UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 57 "Northern Lights" part 2 - Canadian Hotspots

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

In part 2 of our "Northern Lights" series, we explore the wilderness of Canada in some of the most odd and chilling stories we have covered to date. Imagine watching someone get sucked up by a cube shaped UFO! And we try to unravel the mystery that is known as the Falcon Lake Incident...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm fine. Thank you so much. Before we get started, I wanted to bring up a guy in the Philippines who shouted out to us. And he apparently loves UAP. Oh. Yes. That's good. Yeah.

We found one. Apparently we had a little glit. glitch on Spotify. Yeah. So everything's been rectified, I guess. Everything's back to normal. But I'm going to just chalk it up to an alien blip. I think it was.

I think the aliens were trying to... They're like, man, these guys are accurate. They were trying to stop us. They didn't like what we were saying. But yeah, no, shout out to... I think it's... And I hate to say anybody's name wrong, but I have Matthias. Yeah.

So he shouted us out and let us know there was something wrong. with the show on Spotify. And he wasn't, I had noticed it as well. And maybe, you know, you as well noticed it for anybody listening. There was like duplicates and triple episodes of stuff we had already done. There was a weird glitch in the system. We had to get with our parent company to look into it. And they got it.

There was something wrong with the coding, long story short. Really? Oh. Techy stuff. But they fixed it. So hopefully you're not seeing that weird glitch anymore. If you are, let us know. But thank you to Matthias there in the Philippines.

Yeah. You know, a lot of people on his end who just follow him on social media, so we appreciate anybody who listens to the show. He's got a check mark. Spread it out. Yes. He does have a check mark. Very impressive.

I know. Spread it out. If you like the show, spread it out so other people can enjoy it as well. But this is episode 57 is Northern Lights Part 2, Karen. I love when we have multiple parts. Good. Yes. Good.

I'm glad. I get nervous sometimes about the multiple parts series episodes that we're we do just because I don't want anybody to get bored on the same subject, but I feel like we switch it up even in the, you know, the series that have multiple parts in it, because this is Canadian hotspots. And I think you're going to- And it's all in Manitoba. Right, you're going to notice that. It's, I didn't mean to do that. I wanted to spread the wealth. Canada is a very big, beautiful country. And, well, I shouldn't say unfortunately, but just out of circumstance, all every story we end up covering here is in Manitoba for whatever reason.

but we'll give you some other stats about Canada in general. But before we do that and get into some of these stories, because it's one guy that we're going to talk about today as one of the craziest encounters I've ever heard. It's kind of sad, too. I'll be honest. It's just the end result, but we'll get to that. Does he die?

No, no, he didn't die. Is he maimed? A little bit. No. So we'll get to that. That's really quite a fascinating story. and he had a big interview about it too, so you're going to get to hear from him during the story itself.

But before we get into all that here today, Karen, you have a factoid. I do. You always do. What do you got there today? Well, you know, this dart. What does that stand for? It's an acronym for? Double asteroid redirection test.

Okay. And I am convinced real quick, by the way, that NASA came up to their scientists or whoever names these things and said, listen, we're calling this project Dart. We know it's called Dart because we're shooting something in an asteroid. Think of something that can fit into the acronym DART. So I'm pretty sure they worked backwards. Yeah. That's how I like to do it.

Yeah. They reverse engineered DART. How could you not want to name it DART? Oh my God, it's so good. So they say their spacecraft. Didn't it goes like 7 million miles? It was pretty far out there. And I don't know if that's light years or what the heck.

