UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP EP 96 "ET's & Nukes" Discussed in Congress and Latest Sighting Updates

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

How did things go when Nancy Mace met with Bob Salas behind closed doors? Stephen Diener gets the details on this meeting from the man who filmed it, Tyler Roberts. Will we see an "ET and nukes" hearing in the future? Plus, all of the latest updates on the sightings out of New Jersey and elsewhere...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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the Total Disclosure podcast. And I know we covered a lot of ground, like I said in part one, which is why I wanted to split this up into two parts, because in that first, part if you missed it it was really more about you know covering what was happening around the world really in the UK a little bit with New Jersey and some of these sightings what you know drones and whatnot as as we've been referring to them as and then I was able to give you some updates and even after that there have been more updates since I released that part one just a couple of days ago so the first thing we're going to do is get into this part two, which is a completely different feel, a completely different discussion from what

we spoke about in part one. In this edition, in this part of the conversation, we really more focus on the meeting that took place with Robert Salas and Nancy Mace, which Tyler was able to document as part of his show. So that was one of the main reasons in bringing him on to the show was to really talk to him about, you know, behind the scenes in that exclusive interview experience that he had to document this discussion between Nancy Mace, Robert Salas, and Stephen Bassett as well, who was also in on that meeting, in that closed-door meeting. So we focus on that portion here while he and I talk. And some of the things that come up are, of course, behind the scenes with that meeting,

what happened, what was said, what's going to happen in the future? What can we expect with more future meetings and the congressional outlook? and something you're going to hear about is ETs and Nukes, which is something that Nancy Mace actually said. She wants her specific words were, and not to give too much away here, but her words during that meeting were I want to do a hearing on ETs and Nukes. She was very, very intrigued by the discussion she had with Robert Salas. So you're going to hear more about that during this interview and other names that could be involved with Robert Salas at a future hearing to discuss E.D. T's and nukes. And isn't it interesting since then everything that's taken place since the past month or so, almost the past month, since the UAP hearings? Of course, referring to all these incursions that we've been seen around the world and the sightings around the world. So maybe those hearings will happen sooner than later. We shall see. But that's what you expect to hear right now in this Part 2 episode of UAP with my discussion with Tyler. Really good stuff, really informative, where he's able to kind of give us that background. on how that went in that closed door meeting.

And then stick around for after that interview ends because I'm going to give you the latest updates on what has been happening over the past couple of days because there is a lot to catch up on. And I'm also going to let you know what to look forward to here on UAP because next week is going to be a very, very big week here on the show that I think a couple of things that you're going to enjoy and look forward to happening next week here on UAP.

But for now, here is part two with my discussion with Tyler Roberts on the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Enjoy. As we move into D.C., which will, of course, take us to our main course of the hearing and your closed door meeting with Bob Salas and Nancy Mace and Stephen Bassett. After the hearing, this was after this was post hearing there on Capitol Hill, there were lights seen over Capitol Hill. And it almost is identical. I want to say, and I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, I should have written it down,

but I believe it was about a I want to say it was a couple of days before Thanksgiving somewhere in that area. So like maybe somewhere in the area of the 25th-ish but these lights were seen over D.C. on two different occasions

one night after the other. One night, though, they were seen over the Capitol and it was very reminiscent of the old picture from the 1950s when the lights were seen over the Capitol. Now, you're always going to have people saying, well, hello, Reagan International is right there. It's just the airplane pattern. They don't really come in like that. We were just there.

It doesn't really work that way. Not once did I see what I'm seeing right now over D.C. Right. And we were there from 4 a.m. till I was there from 4 a.m. until 8 p.m. Right. And I mean, we were standing out there all day. You were there towards the night. I don't remember seeing an airplane pattern like that flying into Reagan. Nope. I know about you. But that's, um, so I flew into Reagan and I didn't see that pattern like that. That's right. That is interesting. Yeah. So that picture is out there as well. And again, this, this happens post disclosure hearing when all the witnesses were up there. I don't know if you remember this. But we, everyone,

there was asking Chris Bledsoe to summon orbs. I do remember that. Yes. It just took them a little while to get there. It took a little bit longer than they expected. Yeah, it just took a little longer than they usually do. But yeah, so that's very interesting. It's wild, man.

