UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 84 What Has Been and What May Be

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

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I'm Stephen Deiner back with you here, as always, on the Unidentified Alien podcast. And what you heard right there was Senator Mark Kelly from the great state of Arizona. And he was in an interview talking about the UAP issue and how it's looked at throughout the government of the United States within Congress, within the Senate. And, you know, what does he think that it is? What's going on? And, of course, the answer is, well, we don't really know, which kind of seems to be the answer. when you talk to anybody within one of the chambers of the House or the Senate. And that kind of sets the table for the main portion of our episode here today on UAP episode 84.

So welcome back in. So happy to have you. And there's a lot to cover. And I really am kind of upset because I really wanted to do this episode like three days ago. But it's just really hard to keep up with things sometimes and schedule-wise and busy schedules. We're all busy. plates, but I'm just happy to be able to finally be here today and cover all of these things that have been happening over the past week for this new episode of UAP.

And you might be wondering, well, you know, you keep talking about all these things, so what are they? I think the best thing I can do to answer that question and to really kind of set the table here for this episode 84 is to read my own tweet. So this idea came to me for this episode to kind of, you know, cover some of these things that have been in the news, in the UAP news cycle anyway, over the past week, when my own head was spinning, on September 10th, I sent out this tweet. And I'm like, I got to try to sit down and nail all these things down.

So what I wrote was, cops have been told how to handle the UFO invasion. Jay Stratton is coming out with a tell-all book. Plasma bubbles over the pyramids, which we're not going to get to today. I got to dig more into that. Dick Cheney is the disclosure gatekeeper. Nancy Mace will have. had the new congressional UAP committee, much more on that. Lou Elizondo will be there to testify under oath, supposedly, and so much more happening here.

So we're going to try to touch on that here today on this episode 84 of UAP and even some more stuff that I didn't mention during that original tweets, but I was just trying to make sense of it all. And that's what we're going to do here today. And to start it off, let's go ahead and talk about the first thing I mentioned during that tweet, which was, are police being told how to handle a UFO invasion? This is our factoid for today. Ladies and gentlemen, the factoid. There it is.

Now we can start. And this does include the details here of what is happening. Are cops really being told how to handle a possible UFO invasion, UFO sightings, crashes, whatever it might be. And whether some people want to believe it or not, it is, in fact, true, that police department across the country are being told how to handle these sightings. I mean, you talk about a change of pace. Let me just say that real quick from the past. Think about all of the stories that we've spoken about here on the show

or that maybe you've heard yourself in the past when it comes to UAP, UFO sightings. I mean, so many times these are brought to law enforcement, whether it's local or federal. And a lot of times, unfortunately, it's either suppressed or pushed aside. But now we're talking about a complete change where we've gone from decades of denial to here's how to handle it and what to look out for. It's wild. In fact, let me play for you the Charlotte, North Carolina Police Chief.

His name is Johnny Jennings. And he was on News Nation, I believe, yeah, it was News Nation where he was asked about this. You know, what is going on. Here's what he had to say about this whole thing. Hey, these things are out there. they're happening whether you believe in what the origin of them are or not, they're happening and it's important that we are able to report on. So here's the reference guide.

I can read from this a little bit. It's kind of long, so I don't want to drone on and read from the reference guide. But someone actually, actually a few different people put this out on social media. And so I kind of screen captured it here. It's the June 2024. So this has actually been out for a few months. It was just kind of noticed. recently the June

24 reference guide for police officers on unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as UAP. I'll just read you the sections. It's kind of like the table of contents. UAP in the news, law enforcement considerations, U.S. government

UAP programs, whistleblowers, UAP in Congress, and it goes down the list, UAP and NASA, UAP reporting mechanisms is in Section 10. They do talk about spy balloons, and drones and advanced UAP.

