UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 95 "Drone" Frenzy! Lights Around the World

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

From Arizona, to England, to New Jersey, what are these lights that many people are seeing around the world at an alarming rate? Stephen Diener is joined by Tyler Roberts from the Total Disclosure podcast as they discuss what witnesses are calling an unexplainable nightly occurrence.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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over the past week or so, and I'm happy to be back with you here today with, I think, the most up-to-date, current information, I believe. And that's as of right now, as I'm speaking to you because literally an hour after I put out this episode, something else is probably going to happen. So I'm going to do my best to recap everything that's been happening since the Thanksgiving holiday.

Last time I spoke to you was just around that time. So it's been about a week since the last episode where we were talking about the drone incursions over the UK bases. And since then, not only has it continued to happen, but there's been more sightings around different areas of the world and the United States. There is so much to get to that has happened in the past seven days that I hope. hope I can do a good job of bring it all to here today. So here's, it's kind of unconventional how we're, how we're going to do this one today for episode 95. I originally spoke to Tyler Roberts from the Total Disclosure podcast.

Great guy. He and I met while we were waiting in line in Washington, D.C. a few weeks back for the UAP hearings. He was in line with Bob Salas because he was going to get Bob Salas into a meeting with Nancy Mace. In all the years that Bob Salas has been telling his story from his experience at Malmstrom Air Force Base, where the UFOs shut down the nukes that night, in all of his years, when that happened 50 plus years ago, I think even close to 60 years ago, he has never really had the opportunity to fully tell his story to a congressional hearing, like, you know, ever. He's been in different meetings with Arrow and things like that, and he's, you know, had different affidavits and things of that nature. but he's never really got an audience.

You know what I mean? Like something that we saw with the UAP hearings. So one of the missions at that UAP hearing was to get Bob Salas in front of one of these congressional representatives to tell his story in a closed-door setting and then hopefully take it from there. Well, all credit to Tyler Roberts because he was able to do that. And he tells that story during our interview. Now, that's going to be part two.

Okay. So here's where I talk about. it's a little bit unconventional. I broke this up into two parts because we spoke for a little bit over an hour, Tyler and I. And I decided to break it up into two parts because in the first half of the conversation,

we end up discussing a lot of what's been happening. The sightings over the UK bases, the recent, most recent siting in Arizona. I think a lot of people have seen that video by now from the woman named Ashley Rose, where she put up that siting in their neighborhood in Bullshead, Arizona. So a lot of that stuff is what we actually covered first in the first half of the episode.

And we got pretty deep into those conversations going over that video. We play the audio from that video. So you'll hear that with some censorship involved, by the way, because I think as you've noticed over the years, I try to keep it clean here on UAP. I don't really want that explicit rating on it. That's just my personal preference. I'm not really sure it makes a difference one way or the other as far as, you know, what episodes get picked up and what don't. But I just, I like to keep it clean.

That's just my own preference as I produce these episodes. So in that video that Ashley Rose put out when her and her family were seeing those UFOs, I mean just straight up UFOs flying over their neighborhood in Arizona, I went ahead and did some censorship there. So you're going to hear a lot of beeps during that portion of the episode where we're, you're going to hear a lot of beeps. we play back that video. So the first half of the interview, which wasn't the intention, but it just, the conversation went that way, the first half of the interview is really more about the current events that have been taking place up to when we spoke, which was on Sunday, December 1st. Now, today is Wednesday, December 4th.

So just in those three days, there was so much more to report and to get to and to elaborate on that we didn't. get to fully elaborate on during this episode. So part one is right now, you're going to hear that first half of the interview where we discuss those certain subjects there of the UK and out of Arizona. And then part two will be in a couple of days from now where we really focus more on the Washington, D.C. side of things, the interview with Bob Salas and Nancy Mays, how that went, how did Nancy Mays take to that? You know, what was it like for Bob Salas to finally get in front of someone like Nancy Mason tell his story to finally be heard?

heard after 50 plus years of trying to be heard. Really, really cool stuff. So looking forward to you hearing part two as we get into what that was like with Bob Salas and Nancy Mace. But for part one, it's more of like a current events recap. And then stick around for post interview after I ended there for part one with Tyler and I. I'm going to elaborate more on some of the things that I mentioned in the episode and actually

a lot more, like I said, that it's taken place over the past few days that I wanted to touch on and update you on that we didn't get to talk about on the December 1st when we spoke on December 1st because they just hadn't happened yet. So stick around for it after the interview because we're going to go over all of those things as well to try to fully update the scene here. So for right now to start off, here is part one of this interview with Tyler Roberts from the Total Disclosure podcast. Enjoy. All right. And here he is. This is going to be a really fun interview. We're going to cover a lot of stuff here and some exclusive stuff as well. Tyler Roberts from the Total Disclosure podcast.

And he does have some exclusives here today because he was in the room with Bob Salas, with Nancy Mace, a closed door meeting. And I'm sure you've seen it. If you haven't seen it on his channel, we're going to talk a lot about that and what's currently going on. So, Tyler, we've got a lot to cover. Thanks for coming on to UAT here today, man. I appreciate it. Well, it's an absolute pleasure to be here, my friend. And I was super lucky to to meet you in D.C.

And we got to spend a lot of time together that day considering. And, you know, we talked about doing this. And there's so much to talk about now that I'm really excited to be here, to be able to talk with you and to be able to flesh some of these things out. Yeah, man. I appreciate it. And likewise, it was funny how it came about. You know, we've talked about how it feels like it was a year ago. but it also feels like it was yesterday because so much happened.

It was a total whirlwind that day in D.C. And standing in line in the cold freezing air. God, it was so cold. So cold, man. But in line with us was Bob Salas along with Stephen Bassett. So it was kind of like that little group there, Chris Bloodsoe was in that line. And it was just, it was surreal. And I've talked about it before in the show.

