UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 236 Unovering the Sphere Network part 2

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

Coming off of the revelation that the Sphere Network is an AI powered hypersonic weapon used for shooting down alien craft, Stephen Diener continues his discussion with the lead researcher on the case, Patrick Jackson, where we continue to discover new details. Including a video capture of a take down, and how humans might be playing a role in all of this. All of that and much more... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome back into UAP. Stephen Dean are back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast for episode number 236. And this is part two of our conversation with the author and researcher of the Sphere Network, Patrick Jackson. And as you heard in part one, who kind of left off right there in the middle where we got the realization, the revelation maybe, is the better way to put it, that the Sphere Network is a, A weapons system, an advanced weapons system, a hypersonic advanced weapon system using drones and AI technology for communication and coordination is what it comes down to for the sphere network. And that's something that, you know, was sitting with me ever since this interview. I was like, whoa, you know, just the thought of this. This whole thing kind of like plays out like a movie.

I mean, honestly, by the time you're done with it, you'll see what I'm saying. this whole idea, this whole theory, or in, you know, as Patrick puts it, his research, he's, you know, proving his research here, that, you know, arguing his research, that this is the truth. And it would be, the whole thing in my mind, I could like see the movie playing out. I'm like, this would be an incredible story on the big screen. So I don't know if he's ever trying to do that in the future. But I think it would definitely make for quite the story to make a movie out of.

And I think maybe you'll think the same thing by the time we're done. but we do pick up right where we left off about that revelation, right? This is an advanced weapons system. And so we go right into it with my reaction. I'm kind of now processing this. And I, you know, St. Patrick kind of start questioning him. What was your reaction when you kind of, you know, figured all this out? So we get into that and we go into, and I do want to mention this before I start this,

because it's important also for part one, if you heard part one already. and that is that the pictures and some of the examples and even a couple of videos that Patrick was playing during our interview because we're on screen, we're on a video stream recording the interview. So he was playing videos and showing pictures of examples of the Sphere Network. And even as you'll hear a video showing the Sphere Network in action, he shows an explosion. He shows, you'll hear it. well not the explosion itself but you'll hear the description because i give a play by a play of the video of him where he was showing this video of the orb uh the orbs in action through the sphere

network blowing something up in space it's crazy that said even though you can't see the video i did want to mention just like with part one there's a lot of explanation so i don't want it to be lost on you know obviously you're listening on podcast i don't want the video or pictures that he's explaining, because you might hear terms like, as you see here, and obviously you're listening, you're not seeing it, but it is explained and it is described. So I don't want anything,

I don't want anything to get lost in translation because, of course, we were talking on video, but you're hearing it, you know, through audio. So you understand what I'm trying to say. That said, this whole thing will be on YouTube as well. So if you do want to, the entirety of the conversation, there were some technical difficulties during the conversation that you, I guess you would see on YouTube

because I don't really have a great editing system that takes some of the video editing out there. But that said, so just kind of warts and all will be the video portion. But you'll see at least the discussion as the videos and the pictures are being shown. So you could always check this out on YouTube as well if you do want to see the visual aid

that we're talking about during the episode. So I just wanted to point those two things out so there's nothing lost there. but I'll get right back into it. You know, we get into intergalactic battles. We get into what Patrick does know, even more damning evidence that he can't put out yet. And some of the things that he thinks are going to take place within the next year. It's an extremely fascinating and compelling finish to the end of this conversation.

And it's all right now. I'm just going to lay it out there and come back with a lot of thoughts here as we finish off this conversation with Patrick Jackson. about the Sphere Network. So part two right now with myself and Patrick. Enjoy. So what was your reaction then? Because again, it's interesting that we never got to do this until now. And it just so happens to be days after, you know,

David Grush makes those comments on Joe Rogan. What was your reaction when you heard him say that? Was that something for you where you're like, this lines up exactly with what I've been saying? Somebody's using these things to fire a weapon. And maybe it's for these battles that go on between reptilians and grades according to the stories there um well there's no surprise no surprise at all i mean i've been telling everyone about this for years and um in the background i i get contacted by a lot of people and

they say yeah you're right you know um so what what else can you say i put it out there and i explain to people but it's up to the public to catch up it's yeah i mean it's it's pretty incredible patrick because you went from starting from somebody who's experiencing, you know, supernatural activity. And you just make the simple observations mathematically. This doesn't make sense. You know, why am I seeing this in these certain locations? Why isn't it happening all the time everywhere all over the world with the amount of people

that pass away every day? And then you just start to look at it from an analytical standpoint, which is what's happening. Can I line this up? Can I reverse engineer a poltergeist activity? And through your research, you were able to do that as, as you, as you're happening. you presented here with your presentation in your book, the Sphere Network.

