UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 37: Alien Origins - Are We The Aliens?

Episode Date: April 7, 2022

Have you ever considered why a highly advanced civilization would travel lightyears across space only to interact with a lower life form like us? Well, maybe it's not a different lifeform at all. Maybe it's a future version of ourselves. Diener and Karen look at new theories that might tie this whole life on other planets mystery together...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm sorry we made you wait so long for this new episode, but I feel like it's going to be worth it. And we'll see, Karen, if you agree. So, hi, Karen. How are you? I am well. How are you? I'm doing very well. Oh, my God.

There's so much UFO-UAP stuff going on right now. It's a hotbed of activity. You're so right. It is like in the mainstream at this moment. And we, again, you know, we said, oh, we didn't plan it that way, but for real. I mean, we did not plan to take like an extra week. Some things, you know, are scheduling conflicts, if you will. So we ended up having to take an extra week before episode 37 came out here.

And in between that, some huge news dropped when it comes to, before we get into today's episode, which is alien origins. We're going to maybe blow you. It's going to be one of two things. We're either going to blow your mind or you're going to look at your phone or your radio or website or however you're listening and you're going to think, what are these two cooks talking about? Because we're all related. We're related to the aliens, our family trees.

It's alien ancestry.com. It's all very theoretical today. But it's very interesting. So we're going to get into that. But before we do, like we said, some mainstream news about aliens, UFOs, UAP, the phenomenon that hit the wire just within the past day or two. Yeah. 1,500 pages of UFO-related research has... just been declassified. It was per a FOIA request, Freedom of Information Act. The cache of documents

includes reports on the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans, studies on advanced technology such as invisibility cloaks. Hello, Harry Potter. And plans for deep space exploration and colonization. There was one guy last night on Fox who was talking about his experience with the UFO and how his vision is screwed up. It gave him. headaches. He had radiation burns. There's apparently, and it's not because there are enemies or it's anything malicious, it's just, it's their technology. That's right. And it's before we have a couple more notes on this, but I should say this

is actually the factoid. So our factoid today is really, this isn't even the real part. Right. I mean, this is, this is the news, but it's also kind of acting as the factoid, because you know we always start off with a factoid. But, you know, what they're reporting is, is all these declassified documents, like you said, Karen, talking about radiation burns, unaccounted for pregnancies. Right. What? What?

What? I mean, and there's a lot of stories of this stuff. Maybe we'll have to do a future episode on abduction-related effects. Right. That, you know, long-lasting effects, because there are a lot of stories of these, you know, unaccounted for pregnancies, radiation burns and lost time. Brain. Dane bramage.

Nerve damage. heart palpitations, headaches, anomalous vehicle encounters. They're all related to those. So as you brilliantly, when we were trying to come up with a name for our podcast, you've thought of UAP and now is becoming more and more mainstream. That's what they're called now is UAP. Yeah, that's kind of like the official government name because they want this true way from UFO because of all the negative connotations that UFO brings in people's minds.

They think of, oh, that's crazy conspiracy, tinfoil, hat stuff, UFOs. No. So they want unidentified aerial phenomenon, but of course, ours is unidentified. If I Alien Podcast as you have come to know it. So the report describes 42 cases from medical files in 300 unpublished, 300. Wow. Unpublished cases where human sustained injuries after alleged encounters with, as they put it, anomalous vehicles, which include UFOs.

Now, in some cases, people showed burn injuries or other conditions related to what you would see from electromagnetic radiation. And the report goes on to say this again, when I see every. Remember, report from the government. Yeah, it's from the Pentagon. And this isn't like it was inflicted on them, like it was a malicious act. Right. It's just happened to.

It's an after effect. Happen, yeah. I mean, think about it in the way of, you know, if you had never seen, say, a burning stove before, you're like, ooh, what is this shiny red thing? And you touch it. Oh, boy. And your hands get burned. Of course. So it's kind of the same thing.

