UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 39: Sex, Lies, and Aliens - The Unheard Stories of Marilyn Monroe

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

There has always been some mystery surrounding the death of Marilyn Monroe. Some suspect that she may have been killed because of her affairs with the Kennedy's, but could there have been a bigger reason why they wanted her silenced? This could be one of the biggest alien cover ups of all time...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Episode 39, strap in and get ready because we're going to cover a whole range of things today in sex lies in aliens. Oh my gosh. That title came to me in my sleep, by the way. I'll bet it did. It was one of those things. Very juicy there. Oh, boy. So we got a lot to get to on this one today, which is really essentially part two, Karen, of what we did last week.

hello to you, Karen Curtis. Well, hello to you as well. Yeah, last week we talked about Elvis and... Baby, you had a great. Jackie Gleason. That was a lot of fun last week with celebrities and alien encounters and with, you know, those names you mentioned. There were two of the highlights of what we spoke about. I was most excited about Elvis having those special powers where he could make the leaves on Bush's move and make clouds disperse and appear.

I mean, I believe that he had... He was so, he had such a special energy to him. I didn't get to tell the story last week, not to get too far off the beating path here, because I do want to get into all the things we have today for sex lies and aliens involving JFK, if you heard the tease on the previous episode, JFK, Robert Kennedy,

Marilyn Monroe, and Burrell Lives. What did these four people have in common? Just wait until we hear this stuff. It's not Christmas. But just with that Elvis thing real quick, it reminds me of a story that, it's not Christmas, it reminds me of a story that actually happens.

to me a priest when I was a kid. We had this priest named Father Eve, and he was from Haiti. One of the nicest people I've ever met in my life was this priest, Father Eve. I'll never forget him as long as I live. But there was a story from our pastor of the church where if you're local to the area in South Florida, this was at Our Lady of Lords in Boccuritone, where I grew up because we do this show in South Florida. I know we have listeners all over the world. We do. Thank you to everybody who listens to all different countries. So if you ever wondered, We do the show here in South Florida, West Palm Beach. I think South Africa and Australia are our hot spots, or was it Canada?

Canada, England's. Yeah, Australia. So thank you to everybody who listens around the world. We appreciate you. Yes. Sorry for the bad accents. But no, so just real quick, the story. So with Father Eve, the pastor told the story, and he was dead serious.

He's like, we were out with Father Eve and it was pouring. And we all knew the storm. It was a really bad storm we had one day. And he said we came out of the church. And Father Eve, and the pastor, his name was Father Reardon. And he said, and we were like, oh, geez, you know, we forgot our umbrellas. And Father Eve looked up to the sky and said, stop. No.

And it stopped raining. My gosh. Over the church, it stopped raining. What? I'm not making this up. I know it sounds stupid. I know it sounds fantastical. Like, oh, you're some crazy Jesus person.

No, I'm telling you this happened. Remember Tim Russert when he died? They had his funeral. Yeah. And when they went outside, there was a huge rainbow in the sky. That's right. And they thought it was him, yeah. So there's just some weird things like that that maybe we'll get into in a future

episodes, hint, hint. Yes, because maybe people come back and they remember. Hint, hints. A few episodes. So that just reminded me of that story. Love it, Father Eve. But anyway, so. Make it stop.

Here we go. Part two, essentially. And this started out as one episode last week with Celebrity Alien Encounters. And we came up with so much that we had to split this one part here with those names I mentioned, Merrill Monroe and the such, where we just had to separate it into its own episode here today. You're going to be so glad that we did because now we can do a deep dive. Yes.

And before we do that, though, I have to give you my little factoid. You know, there's always a factoid to start. I actually had this last week, but then something else happened, so I saved it for you. Oh, good. It's in the Peruvian Amazon. They have native stingless bees. I've never heard of this. Native stingless bees.

Now, that's a kind of bee that I could dig, right? Yeah, I would like those actually here instead. the giant wasps that we have. What are those Africanized bees? What are the killer murder bees? Oh, yeah, the murder hoarder. I remember those. Oh, my God.

So anyway, they're helping beekeepers and their communities by producing honey and pollinating local plants with something called Miracle Liquid. Huh. It's a medicinal honey from these bees. It's medicinal. They've got their biological name is tetraganaula iridipinous. Oh, yeah, I've heard of those.

