UAP Unidentified Alien Podcast - UAP Greatest Hits: The Forgotten Whistleblower? The DC Long Story

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

During the Disclosure Project conference in June of 2023, a whistleblower named DC Long came forward with a shocking tale. Has his story been forgotten? Listen back to when he decided to sit down with Stephen Diener in this extremely revealing interview that covers everything from floating stones in underground bases, to death threats, and everything in between. Hang on tight...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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so you can hear the interviews or hear the stories and really experience it the way that someone else got to experience it a year or two ago. And in this case, I'm doing this for a specific reason. I wanted to re-release my really kind of groundbreaking interview when we did it with DC Long. And DC, just a fantastic guy. and I'm going to give you a little background before we go into the interview because when I jump into the interview for this greatest hits edition, it really just jumps right into the interview. So I'm going to give you a little bit background in case you don't know who he is or his story or why this would be on a greatest hits edition. Now, just for a perspective, this episode originally aired on July 18, 2023. So about a year and a half ago. And the reason why I had DC on the show is because he was part of the whistleblower, Project Disclosure Project really was the more apt name that Dr. Stephen Greer had back in June of

2023 in Washington, D.C. And he was one of the whistleblowers who took the stage that day, along with Michael Herrera and Eric Hecker. That's when the world was introduced to these three men. And D.C.'s story, I feel like is the story that I hate to say gets forgotten because I don't want it to sound like a negative thing. It's just, it's not the story that's, spoken about as often as Eric Hecker. Eric Hecker still gets brought up because, you know, we spoke about direct energy weapons being emanating from Antarctica. And Michael Herrera comes up a lot in different conversations because of his testimony

about psionics and, you know, these black site projects and things like that so that the government keeps hidden. And Michael Herrera stays active as well on social media. D.C. Long doesn't really stay active on social media, nor in the whistleblower conversations. He kind of came out, told his story, was nice enough to come on my show. He was on Sean Ryan as well, actually. Around the same time, he came on UAP. He was on Sean Ryan. And so he's been on a few different shows speaking about his experience in coming across basically secret tech that was being tested at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. And he's a veteran,

an Army veteran with a ton of experience. And you'll hear it all here. I mean, we spoke for over an hour. And so that's one of the reasons why, really the main reason why I wanted to re-release this episode is because of all the talk. Again, Michael Herrera is still out there talking on social media, does interviews here and there. But also with the testimonies recently from someone like Jake Barber, who was just on with Ross Colthardt, talking about, you know, psionics and aircraft recovery when it comes to the egg UAP or the eight gun, as they called it. and all these emotions that he felt connected with it, the spiritual aspect side of things.

So I felt like it was good timing to bring this out and kind of look back and maybe connect some dots from when this interview took place in July of 2023 to where we are now, you know, late January 2025. So you're going to hear D.C. Long, his background, his story, what he came across, what happened to him and his father, who was working as a government contractor and what happened that day when they were on Fort Bragg,

what they saw and what ended up happening after that. Really, again, just an incredible story. If you're not familiar with D.C. Long and his story, then you're definitely going to want to stick around for this edition of Greatest Sits. There's a reason why I'm putting this out in a Grated Sits edition. Outside of this, though, just a real quick note, I am working on some new things this week as well, so stay tuned for that.

Wherever you get your podcasts, of course, wherever you get this one right here on Apple or Spots. and follow along on social media at UA Podcast 850 for the latest updates and the new things that are coming out. But right now, I wanted to focus on this one here today. So here it is right now, D.C. Long and myself right here on UAP, the Unidentified Alien Podcast. Enjoy. D.C., thank you for joining UAP Weekly here today. Thanks for having me, Stephen. I really appreciate it.

Yeah, yeah, no problem. It's my pleasure. So before we kind of get into the nuts and bolts of it, so to speak, I want to just, for people who aren't familiar with you or your background, can you just give a little background of, you know, what you've done as far as military history, things like that so they can get a little feel for who you are? Absolutely. I joined the military in 1997 from 97 to 2013, whenever my career ended. During that time, I had to help multiple MOSs. I actually started out in the National Guard. I went to Basic after my junior year of high school. After my senior year, I went to AIT, went to war with the National Guard for my first deployment.

And after I got back, I transitioned to active duty, became an 11 x-ray, went through infantry school down in Fort Bend, Georgia, jump school, and Ranger School there as well. And that's what led me to Fort Bragg after I was injured in combat jump. So, and we'll get to that later, actually. And so you've been through a few tours, right? Were you in Iraq and Afghanistan or just one of the other? Both. Both. Okay. So let's jump into the story that you were telling at the Disclosure Conference

because I think your story really resonated with a lot of people. Of course, I mean, you know, Mike Herrera and a lot of the guys, everybody had kind of like their own feel when they told their whole person, account and I think yours really touched a lot of people because of the journey that you went through the ups and the ups and the ups and I know you you talked about while you were there something that happened with you and your father your father was a government contractor is that right he had his own business correct and he very very successful business and you were working with him at the time right he had called me and asked me to come

work with him. Okay. You know, anytime that I had a break, I would, I would do it anyways because, you know, just that's the way we were.

So, um, he had contracts with the Army Corps of engineers up and down the Eastern Seaboard from Fort Drum, New York, well. On, I went down to Florida.

You know, it's, it was a lucrative business, but, you know, it sounds cheesy, but that's not what we were in it for. You know,

we just really enjoyed the work. And he was such a perfection. Yeah. Maybe to a fault. But that's why it took us to Forebragg. We'd always been kind of centric there because I grew up about 45 minutes east from Forbrague in Bladen County, North Carolina. And all of our work had started with residential houses, barns, all contracts.

We did a ton of churches around North Carolina in South Carolina. But he got to a level, finally got him with the... Army Corps of Engineers in the late 80s, and that's whenever he started out for Bragg doing the work. So he had a name built out there with his company, Lanko Builders. Okay. So, and that's when kind of, what year was it when the event took place that kind of changed everything for you guys? 2010. Okay.

And so, again, this is what we kind of focused on at the conference, the disclosure conference, was 2010, Fort Bragg. You guys come in for a job and I guess you saw something you weren't necessarily supposed to see, right? Yeah, he was at the time, you know, like I said, if I wasn't directly involved in the contract, you know, then we just didn't talk about it. He was a self-sustained unit. I think at the time that all of this happened, he had about 75 employees that were just in and around Fort Bragg itself. but like I said it was 2010. He had called me up and he was working at 18th Airborne headquarters in the G5 War Room. Just doing minor renovations, it wasn't anything special really.

