UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Greatest Hits: Is the Government Controlling the Weather?

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

During this "greatest hits" episode, Stephen Diener sits down with former government employee turned whistleblower, Eric Hecker, who says he worked on the secret US bases in Antarctica where they employ the means to weaponize the weather and other natural disasters. Do you think this is true? All that and so much more during this in depth interview.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's about continuing the story. Explore your options at kingsley manor.org, a nonprofit month-to-month senior community within the Front Porch family. Welcome in here. Stephen Dean are back with you on the Unidentified Alien podcast, UAP's Greatest Hits Edition, bringing to you today my interview from this past April with Eric Hecker, who you might remember from the Disclosure Conference back in Washington, D.C. in June of 2023. And there's a reason why I'm going to play him today, which I'll get to in just a second. But first I want to get to some of the things that are on my mind before we get into the episode here today. Number one, I really had a lot of great stuff playing for this week for UAP. And unfortunately, I'm kind of left. Not that, you know, I regret having to put out a greatestist episode because this was a fascinating interview

that if you've never heard before, I think you will really enjoy it. If you have heard it before, maybe you'd like to hear it again, especially in light of recent events. But again, I'll get to that in a second. But the reason why I'm doing this now today is to at least have something out to you from the UAP factory, so to speak, because I've just been so distracted. And I apologize for that. But I've been so distracted. My mind has been elsewhere with the preparation for Hurricane Milton this week as I do live down here in southeast Florida.

Thankfully, it was not on the west coast for the brunt of the storm, but down here in South, East Florida. We still had to prepare for a lot and ended up getting a lot of tornado damage all around us yesterday in all the various counties. Thankfully, on my own personal end, we were spared from the tornadoes even though they were pretty much all around my house. It was scary. We did have to go into our safe room at least once during the storm yesterday. And it was a pretty nerve-wracking day, but I can't complain because there's a lot of people who have a lot of damage. And like I said, I'm just thankful that I was personally spared from the worst. But it was very nerve-wracking and, quite frankly, scary time this entire week.

And then yesterday as Hurricane, and even this morning as Hurricane Milton was making landfall here in Florida. So because of that, I really haven't been able to pay attention as much as I'd really, really wanted to. I know there's a lot going on. You know, the news about supposed whistleblower within the Pentagon talking about Project Immaculate Constellation with, you know, the Pentagon secret UFO, UAP retrieval and reverse engineering program. So, I mean, that's all stuff that I want to talk about. The Las Vegas aliens case. I was supposed to have an update case closed with Scott Rotor this week.

And just a lot of things haven't been able to line up, unfortunately. As badly as I wanted to cover all those things today and this week, like I said, it's just been very challenging. So I at least wanted to get out something to you this week. And that's why I'm doing this today with a greatest hits episode where I spoke to Eric Hecker, like I said, he was at the Disclosure Conference back in June of 2023 in Washington, D.C. that I attended. And he was a star of the show, so to speak, because he spoke about the, well, weapons, really, that they have in Antarctica that

are being used there, things that can be used to weaponize natural disasters. And I'm not saying that I believe that's what's been happening with the recent hurricanes because I can tell you from personal experience living in South Florida my entire life. Hurricane season is pretty rough. Sometimes hurricane season you get nothing and they're duds and everything's fine. Other times like this year in 2024, they're just extremely destructive. I can remember personally 2004, 2005 were extremely destructive years for the state of Florida. Of course, 2005 also was Katrina for Louisiana.

You know, Hurricane Harvey in Texas, I believe was in 2017. somewhere in there. Forgive me if I'm getting that wrong, going out the top of my head. But I guess the point I'm trying to make is that these things have been happening for a long time well before I started UAP, well before I was even born. 1935 Labor Day hurricane in Key West is still to this day one of the most destructive hurricanes of all times. So just putting some perspective on it from my own personal experience as a Floridian that some people have reached out to me and said, do you believe these things have been engineered, cloud seeding, you know, weapons from harp and things like that.

I can't say for sure yes or no, but what I can say is they've been happening for a long time and I've experienced them during hurricane season. And, you know, we are at the peak of it right now, kind of coming down from the peak. It's August, September, into October is really the peak of hurricane season here in South Florida. So that's the perspective I can give on that question. But that's why I felt maybe it was a good time to put out this interview I did with Eric Hecker back in April, where that conversation does come up amongst me. many other things, by the way, in what was originally a two-part episode, but what I'm going to do

is presents you both parts in one in this, what ends up kind of being a pretty long greatest hits episode. So if you've never heard the entire interview before, please feel free, enjoy. It is pretty interesting. He has a very unique perspective as someone who was stationed in Antarctica and saw all these different things that he was whistleblowing about. And if you have heard it before and on a refresher, then by all means, here you go. But my interview here, With Eric Hecker from this past April, we cover a lot of grounds, including the questions about whether or not the government is controlling the weather and trying to weaponize it. So all is well here. Like I said, I'll just say that to finish off.

I cannot wait to come back next week with brand new things, brand new material, brand new episodes going on all around us that I can come back with you here on UAP, the unidentifiedified alien podcast. But until then, enjoy this greatest hit episode with myself, Steve. Deener and Eric Hecker right here on this greatest hits episode of UAP. Thanks. Yes, welcome in to another edition of UAP Weekly. I am Stephen Deiner back with you here on the Unidentified Alien podcast Weekly Edition. And this is one I've been looking forward to because it's been in the works for a few weeks actually. And that is to start this conversation with Eric Hecker.

And before we get into that, just some background on Eric in case you are not familiar with who he is or his work within the past year. Eric Hecker is someone who has been on my show, actually. I'm very thankful to say because he's not someone who does a ton of interviews. So I'm thankful that he makes time to come on here with me and speak about the things that he feels are very important to get out, such as what you're going to hear today when it comes to what's happening in Antarctica. Because that is where Eric kind of made his name really splash.

I mean a big splash, like a tidal wave onto the scene back in June of 2023. So almost a year ago now from today where he appeared at Dr. Stephen Greer's Disclosure Press Conference in Washington, D.C., which I was fortunate enough to be invited to and see his press conference live. And I didn't realize how much of a title wave it made in the disclosure community until I got home and saw that his five-for-six-six-minute speech was going viral, where he gave all these details about what he saw as a contractor, you know, this independent contractor during his time in Antarctica for Raytheon. And he went on to say about all the different directed

energy weapons that they were developing there, how it caused an earthquake in New Zealand back in 2010. So there is a lot that Eric came out with. But the main portion of what he spoke about, of what he has been speaking about for almost the past year now in the few interviews that he's done is the direct energy and mind control capabilities that the government has with secret programs that are going on, especially in his case and his specialty in the South Pole. So really fascinating stuff that he has spoken about before and that he has spoken about with me before on the show when he came on, I believe last August was his first appearance here.