Iridipinus. Yes. It's in southern India, too. The forest communities harvest the medicinal honey from the bees, and it helps to heal. Wow. So the bee, the honeybee, if we don't have honeybees, we don't exist. Yes, very true. The honey bees are like the moon.

Got to have both. Don't mess with the moon and don't mess with the honeybees. Leave them both alone. That's right. Thank you very much. Thank you, Elvis. Thank you. So getting into it here now.

Are you ready for this? By the way, that's what? one of our most listened to episodes is about the moon. Oh, that's right. That was a two-parter as well, actually. This is kind of like an unofficial two-party here. Yeah, Secrets of the Moon, part one and two. Way back when, if I want to go listen to those. So,

Marilyn Monroe, of course, one of the most famous names in modern history. She died back on August 4th, 1962, various mysterious circumstances, a lot of different theories as to how and why she died. But before then, she had famously

been rumored to be in a sort of love triangle affair with both JFK and Robert F. Kennedy. She got passed around a lot. Yeah. You know, it was, that's the way it was, the casting call couch in Hollywood. Women got, you know, they became, the starlets were, you know, they had to earn their keep and they had to, whatever. So it happened. And she would use men to get where she wanted to go. I mean, you know, she had a couple of marriages.

Obviously, Joe DiMaggio was one of the more famous ones, but then she gets into this love triangle. Roger Miller, too. Yeah. I mean, she married some pretty distinguished people. She did. And, I mean, she did a lot in her short life, really. And, I mean, she kind of worked her way up the social ladder.

I mean, she wanted to be taken seriously, though. She did. And it was hard with the roles they kept giving her. And the same thing happened to Elvis. They minimalized him, and he wanted to be a real actor, and they kept putting him in those blue Hawaii kind of movies, you know. He wanted to be taken seriously. He wanted to be like from here to eternity.

He wanted to be Bert Lancaster rolling around in the Hawaiian beach in the surf with Deborah Kerr. Can you imagine if he got that role and Maryland got that role? It would be Elvis rolling around the Hawaiian beach. Oh, my goodness gracious. Now, that. Yeah, but they just want to be taken seriously, not these beach blanket bingo things. And I think that's kind of where she found herself because then she finds yourself in all these affairs. So, well, first we'll start with JFK.

Yes. Now, there are differing reports really through all. I mean, there's been so many books and things written about it. So we're not really trying to rehash things you may have heard or read or seen. It's just it kind of all comes together here. This was really toward the end of her life after she's gone through a string of men. That's right. And there's been all different types of reports through history.

How many times were they actually together? I mean, there's reports that the only time that they slept together was at a Christmas party that Bing Crosby through. No way. Yeah, that's what they said. And it was at his house, actually. So it wasn't in the Lincoln bedroom with Jackie down the hall? Yeah, I mean, that's what they say. That was like a one-night stand.

And she swears that's all it was. So there's all these different reports. But supposedly things got so serious between her and the president. Well, and his brother. And his brother. Didn't they have an aminagee twa with her? That's another rumor. Yeah.

So, I mean, gosh, you never know. I've been in the White House. But supposedly, Karen, when it came to just JFK, things got to a point where she actually fascinated, Marilyn Monroe that is fascinated about becoming first lady. And she reportedly had a conversation with Jackie Kennedy about it. Did he tell her, of course, I'll marry you now get into bed? Or where does she come up with this?

You know, but she apparently, did she call Jackie up, right? She did. Well, reportedly, here's what it sounded like. He claims that Monroe, aware her career was fading, thought Kennedy would marry her. Can't you just see me as First Lady? She told a friend. Anderson says Monroe even called Jackie

and told her of JFK's promise to marry her. Jackie was unfazed. Marilyn, you'll marry Jack, that's great, and you'll move into the White House and you'll assume the responsibilities of First Lady, and I'll move out, and you'll have all the problems. So he's told her he would marry her. Yeah?

And they slept together one time? That must have been one good roll in the hang. I don't know. I mean, maybe it was more than once, or it was just so impactful that there you go. But this is according to what, Christopher Anderson's book? Yeah, he wrote a book, this guy, Christopher Anderson, apparently dug really, really deep into the affairs and all these things. And not that this whole podcast is about JFK and Marilyn Monroe affairs. You'll see it all comes together.