Just, you know, modernizing the room. And he called me and asked me if I could go help him lay out for a bid, which to us just means taking down measurements. I knew it was something to do with that stuff, by the way that he was approaching it, because he's done a ton of work for those guys, the shoot houses, lanes, their barracks, HQ, just a ton of work, everything he laid his hands on. But he called me and asked me to meet him at 18th, every one headquarters. So that's where I met him.

And whenever I got there, that's whenever he told me that he was waiting on a contact and escort from JFK, Warfare Center to meet with us and take us down there. And now, I have to preface that by saying that whenever we got there, because I've heard a lot of people say, well, you know, these stories are great, but we don't have any pictures. Well, the reason why is whenever we're going into something like that, spent just 18th everywhere in headquarters in general, not even anything special, just admin. You have to surrender your identification and your telephone. Any form of electronics, it doesn't matter if it's a smart watch, which I don't think we had those back then. But everything had to be turned over, which wasn't anything different than the norm.

You know, that's just what we were used to. And so after we had surrendered our electronics and ID, the van pulls up. And Al Popp is one of the guys that he knew. Actually, both of us knew. This is one of the guys that used to go down to my father's land in Blank County and Hunt. we would go with this guy all over the United States just to go on hunts. Mason, Colorado, in Canada, Georgia for board huts. Doug Hunts down and Stugger at Arkansas.

And we did that, the Arkansas swing about five or six times, but these were people that we knew, you know, intimately, we thought. Trusted. So there wasn't much to it in the sense that I felt like we had anything to worry about. it was just, like I said, business as usual. And so he pulls up and he opens the door to this van and it's like a box man in the sense that it was boxed out inside, meaning that it looked like a prisoner transport that you had no access to the front compartment back, no windows whatsoever. There was just two flat seats, almost like a cattle car. And so we hop in and they take us, it was about a 15th.

15 minute drive and my dad was telling me that it's a place called Range 19 and they were wanting to update what they called an underground shoot house. It's the same things we used to use whenever we were training for CQB flowing through rooms. It was intended to be an elevated platform above a mock house that you can observe down to the operators just flowing through the rooms to clear the buildings, engage hostels and the like. So yet again, it didn't seem like anything that warranted any form of caution. It was just for him, business as usual. Like said, so we pull up to the place called Range 19. And we were so close to the front door that as soon as he opened the doors, we were less than four feet from the front entrance.

And there was trash everywhere. It looked like a literal dump. Like they built this little hut. with a 45 degree angle concrete barriers and then there's the door. And it was just trash everywhere. So I started giggling because I was like, man, this is a crap hole. Yeah. We go inside and there's another escort there.

Another escort there that met us at the door. And he walks us to a freight elevator. And whenever the door is open and this thing was massive, it had to be at least 10, 12 foot wide. compared to the ones that I've seen before. And we step in. And I noticed to the right that there were a series of buttons, just the way it normally would be an afraid elevator,

but they didn't have any numbers on it whatsoever. It was just nondescript, opaque. It was just nothing. I thought that was strange. As we're going down, the other guy says to us, keep your heads down and keep your eyes on the heels the man in front of you or you'll be shot and me and my dad kind of snickered but you know the guy

just kind of cocked his eyebrow out of so I was like oh okay so the door is open and we go into this hangar uh I can preface that I'm saying we it took about 30 seconds to get down there to where we were to the floor that we exited and the door is open and And again, the dig just didn't seem to be anything of consequence there. There was this large, I've spoken about, the monolithic slab. It was probably 20 foot long, maybe 7 to 10 feet wide or 7 to 10 feet tall. I couldn't really tell how wide it was from the first angle that I got on it. But I could tell that there was, you know, nothing holding this thing up.

And it looked like it was about a foot and a half almost off of the ground. But there was nothing holding it up. Again, I didn't see any problem with that. I mean, because it could be held up by post. It just wasn't something that really caught my attention at that point. But the closer we got to this thing at the center, there was this black box on the top of it, and it looked like a GMTK box. It was about this wide, about that tall, and it had two leads coming off of it, and it was black,

but you could see something inside of it, and it wasn't glowing. There weren't lights. It was just almost like a smoky, finish like a like tinted headlights or something like that that are super dark but you can still see what's behind it you just don't really know what it was but the closer I get to the center of this thing I started feeling this intense vibration and you would expect to to hear something that's that intense but it wasn't it wasn't producing any noise whatsoever the only thing that we could really hear were the

sounds of our boots walking through this area. And we were on a straight path. There was two little yellow lines on the side. And the only part of it that was illuminated was directly above our heads. But the closer I got to the center, it started growing just, I can't say louder, but it was just more intense. And the frequency didn't change at that point. It was just, it was so powerful.

Honestly, I would love to experience it again because I've never experienced anything like it was so strange to me. And, you know, I remember at one point I kind of reached up and, you know, flicked my ear like I was digging something out of it to see if I was losing my freaking mind. Yeah. But we get to the center of it. And it was so intense.

I just had to stop. So I was like, oh, I got the time of shoot. I bent down. And I'm glancing over. And I can see that there is nothing under this thing. Absolutely nothing holding it up. And behind it, I could see what looked like. like a boulder, but it was a really off white chalky color.

And it was sitting flat on the ground. And I looked back at about a 45 behind me. And there was another one. And I could see a guy just moving it with his hand. And then he pulled back this one, move it back that way. Say it in it. It was like in midair, this, this hole. He was just spinning it in the air.

It wasn't as high as the slab that I was beside. But it was enough that you could see through. beneath it. And it just, it blew my mind. And at that point, that's when the escort who was standing behind me, nudged me in the back, said, let's go. So we stand up, we got follow, excuse me, follow on, go down a flight of stairs. And that's whenever we arrived to the area where we, our AO, the area where we were going

to build this mock house inside of there for, you know, with a high-rise observation deck. And we were probably in there maybe 15 minutes, did nothing more than just literally take measurements of the dimensions of the room. And just to see what we were going to put in there. So we know the amount of materials we had to bring back, if at all. And we're coming back the same way we just went down. We go up the flight of stairs and we come into the same room. And I'm excited at this point, man. I'm like, I've got to check this thing out again.

And we get in there. said, it had only been 15 minutes, max. It didn't take us no time to do what we had to do down there, but it was absolutely gone. Wow. There was nothing in there. And, you know, I've said it before, I believe in Washington that the only thing I could hear was our feet because, you know, we didn't have to communicate to pull tape. That's just, he's just frigging thing in the world.

