UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 70 Mysteries Down Under - Australian Sightings part 2

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

We've only just begun to scratch the surface of Australia's history with UFO/UAP sightings, which is why there had to be a part two! Did a woman named Annie Farinaccio really get picked up by... some Men in Black after getting chased by a diamond shaped craft? And what are we to make of the Knowles family and their harrowing account of an egg shaped craft that reportedly lifted their car off the road?! We cover it all here along with the latest update on the recent Las Vegas sighting that has gone viral. There's a new twist to that as well...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:24 Sightings Down Under. And as we begin, I'd like to point out that in part one, which had a lot of fun with, that I'm glad we got to do this series here. And again, I didn't mean to do a two-part series, but I mentioned how Australia has that rich history when it comes to UFO sightings. And they do. What I didn't realize was just how rich that history was.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I mean, I knew it was a lot, but when I was finishing up my research for this episode, I came across the fact that the Australian government has thousands of reports within their case files that have been investigated by the military. And as that fact kind of set in for me, it occurred to me that Australia, could quite possibly be the most underrated hotbed of UFO slash UAP activity on the globe.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Now, that's just my opinion. And maybe you will agree with that after you hear these two stories today, out of the thousands within those files that continue to really perplex those who investigated them. But first, before we get there, you know, we must hit our factoid. So here we go. Factoid. Ah, yes, there it is, the factoid sounder. A couple things real quick.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I don't want to spend too, too much time here on the factoid because I want to get into these stories. But the first thing is, and this is more of like an announcement more than a factoid, I want to let you know what's going down on Monday, June 12th. It is a disclosure conference that is happening in Washington, D.C. And if you heard UAP weekly a couple of weeks or about a week and a half ago, I spoke to Paige Fox, who is the attorney that I spoke. with working with Dr. Stephen Greer, by the way, and one of her partner is Derek,
Starting point is 00:03:08 and they are working together to try to bring UFO alien evidence into the court system and actually, you know, bringing into the legal system and to bring all these things that we've spoken about here on UAP and more to try to prove it within the courts, which is fascinating to me. I'm so intrigued by that idea. And they reached out to me,
Starting point is 00:03:31 and they're going to this. disclosure conference on Monday, June 12th, and they've invited me and I've decided to go. So I'm going to be going to this disclosure conference in Washington, D.C., again, happening on June 12th. So when I get back, I would suspect that on the next episode of UAP Weekly, I'll have a pretty good update for you on what's going on and what I learned there after that conference is over. So looking forward to reporting back to you after I get back from.
Starting point is 00:04:02 that conference. It's really should, it's fascinating. It should be really fascinating. I'm looking forward to finding out what I'm going to find out. So I will let you know. Um, other than that, this has really been in the news and this is more of the factoid that I wanted to get into other than, like I said, that was more of like an announcement to let you know what was going on. This Las Vegas siting is really starting to blow up. So if you haven't heard about this, here's what's going on in Las Vegas. So this goes back to May 1st and it's just all kind of coming out now. and it was this kind of green-looking streak that fell from the sky and reportedly landed in somebody's backyard. Now, when I hear a green streak, I think of some type of meteor.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It usually makes that type of color, that bluish, greenish as it falls to the earth. Now, this video was actually picked up by a police dash cam, police car dash cam that just happened to be set up on the side of the road. I think there was just a traffic stop. and it just happened to be there at the right time as this thing fell from the sky. Now, where this gets interesting, because you do see that part on the video. What we don't see is what happened next reportedly. According to the reports and according to the 911 call, the transcript of the 911 call, the backyard that it landed in, those people who were living there call 911 and started to basically,
Starting point is 00:05:31 just explain what they were seeing and what they were explaining to the dispatcher was and they were terrified. That's why they called 9-1-1. They were saying that they were seeing these creatures 8 to 9 to 10 feet tall in their backyard staring at them through their backyard with big black eyes. I mean, wow, right?
