UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 50 California's Bug Problem - The Mantis Abductions

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

If the thought of alien abduction wasn't creepy enough, imagine getting taken by an alien that is a giant Praying Mantis! These stories are absolutely startling and even more fascinating when you start to realize they are all happening in the same area off California's coast. Do they have underwater bases? This episode is loaded...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Enroll for summer at SMC.edu. AP time, the Unidentified Alien podcast, Stephen Deiner right here. Karen Curtis over there. Hello. Karen, how are you? Well, I'm fine. Oh, good. That's nice.

And so today... Nothing bugging me today. I see what you did there because today we are going to do the bug problem in California. We have to address this big bug problem in California, Karen. They definitely have a problem with bugs. Oh, my gosh. So, yes, well, not to give too much away here in the opening teas. My gosh, I think my microphone just broke.

But not to give too much away here, but the bug problem has to do with, we'll just call them praying mantis. What? The mantis beings. Oh, there's alien mantises. Yeah, this is disturbing. And for whatever reason, all of it is happening in California. So we're going to get into that today. And you know what else?

I have to say before we get into all the fun, so to speak, today, right now, this episode that you're listening to is our 50th episode. No. Milestone. Wow. And we just became a year old. Yeah, exactly. So I guess, you know, if you think about it, we were supposed to do one every week. But, you know, you miss some time here and there.

We had a lot of missing time in the holiday and this past month. We weren't abducted. We just had missing time. Yes, exactly. I had COVID a few weeks ago. So that was a lot of fun. But this is our 50th episode. So I guess, yay to us.

And thank you to everyone who's gotten us this far. Yes. Listen, I'm all kidding aside before we get into our factoid here, because, you know, we always start up with our factoid. but if this wasn't consumed the way it has been by all of you, if it wasn't made into one of the top statistically speaking podcasts in the world right now, which is weird to say because of all of you who listened to this and who downloaded and take it in and enjoy it, if it wasn't for you, I honestly just would have stopped doing this.

Yeah. I mean, it's really, it's a lot. It takes a lot of time to put this together every week. And if we were getting... Are you complaining? No, no, no, no. No, we actually love doing this. Yes, we do.

And, you know, probably, I would have stopped maybe 20 episodes in. I thought, I would have thought, look, this is a lot of fun. We love doing it. But five, six hours every week of doing this and maybe 10 people listening, it's not worth it. But, I mean, thousands and thousands, I mean, literally upon thousands of downloads and listens every month, because of you who enjoy this show. So because of you, we keep doing it. we've gotten to do 50 episodes of this, so thank you.

Yeah, yes. And I think what contributes to the success of this is that there's a lot of talk about aliens and Space Force and the government, the Pentagon, actually releasing videos. And that's what got us going on this because it became kind of like okay to talk about it. Yeah. You weren't like some weirdo. But like you said, Karen, with Space Force, this, I guess has to do with our factoid, right?

This is quite the story. and actually happened here in Florida. A Florida man. Just hashtag Florida man and see what comes up. A lot of stories. He is accused of stealing a truck and attempting to break into a space force base. He says that President Biden told him to steal the truck. Oh, no.

And break into the base. Oh, boy. 29-year-old Corey Johnson told authorities that he was at Patrick's Space Force base on behalf of the president. I don't think that's true. To warn Space Force about, quote, U.S. aliens fighting with Chinese dragons and crook. Oh, no. And of course, a Florida man, right?

Has to have a Florida connection. I got to tell you. We've covered a lot of pretty wild stories and claims from people, you know, witnesses or people who couldn't have been abducted. But we've never heard that one. No. Aliens fighting Chinese dragons. That's something that, yes, that's new to us. That has alluded us in our research over the year of doing the...

show that's different yeah it's not like it's fighting bugs no which we're gonna get into here so as we get into the bug problem in california karen what what is the bug problem that california has some look like an ant stick like legs like bamboo okay so that's a little description there and stick like legs like bamboo kind of looks like an aunt okay you hear a description there you're gonna hear from people who say that they have been abducted by these beings. And let me also first say to a little disclaimer here on this episode, it deserves a creepy warning if we had like a rating of creepy. Big time creepy.

