UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 9: Ancient Alien Mysteries part 1

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

Diener and Karen dive deep into one of the most disputed topics in UAP lore...the ancient alien mystery. Join them for part one of this special two-part series as they explore and break down some of the most questioned sites in the world, including some you may have never heard of before. Did you know that there is a UFO at the bottom of the Baltic Sea?...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And this is, I'm just going to tell you right off the bat, before Karen goes into her patented tidbits before we. go into the subject material. It's patent pending. Yes, it is. That's true. This is a special two-part series that we're doing. And the reason being, because, well, number one, there's so much to talk about when it comes to what we teased last week in the ancient

alien realm, not to get to, you know, copycat when it comes to some of the things that you've seen on the show. But we do want to cover a little bit differently and anything that you've seen before when it comes to so many different weird things. and alien aspects and how it relates to today. And with it being that there's so much. And also with it being, this is episode number nine, Karen. And next week, that means it's episode number 10.

Can you believe it already? Unreal. So. I mean, this is since the government came out recently and basically said UFOs and aliens are real. Yes. And so I went, okay, maybe there is something to this. And Stephen Deener's been all over this topic since he was, you know.

It's probably a teenager, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, so I went to him because I knew he knew what was going on. I said, let's group together and try to figure out what's really going on. So when you hear Puma Poonku and you hear Gubeckle-Tube, you might think, I already know about this because I watch ancient aliens. No. No, this is very different.

And it's going to be different for the next couple episodes because this is part one. So part one is episode nine of UAP. And then our special anniversary episode 10 next week will finish off this ancient alien series, which will be part two. What is 10th anniversary? Wood, tin, paper or something? I'm going to go with flowers. I don't know.

I feel like flowers always work for an anniversary. So I will let you lead the way, Karen. What do we have here first? Because there's so much to get to. There is so much to get to. And, you know, a lot of the things we're going to talk about today were actually constructed, you know, thousands of years before Christ, right, BC? And do you know when the wheel was invented?

1974. Am I off on that? The 1974. campus came with real wheel positraction. It's a trick question. No. Fourth century, BC, now they've also changed that. BC before Christ does now become before common era.

Right, BCE, but we like the old school way. Yeah, before Christ, the whole calendar is based on the big guy. Yeah, BC and AC, but nevertheless, that is something that's true. So you're going back, you know, obviously a few thousand years when the wheel was invented. Well, the point is that, okay, it was invented 4th century BC, but this other stuff was built amazingly without the wheel? Right. So it kind of makes you wonder. By stuff we mean, and we're going to get to it in the two-part series, the pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island, how they all relate, and all these other things that we're going to talk about here today, too, like Pumapunku.

And we mentioned it briefly last week. So let's go ahead and dive into it, as they say, because it's so fascinating. And all this stuff is fascinating. And everything we've covered is fascinating. And like you said, the reason we got into it is because of the governments, I guess you can say, reveal that, yes, we don't know what these things are, but they are real. So it begs the question, well, if they're real, how long have they been here? And is it possible that they did help people in ancient times to make things like Pumapunku. That it has these perfect straight lines and the math is perfect.

And it's math that we still have trouble calculating today and how these things were built. Yeah. So that's the part that always gets me about these ancients. you know, structures is these things are perfectly, when you look at mathematically, physics-wise, they're perfect. How do you do that? You can't even get a piece of paper in between some of these seams. And what's under the oceans? We don't even know. Maybe there were other civilizations more advanced than us that were on Earth way before us, because you have what? Gobeckley, Tebe is like 11,000 BC.

Right. And then you've got Puma Punku, which is like, like, like between 300 and 1,000 AD. Is that correct? Yes. Yeah, yeah. No, that was prior to the Inca Empire. That's right. Which is 300 to 1,000.

Pumabuku was before that with the Tijuanau. Which is amazing to think about. Again, which is the ancient times, how advanced these civilizations were. And the question is how? Maybe they were just really smart. Maybe they figured things out for themselves. But, I mean, it does beg the question. No, I think they had help.

