UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 235 Uncovering the Sphere Network part 1

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

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Welcome back into you AP. Stephen Dean, we're back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien Podcast. This time for episode number 235, and it is a roller coaster ride. I'm going to tell you that right now as we dig into a new two-part series here, actually, with Patrick Jackson.

Patrick, if you're not familiar with his work, well, you're about to become very familiar with it because he's the researcher, the author, who is behind the Sphere Network, the theories and the presentation that he's put out regarding the sphere network. You're going to hear all about that here. What is it about? How did he come across this?

Why did he even start investigating orbs, spheres, as we call them normally, orbs? They're interchangeable here. Same thing. Why did he even get into this? And how did he start looking into it? Well, I will tell you that because as far as why this is a roller coaster ride, you may be a little thrown off to start.

I just want to give you a heads up here. Stick with this, okay? Because, and maybe I'm looking too much into it, but I'm just letting you know at first, you may feel like, where is this going? I'm just being totally upfront with you here, okay? You may feel like, why are they talking about ghosts and poltergeist and what does this have to do with aliens and UFOs?

And what are the answers here? Where is this going? And you'll even hear me ask the questions. Okay, so what about this? what about that? And you'll hear Patrick answer, hold on, I'm getting to it. So I'm going to tell you that to start off here because you need to stick with this. You need to stick with this. I'm telling you that right now. Do not like tune out halfway through it and think, okay, this is taking to get to an answer. I'm telling you right now, stay with this because it is going to be worth it in the end. And you might think as you go through it, like I said, what does this have to do with anything? And I'm telling you right now it has. everything to do with where this is going. So pay attention to how this starts, beginning, middle, and then you'll hear toward the end how this all comes together, especially in part one. Part one is a roller coaster. I'm just telling you right now. So I'm just going to set it up that way

and then come back after part one here and have some reaction and help us to lead into part two. So uncovering this sphere network with the man behind the literally wrote the book on it, Patrick Jackson right now on UAP. Sit back and get ready for this one. Well, happy to bring him on officially to UAP for the first time. Patrick Jackson, so happy to have you here on UAP. Thanks for making the time to come on here. I know it's a time difference between us and where you are in the UK. So I appreciate you coming on here.

Yeah, no problem. It's exciting times now. things are getting a bit more hot now, so it's getting good. Oh, absolutely. And yeah, I think it actually worked out great because I say for the first time officially, because you and I have spoken before, we've spoken online, we've spoken, we had a space on X, something like eight months ago, maybe even close to a year. But it's good timing now to officially have you on UAP because of really what you just said.

There's so much that it's developed just this year alone in 2020. and I think it's great because what I would like to do is kind of try to tie in what we've been hearing now this year and tie it into what you have been proposing with the sphere network. So I want to start there, Patrick. What is it for anybody who hasn't heard you talk about, I guess the basics of your proposal on the sphere network. How would you explain it to somebody who's never heard you say it before? Well, in a nutshell, the earth is surrounded by silver sphere of drones, hundreds of thousands of them, if not millions. This has been spoken by Beatrice as well through her work. You can see them with the naked eye as well, if you know what you're looking for.

My work is directly connected to Beatrice's as well. The only difference is I did it from the ground up while she's doing it in space, but the same formations, the same things are being seen. And the data on that is still coming out, but when it will come out, it will prove that point. Yeah, and I think I guess this kind of relates to what we call the orbs, right? People, we see orbs, whether glowing or non-glowing. And we theorize on what those could be. Are they craft? Are they drones, like you said?

Are they reconnaissance? Are they, you know, so-called manned or unmanned? Are they just some type of, you know, autonomous vehicle? So your assertion is that these orbs that we see, or spheres, as we call them as well, are really more autonomous, that these are empty and these are intelligently controlled by non-humans? Is that your theory on these? So it's a three-layer network. Okay.

So you have to type three, is a type two, is not. to type once. Effectively, each one has a separate role, a separate mission, and you all work independently and then connect when you need to. So I can work through the presentation. I can start showing you. That's the easiest way to do it because there's a lot to get through it. Sure.