And now he's been kind enough to make more time for me and for us to discuss these things and even more wider-ranging discussion. It was so wide-ranging that I had to break it up into two parts. And I really, I got to say this too, I really don't enjoy having to break things up into two parts. If I'm being honest, I would much rather present everything to you in one package. But I also am cognizant of the fact that there was so much spoken about here in what turned out to be almost an hour and a half

and kind of going through this, picking and choosing some things that I thought, know what much better off breaking this up into two parts so today what you're going to hear is a little bit of discussion about picking up where we left off the mind control type of aspect things of what the government's trying to do with their directed energy weapons you know maybe not so natural disasters as we speak about there's there's a lot there and I know that might sound heavy and I know that might sound like what are you talking about but just wait just wait to hear what Eric has to say about some of these things that he's trying to get the word out about, which is why, you know, there aren't many people like Eric Hecker who are talking about these

things who, you know, in his estimation has, you know, in his claims, has firsthand knowledge of happening and seeing happen right in front of him back in 2010 and 2011 in the South Pole. And we also, in part two, well, I'll get to that later. I'll let you hear part one first. So here's the first part of my conversation. with Eric Hecker as we again talk about a lot of things. Oh, and what might be happening with the disappearance of MH370. I bring that up as well in conjunction with some of these advanced weapons tech that he's talking about. We kind of talk about a little bit of what Ashton Forbes has

been presenting with the disappearance of MH370. So really interesting discussion. And here's part one of that conversation with myself and Eric Hecker right now. Enjoy. Welcome in. Surprise. Eric Hecker is back with me on UAP. Stephen Deiner here with you Unidentified Alien Podcast. And I'm really, really happy and appreciative to have Eric Hecker back on the show with me. Your second appearance here on UAP. So thanks for coming back, Eric.

It's good to see you again. Yeah, great chatting again. I'm happy to be back. I know we had a good chat last time. So I'm just, you know, hoping to keep going in this direction and get folks up to speed with what is, you know, legitimately already occurring on the planet around us. Yes, exactly. And the last time you and I spoke, well, let me rewind even a little bit further.

It was June of 2023 when I went to Washington, D.C. Everything has really stemmed from that time in June. And since I saw him speak there at that conference where you made a lot of waves, I don't know if you were aware of viral UN after that. He were up there for five minutes and it was like a quick punch to the UAP world. and we've got to speak once since then on the show and we covered a lot of bases then but it's been a while since we got to speak

so I want to start from where we left off and kind of ask you what the heck has been going on since the last time we spoke it's been a few months so I think you're probably right in noticing that I have have caused waves in the disclosure community and I mean it mostly has to do with I come firing with facts and reality and and direct firsthand experience and understanding of things you know from being around other

people with direct firsthand experience as well and and in these conversations and connecting of the dots there's a lot of folks that are out there that seem to be pumping some sort of propaganda that's manufactured in some alphabet agency farm and then, you know, put out to the community. But it all seems to be like well invested in distractions to keep, you know, folks like me that pop up that are like a rogue wave in the system that, you know, have some actual verifiable truth and firsthand experience. They don't know what to do with us. So there's a massive disclosure community that's built to confuse the population about what's going on in the UFO, UAP community.

I mean, we've seen that the more we research the topic, we see that for decades, these programs already existed to confuse the people researching legitimate science. So are we to believe that that activity has ceased? You know, or is it still prevalent? I feel like as someone who's trying to get their truth out to we the people of the planet, that I'm observing a lot of blowback and resistance versus understanding and assistance. Right.

So that speaks volumes to me in my perspective of dealing with the disclosure community. I mean, these are the facts of my experiences. is it seems to be a big racket. Yeah, it's really interesting you say that because there's a couple of names that I want to get to when it comes to the disclosure community. But before I get there, I want to take it back and kind of shine a spotlight on you real quick. Because just to remind people of your experience, right, your firsthand accounts. I talked about that, those five minutes where you took that, you know, a quick blow to the community back in June of 23, where you talked about your experience working at base in Antarctica and experiencing these, you know, neutrino experiments, the doms as you spoken about and how it kind of translates into, you know, direct energy weapons and things like that, causing an earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand.

So since then, what have you experienced? I think from my perspective, it's very easy to see these people as either, the enemy themselves or aligned with them. And by the enemy, I mean in regards to the truth. There's people on this planet that want we, the people, to be completely informed as to the reality of things around us. And there's other people that are against that. We can reduce the teams down to those least common denominators.

I'm for the team that is for people getting the truth. And it's obvious to me when people, align themselves against me doing that what side they're on. I get it might be a bit confusing for other people if they're not in my shoes, I've walked my path, that they might be a bit more challenged. But this is why I kind of come hard hitting on the topic of Antarctica because it should,

it should be really easy to the most casualist of observers on this topic. that there's a whole bunch of people speaking out as if they know what's going on there, but they've never been there. Right. It's very intriguing to me as someone who's actually spent a substantial amount of time there, which is extremely rare.

And then I was in Antarctica for 366 days straight. Wow. So there's a volume of experience that comes with, that that from my perspective when someone says that they were a tourist there for six days, I mean, that experience to me is very laughable. That's not much of an Antarctic experience and not a lot to hang your hat on. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little bit different than, you know, a full year and a day.

A full league year. Yeah, it's almost comical. I spent a year and a day in Antarctica. So number one, have you been back there since? When was the last time you were there? Oh, I left. I left in November of 2011 and couldn't be happier to have left at that time. So you left and you're happy about it and you haven't looked back. Would you take another offer to go back there and do the contractual work that you had with Raytheon, right? It's funny that you say that because it does come up regularly and the reality is I didn't want to go there the first time, but I had to. I wouldn't want to go there again, but I'd be lying if I said that like if if I had to, if some circumstance came up where somehow the roll of the dice was I had to go back there.

