UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Greatest Hits: "The Age of Disclosure" with Jeff Nuccetelli

Episode Date: November 16, 2025

"The Age of Disclosure" is the new highly anticipated documentary featuring all of the big names in ufology that is said to be full of explosive interviews. Stephen Diener speaks with one of those people, Jeff Nuccetelli, who was interviewed as part of this new feature film. Jeff is a first hand experiencer, and recent Congressional witness on UFOs. He gives us an exclusive first hand look at this movie that some are saying will be the next big paradigm shift within the UAP topic...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This was my interview with Jeff Nusatelli back towards the beginning of the year in spring back in March. so around eight months ago. And it was right after they premiered a guest of rough draft, you could say, of the movie at the film festival in Austin. That's when we found out that Jeff was going to be in this movie. And then as time goes on, Jeff ends up becoming a pretty substantial name even more so than he was when this movie was made because he ends up being a congressional witness at the UAP hearings this past. September. So a lot happened with Jeff Newsatelli and during the anticipation of this film over the past eight months. And now that age of disclosure is finally going to come out here on November 21st, I thought now might be a good time to revisit this interview from about eight months ago with myself

and Jeff Newsotelli as he gave us a firsthand exclusive look on what we should expect from this film. And we got into some other topics of the day as well, which I think will be pretty cool to hear again and resurface eight months later and see what else we can connect it to that's going on now. So take a look back here, listen back to myself with Jeff Nusateli as we got a first look at the finally emerging film of Age of Disclosure right here on UAP. Enjoy. Hi, welcome back into UAP.

Stephen Dean are back with you here. always on the Unidentified Alien Podcast episode 119. Coming off a wild week last week with Representative Scott Burleson and Chris Bloodsoe, both on the show last week. And I needed to take a couple of days after that to kind of get my thoughts together, get all the subjects together, and figure out what is next to here on UAP. And the answer was clear to me. And that is to talk about this upcoming new film documentary, The Age of... Disclosure. If you're not familiar with this, well, you're going to hear from Jeff Nusatelli, who's able to talk about it with us because he was in the movie. And so here's a

quick background, okay, if you're not up to speed on all this. First off, Jeff Nusateli is Air Force veteran and an experiencer himself, which is why he was in the movie Age of Disclosure. And he was actually a guest on the show here on UAP, not too long ago, maybe about a month or two ago, and he came on to talk about his famous sighting of the Red Cube over Van derbyrg Air Force Base back in 2003. It's been spoken about in different platforms. I know James Fox spoke about that on Joe Rogan at one point. So that story is out there. But we went deeper than that when Jeff was on the show with me. He also spoke about his own orb encounter that happened over his home a couple of years after the Red Cube incident. And this was in 2005 where this, you know,

brilliantly bright orb came within about 150 feet of him coming down from the sky and then zoomed off and that remains unexplained 20 years later. So he was asked to be a part of this documentary called Age of Disclosure. And if you haven't heard of it, there's been a lot of talk about it. There's been a lot of hype around it and excitement from a lot of people in the UFO community. It's produced by or actually directed by formerly a producer named Dan Farrah. And he's worked on a lot of major motion pictures, probably most notably he was the producer on Ready Player 1, which was directed by Steven Spielberg a few years back. So this is his directorial debut.

And he tackled the issue of disclosure, hence the name Age of Disclosure. And in the documentary, he has some pretty heavy hitters, Jay Stratton and Gary Nolan and Tim Burchett and, you know, how put off is in this. just a lot of giant names, Ryan Graves, David Fravor, a lot of really big names in the UFO community all came together, probably the biggest collection of UFO names in one setting,

and it's happening in this documentary, The Age of Disclosure. So it premiered to a studio audience or a theater audience over the weekend at the SXSW Festival in Austin, Texas. And in attendance at this festival to see the premiere,