And that led you to then coming to the ultimate conclusion that it seems like, again, according to your work here, that the orbs, the spheres, we get them mixed up with poltergeist activity, but what it actually is, is some type of weapon

system for a hypersonic weapon that is actually used by some type of non-human entity. And it's step one, it's step two, it's step three. So it's incredible how you ended up coming to this conclusion and how one thing led to another. So I'll show you some examples of it. So in I see, when you come up with like an analysis, you will do replication examples to prove your point. And so I'm going to give you multiple replication examples. Yeah. So this here was off the UK. And again, you see the, it's a still

from a video. And you can see the type 1's right here. And this is type 2 right here. And you can see the reflection here as well. And this just come online and this is glowing up and this will swoop upwards into the sky. This one here was June 1971 in Canada. You got the type 1, sorry, type 2 here, just off the ground. And you've got the type 1 V formation right here.

That's in horizontal configuration, which means the target is directly above. This one here was over, I think it was over Florida. I can't lose track of where these places are. This is all above a house. And again, you have the type 2 right here. That's center of the type 1 V formation right here. So they're always lining up.

Yeah, I'm sorry. So they're always lining up in some type of relay where there has to be some type of line of sight. Like you said, the same way our satellites work. And you have these relays. And it's a repeated pattern that you're seeing. Like there's always some type of positioning where a relay could be happening here. Yeah.

It's doing a mathematical process. It's fascinating. It's effectively, in this particular formation, it's doing trilateration and it's homing in on targets, airborne targets. And so in this configuration, it is a target is at 1 o'clock. So you got to remember, this is hypersonic. So this is all over the sky at once. So when people take pictures of it, sometimes you get them in formation. Other times it will be look more like a swarm versus free positioning.

Yeah, I do want to do. too, Patrick, like how often, I guess as far as they're just being captured, we happen to capture them sometimes. But it seems like these weapons, I guess I can say, are being fired quite often. Oh, yeah, every day. Wow. So there's some type of fight going on, some type

of intergalactic battle. According to your researcher, according to your presentation, there was an intergalactic battle that is taking place every day and Earth has a staging area for it. Well, I don't know about staging area, but there is definitely income in traffic because the thing is you can determine how often it happens by monitoring the buildings themselves. So if you're getting portuguese effects in a building, that's occurring because the type 3 is relaying signals. And it'll only relay signals when the network is in action, as in it's intercepting or tracking an object. So I was in 30 East Drive a couple of years ago when three or two or three meteorites,

at least they said they were meteorites, exploded over the United Kingdom. And when you look at the map, it was actually just not that far from where I was in 30 East Drive. And that night there were three portuguese effects. You see, so it's like, okay, they're detecting something coming in, the network starts firing up, start relaying signals, they start producing portuguese, guys affects to move people away. So it all adds up. You know, to me, it all adds up quite easily. Yes. That's what it appears to be. So as you can see, it's the same process. He reoccurring, reoccurring and reoccurring. If you took this data into any corporate meeting,

they would give it a hundred percent thumbs up. I mean, it's, it's hard to refute because what you've done here is you have broken down. And I don't even think, you know, I guess a criticism, criticism somebody can make and by all means I always leave every conversation open to interpretation and to critique and to form in your own opinion and I so I try to think from devil's advocate sometimes and I think a critique that somebody would try to make here and I'm curious to get your take on it is well Patrick is just cherry picking here he's finding different pictures of you know they just happen to be in the same V formation they just happen to be within the same line to the smaller orb and he found those to fit his narrative.

Is that, would that be a fair argument to make? No, not really, no. Okay. Which is fine. Again, that's not personally what I think, but I try to think what somebody would say. Someone would say that who haven't read the books, you don't understand what they're reading and don't understand what they're looking at. Sure.

You can give this information to anyone technical, any person in, say, computers or IT or any sort of science at all and they will agree with it. It's so simple. And I'll show you here. This is kind of like the golden shot. So this is an example of an intercept. So this is showing a glowing orb flying in the sky. Yeah. And as you can see, there's an object that comes in and you can see another one here. Yeah, there was an object going towards the orb and it kind of stops on top of it. It kind of hovers over it a little bit and then fly. away. It almost gets close and then flies

away it looks like, right? So this guy is looking through the telescope as he's watching this. Okay. So here is his telescope. Yeah. Shot through the telescope. Okay. So he sees the... And it's funny because, you know, from a layman's view, it looks like the moon, right? You're looking at a dusk sky and it looks like the moon, but he knows he's not

looking at the moon. So he's got a pretty nice civilian telescope. And he was looking through the viewfinder there with his phone, to kind of get like a close-up. Yeah, and now you see the explosion right here. There is an explosion. Yeah, look at that.