But they intentionally slammed it into an asteroid. Well, it was successful and it changed the course. It's fascinating, really. Of the asteroid. So we now know that they will be able to do that in, a real world situation if something's coming at us but I do understand that they need to

have a head start. Okay. It's not something they can do instantaneously like there's an asteroid about to hit us. No, you have to send it out like months ahead of time or years ahead of time. Yeah, it's something... So I don't know. It is fascinating though. I mean the math

on how that works and how they're able to figure out okay, this object in space that's moving 20,000 miles per hour. We have to hit this object that will hit that object that's I don't know how they do it no well here here's the NASA administrator Bill Nelson it was expected to be a huge success if it only slowed the orbit by about 10 minutes but it actually slowed it by 32 minutes oh wow how does something like that yeah how do they time that they got like a stopwatch up there or amazing you know why it's loaded no because of the

thrust even 7.6 million pounds of thrust. I'm sorry. He's talking to his wife. Oh, no, no, no, no. Help me. Future mission will visit the double asteroid system to study further the impact area.

It's just the way he says that. I know. You want to hear it again? Sure. 7.6 million pounds of thrust. All right, I'm sorry. I know we're being silly. I'm sorry.

So that's Bill Nelson, the director of NASA. An incredible successful test there for the Dart Mission. Getting back on to subject here, the amount of, get this, okay, just as far as stats go for UFO sightings since it's Canadian hotspots, the amount of UFO sightings in Canada has been increasing year over year. According to the 2002 Canadian UFO survey published by UFO UFology Research in Manitoba and Toronto had the largest number of sightings with 34, followed by Vancouver with 31, and British Columbia with 25. Then on July 15, 2018, a Canadian news site mentioned that a new study conducted by the uphology research in Manitoba, formerly known as they took off the Manitoba name. It doesn't have that on there anymore. They now say that there's more than 1,000 UFO sightings reported in Canada back in 2017. And that number has continued to grow every single year up until now.

Here we are in October of 2022 when this episode is being made. So the question begs, why? Why is Canada becoming this hot spot? The last time we spoke on episode 56, which was part one of our Northern Light series, it was all about some rarely mentioned UFO sightings in the most northern parts of the United States. Some really fascinating. I mean, I thought anyway, thought provoking stuff, in case you missed it, you can go back to episode 56 and listen to part one. But now it's time to move even further north.

as we explore some of the most unexplainable and inconceivable sightings in what we're calling Canadian hotspots. So I want to point out Manitoba. Yes. I just looked it up. Beautiful part of the world. Central part of Canada. Yeah. It's right on Lake Winnipeg.

Right. And it's just kind of like southwest of Hudson Bay. Okay. So I wonder. It's a huge province. It really is. It goes very far north. Yeah.

I wonder if there are any. of those, what are the U.S.Os? There could be, and actually... Because there might be that I'm thinking, why is Manitoba such a hotspot? Because you got Hudson Bay and Lake Winnipeg. Why do you say that, Karen? Because our first story takes us to what could be considered

really one of the earliest sightings in recorded modern history and the earliest siting in Canadian history as far as something that was recorded. In Manitoba, there has been over... 200 or 2,000 sightings alone in the past 200 years. And this one dates back to 1792. No, see, Cuba or Cuba.

Canada and the United States weren't there because Christopher Columbus didn't find it until that year. No, no, no, they were still there. That's when two explorers named David Thompson and Andrew Davy. They reported seeing something that they just could not explain. I mean, it's hard for us to explain unidentified lights and sightings in 2020. Imagine trying to explain it in 1792 when there was nothing flying in the sky. So David and Andrew were already on the continent? They were in Manitoba.

They were explorers. Who's this guy? They're doing their thing. Now, this guy here is a famed Canadian UFO researcher. He's done a lot with Canadian research into the UFO and UMP phenomenon. His name is Chris Rutkowski. And he explains a little bit more about this story dating back to 1792 right here. David Thompson was in an area that was now around thicket portage in 1792, and it was winter when they said that they had seen a mass of gelatinous luminosity moving through the air, and it actually approached them.

And when it was in a few hundred feet of them, it dropped to the surface of the lake and vanished from sight. So gelatinous luminosity, isn't that ectoplasm? It sounds kind of like it, doesn't it? Because I can tell you that. That is a definition, not a definition, but an explanation. I have never heard before in a UFO sighting. That's new to me from a witness account. But there is a little bit more detail here to this story.

