UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Greatest Hits: The Edgar Cayce Experience part 2

Episode Date: March 22, 2025

You might feel like you are listening to an episode that was recorded today when taking a look back during this latest installment of UAP's greatest hits. Listen as Stephen Diener discusses Edgar Cayce and two very timely predictions from him and a different prophet. You may also be surprised to hear how Edgar's hometown is famous for one of the most terrifying alien invasion stories ever!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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psychic viewer, remote viewer, profit Edgar Casey. And I've said before in different interviews or in different episodes that, The Edgar Casey's story is really one of the things that got me into the UFO topic to begin with, going back almost 20 years. So it was really cool and rewarding for me personally. When back in 2021, I was finally able to cover Edgar Casey in a two-part series called the Edgar Casey Experience, parts one and two. And the reason I bring that up is because Edgar Casey part one, greatest hits, was a part of a greatest hits. episode, I should say, and I put out a greatest hit since episode about the Edgar Casey

Experience Part 1 last year back in April. So almost a full year later now, I'm finally able to put out Edgar Casey Experience Part 2 that originally aired back in December of 2021. I hope that makes sense, and it was a lot of dates there. But in either case, it finally felt like the right time to put out Part 2 as part of a Greatest Hits episode. And the reason why I felt like it was the right time to bring this one back out, not only because of the, you know, I enjoyed the work so much that I put into these episodes and the research that I put into it and how it came out, you know, about three and a half years ago, but also because it feels timely in that Edgar Casey is really one of the first people to come out and say that there is something buried under the ancient structures of Egypt. And that is timely because I'm sure you've heard over the past few days about this, new findings, supposedly findings of these megastructures underneath the pyramids of Giza. That being said, I am going to dig into that subject next week. I do plan on doing a full episode, kind of old-school UAP.

It's just going to be me. I'm going to dig into that subject and really present the details on that and what's been going on over the past few days when it comes to the supposed megastructures found underneath the pyramids of Giza. So look forward to that coming up during the week next week. Or should say the week coming up, I guess, however you want to quantify that. I'm also going to be looking into some weird things I'm going on off the coast of my state here in Florida and try to connect all of this. So without getting too far into the future, which I guess is what Edgar Casey did, that's how it's all going to connect here and why I'm putting out this greatest hits episode right now and making this Edgar Casey experience part two a greatest hits episode.

because he did look into those things that might be buried underneath the ancient structures of Egypt. And in part one of the Egregacy experience, we covered that where he said that there is these ancient Atlantean secrets buried under the Sphinx in Egypt. Now, in this part two of the Egregacy experience, you're getting here myself and Karen Curtis, or old friend Karen, because again, this aired back in December of 2021 when Karen and I were doing the show together. And we go more into Edgar case and we go into what something that's strange, very strange that happened. It's a very underreported alien encounter, like face-to-face alien encounter that took place in his hometown in Kentucky back in the 50s, I believe. But you're going to hear that story during this episode.

You're also going to hear something that I think is very timely as well, which is the prophecy of the popes. And it's funny to hear, maybe not funny but ironic as the episode starts out, you're going to hear me talk about Pope Francis being sick. Again, this was in December of 2021. Obviously, that also translates to now of March of 2025 and what the prophecy of the popes mean. So you're going to hear that again, very timely. It's kind of weird how the synchronicities kind of came back around here almost four years later when it came to Edgar Casey and his visions of Egypt and the prophecy of the popes and Pope Francis being sick. So this kind of felt like fate to bring this one back out now.

I've been waiting for the right time to bring this out in a greatest hits episode. And right now it feels like the perfect timing with all these things going on. So you're going to hear that. And a lot more, actually, some things I even forgot that were in this episode, all part of UAP's greatest hits for Edgar Casey. The Edgar Casey Experience, Part 2. And can't wait to come back again. This upcoming week, like I said, digging in more into the current topic of what might be buried

underneath the pyramids of Giza and some other wild things going on, some sightings off the coast. here, Florida, and elsewhere. Oh, and just a little disclaimer as well. You might hear in this episode, Karen and I refer to something we had called the UAP blog. That doesn't exist anymore. So if you try to go to the UAP blog

and some of the pictures and videos that we say you can refer back to, those really aren't there anymore. So if you hear us say that, just know that part is kind of dated, but I just wanted to put that out there. I don't even know if we say it, but just in case, I wanted to let you know.