But he wrote a book called These Few Precious Days, and he detailed some of the more in-depth history of their relationship. So just for context here, the book also chronicles Jackie Kennedy and her knowledge of JFK's many affairs through their marriage. Yeah. So it wasn't just Marilyn Monroe, obviously, as we know, or, you know, reportedly anyway. According to Sue Anderson, the author of the book, Jackie was willing and able to actually turn a blind eye to the side relationships that JFK had as long as nothing was made public. And that's the key here. Nothing was made public. Happy birthday.

That would cause Jackie the embarrassment. Yeah. But there was something about his trist with Monroe that just was not sitting right with her. Because Marilyn was a loose cannon who could go public at any time, causing a scandal that would obliterate her husband's reputation, destroy her marriage, and hold her up to public ridicule. You know what happens to loose cannons. What's that, Karen? They get their fuse lit. Yeah, I see.

And you start to see how this all, you know, kind of comes together here. She's worried if the first lady was reportedly worried about the so-called loose cannon coming out, telling secrets. I'm just saying. so not to get too scandalous here. I know. Believe it or not, this is a UAP alien podcast. It is. Bear with us. But I just, it was important, I thought, for those stories to be told first to show how she was viewed, you know, by inner circle of elites about, you know, this loose canon type of persona. And that, and what they were kind of dealing with and what she was dealing with.

Yeah. She had some memory gaps. And it wasn't lost time. I think it was too many drinky-winkies and maybe too many secondol pills. She had a lot of addictions, unfortunately. And, well, another example here of kind of like the inner circle, Frank Sinatra. Right. Here's what he supposedly said there.

And she wrote about in her diary. I'd love to read her diary. According to Rothmiller, one entry from the week before her death read, Frank Sinatra, Peter and others were there. Frank said, I can't keep my f*** mouth shut. He told me to get out. I don't know why he's treating me this way. What happened to me? I was drunk.

I don't remember. Did I have sex? Man, that's a diary. Lost time. Wow. Yeah, well, sometimes you have lost time in different ways other than the nailing and abduction, I guess. Now, but that excerpt came from the book, Bombshell, the night Bobby Kennedy killed Marilyn Monroe.

Whoa. Written by former LAP detective Mike Rothmiller, who you heard in the sound there. Now, that's a pretty damy name for a book. Ah, yeah. So how did we make a giant leap like that, where we go from relationships and scandals to Bobby Kennedy killing Marilyn Monroe? Yeah. Well, supposedly, she went on to have a much more serious affair with Bobby Kennedy, who was the Attorney General at that point.

And after both he and John stopped communicating with her, things reportedly got ugly. Here's another excerpt from her diary, actually. In the next entry, which had an angrier tone, Monroe reportedly wrote, They are not calling back. Bob and John abused me. I told Peter they're ignoring me. I'm not going to stand for that. I'm going to tell everyone about us.

I won't be ignored, Dan. No, but they did have pillow talk. They told her stuff. Men are so dumb. Yeah, we are. Yeah. You get us in bed and you just. Oh, yeah, anything, but yeah.

Sure, I'll marry you. Go ahead. The seal is off the lips. I love you, baby. Oh, yeah. But now, for context, by the way, keep hearing the name Peter. Yeah. She's referring to in her entries was Peter Lawford, who was an actor and brother-in-law of the Kennedy brothers.

He was married to Patricia Kennedy. Yeah. And, well, here's another weird thing. Lawford actually gave a deathbed confession. Not another deathbed confession. We're back. Here he is. Lawford apparently said that he had been in Monroe's home that night and witnessed the whole thing,

although he claimed that he believed Kennedy had merely slipped a sedative, not poison, into her drink. A few years later, in 1988, Lafford's fourth wife, Patricia Seton, revealed that Laffert was called by Monroe on the night she died. She also said that Lafford claimed he recognized her call as a suicide gesture, but ignored it nonetheless. Yeah, he felt guilt about it. He felt a lot of guilt about it. Those incidents seemed to haunt him a lot. Marilyn was haunting him. Yeah, right. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee, Brooke Linnon, and Kylie. But what if people haven't heard about your brand? Well, Shopify helps you find your customer.