And at all, I think, I don't believe this is random. That's kind of my take on this before we move into the hearing. I don't think this is random. I don't think this is coincidence. I don't think these are intertwined, just my opinion here. I believe one thing connects to the other, whether it's Arizona, D.C., Moscow, the U.K., over the Air Force bases. I believe all these things are being seen in these specific areas right now, bunched together the way that they are for a specific reason. Listen, man, a lot of people have always said, you know, if they are here, why don't they drop onto the,

the lawn of the White House. And I would take that and say they have. Without landing on the lawn of the Capitol where you're going to get, you know, guns drawn on you, they've done several flyovers, as you just mentioned in the 50s. You know, if you're a believer in the Hall of an Air Force base landing, then they have. And this brings me to the subject of Bob Jacobs and Robert Salas and Stephen Bassett, right? These guys have been raising awareness to the fact that, in Robert Hastings, we can't forget, obviously, wrote the great book UFOs and nukes. Now, I say all this because what is a more.

grave concern than craft having the ability to not only shut down nuclear missiles, but to disable the midair. And then also the case from Russia that George Knapp uncovered, where they turned them on instead of off. That's right. Are they trying to send us a message? Are they trying to, or is it like strong arm? Like, listen, you know, you can do what, you think you can do this, but let me show you what I can do.

And I think there's a clear, there's a huge difference whether we go forward in the notion, because there's something that Elizonda talks about where there's a difference between indifference and malevolency. And we need to make sure that we don't slap a tag threat. onto these things because we don't know if they're a threat. We don't know if they're just indifferent. You know, we don't know. So my fear is that we start shooting at them openly, like you talk about, why aren't they shooting the drones down, yada, yada. It's like, well, that kind of scares me, honestly.

Because what if we, you know, what if a conflict starts by our, ignorance. Right. And that's what scares me most is, is having, having a miscommunication. Sure. Sure. No, I'm with you on that. You know, you want to, I hate to shoot first and ask questions later, you know. Yes. And it seems that the only way you get money from Congress is, I mean, you don't get money from Congress by showing them flowers and, and, and, and, uh, dandelions and stuff, right? You get it by fear and, you know, war. That's how you get funding.

So I'm just afraid that it's going to end up being there are things, there's not human intelligence and we need to protect ourselves from them. That is the furthest thing, I think, from the truth. because if they were a threat, I truly believe that we would not be able to have this conversation today. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

They've showed a tremendous amount of restraint in hindsight. If we find out that, you know, the Roswell crash, all these things really happened. They've shown a tremendous amount of restraint. It's the humans that are the aggressors typically. Right. So that is, that was a big focus of mine. It always has been. So that's what led to that day in D.C.

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And how did how did the meeting go? What took place behind closed doors as you guys got into that meeting? I got this meeting with Nancy Mace before the hearing was even actually solidified. And that meeting was originally just for me. It was for me to ask questions about the hearings and put it in the video that I'm making about the trip. Now, a couple days before the hearing, I got what once it had. been confirmed, I got a call from Bob Salas. And it was like, it was like destiny or fate. I don't know if you want to call it that, but it was his wife and himself, and they had told me that they were going

or that Bob was going. And he was going to be speaking at the Mufon rally that was going to happen after. And I said, oh, that's very interesting because I have a meeting with Nancy Mace and maybe Bob could tag along. And all of a sudden, it just, it became more. It became something different. Because as I thought about it more, I was like, no question that I could ask Nancy Mace is as important. benefit the disclosure effort. So I just said, I'm going to take a knee and I'm going to let Bob Salas brief her. But the more and more the day went, the more and more my ego, I was like, something kind of switched. And I decided that for my ego, I needed to take a knee.

I needed to. And I needed to let Bob tell his story to a sitting member of Congress, not just a sitting member of Congress, but the sitting member of Congress that chaired the hearing that we saw nine hours beforehand, right? That would do more for the disclosure effort than me asking questions ever could. So, and I think that's what more people need to do, because they need to stop wanting their name attached to the biggest. story and just be a part of it, right? Because I can't tell you the feelings that were running through my body as me and Bob got dropped off in front of the building, right? And we're walking towards her office and we're being escorted. And then as we enter, she's just, she's sitting there waiting, right? It was this, it was profound. And she's, and she's,

She's a spitfire, by the way. Oh, yeah. So she immediately jumps up and she's like, you know, super excited. She's super engaging. She asked how we're going to frame it, you know, how do we want to do this? So that, you know, we ultimately, we sit in her office is like two rooms. So we sit in that office. I set up the cameras and I basically just let Bob go.