But you would be able to hear if somebody was moving something that massive. Now, they asked me before how heavy, since I had a construction background like that, what hell, how heavy do you think that slab was? I was like, man, I don't know, you know, maybe 55 tons because you had to have the same ounces in M1 Abrams. There's no way you didn't. That thing was just massive. I was all struck by how big it was. But like I said, we go and going back, there's nothing there. and at that point

I was thinking I was thinking oh you know that simple's not right but you know we didn't say a word on the way back

me and my father or nothing we're just I guess trying to absorb what happened and I wish looking back that I would have

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It feels like a continuation. Explore your options at kingsley manor.org, a nonprofit month-to-month senior community within the Front Porch family. So what did you think it was in the moment? I mean, you're seeing these giant stones, this monolithic stones, you know, any estimate, maybe around 50 tons, like you're saying, where this thing is floating in the air. They're spinning these boulders in mid-air.

And you feel the vibration. Were you putting two and two together at that point that is it possible they're using some type of sound resonance, some type of vibration technology to actually make heavy objects levitate? Or was it just so much happening in the moment that it didn't even cross your mind? So much did in the moment. You know, aside of knowing that, you know, I really shouldn't have been there or at the very least shouldn't have been as curious as I was, it's you know I could probably relate it like this if you know having the fact of something doesn't even compare to the emotion that's experienced along with it it's like walking down the road with your friends with your wife and then you see a pedestrian get hit by a car

you know that that's a car that's a person wham it's done whatever happened happened but the emotional aspect of it is one of the most difficult things to describe there just aren't enough words for it. There was so much going through my mind. I'd never, I'd been conditioned not to ask too many questions, but that was just within the purview of, you know, things that may or may not have been classified, you know, operations that we were part of that you just couldn't talk about,

not because it was sensational, it's just nobody's business. And the implications are much farther reaching than an opinion. You let some of that stuff out. You could start an international incident. But later, I started to think about, you know, everything that you just said, that, you know, I think the first thing that I really experienced was confusion as to why this was being hidden. Why it was such a big secret because the world could benefit so much from something like that. Right. And, you know, then the further I went along, the first thing that really struck me was thinking about, you know, the discussion about how the pyramids were created.

You know, some of the hieroglyphs that depict things that just can't be, you know, the equipment, the flying vehicles, the Ananaki, the giant people that are there, you know, conducting this entire operation. It was, it was just really confusing. Of course, I had to wrap my head around what the hell I just saw. I had to rationalize it to make sure that it was real. And then I was just left in a perpetual state of confusion. So what happened after? I mean, so you guys leave. You and your father leave, you know, range 19.

You see this, I guess we can call some type of, you know, top secret, you know, military experiment using some, you know, this top secret technology. What happens after you leave? I mean, do they let you go, even though they know that you saw it? Well, after we left, we got back to 18th Airborne headquarters to retrieve our electronics, our identification, get back to our vehicles so we could just go our separate ways. One of the guys said, come with me. We go upstairs to 18th of where my dad was working in the G5. and there was a guy that I recognized that was sitting at a table and he had two pieces of paper in front of him. He's like, hey, boys, and he just slit it up.

And I looked at it and I started giggling. It was just more or less than NDA debrief. And I was like, I'm not signing this. You know what I do for a living man? And I just tossed it. I walked out. And apparently my father did the same thing. You know, I could hear them talking about.

I couldn't decipher what they were saying. So I go down. And I'm waiting for him to come back out. And then the other guys come with him. Two of them go there's separate ways than that last gentleman that was standing there. I'd hesitate to call him that at this point. You'll understand why later. But he's standing there.

And they're having a pretty heated discussion. And my dad just turned around and looked at me and did like that. And so I was like, all right. So I just got my truck in the left. Just went on about my business as usual. I went back to my old house in Bladen County. It was getting ready to go back down to Georgia. And 24 hours later, when I was getting ready to go, I get a phone call from one of his workers.

I don't think it would have heard to say his name now. He's since passed, but his name was Marlon. And he's like, hey, man, we can't go to work today. I was like, why? You sick? He's like, no, he's like, the shop's closed. He's like, everything's gone. I was like, what do you mean?

Everything's gone. He's like, I'm telling you, man, everything's gone. So it took him a while to convince me that what he was telling me, because, you know, we were all about pulling pranks on each other, you know. So I make my way back down to my dad's shop. Well, I say my dad's shop. It was ours, you know, where we housed all of our equipment. And we had millions of dollars worth of equipment.

It sounds like a lot. But you ask anybody, you know, they works in the construction or farming, you know, just one piece of equipment can set you back $700,000. But, yeah, we get down there and the gate's gone. Like the physical gate that, you know, the barrier to stop anybody from the property is completely gone. And just at glance, I didn't even have to go down there, man. It was just, it was a ghost town where, I mean, even my race car was gone. I had a 73 Dodge Charger special edition down there with a 383 wedge that I was working on. That was gone.

Everything was gone. And so I make my way to my father's house and his doors open, it's cracked. You can see where somebody had kicked it and he's just sitting on the couch just like this. And I was like, hey, man, he just looks up at me. And I was like, what in the hell? And he just kept shaking his head and he wouldn't say anything. And I said, Daddy, do you think this had something to do with Range 19? And he stood up and pardon me for saying it.

I don't know if you need to bleep it, just give me a heads up. But he looks at me and he says, don't you ever say that to me again. And he just told me to get the hell out. And so, you know, fathers and sons have arguments all the time. But that was the last time he and I had the conversation. And I said before, that was the last time we had a civil conversation. but I think some didn't quite understand that I was just poking fun. That's the way we talked to each other.

But there was just something different in his eyes that day. Me and him had a great relationship. Whenever I get a chance, I'm going to send you an email with the link that WECT at a Wilmington came down and did a story on us when we were racing. And you could hear the things that we say about each other. And I mean, the guy was my hero. Yeah. It wasn't some jackass on TV.

It wasn't some poster on my wall. It was that man. The first memory I had in this entire world was sitting in his lap at double motor speedway and looking up at him. And that dude looked like a mountain to me. He was a beast of a man. He was a good man. It sounds like it sounds like he knew. It sounds like he knew in that moment when you asked him.

you know, was this about range 19? And he just just didn't want to talk about it. And that, that's, that was the case, right? I mean, they, they, they took everything from you guys. Absolutely. With the rapport that we had with the Army Corps of Engineers on a first name basis, the report that we had with senior ranking officers, not just in 18th, but 82nd, the 105th engineers, J-Soc, you know, we knew these guys guys.

guys on a first name basis. And so they knew the caliber of not just the type of professional that my father was, that we were as a team. They knew him personally that he was just a good man. If he didn't earn it, he didn't want it. And that's the way he's been his whole life. You know, he was just a rock, solid dude. There's two questions that come to mind, D.C., if you don't mind me asking.

