UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 30: Whistleblower's part 2 - Canadian and Israeli Revelations
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Welcome. It's episode 30 of UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast.
Stephen Deiner right here, Karen Curtis over there.
And welcome back to anybody who has listened and consumed the show before.
This is your first time.
Well, welcome in.
It's going to be a fun ride.
It will be, yes, I agree.
We're talking about whistleblowers, and they basically whistle-tune.
They do.
And if you missed part one, because this is part two.
Part one was all about Bob Lazar.
We went in depth with him and his claims about when he allegedly worked in the Area 51 part of the, you know, that part of the world there in New Mexico.
But he said it was a secret base called S4, which was next to Area 51.
So we went in depth on his claims.
So that was part one of whistleblowers today.
I mean, yeah, is he really, is he like an MIT Caltech?
grad who reverse engineered spacecraft from aliens or is he a quack?
Yeah, yeah, and if you missed it, that's fine.
You can listen to this one and go back to part one.
That's right.
You're not going to, you know, you're not going to miss anything by listening to Part 2 first.
It's not like you're binging on Netflix and you got to, you know, have a recap.
Exactly.
This is just another, it's part two about two different people that we're going to touch on here
today who happened to be high-ranking government officials from two different countries.
So pretty intriguing stuff that they brought up in their time.
testimonies. But before we get into that, Karen, do you have a factoid for us?
I do. Space is completely silent.
That's true. Which flies in the face of Stephen's headline for our last episode.
That's right. What's making that noise in space?
It was, and it's funny you say that. And I'm glad you bring that up because just a couple
days ago, we debuted the UAP Alien Update. And like you said, you know, it's the first one.
It just came out on Tuesday. It's kind of like a quick hit.
type thing. It's not what we do here
on the podcast where we go in depth
on a few different subjects
or a few different topics.
On the update, we just
quickly hit, it's under 10 minutes
on basically the latest
news in the alien world.
Sightings, you know, maybe
different reports that have come out. Discoveries.
Yeah, exactly. And so one of the discoveries
on the first update, we talked about
the discovery of the odd
strange radio
signal that's coming from space.
It's radio bursts, what, 18 minutes?
It's every 18 minutes and 18 seconds, and it's 4,000 light years away.
It's being picked up.
Scientists are not exactly sure what it is.
They have their theories, but that's in the UAP Alien Update.
If you want to listen to that.
They just came out a few days ago.
But on the headline, on the title, I wrote,
What's Making That Noise in Space?
That's the title of that update.
Nothing, because there's a noise in space.
But I kept it on purpose.
Okay.
And it's funny to say that because as I wrote it,
I thought to myself,
But there is no noise in space.
So this is kind of like an oxymoron.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to keep it because it's kind of an attention getter, right?
You think to yourself, but there is no noise in space.
So what can be making that noise if there's no noise?
Well, it makes noise once it gets here to Earth.
Exactly.
Because space is a vacuum.
I mean, no one can hear you scream in space, Stephen.
So we kind of explain that in the update.
It's the noise we're hearing here and not the noise we're hearing in space.
But I thought I'd have some fun with the title.
It's because sound waves cannot travel through a vacuum.
Thank you for that.
You're welcome. I didn't mean to, you know, like, you're wrong.
No, no, no. Okay, so back to whistleblowers. Last week we did Bob Lazard. This week we're talking about Paul Hellyer.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, he's our first guy we're going to talk about here today. He's still alive. He's born in 1923.
He was. Oh, no, he died. He did die, yeah. Whoops. Remember that guy, Hellyer?
Yeah, he's dead. So he died.
Canadian engineer, bless his heart. Yeah, rest in peace. Paul Hillier. Actually passed away back.
on August 8th of last year in 2021.
Canadian engineer, politician, a writer,
former defense minister.
Hello.
Which is the one you might want to highlight
in the description that we gave.
He was the longest serving member
of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada
at the time of his death.
So career politician in Canada.
When the Queen goes to Canada, he's privy to her?
I suppose.