And then what you see is a triangle right here. Right. See it? The triangle formation. Right there. Right, and they kind of break apart there in formation. I mean, there's a pretty clear explosion. Yeah, and that is in horizontal configuration,

which means it's either above or below, and in this configuration is below. So what you're seeing is a space-based, explosion of an object that shouldn't explode. And you've got a triangle formation above it, which matches the mathematics and the form and the formations will be seeing in our own airspace. Well, that video there is a good argument against what someone would say that, you know, Patrick was just cherry picking different pictures and such.

That's a good example as to this is something that somebody took from their telescope showing some type, something's exploding. I mean, something is exploding in the sky there. Yeah. And that actually brought me to something that I was just thinking about before, Patrick, which is any ideas, any type of indication as to how far these hypersonic weapons are firing. I assume just like if we talk about conventional human warfare, you might shoot a missile, you know, 500 miles away versus an intercontinental, you know, ballistic missile

that would be shot 1,500 miles away. So there might be different capabilities for different missions, but I do wonder, is there any type of indication as to how far these things are going, where the targets are, and if they're obviously that one hit their target, but any other scenarios where we know the target was hitting how far away it was?

It's hard to say, but I mean, I did get some interesting footage myself. Let me just try and grab this. for you. Yeah, while you bring it up, I'll ask you too. Were you surprised by this? Again, kind of going back to what we were saying before, starting from you're just curious about how poltergeist activity works. Can you break it down?

Can you reverse engineer it and come up with some type of mathematical explanation for it? And then it ends up taking you to this. So did you get surprised along the way on what you ended up coming across here and kind of cracking the toe, if you will? Yeah, I mean, it wasn't my intention to find it. I just followed the day. really and the patterns and the math really and but when I when I figured out what it was it was like I did get I got the shakes for a for a moment yeah it just like

shot going through me and I never get the shakes I've never had that before so it's kind of like a very unique moment but I mean I can show you I mean this this is fairly common so a good example this was filmed in my own back garden and I've got like a night vision camera and what you start seeing is these deep space flashes. You see it? Yeah, these quick flashes, right. Yeah, the high-energy flashes are very high-energy flashes. Wow.

And it's not just one, and it's not in the same spot. If you really look close, it's actually in different areas. Yeah, multiple spots. And this is what AI does, you see. If you have like an AI defense network, what it will do is it will bring you in, and then you'll optimize an attack pattern and then shoot you all at once. Wow. That's what it does.

Right. So like a smart cluster bomb, if you will. Kind of, yeah. So that's why you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, twenty, thirty. It's just multiple flashes, yeah. Four of once, yeah. Really something here. As you sit back and you look at everything, you look at the videos that you've been presenting here today, you look at the pictures.

What are your. final conclusions as you sit back and kind of give your your you know thesis statement on this well that what what it really concludes to is that there is a second species that live here on earth even maybe a cluster of them but they live here on earth just like us the only thing is we live on the surface and i think they live underground or under the oceans like in big complexes um and they have built deployed a hypersonic defense network that can be seen with the naked eye. It mathematically can be tracked and determined, modeled.

It can be detected, traced. It's all there. It's just depends. And what I've shown you today is what I can show publicly, but I do have stuff that is I can't show publicly yet. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, oh yeah. And as I said, I can't also, you know,

help industry as well. So although the public domain is still catching up, I've been doing this for a long time, you know, in the private sector as well. So you've seen even more convincing evidence on the private sector. Oh yeah. And that can't be shown just because of NDAs you have with with private companies, I assume. And does that have anything to do? And of course, people, you know, the ears perk with things like that do. Is this have anything to do with, you know, government, contracts that tell you this is alien technology so people can't see it or is this just strictly you know business partners? No, no.

When it comes to like high technology companies, they always keep quiet until their product is released. Sure. Okay. Okay. And that's the way it rolls. Yeah, for sure. So are we trying to do this, Patrick, as far as reverse engineering or when I say we, I mean,

you know, the human race, whether it's the UK, whether it's the U.S., Russia, China, whoever, are we trying to catch up and build sphere networks like this, or have we already? Well, from what I can tell, the sphere network itself is we can't replicate it. It's just too powerful, too big, too fast. It's not something that we can replicate at all at the moment. there are other things like golden dome that's been created but that's not using the same kind of architecture but as I said there is an emphasis now on building planet planetary level defense systems right the truth is when it comes to warfare nuclear weapons really finished warfare

the real warfare, you know, between Western countries would be nuclear and would go nuclear very, very quickly. Yeah. So the defense industry, the next level of warfare is space. Yeah, clearly, right. I mean, they're not even really hiding anymore. I think you're completely right on that. I mean, just recently, the Secretary of War, Pete Hexeth, had a whole conference on it, calling it Project Meridian, putting Elon Musk and Lucky Palmer in charge of it with, with Newt Gengrich and talking about the future of warfare, talking about autonomous warfare.