I guess I guess I would. it's something that I can do. What is that that makes you hesitate about going back? Now, obviously, it's Antarctica, so not the greatest conditions. But aside from that, is it just because you know from firsthand experience what was happening there and you just were not comfortable with the things that you saw? All the above. I mean, even just a repetition of the first year that I did,

I now have a much grander understanding. standing of what you're donating to that program, so to say. What was it that they were doing then, Raytheon, in 2011, versus what you think they're doing still now in 2024? I guess the difference would just be that they're looking to now scale things up. The time that I was there 2010 into 2011 was transitional year for both the Ice Cube neutrino detector and the elevated station, the new. facility basically. They were both going from construction to operations and maintenance for the first time ever. So now from that point until now would basically just be them figuring out design flaws, corrections, upgrades, how to make things better than the last 10 years it had been operating. And it appears that the ice cube neutrino array is slated to be increased.

in dimension 10 fold. It is already the world's largest phased array transmitter on the planet, and they're about to scale it up 10fold. So let me ask this for the layperson, and because it's very, it's very technical, right? So how do you explain a phased ray transmitter, or array transmitter to someone who's never heard of that before? What is the mission of a phased array transmitter that Raytheon is doing with. Think of it as a ray gun and the larger the array field in many dimensions. So like a harp antenna previously like the ones in Alaska were on the surface of the earth. So they had length and width to them.

But the ice cube neutrino detector is special in as far as that it goes down into the ice and now has the dimension of depth and giving it a third plane to function off of. So just imagine having a network of these doms, the balls in a mesh, so to say. And just by being able to control and functionally fire and transmit from each dom in a controlled phased array,

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So what are they trying to shoot at it? What's the idea behind that? If they're trying to use it as, I guess, for lack of a better term, maybe it's the term, if they're trying to use it as a weapon of some sort, where is that directed to? It's directed to the mind, which is the battlefield of the future, and they can now just access things more directly than they used to. You used to propagandize and brainwash a community through television,

through news articles, you know, the mass media has always been corrupted for the benefit of whatever political arm of the nation, whatever geographical boundaries. I mean, this is what we the people have witnessed is that we all like to act like, oh, our country would never do that. But every country seems to be doing it across the board and just putting out information that's just, you know, not necessarily the truth. But we the people still have a right to spread that stuff. around as fast and furiously as we can. It's just freedom of speech is no longer free. It's, you know, it's like marketing now.

How do you get your truth out there? I came to the disclosure community thinking that I would get a warm welcome and assistance and understanding and getting this information to the greater community, but instead I found that, you know, if people can't make a buck off of the information that I'm trying to get through them, then And they're completely not interested and they'll pretty much work against you because if you're not with them, you're against them. And they're there to make a buck and you won't give them your info to profit. So now they don't like you.

It's really something. You talk about, so that's the mission that you've seen, right? That's the mission that you want to get out to people that you know that's what Raytheon is up to in Antarctica with these, you know, phase-deratran. What do they say they're up to? You know, how does Raytheon paint this as this is our mission in, you know, Antarctica in the South Pole? I guess currently they would say they don't have a mission at the South Pole. Raytheon Polar Services, when they lost the contract, my understanding is that they don't exist anymore. So they would say, we have no presence there.

Now, now you'd have to talk to Lockheed Martin and PAE and other military industrial contractors that have their hands in that till. So this is a black book. operation essentially. Oh, absolutely. It's almost, it's almost a joke that the, the United States Antarctic program, the acronym is USAP, which is also for the unacknowledged special access programs. You can kind of slip that in there, I suppose. Yeah, you know, just, you know, oh, this is a, the USAP program needs a check cut from Congress because that's basically how it works is the the National Science Foundation gets the check from Congress and decides how much the USAP program, the United States Antarctic program, receives. So that's the money train.

And it's so funny you bring that up because I was going to ask, in your experience or from what you heard, how much does Congress know about this? Are they hip to this at all as far as what's going on? Or did they just turn a blind eye? Well, this is what happened when I went and spoke in the skiffs, the secret compartmental information facilities. I spoke with both the Senate Intelligence Committee's people and then also the folks at that new department arrow AARO. And the long and short of it was that they were appreciating everything that I was sharing

with them. the dialogue seemed to center around that there's just rogue factions all over the place at this stage of the game. Things have gotten so secreted and so compartmentalized that there's just rogue factions running around without oversight.

And it's very challenging to reel them all in when there's so many of them working against each other right now. And is that the case? Vying for existence. And that, right, that's the thing, because you talked about the money train. Is that really what it comes down to?

Because that's, I know a lot of people have suspected, when you have questions, follow the money, right? That's what I said before in these situations. And it seems like that's the answer when it comes to the secrecy, when it comes to the lack of the acceptance of a disclosure moment from Congress. I know you have people like Timberchette and Apollina Louis. Jonah, Jerry Moskowitz, people like that who have pushed for these things out in the public, but then you have your Mike Turner's of the world and people like that to push against it.

Is that because they are working with the Lockheeds and the Raytheons and these defense contractors? And they're just, their job is to play, you know, interference to make sure this stuff doesn't get out because then the money train runs dry. Yeah, I mean, this is what we would call gatekeepers in the disclosure community. These are people that are controlling the narrative that are, you know, know, giving these slow controlled leaks versus, you know, giving out the truth. And yeah, usually that's just so that there's, you know, profiteering involved. And these folks are really just puppets or parrots for whoever their handlers are. So it's not, I mean, this is,

it doesn't even remotely look like the truth. It's, it's a freaking operation across the board. If people don't, if they're not fighting for the whole truth, like right now, if they're, with this whole, you know, the people can't take the truth. Like that's, that's on behalf of the bad guys. That benefits the bad guys. Humanity, natural human beings, living a naturally good life. We are resilient against the test of time. Our existence is our pedigree that proves that.

