UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Greatest Hits: Pilot Sightings

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

For decades, pilots of all kinds have been reporting strange sightings in the sky. Some go unnoticed, while others leave an indelible mark for years to come. In this episode, Diener and Karen explore three such instances where the testimony and evidence are so overwhelming, they will leave you shaken. Including this story about a Japanese pilot whose sighting of a mothership was backed up by radar and even caused turbulence on his cargo jetliner...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It's about continuing the story. Explore your options at kingsley manor.org, a nonprofit month-to-month senior community within the Front Porch family. Welcome in to another edition of UAP's greatest hits. Stephen Dean are back with you here on the Unidentified Alien podcast. And happy Thanksgiving. I'll just say that again to everyone celebrating here in the States. Hopefully everybody had a great time. But I'm bringing back out episode 11 today for a few reasons.

This was called Pilot Sightings. It originally aired on September 10th, 2021, just a couple months into the existence of UAP, actually. So why is this one coming out now and a couple of notes to go along with it real quick before we get into it? Number one, on the notes, you'll hear a Karen Curtis in here, good old Karen Curtis, since this is an older episode, one of the original episodes. And of course, Karen was on the show with me for a while. So you're going to hear good old Karen in this episode. And also, if you do hear anything referring to pictures on the UAP blog, those pictures don't exist anymore.

So if you go looking for it, you won't find those pictures. I just want to throw that out there. So those are just a couple of the notes. But as far as some of the other, you know, different pieces that connect to this, why this one right now, episode 11 pilot sightings? Well, for a few reasons. Number one, the simple reason, it's Thanksgiving break. So I thought it would be a good time to put out a greatest hit's episode. That way, you know, we still have something out there during the break.

And then I can look forward to coming back to you. with another new episode, which would be episode 95, once the holiday break is over. So good time for a greatest hits episode. And also for one of the reasons I always put out greatest hits episodes because I really like some of the older stuff that I've done. And I don't want it to get lost in the history of UAP episodes. Gets, you know, buried under the heap. There's been all together, believe or not, I actually just saw this and I was, I was shocked.

I didn't know I had this many episodes. but there's been 180 episodes of UAP combined with some of the special episodes I've done, the UAP weeklies I had been doing for a long time, and the classic episodes of UAP, 180 episodes. So there's a lot of opportunity for older episodes like this that are like three years old to get buried under the heap. So I want to try to bring some of these up,

resurface some of these older ones sometimes because I'm proud of these older episodes as well. So hopefully if you haven't heard them, you can enjoy it for the first time or if you have heard it, you can enjoy it another time. Either way. So I always like to try to do that once in a while. And the third reason being I like to also try to be topical when it comes to the greatest

hits episodes. And that's one of the really the main reasons why I'm doing this today and putting out pilot sightings at this moment is because it really does relate to what I just spoke about in episode 94, which came out a few days ago, talking about these incursions over the three different REF bases, these U.S. Air Force bases, in the UK. And some people say it's drones. Some people say they're,

they just call them unmanned aerial vehicles, which is basically just a drone. Some people say it's obviously adversarial. They're spying on us. And others say there's no way it's a drone from an adversary because they would be shot down by now. It can't be a private drone. So there's all this different talk.

And some people conclude that, well, these are obviously UAPs. And the British Ministry of Defense and the U.S. Air Force, who are working together on this, are being very hush-hush about it. Their official comment is to have no comment. I'm not kidding you. That's literally their official stance right now

is to have no comment on the situation because they're still dealing with it. This is an active situation where, and I talked all about this in episode 94, so I don't want to rehash the same thing. So if you haven't heard that, by all means, you can listen to episode 94 as well. But, you know, with it being still an active situation,

these sightings happening, drone, human, non-human, whatever you want to say, UAP or drone, again, you know, it's up to you. I just try to gather all the facts and the details, and as always, we make up our own minds. So your call of what's been happening, what's been seen, and why it's not being shot down, you know, or engaged over these three different REF bases in the UK. So that's still going on. And so I figured, you know what, pilot sightings, perfect time to rehab. this old episode and put it all together with what's happening today. And also just in the past

couple of days, on the night of November 26th, I didn't even get to talk about this because it happened after I put out episode 94, like eight hours after I put it out, there were strange lights seen over the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. Again, some people say, well, it's obviously drones, but you have to understand you're not allowed to fly these things over Air Force bases and landmarks like the Capitol building. Now, just, because you're not allowed to, it doesn't mean people wouldn't, but there would be some type of engagement. If it's a private, you know, drone pilots, if something like that, where someone a civilian is doing this, it wouldn't last very long. And if we do have out of a series