I see.
Yes.
So basically the reason why I wanted to touch on him today,
he is the highest ranking official ever in the world from a major developed country to go on record to say, yes, aliens are real.
And he has given different descriptions and everything like that, which we're going to get into.
But in early September 2005, he made the headlines, Karen, because that is when he publicly announced that he believed in the existence of UFOs.
Right.
So on September 25th of 2005, he was invited as a speaker at the exo-politics conference in Toronto.
And that's where he made the bombshell announcement where he told the audience that he had seen a UFO one night with his late wife and then some friends.
Is she the late wife because she got taken?
No, just natural causes.
He said that although he had discounted the experience at the time, that he kept an open mind to it.
Yeah.
Good.
So he went on to say a lot of different things in that conference.
You talked about basically the disclosure within the Canadian government that they don't want to reveal, which was the different species of aliens, how long they've been here, the work that they've done with major governments, such as our own United States governments.
I mean, it was really earth-shaking stuff that, of course, tried, you know, the governments and the media tried to bury.
because it wasn't like it is now, you know, 16, 17 years later now, we're in 2022.
We talk more freely about the existence and the possibilities of UFOs and aliens and other worlds after the, you know, government disclosed their report back in the summer of 2021.
So, yeah, it's almost like we followed Canada.
You know, they may, he made this, this announcement in 2005 and then we followed Canada just like, just like,
last year and said, hey, yeah, it's possible.
Yeah, I mean, and here's the thing with Paul Heller.
There's a number of sightings. Could be something.
He basically wasn't involved that much in the government anymore.
So when he came out, it was like, holy cow, this guy is a former defense minister.
Like, that's a pretty big title.
You know, in comparison to Bob Lazare, Bob Lazar was basically just an employee.
He's a scientist, right?
But he was an employee.
He was a worker drone.
They brought him in there because he was super smart, according to historian.
anyway, to reverse engineer alien technology at the S4 base near Area 51.
So when you have someone like Bob Lazar, who is just a guy, really, is more easy for people to say,
I don't believe him because he's just this guy.
What if he's trying to, you know, get credibility or make money off of it, which, by the way,
Bob Lazare never has made any money off of it.
He doesn't even really like to do any interviews about it.
But the story is out there.
There's books and there's documentaries about him and things like that in his story,
which is why we did him for part one last week.
But when you talk about someone like Paul Hellier, there's more weight, I guess you could say.
Yeah, I think you're right.
There's more credence, there's more credibility behind his claims because you're talking about a guy who worked as a career politician.
Think of it in terms of one of our own senators.
Okay, think of a career politician.
Just pick one.
Mitch McConnell, a Lindsey Graham or, you know, Nancy Pelosi.
Anybody like that.
Of Arizona that said he saw.
That's right.
when we talked about the lights over Phoenix.
So if you think about any of those big, you know, names in Congress or in the Senate
in the United States government.
It's comparable to that.
Yeah, it would be like if, you know, one of those names came out and said what Paul
Hellier was saying, which was, yes, aliens exist.
Yes, they've been to Earth.
Yes, they're on Earth.
And there are currently different species of aliens living on Earth in disguise and
working with governments of the world, which is what he said.
And he said this on RT, which is formerly Russia today.
He's talking to this girl named Sophie.
with an exclamation point.
This is in 2014.
Okay.
So this is the first you're hearing from Hellyer.
He says there's at least four species.
He thought there was two to 12 species of aliens.
And then he goes, no, there's 80.
And they're what we call the Nordic blondes and also the tall whites who were actually
working with the United States Air Force in Nevada.
A couple of their ladies dressed as nuns went in to Las Vegas to shop and they weren't
detected.
and I have a friend who saw one of the men walking along the street
and somebody who would recognize that they were different,
and he did.
So they're those kind, and then there are the short grays, as they're called.
And they're the ones that you see in most of the cartoons.
They have very, very, very slim arms and legs,
and they're very short, just a little over five feet.