Starting point is 00:05:55 I really don't know what to make of this. It's kind of nuts. It's kind of crazy. again, I don't mean that in a bad way. I don't want that to sound bad. It's just, it's an incredible story and it gets even crazier actually. And when I say crazy, I mean just like mind-blowing type of stuff here. So two things that have kind of developed since the story started kind of coming out a couple of days ago is number one, the kid, one of the people there, there was about four or five people living in the house or in the house at that time. And one of the guys, young guys, named is Angel apparently. And he's come out and talked on video kind of detailing in his
Starting point is 00:06:41 explanation about exactly what happened, the time frame, you know, when it came down, what they saw, all that stuff. I retweeted that video on the UAAP Twitter if you want to check it out. If you haven't seen it yet, you can, it's about seven minutes long and you can watch it in its entirety because I retweeted that so you can be readily available for you at UA Podcast 850 is the Twitter so you can check that out if you want to see his video
Starting point is 00:07:06 explanation one of the guys who was there and then they also had that video that kind of popped up and some people were trying to zoom in on the video because they're shooting into the backyard and you see maybe this kind of black figure move and some people were able to freeze
Starting point is 00:07:22 frame that and like super zoom into it and you can kind of make what looks like a tall gray so it's it's kind of subjective i'm not going to lie um it really is you kind of have to you know i always say make up your own mind on this one because there isn't any other pictures or videos that show this there is the uh ring doorbell camera that picked up the sound of a crash so that was interesting it's all it's all really wild but here's the other thing so well before i get to that it's really up to you know what you want to take them at their word for because apparently according to
Starting point is 00:08:01 some other reports all the big black SUVs you know the men in black type thing they pulled up and took all videos all evidence all that stuff um that's what they say so why weren't they able to capture more of this you know supposed a nine foot tall alien in their backyard with pictures or video i don't know i mean the the the guy angel was talking about it was some type of like you know we haze around it almost like a camouflage type thing which I found interesting but again you can check out I have retweeted his entire video explanation where he talks about that night um right there on the uap Twitter account at UA podcast 850 but here's the other thing and this is more of like a personal connection which I found super strange but also maybe it gives an explanation so I was talking to my
Starting point is 00:08:50 wife about this and she's like hey what's this thing in Vegas and so I was explaining to her what this story kind of was and I showed her the video from the dash cam of the police car of the green streak coming down which again to me on first glance I thought it was a meteor she sees this green streak on the video
Starting point is 00:09:11 and starts freaking out and says oh my gosh I saw that and I said whoa whoa whoa hold on what's going on here so go back now to May 1st like I said this happened on May 1st she reminded me.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I was out that night with our kids on the road. We were driving home from an appointment. And as we were driving home, she called me and said, Hey, did you see that green streak in the sky? And I didn't. I guess I just wasn't facing the right way. But she reminded me of that. I was like, oh my gosh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I do remember you telling me about this. And it actually happened. We retraced our steps and went. back to when the appointment was when I was coming home with the kids, when I got the phone call from her. It happened on May 1st. So she saw the same green light. My wife, this happened to me. Okay? My own wife saw the same type of green streak that these people in Las Vegas saw that got caught on the police dash cam video. I shouldn't say the same type. She says it's the exact same thing. So I'm going by her words. Now, what does that mean? Does that mean that she saw the same craft?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Does that mean that she saw a separate craft? Does that mean that she saw a meteor shower? And that the people in Vegas saw a meteor shower. I did some digging. There was a meteor shower from May 5th up until May 14th, the peak of it being on May 9th. But this is May 1st. So if they did, if my wife and these people in Las Vegas both saw similar meteors on May 1st, it would have been about four days or so.