So notice those three, specifically, okay, they weren't saying UAP could be. It says spy balloons, drones, and advanced UAP pose a clear and present danger. That is the headline in bold on this reference guide for America's police officers. It's incredible, again, to see the shift here and to see it go public.

Now, the question is, how long has it been going on behind the scenes? I mean, did it just come out now that they're taking these things seriously? Some of the literature here says, this is not the first time that upgrades to our sensor capabilities revealed unidentified phenomenon in our skies. So that refers back to when we were seeing the so-called weather balloons that were shot down. Remember that one? When the F-18s and F-22s were going down and shooting things down over our

Alaska. Yeah, that was interesting. We don't hear about that anymore, do we? And they also mention how Western U.S. residents report the most UFO sightings, which is very interesting because we just heard from Senator Mar Kelly from Arizona right there, Western State. One of the states we're going to talk about today is kind of in that area, but even in previous episodes. I was just talking about the number of sightings in California, the number of sightings I've mentioned New Mexico and Arizona and all these places. So it's really actually encouraging to see that being acknowledged here in this reference guide. It is incredible.

I will retweet this if you haven't seen it, this 2024 reference guide on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena that is being sent to our nation's police departments. It's incredible, but they are taking it seriously. And especially to hear the chief of the Charlotte Police Department, Johnny Jennings, there to say that these things are happening and something like this is an important step to really helping to lessen the stigma, I think, that still hangs over any witness that decides to come forward. Again, think about all the stories we heard about witnesses coming forward to law enforcement

or federal agencies and you kind of get that side eye. But if they're taking it seriously, that means they're going to take your reports seriously, which I think is a huge step in that support, you know, to have that support from higher ups in law enforcement. It's, man, wild times. To say the least wild times. We've only just begun here on this episode. So let's go ahead and dive into the main course here today. Are we really getting some new UFO hearings before the end of September? We were talking within the next couple of weeks. This really did kind of spring up on us out of nowhere. And it's funny because I was just talking about this with Patrick from Vedin, not too long ago. I think on my most previous episode, I was talking about this

with him and we were kind of, you know, hypothesizing, postulating about whether or not we would see any new type of UAP hearings because of some grumblings with, you know, guys like Timberchette or Annapalino, we've been hearing them talk about these things behind the scenes, how they wanted to happen, but the question was, will it realistically happen in such a contentious election year or this close to the election? And it seems like the answer is yes. So here's where this is right now. According to none other than Democratic Senator from New York, Kirsten Gillibrand, it is

officially on. That's what she says. Here's what she had to say about her views and priorities, heading into what's going to be this new historic hearing. Priority for me, because I think it's very important that we continue to make things publicly available, give

progress report on how many unidentified era phenomena we've assessed and analyzed, give examples of what we have identified, and give examples of what we have identified so that the community can be kept up to speed about what we're actually doing and what this office is doing We also want to try to continue to build credibility within this office So more of the public can feed in sightings and have a place and a platform to send information and inquiries Because that's eventually what this office is supposed to do really interesting you keep hearing her referred to this office

She's talking about Arrow and the different things they have going on within the Senate's intelligence committees and things like that to, you know, take on this subject and take it seriously. And by the way, credit there goes to askapole.com who got that exclusive cut from Senator General Brand. Great work there. It sounded like he was able to track her down somewhere on the streets of Washington, D.C. So great work to get that exclusive soundbite. And that's where we got this information that she says she's planning.

It's on her agenda that she hopes to have the new head of arrow testify in front of the Senate for this new hearing and that it should happen before the end of September. So again, we're kind of running out of time on that, only a couple of weeks left in the month of September incredibly. So that really doesn't give us much more time. So we're just going to have to keep up on it and see how this all plays out and who ends up showing up. But it doesn't end there.