flying drones over our Capitol building here in the States, well, that's a very big problem as well, just like they're doing right now within the three different REF bases in the UK. So, the question still remain. And there's not a lot of... a lot of answers being given right now from either the U.S. Air Force or the British Ministry of Defense. So all that said, I thought this was a good time to put out pilot sightings with this Greatest Hits episode. I hope you enjoy it, and I'll be back again soon with a brand new episode here of UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. That will be episode 95, and we'll see what that brings. So until then, enjoy this greatest hits episode right here, Pilot Sightings on UAP. Thanks.

Oh yeah, you know what that music means. Welcome in to episode 11 of UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Stephen Deiner right here, Karen Curtis over there, and we are ready to go on another wild ride after our two-part series of the ancient aliens. Theories and stories and happenings is all done. We are now moving on back to modern times, Karen. How are you? I'm well.

And you know what? We're so on top of everything. Yeah, we try. Here at UAP. Our episode eight, we had. sound from the former Arizona governor, Fife Simeon. Yes, everybody, Fife. Remember, he broke away from his security and drove his own car to see the lights of her

Phoenix? That's right. Yeah, on our, like you said, episode of eight of mass sightings, and that was one of the more famous ones that we talked about. Indeed, it was, and we're so ahead of the curve. He is now going to be the keynote speaker today at an annual conference that takes place. Apparently, it's going to be online, but it would be in Phoenix.

Remember, he saw these lights over Phoenix when he was governor, but didn't talk about it until recently. Well, I saw a huge craft just kind of come right over a squaw peak that was just breathtaking. Yeah, so we had that back in episode 8, what, a few weeks ago. Now, here we are, and he's the keynote speaker at this conference taking place in Phoenix. So how do you like that? Yeah, they never determined what the lights were, but he saw them. And so if you want to check it out, our episode 8 podcast. has all of that information

and interview with him. You can catch any of the episodes if you missed any of the past 10, which, by the way, I should also mention this is the beginning of season two. This is season two now of UAP. So we decided to kind of break it up into seasons. I thought that would be a little bit more fancy.

I like it. And so since we ended last time with Ancient Aliens Part 2, it was episode 10, I thought, well, let's start fresh here. Season 2, episode one now, which is episode 11 overall of UAP. And we talked about the Masca Lines and Go Beckley-Tepe and all the crazy stuff that has been built on the earth like 50,000 years ago by aliens.

By aliens or check all that out. Or berry gatherers, but I got you a present. Oh, you did? Yeah. And it's a reference to the NASCAR lines. That's all I'm going to say. All right. Well, I look forward to seeing that.

But you can, yeah, check it all out. 850WFTL.com. You can search for the UAP blog, all the past. episodes are there or you can also of course search it anywhere you look for your podcast Apple Spotify you can find every episode of UAP and take a listen binge listen I guess if that's a thing absolutely and I guess it kind of takes us into our next subject here and make sure you subscribe oh yes would you so one of the most interesting airline pilot sightings Stephen yes because that's what this is all about here today because we talked about the

lights over Phoenix of a UFUFUFS sightings today that kind of leads into what would is sightings from pilots. And this has actually happened more than you might have realized. I mean, there's a lot of sightings. We're only to talk about three today, but there's so many more that I had to cut out when we were looking at some of the research here for today's episode. But these three really kind of highlights some of the more fascinating pilot citing stories ever recorded, honestly. So two of them are backed up by radar, which is kind of interesting. And the third one, there was photographic evidence, and multiple people saw it. But this one happened actually over Alaska.

It was a Japanese cargo plane piloted by a guy. He had 10,000 flight hours. He'd been flying for 29 years. He was stationed in Alaska and Anchorage. So he was flying the leg from Paris to Tokyo, and he had a cargo load of Bougalé wine. Oh, good. And no, he had not been drinking it. No, I'm glad you said that.

He says that's the first thing someone's going to Oh, well, he was drunk then. He must have been drinking the wine. No. Yeah, the guy carrying all the wine saw UFO. Right. No. So this guy on flight 1628, the Japanese Airlines,

he saw a mother ship four times bigger than an aircraft carrier, and it caused turbulence to his plane. He did. Now, try to imagine that. Imagine the size of an aircraft carrier, okay? These giant ships that float through the oceans, of the world with all the aircraft. They're big enough to hold multiple fighter jets, okay?