Starting point is 00:10:54 before deciding, or I should say before the media shower was actually set to take place on the astronomical calendar. So it's pretty wild. Now they actually kind of have like a personal connection to this. So I will say this. This is kind of a call to action here within the factoid. And I apologize. This is such a long factoid. I'm probably going to have to do a whole episode on this story.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But a call to action to ask you if you saw a similar type of green streak going through the sky, going downward, then please get to me on Twitter at UA Podcast 850 or email. And I'll give the email again at the end of the show because this is something kind of new that I set up if you don't do social media. Email S-Deneru-A-P at gmail.com. S-D-I-E-N-E-R-U-A-P at gmail.com if you would rather email rather than reaching out on Twitter. If you saw something like that green light coming down from the sky
Starting point is 00:11:57 because we saw it here in South Florida, I should say that, we're in South Florida. That's where I live. So we saw that streak here in South Florida and you have the witnesses in Vegas and we see the same thing on the same night. So did you see this green light in the
Starting point is 00:12:13 sky that my wife saw and that got caught on video in the Vegas sighting? Wherever you were did you have a similar sighting? Just asking. So if you did, please let me know because now I'm really fascinated since I kind of have like a personal connection
Starting point is 00:12:29 to this siding now even though I'm in South Florida and they're in Vegas. So it's a wild story. Some maybe coincidence is going on if you believe in coincidence. But yeah, there's probably a lot more to come from this that I will
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Starting point is 00:15:16 Within seconds it shoots up. straight up in the skylight faster than you could watch it. Auspicious beginning there, doing our first story as we dive into Australian Mysteries Part 2, all these sightings that have taken place in Australia. And Annie has really quite the story that we're going to go through here. And I hate to inform you that there wasn't much more sound for me to work with on this one from Annie herself. So you'll have to bear my voice as I give you the details that Annie gave in various interviews that appeared in print.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So we're going to go through the story here because it is. It's fascinating. I'd love to, you know, kind of see what you make of it. So how did Annie Farnaccio find herself face to face with a diamond-shaped UFO in the first place, right? Well, her story actually begins in late 1991, so a little over 30 years ago, when she was coming out of a party at around 2.30 in the morning. And this was at the Harold E. Holt, U.S. Naval Communication Station, which is located in the... the northwest cape of Australia. Now, the station sits in a town called Eggsmouth, and its purpose, and by the way, this is
Starting point is 00:16:26 like a remote area of Australia. There's not much going on there, or at least in 1991, so maybe it's been built up more. I don't know. But its purpose was to act as a U.S. outpost, this naval communication station base, whatever you want to call it. It was supposed to be a U.S. outpost to give launch commands to the nuclear submarines. that were, you know, kind of in that area in the water in case they had ever found themselves in that type of situation
Starting point is 00:16:54 where we would need to fire off nuclear missiles. Thankfully, that never happened. It hasn't happened and we pray that it never does. But as she left the party, she realized that it was too late to find a taxi. It was 2.30 in the morning and didn't exactly have Uber going around and, you know, a remote part of Australia in 1991. So she ended up getting a ride home with a couple of police officers.
Starting point is 00:17:17 named Kevin and Alan. Okay? Now, things began to take a strange turn a few minutes into the ride when Annie says she recalls the officer named Kevin yelling out, it's back, grab the camera. So now she's thinking, okay, what's going on? But he's saying grab the camera to his partner, Alan, the other officer.
Starting point is 00:17:39 He then began to snap away as he tried to capture on film what they really couldn't explain. But Annie was still trying to figure out what they were seeing. She couldn't see what they were seeing. And she's also probably thinking how many times had they seen this thing before? Because Kevin says it's back. So what does that mean? Well, Kevin pulled her head forward and said to her,
Starting point is 00:18:00 Look up. That's when she says she saw a long diamond-shaped craft hovering overhead of their car with what she describes as having the rear edge kind of like chopped off. And then rows of lights running. towards the tip of the craft. So quite the siding, right? I mean, this thing is pretty much hovering right above them. Now, some people have even compared this to the famous Calvin UFO siding, which appeared
Starting point is 00:18:27 in Scotland the year before in 1990. And I covered that story in a previous episode. If you're not familiar with it, you can, of course, go back and listen. It's a famous siding. Actually, I've kind of brought up with Nick Pope in our UAP weekly interview that we did a few weeks back as well because he investigated that. that's sighting. Very fascinating.