I would say we put that on this one because we are discussing the so-called bug aliens and more commonly referred to as the mantis aliens or beings due to their resemblance to a giant humanoid like praying mantis or like the description you heard there to start off like big ant of some sort. This isn't like the reptilians, the grays, the Venetians. Completely different. Something that completely different than what we've covered before when it comes to a

different species of alien that people say they've seen and come in contact with. So yeah, like I said, creepy warning, okay? Now for reasons that we will explore here, all of these stories that take place within, they all take place within the same vicinity surrounding Catalina Island. Oh, we had some other stories of. about that. We have. Yep. And that's right off of California's southwest coast. So think as far as... Like San Diego, yeah. Yeah, like geography, you know, kind of out, obviously off

the coast of California between like L.A. and San Diego. There have been so many sightings in this area. It's actually considered to be an official U.S.O. Hot spot. So remember, U.S.O, the difference between their UFO, U.S.O. S is in Sam, not F as in Frank. That's correct. So unidentified, submerged, or submersible objects. There's different definitions that people use. But basically UFO is underwater to put it in, you know, easy terms. And just also for context, Karen, I wanted to say, I actually came up with the idea for this episode a few weeks ago.

I mentioned when I had COVID. I was laying in bed with a COVID-induced fever and body chills. So that's when this thing kind of came into my head to do this episode. I started coming across all these facts and details. So I'm not sure if that makes this better or worse, that that's how this popped into my head. But believe it or not, these mantis beings actually connect us to something that we have covered extensively in the past. U.S.Os. And these U.S.Os have been seen in various spots around the world. But the majority of sightings, for whatever reason, and actually, we do have some theories

that we're going to get into later in the show. They seem to happen off the coast of California in the Catalina Island area. One such sighting was even caught on video by the U.S. Navy. Just a few years ago in 2019 here's what that sounded like. Whoa, it's getting close. Yeah, we have 31 knots to stay with outside of dust in the floor. Well, it's flash. Splashed.

Wow. So funny, because I look at everything in my life now. I'm out walking the dog in the morning when it's dark and I'm looking up at the sky. I look at everything through the lens of this podcast. I know. It's changed my life. Well, that's good.

It has. Hopefully for the better. No, it is. That's good. It is. because it makes some of the little picayune stuff in life really not that important. Yeah, I mean, when you start to look at the big picture, which is what we try to do on this, you know, on the show is we look at the big picture a lot

and thinking universal aspects or even maybe multi-universal aspects sometimes. That's right. And it's, you know, it gets a little deep, a little heavy. But that footage there that you heard, that was filmed from the USS Omaha, like we said, in 2019. And you hear them say splash. I mean, they're watching this thing go into the water. So naturally, you would think. think that there's some type of wreckage. And again, this happened right off the coast of Catalina

Island. So worth to mention that again, all these stories that we're going to cover here today for whatever reason happened in that area. So the Navy did actually search for the wreckage, but oddly enough, nothing was found. So that leads us to a theory, Karen, that maybe it didn't crash at all because they didn't find wreckage. It's possible that, you know, if something crashes, you don't find wreckage, right? I mean, that's happened before with plane crashes in the water. But, I mean, you know, it's happened. But, you know, they don't see any wreckage. They don't see any sign of a crash at all.

Malaysia, that Malaysia flag. Exactly. It just disappeared. So maybe instead of crashing, this thing actually traveled through the water. Right. Underwater. Underwater. But to where?

An underwater base, perhaps? That's up to you to decide. But what you're going to hear from here are witnesses who not only believe just that, that there are underwater bases, but they say that they were abducted by the mantis beings in U.S.Os and taken to these underwater bases. Wow. Yeah. You know, and every abduction, the abductee is extremely terrified. Yes.

But these abductions, they seem to be even more. Is it possible to be even more horrified and frightened? I caught that as well. That really struck me. You listen to their voices. Yeah, you're right. And you're going to hear their voices here because we have some regression, hypnotherapy, you regression tapes that we're going to play for you.