And we're talking about four times bigger. Now, if you've ever been to any type of, you know, shipyard or, you know, like a Navy day or something. It's big. They're huge these things. They're buildings. Fife Symington said that the lights over Phoenix, the thing he saw was so big a plane could land on it.

That's right. So now you're talking about something similar to size and what they saw in Phoenix. and now you're talking about something that is being described by a pilot, a seasoned pilot, as four times bigger than an aircraft carrier. Could you imagine seeing something like that while you're flying? And then, I mean, it's causing turbulence to your aircraft? No. In fact, it wasn't just him.

It was the two other crew members saw it too. So there were three people. Right. And he's a veteran Japanese pilot. And he said that this mysterious object was so enormous, it dwarfed his cargo plane full of wine. That's right, yeah. And cargo planes are big.

Yeah. I mean, those are really big aircraft. I mean, he's an ex-fighter pilot. He's obviously not a kamikaze pilot. No, gosh, no. Gosh. And in the cockpit's left hand seat, his co-pilot, Takanori Tamafuchi.

Oh, good. You nailed it. Thank you. And in the right seat, the flight engineer, Yoshiro Tuscuba. That's a goobah. Yes. Okay. So anyway, they had tons of flight hours between them,

and he drew a picture of the object. And he said it looked like a giant walnut-shaped object. Yeah. Walnuts go really good with Red Boy. They do, actually. But this is something that if you've never seen the picture, because I've seen the picture, of course. But we'll have it up on our UAPBlog 850wFTL.com.

So you can listen, and you can go back and say, oh, okay, so this is what the picture looked like. So that'll be accompanying the podcast, if you will, when you listen to this. So it was a walnut shape with big bulges above and below a wide flattened brim. Yeah. And you're talking about, again, something enormous where, again, these are three different pilots, co-pilots, whatever you want to call them, who are seeing the same thing. They can't all be wrong, right?

I mean, this is something, this isn't some, you know, cow farmer in Kansas or whatever who's standing out in his field looking up in the sky and saying, wow, look at that. I wonder what that could be. I wonder what that is. Yes, these are seasoned pilots who are describing something otherworldly, and they're having trouble describing how could this thing even be flying, and who does it belong to?

Well, in that and screwing up their aircraft, I know many pilots who've seen things, but they don't want to say anything, you know, because they get ridiculed. But this thing was causing turbulence. They said that there were two others. crafts as well that were escorting the big one and they had arrays of what appeared to be glowing nozzles or thrusters their bodies remained obscured by darkness and then when they got close right the aircraft's cabin lit up and the captain could feel the heat from them on his face then these two departed before the third much larger disc started trailing them and that's when it started

causing all kinds of turbulence and their radios were breaking up and it's In order to change altitude or make any moves, they needed to get in contact with the tower. Right. And they couldn't because they were breaking up. Which is a common theme you're going to hear, actually, in some of these other stories. The instruments just go crazy. And you hear that with every other pilot encounter as well. They talk about how sometimes the instruments shut off.

They go haywire. They can't use things. Things just break down. And, I mean, whether that has to do. It gets jammed or something. Right. So is that have to do with the, you know, maybe supposed electromagneticism of the UFO? or some type of weapon system that's being used.

I mean, we don't know. But the fact of the matter is they're not the first pilots to, as you're going to hear, to report that type of phenomenon when it comes to encountering these things in midair. And it's funny you also say, Karen, that a lot of these pilots, like Five Symington, who was the governor, right? He was the governor of Arizona. And he was also a former fighter pilot before becoming governor of Arizona when the Phoenix Lights happened in 1997. These are no schlubs.

And these are people who, like you said, for fear of being ridiculed or saying, you know, hey, you're crazy, you can't fly anymore. They just don't report it. Now, in this case, the pilot of the Japanese cargo plane did report it against his superior's wishes. They said, you better not tell anybody about this. Well, he told the newspaper, and I guess in pilot terms, they said, you'll be flying a desk for the rest of your career. And he did. Flying a desk.

They did. They took him out of the sky. A guy who had over 10,000 hours a flight. Poor Captain Kanjou Tarucci. I mean, it's unbelievable. This is what they did to these people. And now, you know, people will talk about it more freely because of the disclosure from Congress and the UFO report and everything. That's right, which verifies there are UFOs, okay?

