the documents about money trails

or 1952 recordings of Air Force investigators talking about, you know, these lights in the sky and these spheres, these saucer-shaped craft that are maneuvering in ways they can understand and that are silent, those are things worth chewing on. Morsels, yes. but still worth consuming. And that's why I wanted to do this here today to talk about this newest drop. So hopefully this was informative for you.

Hopefully it's a nice summary of some of the things that are out there. Feel free to take a look yourself as well, of course, at the ward.gov slash UFO site for all of the information that's on there. But with that said, again, I hope this helped and I hope that you continue to come back here on UAP because this wasn't planned here today. I just came on to do this for you today since this drop happened. I do have plans coming up though for next week. I do want to get in back into my cold case files, volume two.

I want to dig back into the Vegas case. And I'm hoping to get that going for next week and kind of dig some of that back up. And, you know, relive, revisit the details of that case to see if we can continue or try to make sense of that now a few years removed from the Las Vegas case, which is something that, again, still gets brought up to me by a lot of people. and like, hey, you know, whatever happened to that one? Well, everybody stopped talking about it. Why? We never got any answers on it. So we'll dig that one back up in the cold case files.

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