It's startling. It's actually kind of disturbing. It is. Yeah, we want to put that disclaimer out there. There's some disturbing audio coming up. For whatever reason, they do sound more terrified than previous abduction, like, regression audio that we played before from like the grades and things like that. So a lot to get to here with those.

Our first story about this actually takes us back to 1987 when a man named Paul Nelson. He was a child at the time. We always talk about, you know, children experiencing. abductions for whatever reason. That's where it starts. That's where he experienced his first alien abduction. And for the sake of accuracy, Paul Nelson is not his real name. So if you start to go Google everything, I can't find this guy.

That's not his real name. We don't know his real name. That's fine. He goes by that because he wants to stay anonymous when basically his story is told. So we're going to call him Paul Nelson, even though it's not his real name. According to Paul, he was in the cabin of his parents' yacht when it was docked off the coast of Catalina Island back in 1987. He was just sitting there reading some comic books with a friend.

They were, you know, just hanging out. But that's when things, you know, they started to get strange. They had just gotten on the boat and boom. They were knocked unconscious. They're all alone. There's no parents or anything. Right. And then all of a sudden...

Next thing they know, it's morning. So missing time. We're in a missing time situation. Boy, how often have we heard that, huh? Yeah. Missing time. That's always, always a comment. nominator with abduction stories, which is why you have these hypnotherapy regression sessions,

because people, they can't remember these abduction victims, they can't remember what happened. They see lights. They hear noises. Maybe they even see the alien beings themselves. And then the next thing they know, they're back in their bed. And they figure, well, what the heck just happened? Right.

So they end up having to go through all these different sessions. So missing time is a hallmark of abduction stories. So when you hear that, you know, okay, this might be. be something here. Now the years went on as Paul tried to forget this terrifying event, but how could you forget something like that? Because as he got older, he decided to confront this memory that he buried. Right. And he wanted to go through something that, you know, we've mentioned many times before and I just mentioned it now is hypnotic regression. And it actually really works. I've undergone it. You've done it, right? Yeah, that's right.

With the fame, Dr. Brian Weiss. And it's really, and you can go back in this life, you can go back in a past life. So him going from adulthood back to childhood in one life is not that big of a deal. And you, you've done, not because you were abducted by aliens, but because it was more of like a study I think you were doing for the news, right? Yeah. I was a health reporter and I was doing, regression is done to go into past lives to find out why you have ailments in this life. Interesting. Like say you drowned in a past life and you have a problem with, you don't want to go on boats or, you know, it's strange or you have a problem wearing. maybe you were strangled and you have a problem wearing tight collars, that type of thing.

Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, you know, there's a lot of debate about past lives and everything, so not to get into that too much. But it's, you went through it. I did. But during the session here with Paul Nelson, he, well, detailed reportedly what happened to him. He saw what he described as praying mantis type names, large, huge, bulbous eyes. triangular-shaped head, you know, the claw-like hands. These are deathly scary.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. God. Yeah, the screams you heard there were dramatic effect, so that wasn't actual from a regression session or anything like that. But, I mean, just the description of the mantis beings themselves. How terrifying is that? I mean, think of a praying mantis, right? Just a normal praying mantas walking on a tree branch.

But now he's six feet tall. And he's coming at you. They're weird-looking bugs anyway. Right. Yeah. And so that's kind of. kind of what Paul Nelson, you know, was describing there and what he saw during his abduction as a child. And so it's kind of biblical because they're called praying mantises because they look like they're praying.

Right. They have their hands together. And then you think of the end of time, the end of the world and the locust infestation. It's the same idea with these bugs, right? Interesting. In the Bible, right? I don't know. Because they're talking about that these mantis aliens could, they want to kill us, is what they're saying. Well, I'm glad you say that actually, Karen, because there's a reason I've known about the mantis. And I'm sure you have as well, you know, if you listen to the podcast, I'm sure this isn't your first rodeo with alien stories or theories and things like that.