But without further ado, enjoy this look back and notice how it all kind of loops around to current day with this greatest hits episode. The Edgar Casey Experience, part two, right here on UAP. Enjoy. Welcome to UAP, episode 24. I'm Stephen Deiner over there is Karen Curtis, right here on the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Karen, I'm very excited today because we get to conclude on our Edgar Casey experience.

Today is part two. Are you ready for this? Yeah, I foresaw that we would be doing this. Oh, look at that. So if you didn't listen to part one, don't fear. It's all there on Apple and Spotify and on 850 WFTL.com. And it was a really good feedback on that one. Yes.

A lot of great, I guess you could say, listening and what's the where I'm looking for? Consuming. Consuming, yes, on that part one. So we appreciate all of you. So hopefully you enjoy part two as well because Edgar Casey was such a fascinating person. We go over kind of like his beginnings in part one. So if you want to catch that, by all means, you can catch up there in part one. But, you know, one thing we didn't mention, Karen, before we get into our factoid and to the meat of part two today,

one, one that we didn't really dive into in part one, where some of the prophecies that he did get right. It's kind of interesting because many people believe that he was a better soothsayer than, say, Nostradamus. Right. I mean, he definitely was a modern-day Nostradamus, for sure, and as well as a healer. I mean, that's one thing that, as far as I know. And you could also travel with his mind. Right, right. Astral.

Astro projection and remote viewing before that was even a thing. And, you know, he had the reputation of being a healer, you know, finding people's ailments and how to fix them in his trans-like sleep states that he would go into and how he would also tell their futures or see prophecies of things or see the past as well. Yes, he could go anywhere. So an amazing person, you know, with Edgar Casey was and all these things are. documented in the Edgar Casey Library in Virginia. But we're going to go into some of the other stories. Edgar Casey mixed with aliens today as well. And some wild stories.

What does Edgar Casey have to do with aliens? Well, we actually... Yeah, really, we have a lot of answers on that today. But, you know, some of the prophecies he did get right, Karen, first was he actually spoke about World War II before it happened. That's right. And I wanted to throw that out there today because, again, I realized it after we were recorded in part one, I'm like, you know, we didn't really say.

when he got right. Talked about a lot of other stuff, but you're probably wondering, well, why is this guy so great? What did he get right? Well, he prophesied World War II. We're going to go down a couple rabbit holes on this one, too, by the way. Just get ready, strap yourself in. Yeah, and he also predicted the stock market crash of 1929. That's right.

And if you are a Floridian, you know all about El Nino and La Nina, which is a weather pattern during hurricane season, that kind of steers or kind of... The term is severity. Yeah, it does. It kind of tells you what, you know, are you going to have strong storms, weak storms? So that's a big deal. So those are a lot of things, or a few of the things out of a lot of things that he did foreseeing get right. He also foresaw the pole shift.

Right. It shifts like the magnetism shifts from the north to the south and back again? That's what he referred to. So we haven't quite seen that yet. But that's been talked about by some people. You're saying it's going to happen very soon. That's what they say. And, you know, there've been some people.

Remember Admiral Bird from one of our first episodes? I believe Operation High Jump was episode three. And that was when they went down to Antarctica, the U.S. military, and they encountered a lot of strange things down there. And a war with aliens. Yeah, you can go back and listen to that one, episode three. Pew, pew! But he talked about two different strange shifts in the polar activity.

And so it makes you wonder. That's all. We don't know. And the other thing was he actually prophesied the use of blood as a diagnostic. tool. That's right. Yes. That's right, which nobody could have imagined during his time when he was making these prophecies back, you know, basically in the 1910s and the 1920s. So really amazing stuff from Agri Casey. You know, you could always go back and look at Agra Casey prophecies yourself if you'd like. But those are some of the things I wanted to mention at least and get out there since we're talking

about him so much. I think we did see more about Nostradamus's prediction that he got right. We were just, you know, kind of throwing those in there. But a little factoid Karen. Okay. Yes, it's your turn. Yes, we always have a factoid before we get into a lot of the stories. And I thought this was appropriate for this episode because it has to do with prophecy, actually, this factoid. So the news came out recently that, sadly, Pope Francis, it's being said from Vatican sources that he's not in good health. Oh, no. They actually, no pun intended, foresee him not lasting more than a year at this point.

Really? I didn't even know this. Yes. So, I mean, really, they're saying he's not. I mean, it's very sad news. They're talking about Pope Francis is essentially dying. Of what? They didn't really specify.

Check his blood. Well, they, you know, he had some health problems. You remember he had the colon surgery. They had, I believe, removed half his colon recently. Oh. I know it's very gross. I'm sorry, but. No, but yeah, that might be what's going on.

