UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 28: Evidence of Real Giants

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

Could there have been a time when giants walked the earth? Are they still amongst us today? And could there be an otherworldly connection? These are just some of the questions that we explore... as we look into evidence that Giants were once, and may still be, part of humanity. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Or if it's your first time joining us, then sit back and enjoy. And you can always find the other episodes, too. And we'll tell you how. Karen, how are you? I'm well. Thank you. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Today is going to be, I think, a lot of fun. I think we're going to have fun with this one because we're going to venture, we're going to venture off the beating path a little bit, off the traditional path that we've taken throughout the course of this show, but still tie it back to the mystery and aliens and things of that nature. But we're going to talk a little bit more about giants. Did they really exist?
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's sort of weird. You know, we talked about different types and species of aliens. Right. And I think we kind of sort of got into different sizes of aliens, but this idea of giant people, maybe being hybrid human aliens. Right. And hairy, wild, big, giant men. So things are getting weird in here now.
Starting point is 00:02:06 But we got a lot to get to with that. So it's going to be fun. But before we get into these mysteries here today, Karen, do you have a factoid for us? I do. Oh, good. So I'm going to, since we're talking about giants today, did you know, there's tiny people that live in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Excuse me? Yeah, tiny little people. They're not gnomes. Okay. They're called Minahoon. Oh, the Minahoonie, sure. Yeah. It's M-E-N-E-H-U-N-H-N-H-N-H-N-H-N-H-N-H-E.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Because in the Hawaiian language, you pronounce all the vowels, which I worked there in radio. So you know. Well, it took me a while to know how to say stuff. I would get people calling, tell her it's Makawao, because I'd say Makawua. And then one day it came over the wire. They had just passed the state fish, the Humu-Humu-Nuku-Nuku-Nuku-Oi fish. You still remember to this day. Oy.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Anyway, the Minahune are mythological dwarf people. in the Hawaiian tradition, and they're said to live in the deep forest and hidden valleys of the Hawaiian islands, and they are hidden so far away from human settlements that they're rarely seen, but they are the, the Minahoonie is the mascot of the U.S., of the U.H. Rainbow Warriors, the Hawaiian. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I've seen that before. Football team. I went to the University of Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And the Minahoonie are described as superb craftspeople. They build temples, fish ponds, roads, canoes, and houses. Nice. That's fun. But they're just little tiny. Yes, little tiny houses. Now, let me ask you this. Were there any actual sightings?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Like, would people say, hey, I saw Minahoonie in, you know, the forest the other day? Did people ever come to you being a newscaster, respected newscaster and journalist? Did they ever come to you and say we saw some? Only on the sidelines of the college football games. Okay, fair enough. So there we're talking about little, little people. Here we're going to be talking about giant people because I think, I think, and again, you can always make up your own mind. And that's what we do here.
Starting point is 00:04:08 We present you with the evidence, I suppose, you could say. And you make up your own mind on, you know, what you think might be the case. But I think there's a real case for this year today, Karen, their giants did exist. There's evidence that they did exist. Now, and maybe they still do. I don't know. But we'll get to that. But first, how about we go in chronological order?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let's go back thousands of years to Old Testament times. Oh, boy. Because we're getting biblical here today. In the Hebrew Bible, there is a group of people, a race of giants, as they were referred to in the Bible, as the Nephilim. The mysterious beings, Nephlim. Yes. Now, they're described as unusually large size and unusual amount of strength. And they lived both before and after the ground.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Great Flood with Noah. Are they like Beowulf? I don't know. Not really. Because, well, they're referenced in Genesis, the book of Genesis, and a book of numbers. So pretty much. And maybe the book of Ezekiel, there's some, you know, fights or debate about that. Now, it comes from the Hebrew word, pretty much Nephilim, but spelled with an F instead
Starting point is 00:05:19 of a pH, is how we say it in English, sometimes directly translated to giants. Okay. Well, there you go. Or it can be taken to mean the fallen one. which there's a reason for that that we're going to get to. And it's from the Hebrew word, Nafal, which means to fall. Ah, with a P.A.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Right. So there's a couple of different derivatives where this came from, and that's important. But the identity of the Nephilim is debated by scholars. Now, they are mentioned just before the flood, the flood account, I guess I should say, in Genesis chapter 6, verse 4. Now, in that verse, it states,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Nephilim were on the earth in those days. and also afterward, when the sons of God went into the daughters of humans who bore children to them. These were the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown, such as Goliath, who is a famous warrior. So they're hybrids again is what they're saying. That's one of the theories. And it's been a longstanding theory when it comes to the Nephilim especially that they are some type of hybrid of fallen angels. because if you go back to the Son of God reference there in the book of Genesis, sons of God, not Son of God, sons of God, then that refers to angels.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Angels were called, there were different references according to Bible scholars. Throughout the Bible, throughout the books in the Old Testament, Ezekiel being one of them, which we just mentioned, that the term sons of God referred back to angels. I thought Lucifer was a fallen angel. That's what they say, yes. That's what they say. So they say that fallen angels came down.