It actually comes straight from David Thompson's diary. So it reads this. Basically how he and his traveling companion Davy were surprised on the nights that we're talking about here by what they called a brilliant. meteor of globular form. And they say that it appeared larger than the moon. And it struck the river ice with a sound like a mass of jelly. There is your gelatinous description there.

And they said it was dashed into innumerable luminous pieces. And it instantly expired. Then the diary says, The next morning we went to see what marks this meteor had made on the ice. Because here they're talking about it as a meteor. They're referring to it as a meteor in the diary. And they say that they could not discover a single particle was even marked. That's weird.

There was no signs of an impact anywhere. Maybe it became a USO, a submerged somewhere. Which is why I found it interesting. You asked that question about USOs, given the bodies of water. There wouldn't be any trace. There was nothing there. How did it go through the ice? If it's, okay.

I think they changed their molecular structure. It could have. In the gelatinous luminosity. I mean, honestly, that explains what they saw. saw. And why there's nothing there. It made itself into this jelly-like form to maybe get through the ice into the water.

I've never heard of that before. And these guys, these explorers aren't explaining what, trying their best to explain what they're seeing back in 1792. They went viral their diary did. Oh, that's right, yes. It was a big hit in the Manitoba newspaper I guess, I don't know. But

you think about this if it's a meteor, which is the most sensible explanation. I mean, that's what David Thompson wrote in his diary that they saw this meteor, but they went back and there's no impact. So how can it be a meteor? And this is probably what they were confused about the rest of their lives. How can it be a meteor without an impact crater? Where is any sign of fragments of the rock?

There's nothing there. How is that possible? I also like the fact that there's two of them. Right. So it's not just one drunk guy in the middle of Manitoba. It's two guys and they saw the same thing. And we had a similar story, actually, on part one last week. I think her name was Annie Talon, and I'm just going based off memory from the last episode,

where she talked about going through the Black Hills area of the Dakotas, and her traveling party saw this, basically what they're talking about, almost like this thing streaking across the sky, made a loud noise. And we thought, well, it could be a meteor, but they had the same experience. They never found any type of impact site. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world, and 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. from household names like Death Wish Coffee,

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So I don't know. It sounds like the aliens have made advancements as well. Yeah, really? From gelatinous luminosity to, you know, actually. Bishops. It's very strange. It's a strange one. It would be easy to explain if they had found a crater somewhere, but there's no sign of

a crash. And then they're questioning themselves. Yeah, you know. Well, maybe we just imagined it. You decide on that one. Now this next one sounds like the plot for some type of sci-fi horror movie, to be honest with you. But according to multiple witnesses, again, this is a multiple witness account. What you're about to hear actually happened, okay?

Oh, my God. To begin, we fast forward a couple of hundred years from 1792 all the way up to 1967. That's when a cube-shaped UFO. Cube-shaped. That's unusual. Also a new thing. Not very aerodynamic. No, no.

It's like that stupid car was at the edge. I know what you're talking about. Oh, my God. If anybody drives the cube car, we apologize. But they're saying that this close encounter happened on June 30th, 1967, according to the documentation. It was in a rural town called Thompson, believe it or not, in Manitoba. And I did find it interesting how this name of this town had the same name of the explorer

we were just talking about in our past story. Yeah. But they actually, I looked it up, they sure no relation. Okay. It was just kind of a coincidence that's... Because you knew I would ask. Yes, that's right. I was one year myself.

David and Andrew. Yeah. I just found it fascinating. This explorer named David Thompson, and then there's this town called Thompson, Manitoba, but no relation to the explorer. But it happened with the same name. Weird.

That said, imagine you're outside in front of your house, okay? You're just watching your kids play. Them and their friends are playing. Everything's normal. Until a giant cube-shaped you have. Oh. And it starts to abduct one of your kids. What?