I mean, if you're going to have a, you know, UAP hearing with new head of Arrow and anybody else that might call in there in the Senate chambers, that would be big enough news. again, supposedly within the next couple weeks. But it's even bigger because the Senate is not the only one who is going to have a new UAP hearing. There is a reason why I used the term historic just a minute ago. It is because for the first time in history, we are going to get UFO hearings in both the chambers of Congress and the Senate. This is a massive development, and it really can't be understated. Because in the past, you know, we've seen, of course, the congressional hearing.

We've talked about Nancy Mays. We're going to talk about her a little bit more. Of course, Jared Moskowitz and Tim Burchett and all the people who took part in questioning the three witnesses with Ryan Graves and David Fravor and David Grush. And we also had Sean Kirkpatrick testify in a Senate hearing in front of Senator Gillibrand and other senators. But those were separate. They were separated by months and months. So now to see and hear that, again, supposedly this is going to take place in both houses, Senate and Congress. Really, I know I said it, but I'll say it again, the importance of this cannot be understated.

And I say that because in the past, the tactic of dual hearings has been used during major moments like Watergate or the Iran-Contra affairs with the purpose of accelerating legislation. That's why they did it for those to accelerate legislation and opinions on the issues. Because let's face it, if this is being talked about within both the Senate and the Congress, you're getting dual coverage there. And a lot of people are paying attention to this. And they're going to say, we're talking about, again, this is the casual observer. I think I referred to them in my discussion with Patrick as the six o'clock news viewer, the 6 o'clock news citizen. And that's not a degradation. That's not a put-down.

What I mean by that is just a normal everyday person who is extremely busy. Does it pay attention to this in the background? And the only information they get is from the 6 o'clock news. This would be on the 6 o'clock news. Double hearings, double UFO hearings within the Senate and the Congress, would be massive. And apparently, it's going to happen. And furthermore, and this is just my own observation, if this was not a a big deal to the senators and the congressmen and the congresswomen who are taking this on,

if this wasn't a big deal to them, then they would not be doing it this way. Right? This isn't by accident. Again, that's just my own observation. Maybe I'm looking too much into it. But I feel like if it was something that they felt like they can just, you know, talk about one day, it's, whatever, then they would have separate hearings maybe six months apart. I feel like this is coordinated where they want to put this in the spotlight.

I think it's as simple as that, and it should be noticed, which is why I haven't in the episode today. But on the congressional side of things, right? We talked about Senator Gillibrand. It sounds like she's going to be heading that one. It's rumored, though, on the Congress side, that Republican representative out of South Carolina, and I mentioned her name a couple of times already,

Nancy Mace will be heading those proceedings. Again, that's the rumor. Maybe we're going to look back on this, and it's going to be somebody completely different, but that's kind of what's being said. But why is that a big deal? Why am I trying to put that out in the forefront? Because let's go back to last summer

when she had this exchange with David Grush. I'm sure you remember it. It ended up becoming one of the most replayed moments from that session. Here you go. You've said that the government is in possession of potentially non-human spacecraft. Based on your experience

and extensive conversations with experts, Do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? Something I can't discuss in public setting. Okay, I can't ask when you think this occurred. If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah.

Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? non-human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary evidence, this video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you to skip about. Gotcha. All right, there it is. And I played the whole thing.

I know it was kind of long, but I wanted to just kind of, you know, reset there, reset the moment between Nancy Mace and David Grush. So the question is, that's why I feel like, that I don't know. look, it's controversial. I am not getting into a political discussion here on UAP, not today, not ever. Do you want to have a political discussion? Go find a podcast that talks about politics because I will not do it here on UAP. The reason being, because I believe this is a bipartisan issue. And if I come out swaying one way or the other or like, you know, trying to promote one candidate over the other special during election season. There's just no reason for me

to do that. It's irrelevant to the conversation in my view. So I always feel like this is a bipartisan conversation and I will always do my best to keep it at that. So when I talk about Democratic Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona or I talk about Republican

Representative from South Carolina Nancy Mace, I'm not making any statements or favoring anybody. These are the people who are involved. So again, that's That's my stance on that. So I hope you don't mind. But when it comes to Nancy Mace, I feel like from that standpoint, the way that she questioned David Grush really makes her a solid choice to head this committee.