We can take anything. So the real reason they want to keep people in the dark is they just fear retaliation. This is something where if truth about, these programs, whether it's, you know, advanced weaponry or, you know, what's happening in the South Pole, whether it's, you know, a culture of secrecy surrounding the UAP discussion from Roswell until now, there is a lot that's happened in between 1947 and 2024 that there's a lot of laws broken and a lot of things on the black books that would cause people to go to jail. So that, those two things to me, and maybe the religious aspect as well,

So maybe those three things, I'll get your thoughts on it. Is that kind of the three main things that prevent disclosure, money, religious aspects, and going to jail? I don't know. I don't know if those are the three main things. I find a lot of this stuff is typically more complex than can be simplified. And that seems to be one of the common issues with addressing these dilemmas. is that people are wishing that they were simpler than they are. So nobody really seems to be attacking from the appropriate angle

because if you don't really understand how severe the problem is, what are the odds that you're addressing it correctly? So a lot of this has to do with people being so in the dark and not realizing how far off the mark their understanding of reality around them is and how much more to their detriment the situation is. And it's almost like, you know, people are currently losing a battle. And nobody's really prepared to hear that or do anything about it. Our enemy is in a very strong position right now with what's available for technology on this planet and how it can be used against unwitting people. And people right now are

really enjoying being unwitting to the technology around them. Everyone knows all the terrible things that their technology is currently doing and interfacing with them and they're completely ignoring the simple cons side of the cons list. There's pros and cons to everything. Just because all that is going on, don't tell me that there's a negative. I mean, I'm just, I'm just getting my steps in. That's all that's going. on. It's a funny world we live in, Eric, which is why I'm happy that you can come back on, because this is, you know, it's a conversation that isn't really happening a lot to talk about things that are kind of heavy and a lot of things that people wouldn't focus on normally,

I think. Now, one of the things that I think is fascinating to me that I want to bring up to you is where do they get this technology, right? I'll just use Raytheon as an example because that's a subject that we were on as far as what they're doing in the South Pole and the technology that you've seen that you spoke about with the doms and the phase rate transmitter and things of that nature. Where does it come from? Is this developed out of secret, you know, programs or is are these things happening from reverse engineering alien tech? I mean, what do we what do we looking at here in your, you know, opinion? I think that would be a battle of semantics at that point. I mean, let's let's just say they had a yet another brand new weapon.

that we never imagined, let's say, comes out right now in the middle of this conversation. Oh, my God, this is the craziest, most destructive thing ever. I don't think I'd be as concerned with how they got their hands on it, as much as I would be concerned as who has the ability to use it. And I think that's, you know, that's kind of the bait and switch on what's going on with a lot of this stuff, is that we're coming across good info, but then we're having well-placed folks that are redirecting the conversations

into what I would say is a battle of semantics. You know, a lot of people would say there's no such thing as a bad question or a dumb question. Well, there are certainly avenues of inquiry that run away from the point of a topic and some of the more talented beds or podcasters or whatever you want to call them.

I mean, that's just what their job is to do, is to, you know, tactfully move the audience away from the important parts of the conversation. Well, actually, one of the things that is a pretty hot topic where we might be seeing some activity like that that you're speaking of is in a case of the Malaysian Airlines flight, MH370. And I'm wondering just to kind of switch gears on that.

But if we're talking about advanced technology, I noticed actually that you were on with Ashton Forbes not too long ago. And I've had Ashton on here on UAP a couple of times. Really fascinating guy, really fascinating explanations that he gives as to how and why MH370 would have disappeared. In your mind, is that possible from what we've seen in those videos that Ashton Forbes has put out from the technology? experiences that you've come across.

Could the U.S. or any country have secret reverse engineer technology like that that would use, you know, anti-gravity craft to essentially, in layman's terms, teleport an airplane? I'm new to Ashton's work in regards to that topic, but I am intrigued by what he's putting out there. Yeah. I mean, I'm vaguely familiar with some videos that he's put out. I have seen some stuff. I just don't want to, you know, come out like I'm some all-knowing guy in regards to his efforts.

I think he's doing great work. I would have to trust that the videos are accurate and legit and, you know, taking that into consideration, being hypothetical on what technologies we already know exactly. I think it's not a far leap of logic at all to consider the things that Ashton is putting on the table. I think, I mean, that's kind of the same angle that I'm coming from. And he and I are meeting in the middle. It's just simply folks like, you know, you really, you have to at least start considering what can be going on around us with the technologies that do exist,

that they're just not communicating to us. There has to be a massive amount of highly advanced technology that many factions on this planet have access to. It's the general population who's kept in the dark by design, by all the protocols that keep things super duper secret squirrel stuff. I mean, we all know that those systems are in play, but nobody wants to discuss what has to be happening in plain sight in regards to the technologies being used that are just simply kept secret from us.

Why would anybody think they're not being used? I just think that people don't want to believe they're being used. I think people want to believe that we can just come home and scroll through our phones and watch TV and have dinner with our family and not focus on gee, I wonder if an airplane, an airplane is going to be teleported today or if they're going to use a direct weapon in the South Pole

to control my mind. And I'm not sure that people are ready to, maybe not for people to make a leap into thinking that way, if that makes sense. I get where you're getting at, but you're right. Therein lies the problem. Yeah. Right? So now here we are at the

precipice of this cliff. this is the issue is that people are choosing to naively stay in the ignorance's bliss zone because it is human nature that once we become aware of a problem, we do feel an obligation to do something about it. So people will resist the truth, like cognitive dissonance, because they're resisting their obligation to understanding. That's really what's going on. Right, right.

is they know the effort of changing their mind. They know what they're going to have to do once they realize this is true. And people will be lazy in their decision making because this is just simply not living up to their own morals and responsibilities. But everybody knows the right thing to do. But we all know that we suffer from an inability to choose to do the right thing. Not a lack of understanding. We always know what right. right and wrong is.

Yeah. We just sometimes know we're choosing to do the wrong thing, but we're never confused. We always know what right and wrong is. And we just need to challenge people to be more responsible to doing the right thing as individuals with respect to realizing that that's going to help the group in the circumstance that we, this herd of human existence has become right now so tightly curate. arrailed that we're going to have to work together as individuals on a team to empower each other to break through the walls of the containment that we've been put in.

It's going to take great effort because we're losing that battle currently with the technology that exists that no one's paying attention to. If something came out just to kind of connect this to a question here, and some of the natural disasters that have happened, going back to the fires in Hawaii, some of the earthquakes that have happened around the world recently within the past month even you know you talk about well this the fire in hawaii was started by you know a laser weapon or whatever may have been or it was intentionally done and then you had these earthquakes happening and we think about what you spoke about what caused the earthquake in christchurch new zealand

about you know 14 15 years ago but if people saw definitive proof in front of their face that natural disasters even the ones that had just been about were happening intentionally because of technology that was being used. I guess definitive proof is a relative term and opinionated from one person to another. But since the ball is thrown in my court and the topic is here, how about just quite simply, where are the thousands of children that are simply missing from the Hawaiian fire event? Great question. If everything's on the up and up, and this was just a simple happenstance,