Starting point is 00:18:49 But for Annie and her mates, they had no idea what they were looking at in this moment. And rightfully so. So they continued to drive and the policeman told Annie that they had seen
Starting point is 00:19:00 the same craft following them the night beforehand. And now it was following them again. So according to her account, the UFO then began to dart up into the sky. So thinking, okay, it's leaving. But then it came back down beside the car,
Starting point is 00:19:15 almost in like a taunting. manner. And this was instantaneous, according to her account. I mean, you think about this, how fast it would have to go up and then back down and what would make it seem like it never even moved at all. Can you imagine something like this? Now, naturally, Annie was terrified, of course, as the policeman now began to speed down the road, as the UFO actually chased them. So they're speeding. This thing is going up and down from the sky, comes down beside them, and it's chasing them down the road, according to her story. Now, during the height of terror for all of them,
Starting point is 00:19:51 in uncertainty, really, Annie then says she saw the UFO dart back up into the sky once again before coming back down and landing in some shrubbery down the road. Now, at this point, Kevin and Allen wanted to stop to take some pictures. Because, you know, why not, I guess, right? At least they were thinking about getting some photographic evidence. But Annie was like, no, we got to get out of here, take me home now. and she began to cry actually, according to her story,
Starting point is 00:20:17 because of how incredibly mortified and horrified she was about this whole thing. They continued to drive off, you know, said, okay, we'll take you home. They went as fast as they could before finally getting her home. She ran inside, she locked the door, and she thought her nightmare was over at that point. That was until a couple of days later when two American MPs came into her workplace and asked her to come with them. So now she's thinking that while this can't have anything to do with a diamond-shaped UFO that we just experienced a couple nights ago, because she didn't tell anybody about it. She actually thought she was in trouble for being on the base so late and drinking into the wee hours of the night.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's what she was thinking. Because again, she didn't tell anybody about her sighting and what had happened a couple nights previous with this diamond-shaped UFO chasing them down the road. well she quickly realized that was not the case as they drove her into a top secret portion of the base and led her into a room where she saw the two officers from that night. Alan and Kevin were sitting there. She knew this was not a good situation. And she also saw about four or five other men who she didn't know or recognize as being on the base before. Now here's the thing you have to remember, Ex-Smith was for the most part, again,
Starting point is 00:21:40 a small remote town. So the locals knew and became familiar with a lot of the base personnel, but that wasn't the case for Annie in this moment. She didn't know who these guys were. The situation became very tense at best as they began to ask her what she saw that night. Now, she was very stubborn, proud Australian, Annie was. She replied and told them straight up that she saw a UFO. And then they asked her to draw it for them.
Starting point is 00:22:07 When she did and showed them the picture of the dead. diamond-shaped craft. So then they said to her, you do know that this was a weather balloon, right? She couldn't believe it. They actually tried to pull off the weather balloon excuse to her. And she says that she actually laughed in their faces when they told her that it was just a weather balloon. Now, she knows what she saw, and she says it was no weather balloon. And that's what she told these men as well. Now, there was then a chilling moment As the two officers who were with her that night, Kevin and Allen, again sitting there in the room,
Starting point is 00:22:47 She didn't know how long they had been sitting there already. They're sitting next to her and she heard them mutter under their breath Kind of saying to her, please just stop, go along with it Because you're going to get us all killed. Think about the chill that must have ran down her spine in that moment. But she was defiant. and she refused to give in to their forceful tactics. After hours of questioning,
Starting point is 00:23:11 she says they let her and the other officers go and they went about their way. They went home. Now, it doesn't end there because after returning home, she decided to go ahead and find Alan. She found out where, you know, he lived and said, all right, I'm going to go speak to this guy at his home. And she asked him about that night.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And he admitted to her that he did drive back with Kevin to take the pictures that they wanted to take. of this diamond-shaped UFO. He says that they saw it hovering above the ground and they knew in their hearts that this was something that was under intelligent control. That's what he told Annie, according to Annie anyway. Alan then had the pictures developed and ended up telling some people on the base about it. So there is your connection there of how anybody found out, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:59 this thing ever happened to begin with. Because next thing you know, they find themselves all being interrogated about that. citing and Alan says that the American men actually took his camera, the photos and the negatives, all of them never to be seen again. He then asked Annie to just leave and never come back because he was just so spooked about the whole thing that he didn't want to deal with it anymore. So as time went on, Annie dealt with many skeptics regarding her story and this siding, but in her defense, she points to witnesses like her own mother and co-workers who corroborate her story of being taken away at least by the military police.