But we can do that. So let me just set the screen up. Yeah, let's start from the beginning. It's always the best place to start, as I like to say. And I also want to ask you, too, as you set that up and bring it on here. I'm wondering, because I think some people would wonder as well, as they hear you start to go through the three classes here and how you came to these conclusions, I'll first ask to frame it that way, how and why are you so sure that what you're about to present here, why are you so sure

that this is the way it works? What makes you think that this is, with certainty, how things work? Well, my background is in IT and database architecture. So my day job is a lot of what we call reverse engineering. I've been doing it for years for private industry and private banks and so forth. And I just applied the same thought process to what was originally the paranormal, the poltergeists, because I kind of really wanted to figure out the root cause of polyguised activity after seeing some of myself. And that's how I started, and I started really, I started in 2013, 2012,

when I really decided to make a go of it. And then this book here is the result of all that work and what I found and how I structured it and how it's all logically connected as well. If you give this book to anyone in the, in AI industry or computer, industry or any technical industry at all, they will pretty much agree with it. So that's where we are. And yeah, so I can, I'll work through it with you and see what you think. Yeah, let's take a look. Of course, it's called the sphere network. And this is the work that you put together here. And so it is interesting, though, I mean, because when you put it together from a technical aspect,

right, this isn't just, you know, you making some assumptions, you're applying your real everyday expertise into something that we're trying to get answers to. Yeah, it's effectively corporate level reverse engineering. Okay, okay. Yeah, let's take a look here. Let's see what you've come across, I guess, in all three classes, type ones, two and threes of these spheres. Okay, so my background, predominantly I'm an IT database developer.

I work in central London, Cambridge, mostly in media or county firms. My core responsibilities are spotting database. issues before they happen, reverse engineering, complex problems before and after they occur. And so really what I do is kind of like, it's more about pattern recognition and like logical analysis and how things connect together. So in the real world, no one knows all of the languages and the architecture of systems because they're just too complicated these days. But what you can do is look at the patterns and behaviors and the traits, and then you can figure out how things are working just by looking at them without even having to dig into the code. And if you're good

at that, then you can take on very big projects, and then you can start breaking it down exactly what is going, what's going wrong, where. And then once you're at that point of where it's actually going wrong, that's when you dive in the code and you can see where it's mismatching. Yeah, it makes sense. It's effectively, as I said, it's this advanced level pattern recognition and logical mapping and analysis. Okay.

So if you're on my ex or follow my ex, for the past few years, I've been presenting clear examples of UAP spheres in action. For about a year before the UAP hearings in America, the very first ones, I shared my working model with Senator St. Gilbert. This unexpectedly, became the major topic of the hearings.

Gassiers themselves, on no minor detail, they account for 52% of all UAP sightings. The government itself is in a bit of a difficult position because they generally don't like what they can't control. So a likely strategy is to let civilians piece it together independently. So as like Professor Nolan mentioned a few years ago, he mentioned my work and he mentioned that I can identify these fears going back in photographs decades,

which makes me a very powerful tool for verifying both historic and modern images because the hoaxes wouldn't understand the formations or even see that they're there. So you can look at pictures from, say, 1920 or 1930, and you can see the spheres in the background. And that's how you know that the image is real or not. Wow.

And I do want to ask on that, too, Patrick. I'm glad you brought up the percentage. there in your overview because you have there the stat that 52% of sightings are these orbs, are these spheres. And I wonder what type of pattern recognition you found in that when it started to increase because I personally didn't notice it until probably the past 10 to 15 years. The orbs became the predominant shape that people were seeing. Before it always seemed like it was the flying saucer, right?

Going back to science fiction of the 1950s and 60s. And then you had the cigar shape and, of course, the Tick-Tac from the Nimitz in 2004. But it feels like within the past 10 years or so, predominantly such as the Mosul orb. These sightings predominantly point towards orbs. What have you noticed on that, why that might be? It started jumping up after the MH380. 370. Okay.

So that goes back in 2012 as well. It's 2014. Yeah. It's side rumping up after that. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Well, that said, the video that is going around is, I would say that that's, well, from

what I've seen of it, it looks to be a CGI or visual effects. But in a way, that's kind of like how the intelligence community works. What they do is if they can't release information on a subject, they'll come up with like a recreation or they'll come up with something what will suggest what happened and then release it to the public. And then what will happen is a big portion of the public will believe that video is real, while the other proportion of people who are a bit more analytical will be able to tell that's fake. So it just creates people just kind of, you know, like an echo chamber and some people arguing about it for years.