The first one would be, who did that as you guys? Who took everything? Who basically, you know, ruined your lives in that moment and took the business and took the equipment and took the money? I mean, who does that? Stephen, if you can answer that question, then both of us will know. Because I have no clue. And I tried for the longest time. After that, you know, he was blacklisted from Bragg.

They claimed that he was bid rigging, which is the point I was going to get to before. You know, granted, you know, we were at Alonco Builders was. in control of all of the operations that we took part in. We were, you know, the senior name on the bids, the bids structure. But, you know, as a general contractor, you have to sub out almost 85 to 90 percent of the work that you can't do yourself. So you just bring in subcontractors. And the accusation was that my father had someone on the inside of the Army Corps of Engineers that gave us the peak bid that told us how much the DOD was willing to spend on these projects. and then they were saying that he took that information, went to all of his subcontractors,

and it's basically saying that, look, this is what your max bid can be to get it. And it was like their magic bid, you know, within $10,000 or $12,000 of the highs and lows, that you have that sweet spot in the middle that will earn you that contract. They claim that that's what he was doing. So basically accusing him of an insider trading type of thing. Right. However, there was zero paper trail. You know, if that was the case, the first thing I expected to get a call from was at least, at the very least, Jag, a representative from the DOD, CID, or even the district attorney.

But none of those conversations ever took place. And it is quite the coincidence that those accusations come up the day after you guys are at Range 19 and see these, you know, levitating stones and whatnot. That's pretty interesting, isn't it? You know, for me, it wasn't losing everything. You know, I've been down that road before. We've had tough times before. I'm no stranger that, you know, having something on Monday, and by Friday it's gone. You know, we just, we weren't built that way.

It was just the fact that somebody took a hit, and it was us. And it's one thing to take a hit. You roll the punches, you get up. But when you don't know who's swinging and how hard and how far their reach is, that's dangerous. Because they completely crippled everything. We'll actually touch on some of that stuff too. But I wanted to ask you a second question from that. And I hope you don't take offense to it because I'm sure you've been asked before.

And it's not in a degrading way. But what was it that led you guys to both decide in that moment not to sign the NDA? Because I think what a lot of people would pop into their head when they're listening to you, when they're listening to us talk about this, a lot of people might say, well, gosh, why didn't they just sign the NDA? I mean, that could have avoided all their problems. But obviously there was something there. You know, that that's what the layperson would think. But what was it that led you guys to know in that moment? No, that's just not something that we're going to do right now.

well before i answer that i can tell you that everyday sense has been filled with absolute for not doing it you know i kick my own ass more than anybody you know but in the moment i can only speak for myself i personally felt that with the security clearance that i already possessed in service and these guys that i served with guys that i knew intimately outside of the military before i even joined the service before I ever strapped boots on my feet and a flag on my shoulder, I knew these guys. So I think part of me thought it was a joke. Right.

Because, you know, and it was just naivity. It was ignorance because I thought, oh, well, I've got this security clearance. Why are you handing me this? Come on, man, you know me. So I was just like, whatever, dude. And I just laughed it off and walked away. Now, from my dad, I don't know why he did it. And, you know, like I said, it would have been easier if we would have had time after that to talk to each other.

But I don't think that my father was necessarily mad at me. I don't think he was pissed off at anything that we had done. He was probably furious that they took his livelihood from him in such an aggressive manner and so fast. You know, I told, I told Sean Ryan that, and he asked me a similar question. And I said, you know, it just didn't make sense to me. Because if I had to move all of that equipment at once, it would take me at least four days to a week. Right. Just to plan.

Right. You know, just to lay out that advance as to what I'm going to do and where I'm going to take it. But it was so swift. It was like an airstrike out of nowhere. Do you think they could have used that technology to move those things out so quick? You guys had a lot of heavy equipment. I have never considered that. That is a, that's an excellent point.

I've never, it's, damn, you just kind of blew the mind a little bit because I never, I never even put those two together. And it's, it will be a giant middle finger, you know,

to do it that way, but it would be very efficient. That's, that's outstanding, man. I never thought of that, Stephen. I appreciate that. No,

it's just, you know, it popped into my head and it just started wondering, because it would be ironic in the worst way possible. And I don't, you know, to pour salt on a wound or anything, but just to think about how could they have done that so quickly

with all the heavy equipment you guys had and to move it out essentially overnight? It makes a lot of it. In the past, you know, aside from never, I had never had intentions to talk about this publicly. You know, and this may sound cheesy, but I'm telling you, it's from the heart. People like you, people like Lieutenant Colonel Donald W. Hacker

that I met in, DC, Eric Hecker, my good friend Michael Herrera, Dr. Greer, Emily. I could go through a list of names. Two of my absolute best friends that I've met from this, aside from Hecker and Herrera, is Andy and Kat Gordon from Brisbane, Australia. You know, we talk constantly, but all of you give me a strength that I've never had before. you know and I don't make any money from this I'm putting a target on my back by even discussing this with you because those people who did this you know they live less than two hours from me these people know where I am you know but I deliver not a warning not a threat just a declaration I was very talented and killed for my country what do you think I'll do for my family that would not be a wise decision You know, I was willing to die for everybody in this country.

And they gave me an opportunity to do that. I would. One of the biggest regrets I had from every deployment that I had was I just didn't give enough. But you guys, the ones that I've met since this started, you know, you guys give me hope, man. You don't realize how much strength that you guys give. You know, people throw a lot of words around, you know, that me and I know the other guys just, we're very appreciative. from the bottom of my hearts, but I never considered anything

that I went through brave or heroic. I just felt like it was my duty to do it. You know, I felt like if I didn't do it, that I would not be complete. I felt like I just didn't give enough. You know, everybody who died for us,

everybody who sacrificed, you know, they paid the tab. I want to lead the tip. I feel like I had so much more to give. But until all of this started, I damn sure couldn't do it. myself. And people's asked me why have I decided to come out now for it? Because honestly,

I didn't know, excuse me, that the legislation had passed to protect the whistleblowers and the other people to bring this information in the light. I had no clue. It's just when I sent that to Dr. Greer right at a year ago, I never planned to be around to answer any questions for it. If you get my drift. I was just, and it wasn't like I was depressed. I wasn't necessarily suicidal. Maybe in denial. But I just, I was just so damn tired, man. It was so hard, not just with the things that happened with my father.