Bassett was able to give like a really long, like, pre-briefing that wasn't even on camera. Plus, we gave affidavits, names, dates, locations. One of the things people hate hearing in these, that's ironic, they don't like hearing these words in these congressional meetings is, I'll have to speak to you about that in a private skiff. Right. In our meeting, those words were never said. Names were given. Companies were given. Dates were given.

Where the information was given. So I think that our closed-door meeting did more for Nancy that day than the hearings did. That's my opinion. What made you think that coming out of it? What do you think she heard that made her feel that way in your opinion? It's the implication. the implication. If you are sitting, if you have any stake in national security and you hear a credible, highly credible, decorated captain from the Air Force, tell you that he had 10 nuclear missiles go offline and that a UFO was seen over the base as it happened. If that doesn't turn your fucking stomach, you shouldn't be a, there. You just, you simply shouldn't be in government. You should not be in that job. So at the end of the

meeting, you hear her, there's this moment where she says, Bob, I find you really credible. And I was looking in his eyes when, when, when that was said. And I watched as 50 years of silence, of frustration, of, of, being laughed at by people. All of it wash away. Because a sitting member of Congress told him that she found him highly credible. And it was, that moment changed me. I don't care if I'm the story anymore. I found my place.

And what's coming is so much bigger. All right. So I got to ask you about that. But before I do, I just, a couple of things that kind of caught my attention where you say being a part of the story, right, and putting your own ego aside, which is tough to do for a lot of people, you know, especially with in this field. You know, there's a lot of big personalities. And to be able to do that, actually, ironically enough, created more attention toward what you were doing. Because. Everybody saw that clip that you put out of Bob Salas with Nancy Mace. They're talking about all these things that you mentioned. And that ended up actually your decision to put him front and center, which I commend you on, ended up creating more attention than you could have ever even asked for. And I could have done my own. Right.

And that's how you know you've done the right thing. And then that final moment where, and that makes me feel good too, because I've had Bob on the show once or twice, and I've followed his story. His story, actually, like a lot of people, is one of the things that originally got me into this subject. A lot of people, you too, right? A lot of people ask me, you know,

well, what got you into this to begin with? And I always said, well, there's a couple of things. And that's one of the things I mentioned is, you know, we did get our nukes shut off back in the 60s at Malmastrum Air Force Base. And this guy, Robert Salas, was there and he talks about it and doesn't get the attention it deserves. So when I hear that he had that moment of validation, I mean, his life could be a movie. And maybe it will be one day.

And I feel like maybe that moment while you were sitting there, wink, wink, while you were sitting there in the room, maybe that's one of the final scenes in the movie. You know what I mean? Because I can almost see it in my head as almost like a post-credit scene of his life story where you find. finally get that moment of validation. You're following this character throughout the story. You just want him to be heard. You want him to be seen and believed because he had this experience that he's been trying to tell everybody for decades. And then he finally gets that moment. And I got to commend you on that, Tyler. That's awesome. That's great. It's phenomenal, really, that you were able to get him into that room. And finally, after years and decades of trying to get that moment. It's, it's, it gives me butterflies, still. Still, still gives me butterflies, man. It's awesome. So one of the things that was said at the end of that meeting is,

and what people are talking about is the, Nancy says it as we're kind of wrapping up, she says, I would love to do a hearing about ETs and nukes. So that is something. that we are pushing for hard. Now, in the meeting, Bob, now what I'm about to say is, it's going to be hard to keep up with. But just bear with me. So Bob in the meeting with Nancy Mace talks about not just himself, but he talks about a few other cases,

including Echo Flight, which was another case of where UFOs shut down nuclear weapons. He also talks about Bob Jacobs, who filmed a nuclear warhead, a dummy warhead, and essentially, so the best description I can say is the one he does, where my finger represents the warhead, it was shot up, the UFO comes into screen, shoots a beam at it, flies over it, shoots another beam, shoots another beam, goes under it, shoots another beam, and then the thing just tumbles out of the air. And Bob Jacobs was very highly decorated. I think he was an Air Force as well, and he was a videographer.