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reportedly with Bobby Kennedy got very serious and we like we mentioned you know they stopped communicating with her she kind of had like that scorned lover thing going on and it got so bad that she started to threaten that she was going to reveal the secrets here's what she wrote in her diary what I think the day before she died yeah the day of her final entry written the day before her death apparently read Peter said Robert will come tomorrow I don't know if he will So apparently When you look at this as a murder mystery type thing Again, not that we're trying to do sex scandals and murder mysteries

But hey, sex lies and aliens, right? That's the name of the episode. When you look at it from an investigative standpoint, you start to think to yourself, wait a minute, do you actually have Robert Kennedy in Marilyn Monroe's home in the night that she died? And according to some of these investigative journalists and former LAPD officers, the answer is yes.

So why? Why was he there? Why? What was so important about her diary, about the things that she was writing and willing to reveal? Was it just sex scandals? Was it just that she was going to come out and say, I'm sleeping with the president? I'm sleeping with the attorney general. To Jackie Chagrin. Right. Then that was going to solely the Kennedy name. Or, uh-huh. Was it one of the biggest government secrets that slipped through his lips during pillow talk? Was there something more that would have pushed theoretically, supposedly that would have pushed by? Bobby Kennedy to want to eliminate or have someone else eliminate Marilyn Monroe because he was there according to the reports.

But, you know, Karen, it would be too easy if it just stopped at a sex scandal. Oh, yeah. No. That's not what we're about here. Here's the things when everything kind of takes a wild turn and even more wild turn. What if there was more than one reason? What if she knew too much about top secret information that she found out through that pillow talk, right? What if that information involved the greatest government secret of all?

And of course we're talking about the information surrounding visitors from other worlds. That's right. Because every president is told about these things. I mean, to some extent. Because Nicholas Cage made a couple movies about it. Nicholas Cage. I love Nicholas Cave movies. The book.

Oh, yeah, the book of secrets. Oh, yeah. Love those movies, National Treasure. Yeah, so if you thought that. stuff was highly guarded by Nicholas Cage and, you know, the Declaration of Independence and all that. Just multiply all that by 100 back in the 60s. So how would Marilyn Monroe know about all these different things, Karen? How would she know? Well, apparently JFK was very curious about the subject himself. So he reportedly met some blowback when it came to finding out the truth. But by who? He's the

President of the United States. Right, right. Now, this clip you're about to hear is a little long, okay? and you know that if we play a long clip, it's for a good reason because we felt it was important to play you the whole thing here to properly frame the gravity of the situation that Marilyn Monroe may have inadvertently found herself in. Now, just real quick, the background here, JFK was digging around the CIA for a truth about Roswell. That's a known fact, okay?

That's not conspiracy. The fact, if you look at anything, read any JFK history, he wanted to know about aliens. He wanted to know about the truth about Roswell, the crash there and things like that, and felt as the president he was entitled to know those things. And he was. But at that point, okay, you already had other groups, such as the Majestic Twelve. That's right.

They were not very happy that he was pretty much snooping around and asking the CIA for information. And we've talked about the Majestic Twelfth. We have, yeah, I mean, in depth in previous episodes. And if you're not familiar, they had supposed, they wrote. Valiant Thor part of them? No, he was kind of outside of that. But Majestic 12 came across after the Roswell incident. So Truman wanted a government oversight committee.

I guess you could say who would be in charge of future incidents like Roswell. Somebody he could rely on to take care of it. Oh, okay, there's another weather balloon? Yeah, exactly. And so they came up with the Majestic 12, supposedly. MJ12. MJ12 for short, and they were originally made up of, you know, the top scientists, the top generals, people like that. And fast forward, 15 years later to the 1962 area,

they had become very powerful this group. And they were the ones, supposedly, according to the theories, overseen all these things. They were the ones in charge, not the president. It's the majestic 12th, the CIA who were in charge of alien secrets. And they don't want to. I heard this actually from someone within the government where they said one time, they look at the president because Clinton tried to find out secrets. He did.

And they wouldn't tell him. And reportedly, Clinton had a close friend that came to him and said, do you want to end up like JFK? No. Yes. And they said, you better stop asking questions about aliens. That's true story. And reason being is because they look at presidents as part-time employees. They are.