I do. Now, Stephen has gelded and moosed his hair. It's standing straight up. That's right. And he's wearing a chunk of turquoise on a leather strap as a choker around his neck. And here he is. Below the plateau where the H blocks are located under steps and walls, marking the edges off the Puma Punku Mound.

Now I can truly see the scale of the site. Okay, so why, yeah, Georgiosuclos, I love him. He's on ancient aliens. We had to give a little nod to him. We were talking about ancient aliens. We did. I was going to send Stephen down to Bolivia to check out Pumapu, but he didn't have his passport. So I sent Giorgio down for us to get the audio down there.

So, of course, that is not Stephen. And Pumopunku is the name of that large temple complex that's located near Tijuanau in Bolivia. And it is part of a larger archaeological site known as, oh, my gosh, Tiahu Kanukshanu. I'll give that one to you. That's fine. Because you know why I'll give it to you? Because you tried. Pat, may I buy a vowel?

That's right. So the temple's origin is a mystery, and it's based on. on carbon dating, which is what they do to figure out how old the rocks are. And archaeologists believe that the complex may have been built by the Tijuanau empire, one of the most important civilizations prior to the Incas. Right. And it's, again, amazing. And we'll have all these photos.

If you're not familiar with the structure itself, you can just go to 850WFTL.com, search for the UIP blog, where we have all of the previous podcasts as well. If you've missed any of the podcast, all the previous episodes are on there, one through eight. And we're also going to have on there pictures of some of these structures that we're talking about. Supporting images on everything. By the way, so last week we told you about the quartz that these rocks, that they make up stonehenge. They're like 99% of this crystal quartz that is indestructible. Well, Tijuana and Puma Punku, their stonework is what makes it so intriguing.

Right. Again, because you're talking about stuff that it was architecture that wasn't figured out until, at least modern times, thousands of years later. Now, when you're talking about the pyramids and Stonehenge and things like that, yes, it was being done. But how were they doing this? How were they cutting through this rock? How were they moving it? I mean, that's been the age-old question for years. Stonehenge, I guess they got the stones from Wales and then they moved them like 200 miles on what logs.

they rolled them along. But the stonework was more, I don't know, it wasn't as exact as Pumuuku is just like incredible stonework. It's like was the rock molten and they poured it into a mold? Or did they have some sort of a diamond cutting device? Because Giorgio Sucalo says that that's the only way they could get those edges so perfect and so sharp. You can actually cut your finger on one of the edges.

of these things. It's just so exact. And that's the crazy thing to me when it comes to, you know, people say, oh, well, what's the big deal? They just move some rocks around. Well, first of all, these are thousands of tons each. So again, how are you moving in around? But aside from that, what are they using to cut so perfectly into these stones? Yeah, here's Georgio. The cuts from the diamond saw were the best comparison to those found on the stone blocks at Puma Punku. So we're talking about the sharpest, most sophisticated cutting tool we have today. So how could a so-called primitive society have achieved such sophisticated stone carving techniques? Exactly.

Right. So that is the question, and Giorgio puts it perfectly there. And if you don't know who that is, just you know the guy, the memes where he has the giant hair and he's got his hands out and says aliens. He's like a Greek guy from Switzerland. Is that right? Yes. That's why he's got that technique. How about that?

Yeah. But so what makes Puma Punku so fascinating why we wanted to spend time on it first year today is, like, you are there, how are they able to cut through this stone? And essentially, after doing studies on it, the only way you could really cut through it was with the sharpest tool that we know of to man to date, which is the diamond saw. They didn't have the diamond saw that we know of, you know, 3,000 years ago, whatever it is, when this was around. And it's interesting when you look at Puma Punku because it kind of looks like almost a long. city the way that's it's that was destroyed as well i mean yeah all these h blocks as they call them right interlocking correct and you some of them you can't they're so precise the stones are cut so precisely that they fit perfectly into the a lock and key type of situation with each other without

using mortar and not even a razor blade can slide between the rocks right so you're talking about precision machine quality that you can only be done at least we thought could only be done today with 3D printers and lasers and computer graphics. And they're doing this before the advent of those things. So how? They don't have the wheel. They don't have anything that Stephen just said. They don't have a writing system.