And he's been telling that story for many, many years, as well as Dave Chindelli. Dave Chindelli is tied to the bottom. Salas case. Instead of being on the underground, he was on the top, top side to some degree. So those three people, I promise you will be hearing from soon. I hope, I hope it's in a congressional setting. Outstanding. Yes. Imagine a hearing where Bob Salas, Bob Jacobs, Dave Shend.

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she's hearing these things about the incident at Malmstrom, about everything else like you were talking about. I think that was Big Sir, by the way, the Big Sur missile. Big Sir, yes, yes. With Jacobs, where he took that video. What do you feel like her vibe was? What did you get from her as she was hearing these things? Was she shocked? Was she surprised?

Was she annoyed that this stuff was happening? Or did you get, she's heard it before? and it's confirming some suspicions that she's had. A little bit about all of the above. Now, right in the beginning, right in the beginning of the interview, she says, well, Bob tells her that he gave two hours of testimony to Arrow. And she asks, wait, was that in the report that just came out? And he says, no.

And she goes, really? So, and then she thinks about it for a moment. She goes, so can that whole report, do you think be discounted? And everyone in the room says yes. So throughout this whole interview, she was excited. Now, mind you, she had been going since 10 a.m., nonstop. meeting was at 8 o'clock p.m. But she was so energized and she was receptive and she was, honestly, she was nice and committed, devoted.

She wants the truth. And she asked us some things that we are now doing. She asked us to do some things, which we are now doing. Yes. to further E.T. and Nukes thing. Try to put one and one together, guys. I can't say it, but

in the future there'll be more, a lot more, and it's going to be bigger because some of the names I've said to you today, you know, they'll be alongside, shoulder to shoulder. That's good stuff, man.

So actually that kind of brings me to my final question and you touched on it there, But when you got out, what was the big takeaway for you as far as the future is concerned on where this goes? So what are you expecting to happen? And what do you hope happens? And those might be two different things. What I expect to happen is a hearing, way more here. A lot more hearings.

This is the thing that we're going to do differently than what's happened before. is we're going to start with the closed door meetings and then go to the public, right? So that way we find out what can and can't be said. So I am working with Steve Bassett and others like Bob Salas to form a group of highly credible people that are military who have had encounters on bases that are military. nuclear equipped or have something to do with nuclear testing, nuclear technology. And that, I think, is going to be the next big, big, big topic. ETs and nukes. ETs and nukes.

And see, the one thing is I don't like ETs and nukes. I'd just rather UAPs and nukes. Yeah, I'm with you. ETs kind of slaps a label on it. But I get what Nancy was saying. She wants to do ETs and nukes. Yeah. You know, UFOs and nukes.

That is the next big step. And the fact that they're willing to even entertain the conversation in a public setting is a huge thing. Yes. And again, you know, Jared Moskowitz has been talking about creating a select committee for UAP. So if that can get done, then even if these people don't want to be interviewed, they can subpoena them. Right. So they have to. Yeah, that's huge. So we need to, we need to work with representatives. I know it sounds redundant, but we need to work with the government in order. So we need to meet them halfway. And I've, I've said that for a long time. People are like, well, how can you

just trust the government that's lied to us for 80 years? It's not the same government. You're right. Right. It's not. It's some, most of these people are just in the dark as we are. And they're the ones who are supposed to be the ones that have the need to know and don't. So they're just as frustrated. And right. It's a great point. And I think another thing we didn't know until after the hearings, well, it's not.

I think it's we didn't know until after the hearings were two key positions that have gotten filled since then. John Ratcliffe, the former head of national intelligence, which Tulsi Gabbard now heads. He's now the head of the CIA. He's talked about these things before in different interviews. He's talked about this subject. And now you have just recently, Cash Patel being named as the head of the FBI. FBI.

He's been on numerous shows, Sean Ryan being one of them actually, talking about how he wants everything out in the open. You name it. He wants it all out in the open. So there's a lot of momentum with people like that. A good final word to use is excited. There's a lot to be excited about with everything that's been going on lately. intriguing whether you want to believe the different sightings or not we can debunk them or not I think it's an exciting time for this conversation whether it's the sightings or the hearings

the interviews the meetings that are taking place behind closed doors it is it's all it's very exciting to see what the future holds and what could happen next 20 years ago one of these events One of these stories would have been a bomb for the UFO community. True. And now we're getting – and that's what – it's becoming an issue because the community is becoming very, like, instant gratification. Yeah. It's like, guys, and that's what I tell people. Nancy also said in the meeting, guys, this – this is not – government doesn't work quite.