And they have a great big torso and a great big,
head and great big brown eyes but there are different species so you have to to
know that they're different species and it's and and know that they're all
different if you saw the short grays you certainly know that there was
something up that you'd never seen before but if you saw one of the Nordic
blondes why you'd probably say oh I wonder if she's from from Denmark or
or somewhere you know but what about their personalities are some of them
nice and some of them mean it's a difficult question to answer because
because they have different agendas.
And maybe all of us on Earth should have the same agenda,
but you couldn't say maybe that Russia and China
and the United States all had the same agenda
at every turn because they don't.
And I would say that nearly all are benign,
they're benevolent, they wanna help us.
There may be one or two species which do not.
And that's one of the things I'm investigating
at the moment is to see who they are
and what they're up to and what their agendas really are.
Yeah, I think he should look into Anderson Cooper.
He's a Nordic. I knew it.
Maybe, maybe.
He has an agenda.
Well, listen, he talks about a lot of the different species that we've mentioned before, right?
I'm going to start looking at people really closely now.
There is a picture that's circulating, and I got to tell you, in the interest of full disclosure,
I was wondering, debating with myself, arguing in my head, should I even bring?
this up. What I'm about to say, should he even bring this up?
Because it's a little silly.
But it's also super strange and
kind of creepy. And I'm going to
bring it up. Okay. Because I'm actually going to
put the picture on the blog,
on the UAP blog, which you can
check out on 850wFTL.com
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And that's a picture of Chloe Kardashian.
Oh, yes, her hand.
It's been going viral now for about a week.
And the reason I bring it up,
the reason it pops into my head,
it kind of fits what Paul Hellier is talking about.
You have different species of aliens,
according to him,
who live in disguise on the earth,
whether it's Nordics,
gray's a little bit harder to live in disguise.
Hey, there's 80 different ones.
You know what?
she doesn't look like the others, the other Kardashians at all.
Maybe Chris got taken up into a ship one night and impregnated.
Listen, anything's possible, especially with that family.
So I don't know.
I wouldn't doubt it.
So the reason, again, the reason I bring that up is because I saw this picture.
If you haven't seen the picture by now, then you can look on the blog on the UAP blog
and 850WFTL.com.
It's Chloe Kardashian's hand.
She was taking this like modeling picture inside of a car and her hand is out.
She's got like this long sleeve thing on.
And her hand is out, like reaching toward the steering wheel.
But when you see her fingers.
Looks like a lizard's hand.
It looks like a lizard hand.
People were comparing it to like chicken feet.
Yes.
So the first thing that pops into my head is, oh my gosh, she's a freaking reptilian.
And she didn't transform all the way back or whatever.
I don't know.
Like, how does that picture get out?
If there's actually something wrong with her hand, maybe she has some type of deformity that she's never disclosed.
I don't know.
But is she one of these.
aliens that I hate to say
because it sounds silly, but is she one of
these reptilian aliens that can disguise
themselves that Paul Hellier
is referring to? They put so many filters
on, like Madonna,
all of the Kardashians put so many filters
on. When you see them in person, they don't
look anything like they do on Instagram.
It's true. That's true. So if that's
the case, why would they leave the hand
that way? Maybe it's the alien filter she
used. I don't know. It's the strangest... Yeah,
it's not really attractive. It's creepy
and people were saying, oh, she's a vampire.
She looks like Nosferatu with her hands.
And so it's really weird.
If you haven't seen the picture, you can make up your own mind.
Maybe she's one of these aliens in disguise that Paul Hellyer is referring to.
I don't know.
It's so interesting.
Hellyer also said he believes the star of Bethlehem was an alien flying saucer.
Because remember the three wise men follow the star?
And see, that part's tough for me.
And again, that might just maybe he's privy to information.
The star of David?
That to me is kind of hard to be as well.
You don't like it when they start messing with aliens in the Bible.
Yeah, because it's a conflict of interest for me, right?
Because I'm Catholic.
The book of Enoch didn't make it into the Bible.
It didn't.
It didn't.
We don't read that one on Sundays.