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Her mother says actually that they first came to the house looking for her and she told them that she's at work. And then they ended up going to Annie's job and scooping her up there where her coworkers do say that, yeah, she was taken out by military police. So you can make of it all what you will. But in the 30 years since this supposed siding, there's yet to be anyone who can debunk her story. There's even a picture of her that I'm going to tweet this out actually on the UAP Twitter
Starting point is 00:25:03 account at UA Podcast 850, where she is kind of drawing the diamond-shaped UFO that, again, she and the other two officers allegedly saw that night back in 1991. So fascinating story. I mean, you imagine just being chased by UFO, seeing this diamond-shaped craft. And we've heard about the diamond-shaped crafts before. They're not very common. But according to Annie, she saw one that night and went through quite the ordeal because of it back in 1991.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Now, believe it or not, that's not the only UFO chase story out of Australia. In fact, an even more intense encounter happened a few years earlier back in 1988, and that's where our second story starts on a remote stretch of road near Perth, Australia. This is a case that had multiple witnesses, physical evidence, and even national attention at the time. And 35 years later, it is yet to be explained. This is the story of the Knowles family and their terror that they had on the road, and it was terrifying. Faye Knowles and her three sons claim an orange blob picked their car up off the highway. They fled in terror into the scrub until the object disappeared.
Starting point is 00:26:17 For the Knowles family, it was to have been a routine drive across the Nullabor. That all changed as the family approached the town of Mundra Billa on the air highway. They claimed that's when they had their unexpected and terrifying. encounter with the unknown. So yeah, that's how this whole thing starts. Car is picked up, put down, they're chased, felt it hit the top of the roof,
Starting point is 00:26:38 so it's a pretty wild one. And I do want to say real quick, actually, that I have to give credit where credit is due on this particular story. I got to say thank you to one of our listeners, Brad Wolf, because he actually sent me this story on the UAP Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And I'm happy he did. He sent it to me after the Australian Siding's part one episode. And he's like, dude, you got to check this one out. And to his credit, I had actually never heard of this story before. But once I looked into it, it was like, oh, my gosh, I got to talk about this. So I'm really happy. Thank you because it is quite the story, as you already started to hear.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So again, thank you, Brad, for reaching out to me on this one. But to pick back up where we left off, this family of four is just driving along a remote highway in the middle of the night as they were all of a sudden approached and engaged by what they described as a, bright egg-shaped UFO. So the four of them were in this car, and this egg-shaped UFO starts to chase them down. And I do find the report of the egg-shaped
Starting point is 00:27:40 to be particularly interesting, just because we have heard of craft like that in the past. Again, another rare one, the egg and the diamond, you don't hear too much about, but we have heard about a few of those with other sightings in the past. So we do have, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:54 essentially one of the classic shapes here. Now, the Knowles family actually did, do quite a bit of press immediately following this incident. Again, because it was such a public event that caught the attention of many people throughout the country in Australia. I mean, there were witnesses on the road, actually a couple of truck drivers who did say they saw this car get lifted in the air by what they described by a big strange light. So, I mean, were they trying to be abducted?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Was this egg-shaped craft craft trying to abduct them? Was it trying to intimidate them? I don't know. but there's a lot of detail with the story that the family went further into during different interviews. So I want to play you some of those clips from the family themselves as they explain what ended up happening during this ordeal, which was only lasted about, you know, maybe 10, 15 minutes, but my gosh, it was probably the longest 10, 15 minutes of their lives. Here's a bit more for one of the sons. His name is Patrick.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And he begins to talk about a strange smoke that was starting to fill the car. It was really weird. All this smoke and it was like smoke. It was like smoke. And me and my brother started to go crazy, you know. I thought it was going to in my head. It felt like my brain was getting sucked out. So I want to make clear that that sound there didn't skip or anything.