With the alien technology, we don't know what it is. You've never stood in front of a jet. You didn't know what a jet plane was and you stood right in front of the engine, got sucked into it. Curiosity killed the cat. So some of the people appear to be to have infected by what they call energy-related propulsion systems. Oh, dear. The report also noted cases of, like you said, Karen, brain damage, nerve, or you said Dane Bramage, nerve damage, heart palpitations and the headaches. I have all that.

All related to this stuff. So, I mean, this is just. I've lost time. I've got it all. You do. These are serious. I have heart palpitations right now. Yeah.

These are serious medical conditions that have been now been officially declassified. From the Pentagon relating to anomalous activity, as they put it, relating to UAP, the UFO phenomenon. This is wild stuff. It is. They can't explain it. They're saying it's happened, but they can't, they won't, or they can't say how. And it's coming from the government, not us.

Right. So we're going to dig into this a lot more, I think, in a future episode, because it's, man, it's very revealing. I don't know about the. It's a big moment. It's a big moment. The pregnancies, what did they give birth to? Boy, I don't know.

be. It's this a really, really big moment in the UFO, UAP community. So again, we'll dig into all this, I think, in a future episode. But today is all about alien origins, Karen. Because one of the biggest questions we always ask throughout society is, are we alone? Right. I highly doubt it. What's the meaning of life? All of these things. Now, we've explored many theories. What's the meaning of life? Oh, God. That's a whole different show. There's another rabbit home. Oh, boy. Oh, so we've talked about all the theories and all the topics during our time doing this podcast and all the episodes that, you know, our listeners have heard in the past.

But one theory that could throw a wrench into everything we've ever discussed is, what if we are the aliens? We are the aliens. What? Mind blown. So now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and act like that this is the first time that anybody's ever come up with this theory. But it's something that, you know, Karen and I have kind of discussed, and we've touched on it, right?

We've touched on it as part of an idea in other episodes when we discuss different stories and topics that we go over during the podcast. But when you start really thinking about it, because now, think of it this way, there are many ways to look at this theory. And I think this point right here, let's just start here, this point right here, is a good place to start. Why would aliens go to so much trouble to travel so far across the universe to come and abduct just a handful of random earthlings?

Is Earth special to them? Have we been targeted? Or is every alleged alien encounter in history simply the result of random chance? These problems, though, are eliminated if we consider for a second that flying saucers aren't far off spacecraft, but that their time machines instead. Filled not with otherworldly creatures, but with humans from the future, who we might reasonably assume would know that the Earth is here. All right, now you're bending spoons with your mind.

I think Elon Musk is an alien. I wouldn't put it past them. Because, look, I mean, or he's had contact with aliens. Because he is Uber interested in climate change. He's trying to get, you know, space vehicles to Mars. He knows something. Well, he's a visionary. And that's the type of people that aliens are attracted to, like the Teslas, the Einstein's, those types of things.

Da Vinci. I mean, there's talk of, I mean, there's all kinds of theories that those people we just mentioned had contact with aliens and were given knowledge by, you know, otherworldly beings or are the otherworldly beings because I think as you so eloquently put Karen alien ancestry.com maybe that's a new I think we need to do that but you know think about it so Einstein came up with you know equals MC squared he realized that energy and matter were the same thing you know the same amount of matter can have different amounts of energy and so it represents different states of matter but you have entangled particles so like you have a particle here and a particle that's billions of light years away and they have

react in the same way. It's just the weirdest thing that happens. So I think it's possible that you could have aliens who are in the future come back to the past or, you know, time doesn't really exist the way we see it. And exactly. And I think, and we've

spoken about that before on Edgar Casey. We said last time on the last episode, you might want to listen to Edgar Casey's Part 1 and 2 because it kind of has the same type of field to it, very theoretical, very deep, those two episodes. And Agri Casey talked about how time is, I just sounds kind of deep here, but it's a construct. And the way that's space time. Space time. And we look at time as linear. Whereas God, God's time is different than our timing. And God doesn't

think, oh, well, last year, I answered your prayer on this subject. No, no. It's all kind of interconnected and it's all happening at once. It's like living in Florida when you have no seasons and so you can't recall when something happened. If you're from the north, you're like, oh, that happened in the fall. It's always 80 degrees. By the way, back to the factoid, they did say that there were also spirits and kind of like ghostly images that were seen too in relation to the alien abductions. So I don't know if that has anything to do with what we're talking about right now.