The government says so. And that's why we started doing this podcast. That's right. But the cargo plane was actually on autopilot when he started, you know, seeing these things. So they were flying parallel and suddenly approached very close. and he requested and received FAA permission to take whatever action was necessary to avoid the object, which was a big-ass thing. And the FAA confirmed on Tuesday the government radar picked up the object that Tarucci said followed his Boeing 747 cargo jet.

It followed him. He did a circle maneuver, complete circle. It went away for a couple seconds. And then it was back again behind him causing all kinds of turbulence. Yeah, there's been other reports too. And I think it happened in this case, but it definitely. in other pilot siding cases where you have these things come up on radar. And sometimes they're so big that the air traffic controllers have actually thought,

well, that's got to be a flock of birds or that's got to be a cluster of ships. But it ends up being just one. We take up the whole screen. Right. It ends up being one massive thing on the radar. And they can't understand why or how that's even happening. But it happened. Well, United Flight 69 was near.

And they said, you want to go take a look? And the pilot said, now this is a pass. passenger plane. The pilot of that plane says, fine, I'll go look at it, but he stayed like 20 kilometers behind because he's got passengers on board just for safety purposes. He didn't see anything. And so a group of UFO skeptics say the crew on the Japanese cargo ship saw Jupiter and Mars. Or it was crystals in the sky, but the weather was clear that night. Right. It's always swamp gas or light reflecting off of Venus. I was nowhere near there. Yes, that's right. It's so silly. I mean, these explanations that they come up with. How do you even believe that? Honestly,

if you're a skeptic listening to this show right now and you're thinking, well, it's got to be this or that, do you honestly believe? And you can believe whatever you want, but how is it going to take? Right. I mean, and how do you convince yourself seriously that, oh, well, it was just the light from Jupiter and Venus reflecting and that's what they saw. How can you honestly believe that to be a good explanation? Venus is the number one UFO. citing illegitimate one. It's a planet. But that's the number one thing that's spotted in the sky and mistakenly thought to be a UFO. And that's totally fine. Look, I'll be the first person to concede that there's a lot of stupid people out there.

But at the same time... But Venus doesn't move suddenly straight up in the air and disappear. Exactly. Those are people who are seeing a bright light in the sky and they don't know what the planets are. So when you have people who are trained pilots or fighter pilots, people who essentially, it's their second nature to be in the air. They understand how aeronautics work. And it's not the first time they've seen, you know, Jupiter and Mars while they're flying. I think they understand the difference between what Jupiter and Mars looks like versus a ship that's four times bigger than an aircraft carrier that they drew a picture of to describe. That looks like a walnut.

I don't think planets are shaped like walnuts. Get real. It was a big ass nut. Yes. This is the first time they were in the air and they said, what are those bright lights in the sky? They don't know what the planets are? Let me a break. Hey, guys.

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slash UAP. Go to shopify.com slash UAP. That's Shopify.com slash UAP. Picture the two of you sitting side by side, a Mai Tai in your hands, and the sounds of Hawaii around you. You almost forget you're on a plane. And that's the point. Because when you fly with Hawaiian Airlines, it's hard to tell where your flight ends and vacation begins. Hawaii starts here. So there was a three-month investigation by the FAA. They formally released their results at a press conference in 1987, and they suggested that their controllers confirmed that there wasn't a UFO.

They said it was a split radar image, which appeared with unfortunate timing. Oh, I see. And he said the FAA did not have enough material to confirm that something was this. and though they were accepting the descriptions by the crew, they were unable to support what they saw. But then the sighting received so much special attention from the media. And as a supposed instance of a tracking of a UFO on both ground and airborne radar, it was being observed by experienced airline pilots with significant confirmation from an FAA division chief. It then kind of became, yeah, it's a real.

Yeah, a little bit more, you know, weight behind it, so to speak. It wasn't like skeptics were saying two planets in the sky. It's a little hard to deny it when you've got, you know, ground and airborne radar, airline pilots, three of them. And then also an FAA division chief all saying, yeah, there was something there. Right. So that's the bottom line. And that was really, again, you know, we wanted to start with that one because it's such a fascinating case. It kind of had it all. You had multiple witnesses.