where are all the children at? So if the children are simply missing, there's a massive mystery going on. So we would have to then start looking at motives and values. And then I did an interview one time with Clayton on Redacted, and we touched on the topic rapidly, but this is a horrible question to pose, but a terrible reality that people need to at least appreciate exists. What is the street value in the black market for a child? So if you have the ability to manipulate a lot of things by whatever detail you want

and whatever you have available to you as resources, which could be high technology, unbeknownst to most. But if you have these items at your fingertips to cause events by any definition and then helper crews to come in by any definition and give access, well, the next thing, you would have a circumstance where you'd have just a whole bunch of missing children. And we seem to keep having events like this happening. over and over and over again, where children just go missing in bulk. So I would say follow the money, follow the children, follow the disasters,

and then start looking at all of the details and start to consider, are there ways to make these circumstances occur? Could people be playing a deck of cards and we don't even realize this game is going on? Oh, and the other side's winning. So should we make the leap, Eric, that just using Hawaii as an example, that that is something that wasn't natural? And if that's the case, should we make a leap to suspect that other natural disasters within the past year, talk about earthquakes and things like? Absolutely. I think we absolutely need to be having conversations like this more often, that the ability to manipulate the weather or the forces of weather.

the forces of nature, whatever you want to call it. I believe we need to start having dialogues on this topic to discuss literally just that. Like what is the state of energy modification? There's so many things that are going on around us that the general population is just not privy to, but it's going on around us. And I think one thing that the general population

might have a mind, when we talk about this would be well how right they would hear this to say well how how would they do that how would they cause an earthquake how would they cause you know a wildfire in hawaii that would kill you know hundreds and thousands of people like how what are you guys talking about how can that even happen what do you what do you say to someone with with the same circuit boards and computers that everybody touches every day and just reconfiguring them in a way that's more to their detriment i mean how does everything else work around everybody With reconfigurations are the same stuff that everybody else is touching.

They're just going to reconfigure it in a way that now it's to your detriment. And you don't really need to understand how a gun works completely to understand it can blow your brains out when someone's pointing it at your head. So I'm just trying to emphasize to folks that there's an aspect to the digital world called directed energy weapons. they're electronic weapons and they don't provide the same wounds of old but since we are in the throes of a modern

war where these weapons are being wielded with great regularity the vast majority of people in proximity to you are walking wounded but with a new set of symptoms relative to the contemporary weapons being utilized

you know speaking of that actually Eric something that just came out in the mainstream media within the past few weeks was the word about Havana syndrome. And they've spoken to different U.S. agents who all give the same details as far as how they felt when they started to get affected by what they called Havana syndrome because it goes back to how U.S. agents felt it or diplomats started to feel its way in Havana, Cuba. And there's been a lot of talk about this, like I said, and I mentioned mainstream on purpose because these reports hit the mainstream media that have been talked about by people like you and I for the past, you know, a few years.

And now it's out there. And they're pretty much acknowledging Russian agents for using this directed energy weapon to mess with people's minds. Is this the kind of stuff like this that relates to what we're talking about, right? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is reality. Is that there's stuff that's now coming out, you know, people, you know, if this was true, we'd hear something about it. Well, it just keeps more and more information is coming out that supports what I have already put out there.

I mean, I've been doing this for a fistful of years now. The whole world has had every opportunity to step up and say, this is exactly why what Eric Hecker has presented absolutely cannot occur. but that's not what's going on. There's just more and more people that are coming to the understanding of the history of technology, how we got from point A to point B to point Z to where we are now. It's pretty freaking referenceable. The technology exists. There are people that have access to it.

Someone's doing something with it. I mean, everything is observable. There's other systems out there. There's people that are paying attention to the earthquakes on the planet. There are people paying attention. Just because there are bad kids in the sandbox throwing sand around doesn't mean that, you know, we're all going to lose this. It just means that we all have to work together and get things straightened out. Right.

Try to get the bad kids out of the sandbox. How much do you think has changed, Eric, in the past, say, 14 years, I would go from 2010 when you were working in the South Pole. How much do you think has changed just from what you've observed and have heard through the, grapevine and what they were developing then to now. Where do you think it will be six years from now in 2030? Oh, this is the easiest question in the world to answer. Oh, good. What has changed is the enemy has gained so much ground

through mind control, through application of technology. How else could you look at that time period from, you're going to say from 2010 until now, 14 years later, we previously 2010 had a population that was not really involved with smartphones yet.

Right, right. So we still had a world that had, human engagement and interactions completely and digital relations and interactions minimally. Now that has been reversed. That was the intention of our enemies who this is proof of what I'm saying that they're winning because they have changed that ratio. So now the vast majority of human beings are having massive digital engagements over the course of their waking state during the day and having few and far between human interactions or engagements. They're quite simply losing their humanity.

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Dealer inventory may vary. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Event ends March 31st. Toyota, let's go places. What are your thoughts I'm curious on the whistleblower environment when you hear names like David Grush, when you hear names like Ryan Graves or, you know, these men in the military who have come out to speak about what, they've experienced in their roles within government and the intelligence agencies. And even recently, if you're not familiar with the name yet, because this is a new one, if you're not familiar, that's fine. But a name that's making the rounds now is Jason Sand. So I'm wondering, where do you see the current climate right now in the whistleblower world?

I'd see it as a wildly controlled operation on a massive. scale. I find there to be few and far between genuine people in the disclosure community because they all seem to be working as some sort of click and representing one way over here and representing another way over here. And, you know, it's just, it's an amazing network or organization. But if you pay attention to it long enough, you'll see all of the connecting nodes. So it's certainly not natural in how it's functioning. So to me, it's just figuring out how the gatekeepers are crashing through the gates. And this is the problem with truth and trying to get it to the people contemporarily is that, you know,

there's nothing stopping anybody from getting the microphone, getting a camera, starting a web page. You know, so certainly if it's easy for me to do, if it's easy for, you know, you to do. It's also very easy for the alphabet agencies to do. And you think that they're just going to leave this amazing PR opportunity alone? I mean, obviously this field or arena has to be top heavy with feds. It has to be. But I mean, folks, come on. Think about it. There has to be more feds in content creation than there is non-feds or the feds aren't doing their job. I mean, if we know they infiltrated the mass media when it was expensive to buy a reporter or a broadcast network to get them under the wing of the alphabet agency, well, now they don't have to waste all

that money. They can just pay low-grade Fed wages to some knucklehead to be a content creator to try to, you know, manipulate conversations. It's very easy to do. It's just, it's botting in real time, trolling the world brought to you by your tax dollars. Well, I can promise you I'm not a Fed, but maybe that's what a Fed would say. I don't know. But either way, like this is, you know, this is the logic still remains on the table to discuss what percentage of content creators do people believe are feds? because I suggest you need to bump your numbers up.