So I want to rehash it too much because I'll be repeating myself. But it really was surreal. just the moments in everyone who was there together to experience it. So we're going to get into that. But first, before we get into that day, the closed-door meeting that you had with Nancy Mason, Bob Salas, and Stephen Bassett as well was in the room with you guys. I want to first talk about the things that are going on now because it's funny when we were in D.C. And we said, hey, we got to get together and talk about this afterwards.

We weren't expecting everything else to take place as well since then. with the sightings in D.C. actually, over the Capitol just a few days ago, primarily in the U.K., the so-called drones that have been flying over with impunity over the different bases there, a handful of bases, actually. Some say five, some say six, some say three, but there's a multitude. And the sightings in Arizona recently as well. So I want to start with what's been going on in the U.K. because we were talking off the air, so to speak, before we started. And I got some interesting perspective from you on the drone side of things. So, of course, the reports are that these are drones.

Now, there's a lot of argument what they are. Human, non-human drones, not drones. Of course, the picture at the Manchester Airport with that orb thing that was floating above the tarmac. So we don't know what that was, but apparently it's a real picture, according to some of the investigations that have taken place with the forensic investigation so what is your take on what's happening now in the UK why we see these things what are they what do you think is going on now okay so first of all the picture the picture of that that that that thing on that Manchester airport I'm after I

should have done this already but I'm really good friends with Mark Dantonio who is the chief photo video analyst for Mufon. Now, say what you want about Mufon, but Mark is a wonderful person. So I'm definitely going to send that picture to him or at least get his thoughts on it. I saw it this morning for the first time. It's very interesting. It doesn't, it looks can be deceiving, though, and I'm not sure what to make of it just yet. Now, with drones, the point I made to you before we started recording off air, was that I fly drones. I know the, not the inton, so I'm not an expert by any means, but anyone who flies drones knows that there's restricted airspace.

Now, if you try to fly a commercial drone into one of these restricted air spaces, i.e., an airport, a military base, a government facility, the drone will literally, you will not be able to control it anymore once it gets to this barrier, like say this invisible barrier, you know, the airspace barrier, it'll take itself over and it will fly back to, it will return to sender and it will land. Whether it's a crash landing or a good landing, it doesn't matter. It lands. It comes back to you and it just drops out of the sky basically for a lack of a better.

term. So what intrigues me about this UK drone situation is that rules, really rules out the commercial drone aspect, unless it's from China. Because China, as we all know, they don't have the same FDA regulations as the United States. They just don't have as many regulations in general. and all companies private in China are owned by who? The CCP. That's right. So if they're human, I would tend to think they're Chinese. But if they're not Chinese, then they're not human made.

That's my belief. See where I'm going with this? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And it makes perfect sense. I mean, just from the regulation, the operational standpoint of things. I mean, it's a great perspective, which is why I'm glad it came up before we started here today. From your point of view as, you know, a commercial drone operator is something that you do in your own spare time.

You know how these things go. I don't have drones. I, you know, I bought one for my son one year for Christmas and we crashed into a neighbor's tree. So like, I don't really good with this stuff. So I was glad to get your perspective on it. And here, that's how it works. Like the regulations, the limitations are built in. Like even people, even people in like you can look it up on on YouTube, on a whatever video forum.

But like if you look it up, people like that will be flying them in the Nevada desert. All of a sudden their drones will just hit this invisible wall because a lot of area in the government, the desert of Nevada is owned by the United States government. Right. And they'll just hit these spots. And their drone will turn around and fly back to them. Skinwalker Ranch. I believe it happened there as well.

So there's these restricted air spaces all over in this country. And if you're commercially operating a drone, it will literally just stop and come back to you. It's an important point to make because for everybody who makes the drone argument, and look, they do look like drones. I mean, you watch some of the videos, you see how the lights blink, how they move a little bit. There was one weird moment where the F-15 climbed up towards, we'll just say drone, because that's how it's being reported. I'm not trying to argue with anybody and what they are.

So I'm just going to say drone because that's what's in the reports. Unmanned. Unmanned, right, UAVs. Yeah, yeah. Maybe UAV is a better term. As this F-15 climbs up to the UAV, it kind of speeds off. So that is weird. I mean, it's kind of going faster than an F-15 or maybe F-15 is just letting it get away.

So I think it's an important point to make. We can at least by through process of elimination take out, you know, someone just flying a drone over an R-EF base. It's just out of the question. It's absolutely not going to work. Right. It's just not going to work. Right. So unless it's a Chinese drone.

Right. You know, regulations aside, like you said, it's just not going to work. work. So unless we're just sort of like mastermind who's, you know, hacked into the system, which I just don't, I mean, we start getting to Mick West territory here, right? Yeah, right. Where the prosaic explanation is so crazy that honestly, just a UFO is, is Occam's razor. Yeah, right. It's some of his, you know, I like Mick. I'm friends with Mick, but I tell them all the time, like, some of your explanations, they're more outlandish than just a UFO being there, man.

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Right. Right. Now, that one I find to be, that one I find incredibly intriguing. Yeah. Because it's Moscow. Right. And it, of course, Russia is in the war with Ukraine. You know, the ballistic missile was used for the first time.

Things are, you know, we've heard before that, I mean, in war zones, UAPs tend to get spotted. So is it out of the question? I don't think so. Yeah. And there is one of the other questions being asked by a lot of people, including myself, is how are these things continuing to fly over with impunity? I mean, it's still happening as we speak, Tyler. It's still, so I mean, just for time reference standpoint, it's Sunday, okay? It's December 1st.