was Jeff Nusatelli because for two reasons, one, he's invited and two, he's in the documentary. He was part of the witnesses, the firsthand witnesses that were interviewed for as a part of this documentary for Age of Disclosure. So, and what was funny about this, and you hear Jeff and I talk about it is he had to keep this very close to the vest so much. So he's like I said on the show a couple months ago and this never came up because he couldn't tell anybody about it. So he and I spoke yesterday, I said, hey, we'd love to have you on to talk about the film, your role in it and what you thought about it, what are people going to make of it, and give really an exclusive behind the scenes first look at this documentary that has not been released yet, and there is no

date set on whether it's going to be streaming or in theaters, it's still kind of in waiting on when this film is going to come out and where and when and how. But in the meantime, Jeff was kind enough to take some time here today to come on UAP with me for you to talk about this new documentary that has a lot of people excited called Age of Disclosure. So you hear Jeff and I talk about that here giving that inside look. What can we expect from it? What will people be surprised about? And really just his overall impression and what he was able to say when he was interviewed to be part of this documentary. What are people going to take away from his testimonial in it? So a lot of great stuff here that is pretty, I guess, pretty,

exclusive right now, so I'll get to the interview now. Myself and Jeff Nusatelli and then stick around right after just for a couple minutes, a couple of other news and notes before we're done here today on episode 119. But for now, here is myself with Jeff Nusateli. An inside exclusive look at the highly anticipated documentary Age of Disclosure right here on UAP. Enjoy. Really cool to welcome back Jeff Nusateli here to the show.

Jeff, thanks so much for coming back on here to UAP. and I'm really looking forward to talking to you today because this is like an exclusive first look at the age of disclosure. Everybody's talking about this movie. I just found out that you're in it and you were at the premiere, so we're going to talk about that and a few other things.

So thanks for coming back here to you AP, Jeff. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you for having me. Yeah, and it's funny. I'll start there just on the surprise because before we came on, and I always used the cliche, pull the curtain back a little bit, before we just came on here, I asked you, I didn't even know that you were in the movie.

And I had you on the show, what, like last month, a couple months ago. So you were holding that close to your vest. Like, that just got out within the past couple days. That's Dan Farah asked you to be in Age of Disclosure. And you were interviewed along with everybody else. So first off, what was that like being a part of the process and how hard was it for you to keep this a secret the entire time? Yeah, it was tough. Yeah, that started.

I got involved with Dan well over a year ago. Not long after I spoke with Arrow in Congress, and in my case kind of came up in the congressional hearing in 2023, and I got in contact with Dan. And yeah, we met and talked and got along really great. He's a great, he's a really just down-to-earth, like, cool guy. He's just a cool human being. And yeah, he invited me to be part of the documentary.

And yeah, we had to keep it. He did this whole project over two years in secret. Wow. And so he was a very difficult endeavor to pull off. So he had to really work hard to keep everything kind of in the dark and make this amazing movie like, you know, in secret. So he pulled it off. But yeah, it was tough to keep quiet about it because I wanted to talk about the Bannerberg case and get it out to the public and walk that tightrope about keeping some of the work I'm doing privately in the background, private, and then putting information about the Bannerberg events out.

So it's been an interesting journey, man. Yeah, for sure. And so were you able to do that in this documentary? were able to really go in depth with the Van derbyrg incident of you know the famous red cube um that was seen there it you know not in in a lot of detail because there's so much in the movie so much ground is covered it's it's kind of staggering um but the way the film is laid out it's done in a very um easy to to follow format is sort of like laid out in the timeline really well and i think the film is made really for the general public to

to kind of pull back that curtain and show the general public like this is what's been really going on for 80 years behind the scenes with the government and he uh he did a good job laying out like a timeline on on how things played out. So is would you call it a because obviously this hasn't come out yet. I know I believe there's still correct me for wrong