So he's had a lot of issues and they're basically saying that he's dying. And, you know, again, that's sad news. But get ready for the white smoke. Right. You know, they're talking about in the Vatican. and they're already kind of getting together a papal conclave, already discussing who the next pope will be when, you know, Pope Francis passes away at some point, I guess soon,

according to the sources there. But you're the Catholic in the room, so this is a big deal. It is. It's a big deal. Anytime there's a new Pope. Again, Pope Francis is still Pope right now. But the reason why I bring this up and what has to do with prophecy, there is a saint, medieval times in the 1100s, I believe,

actually, called St. Malachi. and he was a bishop in Ireland and he had the prophecy of St. Malachi. It's a famous thing. Now, there are some people who say it was a hoax because it wasn't found until the 1500s, so there's a lot of room for interpretation, was it written in that 400-year span by somebody else

and attributed to St. Malachi because he was a famous figure in the 1100s. But there is a prophecy where it's called the prophecy of the popes. And he essentially, according to the story, prophesied each pope from St. Peter down to the present time and name them all in

like cryptic ways kind of like Nostradamus did Like Hister as Hitler Right and like his quadrines Where he would you know Name all these different things And be kind of cryptic about it Like for instance Pope John Paul

Was named not You know Pope John Paul will be Pope In you know In the 70s 80s and 90s Oh no that'd be too easy No but he talked about This Pope will be born And die during eclipses

And Pope John Paul was born And died during eclipses. Whoa. So people kind of attribute different ones to different popes. So he went down, numbered each pope up until Pope Francis. And after the, so I forget the exact number of popes. It was 112 or 21212.

But after the final pope, and this Pope Francis is the last pope on his prophecies. Really? So that means we're not having another one? Well, after that one, the prophecy ends with the end. No. What does that mean? I don't know. The end is near. It's either the end of the world.

It's the end of like modern Catholic church. Maybe things will become more corrupt or they'll stray away from the original teachings or it just means that he got tired and said the end. I don't know. Or the whole thing was a hoax. Maybe they'll get rid of the queen of England and the pope. Maybe. I don't know. I just thought it was interesting because you had this prophecy of the popes. And it kind of, you know.

if you go back and read it, you can kind of match it up with some different popes in different timelines. And then all of a sudden, after this current pope, after Pope Francis is gone, he didn't have another Pope in his prophecy. So I don't know. I guess we'll see what happens. And this is Malachi back in the 1100. That's right. Yeah. He was a bishop in Ireland.

Very, very intriguing. Huh. The end. So there's your fun fact for today. I love that. Yes. The end. But what's not the end, and we're just getting started.

It is this part two about Edgar Casey. The Edgar Casey experience, Karen. And we left off last time as we were about to get into, because we talked about a lot with his prophecies of Atlantis, his readings about Atlantis, where you can find artifacts under the Sphinx and all those different things. Yeah, Atlantis has it related to Egypt and the rise and fall of Egypt. It was very fascinating stuff.

Again, you go back and listen to part one on wherever you get your podcast or an 850WFTL.com on the UAP blog page there. Or the Akashik record. You can tap in. That's fine. But what we want to get into now is what I like to call Edgar Casey and the Little Green Men. Ooh. What does that mean?

Yeah, what does that mean? You know, you told me the town that he lived in, Hopkinsville. Hopkinsville. Yeah. I get mixed up because I ran the Boston Marathon and it starts in Hopkins. Oh, really? Massachusetts. Yeah.

Oh, that's funny. And so this is in Kentucky. That's right. Hopkinsville. That's his birthplace, right? It is, yes. And then there was a family called the Sutton's that lived there as well. That's right.

So now, Edgar Casey was born, and I believe, what, 1880s or 1890s in, like we said, Hopkinsville, Kentucky. And since then, Hopkinsville has been home to some strange things, including, of course, being the home to Edgar Casey, as well as this attack of the little green men in the 1950s. And even after that, the solar, remember when we had the solar eclipse in 2017? Yeah. Hopkinsville, Kentucky. was the place to see the solar eclipse.

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a dozen aliens attacked this farmhouse north of the town back on August 21, 195. And that's according to the people inside. who were the Sutton family themselves. They had to go to the police station. They had a big firefight with these little green men. Well, we'll let them explain. Here's the daughter of Elmer Lucky Sutton. 1995, that all Helicaluke broke loose in Hopkinsville.