Now, you're going to be hearing this after December 1st because, of course, this is pre-recorded. So this might be, you know, a couple days after. So we don't know what's going to be, if you're hearing this, like, say on. After the conclusion. You know, we don't know what's going to be what happened between the first and the fifth. But the fact of the matter is, as we speak here today on December 1st, these things are still happening. And they're still being seen almost every night over these R-A-F bases. So it's still flying whatever these things are and whoever they're coming from,

they're still flying with impunity. They're not being shot down. And there's not a lot being said about it either from either the MOD or from the U.S. side of things. Right. And that, I think when something like this happens, remember last year, God, it might have been two years now. I don't know. But when we had the four things that got shot down in a row, they shot them down. There's press conferences, you know, it became newsworthy. This, the lack of, of, of, of, any, one saying anything, any official word kind of speaks more volumes, especially the fact that they can't shoot or have they tried to shoot them down and failed. Right.

If these things are non-human, why are they watching us in our conflicts? Why do they have interest in our nuclear weapons? You know, why do they have interest in these things? in these, you gotta say, these circumstances, right? What is the connection? Are they trying to prevent something that's about to happen?

Or have they already prevented something that might have happened? And we, you know, with the Salas incident or the, there's so many that we can talk about. So I often find myself wondering about the connection. Absolutely. Absolutely. It is the question to ask in my opinion. And I think you're right, it is going to be a common theme as we go on.

One last thing on this before we move on to Arizona and then into D.C. What happened in D.C. I just wanted to read this one thing real quick. And this came from someone who says they have sources and intelligence. I can't say the name. They asked me not to mention their name and everything. but I thought it was an interesting theory or an interesting idea, however you want to put it. They mentioned that they were told by someone they know in intelligence who works in the airspace situation over the UK. That protocols prohibit the shooting down or jamming of UFOs over military bases and inhabited areas. And now keep in mind, that is an inhabited area because you have different. different people streaming from that from the different bases who live near those bases. And they say in the current case in the UK, especially because apparently, again, take this

with whatever grain of salt you want, but they're being told there was a nuclear signature coming from the orbs that are being detected flying over the bases, which indicates either radio nuclei battery or some other form of nuclear source. That's the first time I've heard that. I thought it was interesting. I never considered that before. So if that is the case, we keep asking the question, why aren't these things being shot down?

That would be a good reason not to shoot them down. Because you're not going to shoot at a nuke. Right. Right. You know what I mean? You're not going to shoot down something that could literally change the... Wow. Yeah.

Now listen. That's the first time I put that out there, by the way. just got that email about an hour before we came on. Or I got it a couple days ago. I just got to it about an hour before we came on. I'm like, I have to put this out there just to see, you know, what do we make of this, you know? Well, I make very much of that because now if it, if it, if it has a radioactive signature, immediately it will fall under the classification system of the Atomic Energy Act.

So therefore, that could be why we're not hearing anything about it. It's because it's deemed more secret than almost because it falls into a set, an even stricter set of classifications. And we know this. You know, this is something that we've been talking about in the UFO community for a while now. David Grush talked about it. that if something gives off and a lot of the crashed UFOs apparently give off these radioactive signatures. Therefore, they fall into the atomic energy secrecy act.

And that's why they're ushered away into private corporations. That's a great point. So, man, that blows my mind. So, wow. Yeah. Radio, radio nuclear ID. battery. I never consider that before or what type of energy this thing would be using that would give off a nuclear signature or energy that would prevent them from shooting it down for obvious

reasons. And also, and what you just said too, I hadn't considered falling under certain classifications with the Department of Energy, you know, the atomic agreements. It actually makes really solid sense when you start to put together. No one is no. I promise you. I can 100% I promise you, that no, government would literally step onto a podium and say, hey, by the way, there's these, there's these nukes flying overhead, basically. And, yeah, we can't shoot them down because, you know, fall out, literally. So. Right, right, right. I'm not saying what you, you know, I trust your, your sources, trust you.

that lines up pretty well though it does but it's something to consider um kind of just dropped the bombshell there and i hadn't put that that's the first time i put that out there so it's pretty wild and that brings us to that that brings us you know to to to pass that point of whether these are commercial drones exactly that that does not um that's not commercial No, no, no, no. Chinese or otherwise. Yes. So very interesting.

I would love to keep following up on that. So keep me in the know. Absolutely. What do you think about that? It makes sense. I mean, when we consider everything, you know, the questions, what's keeping the secrecy, things like that. That would be a big reason why. So, I mean, it does make sense.

We just got to keep up on it for sure and figure out why these things are continuing to fly over. Maybe we get some answers to our questions. But that's going to be one that I keep in my box of consideration as we go through this and continue to ask the questions on it. Yeah, more evidence mounts. Yeah, because it lines up. Right. Interesting, very interesting stuff. It sure is.

I swear to God, man. We live in a simulation. Whoever the writers are, by the way, we got the best writers. Not nuts. My God, every day is a different mystery. Well, it's funny you say that because that's exactly how I felt. It's a good segue, actually, because that's how I felt on Saturday morning. Right, it was Saturday morning.

I opened up the Twitterverse there on my phone. And all of a sudden I started seeing this video out of Bullhead, Arizona, which if you're not familiar with the topography, the geography of that. It's far west Arizona. It's literally on the border of Nevada. The Colorado River runs through it. So it's right there on the border. Take that into consideration as well, right?

Exactly. Right. Right on the Nevada border? That's correct. And I thought it's the first hand popped into my head as well. And if you haven't seen the video, it's all over social media. Do you have me to share it? Yeah, sure.

