UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 54 New Evidence & Government Disclosures

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

There's some weird stuff going on within the US government right now as it pertains to the UFO discussion. Did they really just acknowledge "non man made" craft? And why are they now saying that the threat they pose to national security is "expanding exponentially"? Also, did we just find out that one of the most famous UFO photos of all time is the real deal? All this new information really could change everything...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So it's not like we visit another planet or galaxy or something. we know anyway. Yeah, right. Happy to be back with everyone. I got a little distracted, you know, over the past couple weeks and I'll get into the reason why they are in a second. But just before we get into everything here, I just want to say this episode is going to have a little bit of a different feel.

You know, we always go through a lot of different stories. We laugh, we cry, and then we record the podcast. That's right. A little bit of everything. And, you know, we try to give you everything that you need to know so you can kind of make up your mind of what is the deal with, you know, the story that you're presented. But I want to go over today kind of new evidence, new disclosures that have just been coming out over the past few weeks, really, and kind of dive into that to kind of ask the question,

what's happening here and why is it happening? Kind of like the timing of all this. And there is one story as well that connects to all this. So we're going to get into all that today. It's very interesting. It's the aliens think we're ready, right? Maybe. I don't know.

I don't know. So a lot to get into with that today. But before we do, Karen, I know you have a factoid. So what the heck is going on out there? Axiom space chosen by NASA to design its moonwalking space suit system for Artemis 3, the mission, to the moon. I love that we've been talking about what astronauts are going to wear when they go back onto the moon. It's so, I can't wait. It's so exciting.

And I don't know if they're going to have like a maternity version of it or if it's going to have matching shoes and handbags or what's going to happen. but it's got to be durable. What happened? The space agency says that it's slated to launch the Artemis 3 sometime in 2025 landing Americans on the moon for the first time in over 50 years. An axiom space will be required to test their suits in a space-like environment before the Artemis 3 mission. I'm just curious, you know, it sounds cool. It sounds awesome, actually. That's a nice contract for them to get.

That kind of makes their day, doesn't it? Big time. But, man, I'll tell you. amazing that we haven't been back to the moon in 50 years. And I know we've talked about a lot with the moon. We had a two-part episode on the moon. Who knows, you know, we could revisit that at some point. Don't mess with the moon. Just makes you wonder, why has it been so long? But anyway, it is nice to be back after a little hiatus there because, like I said, I got a little distracted last week when we didn't have a new episode. I've been settling in at home, kind of homeschooling

my kids. I have a seven and a five-year-old for anybody who doesn't know. Well, there you go. That explains everything. Yes. So you can imagine how that has been going from me homeschooling a seven and five year old and time got away from me to be able to prepare for a new episode. But we are happy to be back here with you today.

That said, I wanted to look at some things going on currently like we were saying in the UFO UAP community because there seems to be a lot of new bits of news almost every day at this point. I go on social media or I read an article or a blog post

or something and it's like, geez, more information. What is happening? I'm just being through all this information's being thrown at me. And that's why we dubbed this episode, New Evidence and Disclosures. And plus, it's not UAP anymore. Well, and I'm glad you said that because we did briefly mention one of these big disclosures in our last episode, which was, and I think it was in your factoid care. It was. That we found out that the government had changed the definition of UAP and UFO to include what they referred to as basically

transmedium craft and you're going to hear that term again throughout the show they can go to the air water land space space so basically right different mediums different craft that travel you know in all different types of well mediums so it's the name transm medium and they changed uAP to be what uaAP is two a's in there yeah for like air and aerospace and all these different definitions that they have now but they changed that definition which was odd in itself. You may kind of why are they doing that? So some of the things being said and written that have really caught my attention lately

are coming from people or sources who are really credible in my eyes. One of those people is Lou Elizando. Now, I'm just going to put it out there, okay, because I know that Lou can be a divisive figure in these discussions and in the UAP community because some people think that he's in it just for the attention. He's in it for himself. He kind of gets a bad rap that way, I think. Because I think that he's personally, just my opinion, okay,

I find him to be very compelling in the things that he says and testifies to. And he became a whistleblower of sorts after leaving his position just in case you're not too familiar with him when he left his position as the director of ATIP. So what is ATIP Karen? We talked about that. We did. The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. I can barely say.

which is why we just say A-Tip, which was a secret division of the Pentagon that was investigating UFOs and aliens officially from 2007 to 2012, but they say there's still some type of, you know, went on longer than that. Got it. But we've spoken about him, you know, in passing,

and we've spoken about A-TIP before on the show. So you should be familiar, at least with the name, you know, by now. But he made news a couple weeks ago. Oh. When he brought attention to the fact that the U.S. government had established a new investigative board.