President Trump has spoken about it when it comes to Space Force. I mean, in having the ability to fight wars from space. So it's not even science fiction. It's not conjecture. I think you're 100% correct on that. Why would you bother building a spaceship, you know, to fight wars in space when most of the countries around the world don't have the same technology? Yeah, it's interesting. Or I mean, like, I mean, Russia, you know,

has good nuclear weapons, but they don't have the budget to create anything like a spacecraft, like a weapon platform in space of any considerable threat. Other countries around the world definitely can't. The UK certainly can't. We're broke, literally. So Europe can't do it. Western Europe can't do it.

Russia can't do it. China probably could, but again, they have microchips. shortages. They can't build a they're having problems with their microchip production so they can't build these things so who you find against? Yeah. Why you why why would they want space force? Right. Unless there's something that the public are not aware of it's it's always been a very interesting thought of mine as well with

with with those questions. Um, so yeah it's it's it's just wholly fascinating the entire thing when you look at the scope of it and again for for devil's advocates, sake, you know, an argument would be, well, then obviously these are things that we've created, even though I ask you the direct question, can we do it yet? Your answer is no, but some people might argue, well, they just don't want us knowing that. But I think what people have to keep in mind is when you play point-counterpoint here is we were talking about examples from the 1800s, from the early 1900s. We may have secret technology then that they don't want us to know about. We can argue that until our faces are blue, but we certainly didn't have it in 1850. We didn't

have it in 1900. I think you can all agree on that. You can map back how long this has been here. See, the very first instance of recorded Portuguese occurred in the second century. Wow. So if there's the same thing occurring, you know, back then it is today, because it's the same patterns and behaviors are recorded back then as they are today. That's how long it's been here. So when you look at, when you, when you think about the Syria network like the size of these objects. Some of them are about this big, as I said, baseball, some of this big. To create something that has the energy levels, the networking, you know, the artificial intelligence, all this processing that it has to do, we can't even build chips today that could do that.

Yeah. You know, so, and when people talk about secret technology and the government or whatever, the government just points to industry and say build as something. Right. And what they build turns it goes into mainstream markets. So if they could build like these ultra fast processes and energy systems two decades ago, it's a three decades ago, we would have had all this technology drip down into mainstream industry because they're, you know, they're capitalists. They want to make money.

Right. Right. Yeah. I think I agree with that. When there's money to be made, they want to make it for sure. I did want to ask you about Beatrice, and Beatrice Villarillo, of course, and her work on the pre-Sputnik transients in space,

as she has called it in her research. What kind of communication have you guys had and cooperation on each other's research? Has there been any? Oh, yeah, yeah, plenty. I mean, we mean her talk quite frequently. Okay. I show her my secret stuff and she shows us some stuff and whatever.

And it's like, from what I can tell, she's seeing the same thing in space. She is seeing the sphere network in space. That's what the transients are. Right. It's just we're just trying to refine the filters to be able to determine what they are seeing on the plates. So it's kind of like they just have to get the filters. filters right in order to extract the data. But that's what it appears to be.

Because she's already said publicly that her money is on the serial network. The money is on my work, my research. And it's a drone network, which consists of hundreds of thousands of drones. And I think what's worth pointing out to Patrick, just before we're done here, is we're not saying, in fact, I think it's quite the opposite. that they could probably actually would make a stronger case for other craft. We're not saying that other craft don't exist. We're not saying that extraterrestrials in saucer-shaped craft, in egg-shaped craft, in cigar-shaped craft, whatever triangles, the big triangles.

We're not saying those don't exist. We're saying that maybe those are some of the ones that are being shot down or shot at, right? Yeah. And this is the apparatus. The spheres, the orbs are the apparatus that are doing that. Yeah, I mean, how it would have to work, how it logically models out, is again, you have like a drone network surrounding the planet. And all it really does is look for signatures, incoming signatures into our airspace, which mean those signatures could be electronic or, you know, other forms, light signatures, for example. And so it has a library of signatures that is looking out for.