It's a fantastic little story. It has lasted all these years. I heard it from the main source, and that was my father, who in the story is Lucky Sutton, or Elmer Sutton. My dad and his wife Vera had come in. They had worked with a carnival for years. And Billy Ray, which was my dad's friend at the time and his wife June, they were all together. They decided to come in for the weekend.

He wanted to come home, see his mom and, you know, his brothers and catch up and to see how things were going. And the night this occurred, they were all in the house, and there was 11 of them in the house. So as the sun is going down, Billy Ray goes outside. to get some water from the well. And he sees a saucer and as it goes across the sky, it leaves like a rainbow con trail. And then Lucky Sutton comes out because he hears him. And he sees these beings.

They're silver and they're floating. And they have weird eyes. And they both went inside. And then his mom saw it too. And that's when... Well, that was it. The fight was on. And so they started shooting.

And they had a battle from the time it started. it until about 11, 11.30 that night until they finally got a clearing where they could run to Hopkinsville and get help. They had no phone, so that was the only thing they knew to do. Apparently, the Little Beans had some sort of metal armor or armor to protect them from the bullets. By the time the night was over, you had police officers, you had reporters, you had people from Fort Campbell all out there traipsing around land trying to figure out, you know, what happened that night and they couldn't find anything. The only thing they could find with shotgun shells, of course, hosts the screens and the windows, woodwork, shot off. But, no bodies. No bodies.

Right. No, the little green men, they were like silver and their arms were floating up in the air and they were floating and weird stuff. Very strange story. Very well documented story. And it's funny because they talk about they weren't even green. No, they're silver. They were silver. But they just got dubbed the little green men by the press and everything like that once the story took.

over. So much so caring that in the Hopkinsville Museum, because that is a real place, they have a whole section dedicated to this one night back in August 21st, 1955. Well, you know, you think, oh, they just got drunk and started shooting it stuff. Who knows what happened. Well, it's funny you say that because one of the family members, I want to say was the mother, very devout Christian, like Edgar Casey, like a lot of people in that region during the time. That's right. He read the Bible once a year.

That's right, the entire thing. And which, you know, is why he probably remembered every single part of it. But she was very devout Christian, had no idea what she was seen. She couldn't understand what was happening. And they recalled that when she went to the police station, they were like, they were struck by her shock. She wasn't shocked. She didn't know what to say. She looked very frazzled.

So they saw something. Right. You know, I don't think a little old grandma there who's reading the Bible. was drinking too many bud lights you know what I mean like she saw I think it might have been moonshines yeah right so she saw hundred proof something happened and they all had like the same story right and it's been unchanged and that story was passed down through the family like you heard there you know one of the Sutton's there she was very young at the time and that was stories passed down by her father who was one of the men shooting at the aliens who apparently had on this armor which would

explain, I guess, according to the account, why there were no bodies, because if they have on this, I guess, armor or shield, force field, whatever it might have been, then these bullets aren't going to do anything. Well, that's something you brought up last week, and it kind of blew my mind about energy taking different forms in different places in the universe. And so maybe their energy, maybe they weren't wearing a bulletproof Kevlar vest, it's just that their energy couldn't be penetrated. Yeah, maybe. And we'll actually, we'll get into that here too because, and again, we bring this story up.

It might feel out of place because we're talking about Edgar Casey, but this happened in his birth town. Yeah. So it's just very strange connection there, I would think, right? Yes. And actually, you might be wondering, what did Edgar Casey have to say about aliens? Yes. Because there's a lot of prophecies and readings and things like that. So there are specifically two mentions of UFOs, UAPs, aliens in his readings.

One dates back to when he was going through a woman's incarnations. Because remember Edgar Casey was a big believer in reincarnation. Yeah. There's some, I'm not going to get into it too much. But did he believe that Jesus was Adam? He did. That kind of tracks. It's an interesting theory.

Obviously not one that is taught within the church. Adam of Adam and Ephame. Right. But he goes back through human history. We had Edgar Casey's timeline on the blog last week, and we'll keep that up there. You can take a look at that from the episode 23 blog of part one of the Eckercasey experience. And you'll see on there how he tracks through basically the creation of the universe, how we were all just balls of energy at that point. And then we started coming onto the earth and forming into these bodies now.

So it's very deep stuff, very involved things. But he deeply believed in reincarnation basically because of us. his readings and because of things that he said that he would see going into these chances. So he believed that, like you said, Jesus was actually reincarnated and it started off as Adam. And because of the original sin then came back and tried to get things right. And, you know, he actually mentioned specifically the 40 days in the desert. You know, that's why we have Lent. Even if you're not Christian or Catholic, you've heard of Lent before.