They're around for at the most. Eight years, at the most. You're talking about government employees who are there for 40 years, 50 years. Except you got Biden. He's been there for vice president. True. I mean, he's been around. on a long time as a senator and vice president president.

How much he knows. It's a good question. Because you do have people who are in government for a long time as well, for sure. But these people who work within these organizations, they look at themselves as the grand pooh-baz. So they did not want to tell JFK anything going back 60 years ago. So they supposedly wrote a memo on how to handle the situation and then burned it. But he did find out reportedly some secrets about Roswell enough anyway that may have

implicated Marilyn Monroe. about what she possibly knew. But now here's the thing about that burn memo. Yeah. It's pretty wild. Someone saved it. It was a nine-page memo. They saved it from the fire.

Yeah, they're trying to say this could not even be recreated. Right. You know, there's people that are trying to figure out how this could be a fake. But it's a nine-page memo. It's got burn marks on it. And just for reference sake, JFK Secret Service code name was Lancer. Here we go. As you must know, Lancer has made some inquiries.

regarding our activities which we cannot allow. And perhaps the most chilling page of the burned memo states, when conditions become non-conduasive for growth in our environment, and Washington cannot be influenced any further, the weather is lacking any precipitation. It should be wet. That's an old Soviet phrase. Wet work means that's when you kill people covertly.

It's a very kind of careful way of describing, if Kennedy doesn't play ball real soon, he's got to be taken out. So obviously what must have happened is Kennedy started asking about aliens, grays, UFOs, the whole thing. And MJ12 took a vote and decided we have to get rid of this guy.

Okay. So they... Wow. There's a lot to unpack there. But the weather report's interesting because you remember Holly Golightly and breakfast at Tiffany's would go to jail and give the weather report.

Right, right. It's an old Russian thing, I guess. I never knew that. I did not know. You're all wet, Stephen. Yeah, well, that's not good. No. I won't be back for episode 40 then.

Oh, my gosh. So apparently, and I know this is where really things start to come together. So if I know, you know, what they're essentially saying there is that JFK was assassinated because he was trying to find out too much about aliens. And who had Russian ties? I mean, well, they say. The guy that shot him. Yeah. And they also.

The Harvey Oswald went to Russia. That's right. And also they said. say that Marilyn Monroe actually was friends with communists within her own inner circle and she actually wanted to go to Russia herself. She wanted to go to Moscow to kind of learn more about this

society according to some things in her diary. So this all kind of comes together. So now we're kind of making the leap here. Russia, Russia, Russia. Yeah. We're making the leap here that not only the JFK end up finding out too much and wanted to know too much, but he may have actually spilled

some of the secrets to Marilyn Monroe. So are we actually suggesting that both people were killed because of the alien secret. I mean, think about that. I know. It's mind-blowing. Now, this is mind-blowing. It's obviously wild stuff.

But you're probably still wondering since last week, how does Borrell eyes fit into all this? It's the best time of the year. Yes, the snowman himself. It said that he got direct information from Marilyn Monroe before her death. and that she wanted to reveal more than just her affairs with the Kennedys. Wait a minute. How does Marilyn Monroe know Burle Ives? They all knew each other.

She must have met him at that Bing Crosby Christmas party, which she left for JFK. He was in the next bedroom with Ava Gardner. I guess so. Oh, my God. So according to you, as aliens as my witness, we are not making this up. Burr-Live said in a report before his death that he believed Maryland. Marilyn Monroe was killed because of the alien secret. Those are his words.

Look it up. That's what he believed. Who did he tell this to? Some reporter that, you know, that kind of got out there. He thought that she knew too much, not only about JFK's personal affairs, maybe things in government that she shouldn't have known about, but because of the alien secret, that JFCK told her things about Roswell, that she was going to come out and reveal along with the affair. She's such a loose canon. Of course, they had to get rid of her.

So based on a top secret classified document taken from a vault at the NSA. Oh, I love it. Yes. I mean, let me just. Oh, my God. Let me repeat that. Burn documents and secret vaults. Top secret, classified vault NSA. Yeah. We got it all right here.

All in the same sentence. And it's important, by the way, Karen, that you mentioned that term loose canon again because that reportedly was a Jackie Kennedy called her. Yeah. So this is all kind of coming together. did Marilyn Monroe really kill herself? Well, I'm believing that she didn't at this point. What was her official cause of death?