So I'm sure some of you have heard of Mantis beings yourselves. And I've had the note for a long time. And I've been, I hate to use the word of freights, but maybe uncomfortable is the better word, of covering this. subject because they're, they're scary. They are. And people say the accounts from people who have, you know, kind of in contact with these things, or who have studied, you know, the idea,

the stories of these mantis beings, that they're actually malevolent creatures. They are. They're mean, like evil. So, you know, that's one of the reasons why I've been avoiding the topic. Of course, you know, aside from the fact that we're talking about giant walking bugs, so that's never fun either. Shoot, I've never even watched Starship Troopers because of that reason

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who are they, you know? Yeah. Or maybe better yet, what are they? They're actually said to come from the Andromeda Galaxy is one of the places that they come from. And like you said, you know, these tall, triangular heads, they look like praying mantises, which is why they call them mantis aliens or mantis beings,

however you want to say it. And basically, and you'll hear in some accounts here, kind of bent on destroying the human race according to the people who come in contact with them. And think about it, praying mantis, like man bugs. Man bugs, okay. They're praying manbugs. Oh, no.

They're coming after you, Karen. Oh, gosh. Yeah. But it's also possible that they could be an answer. Okay, so we're going to go a little deep here, philosophical. Maybe they're an answer rather than a question. And that these are the beings that could be piloting the U.S.Os that we've been spotted so frequently over the years in the Catalina area. Think about just in general the Tick-Tac UFO, right?

Which was a U.S.O that was caught by the U.S.O. that was caught by the USS Nimitz back in 2004. We've mentioned it a million times and throughout our 50 episodes now. It is the video. It is the holy grail of UFO videos that is used across the world when a news station talks about UFO sightings,

UAP sightings. They show that video that was taken of the fighter pilots tracking this thing and then it goes into the water. And that was off the coast of California in the San Diego area where the Nimitz was. So is it possible? that that was a mantis being piloting that tick-tac UFO that in that famous video.

I mean, when you look at the big picture, it's a possible conclusion that starts to make sense. Yeah. Especially when you start to hear more of these stories too. And actually, that takes us to our next one, story of abduction from a man named Rob Fullington. He detailed his account just last year, actually, in 2021. And it sounds eerily similar to some of the details that we've already heard from Paul Nelson and some of the things that we've been talking about here today. Yeah, and Paul Nelson's 1987 abduction.

So now, fast forward. Is there anybody there with you? Yeah. I got a... Heaven's next. I started getting sick. Constant vomiting. Maybe blood sometimes.

I have really gnawing pain in my stomach. Gosh. What do they do to them? That sounds terrible. I mean, maybe they laid eggs in them. Oh, no. That's what, I hope not. But I've never heard that before

when it comes to an abduction where you have stomach pains, vomiting, bleeding. Well, sometimes they operate on them. They go in. They open their chest. One girl you're going to hear from, they opened her up. Oh, boy. Yeah, just wait for that one.

But you heard some of those descriptions there about how terrifying these particular encounters can be. I mean, and you heard him in his regression there is kind of hard to understand because you're speaking in a, you know, a sleepy tone, like a hypnotic tone, but you probably heard them there say mantis. They look like a mantis.

So for whatever reason, those who say that they are victims of mantis abductions often have the same description of these emotionless and merciless creatures who treat them like lab experiments. Yeah. Which is interesting because if you think about, you know, like the grays, okay? Of course, we talk about them the most. They're probably the most talked about alien species in general. They're probably amongst us now.

It's very possible working in the Dulce base. If you know what we're talking about, go back to one of our first episode. Somewhere in the top five, I think, the Dolce Bay with Phil Schneider. Boy, what a story that is. Oh, blew his fingers off. Yeah. And then he talked about it and died. So, spoiler alert.

Yeah. Hello. Yeah. So if you haven't heard that one, you can go back and listen. But when it comes just, you know, different abduction stories that we've covered throughout this entire podcast. When we talk about the grays and the regression sessions that we hear from people who are abducted by them, You never really hear about them being merciless or evil even. You hear about experimentation.