but they're looking for a distributor to get this out? Yeah, I think the way Hollywood kind of works is, you know, you put the film together, and then you do the premiere, and the premiere is for the big companies, the big distribution companies and film companies to view the film and decide if they want to buy it. And then they'll put it out in theaters and distribute it. So I think that's what's happening now. Right. people the big film studios will watch the film and and then be like oh we want to we want to

purchase that and put it out so i'm not sure about all the details i've been getting a lot of questions about when is it going to come out you know in theaters when is it going to be streaming or shown in europe and i i don't really have any information right okay so the bottom line is is that you know he was finally able to get it out there show people and now that's kind of like putting the feelers out saying okay here it is now who who wants to to help me get this out there. And hopefully that happens, you know, very soon in a big way. So would you say that this is something for, like you said, the general public?

So I'm glad you said that. So do you think it's fair to say that this is kind of like a crash course for people who maybe just hear about this subject in the background, but haven't been able to really dig in and learn what's been going on? Is it really more for that crowd? like you said, the general public. Yeah, it definitely geared more towards the general public. People that are deep into the UFO lore and following this topic closely,

there might be some surprises for them, but they're going to be aware of a lot of the information. Yeah, my opinion, this is really to pull back the curtain for ordinary folks that aren't following a topic. Like, for example, coming back from the Premier, in the Uber, we started talking to the Uber driver that my girlfriend and I were, he was asking why we were all dressed up. And we told him about the movie. And he was all excited. He's like, oh, I love UFO movies and this and that and who's in it. And the more we talked about it, it kind of

sunk in. And he's like, oh, wait, you guys, you mean this is real? Like a documentary? And we're like, yeah, this is real. And we start telling him, like, there's government officials, there's, you know, congressmen and senators involved in this and a guy was kind of just blown away he hadn't even he didn't know anything about the two congressional hearings wow he didn't know anything about the legislation he didn't know any like he had like no awareness of any of the real world world stuff going on with the the phenomenon and uh and then this guy was like oh my god i i didn't know about any of this i can't wait, you know, to watch it. And I think that's exactly what this movie's intended to do. You know, these are ordinary people that, you know, they're just outliving their lives, paying the bills,

taking care of their family, and they just have no idea that there were no, that there were congressional hearings or legislation or secret crash recovery programs or just the general public is completely unaware of this. And that's what the movie, I think, is intended to do. Dan wants to put pressure on Congress to act. And the best way to put pressure on Congress is to get the American people engaged and involved. And that's what the film, I think, is really going to do. It's really going to make an impact where ordinary people that don't know anything about it are going to get their eyes forced open. And hopefully they'll start picking up the phone and calling Congress.

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they're jaded. and they want that ultimate bombshell, right? They're waiting for that moment. And anytime something new comes out, they think, okay, maybe this is going to be that moment. And then they hear, well, you're going to hear probably a couple new things, but this is for all the people who don't know what's been going on. So I think it's important for people when they hear that,

that's not a letdown. Like, for me, that's huge. I think that's enormous because the more, people hear about what's been going on, the more people are going to be shocked as far as, you know, think about, think back when, it's when you first heard about this, right, to anybody who's listening. Think back when, so we first got into the UFO topic and how shocked you were, how amazed you were, how intrigued you were when you first started hearing about, oh, wow, there's congressional hearings like your Uber driver, right? His eyes have been open now and he's

going to go diving deeper into this. And for the general population, the vast majority of people haven't heard about what, you know, a few thousand people on Twitter have been during about for years. You know what I mean? There's millions and millions of people who don't know what's been going on. So I think that's a major thing. Personally, in my opinion, if I can give my opinion on it, I think that's a major deal that it's going to open the door for people who aren't familiar with it. And ultimately, I believe, like what Dan's mission is, that will help to push the conversation forward. Do you think I'm off on that?