And this is, Matt, you really got to, you got to look at the fine details here, the minutia as we kind of get into, it gets wordy, okay? And you really have to hear some of these words, some key words that, like, hmm, that's interesting. Right.

Because, yeah, what are they not telling us? Or why are they telling us? Ah, is even better. A little bit of both. Right. But like I said, he made news a couple weeks ago when he brought attention to the fact that the U.S. government had established a new investigative board to focus on the reports of UFOs and UAPs that could be classified,

and this is not my words, could be classified as non-human. Ah! Okay? That's right. The terms non-human, or really what they used were non-man-made, are now being implied by our very own U.S. governments, The same government that has, in our opinion anyway, covered up. I don't think they can cover it up anymore, though.

There's just too many of us running around with phones, smartphones. By the way, it's UAUP. UAUP, that's what is. Thank you. It's unidentified. It used to be UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena, but it's UAUP, unidentified aerospace under sea phenomena. Yes. Which becomes transmedian objects.

Right. Thank you. okay, I got my, I knew there's a double letter in there somewhere. You were thinking of something else like the NCAA or something. Maybe, yes, I'm a big college football fan. But anyway, but that's, I mean, just think about that for a second here. This is the same U.S. government that has really, you know, I hate to use the word cover-up because it gets, you have this connotation to it when you hear cover-up.

You immediately think, oh, conspiracy theorists, you know, tinfoil hats, oh, kooky people. But that's kind of one of the negative connotations that they want. Just like when the abbreviation UFO, that presents a negative connotation to it. So they changed it. So they changed it to UAP and now UAUP. So when you hear cover-up, it really has been a cover-up for 70 years ever since Roswell. And even before that, I mean, we've gone over different stories. In 1800s.

Sure. You know, before Roswell. Well, they put it in the newspaper. Exactly. Back then, it wasn't a stigma. Yes. So it's always been, you know, stigmatized. It's always been kept under wraps for, you know,

whether it's reasons of advancement in technology, weapons, or just the fact that they feel like the general public isn't ready to hear what's actually going on. I mean, commercial airline pilots, so many of them saw stuff, and they were sworn to secrecy. That's right. I have family members. And we talked about it. I think it was a Japanese airline flying to Alaska.

I mean, the pilot was told, if you say anything, you'll be flying a desk the rest of your career. And he did. And he never flew again. And we've talked, I forget which episode that was, but we talked about that pilot who saw mothership. Okay. I mean, he had a whole drawing of it. So it's just, this is the type of stuff that has always been covered up. It's just, let's face it.

I have to use that word. It's always been a cover up. And now, for whatever reason, they're throwing these terms out there of non-man-made. These things are being implied by the same people who have been trying to hide it all this time. Now, forget the fact that. that whatever the ship is made of, the element doesn't exist on Earth. Right. We've seen that before.

But it's not man-made. No, no, it's okay. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that it's an element we've never seen before. But now they have a new investigative department to help sort all this out. So, again, this gets kind of wordy, but just remember that the U.S. government has come out with a new investigative department to do this. Okay.

So according to sources from the hill.com and vice.com, there was an addendum to the the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023. Really? Yes. Okay. I know it's a mouthful. So it's in the budget.

It is. It's in the budget. They have put money aside. And that's a great point, Karen, they have put money aside to investigate this. That means, therefore, it exists. That's right. It's a budget that governs America's clandestine services. Okay.

Now, found that addendum that was passed by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is the directive that it wants to distinguish between UFOs that are human in origin, okay, so things that can be explained like maybe weather balloons or drones or whatever it might be, and those that are not. That's the wording, okay? Temporary non-attributed objects. TNOs. TNOs, sure.