A suggestion of what actually happened. Okay. Yeah, it is interesting. And obviously I'm not here to debate the validity. Obviously, that's a hot topic as far as the validity of those videos, of course. But what's interesting to me is the how you are able in your research to trace it back, the uptick and orbs tracing back to the MH370 disappearance. So I guess it's something to keep in mind. I'll let you continue, though.

My journey of how I even got involved in this, because it's been a bit of an interesting one, is I grew up in an area that was, had lots of ghost activity and UAP activity, and I just kind of grew up with it. And it just became kind of normal, really, to see weird things. And when I hit my 20s, I kind of just got more interested into it. And I was like, you know, so I'd watch all the mainstream TV shows.

A lot of the, you know, the US and UK paranormal TV shows and documentaries. And what happened was none of it really jelled with me. None of it made any sense to me because it's like, you know, the mainstream researchers, what they were saying just didn't add up. It was just too much woo and not enough logic. Mathematically, it made zero sense as well. Like, why would someone die and then come back 300 years later to throw stuff around the house? It doesn't make any sense.

And then when you look at the mathematics, it's like, well, in just in 2023, according to stats from England and Wales, 1,800 people die every day. So paranormal activity doesn't increase year on year. It just generally stays the same over particular locations. So eventually I just got tired of it and like the vague explanations and thinking. So I thought, well, if I can reverse engineer these issues of work and why don't I just try, you know, to push myself and see if I can use the same mindset on

the paranormal or poli geists to people be exact. And it all got so much in my head. Like I just ended up having so much information in my head that I had to write a book to just like download it off my out of my brain. I get it. It's just going a bit too much. Yeah, I understand. So it started with the supernatural then.

It really started with what people would call ghost stories if you put it in a crude or more crude term. And that's where your interest began. So you went into really more of like poltergeist activity, hauntings and everything. And that kind of led you into your work on UAP activity. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And this is where it all began really.

This is 30 years drive. And this is voted the most haunted house in the UK. It's the most violent poltergeist in the UK. In fact, I've been to other places as well, but this is by far the best one. And the reason is is because the house is small. It's only a small little house, two bedrooms, two or three bedrooms upstairs and just a living room and stairs. And so it's very easy to monitor and to see what's going on where. Unlike say like a castle where you have lots of weird stuff going on and all over the place.

So I figured well for if you're going to try and figure this out, you need somewhere small where you can start seeing the patterns and start seeing, you know, reoccurring things. So back in 2015, I spent four. nights that he's drive known as a black monk house. I went in like not as a believer or anything. I kind of had some theories but I wasn't completely sure. But I just wanted to see if I could spot anything and what other people have missed. And within 15 minutes have been in the place, this particular event happened. And so that there is the Colchid door banging. And that is an event that stood out because it's happened the night before we were there. And it also happened when other teams have been there as well.

So this is like in a technical mind, this event is what we call a constant, as in it keeps on reoccurring. Right. That's a pattern there. And the way you think about it is like a key action for a key reason. So you have an action and there's a reason behind it. The question is what is the reason?

So what will happen is like it will happen maybe on a Monday and then nothing for a week and then it will just randomly happen again. And these behavior patterns are not actually. human behavior patterns. Instead, what they look like to be is mechanical or computer-like a process-driven action, which means that you have an action which will run when it needs to run rather than someone thinking, oh, I'm going to go bang the door. You know what I mean? So throughout our history, yeah, we kind of misinterpreted this as dead people. But what you're seeing, because you're seeing the same reoccurring patterns, it's more of a process that's

reoccurring. Interesting. So like you said, analyzing, right, you go into it, not as a ghost hunter by any means, but as someone who just wants to analyze the poltergeist activity and figure out, is there a pattern to it? Like you said in the beginning, you know, some type of pattern driven research. So, you know, finding out, you know, where the pattern kind of lies. How did this, so I'm curious then, Patrick, how did this part of your research end up connecting to what you ended up working on in the sphere network in the uip phenomenon oh we're going to get to that but it takes a few steps okay okay yeah it's not it's not anything to just jump to i'm thinking ahead okay so um this is a stair staircase uh and if you walk up the stairs uh on the third step you if you