Oh, dead on target, man. That's exactly it. You figured that Uber driver is going to go home. He's going to tell his wife and his family and his friends like, oh, I met these people in a UFO documentary. And then it'll spread. And then that's really what we need. And that's sort of been my mission from the beginning is to bring credible witnesses out

to the public, military, witnesses to tell their stories and generate interest, public interest. Right. We're not trying to get people to believe anything, but, you know, we're hoping, my friends and I are hoping the more credible people to come out and tell stories, the more interest will be generated, and then more pressure will be put on Congress and the legacy media. The legacy media is not covering this topic.

When they do cover it, they don't cover it well. or they completely ignore it. So we need to generate, you know, interest in the media. And the only way to do that is to get the public interested and aware of the topic. And then the media will follow suit and then Congress will follow suit. And then hopefully we'll get to a point where we'll see, you know, I don't know what people expect really for disclosure, like what they're waiting for. because I'm of the opinion, like, disclosure's already happened. You know, it's been reported in the New York Times.

It's been talked about in the halls of Congress. We've had legislation passed on it. We've had top senators and congressmen speaking openly about it, even on a Senate floor, you know, with Chuck Schumer and Senator Rounds. And, you know, to me, like, disclosure has already happened. The government has acknowledged that there are objects flying around. what they are, or where they're from, or what they're doing. So, yeah, I'm not sure what people are, you know, who's it going to take to come out publicly

and say that they're real for the general public to be satisfied? I'm not sure, but that's what we're working toward. We're trying to get to a tipping point to where it's just completely undeniable. Yeah. And like you said, kind of building that, you know, momentum. More momentum, I think, is an important goal. like with the congressional hearings. You know, there were some people who were disappointed by the second congressional hearing, the head, Lou Elizano and Tim Galadette, who I know were both

in the film as well, right? They're both in the documentary. Um, so there were some people in the UFO community who said, well, this is a nothing burger. We didn't learn anything new. But again, I think the main point is to continue to move that needle, continue to move the public interest and get people who haven't heard about it as interested as you are. So that way, you know, Two more people get interested than four more people get interested, and you kind of have that snowball effect. So hopefully, you know, Dan is able to find that right distributor, whether it's in theaters or streaming, and this is able to come out to the masses. And if and when that happens, Jeff, what do you think people, the general public or even people, I'll ask it this way, people who are entrenched

in the conversation and the general public, what will each segment of the conversation take away from this documentary when they get to see it. That's a good question. I think they'll get a clear and concise idea of the state that we're in now. They'll get a historical perspective from the film going back to the, you know, about 80 years, back to the 40s. And then the film kind of walks you on a timeline from that point, like how did this all start, at least in the modern era?

like from 47, and how has it progressed forward in time? And where are we now? And the film really does a good job of laying out that timeline. And where are we now? We're in a state where we've had legislation proposed. Some of it passed. We're in a state where we've got people at the highest levels of government, openly coming out, putting their careers and reputations on the line to say that, yeah, this

phenomenon is absolutely true. The government has been involved with studying it for 80 years or more. That non-human intelligence is a fact and not a speculation. It just is simply a fact. And laying all that timeline out in a coherent manner will, I think, get the public engaged and be like, what the hell is going on? Like, what do you mean non-human intelligence? What do you mean we've been interacting with non-human intelligence for 80 plus years?

And I really think, you know, people that are completely unaware of this topic, they're going to have their hair blown back with the level of the people that are in the film and what they're willing to say openly. Speaking of which, actually, I'm glad you said that because some of the people in here Jay Stratton, Tim Burchett, I know I think Howl put off is another one. Those are some pretty, of course, yourself, so pretty heavy hitters in this documentary. Who surprised you when you got to sit there and actually watch the premiere? When you saw them come up, you're like, oh, geez, I didn't even know they were involved with this.

And what were your impressions of the other, you know, I guess you can say cast of this documentary? when you got to see what they had to say during it. Yeah, there were a lot of people there that I didn't know who they were initially until I met them. And that is cool. I mean, they've got, they've got some, they've got people that worked on the program. In the film, they've got fighter pilots that their, their cases are not well known. Yeah, I'm not, you know, I don't know.