You know, from the first time that I was in combat to the last, the amount of death and destruction that it just, it wraps you like a second skin that you just can't take off. and you know it's easy to look at the rapport that we have and the conversations that we have be like man those guys have no cares in the world you'd be surprised you know i don't sleep four hours a night and clear every room that i enter because i just want something to do at night i just i can't sleep i'm afraid of dreaming i'm afraid of closing my eyes and seeing my father again and it's it's something that does soften over time with people like you you know with

the guys that I met there with Andy and Kat, you know, just amazing people that make you feel like you're wearing armor again. And I can't thank you guys enough, man, because it's, it's a journey and it doesn't stop. Well, I think that's the best point to make is that it is a journey. And the journey doesn't necessarily have, you know, a golden finish line at the end. There's always steps that you're taking. And so I appreciate that very much. I mean, to say those kind words You know, I can't say how much I appreciate you saying that. And if I can help, if I'm helping in any way, any minuscule way for anybody, for yourself or for my career or for anybody who's listening, then that's, you know, that makes it all worth it. So thank you.

But obviously, you know, we, we look at you guys the same way. So it's reciprocated when it comes to, you know, the admiration. I've told you and Mike off the air before, the admiration that I have. for you guys and what you've done for our country in the past and what you're doing now in a different aspect. And I'm really happy that you and Dr. Greer were able to get together and kind of help you, you know, to prop you back up because you were in a dark place. I know your father passed away.

You got to speak to him again one more time, you know, before he passed away, which you had told that story in Washington, D.C., and I was happy to hear that when I was sitting in that conference room listening to you to speak. I was, just to give you a little insight, I was relieved when you got to that portion of your story as, you know, I know your father and yourself went through very, very tough times

after you lost everything, but I was relieved to hear that you at least did get to speak with him one more time before he passed away. And I'm happy that you were able to get together with Dr. Greer because, you know, now here we are. And you've been able to get this story out there. And I think it gives people hope that shows, you know, you can be at your lowest lows and get back to a point where you feel like, yeah, you know what, I got a reason to keep going.

Man, I was never conditioned for any of this, you know. And I loved it, the disclosure event in D.C. I think what they were doing was absolutely amazing. And but unfortunately, we were on a very tight time crunch. And so it was difficult to get those details and, you know, not even to make it personal, but just to paint a broader picture to let people know that, you know, this isn't just an isolated incident with, oh, God, what's that weird, huh? Okay, let's go.

And we made nothing. I can't stress that enough. I've read a few comments, people saying, oh, well, these guys are this or that. They're Illuminati or whatever. These guys are paid active. trust me. I am not that smart. Yeah.

You know, and I get it. I get that, look, there's always going to be skeptics, right? And that's why I think it's important. It's more than important. It's vital that you and Mike and Eric Hecker and everybody have come out to speak about what has happened to them, what they've seen, the experiences that they've gone through, the intimidation factors that you've gone through and are still going. through. I mean, to have, like we said, everything gone overnight and have to essentially start over again. And now even, you know, these days, we, you and I spoke about, and if you don't mind me bringing up, some of the intimidation that you're going through now. I mean, as, as, as we speak,

this isn't something that happened back in 2010. This is stuff that's happening in 2023. Yeah, and some of those things are ongoing. And I'd love to go into more detail about it. But, I can't because in a sense, I don't want it to stop. I want them to carry on thinking that they're going to do something that's going to shake my feet or move me from the position that I put myself in. And that is absolutely not going to happen. I'm going to catch them. And if I want, somebody will.

Because the fact of the matter is, I don't give a damn how much money they've got. You know, I can't stress this enough. we make nothing from this. We have nothing to gain from this other than knowing that the information is out there that people are going to benefit from it. But they fail to realize just how outnumbered they are. And I can't sit there and say who they are. We know they're there. We see their work.

We see the scars that they leave behind. And there's very few people that do know who they are. And unfortunately, our puppet government at this point, And it's just doing everything that they're told. And it is sad. But in a sense, I don't want it to stop because then that means that what we're doing here is a threat to them. Whatever livelihood they consider or whatever agenda that they're putting on the table, we're interfering with that.

And that makes me so happy to know that we'll keeping them awake at night. And you are. And I didn't tell you this yesterday. But, you know, I really appreciate you've taken the time for this. but I completely turned down the daily mail to do an interview today to do an interview with you. Because the people that I talked to in the circles I ride in, and it wasn't a long conversation. They're like, hey, man, Steve is a good guy. You need to go over there.

That's the way to go. It didn't bother me at all. Not to say the fact that I was happy that I didn't have to fly to Los Angeles. But, you know, I would much rather do it right here than over there. I appreciate that so much, D.C. I'm sorry that I couldn't fly you down to South Florida to do it in person. You can keep that heat, man. You're not kidding about that.

The heat and humidity of South Florida in the summer is something else. No, but I really do appreciate that. That means a lot, you know, for you guys to be willing to come on here and talk to me. about these things and to have these conversations because it's not easy. This is serious stuff. And some people would even say that, you know, I'm putting myself out there too much. But and I don't. Well, that thought crossed my mind.

You know, and. You're talking on your back too. It's crossed my mind. You've got troops on your side now. So, you know, and I don't give a damn about the heat. I don't care what time of day it is. If somebody threatens you because of this, you just call me and tell me how fast you want me to get down there. I appreciate that.

Thank you. I'm not just saying that because we're recording, man. As far as I'm concerned, your family at this point. We've got your six. We're not going to let nothing happen to you guys. Thank you. No, that's, it means a lot because it's something that I think about here and there,

and I try not to because this is, it's very important. It's just something that's, you know, it's burning with inside of me that these conversations need to continue to happen. They need to be elevated. And that's why I think it's so vital. to continue to talk to you to Mike and I know you know eventually and um plan on speaking to Eric Hecker and and Colonel Hecker and more people in the future

as we go on so it's um you know it's it's it means a lot that that we can have these conversations so I'm just going to keep going as long as you guys keep going I'll keep going as well hey man that that's all we ask let me ask you because I'm sure there's people wondering DC, have you? Because I know Mike did and I assume you did, but I want to ask to make sure, did you testify under oath with any type of in a, any type of Senate intelligence setting? Yes. You did. Okay. Yeah, we went through multiple iterations. And even now, I'm glad you brought that up. We talked about it earlier with the aerial photographs that the geospatial engineer volunteered. Dr. Greer and his wife sent me those details and they told me that Herrera's story, as well as mine, have been corroborated by multiple sources.