Actually, you hear more that they're not evil, that they're not malevolent. Right. You know, they don't seem to have, they seem to want to be there to protect us from ourselves. Right, right. Like the nuclear, they're watching over our nuclear capabilities because they're afraid we're going to blow up the earth and the universe. Yeah, I mean, and you've heard some of the different, you know, sessions of people who are abducted, supposedly abducted by grace. and yes, they're scared in their sessions because they're seeing aliens

as they're being, you know, hypnotized back to remember what happened to them. But a lot of times people are saying that they're talking to them. These aliens are talking to them. They're trying to converse with them in their own language sometimes, sometimes telepathically. But yes, you know, of course,

there have been experiments that the grays have supposedly done in these stories that we've covered. They take an egg or two and they make a new kid. We've got an episode on the hybrids. We did a whole series on it. But for some reason, it doesn't it just feel different with these mantis abductions the way people describe them as being... Main, main, main.

And you're going to hear that even more here because the last encounter is... It's just awful. I mean, honestly, don't get me wrong. It is incredibly fascinating, okay? Which is why we're talking about it. But at the same time, it is terrible and full of horrifying details. This story takes us back to the good old days of 1992. Oh, my goodness.

Good year. I love the 90s. I'm a 90s kid. Me too. Yes. Well, I was a 90s adult. Well, that's fine, though. We all love the 90s. This story involves a woman named Kim Carlsberg.

And in this night, or on this night, I should say, in 1992, she was walking on the beaches of Malibu, as one would, who lives in Southern California. And that's when things went horribly wrong for her. Now, what you're about to hear is some of her regression sessions and taken from her, taken from her. hypnotherapist who was playing them on her behalf because Kim doesn't really like to actually do interviews from what they say. I don't blame her. So this is, it evolves. You're going to hear us a lot of different clips and it gets more and more disturbing.

So here's some of the details here as we begin Kim Carlsberg story. I'm on a beach walking. Talk of me. Huge. Right. And it scared her. I mean, she was terrified. And then blackout.

Right there in forever. And then she kind of blacks out. Yeah, and she didn't know what it was. Yeah. And so the first voice you heard there was Kim in her regression session tapes that her hypnotherapist was playing there. And the last voice you heard was her hypnotherapist talking about those sessions and what Kim was experiencing. And it's a little hard to understand again when you're listening to these regression sessions because it's like, talking in your sleep.

Yeah, because it's not real time. It's looking back. Right. And so if you didn't understand some of it, she was talking, she said she was walking the beach. She saw the bright light. And it got really big and bright. That's right. And then all of a sudden, you know, she has this missing time.

You're in your bed. And also just for reference, Kim's hypnotherapist has been in the field for over 30 years. She specializes actually in treating people who say they've been abducted by aliens. Ah, interesting. That's her thing. We should get her on the show. That would be great, actually. if we could.

But she does have a lot of experience, and she's made a career out of, you know, trying to help people who say that they've had these experiences. Now, after the blackout, the next thing that Kim remembered was being back in her bed that night, okay? Which is a normal abduction story. So she's on the beach. Right.

And then she's in her bed. And then all of a sudden she gets there. Exactly. But that's where she picks up the story. And just a warning again, what you're going to start to hear is it's pretty disturbing. but this is again is Kim in her own words during her regression session with her therapist in bed sometimes after midnight and I fall asleep but then when I wake up and I'm not

in my head with a giant room and the walls of wet I'm not alone I'm scared there's creatures staring like a bug You can stick with a huge head in the eyes. Listen. It comes closer. It touches me. Was Kim abducted by mantis aliens? Nothing did him for the mantis.

Woof. Lord. Wow. You heard her say there. She describes the mantis aliens the same way from the other descriptions. And what I... I find one of the things I find interesting, different time frames, right? We always talk about whether it's ancient times versus now, whatever.

There's always some type of different time frame. We go of 1987, 1992, but I don't think time matters in the universe. I think we're like obsessed with time on Earth. Sure. But when you take away time, you know, like when you die, I think just time stops and, you know, your soul just. It's all the same. It's all the same. Right.