Right. Nothing. But meanwhile, they have these giant stones that are thousands, you know, hundreds of tons. That we can't recreate today. Right. And that's the thing. If you want to try to do this today, it's extremely hard, if not impossible, to get these perfect edges, to get the perfect squares inside.

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Learn more at SMC.edu. Well, the other thing is not only are they exactly cut, they're huge. Yes. They're Mamma Jama stones, man. They're of mammoth proportion. They're like 25.6 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 3.5 feet thick, and they weigh about 131 metric tons. My gosh. And due to their size, we don't know how they got them to Puma Punku, because it's way high up.

The quarry, apparently, in Lake Titicaca, pardon me. It's roughly 10 kilometers away. Right. Now, there is something interesting about the stones that may indicate how they moved them and did everything. They're kind of magnetic. Here's our friend Giorgio. Check out this block right here. There's something really cool about this one.

First, I wanted to show you True North on my compass, which, as you can see, this is True North. Now, watch what happens. All of a sudden, True north is over there. It's in the complete opposite direction. And here, even more so, down there. Hmm, this is wild. So what is going on here?

Clearly, this rock has been somehow magnetized. So was it exposed to some electromagnetic waves? Or is it like this because at some point, some point, these blocks underwent or came in contact with something strange. I mean, this whole place is bizarre. I mean, it's hard to refute. Obviously, it was investigated during ancient aliens. And you hear it there.

There's so many questions with that. And that's the thing that I always find fascinating, Karen, when it comes to looking into all these things. I know I'm not really going to get any answers. What's going to happen is I'm just going to get more questions. That's right. I love to think of the possibilities and the theories behind how is there true north in two different places? Why would these be magnetized?

And if it was affected by some outside source, say maybe an anti-gravity technology, then how is that residue still on the stone that would be creating some type of polar opposite magnetism? It's just, it's incredible, really, when you sit down and think about it. It's baffling. It is baffling. But maybe it was some sort of space. hub for aliens to come in and land. It's possible. You know, and there's lots of gold in the area.

And we know that aliens love gold. So we've heard. But, you know, Earth has a lot of gold, comparatively speaking. And it all got here via meteor or asteroid. It's not just something that occurs. When a star explodes, then the gold flies out in the universe in these meteors, and then they hit the earth, and that's where we get the gold deposit. That's why it's a finite source.

It's true. But it's very necessary. It's such a conduit for, and it can do so many things. It's malleable. It's amazing. Gold is amazing. It is, actually. On episode 11 of UAP, we'll be talking about all gold, the properties of gold.

I'm kidding. I did it. In high school, I did a term paper on gold. Did you really? So I'm so fascinated by it. Yeah. It does so many different things. Well, they do talk about how aliens, I mean, theories anyway, and different stories from

sources, who talk about where these alien beings, different species, one of the resources that they tried to mine on Earth, one of the reasons why they would come here is for gold because they use it as a resource. They did. By the way, the Tijuana-Styuanaku style of artifacts were found in Peru as well as Bolivia and as Argentina. So that shows their far-reaching political

and economic influence in the region, so maybe they had help from aliens in developing their society. We're talking, again, way before Christ. Right, right. Which, by the way, Puma Punku was in the Bible. Bible references to Puma Punku. That's true.

So if it's in the Bible, it's Ferrella Gorilla, okay? How about that? Making the connections here today. So there was a lot to go over there with Puma Punku, and I know there's so much more, too. Where are we going next, Karen? The Baltic Sea anomaly. You brought this to my attention. Ocean exploration team led by the Swedes found what some suggested maybe a flying saucer on the sea floor.