It's hard to kind of art. It was kind of overwhelming, man, to, to be there. Like, there was sort of the, I had that, I was a bit starstruck, you know, by, you know, because I'm standing there talking to Jay Stratton and Hal put off and Gary Nolan. And so it was a bit overwhelming, you know. And then meeting all the other people that I, I had met before and hearing some of their stories. I'm like, this is going to be cool, man. What kind of stuck with you after you saw it? You know, who's, whose testimony? What's, which story really kind of stuck with you and said, man, I, Kim, I didn't know that person experienced that or, wow, I never heard that before.

Yeah, I can't, I don't know if I can really get into the details without kind of spilling the beans. But some of the other, like, firsthand witnesses, some of the pilots and other ground personnel that had encounters, they had some really spectacular events. So there are some first-hand witnesses in this, including yourself, that can really speak to what they saw and what they experienced. Yeah, and a really good friend of mine that I was in the military, I was in the Air Force with, and he was with me at Vanderberg, and he's a firsthand witness, is in the film. And I brought him in and introduced him to Dan and some of the other people into Lou Elizondo way back when I first got involved. So he's in a film My friend Chaz My biggest question with it, Jeff, is

What do you think, just getting back to the UFO community What do you think their biggest takeaway is going to be When they see it? Just having your finger on the polls light like you do Spending time on social media, seeing what people say, what people write And kind of knowing the atmosphere as it is, what do you think the biggest takeaway from the UFO community is going to be?

I think there'll be some validation on speculations that the community has put out. There'll be some information that comes out that the community can really grab onto and start investigating deeper. There's some treasure there. So I don't know if there's going to be like one general overall takeaway. I think individually people will find little nuggets of gold and be like, oh my God, that's a whole. like inquiry I can do like a whole field of research on that one piece of information

that's been dropped because we you will get some new information about other politicians and presidents and things that have been briefed or been involved so there's a lot of good investigative avenues for the community to to grab onto it it dig further into but the overall take for the community is going to be like, I think, like, yeah, we know. We've been looking into this and talking about this for years and years. So I don't know how the film is really going to impact people that are deep into this topic that they really follow it, you know, deeply. There might not be a lot of huge, shocking revelations for them, but there might be some. There were definitely some for me. Right. But I'm pretty pretty.

deep into the topic. So there'll be some good information, and then the overall takeaway is, it's like, yeah, this is real. Like there is a non-human intelligence or several non-human intelligences interacting with human. So that really, that sense of validation is, and that's a big thing. There's something that you said there at the end, and it kind of covers something that's always intrigued me.

And I think of Paul Hellier, the former Canadian. minister of defense or defense minister, where he spoke about a lot, the different types of NHI that's, or on Earth or have interacted with humans, and they talk about, you know, all the different types and the different species. I know Dr. Stephen Greer has spoken about, you know, all these different types of species and

everything. And that's a big question people always have, you know, how many, right? We hear about difference, you know, whether it's reptilians or palladians, whoever it might be. where do you stand on that Jeff? What have you come across and you know as far as information on the types of species that have interacted with humans and what do you

think makes sense you know kind of coming back to what what you heard? Yeah it's like what what about this topic does make sense like God almost nothing but yeah they definitely do

it's covered in the film there are some people that explicitly state that there are X number of species that they're aware of, that the government is aware of. And for me, that's always been a big question, you know, like when I had my encounter, you know, you never stopped wondering, like, what is it? Like, who is it?