Starting point is 00:29:14 He just, he's baffled. I mean, he heard him repeat himself. It was like smoke, some kind of smoke. He's trying to find the words to explain what he experienced that night. And then the feeling he's talking about like his brain getting sucked out. Now, obviously that didn't happen. My gosh, that would be awful. But that just makes me think what's happening there?
Starting point is 00:29:33 I mean, is it, was there some type of suction as this thing was lifting the car up? Was there, you know, some type of pressure that was making him feel like his brain was getting sucked out? I mean, I've never heard a description like that before. But there's more to that smoke detail, actually, that you're going to hear in a couple minutes. So kind of remember that part there. It's something that I've never heard anything quite like the detail you're going to hear about the smoke in a little while. But one of the things that really gets me about this one is that it was an incident that was investigated by the police the very next day. When they came to check out the car, they did indeed find a dent on the roof of the car, which would coincide with their claim of this thing coming down on top of them.
Starting point is 00:30:23 and they also did find a strange ash-like residue inside the car that would match that story. You just heard about this strange type of smoke being in there, whatever it was. So there's your physical evidence. So you have eyewitnesses who were on the road who say they did see this car getting picked up by some type of strange light.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I mean, again, can you imagine seeing something like that? And then you have the police in an official police report from 1988 saying, yes, there is a dent on the roof of the car. Decide for yourself how it got there. And there was some type of strange residue inside the car. So maybe some type, again, physical evidence to match up with what they are describing there. Whether or not it came from this encounter that they're talking about, you decide for yourself.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But something obviously happened there. Now there's more to this now that the Nolz family actually spoke about back in 1988. So just some more clips I want to play for you because this was a couple of days after their encounter. They did a TV news interview with one of the local stations. and they interviewed all of them actually, the mother and the growth. I mean, these kids were grown. They're adults at this point. So it's not like these were little kids when this happened.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But here's what the mother had to say when the interviewer asked her why they believed they had a true UFO encounter. So listen to her answer here because it's, well, it's kind of odd. Here's Mrs. Knowles and what she had to say. Because we actually score, you know, it was chastinous. and all of a sudden it landed on our car and put our car back and I put my hand at the window and I found it on the roof
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Starting point is 00:34:35 because it has these details of UFO encounter, UAP encounter that I've never heard before about some type of strange smoke, some type of spongy substance. you know, that's on this thing that she felt on the roof. I really don't know what to make of that. So I guess, you know, we've got to look more. Maybe there's other sightings that people talked about giving details like that.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But here's more from that interview as another one of the sons named William talks more about the encounter and the events that led up to the craft landing on the roof. Here's how he recounted things leading up to all that stuff. So I got up place to have a look. and it was moving backwards and forwards and so we decided to take off to have a lot we decide to take off and it was flying miles back and I drove miles up the right again and it was in front of us again how high off the ground was it was on the ground I mean it was on the ground facing us when we were driving along and then so it was
Starting point is 00:35:44 moving along with you yeah it was pollen this So you heard the interviewer there asking them those questions and it's striking. I mean, you can kind of picture yourself being in that situation. They're trying to get away from this craft. They don't know what it is. And it's following them down the road on street level according to their story. I mean, they are actually being chased by UFO and it's really odd. I've never actually talked about two stories in the same episode before where someone's being followed.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I mean, actively being followed. You had the story that we just went through with Annie Farnaccio talking about this diamond-shaped, you know, UFO following them. Now you have the Nolz family a few years earlier before Annie talking about this egg-shaped craft following them. And then it kind of makes me think about the stories you hear about with fighter jets, right, even going back to the foo fighter days of World War II when they talk about being followed by these bright lights.