The hell is this. This is bananas. Now we bring back our Canadian UFO expert, Chris Rutkowski. And he goes into detail a little bit more on this one. As they were playing, this wind came up and this object appeared in the sky. And one of the girls who was closest to it started being sucked up into the sky by this whatever it was. And they actually had to grab her legs and pull her. back down to the ground to keep her from flying off and being abducted by a flying cube.

What? Now, here's the part that gets me, okay? If that wasn't enough, it was witnessed by the girl's parents, along with the other kids who were there. They were there the ones who had to pull her down. Yeah. This girl is floating into the air right above their heads. Yeah, I don't, there's no explanation.

Well, Rakowski had some final thoughts on it here. So I'd have to rank that fairly high up on the strange factor. I'd say. I mean, that's the best we can do. The strangenometers pegging. Yeah. And this isn't, you know, some random time in prehistoric history. This is 1967.

Right. Okay, there's records of this. There's witnesses. I was five. I saw it. No. Well, I mean, that's what those kids. I mean, they were little kids and they're still alive.

I wonder what they have to say about it. I couldn't find any interviews with them. But it's a wild story. It is. And a cubit UFO. Why? How is that? So strange. Usually they're what pill shaped or you've got the triangular shaped.

Sure. You've got the saucer. Classic saucer, the cigar, cigarette type thing, you know, the elongated UFO. I've ever heard of a square one. A cube. So again, take that for what it's worth. But just I can't help but to put myself in that position having young kids myself. I mean, I just imagine myself being in the front yard or in the backyard or a plain tag or something.

And then a giant cube comes from the sky and starts trying to suck one of my kids up into this. the air. Whoa. And just out of reaction, you had to pull on them to bring them back down to earth and then it flies away. And it makes you wonder how many other encounters there have been but haven't been documented. Yeah. These are just the ones that are documented. Right. Right. I mean, imagine all the other ones that people don't talk about and are lost to history. So I don't know. And you asked the question, Karen, why so much of Manitoba? Yeah, what's up with that? There was, there's actually a nickel mine in Thompson, Manitoba. where this cube UFO was seen and almost they had this near-abduction case.

And actually, Manitoba itself is one of the biggest sources for nickel. And this area of Manitoba by Thompson is very well known, I suppose, for having a big deposit of nickel where they can do a lot of mining for the element. Is, I don't know, is nickel conductive? I'm not sure. I think of it is gold, I'd be more interested, but nickel. I don't know what to make out of that. I know. I don't know. It's an element, but...

I don't know if, you know, otherworldly beings would use nickel for some type of fuel or conductor or power. What if they're like this... It's an awesome source of power and we haven't, like, figured it out yet. I really, yeah, I mean, it's not... Could be. I don't know what to make of the fact that Thompson is one of the biggest nickel reserves in the world. I just know that it does, and that's where this stuff is taking place. I don't know if that's a coincidence. So just want to be. to throw that out there. But let's go ahead and give you some context here before we dive into our last story for today because this following encounter here, and I know you might be thinking, wow, those were kind of

quick. And I wanted to, I did that on purpose because I wanted to leave enough time for this final story. Oh, boy. It's so detailed and so mysterious that it actually appeared on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries back in the day. Remember that show, Robert Stack? Oh, I loved it. That show, side note, used to scare the crap out of me. when I was a kid.

The creepy music and Robert Stack when I talked with deep voice. He was so good at that. Yeah. And it was a great show. But some considered this to be one of Canada's most famous sightings, actually. And it was so famous.

Get this. Not only was it on Unsolved Mysteries, but they even minted a coin to commemorate it. Was it a nickel? No, it wasn't. I didn't know they had this in Canada, but it was a $20 coin.

Oh, $20 coin. I didn't know that was a thing. It came back. It came out back in. Oh, it was like a sacagia. Yeah, those are dollar coins here in America. The $20 coin commemorating this story we're about to talk about came back in 2018, and the entire thing remains a mystery to this day.