Or those that are positively identified as man-made after analysis will be passed to appropriate offices and should not be considered under the definition as unidentified aerospace undersea phenomenon. So that's the UAU. UAUP. So that's their wording. That's in the addendum. Okay.

So in other words, to go through the legalese there, they're basically saying, hey, new department, don't waste your time on that other stuff and focus on the good stuff. Basically what they're saying. Exactly. Don't worry about the weather balloons. focus on this weird triangular or pill-shaped object that just went from outer space into the ocean. Human and origin and those that are not.

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So, I mean, it's just, it's just amazing. Are they hiring in that department? They might be. I would like to try to get a job there. You can get government benefits. But it's just... A pension. Yes.

How do you like that? But it really is something when you start to consider the wording in that addendum. You have to be able to speak other languages. I'm sure that you have to be bilingual and... Probably. Or be able to think telepathically. They might teach you. But to think that it could really imply, it does imply to me.

Maybe it doesn't, too, but does to me. That wording implies that they are investigating things that aren't manmade or can't be classified as manmade. They're funding it. Yes. They're staffing it. Right. And they're reclassifying it. That's correct.

I think therefore you're right. It sure seems that way, doesn't it? Yes. Now, in July, the Pentagon announced it was opening the all domain anomaly resolution office. Oh, no. What is that acronym? That's the AARO. Arrow.

If you're keeping score at home, we have UFO, UAP, UAUP, UAUP, TNO, M-N-A-A-R-O. Arrow. It's too much. I like it. It's too much. It is there you're right. Arrow.

So that's easy. Oh, and A-Tip, of course. Oh, you don't forget about it. But that's no longer. That's, well, so they say. Oh. I should have named this episode of abbreviations. Good gosh.

Acronims. Get a pen and paper ready. But that's the one. That's the one right there. That's the department that is investigating the so-called good stuff. They are the one that has been set aside. Government money going to this is being funded. It's part of the budget for the budget for the budget for

the fiscal year of 20, 2023, the All Domain Anomily Resolution Office. So forget about everything else that's going on, inflation, fuel shortages, high gas prices. This is the only thing you need to be worried about. It's pretty interesting. Is this government agency, because this is all that matters. It's, I mean, when you look at the big picture. Yeah, if you look at 50,000 feet, what really matters? I mean, you know, obviously all those other things you mentioned are very concerning to everyday people.

and, you know, everyday matters, but this stuff is a big deal. It's a huge deal. I'm so glad you brought it to light. Look at that, right? Now, if that wasn't enough of a development, Karen, try this one on for size. You ready? Yes. Accompanying that same addendum that implies the admission and existence of non-manmade craft

is an attached report that says that they believe that objects of unknown origin are demonstrating remarkably advanced technology. Okay, I'm going to, let me, let me, I'm going to go slower on this, because, this is just wild. This is a report. Okay, these are not my words. This is a report that is attached to the addendum, okay? From the United States government. Correct. All right. Objects of unknown origin are demonstrating remarkably advanced technology by moving seamlessly between space, air, and water. And it notes that, and here's the word, transmedium threats. Threats. Okay? That's a quote from this report. Transmedium threats to United States national security are expanding exponentially.

Okay. Their words not mine. Unpacked that because, so if they're telling us this now, that means something's already happened. You would think so. I think so. That either threatened our security or compromised something or actually took something out and they didn't tell us about it.

They're not, they're not, the government's not one to one. warn us about something that may happen. They're like, you know. It's very possible. They don't, yeah. I mean, listen, we've talked about. They don't get ahead of themselves. Right, exactly.

They're usually reactionary. Yes. I mean, let's face it. And that's what goes for all governments. Yeah. Nothing against government. It's just that they don't, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

It took them until 2022 to tell us that, you know, this thing off of San Diego was a UFO. Right. Because they had video of it. Yeah, the Ticktack video. Radar video. So, I mean. I mean, when you really consider all that, it really, you know, that's, that's something that really makes you say, what do they know or what has already happened. Like you said, Karen, or even look back to different stories we talked about, Malcham Air Force Base, right?