So that was when Jesus was tempted in the desert for 40 days and didn't drink, didn't eat. I was tempted by the devil. And he said that was basically Jesus' redemption, his way of redeeming himself from falling the original sin when he was Adam. Then he came back and passed a test in the desert in those 40 days. And then he died for us so that we would not have original sin. Right. So that's Edgar Casey's explanation.

So his readings and interpretations of reincarnation are obviously not mainstream. Okay. So let's just put that out there. but he was going through a reincarnation reading with someone, and he spoke about her life as a Mayan priestess. Whoa. And this is an actual quote from the reading. He said, the entity was among the priestesses of the Mayan experience.

It was just before that period when those as from the East had come, speaking of Atlanteans, that's who he was talking about. And there were the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding that there were, those that were visiting from other worlds or planets. Aha. That was in 1616? So that was, that's how they number,

it's very confusing. That's how they number some of his readings in his library of, you know, tens of thousands of readings. Yeah, because he had three people that transcribed his readings. Right, right, right. Over the many years.

There were 10,000 readings. So that was number 1616-1, if you want to go ahead and look into that in the Agrakeesie readings. But, I mean, Karen, it doesn't get much. much more clear than that. I mean, he specifically mentioned visiting from other worlds or planets and talked about other

entities. And it's funny because if you really read into this, I mean, this connects exactly to what, you know, people in our interest or our circle of interest have connected for years, which is ancient aliens going back to the Mayan civilization and helping the Mayans when it came to math, when it came to astronomy and astrology. I mean, how did they have these precise constructions when you look at their structures and their pyramids and things like that? I mean, and their readings and their knowledge of space and the constellations. The Mayan calendar was wrong.

Well, you know, there's that. But they did have. We all were standing by with our fingers and our ears. What was that, 2012? That's right, December 21st, 2012. But they did have these precise readings of astrology and all these different things in math. How did they get all these? and that's what people have always wondered,

and they theorized, well, they must have had help from a higher civilization. There's so many things around the earth that cannot be explained. If you go back to this reading, again, if you buy into the accurate casey readings, he talks about entities being there from Atlantis, from other worlds who lived in Atlantis and being there at the Mayans civilization.

So it's amazing how the dots really start to connect when you look into everything. I mean, other readings imply aliens. He called them people of the universe. That's right. And those of us on Earth. as man. Right, because he actually said,

from that reading or talking about Karen, this was the exact quote, man may become with the people of the universe, ruler of any of the various spheres through which the soul passes in its experiences. Very deep. Whoa. So that, but that made us wonder, Karen.

That kind of got us thinking, we kind of fell down a rabbit hole when we were doing the research for this part two. episode. What does that mean exactly? So does that mean? And again, these are all our theories. You can theorize along with us. Yeah, you're a Catholic, so be careful. I know. It's, you start to get into some gray areas here, no pun intended on gray. But when you start to read the quote, man may become with the people of the universe, ruler of any of the various spheres through which the soul passes in its experiences. So he's talking about, Karen, multiple experiences,

reincarnations, I suppose, of which the soul passes through? Or is he talking about traveling through space and time? And then that goes back to, again, follow along here, that goes back to the soul experience, the original form of energy that he said we were. That's what he's talking about. Energy. At the creation of the universe.

Mass and time. All of it combines. And, you know, Einstein probably got visited by somebody too. but we're all energy. And, you know, that's what animates us in this vessel that we call our body. Which kind of led us to believe during our, I guess, our post-recording meeting last time. Yeah, that was pretty heavy. It was.

But that kind of led us to believe because remember I said at the end of the previous episode on part one, I kind of had a revelation doing all this research. And I think that revelation for me, I guess the light bulb was, well, if we were all this energy, again, if you go by Edgar Casey's theories and readings, if we were all this energy to start off four and a half billion years ago at the creation of the universe the big bang

the big bang then who's to say that we humans aren't the aliens well maybe we're just all aliens which again doesn't go into the definition of alien because that means something foreign or strange to a planet or a land or maybe we were an alien

and now our energy is on earth so if we're all just the same energy if energy is the same throughout the universe, then we're all created in the image of God, right? If you go by the Bible and the Christian teachings, we're all creating the image of God. So what if the image of God is just energy? Because remember, when they talk about in theology, getting really deep here. A white light.