Starting point is 00:36:45 why are people being followed? I guess is my question when it comes to all this, whether it's fighter jets, passenger jets, or people in cars. It's a fascinating question to me. It's an intriguing question. I don't know, maybe even a disturbing question to ask, why are they being followed? I mean, what is it with these craft or the occupants of the craft
Starting point is 00:37:10 that makes them want to follow people in a car or in an airplane? I don't know. Chase didn't stop there. These poor people, these, this poor family, they were now quite literally, according to their story, being hotly pursued by an alien craft. And the family recounted in their story that they actually reached speeds of over 120 miles per hour,
Starting point is 00:37:31 which in kilometers, it was over 200 kilometers, but in, you know, for our sake, as an American myself, going by miles per hour, over 120 miles per hour, while they were trying to get away from this thing. That's fast. That's really fast. and what happened next well naturally
Starting point is 00:37:49 their tire blew out of course right right what else could you ask for when you're being chased by aliens but to get a blown tire now I say that as the tire blew the craft then at that point this is an important detail that the Nolz family tells
Starting point is 00:38:05 when the tire blew the craft at that point came down on top of their roof so you have to imagine they're flying down the road I mean well actually the UFO is flying, but they're going very fast down the road at 120 miles per hour. The tire blows. The UFO then comes down on their roof. And oddly enough, that's what actually kept them from flipping over or spinning out of control
Starting point is 00:38:28 because you have to imagine if you're going at over 100 miles per hour when your tire blows, you're not just going to gently skid to a stop. You're going to go flipping through the air. You're going to skid out somewhere. It's not going to be good. But this thing comes down on the roof and that actually keeps. them grounded according to their story. That's what they tell. But it was also at this point that the UFO started to release that strange smoke you heard about earlier. So I want to pick that
Starting point is 00:38:56 back up because this is where you're going to hear a detail again that I've never heard before relating to a possible, you know, otherworldly type of encounter. We're going to go back to the Nolz family and there's some Patrick as he says their voices started to change in this moment as the smoke started to come into the car. It's really strange. When it was on the roof, I wound down my window, and all this smoke started coming. It was like a grayish black mist.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And that's when our voices started to change. Our voices just went really deep and strange. And we felt like we were dying. So, obviously, it sounds like he's, I mean, maybe he's describing a panic attack, obviously, right? I mean, you say they felt like they were, dying. I'm sure it's because they were just so terrified. They annoyed it what was happening around them. That's just my assumption anyway on that end. But I've never heard that detail. Maybe you have,
Starting point is 00:39:54 I don't know, about voices changing during a possible, you know, alleged alien encounter. I don't really know how to explain that one, but that's the detail that they give. I mean, the thing that I could think of is, I mean, are they slowing down time somehow? So when almost like if you take a recording of yourself and you put it into an editing system and you slow it down and it makes you sound like, you know, you're talking really slow with a deep voice, right? That's, that's what would happen if you took your voice and put it into an editing system and slowed it down. You're actually slowing down the time. So is that what was happening here? Did time slow down for them what did this craft actually slow down time in that moment which would cause this voice change
Starting point is 00:40:50 in a deep voice that's the only thing i can think of otherwise i i really don't know what to make of that maybe that sounds crazy i don't know but that's that's the only explanation i can think of if of course you believe their story here and now patrick also says they did hear a noise coming from this thing, kind of like a humming noise. He described it as making like a mm-mm type of noise. That type of humming. And what I do also find strange, just
Starting point is 00:41:17 to kind of get back on the voice real quick, there were fishermen who were out on the water at the same time. And on the same night, these fishermen actually recounts
Starting point is 00:41:33 that they also saw this bright light in egg-shaped craft. So not only do you have the Knowles family telling this story of this incredible encounter, but you also had two fishermen tell the same story. And they described the same thing that their voices changed and became very deep. It's a really odd detail. So I mean, I'm curious, maybe we'll come across something like that again, but it's, again, the only thing I can think of is that this craft is actually slowing down time to make the voice sounds slower and deeper. But you have to, you have to two different instances on the same night of two different people, or groups of people, really,
Starting point is 00:42:13 giving the same detail. It's fascinating. But finally, after all that damage was done, the UFO shot off into the sky, and the family was able to leave the car. And they said they probably went out, they went out into the bushes and hid there for about 10 minutes before they felt safe enough to go back and attempt to drive home. So this thing is on their car. The mist is coming. And in, it tries to pick them up, they land back on the ground, it takes off, and now they go to hide in the bushes, okay? It's basically what happened here. So after about 10 minutes or so, they say, okay, let's try to get back in the car and go home. And would you believe it, as soon as they started driving again, this egg-shaped craft reappeared and started to follow them
Starting point is 00:42:59 again. And now they say the only reason they were able to get away was because they actually turn off their lights and they were able to lose this craft. It stopped following them. That's their story. I know it sounds wild, maybe even implausible, but just remember that you have also the fishermen who say that they had a similar encounter and you also have the truck drivers who say they did see this car get picked up. This thing was investigated by police. They had the dent on the roof of the car.