You had radar proof as well. And then you have the FAA coming on eventually and, you know, acknowledging that this did happen and they don't know what it was. And you also have the instance of a pilot who decided to speak up and paid the ultimate price for it. I mean, they... He's flying a desk. Yeah, exactly. They made him fly the desk. They took away what he loved to do because he was willing to speak up and say what he saw.

At least they didn't make him a kamikaze pilot. Oh, gosh. Okay. So now we've got the Iranian fighter pilots encounter UFO. three times over a span of multiple years. Right. So this is pretty crazy. So we go to the other side of the world now.

Okay. And the first encounter, I believe, correct me from Ron Karen, is 1976. Correct, over the desert of Tehran. Yes. And now keep in mind, you might think to yourself, yes, it's modern day terms. So how was Iran, you know, how do they have this Air Force and everything? Now, they're flying our planes. Yes, there was a certain time where we actually did work with Iran before the revolution

and all those different things. They had our F4 Tomcats, I believe, is what it is. And now they've got even more stuff. Yeah, well, that's a whole different story for a different podcast. But that's so those are the airplanes or the fighter jets that they were using at that time. And they still use them now because they couldn't get any new stuff from us for, you know, world diplomatic and politic reasons. But this is something that goes back to 1976 where an Iranian pilot ends up seeing something in the sky,

chases after the lights. and, I mean, really chaos ensues from there. Yeah, so the fighter pilots, there's several of them, seeing an object with multicolor lights, and the planes, weapons, and instruments go down. Right. See, there you go again. It was just after midnight, September 19th, 1976. Again, he's over the desert, right?

Right. And residents started calling the airport. They're seeing the lights, too, on the ground in the sky. And it looked like there was, it was like someone was looking for something. Yes, right. So it was kind of, you know, maneuvering, very oddly with the way that the lights were moving as well. And he said it looked like shooting stars being controlled by some unknown entity.

And that's really, it fits the description of a lot of the sightings that we hear about, of UFOs, UAPs, of this instantaneous movement where it goes from point A to point B and almost a blink of an eye. Right. And it moves in ways that are physically impossible for us to engineer. No sound, no contrail. Right. So they scrambled the F4 fighter planes, and when they approached the UFO, everything went down. Their dials, instruments, weapons, all jammed. And then a second F4 Phantom was deployed at about 140, and the UFO reflected off its radar field.

So it was just like it was blocking it. The radar apparently had multi-color lights, and it was causing this deflection. And the craft stopped and then defied physics. It was going Mach 10, which is 7,600 miles an hour. We have no planes that can do that. Our rocket ships can. We have one ship that went like 6.8,000 miles an hour from NASA. But this thing stops on a dime and defies physics by just sitting in the air.

Right. And this kind of adds when you look back to the USS Nimitz encounter from 2014, I believe that was, where that's the video. That's the video that started at all that kind of opened up this congressional. hearing. They got people talking about it in the mainstream news where these Navy pilots were saying, yeah, we were chasing these things, kind of like the Iranian pilot. They were in the same situation. And, I mean, you've seen the video, if you've never seen the video, maybe we'll put that on the UAP blog as well for episode 11, where, I mean, it's a famous video now where the UFO is stopping on a dime. It's turning into its side. It's going super fast across the water, almost to

the point where, you know, our Navy couldn't keep up with it in the fighter jets. Yeah. It's what? Five times a speed of sound or something. Right. But then it drops a ball of light, a bright object out of its main hall. And it looked like a torpedo made of light. Yes. And apparently the fighter jet got target lock and then it jammed. Right. So he was going out. I mean, it was essentially a dog fight. Right. It was an Iranian pilot with a dog fight with a UFO over Tehran. And as he was about, like you said, Karen, about to fire his weapon really. The instruments get jammed. So What kind of capability are we dealing with here?

Well, they can just jam our weapons, jam our systems, and we can't do a darn thing about it. And they also fired like a laser missile. Right. So that one thing went to the ground, the other one missile was aimed at the fighter jets, and their missile lock jammed. And then that missile went back to the ship,

but they dropped that bright ball, went on the ground when it finished, it went back to the mother ship. And there was no trace whatsoever of this UFO or whatever it shot to the ground. It was never found or never reported. And if you remember going back to one of our previous episodes, I want to say maybe this was episode five, possibly. I forget.

If I'm wrong, please forgive me, with the Dulce base wars. It reminds me of the description of the alien weapon that Phil Schneider. That blew his fingers off. That's right. He talked about that ray of light that came out of their weapon and kind of like opened them up and took his fingers off his hand and all these different crazy things. burned his toes and all this. So it kind of, oddly enough, matches the description of how these weapons look. It's a lightsaber.