What do you think? And we'll have the image up at our below. blog, APWDFTL.com, UAP. But there's like skid marks behind a large object that suggested that it may have moved across or crashed on the sea floor. So the question is, and I think this was what, discovered 10 years ago or so in the Baltic Sea? Yeah. It was discovered by basically these guys who were, you know, trying to get sonar readings

on the bottom of the ocean floor treasure hunters, really. They were looking for different things in the Baltic Sea. And they come across this weird image on their sonar. It's perfectly round, which doesn't happen in nature. It doesn't, right? There's no straight lines in nature, which is, you know, that means it's an indication that it's man-made or made by someone. And also, a circular formation doesn't happen. It's usually something jagged.

It's, you know, kind of misshaped when it comes to a natural formation. Just look at the Grand Canyon as an example, okay? It's all over the place. It's zigzags and everywhere. So when it comes to this, they've looked at the image on their sonar and they see this thing that pops up. It almost looks like, think of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars. Right. It kind of looks like that.

So they see that and they go, what the heck is this thing that's sitting on the bottom of the Baltic Sea right now? So after different investigations and studies on it and other pictures, there's been artist renderings of what it would look like. When you see the renderings, it looks like the Millennium Falcon. It looks like a spaceship that crashed in the bottom of the sea floor. It looks like Han Solo ship. The Millennium Falcon from Star Wars. Why don't you y'all run them? I thought you said this thing was fast. Watch your mouth, kid. You're going to find yourself floating home.

What's that flashing? We're losing it up like a shield. Both trap yourselves in. I'm going to make a gentle light speed. But what's interesting is there's another thing that's nearby, another object, and it's a smaller disc-shaped object that's nearby, and both have a rigid tail or drag marks that are more than 400 meters, about 437 yards long. for those of you who aren't metrically inclined.

Like myself. Me too. Their size is distinctive and their shape as well. And it generates peculiar theories. Like what? What is it? Well, that's the question. So there's been, like I said, the past 10 years, there have been different claims on this thing.

Some skeptics say, you know, when you do sample studies, which they have on some of the rock, because it's essentially a stone formation. So I don't know how it could be a spaceship if it's a stone formation. But maybe it was a model. You know, maybe it was something like you would say. see with a stonehenge. Maybe it was a memorial like we would see today where something is made out of brick or stone.

So it's definitely made out of stone? Right. So this was made out of some type of stone and they've done some studies on it and they find that it does have some natural elements to it. But then you have people saying, well, you have other geologists say, well, this is a natural formation. You have other saying, no, it can't be a natural formation

for all the reasons that I and you just mentioned. So the fight goes on with this one. And I know it's hard to explain if you haven't seen picture, but again, just think of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars. The picture looks like that. So how would something in stone be that shape sitting on the bottom of the seat? I don't know that they actually got down there and tested it because they've just used sonar images and they potentially are miscalibrated side scan sonar images and we perhaps need future exploration with better equipment

to finally solve the mystery. I don't think they know it's stone. They've come across some different facts about it, but it's all disputed. That's the thing about this one. And the interesting thing about this, I know we said ancient aliens, and this is 10 years ago, so you're probably wondering what the heck you're talking about. It's 10 years ago. It's not ancient. But this structure itself, we don't know how old it is, and we don't know how it got there. So that aspect, yes, this could actually be an ancient structure because it's just sitting on the bottom of the Baltic Sea made out of some type of stone formation. Yeah, it's about 300 feet so they could reach it, 91 meters.

But the second object, Stephen, is more closely resembling a lumpy eggplant or blueberry muffin sprouting what looks like an owl's head. Now, that's an image. Do I need to say more? A blueberry owl. That definitely sounds like an alien thing. It's very odd. So again, you can see that picture.