Because you can see, you can hear, rather her interest there. She asked one of the best questions of the entire hearing when it came to the biologics, which is why that clip still lives on today over a year later from that test. testimony. So I do believe that she's a really solid choice because, if she does end up heading this, because she's engaged. She's someone who is very interested in the subject, straightforward with a lot of her questioning and like her style of questioning from what I've seen when it comes to different, you know, testimonies on Congress. So I feel like she makes a really good choice for this hearing to kind of head things because she's kind of in this with the timber chest.

and the Moskowitz and the lunas and then Gates and everybody like that. So I like it. If that's the case, if it's Nancy Mace, I think she's going to do a good job. If for no other reason, we just hear that clip. I mean, again, that's the one that continues to live on. But who will be there? Is it going to be David Grush again? I doubt it.

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Lou, by the way, is making the rounds. If you haven't seen, he's been everywhere. I don't have that sound here on today's show. Maybe I'll do that later on. When I talk to somebody next week, no, it's not Lou Elizando, but it's somebody that is pretty knowledgeable on his affairs. and I'll get to that at the end of the show and who I'm bringing on here next week on UAP

and I'm super excited about it so let you know who that is. But, I mean, Lou is on the Daily Show just a couple days ago and that clip is going viral because of the reaction from the host. It wasn't John Stewart and forgive me, I don't know who the host was,

but it was kind of like this, you know, ontological shock type of moment for the host and for some people in the studio audience where he was saying, yeah, this is happening, yeah, you know, pilots and soldiers are seeing this. Yes, I was involved in this program. Yes, aliens are here, and we can't explain the craft that we're seeing. So that message is getting out there more than I have ever seen in my entire life.

And I mentioned this with Patrick in our previous episode when he and I were talking. And it's worth mentioning again, think what you want about Lou Elizondo. The fact of the matter is he is getting this message out there. He's getting the conversation out there. and guys like Jay Stratton do that as well. So I think they do great work in bringing public eyes, more public eyes, to this conversation. So if it is Jay Stratton, who again is supposed to be coming out with a very scintillating book. We'll see how that goes.

Lou already has this. It's number one bestseller, New York Times bestseller. So you see the public interest in this when his book Imminent solely focusing on this subject. and that goes to number one on the New York Times bestseller list, that is a big deal. So will they testify? Or maybe one of them testifies. It is rumored that Luella Zondo will be one of the people to testify. The reason being is because he publicly said he wants to testify in the next UAP hearing.

So you would think they would bring him on if he's putting himself out there to come on and talk. I think that would be a very big moment. Some other names that have come up. Actually, I saw Robert Salas, who is of course. involved with the Malmstrom incident back in the 1960s. He wrote on Twitter and I'm not, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn here. This is just something I came across on, on his own Twitter where Robert Salas said that he has reached out to congressional members volunteering himself, much like Lou Elizondo was on a video,

volunteering himself to say, I want to be up there. In fact, I had Robert Salas here on the show over a year ago talking about the first congressional here in the first round. And he said he wants to do it. He wants to be up there. And I think he should be. I think Robert Salas deserves his time in front of Congress to speak about what he's seen over his years and what he experienced going back to the 60s. Because that will highlight the fact that this isn't something new. And a lot of people who I think are new to the conversation think this stuff just started happening when in fact it's been happening for decades. Of course, going back to Roswell in 1947 and Robert Salas's case back in the 60s during the Malmstrom Air Force Base incident.

We have more on Malmstrom today as well in the current day. So I think someone like Robert Salas would be extremely valuable when it comes to a public testimony. We'll see if they reply. Robert says that Congress has not replied to his open request to testify on the new hearing. So we'll see what comes to that. And who ends up leading it?