Yes, they talk about the white light. They talk about God doesn't have a face, even though in, you know, European art and modern art, God is depicted as this man with a long white beard, right? like a Santa Claus looking type person. But that's... Nah, that's father time. That's right. But, you know, the Holy Trinity, okay, is depicted as God, the father with a long white beard.

Jesus, you know, of course, the younger, you know, white European-looking male, even though he's more arrow because he lives in those times. And, you know, early centuries. That's right. And then you have the Holy Spirit depicted as the dove, you know, with the light coming down. So if we say God created man in his image, then if... God was just, this is just a form of energy, then what if that was his image? He created everyone in his image, meaning just this energy. We just take different forms and different locations.

Is that makes sense? Yeah. Well, we are all energy, yes. So then in that case. I mean, even animals. That would mean that, okay. You should be kind to everybody. And just because you are in a certain vessel now in this life, next life, you may be in a

different vessel, different shape. You may be in a different color vessel. It doesn't matter what vessel you're in. This is just such a small snapshot in time. Yeah. That none of all this stuff that everyone's arguing about, whether they're a male or a female or what color they are, none of it matters.

We're all the same. Yeah. You know, you've got to remember the big picture in life. You know, that's the bottom line. And I think what's interesting about when you really dive deep into this, and I apologize for getting so deep today, but that's kind of what popped into our, heads here when going through all this before we came on is I guess we're just all you know this

this form of energy the creation of God if you want to I believe that if you want to believe that if you don't that's up to you and essentially maybe that means that God also created aliens if you go down that rabbit hole aliens to us because if they're just energy life forms like us well they may then why not? They may be part of another, more advanced in time. Right. So they have advanced more in terms of, I don't know, their energy is just smarter. Maybe.

Or just, you know, more enlightened because they didn't fall down the rabbit hole of Earth like we did. Yeah, let me pull you back up. Yes, because that's, well, that's how Edgar Casey explained it was that basically we all had that enlightenment. We all had that closeness, that spirituality. But eventually we kind of came down to Earth, so to speak. while other life forms. We get mired here. Stayed up.

Dr. Brian Weiss, who regressed me, we were on ABC's 2020 together. It was kind of interesting. And Hugh Downs interviewed us, but he didn't want to be regressed because he didn't want to surrender the sovereignty of his soul. But, you know, Dr. Brian Weiss says that once you do get enlightened and you understand what's going on, then you get to move on from this earth and you get to become a master or you get to go elsewhere. Yeah.

So you don't have to keep doing it over and over again, like a root of. elementary soul like a serial killer, they're going to have to do it over again. If you don't get it and you don't. For their sake, I hope so. Yeah, and you're not kind to people and you're not helping and serving and volunteering and giving back and thinking about other people other than yourself, then you're going to have to do it over again. Yeah, and now look, look, it's up to you, whatever you want to believe.

We're not here to tell you what to believe in, you know. No, this is just stuff that we're regurgitating from much smarter people. Yes, this is all, we're all theorizing here. So it's, yeah, quite the rabbit hole to go down. You talk about with time as well, Karen. You know, it's all just a blip in time. Agger Casey actually spoke on that too before we get into our last subject here, which was the strange case of the moon dweller, which we're going to do in a second.

Which goes back to, you know, another Edgar Casey reading. But he spoke about time in one instance. And he said time is basically, it's not the construct that we know. No. In fact, that's when you're afraid of dying. You shouldn't be because your energy goes somewhere and time stops. time is you know it doesn't go on anymore. Right.

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God always has been and always will be. Right. And it's hard to... Mind blown. Right. And it's hard to wrap your head around because... What do you mean? We are used to this construct of time.

We're used to seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, years. The end. Yes. You know, there's a beginning. There's a middle. There's an end. We're used to that construct of time. And that's why I always had such trouble trying to wrap my head around the eternity.

It's like, well... I can see a little stevie. What do you mean forever? Like, but... But there's no end that I would get freaked out. And if you think about the way Edgar Casey explained time, it's that, and it talks about this too in the Gospels, where God's timing is a lot different than our timing. I think God had a timex.

Maybe. It took a licking and kept on ticking. Well, yeah, because the way they explained it is basically time is not linear. It's not the beginning, middle end. It's, I guess, a circle, if you want to imagine it that way. It's just there. You're just there. There is no beginning and end.

Now, God talks to us in the fact of, I am, you know, the alpha and the omega, the beginning in the end, because that's how we understand things. But there is no, there is no time, I guess you could say. I try to be in the moment because you might not be here. I might step outside and get hit by a car. You just don't know. Right. I try to enjoy every moment and be present and, like, I get it, you know.