Some different renderings of it. We'll have the sonar picture on there as well as like an artist rendering of what it would look like supposedly according to the sonar picture and make up your mind on 850wftl.com. You search the UAP blog. Again, we have all the other podcasts on there, but we also will have these pictures up of everything that we're talking about. It definitely looks man-made. But speaking of man-made and stone, I want to talk about something that's right here in our

own backyard, the coral castle. It was built in 1936, so this would be, what, right after? No, during the war. Yeah, just about, yeah. in Florida City by Edward Lidsklin, and he was only five feet tall, and he weighed 100 pounds, Stephen, so he's just widow.

Tiny man, he's like a jockey. He's a tiny man. He could have been a jockey. Now, there were some rumor that he was, he's from Latvia, and he apparently had this 16-year-old girlfriend, and they were going to, I know. Oh, 1936.

You know, things are, unfortunately, were different. They shouldn't have been different, but. Well, then she was young. Yeah. And he wanted to marry her, Apparently she dumped him, so he moved to Florida and was just totally forlorned. So he decided to build the coral castle to pay homage to her and his love for her. So they say, because there's the, like, this sweet 16 device, and they believe that that's, it had, you know, some nod to her.

But anyway, there's a guy that went down there. It's in home, no, where is it? Where did I say? Yeah, I think it's in Homestead. Yeah, it's in Florida City Homestead area, which is way south of Miami. me. But as we record this, today is the 29th anniversary of Hurricane Andrew, which hit about the same spot. And Coral Castle

weathered it just fine. Yeah, that's true. Amazing. But here's David. He's this guy that visited Coral Castle. Right here we have the 9-tong gate. Originally, the slightest touch would move it. But the barriers gave out a few years back. Now you can't even budget. Oh, yeah.

That's some great engineering. Good going, Ed. Yeah, Ed, thank you. But apparently this area is on the United States National register of historic places. You know, it's funny because I've never actually seen this in person. And I don't think we've ever mentioned it before, but Karen and I do this podcast from South Florida.

So we're South Florida based here. So again, when we stay local, this is only a couple hours down south for us when you're talking about the homestead area. And, you know, maybe we should make a field trip one day. Do a little video of Coral Castle. Yeah. I've never seen it in person. But it's one of those things that, again, is very fascinating because how did he build?

this, right? How did you get these giant coral stones to be placed how they're placed, is the question. This little five-foot, 100-pound man. By the way, why is it that Florida always attracts the weirdos? I know. There's always a Florida connection. And he did most of his work at night, which is weird. So I told you about the girlfriend, Agnes Scuffs. So she was 10 years younger than Ed, and he referred to her as his Sweet 16, and she canceled the wedding the day before their ceremony. So he was sadden and he came here, as I said, to build this coral castle single-handedly, sculpting over 1,100 tons of coral rock as his testimony of lost love. So you're telling me that this guy is literally saying that he did build this. He did.

And I'll explain how he did it. Really? So how do you know, Karen, how do you know how this mysterious coral castle with all these different shapes, by the way, if you've never seen this, there's something that looks like a crescent moon, there's a big. sphere. He's able to sculpt the coral. So he's sculpting. Now, if you're not familiar with coral, it is, you know, he's pretty easy to sculpt. It's usually something that can be moved around, of course, in small chunks. Not really because Ernest Hemingway has a house in Key West, and his wife wanted to build a swimming pool. And so she hired all these Cubans to dig. Key West is an island built out of

coral. And so all these Cubans had to dig the pool. And Ernest Heminghammer when we put a penny at the end of the pool because he said my wife spent my last penny building this pool because it was so difficult to carve out the coral. Really? Yeah. So how was this little five foot tall 100 pound lot being man able to build these giant coral

structures? Okay. Please, please tell me. Out of love. This is like the Taj Mahal of South Florida. It is actually. So he quarried logs using tripods made out of tree trunks that stand 25 to 35 feet tall. And he could move the tripods.

He had these little devices that would move the feet of the tripods. And the tripods with the hoist were able to lift the rocks. And coral limestone rock can be cut with a wood saw. I don't know if you knew that. And then he had wedges and flywheel.