Probable suicide. That is so strange because the medical examiner, when they list the cause of death, that's the official cause of death. That's exactly. And you can't argue it. That's where they start any kind of criminal investigation. If they put homicide, then that's their decision to do that. But if they put homicide, you have to investigate it. probable suicide tells me nothing.

No, not at all. It's completely vague. And that's a little old fact, by the way. I'm glad you bring that up. That is the official cause of death. If you look it up on Marilyn Monroe's death records from L.A. County, right? Yeah. It says probable suicide.

That's the official record. What the hell does that mean? Exactly. Probable suicide. Either it's suicide, homicide, right. Exactly. Not probable. You don't go probable homicide.

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because she was going to tell the world about the spacecraft that was recovered at Roswell. Oh, the weather balloon. Yeah, the old weather balloon. According to Dr. Greer, an insider that he was connected to, mailed him a copy of that document, which was, according to him... What, Burlives got this from?

Dr. Greer got it from somebody. Okay. It was mailed to him, an insider that he knew. And this document that Dr. Greer obtained was signed by a man named James Jesus Angleton. This guy... Jesus or Jesus?

No, Jesus. Angelton. He's got Jesus and Angel in his name. Crazy, right? Now, if you know anything about government conspiracy and CIA and NSA and things like that in the Majestic 12, you might have just had his chill shuddered down your spine because if you know about it, you know about James Jesus. This guy is famous with the conspiracy circles.

He was the chief of counterintelligence for the CIA from 1954 until 1975. Wow. 21 years. Now, the document described as a wiretap that was placed on Marilyn Monroe, and it details her discussion with a friend in New York, in which she allegedly said that she was going to hold a press conference to disclose what President Kennedy had told her about, quote, objects from outer space that were recovered from New Mexico in the 1940s.

That is according to this document from a wiretap on Marilyn Monroe. Because remember, if you ask yourself, well, why would you? would they be wiretapping Marilyn Monroe? Remember what I said about five minutes ago? She was dealing with communists. She had friends in communist circles. She was wanting to go to Moscow herself. That's in her diary.

So 1960s, the government was very big on trying to uncover communists within Hollywood and within society. So there might have been good reason to have her wiretapped. Maybe that's why the government was wiretapping her. And then they hear that? Uh-oh. Red flags. Back to the loose cannon thing from Jackie Kennedy, right?

Now, Dr. Greer even said that he spoke to one of Monroe's close friends in the film industry, who, yes, was the actor and singer Burr Alives. Now, according to him, I've said that the cause of her death wasn't suicide. I've believed, according to Dr. Greer, that the secret that she was ready to reveal could have more than likely been the scenario as to why she was killed. And you know what? The dates of death, it's not a coincidence, I don't think. You've got August, 1962. I was born in January, 1962, so I am not Marilyn Monroe reincarnated, unfortunately.

Then you had JFK November, 22nd, 63. Oh, almost a year later, yeah. And then Bobby, you had June 6th in 1968. Right. And both of those were actually televised seemingly, right? Yeah, that's fair. They're both caught on camera. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, Bobby Kennedy, for sure. I mean, that was a primary speech in California, right? Well, in the Lafruder film, you have. Yeah. So, that's weird. That's really weird. So I just want to go roll back. You were talking about Dr. Greer.

He had an insider who was connected to the NSA. To the NSA. Do we know who that was? You never said the name. You never gave that information. It wasn't Burr Lives. No. That's where I got computer.

That wasn't Burr Lives, but he did reportedly, according to him, but he spoke to Burr Lives, and that's where some of that information comes from. But, I mean, just to go back real quick to James Jesus over there, again, if you know that name, you might have got to chill when you first heard it. Because if you really look into this, okay, and I'm actually kind of scared even talking about this because if you really look into this, there is theories that James Jesus was the one to order the hit on JFK. That he was the one is, again, this guy was the chief of counterintelligence. So he called up Lee Harvey and he goes, yo. You're going to be the guy.

Go to the book depository. That's it. You're the fall guy. With his $12 rifle, by the way, that can cost $12. And they still say there might have been a second shooter. You know, the old, the grassy knob, what is it called? No. The grassy knoll.