If it is Nancy Mason, who ends up on the stand? but apparently it's happening, which is big enough on its own. And when it does happen, I can't help but to think, will we get more moments from Tim Burchett? Because he was just speaking on an interview last week about some of the stories he's been told. Here's a little bit of that. I was talking to a pilot a couple of months ago,

and I remember he held his hand up, his right hand up, and he turned it sideways, and he said, Tim, that thing was 14 feet from my canopy. Obviously a jet pilot, and he was with this craft, whatever it was. And then we have testimony, sworn testimony of some brave Americans that served our country and our military, said that sworn testimony, they said that what they saw was nothing that we have in our arsenal, our friends or our enemies have. and so that that leaves me to one other conclusion one other conclusion right and that is something that

continues to be the case and i like that uh burchette really highlighted the sworn testimony aspect of this because we saw that with the three witnesses in the first congressional hearing people forget about that too i think the casual observer anyway forget that that was sworn testimony from david grush in that clip that i just played with with nancy mace everything he said and that favor and graves said that day was all sworn testimony under penalty of perjury in front of Congress. That's a big deal. I don't think those guys would ever risk that for what? What are they getting out of it? So for Timberchette to again really, you know, put that spotlight on there and say sworn testimony from pilots talking about things they can't explain, it's really important. He also had this to say. The federal government continues to, um,

try to send us down different rabbit holes. They'll send us people to speak that have no knowledge and tell us we don't know what we're talking about. And then when we talk about specifics, they kind of run for cover. Cover up, huh? Specifics running for cover. And that's what they're up against. So who is behind all of this, right?

Who are the gatekeepers? We can always assume that it's the defense contractors. That's where I always fall. And maybe that's the answer to some. of the UAP sightings, right? We've spoken about that, where maybe some of the things that these pilots are seeing are U.S. technology, even beyond anything that they know that we have because it's on a need-to-know basis.

I've seen that theory a lot of times. And I suppose it's possible that only a handful of people know that some of these things that we're seeing are U.S. technology, that they are not willing to admit to, a la the three orbs in the MH370 case. So is it possible? Absolutely. Maybe a lot of these people are just completely left in the dark. Or it could be both.

That's what we're trying to find out. It could be, you know, secret tech, black ops, government programs, and it could be an extraterrestrial scenario as well. Those are the answers we're trying to find. And also on the Senate side, remember what Marco Rubio said? Marco Rubio, of course, from my state here in Florida, has been all over this for a while. He was one of the original people to come out

during that New York Times article from Leslie Keene. So this, I think, was about a year or two ago, but this clip was resurfacing of Marco Rubio when he had this to say. We have people that have very high clearances, both today and in the past, who did really important work for our government or continue to do important work for the government,

who have come forward with some claims. about the U.S. having in the past recovered exotic materials and then we reverse engineered those materials to make advances in our own defenses and technologies. That's the claim they make. Now, I don't know if those claims are true or not. What I do know is that one or two things is happening here. Either they're telling the truth,

and that is something that obviously would be the biggest story in human history, or we have people in really important positions of government who are crazy. Either one is a big problem. So we've got to figure out which one of these two it is, But we just don't know. That's the answer. I really like the way he does quantify that.

And it's really just interesting to hear a lot of these people say the same thing, right? They acknowledge that these reports are coming in from high-level people, pilots and, you know, people within the intelligence communities and soldiers and all these different people who are in these high-ranking positions are coming out with these reports, not, again, not just in the past couple of years, but within the past decades. decades. And to hear this continued acknowledgement going back, you know, five years like that clip from Marco Rubio. I don't know if it's exactly five years old. Maybe I think it's about two years old, but you get the idea. And then to hear Timberchette talk about it, to hear Nancy Mason in that line of questioning, to hear Mark Kelly talk about it like he did at the start of the episode, Senator Gillibrand. They're all saying the same thing. And they're not the only ones. Here was HR McMaster. Yes, there's more. Even someone like retired Army General.