So the wedges he would put just the same as the Egyptians did with the pyramids. They'd pound in the wedges along in a line. And then you could hear it as you were pounding when it was going to crack off. and they would crack off. And then he was able to sculpt it

with this flywheel contraption and a six-foot stone chisel he had. He had weights, levers, rolling surfaces. He built a multitasking sculpting machine powered by car batteries. He had this whole bunch of car batteries, and that's how he lit it up at night because it's hot in Florida.

So he was too hot to build in the day, so he would build at night, and he would light everything up with an aerial electric system using these multiple car batteries. And then he had a sweet 16 machine that had 16 magnets and a magnetic flywheel. And it was the key to making the wheel part of the reed stick. I don't know any of this, but he was like quite the engineer.

And it was self-propelled. And he had a water pumping system, horizontal and vertical, reciprocating saw and a chipping tool. My gosh. Where did he get all this? I know, 1936. That's pretty impressive. That's very impressive. And again, the reason that we bring this up is,

not exactly ancient times. It's less than 100 years ago. It's 85 years ago. But they were talking about a guy that maybe used ancient techniques to build something similar to what we see in ancient times. So is it possible that the ancient people of Pumapunku or anywhere else, you know, Egypt and we'll get to all that stuff later on in part two? but is it possible that they used some of these techniques? Would it explain how, say, just for example, because we're talking about today, a place like Puma Punku could have been built?

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Yeah, in terms of Coral Castle, Ed really used magnetic current, which goes back to Puma Punku. Right. with the magnetically charged rock. Right, right. And that changed polarization. But kind of like Stonehenge, how did they get those huge blue stones from whales? Well, in this case, how did Ed get the stones from 10 miles away from the quarry? Well, Ed had the chassis of an old republic truck, and he had a friend with the tractor trailer.

You see, okay, there you go. Number one, there's your first lesson for today. You always have a friend who has a tractor trailer because you never know when you want to build a tractor trailer. because you never know when you want to build a coral castle. Yeah, Ed was simple. He didn't have a car back then, but he would ride his bicycle 3.5 miles into town for food and supplies. Oh, my.

But many people saw the coral carvings being moved along Dixie Highway. Really? And no one ever knew what he was doing. It was like all this crap was going on behind walls at night. They're like, are there aliens helping this guy? Well, that was always the question, right? Where they're using some type of anti-gravity technology. Like we talk about, you know, possibly being used during the...

the ancient times because otherwise how else could they move these giant stones that are thousands and thousands of pounds now for ed mr lottby and ed here he had advantages that the ancients did not have he may have used some ancient techniques like we spoke about there but they didn't have tractor trailers no they didn't have pickup trucks you know means to move things at great distances without having to put things on a log and take you 20 years to move it a mile Well, he was only a fourth grade education. He had a fourth grade education. Is that right?

And he built an AC current generator. He was like a Tesla. Oh, my gosh. And it remains one of, it's on display there at Coral Castle. And because there are no records from witnesses on how he built it, it's baffled engineers and scientists. And his secret of construction have also been compared to Stonehenge and the pyramids. But in 1951, he got sick. Uh-oh.

And he put a sign on the door of his castle saying, going to the hospital, took a bus to Jackson Memorial. in Miami and died three days later in his sleep at the age of 64. Oh my gosh. His nephew then from Michigan took over and inherited the castle in 1953. He shortly before his death sold the castle to a family from Illinois. So it's been handed around. But it's still, like I said, it's on the National Registry of Historic Sites. And it's still a running, I guess you can say type of tourist attraction where people can go and

check it out and see this work that is, you know, apparently has stood the test of time. It's the Taj Mahal of South Florida. Yes, it was built out of love. For 28 years he worked on it. Oh, my gosh. Did it really take that long? So this one, you know, obviously for this, it's not as mysterious when it comes to how he did it because we have a little bit of a record anyway since this was done in modern times. It's the old tripod.