Quick. Yeah. So, you know, grab onto the guardrails and we're going to be here for a while. And you know what? We'll take you all the steps that we can. We're going to go through everything and take you down the road as far as it takes us. We're always going to do our best. Where can everybody find your stuff, what's happening, your show, everything?

Yeah. So I am on Twitter at Disclosure Pod. You can also just search Total Disclosure on any podcast platform. It typically comes up as the first one. But if not, it's the red UFO logo that I don't have in front of me. I just realized I'm not on my own show. But yeah, look for Total Disclosure, UFO coverups and conspiracies. We're also on YouTube doing more video.

But again, 99% of my audience is audio only as well. Well, lots to come. I do have a movie, a documentary that I made. It's in post-production. It's coming a little bit slow, especially because of what I'm doing now, which is all very time-sensitive. So I've kind of put that on the back burner. So I'm working.

I'm in post-production on one documentary, starting production on another, and also doing all this stuff with Congress and getting witnesses out there. So I think we'll be talking more. And I can't wait to see what the future holds because it feels like my path is being laid out brick by brick. I'm just kind of like following it. Outstanding. Good stuff, Tyler. We will talk again soon for sure.

Thank you so much. Thank you again to Tyler. Really enjoyed talking to him. Really cool perspective. And exciting to hear what could be down the road, you know, when it comes to who. a future UAP hearing involving Robert Salas and some of the other names that we mentioned and focusing on the ETs and Nukes aspect of things. Really, really cool stuff and intriguing to say the least when you start to think about

what this can mean for the future. So absolutely going to keep up with him to see how his efforts are going along with Robert Salas and Stephen Bassett to see what's next. What could be down the road here for Congress? since that is changing day by day, especially with all these reports going on out of New Jersey. And, I mean, especially in New Jersey when it comes to, you know, American affairs in Congress. But I know that Americans are paying attention, at least those in the military field, in the intelligence field, are paying attention to what's happening in the UK as well.

But specifically in New Jersey, I just want to update on a few things that have been happening over the past couple of days before we do go here. Oh, and real quick, just a little house cleaning, I guess you can say, just a quick note on some of the names I mentioned, like Tulsi Gabbard or Cash Patel or John Ratcliffe when it came to different department heads, CIA, FBI, National Intelligence. I should mention, I should at least clarify that when I say, you know, they're going to be in charge of these things. To be fair, they haven't been confirmed yet. They still have to go through a confirmation process. So that's still up in the air. Well, you know, you never know what's going to happen when it comes to. politics, who's confirmed, who's not.

So those names I mentioned, those three specifically when it comes to the intelligence side of things, FBI, CIA, National Intelligence, it remains to be seen. But those are the three nominated names. So I just wanted to correct myself and clarify those are the three names that have been nominated for those positions yet to be confirmed. So we'll see what happens down the road if all three or at least if a couple are confirmed and where that might lead. So just wanted to, a little house cleaning on on that statement real quick. All right. So outside of that, what else is going on? What's been happening the past couple nights?

Well, more sightings, more videos coming out, and more questions coming out from New Jersey. Now, the fact of the matter is, yes, let me just throw this out there. Yes, some of these videos, they absolutely look like airplanes. And some of these videos, they absolutely could be airplanes considering the Newark Airport is closed by in some cases where people are seeing these so-called drones. In other cases, maybe not. And I think that's kind of where a lot of people lie right now. Even Nick Pope was talking on News Nation about this. He said we could absolutely be seen. Basically what I said. Some could be, you know, terrestrial aircraft. And there are other things that could be UAP in nature. Now, there is, the fact of the matter is, what ends up happening is

you end up causing mass hysteria. And I think in some cases what we're seeing right now in New Jersey. might be a case of mass hysteria because a lot of people are hearing about, a lot of people have questions. It's being taken seriously by federal investigators within the FBI and also the military. They're shutting down some airspace. When it comes to those things, you know, these drones, we'll call them, are flying over, you know, artillery bases. They're flying over water management areas and residential neighborhoods.