Like, why is it here? So for me, it was actually, even after my encounter, it was hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that there are other non-human species like interacting with us even after I saw the thing um so yeah that's for me that's a huge it's a huge thing like I'd like to know what the NIH are where they're from what they're doing yeah and that's that's always been I mean a massive question and that's something that's been spoken about I think more deeply recently um as far as you know what type of beings are we talking about? Are we talking about interdimensional? Are we talking about beings from another planet? It's another

part of the galaxy. Are we talking about, you know, some type of species that has existed on Earth before, before us and comes out from under the ground? You know, different things like this. Or are we talking about something in the spiritual realm? So is all that, is that kind of covered in that way during the documentary, Jeff? Do they, do they kind of cover A to Z the different options and different theories about what NIH are or is it's does it not go that that deep into things it is covered but it's not the focus shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e-commerce in the u.s from household names like death wish coffee brook linen and kiley but what if people haven't heard about your brand well shopify helps you find your customers with easy to run email

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Is it a mix of both? It's not exclusive. The reason I ask is because from what I've heard, that is something that, that's a conversation that takes place on the government end. So is that something that's, you know, he has alluded to, maybe not in the film, but just in the past that you know about or anybody else in that realm of government work like a Jay Straten, that, that is something that is brought up a lot. Yeah. As far as Jay specifically, I haven't, I don't remember him speaking anything. directly about the spiritual aspect of it. He did talk about non-human intelligence and things like that.

But in general, almost every time I engage with other people in the community, this topic comes up preeminently. At some point, whether I was at Seoul or at the premiere or just having meetings with these other people involved, the spiritual aspect comes out, comes up almost every time. And it becomes the focus a lot of times of the conversation. So I believe that it's, they're deeply interwound. I think that somehow this is all interrelated. I'm not sure exactly how, but the spiritual aspect is preeminent in a lot of the conversations that I have with people in the in a community.

Why do you think that is? I mean, why do you think that is, Jeff? Because I think some people, some, not all, because I know a lot of people take it seriously, but I think some people might hear that and kind of roll their eyes a little bit and be like, ah, you know, here we go again with this. But it is taken seriously. So, I mean, do you feel like we're, you know, we're over the mark when we talk about

it in that aspect? And that's why they take it seriously? Or are they just look at it as, hey, this is just another option like anything else? I think it's taken seriously. because it is part of the phenomenon. It's all interrelated. And behind the scenes, the government and all the entities that make up the government, they're involved in this topic, or deeply interested in the spiritual side of it.

So, yeah, it's all somehow interrelated. And it comes up in the community because, experiences have paranormal experiences. You know, it's a pattern. So the whole thing about the entire phenomenon is pattern recognition, like trying to figure out, like, what are the patterns of what's happening? And it makes it very difficult because there's a randomness involved in the UFO phenomenon. on. But there's also this strange paranormal aspect to it. Like a lot of people, when you talk to them that are involved or they have experienced it, they have after their encounter or leading up to it,

they have paranormal type activity. They're having strange dreams, precognitive dreams. They're seeing ghosts. They're seeing orbs. They're receiving what they call downloads, where they're getting information. They don't know where this information comes from. It's outside of their expertise or education. So when you really get down into the UFO topic, you can't avoid the spiritual, religious, or magical aspects of it. Because there is some kind of connection. And a lot of these people have talked about the hitchhiker effect.

You know, I've spoken to probably half a dozen people in the last half a year that I've met, that eventually when they get comfortable with me, they say, hey, can I tell you, I'm going to tell you about a really, really weird thing. And then it'll be something like a paranormal experience. Sometimes they say, I think this thing was a demon that came to me at night, or it was an angel that I saw. So there's really no avoiding it. The spiritual aspect is somehow interrelated with the UFO phenomenon.

On that note, and just to kind of go off a little bit from the film and on this topic, there's a story, and Dave Grush has spoken on this before when it comes to the Magenta UFO crash back in the 1930s in Italy. And it said that, and I was kind of throwing this out. you. So if it's not like an area of expertise, that's totally fine. But, you know, it said that's Mussolini was in cooperation with the Vatican to basically hide this, along with the U.S. government, to basically cover up this UFO crash back in the 1930s. So, I mean, if spirituality is a part of this, do you think that's why it was covered up? Why the cover up, I guess,

and why is the Vatican involved with Mussolini in order to have a, you know, a mutual benefit to cover up a UFO crash? You know, it's complicated. But on the surface, it would be covered up to control the population. Right. So let's take the new information that's coming out from the Skywatcher team and Jake Barbara. Right.