Really? This whole story. They can't pinpoint exactly what happened. Another cool fact about that coin, by the way, real quick, it glows in the dark. What? I know. I guess they felt. Is it gelatinous luminosity?

I don't think it's gelatinous luminosity, but it does glow in the dark. Did you look up the mineral rights for Manitoba and who owns them? Does it say like... I didn't go that deep. I'm sorry. We can Google after the episode of here. What are some alien names? Oh, I know.

What? That guy in the middle of Venus. Oh, well, Valian Thor. Vali and Thor owns the middle rights. There you go. Yeah, we did a whole episode on him. But this one here, this story that we're going to talk about, is referred to as the Falcon Lake Incident.

I love nature. I love birds, animals. And also, I have interest. Nature saw rocks and this and that. Every weekend, in the long weekend, I usually travel, go to the out in the country and snooping in the rocks. Okay, so. Snooping in the rocks? That voice you heard was Stephen McAulik, who liked to snoop in the rocks.

He was kind of an amateur geologist, if you will. And this experience that he had is kind of thought about really as a Roswell type of experience, in Canadian UFO lore. I mean, it's unexplainable. There's evidence, and you'll hear it. It's a very strange story. So on May 20th, 1967, Stephen McKaylick was just out doing what he was talking about. He enjoyed nature.

He liked going through the rocks, searching through, breaking them. He would go out with his thick gloves and welder glasses to protect from the shards of rock flying into his eye. He was all set. He was prepared. He had his snooping gear on. Yeah, he was ready to go. he was doing his thing. And he was out in Falcon Lake in Minnettoba,

which just for geography sake, oh, Falcon Lake. It sits about 100 miles east of Winnipeg. So Winnipeg is in southern Manitoba. So you're talking, that's kind of the area here. So he was just minding his own business. He's doing his geology thing. When he started to hear a commotion down below,

that's when he decided to go check it out. What was happening? He saw birds flying. There was a lot of noise going on. So he's like, you know, let me see what's, going on here. Here's our snooper. Looking on the tree, I notice a two cigarette

like shape thinks with the hump in the middle. What the hell is that? One stay in the air and the other one is coming down, down, down. Beyond down. What the hell

was that? What the hell was that? That's what I'd be thinking too. You got the cigarette shape now. But this is the same year is the square thing. I'm glad you caught that. And not only is it the same year, but what? We're saying May 20th, 1967. Right. And then in the one that we were just talking about with the cube, it was June 30th, 1967. This is a month before. We're a month apart here. Yeah. From two incredible sighting cases. What the hell? In Canadian history. So I'm glad you caught that, Karen, because that's exactly right. So I would be, again, that reaction there that Stephen had was

exactly what I think what anybody was we're thinking. You look up and see this now a classic type of shape, right? Not a cube, but now something that we've heard before, cigarette, cigar type of shape elongated UFO. And you see it coming down further and further down and you're thinking, what the hell is that? Then he has no idea.

There's two of them, right? There was two, but one came down. Okay. So Stephen continued to watch as this craft descended to the ground below. And as anybody else would, I know I would. He gets curious. So he begins to get closer and closer to the craft. He wants to get a good look at it.

What is he experiencing here? So he wants to find some markings. He wants to see anything that could describe what he's seen. I start looking for marks. I never see anywhere or NASA or something written on it. No. Nothing. I didn't see anything on it. But still I was thinking that.

probably experimenting from the United States. Yeah, of course. So I love that there. So there's no N number. There's no tail number. Nothing. No serial number is nothing like that. No markings of any that would go back to any type of country or government. Where's his accent from?

The Ting. It's actually, I'm glad you asked that he's a Polish immigrant. Ah. And he came over to Canada after the war. Okay. So if you're wondering that, I'm glad you asked, because he was, by all accounts, just a quiet, unassuming guy. Yeah.