Starting point is 00:06:54 to earth. Other fallen angels came down to earth and impregnated human women and you end up having these hybrid human angels who became giants, who became this race of Nephilim as they're called now. And Goliath was a Nephalm? Well, not necessarily. So that's also debated because they say anyway that Goliath actually comes from a family of giants. Oh. Which I didn't know. But he had sons who were also considered to be giants, too.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Now, just to put... So he had his own basketball team. He did. And I want to get to Goliath's size here. But just to get back to this real quick, because the Nephilim are mentioned again in the book of numbers. In chapter 13, it says, as the Israelites were preparing to enter the land of Canaan, it says, in this verse 32 through 33,
Starting point is 00:07:49 it says, so they brought to the Israelites an unfavorable report of the land. that they had spied out saying, quote, the land that we have gone through as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants. And all the people that we saw in it are of great size. There we saw the Nephilim. I mean, it names them directly.
Starting point is 00:08:10 There we saw the nephalum. And to ourselves, we seemed like grasshoppers. And so we seemed to them. Wow, that's pretty big compared to, yeah, a grasshopper's tiny. Right. So you're talking about with Goliath, well, we'll get to his size in a minute. But the Nephlin were said to be even bigger than the size we're going to get to about Goliath.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And you have this direct account in the book of numbers from the Israelites who were trying to spy out on some lands, basically doing a land survey. And they see these giant beings that they knew as the Nephilim. And it's even said that they were kind of cannibals at some point. Oh, Lord. So maybe it was God tinkering around and he finally got. the size of humans right? Maybe, or these fallen angels, you know, went against God, like an anatomy of type thing, eating the apple from the tree type thing.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And it's even theorized that maybe that's why the great flood happened in the first place. So they couldn't swim? Just God trying to destroy these. Maybe what he looked at as abominations, something that he did not want on the earth. But they still survived after the flood as well, which there's some theories about that that we'll get to as well. So tell us about Glythe, because he's one of the best known
Starting point is 00:09:24 giants in the Bible. Absolutely. So he's described, Karen, and you know this, as a champion out of the camp of the Philistines. The Philistines. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Now, his height, as described in the Bible, was six cubits in his span. So what the heck does that mean? Yeah, what's a cubit? We had to look it up. I'm not going to pretend to be smart that I knew this offhand
Starting point is 00:09:43 because I did not. So according to the book of Samuel in chapter 17, verse four, it translates to 11 feet three inches. That's where his size, six cubits and his span came from, was that book of Samuel. 11 feet.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So don't let it be said that we don't dig deep. This time Stephen was in the Bible digging out actual Bible verses for you. I got verses. I got Bible scholar quotes. I got Google searches on cupids and spans. A lot of research on this one. 11 feet three. Wow, that's tall.
Starting point is 00:10:17 That's pretty tall. I mean, that would make, you know, someone like Shaq look like a little kid. You can imagine that. But there's some scholars that say what, the Bible translate his height as four cubits in a span, which would put them at what? Seven, eight, which is feasible. Which is feasible. So, I mean, because...