Well, it was that in 1967, I think off the top of my head, the day the nukes went dead. One of our first episodes where we talked about. Something was above the facility. That's right. And all the nukes went offline. The entire facility that housed nuclear weapons, nuclear missiles in the 60s was taken offline and we were totally defenseless. And makes you wonder what's going on with Ukraine with that nuclear power plant because Russia's

been shelling it. And the aliens, basically what we understand are trying to protect us from ourselves and from blowing up the earth and then also like destroying the universe. It's a theory. It's a working theory. But no, you're right. And these are things that's maybe they're just taking things like that more seriously now, or something else has happened that they're not telling us.

Because to use a term like transmedium threats to United States national security are expanding exponentially. They don't just write that in there for fun. No. So take that for what it's worth. But why is it not mainstream, though? Of course not. This seems like this is the biggest story that's out there. Well, here we are in episode 54, new disclosures.

Wow. Why we're doing it. And they thought that we wouldn't notice something like. that, right? They just threw all this in that their little reports and addendums. We told you about it back in 2022. Like we wouldn't notice that you pull a fast one on us. So look, we're going to continue to keep an eye on these things. You know, as always, we'll keep you up to date on some of the latest things going on as well as going through some of, you know, other stories you've never heard about, which we're going to get into right the second.

But I felt it important to bring up these current things that are going on because these are big changes in the ways that, you know, at least the U.S. governments is, I guess, presenting or approaching this phenomenon that we haven't seen before. So our next story actually brings us new disclosure on something that is 32 years old. Okay. So the evidence might be old, but the confirmation is definitely new. This is the story of what is considered to be one of the most famous UFO photos ever taken. It's the Calvin UFO. And if you're one of our listeners in the UK, you're probably very familiar with this. Which, by the way, shout out to our UK listeners.

Yes, hello. Love all you out there. We had somebody write us on Twitter recently at UA Podcast 850, where you can find the show on Twitter at UA Podcast 850. They said they were binging the show. They're in the UK. They love you. They tolerate me, but they love you.

Bloody wonderful of you. Listen, as we record this, we are waiting to hear about the queen. So God save the queen. Yes, all the best there. But this one happens in the Scottish Highlands, actually. Okay. So the story of the Calvin UFO. It begins in August of 1990 when two men went for a hike in the Scottish Highlands.

They like to hike there, don't they? Sure, why not? It's beautiful. And as they were walking, yeah, so I've heard. I've never been. I've always wanted to go. But as they were walking, they noticed something unbelievable in the sky. It was a 100-foot diamond-shaped UFO, or so they described it as.

gliding through the air as they began to snap some pictures with the camera that they luckily had with them Hey, because back then they didn't have smartphone. Exactly. I mean, you had to have a camera around your neck or in your pocket or something. I bet it was a brownie. I hope it was.

But whatever it was, they had it with them. Or it could have been like the the Solof Firth Man. Oh, the Solway Firth. Yes. Yes. Soilway Frith Spaceman. What did he take with the picture of? He had an old panoramic camera with Kodak filming it.

Codec film. Yes. So maybe it was something along the same lines. I don't know. But I love that story. If you've never heard that one, we did that episode as well. Go all the way back.

Taking a picture of his daughter in a field and there's like a space guy behind her. It's crazy. To this day, one of them, it's one of the biggest unsolved mysteries in UFO history. I mean, the Solway for the spaceman. You can go back and check that out on our previous episodes there.

I think it's back in like maybe one of the first 10 episodes somewhere in there, if I remember correctly. This is the same idea. Same idea. Yeah. Right. So they take this picture, okay, and a fighter jet came out of nowhere as they're taking this picture. So they weren't trying to get a picture of a fighter jet and a UFO.

It just so happened. And as they were taking the picture, this thing comes flying into the frame. So they have the fighter jet and the UFO in the shot? Oh, my God. It's chasing the UFO. Holy smokes. And that's when they took one of their photographs that's been disputed for over 30 years now. And this photo, if you haven't seen it, if you're not familiar with the Calvin,

UFO. It is going to be on our page 850wFTL.com. If you search on the podcast tab, you'll see UAP. Click on that and you'll find our blog page and we'll have up there some pictures, videos that show the picture anyway of the Calvin UFO

if you've never seen this thing. It's remarkable. It really is. It's a clear picture. As clear of a picture you'll see from a Polaroid from 1990, you know, it's great. And it doesn't look like it's been Photoshop. like a Kardashian Instagram post.