Yeah. You know, he used some different techniques. Obviously, he had a truck. He was able to move things around. I still took him almost 30 years to build. So it's not like this happened, you know, in a couple of months. And he was able to do this very quickly. and you'll understand why when you see the pictures of this place on our website 850wFTL.com.

But that being said, it's still something that goes to show how hard it must have been for these ancient people. Well, it's one guy who's five feet tall weighs 100 pounds. And what did I say? He had a fourth grade education. So he's a dumb guy. Not really. He's self-educated. So you look at the pyramids and the Egyptians, and they use.

Jewish slaves, right? Right, sure. Right. As long as we're knocking everything down built by slaves, why don't we knock them down? I'm sorry. No. So the Egyptians had a lot of help to build the pyramids. They used slaves and maybe they used some help from aliens.

Who knows? But the Coral Castle was built by one little guy, five feet tall, weight 100 pounds. Maybe he did have some help from the aliens. Yeah, so, I mean, that's the amazing thing, Karen. When it comes to little Ed there in Miami, how he built this. And then you think about, like we said, some of these more ancient people, and maybe he did use some of those techniques. But it still, to me, doesn't explain how some of these famous sites were built because, you know, I mean, we have another spot still that we haven't got to yet. And we can do that here before we run out of time today on UAP.

What is, what is this last spot? Because this is another one that just made, it's another head scratcher. Well, it's the Go Becli-Tepe. Yes. The civilization in Turkey that was built by a prehistoric people, 6,000 years before Stonehenge. Okay, so you have the wheel invented in 4 BC by Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble. Debbler. And then you have 6,000 years before Stonehenge, which was built when?

Like 2,000 years BC? Somewhere in there. So this thing is like 11,000 years old, they think. But this German archaeologist, Klaus Schmitt. Oh, good old Klaus, yes. Klaus began excavating this mountain top 25 years ago, and he was convinced the buildings he uncovered were unusual and unique. And as he dug, he realized, oh, my God, this is a limestone plateau near Irfa,

called Quebec Litape. Schmidt discovered more than 20 circular stone enclosures. The largest was 21 meters across, a circle of stone with two elaborately carved pillars, and they have, like, things carved on them, like, I don't know, lizards and animals. and there was pottery, metal tools. They're 11,000 years old or more, making them humanities. Oldest known monumental structures, and it's built not for shelter, but for some other purpose. Yeah, these would predate the pyramids by thousands of years.

I mean, this would show a civilization, quite frankly, somewhat advanced civilization to be able to build a stone city, if you will, with all these carvings within the stone. And again, these pictures will be up with all the other ones in 850 WFTL. Just search UAP. All the pictures from what we talked about today will be up there. But a lot of it's still underground. Hasn't been excavated yet? That's true.

So there's a lot of unanswered questions with this. And again, it just you start to think to yourself, okay, the carvings, and this can go for anything, too. Think about today, right? We take pictures. We see something strange. We don't understand what it is or it's something exciting. We take a picture. And that's how we show it off today.

Or someone will have an artist drawing, an artist rendering. back then they didn't have cameras right they didn't have a pen and paper the only thing they can do was all right i got to show somebody this i'm going to carve it in stone they also didn't have any domesticated plants or animals right back then it turns the timeline upside down it really does and when you start looking at some of these carvings in the stone it's like well why you know they're carvings some of these these strange images in there and you start to think to yourself well what were they seeing you know what i mean it's not like I don't think all these old carvings that you find in ancient times are coming from people's imagination. No, it shows complex ritual and social organization. It's usually, you know, something that's built by a civilization that's educated, has tools, has wheels.

They know what they're doing. It's so fascinating to think. How, I wish, if I could go back in time, I would just want to see how these ancient civilizations were able to pull these things off. Because you're looking at whether it's this, whether it's, you know, So Puma Punku are some of the things we're going to talk about in part two of our ancient alien series like the pyramids and Stonehenge and Issa Island coming up next week. It just makes you wonder, okay, yes, we know they're there, but how they lasted this long? How did they get there? Who helped them?