Now and again, something will come through that will have unique signatures that it won't detect. So it's the same as an antivirus on a computer. Okay. So a virus will have particular signatures and then it will try and penetrate the operating system, and then the antivirus will jump on it and then isolate it and delete it. It's the same thing, but kind of like in the sky. So you have an object with a unique signatures come on in, and then it will penetrate through the network, and then when it gets very low, the sphere network will swarm it, and then what

will do, it will knock it, knock it out. will then land on the ocean or on land or in the back of people's yards in Vegas for example. Then what will happen is the Tick-Tac will come in and the Tick-Tac it looks to be a retrieval craft. It effectively will come down and do a thing called quantum locking, which is like a big magnet. We will just jump onto it and then extract the craft out. And this has been seen doing this since the Vietnam days, pulling things out of the ocean and stuff. And what will happen then is those craft will have to be taken somewhere wherever this network has been run. It'll have to be analyzed.

And what you do is you get the unique signatures out of it. You can extract those and then you add them to the library, which then the network can be updated and then fill that hole. So this is, so what you really have is machine learning of a like a penetration test. You have machines trying to penetrate the network. and then you have another AI, which is learning the signatures and then closing the loops. I think one thing I think about, too,

and it's just, it's incredible research, Patrick, I really have to give it to you. One thing I think about, though, is why so much fighting? And maybe that's the concerning part for me is why is there so much fighting going on where these weapons, the sphere network, is a weapon, right, according to your research, search. Why is it being used so much? Of course, that boils down to who is using it. What race of

entity is responsible for this? Are they firing it from Earth? Is there a base under the water? Like David Grush is just talking about with Joe Rogan, Tim Burchett, Congressman Tennessee has spoken about before from Tim Gallaudet on down of all the people who have spoken about, say, underwater bases that are, or craft that are as wide as city blocks as they've described underwater. Is that, an assertion that we can make that maybe this entity,

the race that is responsible for this, would be controlling it from underwater or underground bases or somewhere out in deep space on a mothership and everything that we're seeing, Ticktaks, spheres are all autonomous drones?

No, so how the architecture models out is it is ultra-pressure. So all the infrastructure, everything is under the ground, you know, maybe a thousand feet on the ground, maybe more. And I think Skinwalker has this as well. That's why Skinwalker that they're picking up gamma radiation and microwave bursts coming from Mesa. Because underneath the Mesa, there is one of these data centers, if you want to call it that. Something like a control net, control hub.

So there is a second group or second species, where we want to call it, that live here, that don't really want to talk to us, you know, in the same way that we don't really talk to primates. Yeah. And they have deployed this network up in space and it's been here pretty much forever. Maybe as long before we were even here. So that's what it looks to be. Wow. And it's amazing to watch it.

I mean, once you really process it and you understand how it works and you can literally look up in the night sky and see it in your own mind. It's just, it is just like epic. It is. It's ultra-terrestrial engineering on a level that makes our mega projects look like nothing. So I guess the other question would be here then. They're defending Earth, right? I mean, and it's happening quite often. I guess, again, that's the concerning part, right?

Is that something or someone is trying to get here enough over the years, decades, centuries, millennia, if we want to extrapolate it out, that they're trying to get here so much that they've created this network in order to defend where they live as well. Is that fair to say? Fair to say, yeah. It's incredible. It's scary, actually. It's a little unnerving when you think of it that way. But according to what you presented here today, it's...

that's that's what the evidence shows. There's like this other, you know, race living here somewhere underneath the earth like you mentioned, you know, at the bottom of the sea somewhere at different bases. And they are invested in Earth as much as we are. Well, they live here just like we do. Yeah. So they, you know, they are interested in keeping the planet in one piece. And I think humans themselves, I think humans actually play a role.

in the network as well. So if you think about it, like if they live underground and we live on the surface, and you look at our genetic history, for example, they say that we are kind of like based on primates. You know, there was some sort of missing link. Right. And then human create. So the question is like, why would you do that?

If you could, if you were an advanced species and live underground, why would you create, why would you blend your DNA with primates? Well, the only conclusion that you do is to have the same attributes as a primate. You have your big, strong, basically an intelligent killing machine. So when you think about that, what does it really make humans? Or at least, what did it make us originally? Well, it makes us the third line of the fence. So if something is coming through the network and it crashes down the ground,

then you've got the humans to deal with. crazy, you know, very aggressive primal creatures who just attack. Do you think we're expendable in that sense? Oh, I don't know. I mean, I think things have changed over the over time. But the same process, we still, I think we still have the same role because, but now it's done by special forces. Right.

So before it was done by the more public, should we say the general public? Right. Now it's done by special forces. Do you think this idea, Patrick, also plays into the multiple accounts we've heard from whistleblowers and experiencers about alien human cooperation on military installations that this would play into that. We're working on these types of things together. Oh, completely. Yeah. Yeah. You would have a crossover, definitely. I mean, and again, just like David was talking about the other night, but Joe Rogan, is that you had special forces. engaging a reptilian or something next to a downed craft. So the only way you can down a craft, which is a super advanced hypersonic craft, is by using a weapon system that is more advanced

than it or equally advanced as it. Now, the sphere of the sphere network itself is obviously a network of drones that are hypersonic and that can all talk to each other at the same time and coordinate in real time. So that's the kind of thing. that you would use to bring down something like that. And then when it's on the ground, humans deal with it. Right. We go there and we clean up, we mop up. And that was the, as I said, they killed these guys with machine guns.