HR McMaster, he came out to talk about this. He was on Bill Maher's show, and Bill Maher was asking him about the UAP issue. Here's what he had to say. Years ago when there were sightings of UFOs, it was some farmer in the middle of nowhere. Okay, now it's Navy personnel who say, look, we see this thing and we cannot explain it. Well, I mean, there are things you can't explain. I mean, there are things that cannot be explained. And so I don't know what the explanation is for those unexplainable things,

but I will say that there are phenomena that, have been witnessed by multiple people that are just inexplicable by any kind of, you know, the science available to us. Well, I guess hence the name unidentified, right? And I actually put out on, on X on Twitter that this was a big deal. I retweeted that clip. And of course, you heard Bill Moore in the beginning asking the question. And I said this is a big deal.

And I had some people reply, why is it a big deal? And I think it's a big deal because, well, it's the reason is twofold. Number one, you have a big show in the Bill Maher show. again, think of the guy what you will. I'm not here to talk about any of that, but it's a big show. And for him to come out and frame the question the way he framed it, which was kind of tugging cheek in the beginning,

talking about this used to be something where farmers in the middle of a field would report sightings, but then getting serious and saying, now it's Navy pilots. And that's exactly where we are now. And then to hear McMaster talk about it openly, again on that platform it's a big platform that billmore has so to hear a big master a big name within the intelligence community a former army general or i should say retired army general and to answer that way in very similar in how rubio and bruchette and markelly answered these discussions are happening and they're in the forefront when it comes to people in dc so whether or not they're in the forefront of our everyday lives right and It is for me, obviously, but for a lot of people, it's not.

For the people who make decisions and decide on legislation, it's in the forefront for them during an election cycle, by the way. And I think that should say a whole bunch. And all this is happening while more high-profile sightings continue to happen, that include China, Montana, and continued multiple reports of orbs in several states. throughout the USA. First, let me go to China.

A mass siding took place on the night of September 11th that ended up shutting down the Tianjin International Airport. Yes, it shut down the airport, a mass siding of orbs and triangles. Many people reported seeing strange blinking lights throughout the area, not just over the airport. There are several videos all over social media from that night that were taken from open fields, taken from the town, And even from the airport itself, people on board different airplanes were taking videos of being deplained because the flight wasn't going to take off.

The videos show that are out there what looked like to be some type of orange blinking orbs that are actually bunched together. We're talking about like a swarm, a formation here. In one video, one of the UFOs even resembles, like I said, a triangle shape. Now, all that said, the official report from Chinese officials, and I think this is, you know, worth pretty out there because since it wasn't mass sighting, they were talking about this. And they said what people saw were just some drones. That's the official report from Chinese officials, drones.

Now, in my opinion, respectfully, I ain't buying that. Because these craft did not look like drones to me. Maybe they're drones that I can't even comprehend that exist. In fact, there is one picture. in particular from that sighting that really struck me because it didn't look like a drone to my eyes. It shows what seems to be, and I'm hesitant to say it, but it looks like a giant UFO peeking out of the clouds with all sorts of lights going around this saucer shape.

And I think I actually did retweet that a couple days ago. So if you haven't seen it, you can check it out at UA Podcast 850. Again, several pictures from these sightings. And this one was during the day. It's blue sky behind. And this was really an extraordinary mass sighting. And in China, of all places, which I say that because you don't normally hear about it when it comes to these types of sightings. You don't hear a lot about mass sidings taking place in China.

And the information getting out there for everybody to see. It's also striking to me how we always ask if what we're seeing here could be adversarial tech coming from the likes of China. That's a question I've asked a million times when I speak to, you know, our insider Anthony Williams. I ask him probably almost every other interview. And in private conversations I have, I ask him all the time, are you sure these things aren't China? Are you sure these orbs that we're seeing over New Mexico and Arizona and California and everywhere else aren't secret drones from China? And now we're seeing them over China. So when we have these types of sightings in the United States, we always ask those questions.

but if that was the case this time, then they were using their own tech over their own commercial airspace within filming distance of their own citizens. So I personally don't see the Chinese government using their own secret tech in a hugely accessible area, including over an airport. So in short, this case, to me, goes down as an official unsolved mass siding.