And how come no one else is saying this? How come no one else in the community is concerned that disinformation is a game still being played and why this playing field would be avoided? Let me throw the scenario out. So where is the disinformation and who is it against, right? So when we're talking about some of the names I mentioned, David Grush or Ryan Graves, are now with Jason Sands? Are they, in your estimation, this information,

trying to point to different things to say, hey, look, absolutely, because what evidence did anybody provide? Or is it the people who are trying to disprove them? It's them. How dare they get as far into the public eye as they're being pressed into when they have zero proof? When someone has zero proof and they're being put up on a pedestal, You have to ask why.

Why are those people put on pedestal and the people who have proof are they invest in ignoring them? If that's not showing the mechanations of a system that is anti-truth, I mean, folks got to really get their blinders off and start paying attention to what's actually going on. It's a theory that I think some people have put out there as far as who to trust, obviously, right? I mean, people argue all the time on Twitter and social media about what? this guy's lying and this guy's lying. I know this guy's telling the truth. And as they all reduce their social interactions, they all lose the ability to have that discernment

that used to be built into every human being. Everybody was very confident when they, you know, got to read on someone at first sight, a gut feeling. Nobody would ever have a problem going against their own experience at the moment. But now all of a sudden, all that gets challenged. and what is your opinion compared to somebody else's opinion? And now people are more worried about making a politically correct response that's approved by society. So they get the right points for the day and pat's on the back versus what their own experience tells them is how they should function in a circumstance.

So as we lose humanity, we lose that discernment. And we can now look at how those that are trying to control us that these are the manipulations. and they're getting exactly what they want. You're right. People don't seem to have the ability anymore to know who to trust. Isn't that interesting? Isn't that a massive problem

that that's what's currently going on in our society is people don't know who to trust anymore? Well, how did that occur? It occurred because people intended for that to occur by separating us from each other for a few decades so that we no longer had the interaction

that would give us that perspective and understanding. So confusion and lack of discernment is the name of the game. Absolutely. Disinformation, misinformation, lies, deception. That is what's going on. And the people are so far out of the loop as to what exists technologically and is being used about them.

It's not like gunshots and gunfire. You don't see it. you don't hear it, but it doesn't mean that you're not caught in the crossfire of those wielding it against each other. Well, it's really interesting. I'm going to switch gears here a little bit because there's a few more things we're to get to before we're done. I thank you so much, Eric, for spending all this time.

I really appreciate you coming back on. You got it. You know, second appearance here on UAP, and it's great to have you on because it's always fascinating discussion, really thought-provoking. So on that note, kind of moving back just real quick to the South Pole. And I meant to bring this up before, so I don't mean to bounce back and forth on things. That's all good. When it comes to extraterrestrial involvement or interaction in Antarctica, there's, I'm sure you're aware, there's been a lot of theories about Antarctica.

There's a cave here that has been seen where a UFO has been coming out of. There's a crash trail that's been shown on satellite imagery that's showing. you know, a cigar-shaped, you know, UAP that had slid across the snow of Antarctica. And there's all these theories about the South Pole's being used basically as a hideaway for, you know, ETs. I'm very open to all possibility existing always, and I'm not against the possibility of any of these things going on. The frustrating thing is that how often these sensational stories are brought up and dangled, in front of the general population, again, with no proof. It's just simply speculating.

It's no different than just writing a fiction story that is not supported in reality. And every time people bring up a subject, you read a chapter out of this fantasy novel. And it seems to happen every time somebody brings up what is going on in verifiable reality. So to me, it just seems like a massive operation to keep people dumbed down

that every time the truth presents itself for a speckle of time, all of a sudden all these gatekeepers come running out of the woodwork with, did you know that there could be this? And maybe there's a that. And oh, there was a picture on the internet. None of these things ever seem to come out with anybody ever putting their name on it. Nobody's ever said, I hiked into Antarctica. I found this hole. This is the picture I took. There's never anything. sources. It's always just this mystery, trust me, I'm not an AI creating an article. And let's realize that the people that want to speculate for speculation's sake, for ad nauseum, are there to waste our time and energy from getting down to the problems.

The term is actionable intelligence. That's what I'm trying to look for. They're not, no one, no one's really bringing actionable intelligence to these conversations. Right. I'd like to think that I'm a diamond in the rough in that capacity is that I've actually brought actionable intelligence. I can't make the actions occur. But the people that are hearing what I'm saying, those in the know, and I get that's few and far between.

But there's a lot of people that do appreciate the information that I've put out there, and they do understand. There are folks that can do something about this if they choose to. There's not a lot of people in disclosure that can say that they've brought actionable intelligence to the table. And that's where I think a lot of these people are just schmose and operatives and agents by some definition because it looks to me like it's just still part of the big game of them trying to flood the playing field, so to say, with misinformation or disinformation because, you know, it muddies the waters for the truth coming out. Well, you are absolutely one of those people who can bring the actionable intelligence, and you have, you know, many times. One of the places that you did it was at the Disclosure Project in June of 2023,

held by Dr. Stephen Greer. Do you still work with Dr. Greer or with some of the guys who were there? Mike Herrera, who I've had on the show a couple of times in D.C. Long, who I still speak to here and there, actually. And he's been on the show. So is that something that you guys still stay in contact as far as? the actual intelligence that all three of you brought that day and have brought still since then? We do keep in touch, actually.

I find Michael and D.C. to be extremely funny human beings. Yeah, you guys. And we get along great. So, yeah, I mean, we always discuss having more conversations, which now that you said that, it reminds me I should contact them and have chat. It could overdue technically. Dr. Greer and I have stayed in contact, I guess more as friends than professionals. I know he got hurt bad recently, but is doing better.

So, you know, my hat goes off to him for his efforts. I've done some stuff with some of the production crew from his event. And there's supposed to be some sort of documentary coming out. but they're having issues. I mean production stuff. I don't... Right. I guess it's just like building a house.

You know, sometimes it doesn't go on schedule and everybody's like, yeah, that's, yeah, that's what happens. So one of those things is going on.

That's how that goes. No, but that's such cool to hear that, you know, you get that contact and, you know, I'd love to have you all on together if that could ever,

you know, materialize. I think that would be fantastic. I think everybody would enjoy that. Oh, yeah. Every time I'm on with that, Mike or DC, yeah, things are a bit interesting.