Starting point is 00:43:32 They had strange residue inside. I don't know. But it's a terrifying story really, and it sounds like a horror movie, quite honestly. I'm surprised that a movie wasn't made about this. Maybe there was. I got a little bit. Maybe there was a movie made about this that I'm not aware of. But I mean, just imagine a scenario like that.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Put yourself in that situation. It's unbelievable. And they did make their feelings of sheer terror known during their interviews. And on this final sound here from Mrs. Knowles, I really believe that you can actually hear the fear in her voice as she kind of made her her closing statement here on this interview that they gave on that local news station. It was strange. It was following this everywhere. Wouldn't it was alone? I was a nervous wreck. Yeah, I would be too. And again, you can believe whatever you want about this. Obviously, it's always up to you. That's, that's always the thing here with UAP. It's always up to you.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I just give you the story. But they really did seem absolutely terrified during their retelling of their story. And I really felt for them, you know, kind of listening, going through their the clips from their interviews and seeing the video of their interviews, they look terrified. They look like when they're talking about it, you can see that they're thinking back on something. And all I can say is that something absolutely did happen to them. There's no doubt about that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Just watching their interviews, you can tell by looking at their faces, something happened to them. You can tell by the police report that something happened to them. Their tire was blown, the car was dented, a strange residue inside. Whatever happened to them, them shaken for sure. But before we go, I want to leave you with this statement from a man named Elliot Seifert.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Now, this is just a quick thing. He's an Australian Navy veteran, and he was doing an interview about a sighting he had while on patrol one night on the Navy ship. Now, I wouldn't normally place something completely out of context like this. This is its own story from this guy, Elliot Seafurt. but I felt that what he had to say here was so profound that it was a good way to wrap up this episode. So I'm going to play you this clip from Elliot
Starting point is 00:45:42 after he was kind of retelling his story in a interview. This is how he ended his thought, and it's worth listening to. I guess maybe that's the best way I can put it. So here's Elliot. It wasn't space junk, hitting other space junk. It was a steady white light that just didn't change. I know it.
Starting point is 00:46:03 my soul. Deep down I know, okay, that's unexplainable. It changed me as knowing that, okay, we're not it. We're not. Maybe they're watching, watching what we're doing, laughing at us, thinking we're ants, I don't know. And it made me think, well, if we're this small, what are we doing? Yeah, not much more for me to add right there. There's something to ponder on i suppose but that will do it for this episode of uap and i must tell you now real quick that i am going to take a little break nothing major not stopping or anything like that but it's just it's time for me just to take a little break before i come back with episode 71 of uap but i will be
Starting point is 00:46:54 sure to keep you updated on that on the twitter account at ua podcast 850 but that said i will not be taking a break from uap weekly you can expect to hear that coming up next week as of this date right now, as I speak to you. And I have a feeling that there's going to be plenty to catch up on at that point, whether it's about the disclosure conference. I'll be at in Washington, D.C. on June 12th, or whether it's about this Las Vegas story or anything else that comes up between now and then. UAP Weekly, I'm sure will be chockful of goodies for you when I get to come back
Starting point is 00:47:25 and talk to you again on that next week. But a little bit of a break for this classic edition of UAP, but not too long. Don't worry. I'll be back soon with this portion. of UAP. But until then, you can continue to download and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast and you can always follow me and the show on Twitter at UA Podcast 850, where you can interact with any of your feedback or stories of your own that you would like to relate. I'm always open to that as well. Also, and this is new. I thought maybe I would get this going for you
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