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And then also back here in the U.S. with a siting that I actually found personally intriguing. You heard me mention Montana, not only because of how public it was, and this was a very public sighting, but it was reported on by the likes of Ross Coldheart as well, along with the Daily Mail out of the UK. But I find this personally intriguing because it completely matches some of the sightings that I have been raving about for the past few months. I've come on here so many times and saying, why isn't anyone mentioning these giant triangles flying over secret nuclear installations in Colorado and Wyoming? I've asked it many times.

And now here we have a report of giant UFOs flying near our nuclear installations in Montana. And this time, it's video proof of a giant saucer-shaped UFO, spotted only an hour away from, yes, you guessed it, because I talked about it earlier, from Mountie. from Air Force Base. And of course, we know the history of that location. I mentioned Robert Salas earlier. I think it was the second episode of UAPI ever did called The Day the Nukes went

dead. They shut down the entire system. And of course, that siding had multiple witnesses back in the 1960s. And now this siding all had multiple witnesses that described the craft as having blinking lights all around it as it flew overhead. Giant UFO blinking lights flying overhead. Kind of almost not to the degree of the Phoenix lights, but when you talk about mass sightings, it's a little similar.

And just like the reports out of Colorado I was talking about, this craft also was close to one of our nuclear sites. And like I just mentioned, in this case, it was Malmstrom Air Force Base. So what we have here is a continued incursion into our most sensitive military areas. Now, this has now been going on for over 60 years, okay? And we still only have speculation as to why it continues to happen. Why do these craft, whether there are beings inside or not, okay, for lack of a better term, manned or unmanned craft,

why do they continue to have a special interest for decades? Again, not for the past few years, but for the past 60 to 70 years have an interest in our nuclear. weapon capabilities. Your guess is as good as mine. It could come down to protection. That's what Robert Salas talks about. It could come down to keeping tabs on our capabilities. So they know how far along we're coming in weapons developments.

Or it could be something else. The fact is, it continues to happen. And no one can stop it. And that's actually what Lou Elizondo was saying as well. on his recent appearance on The Daily Show. And I can't help but to wonder, will this very subject, the incursions over our nuclear installations, will this be a point of contention in the new hearings, whether on the Senate and Congress or both? How much will we focus on one of the main questions of this subject?

I think it should absolutely be a focus, but I'm not the one testifying. At least I don't think so. No one's asked me. So with all that laid out, what else will we learn as we head into these? new hearings. And no doubt we will continue to see more UAP encounters that only seem to becoming more and more bold as time goes on, quite frankly. So is this all a precursor? I can't help but to wonder this as well. And I hate to throw it out there again, but we're getting closer and closer. Is it a precursor to the now fabled October disclosure timeline that we've

been discussing here for months? Or will the forces who lie in the shadows continue to cover up the truth? or not. Speaking of those forces in the shadows, did we just kind of find out who one of those shadowy figures might be? And could it be a very familiar name? Well, enter into the conversation none other than former Vice President Dick Cheney, Vice President on George W. Bush back in the 2000s. How does he fit into all of this, you may be asking? Well, apparently, he may be one of the key players behind the scenes that is working to keep all of this a secret from the general public by any means necessary. I mean, by any means necessary, according to some of the reports out there.

But why Dick Cheney? It feels like it comes out of the left field a little bit. But when you consider how it may connect to, I mean, let's face it, extremely secretive and lucrative government contracts, it starts to kind of make sense when you remember his... Well, let's just say notorious, I guess, you know, willingness for war. That's, again, now a political statement. I think everybody knows that about Dick Cheney. Okay.