I'm enjoying doing this podcast with you right now. Yeah, right. Exactly. And that's what you have to try to do is, you know, seize the day type thing. I'm not going to worry about tomorrow. and what the heck, you know? Right. No, no.

That's what you have to try to do. So it's, again, very deep, very interesting. Sorry to go so deep today. But that's how your case you explained. It basically is everything happening all at once, essentially. Boom. Yeah. That's how, I guess, God's timing works.

I love it. Try to wrap your head around that one. But we'll kind of dig out of the rabbit hole there and go into our final subject of the day, which was this strange case of the moon dweller. Back to the moon, I have not. And actually, you're right, back to the moon, because before this, we did another two-part series. About the moon. Right, Secrets of the Moon, which was very intriguing.

We had quotes from Buzz Aldrin and how they saw it. What's so funny. I mean, UFOs. Apollo 13, no one cared that they were going back to the moon. No one was watching their live telecast. It's just same thing with the Challenger. You know, Earthlings get so bored. Oh, they're going to the moon again.

Then they had a problem. Right. Houston. We have a problem. and now everyone was, oh gosh, now we're interested. But before, his daughter's like, well, the Beatles are breaking up. I don't want to see Dad on TV. It's amazing how quickly we get sick of things.

I'm not bored of the moon, though. We couldn't survive without the moon. No, no, no, we need the moon. So actually, like we said, Edgar Casey did speak about the moon. And this goes back to another reading that he did. He spoke to a 42-year-old female homemaker back, you know, back in the day. That's when women were homemakers. That's right.

Yes. My mom was a homemaker, actually. Maybe one of the last. I don't know. All she had on was the sauce and some heels. That's right. That's right. So all the power to you, if you're a homemaker, mom or dad. God bless you. So he spoke to her. And this was a quote.

He started talking about one of her past lives, you know, again, if you want to believe that. This is the reading that he gave her. Said, quote, as it has been often presented by one school of thought, the dwellers upon the moon preceded it. the abilities from matter. And he's basically talking about expressed... Oh, so that's where the soul's... The energy started.

Possibly. He's talking about like expressed in a form that is known as matter in the earth. So try to connect that. Matter is energy, right? Courtney Dynstein? Yeah. Yeah.

He says, and this entity was among those that so dwelt and is influenced by two sojourns there. So basically saying that this woman was a moon dweller at one point. Oh. And then came to Earth in her next life is what he's saying there.

So he's explaining to her, basically, the traveling of souls being able to incarnate, meaning a soul, becoming embodied in flesh or physical matter. So he's saying preparations were being made by soul entities who are living in a colony on the moon. And then he's telling, they call her Miss 264, they never gave her name, that she was among those beings living on the moon getting ready to come to Earth. And then she tried to tell that story to Daddy, and he spanked. her. Yeah, yeah, pretty much because she actually went on to say, it kind of made sense to her because

she revealed later, some years later after that reading that her mother told her that when she was three or four years old, that she used to gather the neighborhood children, get this, and tell the kids in the neighborhood stories about the moon and what she did when she used to live there. She did this when she was three or four. So this is before most kids can even remember what they're saying. It's not like she learned it online. Right. So then she talked about one day how her dad gave her a spanking, like you say, Karen, for telling lies. Because obviously, what are you going to think as a parent? Why is my kid making up these stories about living on the moon at one point and giving all these descriptions about moon colonies? So she never talked about it again because basically it was kind of beat out of her as a child.

But then, you know, later on as time went on and she got these readings from Casey's, she said her mother regretted not having had the life reading from him earlier. because she kind of felt bad for punishing her. Yeah. And she was two years old before she learned to sleep at night. I think there's some kid in Texas who thinks he is Princess Diana's soul. That's an interesting story. It is. I mean, he gives details about the palace, about people that she knew.

How would he know? It's very odd. That's a very odd story. You're right. But once she got this reading from Casey, she kind of started to connect the dots with their own life because she, again, was starting to say, well, wow, my mother is now telling me that I talked about the moon as a three-year-old, and I gave descriptions of what I did there in the colonies.

And then she kind of started to make sense of her own life because she always talked about how she would stay awake all night. She was an insomnia. And she never understood. This was before insomnia was diagnosed as a condition. But she never understood why she liked sleeping during the day and liked staying awake at night. She's nocturnal.