And they're trying to work on getting a few to come forward, but some of those guys are still active duty. They can't, they can't budge. They're definitely putting their lives in danger in a line unit by releasing that kind of information. and we both know if they were called they would never make it out of living worth or guantanamo how many people would you say active and of course without giving any names or rank or anything like that of course but how many people would you say in your estimation have come across these things or have seen you know unexplainable phenomenon in the air that would resemble a you know a uap that's in the up restaurant laws of service yeah and just you know and

just, you know, the ones that are willing to talk, the ones that are kind of itching to say, okay, you know what, maybe I will come out under this whistleblower protection act, but, you know, I'm worried about my safety and the safety of my family. Do you, is that a high number, do you think? Absolutely. Yeah. If I had to take a swag out, I'd say it was at least 85 to 90 percent. Because, you know, just like any line unit or any other unit in service, doesn't matter the branch.

You know, we all talk to each other. and whenever you get to a certain level, the BS doesn't stop, but you can tell a lot about someone's eyes. And when you're working with people 24 hours a day, you know, eight months out of the year, I mean, that's your surrogate family. You spend more time with these guys than you do with your own family. So you know whenever they're pulling your leg. But these teams are so small and organized as individuals, especially with STB, you know, it's going to be witnessed by every single one of them. But it's a rock and a hard place because you come back and you know the first thing that you're going to face is a debrief.

And you know exactly what they're going to tell you. You didn't see anything. And it's absolutely redundant because that's like going through a murder trial and then telling a jury to disregard. You can disregard all you want on paper, but it's still in here. You still witnessed it. You still saw it. There's still a few things that I can't discuss. and I wish that I could.

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some stuff that was on the ground, stuff that resembled otherworldly technology, like the vibrations that were being used to essentially float these giant stones and monolithic stone that you saw. What was it that, I guess, without giving specifics if you can, other things that kind of caught your eye that said, wow, like this stuff is either not human

or it was taken from something that, that we don't even know about. Absolutely. There had been aerial phenomenon, and there was one instance that took place interact during my first deployment. And, you know, I didn't know if it was combat stress. Honestly, at the end of the day, that's what I attributed it to, was combat stress. We were in the city of Tews, north of Baghdad. and it was right in between

Kirkuk and Toree and it was a mountain range just to the north of us and one day we were on a guard point called Red 5 and there was a slight that came over the mountain which at the time

didn't really seem significant it could have been one of ours because we were knocked up so I was using the PBS 14s and I see this coming over and I thought that it was to C-130 side by side. which again wasn't anything that really set any alarms off but this thing came to over the

mountain and then went right below the city and then just took off and in an instant it was right with us and then it was up and gone again and I was like yep that's enough for me I need to request days off he'd go to sick all or something but it was so strange and me and the guy they were with he's dead now his name was Matt Callahan wonderful guy saved my life but we didn't we made a point to make sure that we did not discuss that with anybody else because nobody else saw it and i was like well nobody else is going to believe it absolutely not but god there's so much i would love to be able to say that there was another instance that took place in candorahar that i would really love to get into but i just can't yeah but i have full

faith and confidence that soon very soon we'll be able to because i know that one of the the other operators that was there has an ETS coming up in August, I believe. Okay. I'll call you back. That's right. I really wish we could, man, because it was next level. You know, it was even, oh, God, I can't tell that one either. That it sucks.

I'll tell you what, though. I'll call you on the phone or later after you get done. I really want to talk to you about that one. I know you're absolutely going to, it blew my mind completely. It was something that happened overseas in Afghanistan. And then whenever I was in the Warrior Transition Battalion after my accident, we encountered each other again. But you'll understand later why that should not have happened physically.

Okay. We'll get into that in another discussion. And when the time is right, I guess we'll be able to rebuild what that was. but you have me intrigued. Some of those things, and I know we've been talking for a while, D.C., so I'll get you out of here soon, you know, get you on with your day.

But some of the things, you know, these things that we're talking about, whether it was these unexplained craft that you saw while you were deployed in Iraq or whether it was the technology being used to float these giant stones at Range 19 at Fort Bragg, your best guess,

your best estimation. Are those things that we're seeing man-made technology, just human advancement, or is this stuff that's being reverse engineered that has come from, you know, somewhere else? I believe personally that it was reverse engineered because we have some brilliant people on this earth. But nobody's come close, not even close on the civilian side of the house, R&D for any other company. doesn't matter how big or small that company is, no one has come close that they can match that level. I mean, maybe they can do it with something small,

that you would have on your desk, but at that scale, it's absolutely, well, obviously not impossible, but for us as a race, at the level of civilization that we are, it's improbable.

Can you say, and if you can't, that's totally fine, can you say what companies you think are, doing these things or entities, whatever. Is it, and I put myself at risk here mentioning some of these names, but is it a Raytheon? Is it Lockheed? Skunk Works, of course, Division of Lockheed.

Is it Northrop Grumman? I mean, what type of contractors, what type of, all of them who, you think they're involved in this type of reverse engineering stuff? Yeah. You know, I was, how long ago it was been now? 2018, 2019. I was in Los Angeles for about two and a half, three years. And I did some work for Triple Canopy, Gavin DeBacker.

And none of those were eventful in the sense that nothing spectacular happened. However, whenever I took a weekend shift for one of my guys from Covered Six and Moore Park, California with SpaceX, there's next level stuff going on there. and it wasn't anything that, you know, I didn't see any aerial phenomena. I didn't see, you know, things that would leave me in that sense to believe that some next level stuff is going on. It's just some of the conversations for the people. And I should back that up and say that what I was doing there, I was an executive protection specialist while I was there and a personal protection specialist. So we were around some of the people who would just ignore us in the sense that we were just personal security.

So some of the conversations that they were having about what they were doing, you know, what their agenda was going into space. And it was some of it was a little terrifying. I got to be honest with you. Because, you know, first and foremost, I'm, you know, redneck from the South. So that prohibits me from having, you know, the ability to be is maybe as loquacious as you are. I just don't have that elocution about me. So you could explain these things better than I could. But some of the things that they were talking about just, you know, within the distance of us.

And I did sign an NDA, so I couldn't go in detail with it. But it really scared me. I'm not going to lie to you. It scared me. You know, and like I said before, I've never been the type to be a conspiracy theorist. So it's easy for me to filter a lot of these things that are going on from the things that I've been exposed to and aware of. What was it that that scared you when you said you were at SpaceX if you can talk about it? I know you said you signed the NDA.