Go for it. All right. So I shared the audio too. the audio should come through. But out of all the drone stuff, I even told you this off air, I don't know why. I think it's some,

what might have to do with it is obviously I've been going through a lot with the Bob Salas, Steve Bassett. I've been getting like my phone rings probably a hundred times a day all of a sudden. A bunch of daily mail picked it up. Yahoo picked it up. Interesting engineering picked it up.

This interview with Mace. I've had a lot going on. I'm not trying to, like, brag or anything. But then I saw this video, and I was like, whoa, that looks crazy. That peaked my interest. So I'll play it if you'd like. Yeah, please do. So here it is from Ash.

Light and then there's a big, big bright light. They're absorbing around it. I know, Ella. Where? Drew, I'm telling you, that's... There was a kind of lights right now lit up. It's just fucking hovering there. The white thing on a dog?

No way, bro. No. I'm not scared, but that's crazy, though. It's just there, bro. What is it, Daddy? It's getting fired. He doesn't know. Right.

I don't see it, though. You guys don't see what I see on my camera because it's so zoom. Bro, you still on the phone? Oh, shit, they came back. Look it, bro. They're coming back. The lights are coming back. There's three.

There's three aliens. In front of me, bro, right in front of us. Three aliens. Look, look. Oh, the other lights turning on. Oh, there's the other lights. What the fuck, bro. Oh, it's okay.

It's gone. No, it's still there. It's still there. It's hiding in the clouds. I'm zooming in the clouds. It is in the clouds. That's what my brother said in the clouds. Yes, I'm zooming in, babe.

I can see the saucers in my zoom. I know I can see it. You can see his aid, huh? I can barely see it. That's so crazy, do it. Bro. Oh, no, look to your left. Look to your left.

There's another one to the left. Over here in the, in the, in the trees. What the fuck, bro? What the fuck, bro. Over here, bro. Oh, my God, bro. I just wanted to pause it on this because this is where I got. where I was like, oh, my God.

So as you see when she shifts over to it, you can kind of see an outline of like a classic disc. Yes. And this was on over to the side of the original. So now they've pivoted to their, it seems like they're right. They've turned to the right. And there's another set of lights that you can kind of see the outline here as well, for anyone watching.

The three lights make and then there's like this top light and it kind of makes this saucer shape. So this is very interesting. Yeah, you can play the end here. Baby, don't move. I'm outside the truck. Don't move. And there's another one?

There's a ton. Oh, my God. You see them, bro. You see them? My heart's pounding. My heart's pounding. Don't move, please. So the whole video is about two and a half minutes long.

And we played the whole thing there for you because obviously it's worth it to get the full context. It's startling. And that's what really got to me about it, Tyler, was when I saw this on Saturday morning, because this happened Friday night, Arizona time. I believe the family was just going to see a movie. And on their way, they see these, you know, different lights in the sky. And obviously catches their eye. They stopped to, you know, start recording and start filming it.

And it just went like wildfires. So the user Ash Rose 824 put it up on TikTok. And that's where I got noticed at first. And then she put it up on her Twitter as well. And what caught my eye, because you and I, we all see these videos, right? There's different videos that come out. People put up different videos. And it's like, okay, I'm not really sure I'm looking at.

Okay, this could be that. This could be that. And in your own head, when you watch it, you think to yourself, I'm not sure this is really worth my time. when I watch this one like you, I was like, whoa, okay, this is interesting because there's this one really bright light in the middle surrounded by three or four smaller lights. One is horizontal. One is like kind of vertical in a way. It's very strange.

One's kind of diagonal. And then when they pan over, what really got me, what made me feel like I was in a simulation like we were saying earlier was when they pan over and you see over the tree line this straight set of lines. lights almost like you would see in a movie. And you can make out a saucer shape when you actually pause there and see in kind of the darkness, you can almost see a saucer shape made out with that other one that they pan over to behind the tree line. So this is a multi-craft, whatever you want to call it, sighting. And that's what really caught my eye with this because it just, it felt different.

You know what I mean? And you can, and you can hear it in their voices that they are genuinely, genuinely, like, what is this? Yeah. And then the kids in the back, this is a side note, but if you hear the kids in the back now, I know they're yelling aliens, right? But what is, what stands out that our kids are growing up in a world where they, they don't, hesitate. They don't, they see lights in the sky and they're like, yeah, it's probably aliens. It's not, and I know this is like kind of like a subterfew, like, you know what I mean? It's like a stupid side note kind of, but it's actually nice and kind of reassuring to hear the kids in the back being so like kind of, they're more calm than their parents.

Yes, no, I'm glad you said that because I, that resonated with me as well. You know, I, I, I have two little kids, and I was thinking about when I was watching that video, this is probably how they would react. Like that little kid in the background. Yeah, you hear him say, he's like, I'm not scared. That's crazy, though. Yeah, I thought that was so poignant because, like you said, you know, you have the parents who understandably so are like, oh my gosh, what am I seeing here?

Because it's all happening. You know, you hear Ashley there who's taking the video say, you know, my heart is like pounding out of my chest right now right i mean the adrenaline's rushing through your body because you're thinking yourself what am i seeing like what is happening and i think now there's been different explanations that have come out since then some people say that it is actually speaking of mac west you brought him up earlier what is he said hold on let me guess let me guess please do refraction no actually no it wasn't refraction this time it was um It was lights on a mountain coming from cars.

So what I want to find out is, because he showed on a map, he's like, well, you know, there's some higher ground over here. And I think people are just driving on the mountain. And some other people said that too. They're like, you know, there's just people on ATVs on this mountain. I don't really buy that. Those don't look like car lights to me. They're pretty steady. If you're going to see car lights, there's usually going to be some movement there.

Why is one brighter than the other? I personally don't buy it. I think to me, Tyler, this is a real deal siding because of the angles at which these things were seen. Yes. You have the left. You have the right. You have all these lights surrounding each other. I'm going to go with you on this.