It could be because the point that we're making, I think the point that you can even come to yourself when you've heard that first clip. Is it us? Are we time travelers? Is it humans from the very distant future who are coming back in time to say, you know, connect with humans? Warn us about stuff. When you think about it, here's a perfect example, okay? The Soulway Firth Spaceman.

Think about something like that, which we've talked about in depth in previous episode. I think it was episode seven actually where we talked about the Soulway for the Space Man. And think about how he looked. It will have his picture up on the blog, 850WFTL.com on the UAP blog. If you go to the podcast, you'll see the UAP page right there where all of our past episodes are. If you ever want to catch up or look at what we've posted before in relation to different episodes. And they really are, and unintentionally. I know we say that.

In the same way that we seem to be connected with aliens. Right. Our episodes are connected. Isn't that strange? There's a common thread. And you'll see what we're talking about. If you've never seen the Soulifer with Spaceman photo before, I'll describe it to you, quickly, he looks like a human being and you'll hear it here.

It kind of explains it just as a reminder. Photo at the heart of this mystery was taken at Bergmarsh in the UK on May 23rd, 1964. A shot of Jim Templeton's daughter, it might have been a totally ordinary image, except it wasn't. When it was published in the local press, the astronaut figure which appears in the background was swiftly nicknamed the Solway Spaceman after the nearby Solway Firth. when it was then reprinted in newspapers all over the world, global interest in the apparently unexplained spaceman quickly grew.

Was it a hoax, a trick of the light, or something else? So the guy's name is Templeton, and he took three photos of his daughter, Elizabeth, and she was picking flowers, like in a field, right? And the first picture came out, then the middle picture, and then the last picture. But it was the middle picture that showed a space, a guy in a space suit in the background behind his daughter. Right. And he insists he did not see the figure until after the photos were developed, and analysts at Kodak confirmed the photo was genuine.

It is genuine. And Kodak actually, and this happened, I believe, in 1964, and Kodak actually put out a challenge to people if they could explain what it was, you would get free film for a life for a year. I'm sorry. So think about this, how long ago it was, people were still buying film. And it wasn't a Polaroid. It was film and a camera. Right. So he didn't notice it until he went to go and develop it. And he said, what is this? Hey, guys, so before we get back into the conversation, I just want to talk about something that affects all of us.

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What is this figure, this human being looking figure? But it also looked like something else. It kind of looks like an alien. And you can't explain it, but it looks like a human figure. It's got the shoulders, it's got the arms, it's got the head on the shoulders, in a space suit, which is where they named the Soul Wave Earth Space Man came from. But it also looks like the things that were seen in Australia with the Blue Streak.

Yes, yes, that's right. So again, these always end up connecting because also in 1964, around the same time, as the Soul Way of Earth Space Man, they were doing a test in Australia. It was called Project Blue Streak. They were saying it was for satellites and everything, but it ended up being for a medium-range ballistic missile that England was testing out in concert with Australia. That was England's deal. That's right. And guess what? Guess where a Soulway Firth was? In England.

But isn't that where they made the rocket, too? That's right. So you had these figures, this one figure who was caught in instantaneously in a picture that nobody could explain this human-looking figure. In Australia. And they were also seen it. In Australia, this same-looking figure was seen there during the testing of this missile. They had to postpone the launch because they saw these people, right? That's right. They were by the launch pad. I think actually, do we have the old, news report? I love these old news reports. A rocket ready for testing.