Right. And maybe that explained why, because that's, I guess, what they... Maybe she was on the dark side of the moon. My gosh. So again, this all goes back, you know, to what we said before, were we originally star beings? Did we have this sojourn through space? You know, could something like that, like we said earlier, explain the idea of aliens as a whole? Did we solve the mystery of time and space and aliens, Karen?

And who the next pope will be? It's unbelievable. Oh, my God, it's just mind bending. The mind reels with the possibilities. Oh, my gosh, it really does. And maybe that would explain different things like. You know, why going back to the Nimitz, how this whole podcast started to begin with, does it all tie together, how the Nimitz saw these craft, you know, the famous video that kind of started the congressional hearings and the investigations of these crafts going so fast and going Mach 9 and speeds that would melt the human's face. I mean, if these are just higher life forms meaning energy and they don't have the same composition as us, right.

Maybe that's how they're able to go these incredible speeds. structure. And maybe that's how valiant Thor. That's right. When we talked about him in a previous episode and he's talking, you know, living inside of Venus, maybe he's that higher life for him because they didn't regress down to earth beings and why they understood, you know, how to be closer to God. Because remember, Karen, we talked about that.

And this was even before we got into these, these Edgar Casey things. And it's just funny how it all comes together. The stories of Vali and Thor, he said, I can teach you how to be closer to God, how to one with Jesus. They're like, no, no, no. That's going to ruin our society and our economy. So if they're one of the lower beings in the universe. So if that's the case, all of this would make sense. Yeah, I'm open to like getting closer instead of kind of just worrying about all the minutiae that people get so caught up in here on Earth. It's just, ugh. It's, it's fascinating. And when you really start to dive into some of these things and connect it inadvertently

with different things we've talked about in previous episodes. It all connects. It all starts to come together, doesn't it? It does. It feels like we figured something out here today. I think so. But then... Wait, I'm hearing angels singing.

Oh, uh-oh. Be careful. You know, don't go into the light, Karen. I need you for episode 25. Oh, yes. This is going to be so cool. Yes, so stick around for that next time because... Because we're talking about energy now, but then we're going to talk about the vessels.

Yeah, it's going to get really... The shapes and sizes and colors of aliens. We want to... to do something different because episode 25 is a big deal. I mean, our silver anniversary. That's right. And we thank you all who have been delving into these strange stories and happenings and

theories with us because the response has been great. You know, the, I guess you could say, just everybody coming together and listening to what we've been doing. We need to set up either Facebook page or an Instagram page where people can message us with their ideas because we need to get a two-way. street going so we can hear about if this is ringing true for anybody yeah we would love to hear some feedback so look out for like a twitter page possibly for uap or a facebook page we'd love to hear you feedback on some of these because again the response has been great we have almost you know over 11 000

downloads at this point since we just started so and we're still you know a little baby podcast so we appreciate all of you've been consuming the show and listening and enjoying it hopefully you've been enjoying it yeah because next week we are going to get in to some specifics about groups called, say, the Palladians, the Arcturians, the Grays, the Nordics. Who are they? We've always just talked about aliens as a whole. And why do they only have three fingers? That's right.

Some species they've been talked about having, you know, some three fingers or they're short. So we're going to get into the specifics of all of these different species that we've kind of mentioned in passing before. How they materialize to people. And then we'll also hear from people that actually saw them and their account of what they saw. That's right. So it's not every alien is the same. No, no. And again, that goes into, you know, someone like Vali and Thor has appeared as just a normal person.

Yeah, but he was handsome. That's what they say. Very good-looking alien. Hollywood handsome. Yes, yes. So we're going to dive into all of that next time. We're going to go real deep into. Well, this was pretty deep.

That was. But then different kind of deep into descriptions and specifics of different species. of aliens that we've, again, mentioned in passing. We're going to go in a little bit deeper next time on episode 25. So make sure to keep an eye out for all episodes of UAP on Apple and Spotify, wherever we get your podcasts, and on 850WFTL.com. This episode will be there right at there on the UAP podcast page. And all previous ones, too, if you want to catch up and hear anything that you missed.

Yeah, it's not, we're not telling you what's really going on. We're just throwing all this stuff out there. You can consume it and take what you want, leave the rest of it. of it, whatever. Make up your own mind. Enjoy, think, make up your own mind. Yes, it's good. Think.

Yes. That's what we try to do. Critical thinking. God forbid, right? God forbid. But no, hey, look, thanks for listening. Thanks for enjoying and look forward to doing episode 25 next time. Karen Curtis there, Stephen Deiner here on UAP.

Talk to you again next time.