I talked about in my last episode where they followed FBI agents home. who were recently investigating the reports out of Langley with the glowing orbs. I know some people say those were drones, but remember, the report was glowing orbs. So it's the same type of stuff that we're seen out of Langley. It's the same type of stuff that we're seeing out of the UK right now happening in New Jersey. Again, some could be easily explained, some still very much unexplained. And that's where New Jersey lies right now. And the fact is it is getting a lot of attention.

The New Jersey case is being reported a lot within the, you know, mainstream media here in the United States. In fact, Fox News just did a report on this. And the reason why they're reporting on it is because today, as we speak, what happened today was the House Oversight Committee, including Nancy Mace, and a lot of the other names that we saw at the UAP hearing almost a month ago, you know, Jared Moskowitz, Tim Burchett, Representative Ogles. A lot of these different names who were at the hearing were also in a closed door meeting that just took place today with Arrow.

And Arrow coming out as well saying that, yes, they've investigated over 700 different reports in this year of 2024. And there's around 20 in their book that remain unexplained, truly unidentified anomalous phenomenon, truly UAP in the Arrow report. And so they actually just came out with that today. According to the Hill, the Hill came out with an article on this. Says, true anomalies. Pentagon finally admits it's baffled by UFOs. So that is the headline there on this report out of the Hill on The Hill.com. So again, true anomalies, Pentagon finally admits it's baffled by UFOs.

That's part of the new Arrow report that is coming out. And it's all kind of happening at the same time when it comes to their discontalienable. Discussions behind closed doors today. Secret meeting, if you will. We can call it that, I guess, but officially it's a classified behind closed doors meeting with Arrow and the oversight committee within Congress. So what happened from that? Well, we don't really know because it was classified behind closed doors. But what we can say is that some of the members from Congress, namely Representative Ogles and Tim Burchett, did talk to reporters coming out.

of this hearing, this closed-door meeting. I guess a better thing to say. And this was their reaction to some of the recent reports going on out of New Jersey. They didn't really talk about what they heard in the closed-door meeting, but they were asked about fresh out of that meeting what they thought about the New Jersey situation. Here's what they had to say. Congressman Ogles from Tennessee said this could be the work of the U.S. military testing new technology.

But Congressman Burchett seemed to have another take. He thinks if the Chinese aren't directly responsible, perhaps they're recruiting hobbyists to fly these things to test the U.S. response, see how the U.S. military and the FBI response, which apparently is what we're seeing right now. Mike, still a big mystery, but we're going to stay on it. Again, credit to Fox News for that report here today. But respectively to the congressman, I have to disagree.

Now, always up to you, right? That's what we always say here. on UAP. Absolutely. If you agree, fantastic. Maybe that one of those things are the answer.

And they could be. But I'm just speaking from the position of the questions I have asked before to different insiders like in Anthony Williams. Okay, for example. I've asked these questions before to him.

And just to use some of his answers as an example, when it comes to, you know, Chinese tech, what we always come back to there is that they don't have what we have. And if we were able to respond to it, then we would. There's really no reason why we wouldn't be responding to some type of Chinese tech incursion for the past couple of weeks in different areas, by the way, first in Langley, right? If we're going to

connect these two, first in Langley, Virginia, and now happening over New Jersey in some sensitive areas, including Bedminster, by the way, is a residence of Trump, the incoming president. So that's kind of a big deal as well. So if we're going to look at what Tim Burchett's theory was, which is China testing out new technology to see how we would respond to it, well, then they would be pretty happy because we haven't been responding to it very well at all. So there's that theory. The other theory from Representative Ogles, if we can look at that one real quick, where he says maybe this is just top secret military testing. Absolutely. I told you. I totally. I told do agree with that could be an option.

But, and again, I say this because I've asked this question before, and the answers that I've gotten always line up and match up, which is if there is military testing going on, which happens all the time, so it's not out of the question, but according to the answers I've gotten in this situation, it doesn't really line up because military testing doesn't take place over residential areas flying very low overheads where you can easily get photographed and filmed and be put on social media.

So in that case, in that aspect of things, the military testing side doesn't exactly make sense or line up in this scenario. Again, that's just my estimation. That's my read on it, again, based off of the conversations I've had in the past. if it was military testing, which yes, absolutely does happen all the time. If it was military testing, it would be closer to what you saw with the SR-71 Blackbird back in the 60s or 70s, where it was very high in the sky and people were reporting UFOs, and they couldn't explain it because they saw this thing flying way high up in the sky.