Just living his life with his wife and his children. He had a family there and, you know, by the Winnipeg area, just doing their thing back in the 60s. So, you know, I think you could probably gather that, too, just by listening to him. It seems like an easygoing, normal guy. And a skeptic. Yes. You know, and so that's why I'm glad he said that there because he's thinking, even in that moment. It's got to be the United States.

Right. Something that he can't explain. A scenario that is unimaginable to any of us as this craft has now landed in front of him. And his first thought is, well, it's got to be some type of experiment, maybe from the Americans or NASA, whatever. But it has to be human, right? So he's a skeptic at heart, even when he's seen it happen right in front of his face. You know, he's not some kooky guy. He was abducted by aliens.

Right. He was sitting there saying, no, I thought this was an experiment. What the hell is this? Right. So he got closer. He kept approaching the craft. He described it. And I found this fascinating because, I'll say it first.

and I'll tell you why I think this is a pretty cool connection. He called it seamless steel, almost as if it was carved out of a singular steel block. Interesting. Imagine like I would compare it to like a Renaissance artist would sculpt a statue. They would start with that solid like marble block, right, and worked away from there. It's seamless. And that's what he saw with this UFO. And I find that fascinating, Karen, because if you go way back to the episode that we did on Bob Lazard,

And he talked about his work that he did in the Area 51 area. And as far as helping reverse engineer one flying saucer, as he called it in a particular, he described it as seamless, this steel structure with nothing in there that would show you where any parts are connected. No rivets. No, yes. Exactly. So you have that description from Bob Lazar, who is I know as a controversial figure in the UFO world. Some people believe them, some people don't. But then you have this humble guy from Manitoba.

Same description. And you know how we love to have like repetitiveness and things repeating. That's right. And we have it all the time. And so here you have a description going back from 1967. Hey guys. So before we get back into the conversation, I just want to talk about something that affects all of us. And it's scary.

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From a guy who's just a normal dude living in Manitoba on a farm pretty much, just breaking rocks for fun. And he's describing the same type of seamless steel that Bob Lazard described 25 years later. Wow. Makes you wonder. It does. So it's also worth noting the shape of the craft that McKayleck described,

which again, that more classic cigar, cigarette shape with a dome on the top, you would assume that dome is where the flight controls would have been, right? You know, to have room for that. He also gave one more important detail that you need to keep in mind here when you hear it because it had one section on the bottom layer. Okay, he actually made a drawing of this UFO.

And if I can, I'll put it up on the UFP blog. Good. On 850WFTL.com where we put the show. He sketched it as it was sitting there. Oh, great. And it looks like your classic flying saucer. I think it may be changed shape or something after it came down. But what he described in the bottom layer was around a dozen holes or so in it.

And it was just on one particular. So even though you had this seamless steel, on one part of the bottom, you had this, I guess, rectangle of holes. And you'll see that in the picture, too, if I'm able to put it up on our blog page there, in 850wfdl.com. So why? Right? Well, he goes on to describe what happened next. Okay.

As he walked right up to the UFO and get this, the door, the hatch began to open. When the gate opened, there was a gritty, gritty, gritty, kind of shrieky talk like a kid's in problem or something. Thinking of USA, I said, okay, Yankee. boys, a Yankee boy. Seems to me you are in trouble. Yankee boys. Are you in trouble? And I kind of, I don't know, maybe this is a stretch here, but this is what just popped

to my head. I know what those holes were peep holes, so you could see what was outside of the vehicle. Maybe. Almost like a periscope on a submarine. On a door. On the end of your people. Could be. But maybe keep that suggestion, because you'll hear in a minute here.

But I don't know, maybe I'm making a stretch here in this connection, but he's talking about almost childlike chatter. I mean, a lot of times, at least with the grays, they're described as very small, right? Oh, right. Three to four feet tall. People say they resemble a child in their stature. Except they have three fingers. Yes.

And big bulbous heads with big eyes and slits for nose. But aside from that, their stature resembles children. So I don't know. I just found that interesting when he said as far as the sound he was hearing. But he was, as he was calling out, hey, Yankee boys and all those different things, he wasn't getting any answers. So he even tried calling out to any possible inhabitants in any other languages too.