They're talking about that human beings can interact directly, mentally, psychically with these objects, these beings, or whatever. So you have to wonder, is that only select human beings that can do that? Or is it all human beings? And I would default and say it would be all human beings have the ability to do that. And if that is true, which it very well could be true, handing over that kind of power to humanity could have effects that we can't we just can't imagine right and i've brought this up in in other conversations

like what happens if thousands of people start to interact with these objects all at the same time are summoning thousands of NIH uh what are they what is their intent you know um so i think if they if that story is true where the Vatican recovered the crash in Magenta, and then they worked with Mussolini, and after the war, they passed on the tech to the U.S., you know, it could be, they covered it up just because it's so crazy and bizarre. Like, we've found the UFO, and we don't know how to handle it. We don't know what it is, so just bury it until we can get more information.

It could be as simple as that. or it could be something like knowledge of this phenomenon could unlock potentials in the human race that governments can't control. So it could be a control mechanism. Yeah, absolutely. You know, when it comes to free energy and things like that and just an overall knowledge or technology, those are all, it all makes sense to me. home now just to kind of finish up on the movie end and before I get you out of here Jeff the you mentioned something at the beginning that's kind of stuck in my head about how the movie was made in secrecy I mean how Dan Farrah had to make this movie behind the scenes no one knew it was

happening and took him two years to put together this documentary get everybody in have everybody keep this secret like I said you were on with me a couple months ago and this never came up because you had to keep it secret and so I just I just learned literally today that that you're in the movie. So why the secrecy, though, when it comes to what Dan was doing, is it just because he didn't want to have that, I guess, any stonewalling efforts from people behind the scenes? And if that's the case, is there a concern that studios may have that effect,

that someone might get out to studios and say, you better not put this film out? Yeah, I think the secrecy is because, part of it's like trade secrets in the industry, right? Like if you're a reporter and you've got a good scoop, you've got to keep your sources and you've got to keep the data close to your chest. Otherwise another reporter is going to get it and publish the story. So, you know, he just wanted to keep everything under wraps until he could put it all together

and bring it out. Do you think there's a concern there, though? I mean, I don't know how concerned you are, how concerned he is. if anybody spoke about it while you guys were at the film festival about, hey, you know, we really hope this doesn't get blackballed by studios because they got people chirping in their ear that, you know, if you know it's good for you, you won't put this out type thing. I mean, you think that's a concern? That definitely could be a concern because some of the people in the film have been,

their lives have been threatened, like for real, for real. So, yeah, I think that was a major concern in keeping some of the other witnesses protected in that manner, you know, because some of them have are still in the government, some of them still have their clearances. Some of them, you know, could very well be in danger for coming out publicly. So, yeah, that was definitely a concern. You know, there's a safety concern, a concern that they might try to shut the movie down or derail it, you know.

So, yeah, that is probably the primary concern. Yeah, understandable for sure. So I'll get you out of here on this, Jeff. And when it comes to your own testimony in the documentary, what are you hoping people take away from what you had to say in what was shown? I know the editing process is tough. They got to fit in like, you know, 30,000 interviews and clips and cuts. So what do you, from what made it into the documentary,

what are you hoping people take away from what you had to say in it? I hope that people, not only my testimony, my friend Chad, but the other direct witnesses. The cases are not covered in detail because it just, that's not, that wasn't the intent of the movie to go into like individual cases in detail. So they're pretty relatively short