You're telling me these nomads banded together in one place they carved and moved these huge tea pillars and they built these circular enclosures. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. Who were they carved for? Why were they carved? I mean, there's so many... Some ritual, religion, what? Right. There's just, there's so many questions that, and again, when it comes to precise architecture,

that's the thing that always gets to me, Karen, is the precision of some of these. And it's like, my gosh, we have trouble building some of this stuff today. How are they building this five, six thousand years ago? It's like started a Neolithic revolution. So soon people from around the world started flocking there, of course. They're like, what the hell is this? And they have continued to excavate. it to this day. So Gobeckley-Tepe has been added to the UNESCO World Heritage Register. Turkish

tourism officials declared 2019 the year of Gobeckley-Tape. And remember, you had ISIS destroying all of this very old stuff. It makes me ill to think about it. I know. In Iraq, because Iraq is this cradle of civilization. Yeah. You know, that's where Adam and Eve are buried. But I mean, it's just the work on the foundations needed to support the site swooping fabric canopy required archaeologists to dig deeper than they ever thought. So there was several keyhole trenches. The keyhole is a really interesting shape. It's used a lot in Japan and in Asia as well.

That's true. So there's a lot of uninterested questions, and there's a lot of actually questions with some of Japan's architecture. One of them, Karen, and this will be a little tease for our special episode 10 of UAP, which is part two of our ancient alien series. One of the things that we're going to talk about there

is the little known story of the Japanese pyramid. Oh, I like it. So a lot to come up on that next week. But it's kind of to be continued on some of these ancient civilizations that we're talking about here today because, look, there's still excavation going on, right? Exactly. I mean, who knows what we haven't found? Who knows what we don't know? We only know what we don't know.

We don't know what we don't know. Oh, my. I think you're right. How do we know what we don't know? We don't. And what's in like the big, what's that big canyon in the ocean? That big ditch in the ocean. Oh, the Mariana Trench.

Yeah, the Trench. What's down there? Right. It's true. I'm not going down there. You're talking seven miles deep? I have no idea. It's crushing.

But these ships, what do they call them, that go underwater? You? Oh, U.S.Os. Unidentified Simurge objects. They can go as deep as they want. That's true. We're so they say. We digress.

Next week should be a real barn burner. Yeah, so much still to get to here when it comes to the ancient alien series. Like I said, some of the more pyramid things. Japanese pyramids, what, how did that happen? So we're going to get into that next week. And how do all of these famous landsites like Easter Island and Stonehenge and the pyramids, famous landmarks, I should say, how do they all connect? There's a lot still to get to here on part two.

A lot of things were built and looked the same, but they were on opposite sides of the world. And they were done at the same time. By civilizations who didn't know each other. Right. Then how could they make contact? Right. A lot of inventions are made by two different people in two different parts of the world at the same time, kind of like the information just out there in the atmosphere, in the acoustic record, and the, you know, just to be absorbed by someone who's paying attention. So we're going to look at some of these similarities.

It's pretty, it's astounding. It is really. And, I mean, so much fascinating stuff today and next week on part two of ancient aliens. So a lot to get to next week. So come back for the special episode number 10 of UAPE. I believe it. I know. It's nuts.

The Unidentified Alien podcast, but this one was fun, and I can't wait to do episode 10 because still so many things unexplored here when it comes to our ancient alien series. So that'll be really good. I think there's a lot of things screaming around the world that explains how and explains past visits by little people and that we're not paying attention to it. Well, we are. The NASCAR lines. I mean, all of it.

It's just crazy. How did it happen? You have to ask questions. That's right. want to ask questions. You get in trouble when you ask questions. We need to look at the past to get the answers for the future. And that's what we're doing here on our ancient alien series.

On UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast. Hey, I said it at that time. Yay! So, join us next week for a special episode number 10, part two of our ancient alien series. Because it's going to be a doozy. As you can see, in here, we still have a lot to cover in part two. That's right. Download and subscribe.

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