So, you know, I have said before on the podcast before.
I'm a practicing Catholic.
So it's hard for me to make that leap to cross over and say, oh, well, God's an alien.
Or, you know, the angels are aliens.
Like sometimes they do like on ancient aliens.
They go there.
Noah was an alien.
You know, everybody's an alien.
Everything in the Bible is alien.
So it's harder for me to make that leap.
What I think is that, you know, yes, they existed and they still do exist.
And maybe there was some interventions somewhere and, you know, they didn't know how to explain it in the old books of the Bible.
So I, but when it comes to the star of Bethlehem, that one's a little bit harder.
All right.
I'll leave it alone.
But then he starts talking about the so-called Galactic Federation.
sure did.
And they apparently have ships that go at ridiculous high speeds.
And the aliens who have had visits with U.S. officials.
We did one podcast about President Eisenhower, who reportedly met with, what, Nordics?
Yeah.
I mean, we've talked about this a couple of times.
So that's why you always find, I always love when things tied together from previous podcasts.
There's always a thread of truth.
Yeah, exactly.
And it always comes from different accounts of different time periods.
So you have Eisenhower in the 50s when he met with the Grays and the Nordics over in California and in Palm Springs.
And then you have the story of the Venusian, Valiant Thor, who came to Earth and worked at the Pentagon and met with Nixon when he was vice president and leaders of the world with the Pope to try to get them to subscribe to their way of life, which would bring peace to the world and hunger and sickness.
And they're like, no, we're good.
We like people relying on us.
Well, that's what the Galactic Federation is trying to warn us about.
Right.
Exactly what you're talking about.
And here's Hellier on that topic.
They'll pick out a few individuals and visit them or talk to them or talk to them telepathically or send information to them by channeling.
They have a deal that they won't interfere.
But I think that there's also a loophole if things get bad enough.
that they would make exceptions.
But we shouldn't count on them because they say,
you clean up your act.
You're in charge.
It's your planet.
And if it comes to a dead end,
it will because you let it or made it a dead end.
Because it wasn't necessary.
And you had everything going.
It's one of the best planets in the whole universe.
universe and everybody
covets the fact that it's so good
and you have been destroying it.
There are things you've got to do.
Stop your clear cutting. Stop your fracking.
Stop using fossil fuels
because there are better ways.
So Al Gore and AOC. I believe AOC
is an alien. Maybe. She's got the big
almond dark eyes, right? Yeah, she is.
Maybe she is.
I don't know.
And those are political statements.
We'll leave those to Paul Hellier to make.
So we're just playing what he had to say.
According to him as far as what the aliens might be saying.
They both say stop using fossil fuels.
Yeah.
Maybe AOC's an alien.
I don't know.
There's a lot of aliens that could be in Washington.
Let's just put it that way.
But so going back to some of the things that he said before.
So that's kind of a lot to take in.
Like we're just throwing at you Galactic Federation and aliens coming to Earth and, you know, talking to world leaders.
But this is stuff that he says he had.
information on and actually worked with people who were telling him these things were happening.
So that's why he's such a credible witness to me because he was there. He was involved with this
stuff. Remember we had the sound from Shirley McLean who said the exact same thing. That's true.
That the aliens come down, especially around our nuclear sites. Right. We've talked about that.
To make sure we don't blow ourselves up because it would affect the whole universe. Now some more,
exactly. That's right. And so to me, this is all kind of like corroborating evidence. Yes.
Okay, we've been tying things together now in the past 30 episodes of this podcast.
And some things, more things that tie in, Heller also talks about that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.
Okay.
Most of them coming from other star systems.
There are some living on Venus, Vali and Thor.
Okay, we talked about him that he was at Venusian living inside of Venus.
Right.
Coming from Mars, coming from Saturn's moons.
According to him, they don't think we're good stewards of our planet, which you heard him saying right there.
So he's basically saying that we have to take control and stop doing things that are hurting our planet,
hurting our society, hurting our world, hurting the human race, and saying that, you know,
some of these different alien races don't want to get involved, but they would if they have to.