Yeah. I'm just not buying cars on a mountain. I'm sorry. I'm going genuine, at least genuine unknown. It's not a plane. It's not a helicopter. It's not something that these people usually see flying over their head, right? So this is why.

And then that's where I call it a genuine unknown. Now, yeah, it could be reverse engineer technology out of Lockheed. But that just means that it's reverse engineered. And it leads us back to our original, you know, okay, reverse engineered from what? Exactly. Right? Non-human craft. Exactly right.

still brings us to the same answer, just in a longer form. Right. It's like a transitive property when you're doing math. You're going to get the same answer. Yes. Go through more steps. Exactly. So whatever it is, it's special.

It looked. It was. Yeah, it felt different. And again, just because of the angles and how everything looked, that one is, that one really catches my eyes. So we're going to continue to kind of dig into that one to see what comes. to that and it's wild. I'd love to see what you come up with and and, you know, where this will go. So definitely, definitely something to pay attention to. Absolutely. And just it goes hand in hand

with what we talked about in the UK. We said, you know, now we have this in Arizona, sightings in Moscow. We didn't even talk about sightings over D.C. last week. There's just, there's just so much happening. And actually, hence someone writes me, they're like, are you scared? And my answer is,

I'll answer them right now. Yes, I'm scared that I'm not going to be able to keep up with all of this. That's what I'm afraid of. Because there's so much happening. There's so much being seen. I've never,

I don't know if you have, maybe I'm forgetting something, but I've never seen so much activity so quickly. In one condensed span of time, if we're just talking about like the past, call it two weeks. yeah yeah honestly and you know

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It's going to happen. It was predicted by this computer that there's going to be an UFO invasion. There's going to be dogfights in the sky with UFOs and fighter pilots on December 3, 2024. And it was all over the place on social media. So on December 2nd, Tyler and I kind of joked said, well, you know, do you remember saying that about the aliens, invading by December 5th. So kind of funny coincidence there. Of course, you know, invasion day.

Didn't really pan out. I think how some people were hoping it would have. There was no invasion on December 3rd. But that doesn't mean that there have not been unexplainable occurrences happening like we talked about in that first part and all the things that have happened since then. So I'm going to continue now on my own here today as of December 4th to kind of have run through some of the other things to elaborate on some of the things I've said there at the end of the episode and to update you on the things that have happened just in the past few days.

Starting with, you heard me mention Moscow. I don't have a lot of details on that. What I did see was a video that came out a few days ago. I think it might have been Friday or Saturday that showed these orb lights flying over Moscow. Again, not a lot of details on that. It was just something that I thought was interesting. It could have been an old video. It could be news.

Maybe it was something old that somebody was trying to pass off as new. But that's what I was referring to there as far as these orb lights that were seen over Moscow. And then when it came to Washington, D.C., I think you heard me maybe mentioned lights over the capital. And we talk about it a little bit in part two. But just to kind of elaborate on that, there was sighting. when it came to these, again, or looking lights flying over the U.S. Capitol, very similar to what we saw back in the 50s. Maybe not to that extent, those famous pictures with the lights over the Capitol, but it was seen just a few days after the hearing, actually, that took place, the UAP

hearing. So that was something that absolutely caught my eye, and it was actually two separate occurrences where we saw those lights. And again, we did elaborate on that more in part of too, so I'll kind of leave it for that, but I just wanted to let you know what was going on there when I was talking about D.C. So those were some of the things I wanted to elaborate on that you heard me say toward the end of the episode. But I do want to jump back a little bit before we hit these other spots that have come out and really developed over the past few days, including the Dallas, Fort Worth area, and New Jersey especially. So I'm going to get to those in just a minute if you haven't heard about some of the things happening there. But I want to just jump back real quick to some of the reports out of the UK, because Literally right now, I was just reading a report talking about more videos, more lights with inconsistent flashing scene over Lakenheath, R-Eaf Base in the UK. So that is happening right now as I speak to you. That video just popped up on my feed about 20 minutes ago right now as I'm speaking to you. So even today, even as I talk, there's still more reports or still more videos coming out about

these lights, whatever you want to call them, flying over these bases in England. And still, nothing continues to happen. Now, one of the things I wanted to touch on from that was a report that came out from the BBC. They had an article about this about four or five days ago, and they interviewed a lot of locals in the area around these Air Force bases. Now, they're describing glowing orange orbs with bright, really bright lights. not really something normally you would see associated with a drone, but again, make up your own mind. That's something that people are reporting on the ground.

And pilots, and this is also a report from the BBC, and I found this very intriguing. Pilots are using encrypted data links instead of radio to communicate, which is not really a normal practice. And we're talking again in the UK area over these bases. And now that might be a security measure. Well, that might be. It absolutely is a security measure when you're using encrypted data.

to communicate instead of radio. Now, the reason being, I don't know, right? What is the reason? Why do they find it necessary to use those encrypted data links rather than going with their normal radios to communicate? Is it just because of the heightened security of the situation? Do they know more about the security issues than they're letting on? And they feel like out of precautions, they need to use these encrypted data links.

Maybe it could be a little bit of both. But that's not a normal practice. something has to lead to that decision. U.S. Air Force Special Investigators are involved with this, by the way, including British Special Forces involved with the investigation. So they are taking this very, very seriously. The U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations, by the way, they've been seen in the Suffolk area, and they've spoken to local people about what they've seen.

So a lot of people are getting those reports out of the Suffolk area, where the U.S. Air Force Office of special investigations are actively on the ground looking for answers. One thing I'm not sure what to make out here is people are reporting strange electrical anomalies and a weird feeling with the heightened military presence. Now that weird feeling could just be, you know, nervousness. People, the adrenaline is rushing. This is a situation that is out of the ordinary. So that's just my opinion.