um you will pick up um high moving EMF levels so if you have like a little EMF reader and you wave it above your head, right up here, you'll pick up very high EMF levels, even when the power is switched off in the building. And these EMF levels are very, very high. And also, they will not be there all the time. They will disappear for hours and then reappear. And again, this is when all the power is off in the house. So there shouldn't be any sort of high level EMFs there. And what you notice is that this is a repeatable and predictable. And when you walk up the stairs, is from here. You'll notice that you feel dizzy. Every time you walk under there, you feel dizzy. And everyone says it. It's like, oh, just you lose, just for a moment, you feel dizzy and

you take sure a second to get back to normal again. But these, these, these, um, yeah, MFF missions are not there 24-7. They will appear and disappear. Um, like they switch on and they switch off. What they see is a vertical black mass that moves digitally. So what it means is it would be like a black mass like this and it will move very fast left and right or up the stairs in a linear speed so it's just like a very set rate instant speed and stop and it moves very digitally without weight or resistance yeah that that is definitely a reoccurring thing when it comes to you know hauntings is that you know the black mass uh some type of shadow so i'm very curious to see what you found out here because i've always been kind of curious too on how poltergeist activity might connect

in some way to the UAP phenomenon because I've never experienced UAP phenomenon but I have experienced supernatural before so I'm curious to see how this all connects here so I'll let you continue So this is another picture of the black mass

And right here What we've done is we've filtered it So you can get more detail out of the noise And boosted it a little bit And right here you can see what looks to be an artificial shape Looks to be a small ball or something saw and that's what we noticed three with three quarters of the way up you see the small ball

well everything else is just noise now as the first thing i kind of picked up on and then i got this picture here and when i saw this this was like like the eureka moment um what this is is a small drone effectively a small drone about the size of a baseball um and it's uh this this explain everything because it's like all these patterns and loop behaviors and high EMF spikes plus neurological effects that people are getting didn't line up with the idea of ghosts or spirits. It lines up the idea of drones producing emissions and people being affected by those emissions. So this here is what I call the site three. And as you can see here, you can see it right here and you can see it flying towards the door.

And you can see this like trail behind it. Yeah. Its trail has been picked up also on the Skinwalker cameras as well because they're seeing exactly the same thing. They're seeing these small like silver balls at night time. You see them as like glowing spheres about a size of a baseball. And when they fly along, they leave a trail across the sky across the and it's all picked up in infrared. And this here is also infrared. And this one here is the same image. So again, you can see the sphere hovering just off the ground. It's just taking a stop, and then here it takes the left, then it takes the right again, and this one's a little bit higher, as you can see, just here. Yeah, it's interesting because in some of the, you know, I guess research that I've done into the supernatural world

when it comes to spirits, ghosts, as we call them, it usually is a ball of light, right? Anybody captures a picture, it's usually a ball of light, usually pretty small, like you're saying, some smaller than some like, you get a baseball, somewhere like a golf ball size, and they move in kind of like a wispy type of fashion. And so your assertion, you're capturing that and it's repeatable. You mentioned Skinwalker Ranch as well where you've seen that repeatable capture too. So it sounds like then this led you to a conclusion on what we're looking at. So how you analyze this is like, okay, so why are these small seers in the buildings?

and why are they using physical actions, why are they performing physical actions and why are people getting physically affected? So advanced drones need three main functions to operate. One, it needs to send and receive signals. Two, it needs a network, and three, it needs artificial intelligence. And AI is actually the key to these repetitive factions that we're seeing. So, as I say, we know that the repetitive factions are occurring

as a door of banging from the video has been observed by many groups, over the years and that pattern itself is consistent. And when you study other poltergeist cases, you notice that they have all the same behavior patterns, banging doors, throwing objects, strange electrical effects, catching things on fire, meaning it's the same AI pulling from the same library of pre-coded actions. So the first thing you look for is signals,

what we call signal intelligence. So what we do is did I find a transmission? And the answer is yes. So what I found was an 18-bit code with a two bits of that used for synchronization. So then these codes have been burst relayed from these objects at these points. And when that burstry laying, they produce the emissions. And when these emissions are occurring, they will perform actions to move people away. So this is why Poltergeist activity is so intermittent,

because these things will not do any transmissions for, say, three or four days. and then they'll come online and start producing transmissions, and then there'll be a gamma radiation byproducts and a microwave product, and then it performs actions to move people away. And this is all in line with the inverse quorum or radiation, which means that the further away you are from the source, and safer it becomes.