Starting point is 00:10:32 Well, how is four cubits smaller than three cubits? No, six cubits is where they had them. Oh, six. Excuse me. I apologize. Okay. No, it's confusing. I'm so confused.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So you... Oh, I got the three inches mixed up. That's all right. It happens. So you have, you have, again, different interpretations. And honestly, when you're dealing with the Bible, you're always going to be dealing with different interpretations. There's no...
Starting point is 00:10:51 There's a lot of different versions of the Bible. That's true. Some have 66 books, some whatever. Right. So, and this might be a controversial statement that I'm about to say, but there's really no, in my opinion, right answer when it comes to the Bible because you have different interpretations from different scholars, different sex of Christianity, of Judaism. So there's, you know, there's a lot to be said for what might be trying to be said in the Bible
Starting point is 00:11:14 itself. So even when it comes to Goliath's size, there's different interpretations and debate of what it might actually be, but if you go with that six cubits in a span, you're talking over 11 feet tall. That's very tall. Which is insane to even think about. So he was either, you know, a center for the Knicks or he was like really tall. But it doesn't stop there, Karen. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:35 We have more giants in the Bible. There are actually other races. Did you know that? No. The Nephilim, I think, are probably the most famous referenced giants in the Bible. if you kind of dive deep into the stuff like I have in the past, you know about the Nephilim, you've heard about them before. But there's actually other races of giants that are mentioned throughout the Bible,
Starting point is 00:11:57 such as the Imites, the Emonites, and the Refam. Then those are all referred to in the book of Deuteronomy. One of the most prominent Refium was Og. Oh. Well, I think you might have heard of Og before I've heard of him. He was the king of Bashan. And they say that he slept in what was referred to as a bedoured, a bedstead of iron.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Wow. Imagine going to rooms to go and they're advertising a bedstead of iron on sale. Memorial Day sale, bedstead of iron. That thing was huge. It was nine cubits according to Deuteronomy. Cubits. What is it, verse? Chapter three.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And now, again, a cubit was the distance. In case you wonder what a cubit is, it's the distance that they measured from the elbow to the fingertips. So you can do that yourself. If you measure from your elbow to your fingertips, that's a cube. But everyone's got a different size arm. Well, in Ogg's case... And a foot is actually from your elbow to your wrist.
Starting point is 00:12:53 To your wrist. Yeah. So if you go by that measurement, they say that his bed and his casket, by the way, his coffin, were both measured at 14 feet long. So if you're talking about that, unless you wanted some extra leg room, you might actually have a reference here in Ogg. The King of Bashan back in, you know, Old Testament times, might have been bigger than Goliath.
Starting point is 00:13:17 You know, my dad's reading the Bible right now and he was telling me that in the Bible, you had people living for a couple hundred years. Right. And women in their 90s having children. That's true. So, anything goes. Sarah with Abraham is a classic case of that with Isaac.
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Starting point is 00:15:58 You almost forget you're on a plane. And that's the point, because when you fly with Hawaiian airlines, it's hard to tell where your flight ends and vacation begins. Hawaii starts here. So what happened to these people, these big people? Well, there's some theories out there. Maybe they moved to other lands? They could have because, how about this?
Starting point is 00:16:22 There are eight-foot, ancient, eight-foot-tall statues that were found on the island of Sardemia, which is in the Mediterranean Sea. And these could be a clue. Now, the only thing we know about them is that basically they exist. Yeah, they do exist. And here's an excerpt. It's either from ancient aliens or the History Channel. Here we go. Somewhere there.