No, nothing like that. Nothing like that. No Photoshop, no tampering. Or so that was, but that was the dispute. People didn't know was this some type of fake photo because you see this perfectly shaped, diamond-shaped UFO, indisputable when you see the picture. And then you see this jet under it, chasing it. So it's a very clear picture. The picture itself, there's no dispute about what you see.

The dispute was whether or not it was a real picture or whether it was fabricated. So they have this amazing shot, right? Before they could get any more photos, this giant UFO sped off out of sight, which is really a classic case of instantaneous acceleration, right? We always hear about that and some more famous UFO sightings. That's one of the main characteristics, I guess, you could say. And they make no sound. That's the other thing.

Right. Is that, you know, we've got these jets with jet engines and propulsion and you hear them. Yeah. So I'm looking at the. photo. It looks like it's black and, oh, it was color. It was, yeah. Okay. So you have that picture in front of you right now. Yeah.

So, no, but you're right. I mean, that instantaneous acceleration is one of the, the hallmarks of a, really a credible UFO sighting. You know, there's no sound. They just go. They just go back up in the air. They just, yeah, without a trace. Disappear. So you're saying this photo just was released after 30 years? So, well, not quite. So here's the thing. This photo was circulating.

Okay. And that's what happened afterwards because they tried to get the picture circulated in the local newspaper and they got it out there. But after it went out, it caused all this hubbub and speculation as to whether this was the real deal. Because if it could be proven or if it could be proven to do so or be so, then it would be the clearest photo of a UFO ever taken. It's really amazing. Yeah, it was disputed for so long since 1990 really. But the question was, was it fabricated or was it real after it got circulated? Well, guess what?

Fast forward 32 years to just about a week ago when an 83-year-old retired Royal Air Force, the RAF. No. Yes. An officer. He's the guy in the plane? No. Oh. No.

That would be huge. That would be amazing. He worked for the British Ministry of Defense. Oh. And he came out to a reporter from the Daily Mail in the UK. Love that publication, by the way. We, oh, my gosh. You guys are the Daily Mail.

cover our stuff over here more carefully and more correctly than our media. That's right. I can't tell you how many times we go on there to see what's really going on. Absolutely. It's how we find out what's happening. But the Daily Mail went after, well, not what after, but they sought this retired officer out to see if he still had the copy of the photo because they heard that he did. And guess what? He had it. So this 83-year-old retired officer has the original copy of this photo that the Ministry of Defense kept. Because it turns out they were investigating this thing.

So they showed up at these hikers' door and said, we need your photo after it showed up in the local paper? Yeah, they got their hands on it. I'm sure they did. Yes. And so they tried at that point, just like the U.S. government would do, they put through the men in black. The men in black, and they try the disinformation campaign,

and they tried to kind of put you down as, oh, you're just a crazy person and things like that. So make people believe that it's not a real photo. Well, guess what? It was a real photo because this 83-year-old retired officer had it from the Ministry of Defense in Britain, and he kept it all this time. They had the photo, and it was a real photo, and they were investigating it for decades. I would have liked it if he had the negative. Yes. But he has the photo.

Yes. That's all right. But this photo was actually taken. The negative was probably still at the Photoshop. Yeah, probably. The photomat. So you can make it what you will. Again, we have the photo.

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It's like a saucer with a pointy top and a pointy bottom. Okay. I mean, it's not very aerodynamic, but... Well, apparently it went fast enough. And I don't see any windows in it. No, no windows. Just flying along. Huh.

Pretty wild photo. So we'll tweet that out as well for you. You can check it out on the UAP Twitter. But it is an incredible revelation from this 83-year-old officer who gave us something that we thought we'd never get, which is confirmation of a 32-year-old debate. That's a marquee shape. Case you don't know your diamonds.