No news site in this day and age. But this is a rocket with a difference. This giant will blast a new route to the stars as part of a European plan to put a new satellite into space. The rocket is British. Its name is Blue Street. It's part of a project which links seven nations together in the European Launcher Development Organization.

Nearly a decade of development work has gone into the giant, which is built largely of stainless steel. So I think it's... I don't want to repeat episodes here, and that's not the point here. Yeah, but the technicians, they saw the photograph that was taken in England, and the Australian newspaper said the figures were exactly the same. Exactly the same. So they were caught on, I guess, you know, security camera.

How good there were security cameras in the 1960s? I don't know. But they were also seen by the naked eye by the technicians there. And they figured, oh, my gosh, look, this is the same thing that we saw in the newspaper, because it became a national story and then became international. you know, news, so it took a little longer for news to travel back in the 60s. Yeah, they didn't have social media. I think, as we've had in past episodes, there were aliens that were here trying to prevent

nuclear war or nuclear escalation. So, and that's the question, right? So are these aliens who are looking out for our own well-being or were these time travelers? Because think about it. Now, when you kind of look at it now and we start to think about, yeah, okay, we talked about Solway Firth before in episode seven, but now it kind of makes, a little bit more sense when you think of this theory that aliens are actually us, that they're human time travelers, because why else would we be, why else would these beings be coming to

England and Australia just to stop, you know, try to stop a missile launch unless it's us trying to avert some type of disaster? And why do they look, why do they have a human figure? So these human figures are seen in an instantaneously in a picture, right? They weren't seen by the naked eye by Jim Templeton there on Solway Firth, but they are seen by the, naked eye, but then nobody could find them. Nobody could find these guys when they had to delay the launch. They just vanished. Yeah, why do they show up in a photo and you can't see them? But it's not the first time that we as humans were warned by aliens. Remember the famous Malstrom Air Force Base situation? That's number one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the human time travelers

were trying to possibly send the message there. But on March 16th, 1967, America's first line of defense was tampered with. It started at a missile launch site, code-named November, near Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana. For several hours, missiles loaded with nuclear warheads switched off, and no one could figure out why. Robert Salas was deputy crew commander that day, one of a two-man team inside one of the missile control bunkers, 60 feet underground. I've got a call from one of my security guards upstairs. He said that he and other guards had seen UFOs flying over the area. I didn't think he was serious.

Basically, we hung up. He hung up on him. Yeah, why? Yeah, right. Stop screwing around and get back to work. What are you drinking up there? Because he's down below. Right.

He's in a bunker down under the earth. And the guys up above are like, hey, there's like a red glowing UFO up here. And just a little background on Malmstrom. Because we've talked about Malmstrom before early on in our episodes. I may want to say it was within the first five episodes. and it's it, I always forget where it is,

it's Wyoming or Montana, it's one of the other, mounts from Air Force Base, but this happened again in the 1960s where everything shut down. It was, I think it was episode two, was the episode the day the nukes went dead. Yeah, well, so, okay, he gets the call from up above.

Right. Because he's downstairs where the nukes and all the controls are, and the phone rings again. About five minutes later, he calls back, and this time he's agitated. He's obviously frightened. He said that there was a UFO hovering just outside the front gate.

And it was glowing red. It was saucer shaped. And he was very frightened. Within a minute or two of the second call, the missiles started shutting down or going off alert. We were basically shocked to see our missiles going no-go sequentially. In other words, bing, bing, bing, bing, they just... Bing, Bing, Bing.

They just started going down. The only thing I could think was, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Because I'm sure that it's not supposed to do that. Correct. The board is not supposed to just automatically default off. Right. It'd have to be something extra.