Starting point is 00:16:42 The most popular theory that currently prevails regarding the origin of the eight-foot-tall sculptures is that they're a product of the Nuragic civilization who lived on Sardinia between 1800 to 240 BCE when they lost their land to the ever-expanding Roman Empire. They left very little behind themselves in the form of written records, and unusually, there are few mentions made of them in the writings of any other civilization or culture. What they did leave behind, though, is their stonework, and the giant statues may be examples of it at its best. It wasn't until 1974 that the sculptures were found close to Cabras in the Islands West,
Starting point is 00:17:24 and they immediately puzzled the team that found them, because of the large disc shapes that represent their eyes. Because ancient tombs were found close to their position, it might be that they're intended to be guardians of the dead. Now. They look like C-3PO in Star Wars. I think Hollywood goes back and they look at all of these different types of things that have been found over the years,
Starting point is 00:17:49 and that's how they design their characters. You might be right. In these extraterrestrial movies. Yeah, you might be right, because when you see the picture, and you actually, we had them up right now on, Our UAP blog where all the fun stuff is at, 850WFTL.com. You can find all the past shows and all the past blogs to go along with those shows as well. And you can see the pictures right there.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And at our Twitter page, you're going to tweet it out, yes? Yes, that's right. Because we do have our new UAP show Twitter page. Twitter handle. What is it? It's UAP, it's UA podcast 850. Okay. See, I have kind of dual purpose there of the key.
Starting point is 00:18:23 UA podcast 850. You can follow the show on Twitter. And, again, we'll have the link for those pictures up there. too because when you see these things number one they're very tall like we said they're about eight feet tall and they have these weird necks even it's a very it's a weird shaped head they have these long necks and these giant disc-shaped eyes so kind of like we talked about last week with you know some of the strange statues that were found with those you know no arms yeah the bulging eyes you either had very bad artists or you had you had artists who had artists who
Starting point is 00:18:59 sculptors who were trying to sculpt something specifically of what they were seeing. And if that's the case, what were they seeing? Because these don't really look like humans the way that these are sculpted. And it's an ancient civilization that are barely in any records. So is it possible that this civilization that these statues are made after connected somehow to the giants of old from the Old Testament? Well, here's what they had to say about that. talk about the term Nephilim, it is associated with genetic hybrid entities. What this translates
Starting point is 00:19:35 to me is that they were part extraterrestrial. Part of that story involves the Great Flood. So it's also possible that they decided to set up new camps beyond the ones that were destroyed. So we have to wonder if Sardinia perhaps was a refuge for the Nephilim. It's the question that should be asked and of course you know it's in it's a reference from ancient aliens there of course we're always going to ask is this connected to aliens which is a fair question and that's you know the questions we ask as well um because when you'd see the statues again on our blog page at a 50 wftail.com they don't look human no so were they were the nephilum you heard them say nephalim so whatever however you want pronounce it i say nephalum were they connected
Starting point is 00:20:21 somehow to aliens, were they fallen angels, maybe some type of, you know, giant race that weren't the Nephilim, were connected to aliens, and these statues represent those. So, because according to the Bible, from the excerpts that we read, there were other races of giants. Another sizes. I think God's up there going, no, we need to make this homogenous. We need them all the same size so they can build buildings to live in. You can't have, like, different height people living in different buildings.
Starting point is 00:20:51 it would be crazy. It's fascinating. It's a fascinating question. It is. And it feels like the proof is there, at least from ancient times, that these types of beings existed. Yeah. I mean, there's photographic evidence of that.
Starting point is 00:21:02 We'll get to that in a moment. But there's also some, I don't want to say it's Paul Bunyan, but it's like really huge minoan axes, like tools for, they were made, they're giant for unknown purposes. Yeah, so these are ancient axes. Okay. So we're going back again a few thousand years. And they belonged to the Minoan people.