We look at it as linear. Right. Yeah. But exactly. But what's interesting, though, is that even with, you know, just in the sense of time, whether it's 1987, 1992, 2021, the descriptions from different victims, so to speak, stay the same. And we can assume we don't know for sure that they don't have contact with each other. They haven't shared, swapped stories, come up with this elaborate plan to all lie together about stories that are, you know, 30 years old or more. Now, you can be a skeptic and say, yeah, this is one of big elaborate.

But that's up to you. And that's what we do. We always give you the details. You make a pure mind. But for me, I find it intriguing when you start to connect the dots that it's all different time frames. It's all different people. And they have the same description.

Why is that? Well, and when you're regressed, you don't know where you're going to go. You don't know what's going to come out of your mouth, just from my experience. And so when the same thing comes out of different people's mouths in regression, that's a telltale sign. That's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point. And you also, just to pick up on something that Kim said there on that clip, she said she was in, like, you know, I guess she described it's kind of like a cave.

She said the walls were wet. Yeah. So that tells me if you're trying to kind of piece things together, then this is just my thought process. Sounds like she's in an underwater base. If anybody's ever been in a cave, then, or have gone cave diving or anything like that. You know, it's dark. It's kind of bleak. It's a little wet sometimes because you have the water coming down.

Yeah, exactly. Or a mud wasp nest. Yes. You know, I don't know. You know, speaking of bugs, right? Right. But it sounds like to me that she's in some type of underwater cave, base, whatever you want to call it. And I wish things got better for poor Kim, but unfortunately, her terror just was beginning.

Again, it's not easy to listen to, but here you go. It puts tubes in me, hoping, and... They flamed like a lab rat. So, open me, my chest, cause me a little bit. Oh, gosh. So based on Kim's horrific description, is it possible that she was abducted by the alien species known as the mantis? This one is a praying mantis type being approximately seven foot tall, extremely smart, articulate, very manipulative. It's described as horrible, evil.

I dated that guy. The most curious of extraterrestrial races are mantis beings. They have been seen in many abduction scenarios. The mantis beings are bipedal. They stand upright. They have three-pronged fingers and feet. And their language pretty much is a series of clicks. But they are also telepathic.

They primarily come from Andromeda, Orion, and the sombrero galaxy. But they actually far reach out into the universe to places that we don't even know exist. Oh, a lot there to Iraq. I'm bipedal. Congratulations. So, yeah, a lot to unpack there. I guess that's what they sound like reportedly. I don't know.

Quoting here. obviously first we're talking about Kim's description there of her abduction not to relive it but just some of the things that she said flaying her like a lab rat she mentioned I wonder if she has scars on her physical being it does make you wonder but you know like a lot of these other witnesses or victims however you want to refer to them as they like to stay anonymous and they don't do interviews other than with their hypnotherapists or a therapist in general Yeah, but we had the one guy that had the sensor in his leg.

That's right. So, you know, there's obviously all different types of cases. But my gosh, this one just sounds absolutely awful. Yeah. And we've covered a lot of abduction cases, a lot of experimentation cases. This, to me, is the worst that we've ever talked about. The most terrifying, the most bone-chilling, the most gross, quite honestly. And I hate to put it so, you know, simply like that.

But you're talking about the seven-foot-prane mantis being fillet in this poor woman poking and prodding her organs, as she put it. It's disgusting, which is why I tried to avoid talking about this. But that said, I also felt it was important again. I don't know if it was the COVID-induced fever and body chills that maybe decide to kind of, you know, cover this extensively. But it's, it's, you know, it's an important subject. It's something that I felt we shouldn't leave out anymore. And I figured, well, let me face my fear and we'll do this for our 50th episode. Why not? There aren't any spider aliens are there because that would put me over the edge. I will never do this show again if there are spider aliens. I will retire right now. That's like

on stranger things, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no thank you on the spider aliens. But, you know, again, you can see why I've kind of tried to avoid some of this. Because I know the stories involving Mantis are not good. And well, you heard those there. But I think it leaves a lot of questions too. And we're going to do something a little bit different here, Karen. Yeah. If you're okay with that. Switch things up. Fine. Because if you're familiar with the show, you know that we normally wrap things up after the third and final story, right? That said, I don't know about you, but I still have a lot of questions.