Yeah, maybe. So the second encounter was in 2004. Right. Strange aircraft spotted over Iran. They scrambled their F4 Tomcats that we gave them. Actually, they used the F4 Tomcats to protect their nuclear sites. Right. And the UFO was picked up on radar this time.

Pilots climbed into their F4 Tomcats, scrambled to. to fight a possible attack on their nuclear facilities. Right. So now at this point, you have the Iranian forces panicking because they're thinking, holy cow, I mean, who's attacking our nuclear facility? You know, maybe they're thinking it's the U.S., maybe they're thinking it's Russia. They did. Who knows?

So they're thinking, well, somebody is flying. There's something. There's something flying over our nuclear facility. That we know because we can see it on a radar. We need to get somebody out there right now. So this is one of those like indisputable. cases. Yeah, well, they've got radar and 16 jets

were scrambled. Right, so it's not like they saw something. They didn't see Jupiter and Mars on their radar flying over their nuclear facility. This is a little different because it had a green aura. Right. And apparently, one of the F-4s tried to get lock on the

object, but it jammed again. And then it also created turbulence like a thunderstorm. And then a spherical object then shot off leaving a green tail of light. Right. Which is unusual. You actually don't hear about some type of trail like that. You know, you normally hear about, you know, you don't see any trail. You don't hear any sound. Right. That's weird, right? Right. So that's, to me, and maybe someone else has heard this before, but that's actually for me of all the stories I've come across over the years, that's the first time I've heard of a visible trail of anything. Right. When it comes to a UFO. Maybe it's the Aurora Borealis. Well, maybe.

Oh, boy. So then, Stephen, in 2012, a blip appeared out of nowhere on the radar over Iran, and the military scrambled more fighter jets, and one of them exploded in the air. Yeah. So it turned deadly. This is the one where, you know, again, this isn't very... They say he was shot out of the sky by the UFO that then reached Mach 10 and took off. Right.

So it got to the point where a span of, you know, 1976 to 2012, where you're talking about these encounters with UFOs in the Iranian Guard, Air Force, what you want to call them, and eventually it ends up turning deadly. Like you said, in 2012, one of them is inexplicably shot out of the sky. Is it from the UFO? Was there a malfunction? We don't really know. But what we do know is there's witnesses that this did happen.

And then this, you know, unidentified flying object, this, you know, unidentified aerial phenomenon, on the UAP, like we call it, took off after that. And, you know, the kind of the signature move of any UFO that people report, which is, goes from slow to super fast in the blink of an eye. And that's what it did. Yeah, they thought that it was shot by a laser. Both of the crewmen were killed on the plane immediately instantly. And again, armament systems would not lock onto the UFO.

They tried rebooting. Nothing worked. The UFO then reached Mach 10. Jets can only go Mach 2, which is 1,000 miles an hour. Right. 10 is like 7,600 miles an hour. And it's 10 times the speed of sound. Gosh.

We did have a NASA experimental aircraft that went 9.68 miles per hour, 1,000 miles per hour. And then there's light speed, of course. So again. Ridiculous speed. The question is, and this is the question that we always ask when we talk about these stories, if it's not United States, if it's not China, if it's not Russia. They thought it was military spy planes from the U.S. or drones. Right. But we don't have anything like that. But these go Mach 10 and then all of a sudden

they go to zero airspeed and then accelerate to Mach 10 immediately. It's like, hello. It's impossible. So if it's not us, then who is it? And three separate occasions. Right. Jams everything. Same type of thing. And that's what I always found fascinating about this congressional report that came out. And this is something that we said back in the first episode, Karen, which is that only went back to 2004. don't talk about that stuff from 1976 or from the 1980s with Rendlesham Forest or anything like that. Or even the Japanese airliner that we just talked about, the cargo plane. You're talking about stuff that was not covered in these congressional briefings

that came out declassifying a lot of these UFO records. So you can attribute anything you want, any type of modern-day site. And if you want, contribute this one because it was 2012 and say, well, this was obviously some type of secret technology we had. Fine, go ahead and say that. It's 2012. Who knows what we have. But you can't tell me that we had that same exact technology in 1976. Yeah, like keep it in the

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In 2006, November 7th. Yes, story number three. This is really something. Five years after 9-11, Stephen, so you're thinking, okay, well, the government's going to want to investigate this strange thing in the sky. It was seen over Chicago O'Hare International Airport, one of the biggest in the country, one of the busiest. And this is the reaction. There was a disc flying outside above Charlie 17, and he thought I was pretty much high. But I'm not high, and I'm not drinking.