Could you imagine if that ends up happening?
Yeah, I do.
I can imagine.
I think it's already happening.
Oh, man.
But he also asked his son for the phone number of a general.
Right.
And he called the general, and the general told him something shocking.
You ready?
I think so.
Here it is.
But there have been face-to-face meetings between the United States officials and visitors from other star systems, period.
There you go.
So that, again, lends credence to everything we've talked about when it comes to presidents and aliens, you know, Vali and Thor, all these other stories that we've talked about, you know, meetings with high-ranking officials, aliens working in the Pentagon.
gone or at secret bases alongside scientists.
All of these things that we've talked about, he is...
He just reaffirmed it.
Yeah.
I mean, I hate to use the word confirming because, again, you make up your own mind.
That's what we're all about here.
We give you what the people are saying.
We give you the story.
You make up your own mind.
But according to his account, the generals, the people that he's worked with in government
over the years or did work with over the years, confirm all these things to him.
It's pretty crazy.
Like I said, they're all whistling in the same tune.
Whistleblower, Canadian Defense Minister.
Yeah.
How do you like that?
Yeah.
And, you know, it's kind of interesting how he explains that there are so many different species.
We did a podcast on the different types of aliens.
I didn't know there were 80.
I don't know where he's getting 80 from.
He knows something we don't.
You know, we talked about, what, maybe five or six?
Yes.
And the podcast that we did.
That's what he said.
He thought initially there was two to 12.
But now, that's where we were.
But now 80, that seems like a lot.
That seems like a lot to handle.
But, you know, the universe is awfully large.
so it's possible.
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It seems like a lot to handle, but it made me a lot to take in for Paul Hellier.
But again, we just give you what he said.
We're talking about a former Canadian defense minister here.
This is the stuff that these are his accounts.
love how he says the aliens say that, you know, people covet our planet. They're probably all
out there in space going, man, those humans, they have the best planet in the whole universe
and they're trashing it, dude. These idiots. Yes. Man, what we could do with Earth if we had it.
And maybe that's why they come here. Yeah. Right? Resources. Because it's, it is a beautiful planet. It must
be. I mean, the best in the whole universe. Look at us go. I know. Top 10 planets in the universe.
That's right. Are you done with Paul Hellier, Karen?
I am.
Okay, because I let's go on to our second subject here when it comes to this former Israeli space security chief, which I didn't know they had that in Israel, but I guess it's kind of like our space force.
The former Israeli space security chief who says that aliens exist and that humanity is not ready.
And he also talks about the Galactic Federation.
He's 87.
Is he still alive?
Yeah, I believe he is still alive, actually.
And his, so this is a guy, separate part of the world.
Go ahead and say his name.
I will try.
Different agendas, different politics.
But he mentions the same galactic federation and says that supposedly we've been in contact,
or they've been in contact with Israel and the U.S. for years.
He said Trump was aware of him.
That's right.
That's right.
Because he worked with Trump during Trump's presidency, this secretary.
He says, but they're keeping themselves a secret to prevent hysteria until humanity is ready.
We're okay.
We're ready.
I'm ready personally.
I've been ready.
What's this guy's name?
Yaddeiaronaut?
Well, that's it.
So according to...
Oh, no, that's the reporter.
That's right.
So according to the retired Israeli officer and he's a current professor, his name is
Haim Eshed.
Excuse me.
The answer is yes, these things are real.
But this has been kept a secret because, again, his quote, humanity isn't ready.
So what does he know that we don't about humanity not being ready?
Is that...
Do you think that's true?
I mean, just your own personal opinion, Karen, do you think humanity as...
as a whole isn't ready from what you see.
No, we're ready.
You think so?
Absolutely.
Just based on the popularity of this podcast.
People are ready.
Yes, again, thank you to everybody who's listening.
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We're glad.
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seen.
It's fantastic.
I think if you ask everybody or the average person, do you think that there's other life
in the university?
You'd say, yes.
Do you think it's visited here?
Yes.