So you have a drone, a small drone, and it's producing these signals going back and forth. And you say, okay, so it must be then connecting to other drones, It must be connecting to a network, a localized network. So what you do is you say, okay, so if this drone is operating inside the UK's most haunted house, you know, most haunted poltergeist house recorded, then all these other buildings that have the same activity occurring must also have these drones in them. So what I'd done was I mapped them all in the UK, and then I filtered it by the level of activity

that they're receiving. And what you're looking at here is one of the most active buildings in the UK. And if you look at it, it all operates in lines and, well, effectively a line going across the country. This pattern indicates a low-to-ground network is in operation, which is technically similar to our own network topology of a microwave-based point-to-point communication relay system. Microw is because microwaves travel in straight lines and they're secure as well.

Yeah, what's kind of catching me about this is, you know, like you said, you're finding this pattern of the highest poltergeist activity across the UK. And it essentially runs across almost a straight line, a little bit wavy, but almost a straight line for one side of the country to the next. And that kind of reminds me of, in a way, lay lines around the earth or even how you can draw a street line at different, you know, monuments around the earth like Stonehenge to the pyramids and things like that. and as you go around the earth. So, and that, you know, we can draw a conclusion, which sounds like what you're getting to, Patrick, which is a network, like a network of communication. So the poltergeist is some type of network of communication. Well, the drones are, they're effectively transponders, transceivers.

So they are, they will fly around the house for, you know, 24 hours a day. And then when they need to, they'll come online, they'll start birstrelaying. They'll link up across the country, send signals across, and then go back into a dormant state again. And when these are these transmissions are occurring, this is when people feel sick, they get headaches, they pass out. And also there is physical actions being produced around the house as well. And these are effectively scarecrow light actions to move people away. So the great thing about these actions is it doesn't matter what language you speak, these actions will always cause the same effect, which is people will run.

So it's kind of like the scarecrow effect, as I call it. So this is the evidence of artificial intelligence, and I explain how this works. So from a layout in the house, I found that the coal shed, where the video you just saw, is actually the most electronically shielded and distance part of the building, which is an alignment with the inverse square and oil radiation, whereby the more distant you are from the source, the safer it becomes. This explains why the door is banging to attract people to that area, moving people away from the sphere's broadcast location.

So what it does is that these things are producing gamma radiation pulses and is telling people to move to the most secure part of the building so you won't be affected. So it's effectively a safety protocol. It's wild. So why, I guess the question, have Patrick and I wonder if this is something that you've come across. Why certain houses, right?

Is it just because they want a certain location and then they, these, these orbs, I guess AI, you know, AI controlled orbs that we mistake for poltergeist in your, you know, according to your research there? Is that why they, you know, essentially haunt one location because it's just the right spot for them? Yeah, it's a network. And networks go where they have to go. And I think most of the time they root through unpopulated areas.

So like they were used woodlands or tunnels or even caves, even holes in the ground. Anything that was sure the electronic emissions when they relay, they were used. But when they have to route through populated areas, they were used buildings. And this is why polygoyce activity will suddenly start occurring in brand new houses with no history. You see, so what the traditional ghost hunters do, researchers, though, they'll go back in history and they'll say oh someone died here three 400 years ago you know and they relate the stories to that but the truth is here in the united kingdom there's probably dead bodies everywhere because this is a lot of bloody history you know so it's probably like dead bodies under my

house from you know five six hundred years ago so but nothing's happened um so yeah this is what it's all about and this is why people feel sick they get you know they feel funny uh is effectively um that have been affected by gamma radiation pulses. Fascinating. So what it is, is that depending on the type of the building, you'll operate in one or two locations, either the attic or the basement of the building. So like in modern houses, brick houses, they will use the attic. And in the US, for example, you have like wooden houses, like single floor. And in those examples, they will operate in the basement because it's the most shielded part of the building. But also the wooden houses are actually the most active because if you

could imagine if you got one of these in the basement and it's doing relaying, it's relaying like this up through the floorboards, which means that it has to produce a lot of actions to move people away. So there's lots of like in the US, there's like stories like demon houses. Right. And when you look at them, there are, they are always a wooden house, which is a single floor with a basement. It's always the same thing. Interesting. So it really just depends on the material and what type of frequency is able to get through what type of material? Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. So I mean, this is something that I think people would find, you know, kind of like a paradigm shift in the way that a lot of people think, right? That we separate ghosts and spirits from aliens and UAP activity. But your assertion is that part of the sphere network in the three classes, this is type three sphere. in your research is that the poltergeist activity or the spirits are really essentially just communication devices for extraterrestrials?