like synopsuses of the event. But I hope what happens is people get that little teaser and are like, what happened at Vanderburt? This other pilot, what happened with Bob Jacobs, what happened? And I'm really. hoping that after the public views the film, whatever fascinates them, they grab it and go and start to research and then to learn more about all the events in Vanderberg and all these other military

cases all over the world. I think that that'll be the outcome. Right. Build the curiosity. Curiosity turns into knowledge. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that's great. And I can't wait to see it. I can't wait for it to come out so everyone else can see it. And I hope we can keep in touch throughout it because You know, as we said last time, we're really just starting the ramp up here as things continue to build and develop in the disclosure movements with now with this documentary, The Age of Disclosure. So Jeff Nusatelli, thanks again so much for coming back on here to UAP. Give us kind of like this exclusive behind the scenes look at what to expect. Really appreciate the time and the information on it. Yeah, I appreciate it, Stephen.

And after the movie's out, we'll get back together and we'll talk all about everything. And maybe I can bring my buddy Chaz on and you can talk to. to him directly. Chaz is the guy that got buzzed by the giant UFO. Him and five other people were standing there. They had this gigantic

object floating right over them while they were on duty. Wow. And they called it in and I responded and you know it's a crazy story man and there's more and more of those. So yeah as the information comes out, we'll get together.

we'll put the word out and try to generate interest and get the public aware. Absolutely. I'm 100% there with you. That's awesome, Jeff. Thank you. Yeah, we'll definitely stay together on it and get, you know, whoever is willing to come on and talk. I'm happy to do it and get the stories out there. So it's awesome.

Great. Thank you, Jeff. We'll speak to again soon here. All right, brother. Thank you again to Jeff for doing that. I love talking to the guy because he can just, he's like a chameleon in this conversation. I mean, he can just go from one. to the next, whether it's the movie or talking about, you know, the story of the magenta UFO

crash back in the 30s and how the Vatican was involved with Mussolini to cover it up, ultimately leading to the U.S. government as well. And, you know, we can switch on one thing to the next. So really just love talking to him. He's so knowledgeable. And he's got so much to say on this topic because of his own personal experiences, which you heard us talk about during the interview. So awesome time, awesome conversation. Thank you, Jeff, again, for coming back on here to talk about that. And like you heard him say, I'll absolutely have him back on.

Once this movie comes out, you know, the particulars, again, are still kind of uncertain, the when, the where, the hell. But once that does happen, of course, I'll let you know, and Jeff will come back on here, along with hopefully some other guests who were also in the movie, like we heard us talk about.

So still more to come when we talk about this, this new documentary Age of Disclosure. I mean, we're really just getting started because none of us have seen it. So once it comes out, I'm sure there's going to be a ton of reaction to what is said in there from the high profile, you know, characters, high profile of people who are in this documentary. So I just, I can't wait for that to come out so we can all see it and react in real time and then have Jeff back on after that to get even more information on it.

But I hope that was helpful and I hope that kind of helps to paint a picture of what to expect for that documentary, The Age of Disclosure. Really good stuff. And again, I can't wait to see it. outside of that though I am working in some things behind the scenes which is why I'm probably this is going to be the only new episode for this week I do want to actually get out another greatest hits episode

I do like putting those out from time to time so keep an eye out for another greatest hits episode to come out soon but I'm there's a side project and I'm not going to say too much about it yet because it's not like secretive or anything it's just it's taking up a lot of time and I don't want to give unrealistic expectations of when to expect it and what it is because things can change and dates can change

and ideas can change. But there is a side project that I'm working on that is taking up a ton of my time that I think you're going to be excited about. So I'll keep you updated on that as well as time goes on. When I have some more concrete things to tell you about it, I'll do that as well. But just know that there is a side project that I think is exciting, that I'm really just, I'll say this, I'm really enjoying putting together. It's completely different from anything else I've ever done as far as production value and the idea behind it, the formatting of this new project. So I'm just working hard on it and I'm looking forward to telling you more about it once more of it comes together. So some things happening there.

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