Yeah. So it will make sense. It does. We are what we are. That's what we do. And unfortunately, humans, if you look at the world population, the most common thing we are good at is war. There's been a lot of.

of it over the years for sure yeah yeah and um maybe our what we what we think is on our negative behavior is actually the our kind of our role if you understand you're right right where we fit into the spectrum but we fit into it yeah it's this this this really kind of opens up this whole like a whole can of worms here um which is what i love is you know to kind of have that thought process of you know a plus B equal C so then what and so this is really kind of what we open up here today Patrick is you know kind of a sphere network 101 and every thought after that which wait this so if this is true then X Y and Z must also be in consideration and it's it's been incredible so is there anything else we could go on for the

next three hours but is there anything else that's you would like to throw up Patrick that that we didn't cover I think I think in the next six to eight months is going to be some, you know, big announcements that will confirm the network is up there. And I can't say who it will come from or or but it will happen. It's that simple. Now that's really interesting and I can't leave on that. That's a great cliffhanger. I appreciate that just from a showmanship perspective. But I do as a great as well. It is. Well, Well, it's very interesting. So I have to ask a follow-up question, which would be what makes you so confident?

Is it just your own, I hate to say feeling, but just your own conclusion based off of your research? Or does it have more to do with your partnerships in the private market or the private industry that you can't really go into, that you can't really delve into? Is it that that's leading you to believe that we're going to see that in six to eight months? Really? Okay. Can you expand out in it all or no? No. No. No. No. But yeah, but, but, but it, I mean, I think what is what's going to be developed or what's in development is will be amazing. It's actually amazing. And you have to see it to believe it. Technology wise or announcement wise? Technology. Well, what is possible? I don't mean like building like a, you know, anti-gram.

gravity thing. I mean, you would just see things in a very different way. That's how I can put it. Paradigm shift. Yeah, I think so. But as I said, you know, I'm, you know, the sphere network, I've been talking about this for, gosh, years now. And it's really only now people are catching up on it, you know, because things are happening in politics and through whistleblowers as well. It's all lining up. It's all lining up to the final conclusion, which is there is a network of drones, which has been also confirmed by Beatrice in what she's been saying. Hundreds of thousands of them, if not millions, that are in our atmosphere. And I think it's just a matter of time, maybe less than a year, maybe a little bit longer, that it will be finally announced that there is

this network and it is a defense network is that simple just amazing stuff Patrick honestly truthfully this was one of the more fascinating conversations I've had over the past five plus years

of doing this show and I'm really happy we could finally do it again I know we had the X space about a year ago but I didn't get to go in depth on a lot of the things that we did today so just to go from point A to point Z like we did today has been really, really educational and thought-provoking for sure, really to say the least on that. So hopefully we can keep in touch, obviously, through social media and everything.

And as things develop, continue to develop towards the end of this year and then into 27. Who knows? It's been a lot of rumors about 2027. We can continue to talk and I'll bring you back on as we continue this wild journey of discovery. No worries. All right. Nice talk to you.

Yes. Thank you very much. Patrick Jackson, check him out. If you haven't, check out his work, the Sphere Network. Check him out on social media. See what he's doing there. And we'll talk again soon. Thanks. Thanks so much, Patrick.

No worries. Thank you. Thanks. And there we go there. So thank you again, Patrick. And I did mention at the end, make sure to check out his stuff, his work. You can search for him anywhere online to put him Patrick Jackson, Sphere Network.

And all his work will pop up on Google and on his social media accounts as well. But just really, really cool stuff. And, you know, there's always times when you do a, an interview. And I've mentioned this before with other interviews, and it's funny how it kind of works out because sometimes you're not sure how an interview is going to go. You're not exactly sure what to expect. You want it. You imagine the conversation going one way, but it goes in other. And you start to get a little bit nervous. You're like, oh, geez, I don't know. But then as it all unfolds, you realize, oh, my gosh, this is one of the craziest things I've ever heard in my life. And I can't wait for everybody else to hear it. And that's basically what this was for me with my entire conversation with Patrick. You know, I, I try to steer it in a certain way as far as the questions that I want to present. Sometimes, though, it ends up going a different way. And this is just a lesson that I continue to learn that I think is important to put it out there. Instead of because we can apply it to everyday life, instead of panicking when a situation doesn't go the way you intended it to go or had planned it to go, sometimes we just need to let things take place and roll with the punches and see where it lands.

and every time that has happened to me and every time I've just decided to let go and see where it lands, it has turned out wild, like really well in a way, wild in the best way where it was like, okay, I couldn't even imagine how this was going to end up.