What was it that kind of was like when you had the discussions that you had when you thought, whoa, this was a little wild? Let me see how I can say this. There's a reason that there's so many satellites being sent up at once. there was one I think it was one of the Falcon Heavy's took up no it was an Ares rocket from Wallops that took up 14 satellites

and at the same time China sent up the same and these satellites and you can look it up they were shooting green lasers down at Hawaii and they claimed that it was just to detect the carbon in the atmosphere to see if the ionosphere was breaking up but there were basically

target map in U.S. military installations. And one of these satellites may or may not have had a payload that was not designed to look out into the expansive space. It's looking straight down at us. But, you know, I heard a story one time that there was this, it was a great story. It had this aircraft that was floating about 300,000 feet above the earth. and it had a weapon on it that could generate so much force that whenever it hit the ground

at such a speed, it could impact an area about 100 miles. And on the way down, it would segment and it would generate a nuclear electromagnetic pulse that could paralyze any grid, any cell phone communication, any GPS. It was a great story. I got to tell you. But I couldn't really say, you know, what else SpaceX had up their hand. But, you know, those are DOD contracts that they have with them, that the Department of Defense will take payload, put it on the set on the,

the rockets that they should fire off. And it doesn't matter if it's from Wallops, from Kennedy, from Papua New Guinea, from Bocah, the same things are going up there. these, you know, communication satellites. They have a direct relationship with the ground, if you will. Okay. I'm just, I'm trying to be very particular. No, I get it.

I get it. And I don't want to put you in any. It was a great story. I don't believe that it's true. But it was a great story. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to put you in any, you know, compromising positions. Oh, hell, man. The worst they could do is sue me and what the hell are they going to take from me?

I have nothing. all good oh you mentioned the uh the accident and that's it's something that i meant to ask you about earlier and i apologize for asking so late in the interview now it's important to what we spoke about with what you guys saw at range 19 because this happened what like a couple of days after yeah it was within it was within two weeks it was a jfax combat jump and um really long story short I was the first in the stick, one of 12 guys. We were getting ready to jump. And one story short, this guy comes out of nowhere,

hooks up right to my right shoulder. And it's the guy who slid the NDAs across the table. Same person. Wow. Okay. Exactly. Same person. And, you know, it's not just, hey, this guy looks similar.

I know this guy. I've known this guy. Since I was 12, 13 years. old and we call it cut me out of the door he threw his static line which snapped my neck whenever his line went tall after he exited the aircraft and i went out of the aircraft like said it was a combat jump so i had you know full tactical i had my 1950s weapons case my pack my combat pack right between my legs and if you ask any peritruper you can't stand up straight whenever you're you're rigged up and you've already been JMPI'd.

You know, you're hunched over almost. And you have to waddle out of the airplane with this, you know, one pound pack between your legs and a weapon right in your armpit. But he cut me out of the door, snapped my neck. I flipped out of the aircraft, which deployed my lowering line in my combat pack and my weapon. So I'm falling through the air thinking that I've got a canopy malfunction and it was just an isolation, but the problem was, is I couldn't reach up to fix the malfunction because my arms wouldn't work.

They were completely numb. And I remember looking down and I saw the sky, so I knew I was in trouble at that point. But my canopy's up here. I'm down here. The lower end line is, I think there were 25 meters below us, 25 feet. And it was just swinging back and forth. And before I hit the ground, my canopy went, I went inverted. my canopy hit the ground and I fell into it and then I was out.

The only thing that I remember in that moment was the noise. It sounded like a damn tree falling in the woods, how it snaps and breaks. But my body made that sound 40 times over. So many injuries from it and it ruined my career. I mean, my career was over and I woke up in the hospital sometime later. I think it was about two weeks. And I had an MEP, you know, they sent me to the Warrior Transition Battalion to reasonably ill so I could transition to civilian life. And it was, it was downhill, man.

Man, and so this was somebody that you knew for a long time. This was the same person who slid the NDA to when you were coming out of Range 19. And this person, I guess. Well, at 18 airborne headquarters. Right. and this person tried to kill you. Yes. Did you ever get to talk to them again after that?

To get any type of explanation to see maybe in the back of your head you talk to yourself, there's no way that this guy had known for this long actually tried to kill me. It had to have been an accident. Were you ever able to speak to him again? No. I'm just trying to be carefully. Yeah. There's many things that I wanted.

to do. Many things that I was capable of doing. But I had much more to lose. And that's the hardest point in a man's life when you have to show genuine restraint to a traumatic event that you know

was done intentionally. I can handle things that happen in combat as traumatic as they are. My heart breaks for it. But I can understand that we volunteered to be there. That happens. But this you know, that was, it just, it opened my eyes to a lot of things, but it also closed it to more because after that, I lost everything.

You know, I ended up homeless. And fast forward to whenever, you know, we found out that my dad was dying. Exactly one week after my father was buried, I get a knock at my door. I opened the door. and I won't say which one, but it was one of those guys. And they handed me a note that said, thinking of you. And the guy looked up, he's like, hey, buddy, sorry for he lost.

And he gets in his truck and drives away. Gave you a wink like everything was all right. And Dr. Greer and I were talking about this. He was like, well, did you feel like that was intimidation or did they were trying to hurt you? I was like, no, because if they wanted to do that, I would have never seen it coming. They had plenty of opportunities. I think it was just a way of saying, I can touch you at any time. I can reach out and grab you. And my kids were right behind me, man. So there were many things in that moment. There was many things I could have done,

but that would have led to me losing everything. And I was just so traumatized, you know, not just by my accident, but just losing my father. And it, uh, That was a true test of my character. Because, like I said, I wanted to put an ass whipping on him that Jesus Christ couldn't pray off. But I could not reach out and touch him. I'm not going to do that in front of my children. You know, if I do that, then everything that I stood for and teach them is a lie. And, you know, I can't do it.

But it was very sobering, very sobering experience. It's the last question I'll ask on this. And then we'll wrap up these feet. And thank you so much for taking so much time. Because I think some people will wonder in their own heads when they listen to you, tell the story about the accident, quote unquote. They'll wonder to themselves, well, how did he know was an accident? Or how did he know was on purpose? Couldn't have been an accident.

So what led you to know yourself just in the procedures that go on in that aircraft before you guys jump? What led you to know there's no way like that was done on purpose. That was intentional. They tried to kill me. Well, first, not just to shout out the rigors and the amazing job that they do, but your life is literally in their hands. These guys don't make a mistake. And you can't prevent a mistake from happening with the equipment.