That's my read on what they might mean by weird feeling. but they could be talking about something else. I do find the strange electrical anomalies to be kind of odd, though, to say the least. One question that was not answered to the investigators anyway, as the BBC was reporting on this, is why they won't simply fly their own drones up to the other drones and see what they are. They didn't really answer that question. So the situation, like I said, that's from a few days ago from the BBC. I believe actually that report came out on November 30th.

So that was something that's, you know, is reported five days ago or so. And even right now, like I said, as I speak to you, these lights, these drones, whatever you want to call them, are still being seen flying over at least Lake and Heath. I know the other bases as well where these are being seen, too. Another report that came out just a few days ago, and I'm not sure what to make out of this, was a woman. And forgive me, I'm not really familiar with the area, but they say Beck Row, a woman. Beck Rose says she saw a drone shot down at REF Mildenhall. She says she lives close to a Seufeldic air base, which has been at the center of the mysterious drone activity, and she claims she saw one of the drones shot out of the sky.

The Post says that R.E.F. Mildenhall is one of three U.S. air bases in the region, alongside R.F. Laken Heath in Suffolk and R.E.F. Feltwell in Norfolk, all three bases we've mentioned before. and a spokesperson for the United States Air Force in Europe said earlier this week the drones were not believed to be hostile. We've heard that report, right? Now, meanwhile, on Saturday, the Ministry of Defense said that it takes threats seriously,

which was kind of an ominous statement to make, but the witness in Beck Row, the woman says, I live a stone's throw from the base, so I hear and see everything. Her name is Miss Mason, as they call her in the report. She goes on to say, I saw something that looked like it had been shot out of the sky. What I saw came down and then fizzled out. To me, it looked like a drone had been shot down.

She added, you really just don't know, do you? People can speculate, but I know what I saw. And then she finishes by saying, I am not the only one that has seen this. And they are calling this, by the way, officially a criminal investigation into these drone, so to speak, incursions. So again, make of that one what you will. We haven't seen any pictures, obviously,

of any drones that have been taken down. but absolutely is something very, very intriguing to consider there. So obviously the situation out of that area continues to be developing literally every hour of the day and do my best to keep up on it until we get some definitive answers of what is happening there because it just continues to happen. It's incredible. I've really never seen anything like this. It's incredible.

But something else really to kind of just add to the speculation behind the drones flying over bases before we move on to what is going on in New Jersey and what happened in Dallas over the weekend as well. Gosh, like I said, there's just so much. But they are saying now that over on the state side, because remember we've talked about the drone incursions over Langley, over the Langley Air Force Base, the FBI had been investigating that.

And is now being reported. Fox News reported on this over the weekend, actually. According to them, they said that the FBI investigator who were reporting the drone incursions over Langley in Virginia were actually followed home by what they called drones and they actually hovered over the homes of the FBI agents. So whoever we're controlling those things, is it related to what we're seen over in the UK?

Is it the same actors as far as China, Russia, non-human? We don't know. But if it is related, then what we see, saw in Langley, where these drones are following FBI agents home, and now we see this happening in the UK over the past couple of weeks with no real answers, something obviously is happening, and we're just not getting a lot of answers or clarity on it. And it's just kind of frustrating, but that's why I keep looking into it. I'm going to try to keep you update as much as I can as these developments continue to happen, because this is really an incredible situation when you

think about everything that's been taking place. Speaking of which, It gets better because now I'm going to move over to a report out of New Jersey or really reports. There's been a lot of reports happening in the UK that we just talked about. But similarly and really within the same time frame, we've been seen more and more reports of, again, using the word drones, because that's what's being used in the news reports, flying over areas in New Jersey, specifically in Morris County and also in Somerset County. These two spots are really seem to be the main areas where these drones, again, are being seen and videoed. A lot of videos have been put up on social media just as of last night, really, where people are putting up these videos of these drones flying over their houses. And there's been a lot of reports on this.

A lot of local news reports have been done in New Jersey and national news. This first one here was done by... An NBC outlet, National News NBC. You'll hear the witness here talk about being unsettled throughout all this. We're all completely unnerved. I didn't sleep last night when I would get up and look out my window at 2 a.m. 4 a.m., they were still hovering. I got up at 5.30 this morning, and they were still there.

As the sun was starting to rise, they went back in the same direction they came from. And I expect they'll be back as soon as the sun goes down tonight. So it's interesting to hear her talk about when the sun goes down. Remember that because as we go on here, listen to this second witness. And what she had to say, she says she's been seeing these things since November 18th. It's normally between, anywhere between like 730 and 10, 1030, they're out here. Never during the day. Nobody ever sees them during the day.

We're in like in the fly pattern going to like Morristown Airport and Newark. And we used to see a lot of planes coming. You don't see them anymore. All right. So a few things to unwrap there real quick. Again, never during the day matching what the first witness is talking about, where she says she almost expects to see them every night now. That one woman you heard there, when she was talking to the local news,

she's talked about, again, seeing them since November 18th, and she doesn't understand what's happening. I mean, the really the strangest thing that she can't get any answers on is why she's not seeing the normal air traffic anymore. Like you heard her say, she's close to the airport. she's in that airport traffic pattern where they're used to seeing the commercial jets fly over or at least fly by the house and they're not really seeing that traffic anymore. The reporter went on to mention in that report, by the way,

that there were reports of flights over the military or nearby military base. Now, I wanted to mention this because I did a little research here. They are mentioning these flights happening over the Piccattani Arsenal. Now, I mentioned that specifically because the Picatinny Arsenal, I didn't know this until I dug a little bit deeper. It's an American military research and manufacturing facility. Okay. Now, the reason why that's important is because it's the Joint Center, they call it Joint Center of Excellence for Guns and Ammunition, providing products and services to all branches of the U.S. military.