Oh, he's bilingual. Actually, spoke Russian. Oh. He spoke German. Oh, multilingual. And of course, Polish. That with English. He tried in four languages to call out to whatever he was hearing

inside this craft and nothing seemed to work because he wasn't getting any response. So naturally, he did what any of us, I think, would do next, became more curious. I don't know. Would you walk up to it? At this point, I would be really freaked out. And I'm not sure what I would do. I know, I mean, in modern day, I would have out my phone and I would record it. Exactly.

But. Live on Facebook. Oh, of course. And then they block you. Yes. Yes. For fake news. Probably.

I mean, now modern day is different, but he became more curious and he decided to go even closer right up to the UFO itself for closer examination. So here's where he noticed the light getting bright. and brighter that was coming out from the open hatch. It got so bright, in fact, that he actually had to put on the welder glasses that he was wearing while he was, you know, carving into his rocks, breaking the rocks. He had to put that on. Oh, yeah, he was doing his prospecting.

But this time he was using those goggles for something else because the light got so bright. But still, though, no one responded to his calls as all this was going on. He was still trying. Did he try telepathy? I don't think he knew how to do that one. He knew four languages, but not telepathy. But then as all that was happening, as the light got brighter and brighter, the door then suddenly closed. Oh, boy.

Just as if it was never opened. So that's when he decided, you know what, I'm going to reach out and touch this thing. Oh, boy. Well, that's immediately singed the thick gloves he was wearing. Wow. So much so that it would be like if he touched the molten piece of metal. Okay. Which is interesting because he described this as seamless steel.

And it was that hot. I mean, he had to like rip off his glove. It was burned. His glove was burned. They found his glove later on with burn marks on it. And so it was in this moment where McAelick's life changed forever. And that's when this entire story takes a turn from strange close encounter to the thing of legend. So much so that they made a coin from it.

That's worth what? 20 bucks. According to Stephen, the craft, not me, Stephen McAleck. The craft started to rotate with now the section of the holes that he talked about on the side. Those were now facing him. And after it rotated and those holes faced him, the craft shot off into the sky. Oh, my. As it did that, it left behind a trail of fire.

Oh, its wake turbulence was fire. And it shot right into his chest. Oh, my God. And it set his shirt on fire. So it got pretty bad. This is where McKaelic has a little bit more. After igniting with the fire, the craft left some. Up 30 to 40 feet in vanish.

Then I decided to say, now is the time for me to buzz off from here. Go out. So I started going. Yeah, I'd say, time to get out of there. So, and now, see, that makes me think that this, these holes were like some type of grill, exhaust or whatever. I don't know.

I mean, we always talk about UFOs not having any type of trail behind it. But this one, for whatever reason, was a little bit different. But then he started to experience strange symptoms. Who's messed up? nauseous, vomiting, disoriented, he was burned. He found his compass, but the needle was going crazy, spinning everywhere. So he was able to finally find his way home after nine hours being out and searching away to home. And then he began to tell his story.

He got checked out at the hospital. And believe it or not, because I know you're thinking the same thing I was thinking, it's got to be radiation poisoning. Yes, yes. They said it wasn't. Really? But they did find something that was shocking. They removed his shirt.

Of course, right? They're doing the whole body checkup. They found the burn marks on his torso matched exactly the holes that he described seen on the UFO. Wow, that's crazy. Same shape, same distance as far as, you know, the holes that were away from each other. And it made that imprint on his torso. And, I mean, basically, they couldn't explain why. He was just there.

All of a sudden, he has these marks. And it matches these holes he described as it flew off into the cosmos, this UFO. Unfortunately, he ended up suffering from these symptoms on and off for the rest of his life, the nausea, the vomiting. You hear this from a lot of abductees. They come back on and off. But they also have these same symptoms. Well, here's, right. Yeah, exactly.