Starting point is 00:21:25 They lived on the island of Crete. Now, these things are so big and heavy that it was impossible, absolutely impossible, to even consider that a normal size human being could pick this thing up. Only Thor could. Yes, that's right. And if you don't believe us or if you don't know what we're talking about, again, I'll reference the website because we have the pictures of these axes up there as well. They exist.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They do exist. This is not some type of, you know, hyper. hypothetical thing. What if these axes existed? No, these have been found. They're in museum, in Crete, and we had the picture of it up on 850WFTL.com on the UAP blog to search the podcast section and go to UAP and you'll see our blog page. But why did they create them, I wonder. That's what we're trying to figure out. I don't know. And who was picking them up? I know. Right. Maybe they were ceremonial or something. They could have been ceremonial because if you're asking the question, they could have been symbolic,
Starting point is 00:22:18 that could have been ceremonial, or were they made for and by giant warriors? The question must be asked. It's possible. Let's listen. You'll find people who claim that there was once a species of giant humans living on our planet alongside regular-sized humans. There's very little evidence to support their claim, but the existence of old battle weapons like these enormous Minoan axes helps to add a little credence to their claims.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You can tell just by looking at them that there's no way a normal-sized human would ever be able to pick them up or use them in battle. So what else could they have been made for? All of the axes that have so far been recovered from the Minoan Megaron area of Niru date back between 1700 and 1300 BCE, and some of them have been heavily and ornately decorated. That makes it possible that they were used for ceremonial or worshipful purposes. But picking them up for a ceremony would still have been extremely difficult. And we don't know of any culture who ever worshipped axes. Their existence is a riddle.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But that still doesn't mean that they were made for giant warriors. Now, I will disagree with voice guy there who has a nice funky music, by the way. I have to say that porn music in the back. Yeah, I know what's going on there. But I will disagree with him when he says that, you know, there's not a lot of evidence to suggest that giants existed. Because I think we're making a pretty good case that they just might have. But, you know, it might just be as simple as it was ceremonial, it was symbolic. Maybe they got, you know, 20 guys to help and lift this axe.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And for whatever reason, that's something that was important to them. There's a lot still, you know, that we may not know just about ancient cultures that existed just because there wasn't a lot of record keeping about them. Do you know what the axes are made of, what metal, because they were believed to be, the Minowans are considered to be a mysterious advanced culture and one of the old. oldest bronze age civilizations in Europe. Right. Yeah, they were very good with sculpting. They used to sculpt little seals, I suppose. They say anyway, those were carved out of like ivory and bone and soft stones.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But the axes themselves, they look bronze to me. Yeah. I mean, just by kind of looking at it from the eye test. But it's a weird one, you know, because maybe we're digging too deep on it. I don't know, you make up your own mind. But when you start to think about this ancient culture that there's barely any record, of and they have these giant axes, you have to ask yourself, at least ask yourself the question, why?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Why were these things created and who was using them? And they even produced sophisticated types of lenses, I'm guessing. Yeah, like glasses? Yeah. So they were. They were ahead of their time. They were very ahead of their time. It's an odd one.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I will admit that. It's kind of hard to wrap your head around that one. But we will fast forward, Karen. Okay. To modern times anyway. modern enough, about 100 years ago. Okay. In 1933, we go to Steeleville, Missouri.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh, Steeleville. All right, we're going to time travel here. Now, there was a little boy named Billy. Little Johnny. That's right. Now, he was hunting for arrowheads as any good boy in Missouri would do in 1933, which, you know, Kansas City Chiefs, their thing on the logo is an arrowhead. So that's their thing.
Starting point is 00:25:42 It's fun to find those. I'm from Michigan, and we had all kinds of different. Indian tribes. I went to Chippewa Middle School and, you know, the central Michigan's there, the Chippewas. I mean, there, there were a lot of arrowheads up there. Sure. Huge, you know, a huge history of Indians in that area, so American Indians. So, you know, you go around and try to find some of these relics. That's what he was doing. Now, he was in a place called Puckett's Cave. Okay. Now, at that time, he reached something white in a hole. He was, you know, looking for these arrowheads, thought maybe that's an
Starting point is 00:26:13 arrowhead. In the Merrimack River Bluff. Oh, yes, I know it well. You do. And when he reached into that hole in the ground, he came up with a handful of human bones. Huh. Or so the story goes. Now, of course, you kind of get scared when he come up with human bones.
Starting point is 00:26:32 So Billy is 16 years old at the time. Is this in the Ozarks? It is. Okay. And the Ozarks in Missouri. So what he did, according to his account and his family, as the generations went on, he put it down, dashed home, told everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:46 gathered some courage and some reinforcements, then came back and they dug up the site where he found the bones. Don't you have to call police when you find bones, when you dig up bones? 1933 things might have been different in the Ozarks. By the way, the oldest person on the U.S. died. She was like, what, 114 shows? She would have been alive during this time. Maybe she was there.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Maybe. Maybe was her husband. Maybe. We could have called her and ask her. She remembered the story. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee, Brooke Linnon, and Kylie. But what if people haven't heard about your brand?