And I want to highlight the other word there again, research. American military research and manufacturing facility. And we're talking about these lights, these drones, flying over the Picatinny Arsenal, this area in New Jersey, which is more in the, what they call, Jefferson and Rockaway Township in Morris County. So a lot of this activity is taking place,

a lot of these sightings for the past two weeks, just like in the UK, same time frame, In the past two weeks, I've been taking place in this area of the Morris County area of New Jersey. And really interesting when you consider the Picotany Arsenal aspect of things, too. That's not really being mentioned a lot. But the fact that these lights have been seen flying over nearby or over the military base is really, really intriguing to me. Because it matches up with everything else we've spoken about, whether it be Langley, whether it be the three to five bases in the UK. And now we're talking about the Picotany Arsenal in that area.

area of Morris County. So does this point to, you know, again, adversarial actions because you can have the common thread of the military bases, or does it point to what we've seen before throughout the decades of UAPs, UFOs, flying over military bases? One way or another, these sightings, these incursions all have some type of military connection to them. Make of that what you will, but I can't help but to notice that commonality, really, in all these cases. Now, county and local law enforcement agencies are saying that they are aware of the recurring reports of drone activity around Morris and Somerset counties,

and they acknowledge the public's concern about these repeated sightings. Isn't that nice of them? In a statement, they go on to say that they are working in close cooperation with the FBI in Newark, New Jersey, as well as the State Police and New Jersey Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness Partners. And they want to reassure the public that they will continue to monitor and investigate the drone activity. They're also asking people to stay away from any downed drones. If you do come across any drone that might fall to the ground. They're asking people to stay away from it, not to touch it, and to report any drone activity to their authorities.

But I want to read this last line here because it says there continues to be no known threat to public safety. Now, that's all fine and dandy, and it matches what the U.S. Air Force Special Operations are saying about the incursions in the U.K. But then, I want to just tie this back together here with something I said earlier from the Ministry of Defense in the UK where they said they take all threats seriously. So which one is it? Are there threats that need to be taken seriously like the Ministry of Defense was talking about? Or is there no known threat to public safety? or is there just a threat to the private sector or military sector? There's a lot of questions here.

The fact is these things are happening. They're being seen all over the world, whether it's the United States or England. They're also being reported in Guadalupe now. They're being reported in Moscow, like I said earlier. There's even reports out of Colombia recently of UFOs actually flying during the day. Different cities throughout the country. Milwaukee is reporting. sightings. Philadelphia has reported sightings.

Are areas right here where I am in South Florida are reporting sightings over the ocean, by the way. And just to go back to something that we spoke about during the interview with Tyler and I, is there really something to that report that I was told about by one of my sources about

these drones having some type of nuclear core nucleide batteries, which is one of the reasons why they're not engaging with them. And if that's the case, Where is that technology coming from? And this message just came across me, literally as I'm talking to you. This was actually just tweeted out from Christopher Sharp, who does a great job from the Liberation Times.

He just put out a statement from Lake and Heath Parish Council. Received from the base today, it says, good afternoon. Courtesy notice from Lake and Heath. They want people to be aware that Lake and Heath is conducting an air base air defense exercise. there will be increased base activity and use of the giant voice system on R.A.F. Lakenheath for a limited time this evening. Our units, host nation authorities, and mission partners are working closely together to continue to sharpen our base response and force protection measures. As always, thank you for your partnership. Stuff is just wild.

I mean, when you talk about a very coincidental time to have a major base operation exercise, man oh man well outside of all that because of course i'm going to continue to keep an eye on all this as we go along um and hopefully by the way i just just a little bit of information here i hope to speak with the one and only anthony williams i know if you listen to the show um a lot of people a lot of you love hearing from anthony because he just has such unique insight on cases like this being that he's part of military intelligence and uh we're lining something up to discuss all of this stuff and see what the heck is happening. What can he make out of it from his end in military intelligence?

So I'm really looking forward to getting Anthony back on the show and hopefully giving you some answers, at least from his perspective, out of military intelligence. So I'll keep you updated on when he's going to make an appearance here. But to finish off today, outside of all this, I did mention Dallas. And this was actually something that I had tweeted out right there at UA Podcast, 850. If you're not following along, it's at UA Podcast 850.

I put a lot of this stuff out. I'm trying to keep updated as much as I can when these things happen. And one of the things I tweeted out a few days ago was this communication from two separate pilots as they were approaching the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport, which is a massive airport. It's a huge airport. I've been to it. I got lost inside the terminal one time because it's just, it's huge and it's hard to navigate or maybe even just not very good with directions. One way or another, it's a major airport. So this was actual communication here from two different flights, American Airlines Flight 2,800 and American Airlines Flight 2100, just a couple days ago. This video was put out on December 2nd from a YouTube channel called VAS Aviation. They do a great

job. And so if you want to follow along, it's VAS aviation. And they put out like, you know, real-time communications between pilots and air traffic control. And it just so happened that this was one of the things that they put out was this communication between these two different pilots talking about strange lights that they were seeing in the sky. Here is pilot number one as he was reporting what he was seeing to air traffic control. Again, just a couple of days ago in Dallas. weird, but we keep asking about the MOAs, we keep passing, because we're falling these two kind of lights that are up above us that are kind of jogging back and forth, left and right with that's like half hour.