An external force that's making that happen. Now, look, I know for any skeptics who are listening, you can say, oh, well, there's always computer malfunctions and everything. Well, not that bad. It was for an hour. Wasn't it for an hour? with yeah it was a while i mean they were without anything any type of nuclear capability or defense for a while because they were shut down so when you start to think about it in the aspect of i guess you

could say human time traveler type of way of thinking like we're talking about these things start to come together and make sense why did the sole waferth figure look like a human maybe it was why are these nukes being shut down at malcolm air force base maybe it's us trying to come back and say, hey, you morons, you're going to kill yourselves, or you did kill yourselves, and now we're trying to come back and change the past. I wonder if we're going to come back now because Russia might have its finger on the button, and they might try to come back and warn us. Who knows?

Keep an eye out. I'm telling you. And so when you start to think of it through that prism, right, when you start to look at these stories, and again, it's not that we've run out of material and are repeating things we've already talked about. It's just I felt it was important to make these points to kind of dig up some of these stories that we've already talked about when it came to Malmstrom or Solway and then look at it through this prism of, hey, wait, have we been looking at this all wrong? Is it possible? It's us.

It could be. Coming back to say, hey, remember, Roswell. Ah, there's a number. In 1947, a mysterious object crashed in the desert near Roswell, New Mexico. You all know this story, but could it really be aliens? The mysterious object was officially declared to be a U.S. Army Air Force balloon. But then, decades later, U.S. Navy commander, George W.

Hoover, who had top-secret clearance, revealed that the mysterious crash involved time-traveling humans. Somehow, these future humans had developed the technology to overcome the technological limitations that prevent us present-day humans from making the same type of trip. Some theories suggest that these future humans travel back in time

in order to understand their biological past. Maybe these same time travelers helped our ancestors to make huge leaps in scientific and technological knowledge in a relatively short amount of time. Aha! Look how far we've come in 100 years. Yeah, you're right. Look how far we've come in my life. lifetime. I had no computers. We just had TV starting. We had three channels, four channels. We had

UHS. But no cell phones. Look how far we've come. Yeah. How has that happened? Look, I mean, you could say it's human ingenuity, right? It's better supplies, whatever it might be. I mean, a leap in technology, modern day renaissance, so to speak. But when you think about it, the Renaissance, when that took place, people attribute, like we said earlier. Alien knowledge to Da Vinci, how far ahead of time he was. I mean, he invented the helicopter. I know he was drawing helicopter. He killed the idea for a helicopter.

Elevators and all kinds of stuff. Good gosh. I mean, 400 years before it was actually created. So when you start to think of it this way, and then you have a guy like that, okay, in Hoover, not president of Hoover, but, you know, the official there Hoover from the government who worked at Roswell at that time, who comes out, maybe you could say it's a death pet confession. Maybe that connects to one of our, you know, almost recent episode, deathbed confessions. Where he comes down and says, oh, by the way, those weren't aliens. Those were time travelers. So when you, again, when you think of it in that type of way, when you look at it through the time traveling prism, some of the stuff, it starts to come together.

Well, the reason why I brought up energy and matter, and, you know, Einstein figured that out, is we could be ourselves and you turn into energy. And that energy is able to travel, and then it manifests itself back into matter. You know what I'm saying? No, yeah. I think it's possible because it's the same thing. It goes back. And your energy stays with you. So, like, my energy is me.

It's your soul. Right, right. And I think that energy is able to travel around the universe. It could be. It could be. That's just my thinking. Listen, your theory is as good as anybody else's. And honestly, that goes as in concert with what, you know,

we talked about in our Edgar Casey, two-part series. So it's, again, it makes you think it's kind of a new way of looking at this. When you think about everything that we said here, it could account for every story maybe not every story, but almost every story relating to alien encounters or sightings. Now, it certainly does make sense when you start to connect the idea to things such as ancient aliens,

like they said in the clip there, or even alien abduction, Karen, like we talked about in the beginning. Think about it. Think about this way, okay? Why would an advanced life form travel across space and time only to come here and deal with

or study a lesser civilization such as ourselves, unless it is ourselves? I mean, after all, who else would have that much stock in our civilization other than us when you really think about it? It's like a past life on a galactic scale. Yeah. You know? Because you can have past lives here on Earth, but what if you have past lives in the universe? Sure.