Someone actually has a picture of it, so if you guys see it out there, a disc, like a frisbee? Like a UFO type thing. Like a frisbee? And, I mean, it's so condescending the way some of these controllers were talking. There's a photo of it, and a group of people saw it. And you have some of these other controllers like, oh, are you drinking? And, you know, some of these pilots, oh, you're so crazy. What are you talking about?

And this is the kind of stigma that we need to, quite honestly, I don't mean to get preachy, but it's the kind of stigma that we need to get away from. Yeah. If you keep talking about, oh, it's little green men, ha, ha, ha, ha. that we're never going to get to the bottom of what's really happening here and has been happening for quite frankly centuries. Oh, yeah. I mean, a long time, the government investigation only goes back to 2004. We're looking at stuff, you know, way before that as well, as you can tell.

But this was November 7, 2006, and it was spotted over Gate C-17, United Airlines, Gate C-17 at O'Hare Airport. It was seen by airline pilots, supervisors, and mechanics. A disc-shaped UFO hovering over the gate, and they were joking about it. They're not going to flying disk up, and we can't see it. Come on, too. So there you go. You guys been celebrating the holidays, right? So there you go.

I mean, basically belittles her. You know, she's just doing her job saying, listen, this is what they're seeing. She's laughing kind of like nervously. Right. I mean, that's the kind of laugh, but it's, okay, this is awkward. There's a photo, and it's up at our blog, by the way, on 850WFTL. a UAP podcast blog, but even the media were joking about it. There's this story you may have already heard about.

The United Airlines employees who swear it was something otherworldly in the skies above Chicago's O'Hare Airport on November 7. Several airport workers, some of them have talked to the Chicago Tribune, who said they saw a saucer-shaped UFO. They saw one, a UFO. They say it hovered over a terminal without lies before shooting straight up right through the clouds last fall. Yeah. So again, this is the way things were covered. And, you know, now it's a little bit more serious. Even recently, if you watch things like, you know, Good Morning America or the Today Show. Tucker Carlson is all in on it. Yeah, that's true, too. I mean, and so the mainstream media has been covering these things more seriously now.

And whether that's just a shift in focus, whether that's just because, okay, maybe we should pay attention to it. It's not because the government came out and said there are UFOs, but we don't know what they are if they're alien or they're just unidentified. And that's the main thing, too, you know? And you talk about a. siding over O'Hare Airport around Thanksgiving time. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the busiest airports in the world as it is. And now you're talking about one of the busiest travel times of the year. And a lot of people saw this and they have radar proof.

Yeah, well, they were telling other planes to look out for it. Somebody reported a UFO or a flying disc above Charlie Tankler, seriously. Excellent. Yeah. So nobody can see it. But use caution. All right. That's pretty much it.

He sounds like Mr. Pink and Reservoir dogs. Yeah, wait, 5668? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, look out your window. Do you see anything above United's Concourse? They actually, believe it or not, they called us and said there's a, somebody observed a flying disk about a thousand feet above the state Charlie 17. You see anything over there? Not that I can tell.

Okay. Yeah, I thought my job was stressful. So, at the time the FAA claimed the witnesses might have been confused by a weather phenomenon for the flying saucer. Swamp gas. But we have rarely heard audio from the FAA airport radio communications from that day that might shed some light on this. And it comes from the mechanics who saw it. There was a group of them, and they took a picture. We saw it a half hour ago.

Who saw it? All bunch of us over at the Charlie's got close. Really? Yes, who's this? So they saw something. And, I mean, if they're saying maybe it was a balloon, it's probably them just trying to do. Just listen and make sense of it? So they don't get fired.

The U.S. military did investigate and the FAA issued a statement, basically saying nothing to see here, nothing unusual was detected on radar. No strange objects in the sky, but the mechanics saw it and took a photo. So take a look at it at the website. We saw it a half hour ago. Who saw it? All bunch of us. So there you go.