I couldn't have planned this. So just, you know, life lesson, I guess, that I want to throw it out there that I continue to learn sometimes during these interviews where it's like sometimes you're just better off going with the flow and seeing how things, things turn out and you might surprise yourself with how well they turn out. And I think that's what

happened here during this conversation because that was so incredible to consider this whole sphere network idea about, as he put it at the end, the network of hypersonic drones that communicate and coordinate with each other to shoot down craft. And then basically the United States military would play cleanup crew to possibly work with other alien races or work against, like we heard from David Grush, you know,

maybe fights breakout. The tic tacks are being used as some type of extraction craft as he presented there. So maybe you think this is a ton of rubbish. Maybe you think it was the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard or maybe you like opened up

your horizons. I'm like, wow, this actually does make sense that it could work this way. that all these orbs that we see are this some type of sphere network and it adds up with other stories and other accounts that we've heard from other witnesses and whistleblowers. So whatever you get out of it, hopefully it's something positive at least, but I think it was a conversation that was really important to have to throw out these possibilities of what could really be happening and how this could all kind of play together with all the other questions that we have. You know, some type of extraterrestrial race living here.

on earth, whether that's, you know, under the water or underground somewhere, as you heard Patrick say, his hypothesis, some type of, you know, ultra-terrestrials, that seems like it would be plausible with this whole scenario. And you did hear him say mentioning his work with Beatrice Villarreal. And of course, we know about her work with her own thing about spheres and transients in space pre-Sputnik. And so it was interesting to hear that they're working together closely, kind of sharing notes, comparing notes, and sharing research to kind of see where they both land on this. And you heard him mention about how she was looking at the possibility of the sphere network in space and how far that goes out. So to think about how, you know, all this research comes together with different

researchers, maybe we hear more about this in the future, specifically six to eight months. You heard Patrick mentioned that as well toward the end. And that definitely caught my ear, my ear as you heard because that lines up with what other people have said connecting to 2027, you know, that that would be some type of year where things are revealed or some type of dramatic event takes place. David Grush is now talking about it as well where something next year he thinks that same type of timeline six to eight months where possibly President Trump would disclose something. So a lot of people are kind of lining up on the same timeline. So what does mean? Does that mean they're playing copycat with each other and they're just parroting each other's

takes? Or are they getting similar information from separate sources and we can actually connect those dots? I suppose time will tell, but it is something that I definitely picked up on and it is worth noticing and worth mentioning for sure. But you heard he kind of had to play shy there a little bit when he was talking about, you know, he does see more things. He has seen more evidence and he has more evidence that is even more damning that he cannot put out because of different NDAs that he has. And that was the one thing, well, maybe one of the things I should say that I really did find to be reputable when it comes to Patrick and how he presented himself and the information that he was presenting is the fact that he does do work with private corporations with private

industry. This isn't, you know, some guy just theorizing online about something. This is a guy that gets paid, I'm assuming, I don't know what he makes, but I'm assuming just based off of his background, probably gets paid pretty handsomely to do the work that he does, to reverse engineer, to back engineer different scenarios and do all the IT work that he does for private industry and for private contracting companies. I assume they pay him probably a good deal of money to do the work that he does. And if you're going to do that for somebody, then it's probably somebody who's pretty reputable that you trust and who does good work. And just in speaking with him as much as I did, I can tell that he's a very studious person, a very astute person and smart.

And in the way that he kind of applies in the way that he approaches a situation and with all these analytics and looks at it from this analytical point of view. And just there's just no fluff. It's all, you know, true or false with him. And that's probably why he does very well with private contractors because you're just looking at what's in front of you. There's no conjecture. There's no, okay, is this part of, you know, this conspiracy theory or something?

No, it's just what are the details? What are the facts of the case? What are the tangible numbers that I can work with to figure this out? Which I love because that's what I try to do here on UAP when it comes to telling the stories and looking into different aspects of the UAP phenomenon. So from that aspect, it is encouraging to talk about, you know, how. Patrick is approached on the outside from other companies. And apparently what else he knows that is leading him to believe that we are on some type of six to eight month timeline.

Of course, we'll see how this plays out. We've heard of timelines before and they always come and go. So that's not to say that this is, you know, the gospel truth. But it is completely interesting to me that his timeline matches up with others that we've heard, that his reasoning is different because his goes toward the people he's working with and what he knows is going on behind the scenes. And it sounds like he was kind of hinting at a reveal of technology that would be some type of disclosure for us to see. Again, we'll all find out together, apparently.