Ah, thank you, Garon. You're what? Since you're wearing one on your finger. We now, but it's true, we now know that the Calvin UFO photo is, in fact, the real deal. Yeah. And that the Ministry of Defense in Britain had been actively investigating this thing. It's, it's pretty wild. And that was a big deal because, you know, again, this kind of all connects.

I know it's an older story. It was an older mystery debate, if you will. But there's new disclosure on this and it's been accepted as a real photo. So what is it? Since we know the photo is real now, what the heck is it? What is this jet chasing and what is the craft? And why didn't you let me know about it before today? Because it's amazing.

Pretty fascinating, right? Whoa. It is wild. I mean, and the fact, the thing that gets me is that when you know that you're looking at a real photo. Yes. And then the question just becomes, okay, so since this is a real photograph I'm looking at, then what am I looking at? Is it a military experiment?

Was it a Russian military experiment? a U.S. military experiment that took off from a U.K. base, a British military experiment, or was it something that is completely unexplainable, an aircraft from a different world? The other thing about it has no lights, no flashing, no blue aura, no nothing. It looks like a rock. Well, it's funny you say that because another thing that made this picture unique

and this sighting was that it was during the day. Right. You know, so many times we hear about the sightings that are at night. You hear, oh, I saw the light in the sky And then the light took off and it disappeared This was as clear as day literally Clear as day Picture of a UFO flying through the sky

With a jet plane chasing it It is, it's amazing So you make it what you will On our Twitter, you can check it out again It's at UA Podcast 850 We'll tweet it out And it's on 850WWFTL.com Under the UAPP podcast tab

It's incredible, right? It is Now, all that being said, Karen my question to you on this day of episode 54 of you AP after hearing all of these new revelations my question to you is why now right we asked that we kind of brought that up in the beginning why now why are we finding out things

that would have been and have been covered up in the past things like Congress changing the definition of UFO to include a non-human category things like the existence of a new investigative department to look at things that can't be classified as human craft Or better yet, that the U.S. government feels that the UAP threat to national security is expanding, quote, exponentially. They never say the quiet part out loud. What's happening? Right. Exactly. That's exactly it.

So, again, those are their words, not mine, increasing exponentially. Is there something more to this? Is there, like you said, they never say the quiet part out loud. Is there something that they're not revealing? Are they laying some type of groundwork? Yes. You know? I think so.

Well, because they know already something that they're not saying out loud. It feels that way. You know what I mean? They're just trying to ease us into it. It does kind of feel that way. Because if you listen to some of those in the know, like this man here, Christopher Mellon, who is the former deputy. Okay, so listen to this title. Okay.

I want to make sure I get this right. He has a huge business card. Yes, he does. He's the former deputy assistant, secretary of defense for intelligence, United States. and former minority staff director for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. He was just kind of important, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kind of came across from classified information in his time working for the government.

His LinkedIn page is out of this world. Yeah, so this is somebody who's in the know. Yeah. And he came out just last week, as of this recording, on September 1st. And this is what he said. I'm already aware of a number of individuals who claim they will testify to the existence of recovered alien technology or are considering doing so. That's a direct quote from Christopher Mellon on September 1st, 2022.

He's saying he's aware of basically of new whistleblowers that are ready to come out and testify that aliens are real and we know what the technology is and we have it. So Bob Lazar is just some schmow. And that's funny you say that because we've spoken about Bob Lazar before. We did a whole episode on him and he was another guy who they tried to discredit. Basically, a racist existence. Yes. And if that's something that Christopher Mellon is saying now, that confirms, that vindicates someone like Bob Lazar, who's been saying that right there where he came out and talked about the alien technology that we've been working on trying to reverse engineer that he was a part of to try to reverse engineer.

He's been saying that for 30 years, 30 plus years. And everyone called him crazy. But here we are. It's really something. Now, if that doesn't do it for you, Karen, maybe this guy will. This will, I think, catch your attention. How about this guy? He is, well, you know what, I'm not even going to tell you who he is.

I think I'm just going to say he's from NASA. So here's what he had to say. Here's NASA guy. I think we're going to be able to answer, are we alone? And I think we're not very far away from finding that answer. So, pretty interesting. statement, right? I don't think we're alone already, so...