I mean, so when you start to think of it all that way, when you kind of think outside the box, if you will, you start to wonder, could we be doing experiments in our past selves? Yeah. For, you know, maybe further future medical advancements. Were we going back in time to the ancient Egyptians to say, here's how to use energy. Here's how to build the pyramids. Here's how to know about perfect geometry and how to cut this and use our future. It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger coming back. Yeah, like a terminator thing.

To kill Sarah Connor. Sure. Or save her, right? Or kill. Yeah. Yeah. So when you go and you start to really connect the dots, I'm not saying this is the answer. All we're doing is we're pointing out the theory, but when you think of it in that sense, it does kind of make sense.

Again, why else, who else would have that much interest in our civilization, if not ourselves? I think so many people go through their daily lives, the routine of working and going to McDonald's and, you know, just worrying about finances and that. And they don't think outside the box about what we're talking about. And that's what we're here for. Yeah, because this is the bigger picture in a big way. Oh, you're right. You know, and you need to, when you look at the sky and you look at the sun, you need to ask questions like, why aren't there two sons? Yeah.

You know, why don't we have four moons? You know, is there something that's going to hit the earth at any time? Is there, are we going to see aliens at any time? And look, I'm guilty of it. Everybody is. We all get caught up in the daily, you know, the day to day. Oh, I got to go get the kids from daycare. I got to pay this bill.

Oh, you know, I got to pay my mortgage and my rent. So, you know, when's my pay day? oh, you know, this and that. Oh, the big game is on this weekend. Listen, I do it almost probably more than anybody else. But we need to be aware of the rest. It's good. You got to stop and smell the roses, so to speak, the old saying.

But it's true because it's important for, I think, our own development to stop for a minute and think about, hey, what else could be going on? Are there bigger questions out there that I'm ignoring or not seeing? And that's what the Einstein's and the Elon Musk's do. And yeah, I mean, it's true. and look at them throughout history. So in my, now, this is just me, Karen, and look, you can make up your own mind, any of our listeners, you make up your own mind.

But when you weigh the two options, okay, when you think about future humans having staking their own past selves and coming back in time to help avoid disaster or advanced civilization, that to me, to me, it makes more sense than a race of otherworldly beings simply just looking to kind of poke and prod their way,

like we do lab rats, for example. So you would think that if it was someone that was going to take the time to make these journeys across space, that they would have some type of interest or state. Vested interest, yes. Right. You know, and I just. Where they're not just showing up to scare us or take a peek at what we're up to.

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you watch the playoffs your way with no long-term contracts learn more at sling.com now so with that said I mean what if this isn't traveling across space maybe we're looking at it wrong that way because we've always said well how do they travel light years and light years through space and time is it wormholes is it folding upon each other is it just pure energy moving through space like you said or what if it's something just as simple as a time jump that that would be considered to be a UFO because when you think about it this way that would account for okay maybe it's you know again we've talked about maybe to use

wormholes maybe it's you know you're folding space onto itself and that's that accounts for you know going through the piece of paper rather than traveling top to bottom across the piece of paper and that's that you know is a way to explain a wormhole but think about all the reports Karen think of it this way okay all the reports

of UFOs that just ended up being super secret spy planes now yeah going 220 100 miles now yeah because look perfect example and this again goes back to the The SR-7-1 Blackbird is one of my favorite planes of all time. Okay? And that came out in 1966.

Now, this thing flew at altitudes of 85,000 feet in 1966. And this was a product of Skunk Works, which was a super secret division of Lockheed Martin, which, you know, the government denied it existed for decades and decades. But, you know, they were ones doing all these secret government work when it comes to military and otherworldly things. Now, 85,000 feet had a top speed. speed of 2,200 miles per hour. But now consider this. In 1966, no one had ever seen anything like that in the sky before.