And I feel like we should debrief here a little bit more and actually go over some questions, even theories. And, well, some of more information. Maybe we can try to tie this all together because what I find fascinating too, we talked about the area of Catalina Island, right? All these stories seem to happen around this. area of Catalina in southwest California, again, right off the coast there between Los Angeles and San Diego, roughly. And what's interesting, though, in this area, there is a mile deep trench called the Fallon Trench. And all these stories not only happen around the same area of Catalina and Southern California, but they happen around this trench.

And if we're talking about U.S.Os, again, you know, unidentified submerged or submersible objects, don't you think a mild deep trench would be a pretty good place for them to hide and possibly have underwater bases? Yeah. I mean, you'd think about it that way. And how about this? All of these stories that we've spoken about and more, because there's other sightings. These are, there's more than three.

There's been sightings reported from boaters seeing lights in the water in this area. Many sightings actually have boaters who have reported lights under the water and even seen sometimes the craft coming up from out of the water. There's been sighting some voters, saying that. I just looked up because I know San Diego is like a major military area. It is, yeah. You have North Island Naval Air Station. You have MCAS Miramar.

I guess that's the top gun, right? Yes, that's right. You have naval base San Diego. So there's a lot going on there. There is. And I know they have destroyers and ships. They have planes. They have all kinds of stuff.

And when you kind of put that all together, Karen, when you realize that all these sightings that we're talking about, all these encounters that we did mention, they all happen within a dozen miles of each other. Yeah. This is a cluster. This is a cluster of sightings and abduction encounters reportedly in the same area within 12 miles of each other.

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because when you fly with Hawaiian Airlines, it's hard to tell where your flight ends and vacation begins. Hawaii starts here. And there's actually video from that way. And I didn't even bring this up, but since we're talking about, you know, throughout the years, 1966, there's a video from 1966. Wait a minute. Video, maybe film.

Well, you know what I mean. You're such a young, young lad. There's digital video from 1966. Yeah, right. Film from 1966 showing a UAP, a UFO flying over, you know, mountains of Southern California. There you go. In that same area, though, of Catalina Islands. So this has been going on for a long time.

Basically, since people who started documenting these things, they've seen sightings of the stuff happening within this cluster of 12 miles around this trench that's a mile deep. So what is that all mean? What is with the trench? Have we sent any kind of submarine down there? Well, not that I know of. Not that it's been reporting. It makes you wonder, though, doesn't it?

What kind of do we have some type of secret investigations going on? Because what's down there? Is it bases? If so, if these mantis beings have bases down there, how long have they been there? Do they predate civilization? Yeah. You know, I mean, these are questions that I think are worth asking. I think these dudes have been around a while and they're looking at us like, God.

What are you doing? How primitive. Right. You peons you. But I guess it's worth asking or even, I'll go one step further, Karen. Okay. What if there's portals down there? Oh.

We've talked about Stargames. and portals before, right? There's supposedly, of course, to those in the, you know, according to those in the know, former CIA agents that we've spoken about in previous episodes, you could always go back and look at the, like you mean like a gates? Yeah, like a Stargate or portal, a gateway. You know, they say that there's one in Alaska, Hawaii in the Middle East.

You walk in one and then you're like in Alaska and you come out in California. Right. Yeah. So, you know, these different accounts of portals. I think we did portals and Stargates back somewhere in the 12. So you can always go back and listen Wherever we get podcasts, you know, Apple and Spotify, 850WFTL.com,

all of our episodes are still there as well. Amazon, music, I think, as well as our podcasts are there. I don't think we show up on Google. Was it Google podcasts? I don't know. We have to try to get that fixed. I've been told by some listeners

that were not there for whatever reason. But you can find us everywhere else and find all the previous episodes where we did talk about portal. So maybe those are down there. Maybe that's how these mantis beings are getting around. I don't know.