I mean, they're saying they saw it and we'll have, like Karen said, we'll have the photo up, 850WFTL.com. It's kind of blurry. That's all right. It's on the UIP blog, along with everything else that we spoke about today, so you can see exactly what we've been talking about. And what's interesting about that, Chicago A Hair story as well, and this was something that kind of went under, no pun intended, went under the radar. You didn't. I did. A lot of the records. It was a blip. Yes. A lot of the records from that day were actually taken. You know, because you had different air traffic controllers who came out and spoke at some of these conferences

that we're talking about was taking place in Phoenix. Some of these conferences, the air traffic controller, who came out and said, yeah, we saw it. We saw it on the radar, and we had the records, and some people came and took it away. In black suits? Yeah, exactly, which also happened on the Nimitz, which is now a known fact when, you know, in 2014, when that happens, where they saw the UFO, the Navy did, and off of the coast of San Diego there. Well, there's now UAPs, right? Right, UAPs, which is why we call the podcast UAP. But it doesn't mean unidentified aerial phenomenon.

It means unidentified alien podcast. That is the difference. Just so you knew. And next week we're going to talk about... Yeah, this is crazy. But also, just to wrap up with Chicago, too, in some of these pilot sightings, that's why we wanted to start off season two with these stories. Because I think, anyway, that when you can get a credible witness to talk about

these things. It kind of opens people's eyes. Skeptics, you might say, oh, well, that's just some, you know, like you said, some dairy farmer out in the middle of Kansas or whatever, not paying attention. No, these are people and not to put down dairy farmers in Kansas. As an example, that's how people think about, you know, people who see UFOs, oh, just some farmer or whatever.

The cattle mutilization. Yeah. We're talking about people who, this was their life. This is their, they're in the air more than they're on the ground. And they're the ones who are saying, yeah, We saw something that we can't explain. So just think about that.

Don't laugh at them. No. Let them say their piece because there's something to be figured out here. We don't know what it is, which is why we do this show. And we'll do it again next week because, Karen, I have something very special for you. This is so cool. So this is not, I will be the first to say a disclaimer here, okay, for episode 12 next time. It gets a little conspiratorial.

Oh, please. I know. It all is conspiratorial. At least, you know, with some of the previous episodes we've done, we have, you know, audio, we have real instances, we have reports, we have radar proof, whatever it might be, that we can point to to say, look, this really happened. You figure out what it is because one way or another, something happened here. Well, the Dolce-Gabana Air Force Base doesn't have much. Well, it has Philip Schneider. And now he's dead, but that makes here nor here.

But yeah, that's probably the most conspiratorial episode we've done so far was the Dulce base. Until next time, which is Stargates and Iraq and other parts of the world. Because apparently, Karen, there has been some chatter that we saw some things inadvertently on a satellite. And we ended up investigating some of these things and then some fights ensued. Maybe having to do with the Iraq war. We don't know. So it was in Iraq. The cradle of civilization.

By the way, they're replacing the Hubble Telescope with the web. It's going up soon from Florida. So maybe we'll see some life on other planets. But, yeah, it's interesting because in Iraq, there's the movie that came out, Deliverous from Evil, and some American soldiers in Iraq went into a cave, and they saw this writing on the wall, whatever, and one of them became possessed and then came back to the United States and was possessed with the spirit.

Yeah, it's pretty wild movies. There's all kinds of stuff going on in Iraq. That's where Adam and Eve are buried. That's right. We know exactly what their graves are, too. You know how they know it's Adam and Eve? How? No belly buttons.

Oh, wow. Look at that. No, I wouldn't say it. I know, look, there's been different movies and shows about Stargate. There was an actual movie show called Stargate, so I get it. This isn't new, but what we're going to do is present to you some things that you may have not heard before the background of all these things of how it came about. And I actually have secondhand account of some stories about the Stargates in the Middle East. What is a Stargate?

So essentially it's basically like a portal, really. Like a wormhole? Kind of. Yeah, you go from point A to point B. Okay. So there's a lot to get into with that and we'll save it all for next week. Do you need a vaccine passport or are you good? We're not sure.

Okay. All right. So until next time on your P, make sure you download and subscribe all the previous episodes. If you've missed any, you can search them on Apple. Give us five extraterrestrial stars. Yes, please. And Spotify, anywhere you get your podcast. And, of course, as always, 850 WFTL.com,

where you can hear the show as well locally here in West Palm Beach. But you can also stream in any time you want on the website. Any of the episodes you missed, you can find them there too. UFOs are real. So until next time, Karen Curtis there. Stephen Deener here on the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Talk to you again on episode 12. Thanks for listening.

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