Really? Yeah, I don't see anything on radar. No, river's just not active. Sorry, I interrupted them there. There is two voices you heard, of course, the pilot from American Airlines Flight 2800 talking about these lights. They've been monitoring for the past half an hour jogging back and forth, and then you heard the response from air traffic control.

heard the surprise in his voice where he's like, really, we're not seeing anything on radar. Really, really interesting there that they didn't see what the pilots were seeing on radar, but the pilots are making visual contact, if you will, these visual reports of these lights, and they don't know what to make out of it. And then, right after that, the second pilot comes in to verify what the first pilot was seen. And in fact, the second pilot says they've been seeing them for even longer. them for about an hour or two in the northwest sky. Sorry, what, do you say they're close in to you or they're up high?

Oh, I put them about a... All right, so a couple of things that are real quick. The end, where he talks about the lights go super bright and then go really dim. So matching reports there, super bright, really dim. We've seen that all over the world recently with these sightings and how these lights will go bright, dim, back and forth, reappear, disappear. here. And then he talks about being 100 miles out to space. Now, when the air traffic controller, if you couldn't make that out, the air traffic controller was saying, you know, are these really high? How far away are these things from you? And he says the pilot answers 100 miles out to space.

Now, I don't want to make too much out of that because I'm not up to date on pilot lingo. And I know I have a lot of pilots who listen to this show. So if you wouldn't mind writing me a message to help clarify what that means, because I don't want to give the wrong impression. If that means, if that means like 100 miles out in space, meaning 100 miles away from him, is his estimation? Or is he actually literally saying 100 miles out in space? Now, I don't think it's the second one. I'm pretty sure that he's just saying like 100 miles away, like out in open space. But if you wouldn't mind helping to clarify that, that would be great.

So as always, I always say, you know, you can message on social media at UA Podcast 850. My messages are open. and the email that I always gave out at the end of the show, S-Deneru-A-P at gmail.com, and I'll give that out again at the end. But that caught my ear. I'm like, what do you mean 100 miles out in space? So, again, this kind of goes back to one of my earliest and original points, though,

that I believe still holds true to this day, which is pilots know what they are looking at, and they know the consequences of reporting something that if it's erroneous. So in their estimation, this was worth calling, the tower over. And not just one pilot. It would be something if it was just, you know, one pilot, maybe he's misinterpreting something he's seen. You know, that's unlikely, but maybe that's the case. It's not just one, though. You heard two different pilots there. Two separate pilots made the conscious decision based off of what they were seen to call the traffic, to call the air traffic control,

to call the tower and report it and try to figure out, hey, is there anything to this? And of course, there's no definitive answer. And they're one of many pilots, by the way. Like I mentioned just a second ago, I have a lot of pilots to listen to this show because I get messages from them. And they talk about all the things that they see. And then I see other comments throughout social media channels from pilots who discuss what they're seeing in the air.

This isn't new. But hearing it on communication with air traffic control, that part doesn't happen extremely often. So when I heard this a couple of days, ago, I thought it was absolutely important enough to take this communication that is now documented between two separate pilots over the Dallas-Fort Worth area with air traffic control because they couldn't explain what they were seen. And that really is kind of the common theme today, isn't it? Can't explain what we're seeing, but people are seeing it, whether it's in the UK, the U.S. or other places throughout the world. New Jersey, it's Arizona. Man, again, again,

keep our eyes on this for sure because I have a feeling that there's just going to be more and more happening as the days go on. So I'll keep you updated as much as I can as we go on here on UAP. But until next time on part two of this episode, you'll hear back with Tyler Roberts from the Total Disclosure podcast as we go into the next portion of the interview talking about the interview that took place between Bob Salas and Nancy Mace and what that was like being a part of that how did it go what were the reactions like and what's going to happen moving forward that part is very very interesting so stay tuned for that in part two of this uh really i guess far reaching episode i suppose you can say and who knows what else will happen by the time i'm able to put out

part two which i hope to have out by uh friday on uh december 6th so keep an eye out for part two for sure boy there's a lot happening and i really you could probably hear the excitement in my voice because as perplexing as this is, that just makes it more exciting for me to come on and talk to you about it because the stuff is incredible. And I've never seen activity like this in such a short amount of time within the past couple of weeks. So like I said, I'm just going to continue to do my best to bring it all to you as it happens. So until that time comes, continue to follow along wherever you get your podcast on Spotify, on Amazon, on Apple. I really appreciate all of you who listen, it's really incredible.

And I hope that even more of you come along for the ride as things continue to develop. And of course, keep in touch on social media. You can follow along in real time as I put these things out on social media, specifically on Twitter at UA Podcast 850. And you can also follow along on TikTok. I put up some videos there as well. Same handle at UA Podcast 850. And YouTube, if you want to see some of the previous videos I put up,

I don't get to update a lot on YouTube, although I would like to change that in the few. future. But if you want to see some of the previous videos I've had up on there, it's at UAE podcast. No 850 on that one, just at UAE podcast. And the email I gave out earlier, I'll give it out again. S-Deneruap at gmail.com. It's S-D-I-E-N-E-R-U-A-P at Gmail.com. I have about 20 messages sitting in my inbox, and I say that because I want to apologize to all 20 of you who are like, hey, why hasn't this guy written me back yet? I know the messages are there. I apologize. I haven't got back to you yet, but I absolutely will. So just a disclaim. Just a

disclaimer, if you do send me a message and I don't get back to you right away, I apologize ahead of time, but I promise to get back to you. At some point, hopefully very soon, I'll make a point to do that. I always try to as quickly as I possibly can. So until next time, Stephen Diener here once again on UAP, the Unidentified Alien podcast saying thank you again so, so very much for following along, for taking to the show, and for continuing to come back. I appreciate you more than you'll ever know. So I'll talk to you again very soon right here on UAP. Until then, Be well and thanks.