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Starting point is 00:28:07 Go to Shopify.com slash UAP. That's Shopify.com slash UAP. So when they went to go dig everything up, they were going through all this ash and limestone debris. Because there have been a lot, in the past, a lot of different Indian relics found in those areas, of course, right? I mean, they lived there. They had societies and cultures there. Now, when they dug, it turned up the complete skeleton of what they say was an eight-foot giant. What?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Eight feet. So they put it together and it was eight feet? Well, pretty much, I mean, it was essentially a complete skeleton. I mean, it stretched out like an enormous length. Yeah, stretching out eight feet long. And, you know, it might have been missing some pieces here and there, but they put it together. And they brought it to, I guess, the town doctor, this doctor named R.C. Parker. And they stretched out the skeleton to its enormous size in the hallway of his office and made it like an exhibition for people to come and see.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Look at the giant skeleton. Everybody come see. So there are accounts of people who lived at that time who told their kids and their grandkids, I saw the skeleton at Dr. Parker's office in 1933. So we actually have the picture of the skeleton, and they took a picture that was in the newspaper at the time. And it's a picture of that clipping from the newspaper that's on the blog right now, on 850WFTL.com on the UAP blog,
Starting point is 00:29:31 where someone is laying next to the eight-foot skeleton so you can see the size comparison and the difference. It's pretty wild. Well, this isn't so, and I may not be an alien thing, because there's something called gigantism. Sure. It's a condition. It's an abnormal growth due to an excess of growth hormone, the GH hormone and childhood.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And some people do grow to be like eight feet tall. But in this case, that it was so old. Right. You know, you're not going to get growth hormone injections anywhere. I don't know. But here's what they had to say about the giant skeleton in Dr. Parker's office. Giant Hunters Jim Vieira and James. Clary have just uncovered an astounding clue in their investigation into an eight-foot giant.
Starting point is 00:30:16 That's a photograph. That's wild. Reportedly unearthed in a cave in the 1930s. That's amazing. On it is a picture of a six-foot guy next to the eight-foot skeleton in Doc Parker's office. I can say without reservation, that is a photo. And that, that's a game changer in my book. The skeleton, a six-foot guy next to it,
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's like, what can you say to it? Here you go. The skeleton is now on exhibition at the office of Dr. R.C. Parker. We see the name of Doc Parker. Dr. Parker is in receipt of a letter from Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. And requested that he shipped the skeleton to Washington for study by the experts as they think it is that of a giant
Starting point is 00:31:06 of prehistoric times. Holy s'm wow. The path leads to the Smithsonian. I hope the Smithsonian paid for the shipping. It's a good point. It's going to be kind of heavy. Can you imagine? It's a big package there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 The mailman is like, what? But that's where the story kind of takes a strange turn. That was a show from the History Channel. They actually made a little series out of the hunt for the truth behind this skeleton in the Ozarks. And what they end up finding basically was it was shipped to the Smithsonian. and the Smithsonian reached out to Dr. Parker and said, hey, you might have found something here. Can you send it over to us? Because, like they said in the clip, it might be a prehistoric descent.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And if that's the case, this might have even predated the American Indians. Wow. Okay. So you're talking about a possible thing here where you have this eight-foot skeleton. You can refer to it as a giant because eight feet is taller than anybody who's around right now. You know, you have basketball players like Yao Ming who were 7-5. Andre the Giant who was, you know, I think about that same height, 7-4 or 7-5, who was, you know, of course, a famous wrestler.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's just so you have people, of course, who were over seven feet tall. There's no doubt about that. And giganticism is a real condition. Andre the Giant had that. That's what made him so huge. All his limbs, his hands, there's a famous picture of Andre the Giant holding a beer can, and it looks like a toy. I mean, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It looks like a roll of toilet paper. Can I tell a side story about Andre the Giant real quick? Sure, go ahead. And then I can get back into this. Because this is probably my most favorite story about anything ever of all time. Oh, my. Andre the Giant, if you're not familiar, was a famous wrestler with WWE. At that time, it was WWF in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And he went all around the world, wrestled in Mexico and Japan and everything like that. But mainly WWF was his thing. Hulk Hogan and all those guys. So there was one time they were on the road, and he was so big that he would have trouble getting into cars and airplanes and things like that. Sure, I can imagine. But the thing about Andre the Giant was he was a notorious drinker And he could outdrink anybody He would drink bottles of wine at a time because of his size
Starting point is 00:33:15 And he was from France so he liked his wine So one night he just got so drunk He was French? He was French, yes, Andre the Giant That's right So one night he got so drunk And they get back to the hotel, Tolk Hogan, some of those old-time wrestlers And they're like, what do we do with Andre?