The Warren Commission figured out nothing. There's that magic bullet that went through JFK's neck into Connolly and somehow ended up pristinely on the side of his bed. If there was one bullet, how did it end up on the side of the bed going through two men? Makes no sense. Oh, my God. But when you start to think about what we spoke about here today, Karen, kind of does make sense, doesn't it? Then you talk about the sex scandals.

You talk about these secret affairs between both Kennedys. You talk about how they didn't want their name to be sullied in the press. And then you talk about what Kennedy was trying to uncover, what he did uncover from the CIA and the Majestic 12, and what he may have told Marilyn Monroe. According to some of these reported wiretaps and the things in her diary, she was ready to talk about more. than just affairs.

Yeah. I was just going to say that, quite honestly, I don't see Marilyn Monroe being snuffed out because she had sex with someone. Right. It would have to be something far more impactful. Like, and you know how terrified they were of how the masses would respond

if they did know that aliens were real? It's not like now. They thought there would be panic. No, now it's like, oh, it's open. Right. That's why we're doing the podcast. Right. The government is telling us it's true.

So could it be possible? Yeah. Wow. It makes sense. Sex-Ligy aliens. Probable suicide. Probable suicide. That is the official cause of death on her autopsy report. What is it?

Probable deniability. What is it? Plausible deniability. That's right. There was a lot of plausible deniability here in this story, for sure, with all these characters. Wow. This is one of our better episodes. Man, I'm telling you, when it really all comes together like that, you start to think to yourself,

there might be something to this. Maybe they were killed because of the alien secret. And JFK wanted to talk about this. wanted public disclosure about the alien secret. He did. That's on the books. He didn't tell Jackie about it. No.

They didn't have any pillow talk. My goodness gracious. So make up your own mind. Yeah. That's what we always do here. We let you make up your own mind. If you think it's craziness, then think it's craziness. That's fine with us.

But we're just giving you what's out there and you can make up your own mind. That's right. Oh, boy. What do we do in next week? You know what? We have two ideas. What are you going with? I think what we're going to do, it's going to get heavy.

I mean, this was kind of heavy in its own right. But the sacred geometry, we both of us, have always been fascinated by this. Yeah, fifth grade, I learned about the Fibonacci numbers and the golden mean and what it meant, and it blew my mind. How is all this connected? It's the universe. The universe. I mean, it's math. Is it proof of intelligent design?

Why do we have a spiral galaxy and spirals here and spirals there and everything kind of adds up? One and two is three, two and three and three is eight, five and eight is 13. so on. That's the growth rate of a tree, of a nautilus shell, of rabbit reproduction. Talk about rabbit. Of the bay of rabbit hole. We're going to get down a rabbit hole in this one. The rate that a baby grows. It's all connected to the golden mean. It's crazy. So we're going to dive deep, I think next week into the sacred geometry for episode 40.

Because what? You binary number one and zero, one and zero, one and zero. Right. There's a lot to uncover with this. And it does, trust me. And I'm terrible at math. You're good at it, though. That kind of. It just, it all connects with, I mean, the mysteries of the universe. We are going to unravel the mysteries of the universe. No pressure there. On the next episode. By the way, you could always check it out.

Not really a lot of pictures to go with this one. Normally, we always say go to 850WFTL.com on the UAPB blog. Yeah, I mean, that'll be, you know, that'll be there. But it's always there anyway. So you could always go to the blog on 850WFTL.com. You search the podcast section. You'll find UAP right there. And this episode will be there.

all the past episodes with all the photo editions that go along with it. It's fascinating. Check out the Majestic 12 one. And, you know, we also did a Roswell one. Oh, yeah. Locations of A lot of what we've already done connected to this episode. So you can always go back and listen to us well on Apple and Spotify. Download, subscribe to the podcast.

Thank you all again for making this podcast what it has become and what it continues to grow into, which is just phenomenal. It's blowing everybody's mind here around us. So thank you all. Please help us to continue to continue. grow it and give us five extraterrestrial stars. Wait. Thank you very much. Thank you, Elvis.

Thank you, Elvis. Oh, and of course on Twitter, at UAP Podcast 850 is where you can find us on Twitter as well. So until next time, Karen and I are going to go study the sacred geometry. I hope we are here for episode 40. Yeah, they might see. A.might might come after us. I don't know. After this one, we've got to be careful.

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