That would be a lot of fun. Very recently, in the series of episodes that I had put out on the traditional side of, you know, of the UAP podcast, I had been covering over the past couple of episodes the subject of remote viewing. And I think it's something that you've had experience with, yes? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. So I want to get to that today because it's a subject that I find extremely fascinating. Going back to Edgar Casey, going back to Joe McMonigal, who that's the person I was speaking about action, the two-part series that I put out over the past week or two. Just really, really fascinating stuff and the ability behind it of being able to essentially have space and time, Nolan Boyd. to see different things in different times and different parts of the world. Yeah, things are way more complex than we've been allowed to consider.

So this is where we need to, this is where we need to take our brains and realize that, you know, like you're delving into remote viewing. Well, guess what you're going to find out? It's all legit. Now what do you do? Looking around the world about you, realizing that technically everyone has this power of to them. Some people use it better than others, but we all have access to this skill set, just like we all have access to becoming the world's greatest guitarist. There's nothing stopping

anyone from learning how to play a guitar better than they can right now, which might be that they can't. But that doesn't mean that you can't practice and learn and become proficient. And certainly some people are better at it than others. But this is a lot of it. But this is a lot of is no different of a practicable skill set that if somebody was going to it's like it is like a return on investment you do know like if you put more time into practicing a guitar you will get better yeah that it functions so it's the same thing with remote viewing whatever people want to call it this mysterious toolkit that nobody wants to talk about you know that the energy aspect of what's going on around us in mystery.

is something that we can work with. Yeah. That's why it's so fascinating to me to think that, you know, we all have that ability within us just as a matter of, again, how much time are we willing to spend to put into it to tap into that into. Right. And now what do we now what do we do when we have to start to put our brains in the direction? Well, what if there's an aspect of humanity that's always been dealing with this,

always been good at it. We don't even have words now for this type of classism, so to say. You know, when you have whole aspects of society that could be like a secret royalty based on cognitive skills or abilities. I mean, it gets really peculiar really fast to realize that, you know, we, we could have amongst us our own worst enemies is that it could be, you know, high-level mental enslavement? Well, it's something that we know.

It's not even really an opinion. It's something that we know that human and both the Russian government had employed in spy games is having remote viewers. And that's where, you know, a guy like Joe came in where he was employed by the U.S. the CIA, the Army, to look into finding KGB spies. And then they also kind of said, hey, can you look into Mars and some alien bases that might be under some mountains? So, you know, he had a very long career with this. And I believe it's at the Monroe Institute, if I'm not mistaken.

But what is your experience, Eric, what kind of experience have you had with remote viewing? Where is that road taking you? My experience was that it started in my youth as some sort of. of offshoot project or one of the alphabet agencies was to work with children and to test for and or improve whatever was inherent in a child that made them a good remote viewer. And there are folks, I should say there is a folk. There's a gentleman by the name of David Morehouse, who has been interviewed twice now. I believe it was on the, I think, Danny Jones podcast.

And in one of the videos, he discusses being in the United States remote viewing program in the late 70s, early 80s. And he mentions that they became privy to foreign nations having these programs that were involving children. and that it was almost immediately approved. Well, if they're doing it, we have to do it. So bingo, there was a program that was admitted to by one of the remote viewers stating that they then took that program and started applying it to children. And that's what he stated. That supports my claim that I have said that when I was a kid, they were doing the Robert Monroe Institute Remote Viewing protocols, training, hemisink to us as children.

How are you chosen for that? How did that come about? I guess through the testing at my school, that they were, you know, filtering through children and abilities. And I, I tested out really well. I was a smart son of a bitch in grammar school. It was so easy to me. I mean, to be completely honest, that's just putting it plain and simple.

I mean, I feel like ridiculous saying it because it should be obvious, but yet I guess some people found elementary school challenging. I found it like the easiest thing in the world as a kid, like reading, writing, math at an elementary level was so freaking easy. And that kind of led you down that road and you found yourself in this program. What kind of experiences did you have there? Did you end up sticking with remote viewing? Did you see other kids that, you know, ended up? becoming more involved with the program as yours went on? It's very interesting that it was pretty complex.

There was a decent amount of children around. It happened both on property for the school, off property, at what they were called retreats or other facilities. So there was a lot going on with it in hindsight. They, I guess, do a really good job at hiding it in plain sight. but my interactions, you know, I guess the remote viewing side of it as a toolkit was interesting to be privy to and now understand better. But there was also, you know, abuses going on as well, which seemed to be somehow part of certain programs. So I don't want to implicate the Monroe Institute in as so far as certain aspects, but I feel like that they're,

were other groups that were intermingling certain groups. And so some aspects of one program overlap into other aspects of an other program. And I don't think that it necessarily makes all parties liable to each other. That's some semblance of a disclaimer to that some people who are culpable in this than others. When you look back on it, do you remember different instances where you're like, man, I can't believe that I was part of that session and saw what I saw. I mean, did they put you through the ringer where you can say, you know, I look back at this time or looked forward to this time and I think what I have more of a recollection of is that now my brain is happy because what was

going on when I was a child, like as I was experiencing it at the time, they weren't explaining to us what we were doing. So it made no sense. So my brain is happy now is that I now came across as an adult what the Monroe Institute protocols and the question, how they go through with the idiogram to get to the information. When I came across that information now, which is later, from my perspective, it was a recollection of what we were doing when I was a kid. So to me, it went full circle because I was like, wow, now that makes sense. Now that someone explains and I see what this process is, they weren't filling me in. So I had no way to have closure on the activity because it made no sense with no explanation.

But now with understanding and an explanation of the activity that I went in decades before, it feels great to just have that understanding and be like, now I know what they were doing. So, you know, when they would ask me things like, what do you see? Mountains or a lake, do you see land or water? Say whatever comes to your head. Whatever you say is right. When I was a kid, that made no sense to me. To be told that was just so bizarre.