But I do know that every paratrooper watching will tell you the same thing. Yeah, it happens. but a lot of times that's operator error. You know, but whenever you get to that point, whenever you reach a certain echelon of military service, you don't make mistakes like that. It's inconceivable. Now, if somebody were willing to make a mistake in that sense,

it would just be suicidal and they do it to themselves. There is nothing that is going to shake a paratroopers focus whenever you're taking commands from the jump master and you know what it is that you're getting ready to do. Even if you're jumping out of this aircraft to assault an objective, while you're in that aircraft, that objective doesn't matter. You're not thinking about that. We are not trained exhaustively to do that.

You know, paratrovers just don't make that kind of mistake. And it doesn't matter if you're a cherry jumper. You know, at the five of first, it doesn't matter if you just made your first, you know, pie jump in the, you know, infantry line units. I don't care if you're 80 seconds, 1001st. You don't make mistakes like that. We're not trained to make mistakes like that. You know, I've seen, you know, many accidents that have happened similar to mine, but it was on the line units. It was on the guys. But whenever you get, you know, to Ranger Regiment, whenever you get to Delta,

special forces, seals, any of these guys, those mistakes are not made. The most you would have is to deal with a canopy malpunction. side of the aircraft. It's just, it's inconceivable. Well, all, you know, that's the same way is saying, all right, Stephen, you know, go pick your kid up and you just drop them. Yeah. You're not going to do that.

Right. It's something basic. Something simple. Yeah, well, to us, that was the same. But, you know, there's life and death consequences and we realize that. Before you exit that aircraft, there's a very particular sequence of events. and it's constant communication from them telling you, you know, to sound off for your equipment check, 30 seconds hook up, you know, to go. You're basically told everything that you need to do.

You don't have to think for yourself. You're just sitting there holding your static line. At my case, I'd already handed my static line off, and I'm just sitting there holding my reserve, ready to go out looking at the horizon. And the next thing I know, a standing line slaps me in the face from somebody that is beyond special forces. If you catch what I'm telling you, you know, those kind of mistakes aren't made. He could be blistered three sheets to the wind with the devil's lettuce in his lungs. He's still not going to make a mistake like that because at that point, it's automatic. It's beyond muscle memory.

It's sole recognition. It just, you know. It's like loving your kids. You just do. Yeah. And nobody will be tell you to love them and protect. But that was the way we looked at it. And I've been asked that question many times, but it's funny, I've never been asked that question from a paratrooper because they know.

Right. And that's probably the best way to put it. So I'll get you out here on this, D.C. What's the end game for you? What is something that you say to yourself, okay, if we reach this point, I'm going to feel good about what I'm trying to do here and getting the word out and trying to talk about what's happening behind the scenes and the nefarious acts, the secret, you know, government, so to speak, of people who are acting behind even, you know, congressional oversight. What is it that's going to make you feel like, okay, I've done good here because this happened? Personally, I know that I'm never going to be satisfied because there's always going to be.

be people unless people like us do something about it, there's always going to be people that consider themselves over us because they have more money than us. And for those of us that, you know, we just want to get by. We just want to be happy and we want to see others around us happy. To me, it's just that simple. I want to get to a point that where everything is just a free flow of honest information, not to cover your sick so you can make some shady deal with somebody so you can get rich for what man I mean I'm 43 years old if I live to be a you know 80 my life has had more than halfway over why would I need all that crap to make me happy what wouldn't make me happy is to make sure that we get the disabled veterans off the streets the homeless veterans off

the streets in this BS shadow culture that we have in the government that does everything in their power to hold people like us down you know they could have just politely said hey don't say nothing they didn't have to take our entire livelihood they didn't have to take my health you know and those are things that every moment of every day I'm constantly reminded of my shortcomings and deficiencies and my illness and you know I can't do anything about that but what I can do is rally the people who need to be there if they need to help in hand I'll pick them up like I told you somebody messes with you you tell me

how fast you want me to get there and that ain't just me talking God help the person that makes that mistake. I'll stomp a mud hole in their ass and walk it dry. But it doesn't just have to be somebody in that sense. It's somebody who wants to infringe upon the freedoms of the people of this world, not just America. Nobody should ever have to look over their shoulder and think that, you know, you have to be told everything to do that at any moment your entire livelihood can be taken

by changing a one to a zero, which is essentially what they did to us. you know they didn't ruin my life and my dad's life all the employees that we had they lost jobs a lot of them lost their house because that's the only thing that they've ever known you know i just that's such a multifaceted question it's difficult to answer i just want people to feel the kind of peace in their heart that i do believe it or not you know i don't care what god they pray to how damn hard is it just to care about the person to your left and right yeah you know and that's why i chose to do this here with you then you know other outlets that were dangling cheese in front of my face saying look this look what we can give you to do this i'm like man i'm not out for that i don't

want to make a living doing this you know if it ends up that way then that's well and good but i damn sure i'm not going to start out that way right you know that's i'm a praying man. I thank God for every opportunity that I have to still breathe. So honestly, hell man, I don't know, Stephen. I really don't know what I want in this world. I just know that I don't want to stop. I want. I still have that insane need to protect. And it's not just, you know, the people here in my house, the people that I love, the people I know personally, you know, it's everybody. It's all of us. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

I think that's a good enough answer, D.C. I think you answered that really well. No, that's really well said. And I really appreciate you coming on here, UAP Weekly. I guess what turned into an extended edition, but honestly, I can talk to you. I apologize for that, man. No, no, no, no, no.

I mean, you know, there was a lot that we wanted to cover, a lot of ground we wanted to cover, and I think it was worth going a little long here today. I could probably talk to you for another two or three hours, but amazing. Thank you for joining UAP Weekly here today. Thank you for having me, man. It really means a lot.

Yes, we'll talk soon. Godspeed, brother. Yep. What a great guy and great job, IDC. Thanks again for his time today to join me on UAP weekly. That really meant a lot. And all those kind words that he threw out there as well. I swear to you, I didn't ask him to say that or anything.

That was on his, out of his own, volition of the kindness of his heart. So thank you again for all that time. And thank you for listening today. I know this is, I think this is the longest. I've set a new record now. We beat the record that I set with the Michael Herrera interview. So congratulations, D.C. Long.

You beat Mike here on the longest episode in UAP history. So we'll get out of here on that. Not much more to say. A lot has been said today. That's going to do it for me. Thank you again so much for everything. Really appreciate all of the love you guys are showing me and the show. next time there's going to be much, much more, I'm sure.

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