The SR-7-1 Blackbird wasn't flying over residence homes in New Jersey very slowly, okay? So you see what I'm saying here? If it was some type of military testing, it wouldn't be very smart to test your top-secret equipment. where it could be easily photographed and filmed to be put on social media. So that one is hard for me to agree with or line up with. Just want to put some perspective on that. Again, all due respect to the congressman and what they have to say there. But the fact is that they did have this closed-door meeting with Arrow today.

We don't have a lot of info of what was said there, of course. But I think the biggest takeaway from it should be is that this is being spoken about. This is an active conversation with. the halls of Congress. So getting back or kind of looking back to what we just heard from Tyler Roberts when it comes to Robert Salas and Nancy Mace, these things, these discussions are taking place. They're not in vain. Every hearing does mean something. Whether or not we like the hearing or not, they lead to something else. It leads to a closed door meeting with Robert Salas and Nancy Mace. It leads to closed door meetings with Arrow and the Oversight Committee, which is going to

lead to more things down the road. So I think that's the bottom line here is that this isn't just a throwaway, this isn't lip service. They really are taking this seriously because they want the answers just like we do, quite frankly. It's being hidden from them. And it's frustrating for us. And, you know, like we were saying in the interview there, I can only imagine how

frustrating it would be for ranking members of Congress on an oversight committee. Like, it's literally their job to know about this and it's being kept from them. So happy to see that the conversation is continuing. even though it's behind closed doors at this moment. But when it comes to all the other sightings happening, the reports out of New Jersey, really just have to continue to watch this because the frequency of it is really astounding.

And it's, again, not just New Jersey. These sightings being shown all over the world. I mean, there are videos coming out from all over the world on this. Some of people even put up a picture last night of drones flying from the ocean in like formation, almost like a rainbow formation, kind of matching what we were talking about with the Capitol Lights just about a week or two ago over D.C.

So that's a formation that was flying over New Jersey last night. And it's so funny to use the term drones and sightings, you know, because it's not, we don't know exactly how to classify this. Some people say drones, other people say just UAP, you know, your classic UFOs, right? But when you see these craft that are being shown, in the videos, they are some type of winged craft in some videos. Others are just those glowing

orb lights. I talk about those drones, so to speak, coming from information over the ocean. Those look more like the glowing orbs in the picture that's kind of floating around online. So it's funny. The verbiage,

it kind of gets a little messy, gets a little sloppy. It muddies the waters a little bit on the verbiage. When we say drones or UAP, But it's kind of both, right? It just depends on which siting you're talking about. And the thing that really kind of gets to me is when you're talking about the drones siding part of it, so to speak, when you look at some of these reports coming out and some

of these statements from the law enforcement, they're talking about, and this is actually something that came from Chief Joseph Orlando, who is the Florham Park Police Department in the New Jersey area. I should say in the state of New Jersey. The statement that he put out says several drone sightings have been reported above critical infrastructure, such as water reservoirs, electric transmission lines, rail stations, police departments, and military installations. So a lot of the areas that, you know, we've talked about here on the show and that I've mentioned. And again, these are critical areas that these things are flying over.

So whoever it is, whatever it is, they're doing some. it seems some type of surveillance. Like these places are not coincidences. They are intentional in where they are flying. And some people have even mapped out the areas and the path that these things have been flying reported from 6 p.m. to 5 a.m. Coming from the water, coming from the Atlantic Ocean, in that area, and then flying over the eastern seaboard of New Jersey, inland a little bit.

And then finally settling over Morris County, where a lot of these people are reporting, the sightings. Now, we mentioned Florham Park Police. We've also mentioned Somerset County. So these are some of the main areas where these, again, drones, lights, UAPs, whatever you want to say, it's a little bit of both, are being seen. But the final statement here, or I should say the final sentence in this statement from Chief Joseph Orlando from the Florham Park Police Department, really caught my eye. He says, then their presence, their presence appears, nefarious, in nature. That's really quite a statement to make. Their presence appears nefarious in nature is how he finished that official statement that went out to local media. So nefarious how and nefarious

from who? Well, again, flying over these critical infrastructures and even Bedminster, like I mentioned earlier, and the Picatinny Arsenal in Wharton, New Jersey, the military base there that I mentioned a couple days ago. These are all areas where these craft have been, seen flying over the past couple of weeks. And the frequency, again, the frequency, I can't stress that enough of which this has been happening is really what is catching everybody's eyes. So whatever you make out of these lights, these unmanned vehicles, and even some pictures that have come out from it, some of them look like airplanes, some of them look like craft that we've never seen before, but is some type of wing craft. And some of them are just the glowing