Well, it's funny you say that because in recent polls over the evening,
years, if you compare 10 years ago to now, forget 20 or 30 years ago, just go 10 years ago to now.
The amount of people who say, yes, I believe that UFOs exist or there might be aliens has
jumped in big ways over the past, you know, five, 10 years.
It's because they see more things in the news.
That's right.
And it's not being covered up as much.
Here's that reporter, Yudoyd-R-Nod, about talking a little bit about what this Defense Ministry,
space division head had to say. The most shocking ones, the claim made by Professor Chaim Eschat is that
we are not alone in the universe and not only are we not alone. We're not even alone on our own planet.
The claim is that we have been visited by extraterrestrial life who have set up a joint base of
operations with the United States on Mars buried beneath the surface. He also claims that
astronauts from the United States have been to Mars and are working alongside the extraterrestrial
at this Mars base.
This, in addition to the claims of a galactic federation, which, interestingly enough, echo statements made in 2005 by former Canadian defense minister, Paul Helier, about visits by extraterrestrials to Earth as well.
Very shocking statements, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
How do you like that for a tie-in, huh?
Hellier.
Look at that.
Yeah, that was brilliant.
So you're talking about two, again, two different guys, different politics, different countries.
Just wrapped up the whole podcast right there.
That's it.
And they make the same claim about this Galactic Federation and aliens working with humans throughout the years.
Now that Mars one is different.
Hellier didn't have that.
But does that sound familiar, Karen?
Yeah, because we talked about this.
And, you know, we talked about the moon, possibly being another base.
But we are traveling to Mars.
Everyone wants to go to Mars.
I think once upon a time, there was life on Mars.
and then something nuclear happened.
Possible.
Maybe Mars was another world that had an atmosphere and everything,
and then everyone had to move to Earth.
Now we're looking at going back to Mars.
Maybe.
And maybe there is a base in the middle of Mars.
I don't know.
And you go back just to what we've done and what we've talked about.
I think it's episode 19 and 20.
We talked about Andrew Basiago,
who was an alleged time traveler.
Right.
And teleported.
He went there.
Secret programs to teleport to Mars.
With Barack Obama.
That's right.
That's what he class.
Look, don't, don't call us crazy.
That's what he claims.
You go listen to yourself.
I think it was Barry.
Yeah, he went by a different name.
I think it was Barry.
So Toro.
Right.
Yeah, back then, yeah.
But he, you know, he claims, Andrew Bacchago, claim that, that he's been to Mars as part of a secret program.
Randy Kramer, we talked about him.
I think it was episode 20, where he was this intergalactic soldier who worked on Mars for 15 years.
So you tie in these claims of people who might sound like crackpots.
And you tie them in to high-ranking, defecating.
Defense Ministry, people in Canada and in Israel who talked about this stuff years apart.
So just to put more credence to our friend here, Mr. Ashed from Israel, he was the head of Israel's
space program for nearly 30 years, and he was a three-time recipient of the Israel Security Award.
So this guy ain't no slouts.
That's right.
He's a highly respected Israeli official, and he's the one coming out matching claims
from Paul Hellier saying, yeah, this stuff is real.
They've been here.
They are here.
They work together, working together different planets.
And there's a galactic federation that works in cahoots to make sure I guess everything's run smoothly.
And we get all technology, I suppose.
It's wild.
Yeah, I think they're imparting wisdom on us slowly, but surely as we advance and become more technologically advanced.
Maybe.
You know, I think they're helping us out in that department.
And you might be wondering, Karen, why.
now, right, for somebody like this. Well, he's 87 years old, right? She's a former head, like
who said, is the Defense Ministry's Space Division. And he also gave further descriptions about
exactly what sort of agreements have been made between the aliens and the United States,
specifically. Now, he's talked about, they wish to research and understand, quote,
the fabric of the universe. Oh, I love it. And he said the cooperation includes a secret underground
base on Mars, where the American and alien representatives work together, which we heard
talk about there or the report it talked about. And we did mention as well that he worked with
former President Trump on these projects. He says that Trump is aware of these things.