Starting point is 00:33:33 He just passed out in the lobby No. He's just, he's asleep. He's passed out in the lobby. Who's going to carry him to the room? So they said, let's just put a blanket over him. So they put a blanket over him. They come out the next morning from their rooms.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They come out into the lobby and people are sitting on him. Oh, my gosh. Because they thought he was a sofa. It's so big. And they couldn't see the rest of his body because he's covered in this blanket. They thought he was a couch that they could lounge on in the lobby. Overstuffed. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Oh, my God, it's at rooms to go. That's right. It's a little side story there. It's a Cindy Crawford edition. Sorry to get sidetrack, but it is such a good story. I love that story. But getting back to this eight-foot giant that was found in the Ozarks, so that's kind of where the story takes a strange turn. That's where it took a strange turn was that the Smithsonian did ask for it.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And then we lose track of it from there. And, of course, the Smithsonian denies that this ever happened. Oh. And they can't find any answers as to why or where this thing went. And who has it now? Where is it in the Smithsonian? There's photographs of it, though, at Dr. Parker's office. All we have are the photographs, and that photograph is on our blog,
Starting point is 00:34:46 an 850wFTL.com. Search UAP on the podcast, and you'll find that page. So it's a strange one. I don't know. But they say this thing could range, Karen, from either 100 years old to 2,000 years old. They never got a definitive answer. But if that's the case, you're talking of a prehistoric giant skeleton that was In America.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Maybe it was a Bigfoot. Maybe. Because you also have to kind of ask the question, what about Bigfoot? Yeah. And other variations like the skunk ape, like the Yeti. Yeah. Things like that. Are they connected somehow?
Starting point is 00:35:21 The abominable snowman. Yes. And it's just, look, I'm not saying that it is. Okay. You make up your own mind. I'm just asking the question. Are the legends of Bigfoot and, you know, the Yeti, skunking. here in South Florida, because that's where
Starting point is 00:35:37 we're located here in South Florida. And they were reports of what they call the skunk ape in the Everglades. And it's essentially Bigfoot in the Everglades. And boy, does it stink. Stinks! Which is why they call it the skunk ape. Very smelly, according to all the accounts of people who have come in contact anyway. But could they be connected
Starting point is 00:35:53 to these ancient giants somehow? Like, was Goliath a Bigfoot? Maybe. I think it all comes down to whether or not they were hair suit. Well, they were hairy. Yeah, that's the thing. There's accounts of these giant hairy men from ancient times. And what is the deal with these giant hairy men?
Starting point is 00:36:09 All cultures across the world, whether it's South America, Native American Indians, Europe, Russia, China, Tibet, Australia. All these nations have legends and tales of giant hairy wild men. Now, you know, people say, well, legends are just legends. But when you have cultures and countries separated by oceans, all talking about very similar things, to me, this does suggest that in times past, these things were very, very prevalent and widespread across the world. Giant Harry Wildman. That's right. It's a new band.