And normally you would chalk it up to radiation poisoning. But here's also one of the other weird things about this for him. The burns would heal. But then they would come back. Oh, wow. Every few months, this was the cycle. They would go away. Maybe it was shingles.

I mean, I don't know. Maybe it was a coincidence. I don't know. That is so weird. That's the part that was weird to me. Normally when burns heel, they scar and that's the end of it. But then they would come back like they were fresh. And the doctors could not explain why.

Neither could eat. That's really strange. I have to ask about the coin. Is it still in circulation? I think it is. It came out about four years ago. Oh, okay. So it's probably done there.

on it? It's more of like an artist depiction of what he described. So later they did do studies at the site where he had his encounter. They found that the area was radiated. I'll bet. And they even found shards of extremely rare and pure silver. And those shards were radiated. Oh, that's interesting.

So what are we to make of this entire thing? Did they find magnetism because the compass was spinning around? I don't know if they went that far into it, but I mean, the compass spinning is also something we hear about in some abduction inside cases too. And crop circles. Right. I mean, but they did find this big burned area as well. Okay.

Where he described the UFO being. For what it's worth, McKayek himself always believed that he was the victim of a secret government experiment. He actually never believed what we are assuming here that this was, you know, otherworldly craft. He didn't have a frame of reference. Right. So he immediately thought it's the U.S. Yeah. He thought there's some secret U.S. experiment that's, unfortunately, he came across that nobody was supposed to see.

Doctors were never fully able to explain or diagnosis symptoms. They said it resembled radiation poisoning. They wanted to say it was radiation poisoning, but it wasn't. He passed away in 1999 from old age. Oh, bless his heart. But his story lives on forever in UFO and UIP lore. Awesome. So what was this?

Yeah. What the hell was that? Was it Stephen McKaylick what he thought, you know, he thought it was a government experiment? Was it that? Or was this some type of alien craft that, unfortunately, he just got a little too close to. I don't know. In 1967, there wasn't a lot of advanced technology that could do those things.

I mean, if you believe his story, now he's the only witness to this. I don't see why he would have a reason to lie so specifically about something with all these details. I mean, other there's skeptics who say that he made it up. Yeah, but the symptoms of the craft that left the holes on him. And it kept coming back. Yeah. That's the part that gets me. me. That's weird. That's something you don't normally

hear about from any other normal burn where it would heal and come back. He'll and come back like it was new. And how is this not radiation poisoning? That's another thing too. I mean, again, these holes on the crafts, that's something we don't hear about a lot. Is that some type of exhaust grill? I don't a lot of questions with this one.

There are. It's interesting, but I'm so glad you shared it because they were all in Manitoba too is interesting to me. Well, the Northern Lights, and we went far north up to Canada for this part two of Canadian with the Canadian hotspots. So you make up your mind on these. You know,

that's what we always do. We give you the story. You make up your mind. Definitely one that I've been racking my brain over since putting this together. And I still can't make sense of it. I mean, if I'm going to make my own assumption, yes. He came into contact with another worldly being,

the craft with, you know, more technology than we could ever dream of right now, now or in 1967, and he's felt the effects of it for the rest of his life. But he never actually saw the beans. He heard chatter. And then the door closed again. Right. So he didn't see who was inside. Right.

That's interesting to me. So, again, make of it what you will, but definitely something that I'm going to be thinking about for a while myself. Yeah. Now, next time, on UAP, we're actually going to stay in Canada, believe it or not. Okay. Because, and I'll be honest, these are stories I had never heard before. I'm glad I packed my long johns. Keep your galoshes.

Yeah, keep it all there. But I came across these stories when I was researching these and I thought to myself, what am I reading? It's weird. I'll just say that. Really?

The next episode is going to be called Close Encounters of the Canadian kind. Oh my God, we're going to talk to Justin Bieber. No, no. Not so much. But that'll be episode 58. And there are really strange stories that we're going to be throwing out.

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