So when they saw it, the only thing that they could do was, oh, my gosh, that's UFO, literally an unidentified flying object. And it was mistaken over and over again during test flights as an alien spacecraft, because nobody else, they didn't know what else it could be. So that could be some type of thing where if we can't explain it, it always falls under that category of UFO, UAP, especially the U. when it could come to future technology. Well, and I think our ancestors tried to explain stuff, you know, chariots of the gods.

Yes. And they saw things. They, you know, attached it to God and, and, but there were other books of the Bible that were left out that explained it as some sort of a craft. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's fair enough. And when you think about all these questions, I think it's fair to ask because before we get everything done here for today, there's actually one more very important. thought to consider, I think.

The Ananaki and what's the book that was left out? I mean, look, we've talked about the Ananaki before that, you know, when it comes to, were they the Nephilim, you know, the giants in the Bible? Right. And so there's so many questions to consider it. But I think one of the biggest questions. Oh, the book of Enoch. Yes, the book of Enoch. But one of the biggest questions I think, and I think this is where a lot of skeptics

will get at us, Karen. And again, I'm not saying this is the truth. I'm just saying I kind of. We invite skeptics. Absolutely. But this theory. It just makes sense of my mind. That's all.

The time traveling theory makes sense of my mind for all the reasons that we've given. But one thing that people will say, one question even I thought to myself when considering this before we started was, why do we look so different then? Why these? You mean then from aliens? Right. So why, you know, we always talk about the descriptions. We heard about Roswell there where the government official admitted later on. Yeah, those were time travelers.

Well, then why are these aliens? Why are these time travelers, these humans, so to speak? Why are they four feet tall with long arms, long gangly fingers and big bulbous heads and big eyes? Well, we did an episode on the different types of aliens, remember? Right. Some of them have, like, what, one red eye and three arms and one coming out of their forehead. There's all different kinds. There's lizard aliens.

The reptilians, yes. But the main ones are the ones that we know with the almond-shaped eyes, the big heads, spindly limbs. Those are the aliens that we're talking about that we believe that are, they're us. And I'm glad you said that because this theory here, the time traveling theory, does not account for, like I said earlier, does not account for every story, does not account for every encounter or interaction or even every other species like you're saying there, Karen. But it could make sense when you talk about the grays because even with such things like, you know, the Venusians with Vali and Thor, he looked like a regular guy, right? Which is why he was able to blend in. The Nordics, we've talked about them before. Oh, and you blend.

We've talked about the Nordics where they look like they've been described as looking like people from Sweden or Norway. Elon Musk. It's a Nordic. So they have said to be able to blend it with society because they look like humans, right? Right. So, but when we talk about the different-looking aliens like you're saying, or of course the classic grays, that's where the question comes in. Like you said, the bulb is head, the big eyes. How can we account for all that if it is indeed future-versy? versions of ourselves.

Or maybe evolution plays a part. Like us, they'd still walk on two feet, but their heads and their eyes would be much larger. This fits with predictions of how present-day humans will continue to evolve. We can expect our heads to be bigger and our upper skull to become more rounded to accommodate a larger brain.

And as our civilization advances enough for inter-eneralds enough for interplanetary travel, our eyes would get bigger so we can see better in dimmer environments that are further away from the sun. Future humans might also find a way to slow the aging process. So it would be possible to make several trips to places thousands of light years away within one lifetime. Well, someone who has a really big head and who is trying to slow the aging process is Madonna. Oh, no, don't even. That 13-second TikTok video is like from outer space. Yeah, really.

You're not kidding. The evolution, yeah. I mean, so that could be, you know. Look how we've evolved already. Sure. And if you're talking about future humans. And we're losing our pinky, so we might end up with the three fingers. I like my pinky.