But I will try to continue to do my best here on UAP as we go down this road, this journey of, you know, learning new things every single time and trying to connect the dots along the way. It is wild. You talk about kind of going with the flow, right? And you have a plan to start out with, but it doesn't go the way you think. So you just kind of have to let go and go with the flow. That's been my entirety of UAP. I mean, when this whole thing first started back in July of 21, I had a vision for the show and I executed that vision for a while. And then I wasn't sure which road to go down. So I thought, let's just see how this goes and continue the path. And by all means, I could never have imagined to be where we are today with this discussion. or the people that I talk to on and off the mic privately and publicly, there's no way that I could have ever imagined that I'd be part of this conversation and the way that I have become over the past, you know, just a couple of years

as part of this five-year journey with UAP. So I guess that sets it in a microcosm, but just really incredible stuff to consider going even back to part one about how this would connect with poltergeist activity. You know, maybe there is that case of mistaken identity in some cases where these type three orbs, these small ones are being confused for poltergeist activity, but it's really a communication device to the type two to the type one spheres to fire a weapon. It's just unbelievable to really put this all into perspective. And I hope that you were as fascinated as I was

with this entire thing. There was one more part, though, that I wanted to touch on. And I meant to touch on it at the end of part one. And I did not skip it on purpose. It was a actually something that slipped my mind when I was putting that together. And that was something that absolutely caught my attention when he said that the uptaken orb sightings, because, you know, I asked him in part one, when did you notice the uptaken orb sightings? Because we always spoke about different shapes. And then all of a sudden, like, it feels like everything became orbs. It became spheres. And he mentioned that, you know what? Actually, I noticed an uptake around the time of the disappearance of MH370 back in March of 2014.

And I was like, well, that's interesting. Now, you heard him say that, you know, he believes. And like I said, during the interview and I'll say it again, I am not here to argue about whether or not the videos from Ashton Forbes or that the videos that Ashton Forbes related to the world, whether or not those are real or fake or CGI, whatever. I'm not here to do that. I'm not arguing that. I'm going based off of what, you know, Patrick was saying here.

Patrick, as he said in the interview, felt like that those videos showing the orb circling, a plane and teleporting it. He feels like that's CGI that those aren't real videos. But his take on it is that that was some type of dramatic illustration to be put out for people to see to show people some type of capability. And if that's the case, it is interesting one way or the other, coincidentally or not, and it doesn't seem like a coincidence for one reason or another. How does it add up?

I'm not really sure. but the fact is he's saying the uptick in orbs he noticed going back starting with the MH370 disappearance and with that video with the three orbs teleporting the plane through some type of wormhole so make of that what you will I just thought that was kind of weird because whether or not the video is real or not whether or not that happened or not the fact that it does go back to that it's kind of strange he also mentioned you know 52% of sightings or orb sightings since then. That's a big number, considering of all the other shapes and crafts we talk about,

whether it's, you know, the pod shape that people see sometimes, the jellyfish, which is kind of rare. You know, you know them, all the cigar, the tick-tac, the triangle. I mean, of course, the classic saucer shape, but more than half now, what of what had been reported are the orbs. And that's really interesting to me. So does that mean if we go by Patrick's, and this is just, you know, kind of a hypothesis that I bring up here, maybe a question to chew on for another day, but if we're talking about, talking about more than half of the sightings or orbs these days. And we go by Patrick's research here

that he presented during these two parts that the sphere network is some type of, you know, advanced weapon, this network of hypersonic drones that can communicate and coordinate with the other drones, the shoot down craft. If that's what this is and we're seeing more of it now since 2014, then why are we seeing more of it now? Why are there, as Patrick, you know, kind of put forth the theory that there's thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of these things around the earth every single day performing weapons capabilities. Why is that happening more now? Is there a bigger threat than there was before in the past? Is there more of a fight now? Is there more, are there more incursions from possible bad actors who want to do bad to the earth or to humans?

I mean, you know, like I said, at the end of the interview, this opens, whole thing opens up Pandora's box. And you see why I say that now because of all these questions that pop up in my head where if this is real and we take the leap to say that this is what is really happening, then does that mean X, Y, and Z are happening because of it? Encourions every day, shootdowns every day? Why? What is going on? Who's trying to get here? Who's threatening planet Earth? And why does this sphere network have to be used so often to the point where now half the sightings we've seen over the past 12 years are all orbs. There's no denying that the uptick is there.

And that's all anybody talks about is seeing orbs these days. That's what it feels like. So that would mean that it's being used more. And there must be a reason for that. And that's kind of concerning. Like, why would that be? Again, Pandora's Box. And we'll see where this goes next.

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