Starting point is 00:36:44 It does sound like a good band. Love it. Like a ska band. But it sounds like, again, and that's a good point there, is, and this is something we've brought up on our own when it comes to different accounts of ancient aliens, whether it was an account from, you know, people in Mexico, whether it was an account from people in Japan, whether it was someone in, you know, the Middle East. Look, Easter Island, those huge statues.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Right, exactly. So you have these different cultures around the world at times where at least we think there was no way of communicating, having the same reports of the same type of beings. And it's the same thing when it comes to these giant humans who were very hairy. So was that some type of Bigfoot, some type of giant alien that relates to what we're talking about? these are all questions that are very interesting. It must be asked, especially was Goliath a Bigfoot?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Whether or not Goliath is a Bigfoot, they definitely sit within the same category of a creature which clearly is not human, but clearly is also present here, and which is taller than our ancestors were. My question is, what is the truth behind this particular story? And it is possible, as some scholars have suggested, that Goliath might have been an extraterrestrial. That he was a type of giant, a human abomination, a half-alien, half-human creature, so horrendous that David took it upon himself to vanquish that beast. George Osuclos, love him from ancient aliens. He's always got the angle there. And the hair sticking straight up.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Oh, yes, it's classic. But I don't know if I'm ready to make that leap. But again, I guess the question can and should be asked if we're presenting all this evidence about giants and all the accounts of giants. I think the most damning thing for me was that account from numbers where they talked about the scouts going out to Canaan to look for land for the Israelites. And they come back talking about the Nephilim being there and devouring the inhabitants. So I guess it's anything's possible. Anything's possible. I'm surprised that, you know, men like Constantine or whoever, the King James version of the Bible,
Starting point is 00:38:59 they allowed those books to be in there because of these references. It's interesting. You know, because they threw out a bunch of different books to make sure that we didn't have, like, weird stuff going on. So how much of this is real? How much of it's real? It's still in the Bible. Yeah. It makes you wonder, we're a giant's real.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Maybe there's still giants out there. Is Bigfoot related to some of those ancient giants? And he's still out there. I don't know. These are all questions that hopefully make up your mind. Even in Rudolph the rain, red nose reindeer, you had the bumble that doesn't bounce. Yes, that's right. Bumbles can't swim.
Starting point is 00:39:33 But they bounce. They bounce. That's right. It's so weird. References everywhere. Well, on that no, Karen, I should say before we wrap up, that we have an exciting announcement, aside from our new Twitter page where you can follow the show at UAP Podcast 850. 850. UAP.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Well, the P has a dual purpose. I'm so sorry. Yes. So you have the UAP, but then you have podcast, but the P serves the both. Got it. P and the podcast. So UA Podcast 850 is where you can follow the show on Twitter. We'll have the show posted there and things like that so you can follow along every week.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Please feel free. Leave us, comments, leave us feedback of things that you heard. Maybe you have your own theories about some of the things that we've talked about. Good or bad. You know, we'll take it. It's okay. We're big boys and girls. And then how about this?
Starting point is 00:40:20 We're going to have a new feature. Yes. starting next week. Because you just don't get enough of us once a week. On every Tuesday, you can expect to see the drop of the UAP alien updates. Because you know what? To this day, people are seeing aliens walking around the Earth. And so we're going to give you the latest updates of the latest spottings.
Starting point is 00:40:41 That's right. Of UAPs. Right. So, you know, we always, we're kind of take some famous stories, some not so famous stories, but it can be from different time frames. But on this, we're just going to be kind of a quick. thing give you the update on the latest alien sightings around the world something kind of quick and interesting for you to consume to keep you up to date on some of the things that people are
Starting point is 00:41:02 seeing out there right now and if you see something weird let us know and we can put it in the shout out yeah so other than that karen how about next week what do you want to talk about i don't know what you got bob lazar oh bob lazar that's right i'm going to call him and see if we can get him on the on the phone because this guy is like he's the alien aficionado well the story go, at least according to him, that he worked at Area 51. So we're going to kind of get back on track, so to speak, but we're going to go down more of the traditional path next time, next week on UAP. When we talk about the accounts of Bob Lazar and what he saw, what he says he saw while
Starting point is 00:41:40 working in Area 51, it's pretty wild stuff. There's some famous stories about him and the things that he saw, and we're going to cover it all next weekend. Hopefully maybe, if we can reach out to him. Yeah, I'd love to be able to talk to him. Maybe we'll be able to talk to him. So find out with us if he's going to be on us next week for episode 29 of UAP. But until that, make sure you check out UAP, Apple, Spotify, 850wFTL.com.
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