We're working through it. Okay. I'm always getting ahead of myself. The mind is working here. But this is how it works. You have the type three spheres, which are down here. These operate loads of ground inside buildings. They create the underpinning.

data link for the type ones, which are the big ones up here. They use the buildings to shield the electronic signatures and emissions. During high-energy uplinks equals actions to move people away, what we see is polyglice activity. This network spans across countries and lines and clusters, which is very similar to our own long-haul microwave-based communication networks. The type 2 spheres, which are these ones, these are the ones most commonly seen in the US. So these are about the size of a bowling,

ball, maybe a bit bigger. They'll always be low to the ground above tree tops or houses. And what they do is they will connect to the type 3s. Effectively, it's the same technology, but upscaled. So what they do, you see you have a low-energy signal. These produce a low-engy signal, and they connect up to the relay. And the relay will take that signal and then amplify it to a high-energy signal for long-distance transmission. And these type 3s are, our current models. out is that the type 3s are responsible for spontaneous shipping combustion. Because if you don't have the relay or the relay is too far away, these type 3 will have to signal up to the type 1s. Now, if these things are up real high, maybe at an orbit level, it'll have to produce a high

energy signal. And these things are producing microwaves and gamma radiation pulses. And microwaves themselves are directable. So if you happen to be inside of a house and one of the, one of the these things relay and you happen to be in the way of it, you will just fry in a heartbeat. Wow. So that's the root cause of spontaneous combustion. That is why that's why they haven't seen any for so long. Like there hasn't been a case of spontaneous human combustion for for absolute decades, I think. There's only been like 200 cases of it in our history.

And I think it's because they then started using the relays or more of them. So now that when they link, they link up to the type 2, which will then produce a high-energy signal. These are linked up to the type 1-V formations. These are the big triangles that everyone seeing in the sky. And effectively, I'll get through. I'll explain this a bit more, but these are about the size of a beach ball, and they operate these big equilateral triangles in the sky. Right.

Yeah, exactly. That's what most people see. Right. We talk about the triangle formation. You mentioned the MH370 video, of course. We see it there. And so we have this triangle formation of the classic orb-shaped, you know, UAP, as we've come to know them. So that's the type 1.

That's what you have found in your research. The type 1 sphere is the one that we always see. Yeah. And so that's kind of like the master relay, I guess, if you will, if we look at it as the sphere network, that's the one receiving all of the signals and all the information. That's the endpoint. So that would be that's kind of like where they're all headed to. Okay.

So the type two is what they do, because they're using a microwave link, they have to map over, map over mountains or hills. So what you'll see is you see one at the bottom of the hill and another one at the top, and another one in the distance. This is called daisy chaining and this is like a commonly seen in computer networking. So it refers to a topology or configuration where multiple devices are connected in a linear or sequential chain. Each device on the chain is connected to the next one,

creating a chain-like network structure. So for long-distance relaying, because it's dependent on where the type 3 is, it has to create a connection going across the sky up to where it needs to be. And that's how it does it. Right. Okay. So it makes sense.

I mean, because it's kind of reminiscent of like a starlink chain on how those work, where they're in that line. I've seen one flyover before. and you're kind of in that straight line. So here is the type 2. This one here is over Poland in 2023. These are seen all the time. Again, this is just above the tree level.

And it sits in the sky for prolonged periods. And that's because it has a microwave link down to the ground, down to the type 3. And then it then chains it across the sky where it needs to be. And the next one will be, the next one in the chain might be five, six miles across. So you might not see them. But there's another one, say five or six miles in the distance.

and they just relay along. Right. And that of course is the metal sphere that a lot of people report seeing. Yeah. And this one here, this is the type one. This is the big V formation, equal actual triangle in the sky. These are approximately two or three meters diameter. The three spheres that create a V formation in the sky.