And for him to say that, so who is him? Okay. Who is that? That was the former chief scientist. Chief scientist at NASA. And his name is Dr. James Green. And he said that just a few months ago back on April 20th of this year. Wow, we are not alone.

Well, according to him, he says we're going to find out pretty soon. Now, what is soon? A year, five years, 10 years, 20 years is another generation. I don't know. for a chief scientist, or I should say former, to be exact, of NASA to come out and say something like that is astonishing. And even NASA, as a government agency, has been more open about the discussion of aliens and UFOs and researching these things. Now, we had our NASA chief scientist there. And then there's this guy.

This is Gary Nolan. He's a professor at Stanford. And what he says here, really, in my opinion, you can't say it any more clearly than this. When you say the government's been involved in a cover-up, do you think they've been concealing? Oh, yes. I know it for a fact. I mean, I just know that. Why do you know that?

Because I've spoken to the people who are about to come out and whistleblow on it. Wow. So you know what's coming. Yeah. Well, there you go. Again, a current professor at Stanford. And apparently he's in the know about people. Let's call him.

Yeah, maybe. He knows what's coming. I want to know. Yeah, let's try to find him. Look him up in the white page. they're current. So we try to get Gary Nolan on the show. But it's a very interesting statement. So now you have Christopher Mellon, right? And I won't go through his titles again. I already said them. He's saying he knows whistleblowers are ready to come out. You have this Stanford professor

who's saying he knows whistleblowers are ready to come out. And he knows what they know and that there is cover-ups and everything that basically that we've been speculating on this show for the past year is true. Okay. That's essentially what he's saying there. And maybe we're going to get confirmation soon. It's interesting to think about, that's for sure. Could you imagine one day there's a press conference and somebody has and just comes out with all this knowledge? Or he brings a gray in with him? Oh my gosh.

And just bring him up on stage at the podium? Yes. That would be wild. So is it possible that we could be seeing the start of a new era? I think so. Right? Yes. And it feels that way.

Because just in the way that the UAP phenomenon is presented. Yeah. The whole stigma, the whole feel of it has changed. And I know we don't have disclosure. yet. Well, as you're slogging through your mundane life, know that this is actually what's really going on. All this is going on behind the scenes.

Yeah. Even though we don't have that full disclosure that we all crave, this could be their way of, you know, like we said, laying in the groundwork. They're foaming the runway for the crash landing of a massive UFO. And maybe they're getting people ready for what some of these possible whistleblowers that, you know, have these new disclosures are ready to come out and say. Maybe they're trying to get ahead of it. I don't know.

Maybe that's why they feel differently about the way that it's being presented and how they try to now erase the stigma and say they have all these investigative studies going on. It's incredible to shift in just a couple of years. And Space Force. Yeah. Right? But it just seems like now they're funding it. They can't have something come out and say, well, we're not even prepared. Right, right, right.

You know what I mean? The money is on the books. They have to prepare for it and then they'll let it out. Right. So, which maybe that's what's happened. To me, if I had to figure this out, if I had to say what's happening, that would be my theory. That they're basically, like you said, phone me the runway and getting people ready for what they already know. Yep.

Maybe we're wrong, but that's just... I don't know. I mean... It certainly makes you wonder why now, why... It seems like it's ramping up more and more every day. Yes. When it comes to the talk and disclosures, so... And you know what?

I'm not scared. I'm not afraid. No, I'm excited. I'm encouraged. I welcome it. Yeah. But we'll see what happens. Let you make up your own mind

and what all this can mean, all these new disclosures and the way that it's, you know, being an approach and presenting now, you can make up your mind on that. So hopefully you enjoyed the new disclosures

that we found out here today. My mind is blown. Yes, the Calvin UFO. Again, that's, I love that picture. I love that story. So you can check that out on our blog,

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It's Stephen Deener right here. We'll talk to you on episode 55 of UAP. Double Nichols. When we talk about what happens some lost battles between UFOs and warplanes. There's some battles that we don't know about and it has not ended well. Really fascinating stories

that I'm pretty sure you've never heard before. Untold battle stories next time on UAP. But until then, have a good one.