And according to some of the chatter behind the scenes, Dick Cheney runs with a really bad crowd who will, again, stop at nothing to keep this all a secret. Now, this all could just be hearsay and rumors, and he may not have anything to do with it. but all this information has come out recently that he may not only be running with this crowd, but he might be the one at the head of the table, Dick Cheney. It's a wild thought, but one worth keeping in the back of our minds for now as things continue to develop. And as always, I'm going to continue to do my best to gather all the relevant info and bring it to you here on UAP.

But before we go here today, as we've covered this gamut of topics and, everything going on. My goodness, what a time. It's just incredible. And I can't wait to come back on the new episode. I'm already so excited for next week and what's going to happen because we don't know. I love sitting back with you and watching this all develop. And I just want to say real quick before I wrap up that I truly feel so privileged and thankful. And I want to make sure that you know that. How incredibly thankful and privilege that I feel every time I get to come on here and talk to you on this show about this subject because it's one for me just like you that I've cared about for a long time and the reason

why I'm so thankful and it feels so privileged to do it is because you like hearing me talk about it and that's amazing to me and it means everything to me so thank you again so much I always I always end the show by saying thank you and there's a reason for that it's always the last thing I say it's because I truly mean it. I'm so thankful that you want to hear me talk about these things because it means so much to me. And I'm so happy that I get to bring it to you in a way that I hope is informative and entertaining in a way that kind of in the end still leaves us wondering and curious what's going to happen next. So I wanted to let you know that, that I just like you, I love sitting back and watching this all unfold.

as things happen in real time. And then the fact that I get to come on and discuss it with you is just the cherry on top. It's really an incredible time. So I can't wait to see what happens next. But before we go, I did want to play this one last clip because I played a lot of clips of pretty important people and people in the know who talk about stories that they're told and interviews that they've had with pilots and all, you know, all these different aspects of the conversation, right? These were all high-powered people that we were talking about here today. And again, for the love of mercy, this is not a political statement, okay? But Donald Trump, who of course, former President Trump and running for president right now,

also has had a lot to say about this recently. In fact, he was just on a show on Fox News, the Greg Gutfeldt show, excuse me, where he was asked about Area 51 and aliens. And well, here's what he had to say. They were in the Oval Office, three or four pilots. These are not people that make up stories. They said, all I know, sir, is there was a round object that was going four times faster than my F-22, which is a very fast plane. They've seen things that they cannot explain.

Seeing things they cannot explain, guys who are not going to make things up. All these high-level people are saying the same types of phrases, and they all have the same type of takeaways when they talk to different pilots or officials. It's just fascinating to kind of put all the puzzle pieces together and hear that time and time again. So something's going on, obviously. The question is, when are we going to find out exactly what that is? But with all that being said, that will do it for this episode of UAP, episode 84 of the Unidentified Alien podcast. Next week, I mentioned earlier that I will be talking to somebody who's in the know when it comes to the happenings anyway. Lou Elizondo, and I'll be asking him about Lou Elizando, amongst many other things.

I cannot wait to speak with Stephen Bassett, who is just an incredible figure within the UAP community. He's been on several national news outlets throughout the years. He's one of the co-chairs of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, along with my good friend, Dan Harari, who's a great guy. So I cannot wait to talk to Stephen Bassett next week here on UAP along with, and this is fantastic. I can't wait to talk to her.

Christina Gomez, who has a fantastic show on YouTube that she does on this subject as well. So two wonderful guests that I cannot wait to bring to you and have the conversations here on UAP. Next week, Christina Gomez separately, not at the same time, Christina Gomez and Stephen Bassett coming up next week on what happens to be UFO Twitter Week, which I did not know. So we're going to have a lot of fun.

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with all of the amazing things going on and with those interviews I spoke about. So until next time, be well. Thank you so. much. I'll talk to you again soon here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Thanks.