And they operate between two distinct modes. You have the vertical configuration, which is like this. Then you have a horizontal configuration, which like this, which is parallels to the ground. The whole thing operates as a single unit and it will rotate and pivot as a flat plane. This is a coordinated behavior while the spheres maintain a fixed relative position in the sky. So it kind of moves as one unit in the sky. And this right here is a group of planes.

One of the triggers for the sphere network is anomalous air aircraft, air, air, So air shows are a primary trigger for it. When they see low flying, when they detect low flying aircraft, they will check it out, they will ping it. And if you look at a lot of air show videos, you will see the sphere network pinging these aircraft. Yeah, it happens a lot. There's a lot of different videos and pictures from air shows.

I'm going to ask a question that you probably that you probably are going to answer soon, but I'm just going to ask it while it's on my mind. I guess what I'm wondering at this point, Patrick, is I suppose why? And maybe, you know, as far as what you found out in your research, why does this sphere network exist? And what's the point of it?

Like, you know, who's running it? What's the purpose of it? As it seems like it's been running for at least the past century, if not longer. Yeah, we'll get to that. That's what I thought. Okay. Wanted to throw it out there now while it was on my mind.

Yeah. So what you have, you have a group of behaviors and observations that you can, that are repeating. And this is exactly what, you know, you do in pattern recognition and in IT and stuff. Right. So what's actually happening is that what is occurring as a mathematical process that these spheres are using? because regardless of the technology, they're still constrained by mathematics. And that's how you reverse engineer what is occurring. The type 3s, this is a birth relaying data network.

They create a low to ground network, which is a mesh network that can move around to its needs, and they will signal each other. So what it does is that this is always a dead center of the triangle behind it, which means that it's doing a distance calculation to whatever is looking. looking at. And when you combine that data together, you get three-dimensional tracking in space. So what that means is this is a very high resolution targeting and tracking system. Hmm. Wow. So this is this here is what you call corporate level reverse engineering. This is you can put this through any AI you want and you'll come back and say to this

script. It makes sense. I mean, as far as their instruments, their tools, You know, a lot of people have kind of always, I hate to say assumed, but made the guess, made the educated guess that a lot of times there's tracking going on. There's mapping going on of, you know, some type of topography mapping going on with these spheres are flying over. They seem to fly in a grid sometimes or in a pattern. Does that make sense as well, Patrick? Have you noticed that? Oh, yeah, completely. Yeah.

So what is the, I guess, I guess coming back to the original question, the mapping, the tracking, who's doing the tracking and why? I guess what are they so interested in? Well, I don't know who's doing it. Okay. But, I mean, you can tell what it's doing. What it's doing is this is a high resolution tracking and targeting system. So what they're doing is that they are in targeting external craft coming into the atmosphere. into our space.

So somebody's using this. Somebody has set this tracking system up. The sphere network essentially is a tracking system. Am I getting that right? It's a weapon system. Yeah. It's a weapon platform. Say that one more time?

It's a weapon platform. A weapon platform. Okay. And the weapon being... So what happens is when this... When it's doing this tracking here, it can then appear to fire some sort of weapon at the target and then vaporize them.

Oh, okay, okay. So now, okay. Now, this is really interesting because, and I think you're probably thinking the same thing I am, this is something that we can connect to a recent statement made by David Grush. Yeah. David Grush was just on with Joe Rogan. It made massive waves,

not only in UFO circles, but really anybody who just like laid people who saw this in, like, whoa, who is this guy? If someone had never heard of David Gresh outside of the, you know, UFO community, if you will. And he's saying all these things on the Joe Rogan show. They're like, what is going on? And one of the things that he said is that there are battles going on between different alien races, namely the reptilians and the grays. And that we've been involved before, I guess, you know, recently in modern history within the past 70 years or so,

where we've been involved with these battles between reptilians and graze and saucers-shaped craft, in egg-shaped craft, and tick-tack-shaped craft. And we've actually been killed and killed by reptilian aliens in the midst of their battles with the grays. So what was really big for us to hear from that was, is that it was coming from David Grush. We've heard that come from other people, but we hadn't heard from it. We hadn't heard that, a statement like that, which sounds completely outlandish. Most, you know, I mean, let's be honest, it sounds outlandish to someone who's never paid attention to this subject before. But it's coming from someone like David Grush, who for the most part, has been extremely reserved in his approach to this during his whistleblower testimony over the past few years.