I mean, that's a fair point. And if you're talking about humans who are time traveling and they are the aliens, I wouldn't expect it to be from, you know, 100 years or 500 years from now. I don't expect it to be pretty far, maybe millennia into the future where you would see some type of evolution. taking place. Tom Brady's like, no, he's bucking the aging, you know, evolution. He is. But what about things like longer limbs or, you know, different makeup of the anatomy? How can we explain that? If gravity was lower, like on Mars or the moon, humans could grow taller with longer arms and legs and would likely develop new ways of getting around. And that would change the structure

of the muscles in their bodies. And on an ice world, we could see the return of insulating body hair and fat, and even a change in our body clocks to encourage hibernation through the coldest times. Interesting.

Yeah, I was working out and pulled my fat. Don't want to do that? No, but weren't there two brothers? One went to space and one didn't and one was shorter or taller or whatever? Exactly. So I think that was Scott Kelly. The twins.

I think he's a senator now or something in Arizona. But when you think of it like that, and so it's a good point, because when you think about it in terms of evolution, when you talk about an environment, Karen, it's at the very least conceivable that us humans could look like the grays in the future. So when you look at the shorter grays like the one sent at Roswell,

that could be humans who became shorter due to an environment with stronger gravity. Right. To your point, Karen, it's been reported by NASA that astronauts who spend an extended period of time in space actually measure a couple of inches taller upon their return to Earth. The lack of gravity.

allows for the spine to expand. In the same way, you think about like a coil when you sit on your bed. Right. You have like one of those old squeaky beds. The coil goes down, right, when you sit on it. But when pressure releases when you get up. So your spine, when you're in space,

that pressure of the gravity is able to release, hence why I think it was Scott Kelly, who was able to grow a couple of inches taller. But then when you come back. Right. He was, right. But when you come back to Earth, you adjust.

You end up adjusting to the gravity on Earth and you end up going back down to. to the same height like it happened to the Kelly brothers. So when you start thinking about these different possibilities that could account for the longer limbs, the longer bodies like we've talked about with, you know, tall grays, with, you know, the long ganguly arms and the fingers and they're six or seven feet tall or, you know, sometimes nine feet tall. We've talked about different species of grays and aliens.

We talk about the big eyes and the big heads that you can account for that when it comes to different environment changes over time. Like with the cavemen, we were super hairy, you know, because it was during the ice age. Well, and we didn't have sewing machines back then. You had to, you know, stay warm. We had to evolve. Exactly. So these are things, I'm just pointing out, that could be not necessarily answers, but it could connect the dots as to how and why. It could be us. Maybe we are the aliens. We're just time travelers from the future who are using these craft, these what we call UFO, do these impossible shifts in speed, you know, go from zero to Mach 12 and turn it nine.

90 degree angles and using these triangle ships or cigar-shaped ships that we can't explain, it's possible that at least some of those, some of the explanations could be that it's us from the future and some sort of time traveling machine. But anyway, we can tell you what next week holds. We promise to be back next week. Yes, we'll do it again. We'll come back with episode 38. When it comes to, how about celebrity encounters?

What have they said before? You mean like celebrities have seen an alien? or a UFO? Exactly. Like whom? Well, Marilyn Monroe. No. I'm going to, well, we're going to get deep in the weeds next week.

There's a whole conspiracy. Well, Jackie Gleason, too. Jackie Gleason, Marilyn Monroe. Maybe there's a different reason why JFK was assassinated. Oh. And maybe there's a reason why Marilyn Monroe. An alien did it. Some mysterious circumstances that surround her death all these decades later.

I'm just, we'll get into it. That's crazy. We'll get into it. But there's some famous. encounters and celebrity stories, and we're going to get into all that stuff next week. But hopefully you wouldn't blow your mind too much. But I think it's interesting, right? It's an interesting thought to think about maybe it is us from the future.

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