It's a mile-long trench that's unexplored. So it could be anything, I guess, right? It's not the Marianas trench. No. No, that one is a different part. I forget where the Mariana trenches. Yeah, that's seven miles deep, so they say.

But here's another thing that I found to be interesting. Actually, in connection to what you were saying, Karen, about the bases around there, there's a naval base called San Clemente. And it's right to the south of all these reported sightings. on the island there. So that's another base. Add that to the list.

Interesting. A base is a military activity that take place within that area that we're talking about of all these things happening. So what about magnetism? We've spoken a lot about magnetism before in the past, whether it was Tesla or, you know, different laylines on the earth. And used for propulsion as well. Right.

Exactly. So there is actually investigators who dove maybe about 50 feet in this area. off of Catalina Island, and they wanted to test the magnetism in this area to figure out why are we getting these different readings? Because if you actually, if you look at a topographical map, I guess you can say infrared map, you'll notice just from looking at this map that there's literally a hot spot. Like it comes up bright red off of, I think, the southwest coast of Catalina Island, where it shows a huge amount of magnetism.

Interesting. And we don't know why. So they did a little, literally a deep dive. Is it in the trench? Yes. It's right over the trench. Oh, my gosh. Now they didn't go a mile down.

It's a free dive, but they went about 50 feet. And these investigators found that when they went down there. Their compasses spun around. A lot. So much so that it's completely unexplainable. So why is that? That's like the Bermuda Triangle. Same thing.

Yes. Yes, exactly. So what was it about the compass that really kind of caught them off guard? the fact that it moved at 45 degrees. So what does that mean? Why is that important? 45 degrees. Well, to put it in context, natural anomalies spin a compass 5 degrees.

Okay. Okay. The biggest natural anomaly is a 50 billion ton iron deposit in Russia. That moves a compass 15 degrees. Not, oh. Okay. How about a lightning strike? That's natural.

18 degrees. I didn't know lightning moved a compass. It does actually. That's interesting, right? And you know that a compass is what interested Einstein into becoming, you know, the brain that he was. He was fascinated by how it would move. Right.

And show true north. Right. Yeah. And in different instances. So lightning strike is your highest occurrence, basically of natural magnetism that would move a compass. 18 degrees. A lightning strike.

1.21 gigawatts. That's Doc Brownwood saying, back to the future. So when you put that in context and you compare it to the compass that the free divers had and they go down about 50 feet over this mile deep trench off of Catalina, spins it 45 degrees? What is doing that? Yes. I mean. Why haven't we heard about this?

Where did you get this? Secrets. Oh, my God. I have my secret sources. This is so cool. But it's true. I'm not making any of this up. No.

And that's what we always do here. We give you the details. You can look it up yourself and you can decide for yourself. I'm just letting you know what's out there. Okay? And the fact is that it's an incredible amount, an unexplainable amount of magnetism that shifts the compass 45 degrees and no one knows why. Maybe that's what allows the U.S.os to go from being airborne and allows them to go into the water

and then travel from one medium to another. Very exactly what I was thinking. And it could also keep them hidden. Right. Because how much does that mess up radar? How much does that mess up tracking tools? Oh my gosh. Total scramble.

All things to consider. Yes. Oh, I love it. I'm out of breath. You should be. You did a good job. Oh, we do it together. We work together.

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We'll do it again next time. Next week when we talk about Karen doesn't even know this yet. Actually, Karen, we're going to do pre-flight, pre-Wright brothers, sightings, Encounters. Oh, I thought it meant like they were on the tarmac waiting to take off. They were the waiting in the pattern. No, we're talking. Oh, my God.

Can you imagine? Exactly. So sightings and encounters before 1903. That's where we're going to be exploring next week because how do you explain that? It's not going to be a secret military experiment if the technology didn't exist yet. So we're going to cover some of those things next time on UAP. You can keep your eye out for that next week on episode 51. But until then, it's Cameron.

Curtis there. Stephen Dean are here. Talk to again next time. Have a good one.