So we get that from him. And now we're talking about the sphere network with you where your analysis shows the, these these orbs that we see are in three classes small to medium to large if you will just in a crude explanation and the large ones the type ones are the ones that we see mostly in the sky in the v and the triangle formation and those are the ones that are the end of the relay where this signal is going through and it's firing a weapon at a target so the sphere network is essentially a communications network in order to use a weapon on somebody or something?

It's a hypersonic defense network. Wow. Okay. So. Which is AI-based, AI-based hypersonic defense network. Well, there you go. A weapons network powered by AI, the sphere network being communications targeting for a hypersonic AI-powered weapon

to be used against other entities. And we get into more of that. We've really, we pretty, not pretty much, we do pick up exactly from that point for part two where you'll actually hear it when part two comes out in just a couple of days where I asked Patrick, what was your reaction here when you came across all this? Because, you know, he mentioned having like that eureka moment when he's looking into the poltergeist aspect of this. And it's funny how this started. And you heard me mention that during the conversation there. Like, this was just something that he wanted to use his background, his analytical background on finding patterns, you know, his IT is. mathematical background to look into poltergeist situations. Why do these things work the way they work when it comes to ghosts and, you know, hauntings and things like that, which, by the way, for the record, and this is just me talking

here, this is just completely my own opinion. I don't think, just like when we talk about angels and demons and aliens, maybe we can chalk some of it up to, you know, some type of demonic activity. I'm going to say the same thing here when it comes to poltergeist activity. I personally don't think that all poltergeist activity and all hauntings can be traced back to the sphere network. I personally think that there is something separate going on there. When it comes to hauntings and poltergeist activity, I do think that that is its own entity and that remains its own phenomenon with separate questions and separate dealings and whole other separate set of stories that go back, obviously, generations. So I do think there is a difference there.

That's just my own speaking here. That's just my own thought process. But when it comes to Patrick's, you know, kind of theories and research here, according to what he's saying, there could be a segment, obviously, from his research that he presented. There could be a segment of that that traces back to a case and mistaken identity when it comes to those type three orbs, kind of like the, you know, the glowing baseball size orbs that we have always. spoken about, you know, kind of like those spirit balls of light that we see in pictures and everything like that. Apparently, that could be instead, sometimes, not all the time, again, my opinion, sometimes not all the time, that could be these type 3 orbs, these baseball-sized

orbs that are, you know, ground-level communication devices to be sending back information to the type 2s that we see like those beach ball size to the type 1s, the bigger orbs that we see flying around and then those going into you know the triangle the v formations as he spoke about whether vertical or horizontal as they're seen depending on I suppose how they're being used for a hypersonic weapon this stuff was like whoa where did this come from but like I said this is why it was a roller coaster ride especially in this first part where we started and where we ended up so I'm going to kind of finish it off from there and then I kind of have like a full reaction after part two because there is a lot more than I want to say on this just when it comes

to making sense about some of the physical effects that could be due to gamma radiation from the communication microwaves late and that does go back to what we talk about with physical effects going towards close encounters with you know uAP craft um with UFOs you know people talking about having physical effects after abductions or close encounters with UFOs. And we say, well, that's probably some type of effects due to radiation. And if we're talking about the same thing here with the type three orbs, the small ones, then that would make sense when we talk about how people feel woozy or dizzy or nauseous because of poltergeist activity.

Again, could be both. But if we're talking about gamer radiation the way that we do with UFOs, then it would make sense to connect that same thought process to type three orbs as well. and what they're using, the microwaves that they're using for communication. So interesting to connect all of those there as well. Again, I have a lot of thoughts on this. I took a lot of notes, but I'm going to save it for part two and kind of come back and compile it all together.

So that's going to be it for now. That's part one. Thank you for sticking with that ride there. Again, I hope that made sense and came together in the end like it did for me. And then from there, as you'll hear in part two, we really just, you know, take the ground, like take off running from part two and really dig into what this all means and what having this, you know, sphere network be this weapons system, according to Patrick's research, what that means moving forward and historically as well. So we go into a lot more on that subject and really kind of wrap it all up together in part two. This was an extremely fascinating conversation. and I even said that to Patrick when we were done

because we spoke for about two hours when it was all set and done as of course putting it together in two parts here and I told them when we were done I was like dude that was one of the wildest conversations I've ever had so you'll hear the rest of that in part two as we bring it all together

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