You know, talk about the fabric of the universe. Of course, you know, you have Einstein describing
gravity is like a fabric, you know, that it bends around very heavy objects. And then we're
now discovering dark energy and dark matter. Right. We don't know what it is, but it's,
actually the fabric of the universe.
Right. Maybe that's it.
It's some pretty wild stuff.
Now, he also says in case you're wondering, he said that Trump was actually on the verge
of disclosing this, all of this in the alien's existence.
However, the Galactic Federation, these aren't my words.
These are the words from Eshed.
Change the election.
No, no, not that, that Eshed is saying here because it sounds, it just sounds crazy,
but this is what he says.
The Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so,
saying that they wish to prevent mass hysteria
since they felt, again, humanity needed to evolve
and reach a stage where we will understand
what space and spaceships are.
Now, does that sound familiar to you?
Think about, think back to our episodes
about Edgar Casey.
Yes.
And Edgar Casey talks about needing to reach this sense of enlightenment,
right?
Before we could fully understand and embrace
what the universe is all about.
But I can see of any of the presidents
how Trump would like to be the one to blow the lid off.
The aliens are huge.
Now, again, he says as for why he's chosen to do this now,
because again, you're talking about a guy who worked as the head of the space division in Israel for over 30 years,
has all these accolades and awards, all this respect.
So why would he come out and risk, you know, selling his name like this?
Well, he says, basically, he's an old man.
Right.
And he feels like.
Why not?
Why not now?
Because he sees the way that things are changing
in the academic landscape. Things are being talked about.
These ideas are being accepted more.
I like his quote. If I had come up
with what I'm saying today, five years ago,
I would have been hospitalized.
Right, exactly. So the landscape has changed, right?
Which is why we even started this podcast.
That's right. Five years ago, we wouldn't have done this.
We would have thought, we don't want people thinking we're crazy.
But it's now is the time. People are talking about it more.
It's being more accepted as possibility
that these things are true.
Yeah, he says he's respected in universities abroad where the trend is changing.
And he said, this is his quote, I have nothing to lose.
I've received my degrees and awards.
I'm respected in universities abroad where the trend, like you said, is also changing.
So it's pretty intriguing, isn't it?
Where you have matched this up with Bob Lazar in part one to our true high-ranking government officials here in part two of our whistleblower series.
It kind of makes you wonder, hell, we might have a galactic federal.
out there we might be working on Mars with aliens.
Yeah, why not?
What the heck is going on?
Hey, we're not telling you this is true or just giving you the information.
Do with it what you will.
Makes your wonder, huh?
It does.
You know, so you know what else might make you wonder, Karen?
What?
Next week.
Yes.
Hot spots, baby.
Hot spots when we move on in our UAP podcast here.
I think you're interested in Japan and I'm interested in Chile
because Chile has a lot of alien sightings and stories.
about it because it's so vast.
Yeah.
It's got deserts, and then it's got fjords and mountains and lakes and stuff,
and there's all kinds of different places for aliens to hide, or so they say, in Chile.
Yeah.
So there's going to be some pretty intriguing things we uncover about Chile next week, Japan as well,
and some lesser-known hotspots that I think aren't very talked about or aren't talked about very often.
So we're going to cover all of the talk about hot spots.
next time on UAP.
Love it.
Some really good stories coming up on those.
I'm telling you right now because I know from my notes,
my extensive notes that I took over the past 10 years,
just in the back of my head,
we got some good ones next week on hotspots.
Yeah, and before that, we will drop also our alien update.
I'm going to look at alien planets.
It may look nothing like Earth and other breaking alien news.
That's right.
So keep an eye out for that on Tuesday of next week.
But until then, make sure to visit $850.
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You just search the podcast section.
You can see everything that we've talked about in the past,
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And you can go back and listen to previous episodes, if you like.
Please do.
Enjoy.
And again, thank you for enjoying you.
Thank you for listening.
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So until next time on UAP, Karen Curtis there.
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