Just pick anything in my head and the answer is correct. Makes no sense with no explanation. But now when they say that you're remote viewing and you're hitting a target and you're doing well, okay, well, at least there's some reasoning behind what's going on in this conversation right now, whether you have value in the veracity of remote viewing is another thing. But at least you can understand what someone's trying to do in that exchange. Yeah. And I wasn't even being given that. Have you kept up with it or have you been asked to use it by anyone in, you know, positions of power? You know something it seems interesting to me is that everybody seems to be really concerned

about whether I remote view or not still. I would say that I don't feel comfortable with the term remote viewing because that's a very technical term for an activity that is defined by protocols and processes. So I would say by the definition of the question, no, I am not in the activity of remote viewing. But what I would say is that I've always seemed to have some skill that I refer to as knowing. And that is something that I seem to always be adept at and it just works. I mean, there's lots of times I just know something, which is almost semantics with a remote viewer. when they come back from a viewing because the whole idea is just having information in your head

where you can't really define where you got it from. You just know that you used none of your five senses to get it. And exactly. And yet you're right. So that's knowing, right? If you ask me a question and I have the answer in my head. If I know the answer, but I don't even know how I know the answer or can explain, I'm no less wrong. so knowing can function if you're right it's it's it's kind of like i don't know it seems it feels like a taboo subject for some people when they hear the term and they're like well i'm not really sure what to think of that but to your point like you said earlier it's something that's everybody can tap into it's just a matter of like you said practice and ability and you know what level are

you starting off at you know yeah absolutely and in a way it would just be like like it would be like as ridiculous as if we were in denial about guitars and people's ability to play guitar. Why would you be against everybody getting good at guitar if all this, you know, it's just, it's just this thing. And then once we realize the benefit of something, well, then we can start to, you know, A, just acknowledge that it exists. Right. You know, and then decipher how much we need it all the time or everywhere.

but regardless, you know, we need to just consider that there's a reason that we have this skill set, and there's a reason that there's folks that want us to forget we have this skill set. I think it's probably hard for people to wrap, you know, their heads around the fact that you can do that, that you can view a different time and space or, you know, a different part of the country. You're just sitting in your own room, and this is something. a skill that you can develop. How often are you right where you actually can ascertain that you have no way to know that you are right? Like you have no means to define where your information came from. And I suggest that we're actually doing this more than we pay attention to. And I think if you

focus on these types of things, you can increase the frequency and thus start training yourselves in the applications of these energies and intentions by just simply becoming observant to the frequency for which we're already doing it, which is more than you think. Yeah, I think it's happened to all of us. You're like, man, you know, oh, I had a feeling to call you. Is everything okay? You know, and something like that. Yeah, these gut feelings. Right. Yes, little things in life, but there are certain reeds of energies that there are, there are at times. You will find that plain and simple. There will be times where you know something. You're going to be right. The information will come out of your head and you're like, I have no idea how I knew that.

But regardless, if at that moment your information is correct, well, then you were right. You knew something without knowing and you connected to a truth without any experience. And that's the nexus of remote viewing. Pretty much is now being able to steer that ship, knowing that the activity can occur and does occur. Now it's just a matter of doing it with intention. You know, it's the difference between playing a guitar and walking over one by accident.

They're both going to make noise. It's a good point. It's good analogy. Well, I'll get you out of here on this, Eric. I just want to give you the stage, give you the floor, anything else on your mind that if you can get one message across today in this over an hour that we've spoken here, if there's something that you want people to take away from this conversation,

what's the one thing you want people to walk away from this and say, boy, you know, that was really intriguing what Eric was saying. Folks, you have to get into action. you can no longer just watch this show go on. It's time to fight back. It's time to start identifying the liars, who the con men are, who the gatekeepers are, because they're more prevalent in this conversation,

and it would help the actual whistleblowers if you could sweep the shit off the floor before we arrive. Well, there you have it. Eric Hackeray, thank you so much. I have a feeling this isn't our last conversation. That's my remote viewing. I see us talking again in the future. I can see it right now in my mind.

So until then, Eric, thank you so much again for spending all this time for coming back here with me on UAP. And I look forward to talking to you again soon because I know there's a lot more that's a lot more ground than we can cover with everything going on in the world today. Absolutely. Steve is a great chat. Thanks for having me on. Talk soon. Thank you. And that will do it for this part two series with myself and Eric Hecker.

Really, again, and I said it in the, you know, at the end of the interview right there with him. But honestly, again, just so happy that he was able to come back on. He doesn't do a lot of interviews. You know, it's kind of sporadic from what I've seen. So it is something that I feel honored that he is, is, you know, comfortable enough to come on here on UAP with me to talk about all these things. And I am, you know, being truthful there at the end where I said I hope to be able to speak to him again in the future. I absolutely plan on speaking with Eric again. I think he has such a unique perspective on all of these subjects going on around us.

And his, you know, firsthand experiences as he claims in Antarctica. So really unique opportunity and discussion every time we get to speak to Eric Hecker here on the show. So I hope you enjoyed that surprise. That was something that I teased a few weeks back on Twitter that I would have a surprised guest on at the end of April, even though now this part two and comes out at the beginning of May. But hopefully you enjoy this two-part series. I really did.

And I can't wait to bring out even more episodes of UAP in the very new future. Actually, coming up next week is a really, really cool interview I did with a man named Dan Harari, who you may have heard of before, pretty famous in the UAP UFO circles. He's actually a publicist in Hollywood and works with a lot of celebrities and everything, but he himself has gotten into the UAP discussion within the past year or two. And his story, when I tell you, his story is absolutely fascinating. There were two different instances in our interview together where I actually physically got chills while we were talking. It's just really, really good stuff.

So I'm really looking forward to putting. that interview out for you next week. And Dan, it was a great guy. And we talk about a lot of different subjects. We talk about contact in the desert coming up, which is a huge conference coming up, actually at the end of May. So you're going to hear about all that and his work with the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, which is a really cool mission that he has started and spearheaded and has actually gathered some really, really big names to be a part of this new Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. So you're going to hear about all that next week with Dan Harari, really cool guy and just an incredible story. So I can't wait to put that out for you next week right here on UAP Weekly.

Until then, of course, don't forget to download, subscribe, rate. Don't forget to put those ratings or reviews out there on UAP, wherever you get your podcast on Apple and Spotify and everything like that. I always appreciate all of the positive feedback. And if you want to reach out to me directly, you can do so through email or on social media. email is S-Diener UAP at g-m-L-com That's S-D-I-E N-R-U-A-P at g-mail.com

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So follow along, play along And you can reach out to me there as well But again hopefully you enjoy this two-part series and I can't wait to come back to you with more as we move forward here on UAP and UAP weekly. So until next time, Stephen Deiner here is saying again, thank you so much for everything for all your support and I can't wait to talk to you again soon right here on the Unidentified Alien podcast. Be well. Talk to you soon. Thanks.