Orbs. This stuff is happening. But the question remains, what exactly are we experiencing and from whom? And really, why aren't we getting the answers that we're looking for? Now, on top of that, there's also this report that came out. It's an odd one, and I'll possibly retweet it later on. It shows a picture of a couple of white lights through a tree line. And the reason why that picture is there is because someone out of West

West Virginia. Out of New Jersey, I'm getting confused. There's so many different sighting in so many different states. Someone out of New Jersey reported on Facebook. They put up this picture on their own Facebook and said, So it appears a large drone has landed and been stationary on the ground with lights still on, on a neighbor's property bordering our neighborhood now for over two hours tonight slash into this morning. The person posting this whose name is Bonnie says police were here and we're here and

witnessed it. Now, the conversation went on here because you would think this would be a pretty big deal of one of these things that landed in somebody's backyard. We would know more about this, but apparently there wasn't much found out because no one really approached it. They said it sat there for over two hours with not much activity until eventually it was gone. The fact that someone's reporting that one of these things landed voluntarily or involuntarily, that's the first time I've heard of that. I wish, now I'm not telling anybody to go approach these things because the FBI and the state police have told people not to do that, so I'm not going to go against that. I don't want to get in trouble or get you in trouble, but I just wish there was some way that we could find

out, since it apparently, according to this, eyewitness, landed in somebody's backyard that we could know a little bit more about this. So I'll look into that more. And if I find out more, then I'll absolutely talk about it next week on the new episode. And I'll also put it out on Twitter. if you're not following, please do because there's a lot going on and I'm trying to keep up to date there. That's like up to minute stuff. You know, an episode of UAP is fantastic.

I come on, I give you everything that's been going on, but that's maybe once or twice a week. If you're on Twitter, you can follow along at UA Podcast 850 and get the latest updates of what's happening because I do try to keep up even more there at UA Podcast 850 on Twitter. But I guess the biggest takeaway as far as an update is concerned is that it's still has.

happening, whether it's UK, New Jersey, other parts of the world, and we're still asking questions, which leads me to what's on tap for next week. It's going to be a big week because we're going to start off with Anthony Williams. And a lot of you have asked me, you know, what does he think about this? If you've never heard him before, military intelligence analyst, this is what he does. He analyzes these things, analyzes the reports, has an incredible amount of information, an extremely unique perspective and I was lucky enough to have him join me in studio for the first time ever. So we actually spoke yesterday. It was an hour and a half conversation. It was magnificent. If I say so myself, I thought it was just fantastic insight on what's going on and I really, really cannot wait for you

to hear it. So I'm going to do my absolute best to put that out on Monday. So absolutely look forward to that. And then some other things in the works that I don't want to say too much about right now just in case they don't pan out. But if they do pan out, then it's very exciting. And I also look forward to you hearing what is in the works as well. But what I will say is that Anthony Williams did join me in studio. We spoke for an hour and a half. And you're going to hear what that interview was like because I think it sheds a lot of clarity and some startling revelations, I guess I could say, the answers that he was able to give. So super excited to bring that out to you. So look forward to that and follow along at UAE Podcast 850 on Twitter, on TikTok. Email if you like to do that.

S-Deneru-A-P at gmail.com to reach me directly. S-D-I-E-N-E-R-U-A-P at Gmail.com to get to me there through email. And of course, any direct messages on social media. So I always try to get back to you through social media as well. But that will do it for today for a very active week. I'm exhausted, quite frankly, but I'm not complaining because this has really been something over the past couple of weeks. And I'm going to do my best to continue to follow it all and bring you everything right here on the show and on social media. So who knows what's going to happen next time we get to talk to each other right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Until then, it's Stephen Deiner here saying thank you again so much for everything, for following along, and for continuing to stick with me here on the show.

I will continue to do my best to bring you everything up to date. and all the stories out there in the wild world of UAP. Until next time, thanks so much. Be well. Talk to you soon. Bye for now.